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Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2241
Amazing Cards for Shit Archetypes Edition
Last thread: >>148580438
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First for cardfus
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>>148642603
This looks so bad. It's like we went back to DM artworks but with background.
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>>148642601
Ace Ventura?
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So we /meninblack/ now?
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Normal Spell Card
“Casting out the Darklords” can only be activated once per turn.
(1) Add 1 “Darklord” or “Fallen One” card from your Deck to your hand, except “Casting out the Darklords”


so nurse burn is meta now?
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Hints on SPYRAL effects

Main agent-ish guy: "he'd beat stratos up in a bar fight", "he rewards you for using information correctly", "some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card", "main card of the deck"

Scientist guy: "machine dupe is bananas with this", "you gonna want multiples of this"

Drone thingy: "works very well with the agent guy", "gives you information and surprise bonuses", "you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better"

Car: "I think this is a very powerful card", "It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals", "there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect"
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>>148642691
Is this the new Baccano! TCG?
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So hand-peeking/ set card-peeking archetype?
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>>148642942
So SPYRAL is meta while Subterror is the petdeck.
Makes sense since these hints are basically Tewart copying banned cards for effects
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>>148642942
Add any card with SPYRAL in its name or text from your deck to your hand?

The Car might be something to do with Delinquent Duo.
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Just like one of my japanese card games.
>>>148642942
>"he'd beat stratos up in a bar fight", "he rewards you for using information correctly", "some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card", "main card of the deck"
Shitty hard OPT search, something to do with the opponent's hand/extra deck or graveyard, DRAW IT OR DIE.dek
>Scientist guy: "machine dupe is bananas with this", "you gonna want multiples of this"
Can change the type of one monster on the field to machine, probably
>Drone thingy: "works very well with the agent guy", "gives you information and surprise bonuses", "you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better"
Lets you check the opponent's hand/ED, probably a continuous or field spell
>Car: "I think this is a very powerful card", "It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals", "there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect"
>it doesn't work well with the main piece of the deck
It's shit with a situational draw 2 effect like capture mission
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>>148642920
That seems scary, and fun at the same time. Dies to D'Arc though.

>>148642942
>he rewards you for using information correctly
Bait Doll tier

>some of the other cards will revolve round this particular card
Flag for shit tier archetype

>machine dupe is bananas with this
Why the hell is fuccboi a fucking machine

>works very well with the agent guy
AKA can't work w/o agent

>you wanna play this before our agents because it will make your agents better
AKA agents is shit w/o this

>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
... Construct? Since it's a car and all.
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>>148643264
>Can change the type of one monster on the field to machine, probably
I'm betting that he's a machine and works like Kozmo Tincan does for Kozmos.
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>>148643264
>"It doesnt just work with the agent
Shit, misread it as "just doesn't work".
Change my guess to it being a monster that can equip itself and doubles as a butterfly dagger, but balanced since you gotta summon it and all
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I hope SPYRALS are going to be primarily a rank 4 deck.
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>>148642942
>It doesnt just work with the agent, but also with the other spyrals
Yet it has Agent in the cardwork.
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>>148643556
I hope SPYRALS are going to be primarily a rank 5 deck.
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>>148642942
>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
What I want: Brio effect
What I realistically want: Heavily restricted Mind master
What It will be: Tribe infecting virus.
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We know TDIL has 3 SPYRAL monsters and 1 spell
Which one is the spell, the car or the drone?
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>>148643768
Drone for sure.
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>>148643556
No, fuck this, I want every generic rank 4 to be banned until rank 4 stops being playable.
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FREE BRONAC
GIVE US ANOTHER GOOD LV 6 SYNCHRO BESIDES GOYO
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Spy dude looks like a LV3 if I ever saw one
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>>148642942
>there is a forbidden card with a similiar effect
It can't be Confiscation, right? Even though it fits the information thingy.
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>>148643768
The spell is probably the car; actually, considering that you want Machine Dupe with the scientist, maybe the Scientist lets you change its name to another SPYRAL monster's name and type by sending it from the deck to the graveyard, and the effect of the Drone is something good.
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>>148643885
>what is coral dragon
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>>148643885
Coral Dragon
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What if Spyral is a shit archetype?
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>expecting SPYRAL to be anything but gimmicky shit after the disappointment of Subterrors
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>>148643885
Stardust Charge Warrior and Coral Dragon isn't enough?
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>>148643264
How cute!
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>>148644004
Subterrors will probably be the meta TCG archetype while SPYRAL(still lmaoing at that one autist who thought the had any relation because HURR HIDDEN CITY HAS A SPIRAL ON IT) is the UA/Kaiju archetype that is mainly for fun
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>>148643951
>>148643968
It's Brionac-lite, like Gungnir.
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>>148644124
>high level flip monsters
>meta
el
oh
el
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>>148644045
I expect them to float, because you know, all the good TCG stuff floats.
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>>148644236
Screencap this.
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>>148644124
Kaijus are actually used in meta decks though.
Also
>high level flip monsters
>ever meta
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>>148644236
>>148644352
Just like Shaddolls were shit too right ;^)
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>>148644442
Shaddolls float. Subterrors don't.
Shaddolls primarily rely on their extra deck monsters. Subterrors don't.
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>>148644442
>level 5 is high level
Lol
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>>148644442
Beast is the only high level flip Shaddoll monster. Also, Shaddolls float when sent to the graveyard. Do Subterrors float?
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>>148644280
hopefully it will be relevant to post this in a few months.
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>>148644534
Not that I think Subterrors will be meta, but
>subterrors don't float
You've seen one monster. How do you know others might not float?
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>>148644568
>>148644534
Do Subterror has other cards? No?
If the only shaddoll revealed is Shaddoll Core and Shaddoll Hound, will you also say this?
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is it just me or that chest part look similar to odd-eyes chest ?
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>>148644454
A week from now you'll be able to channel your inner Kaiba and win worlds next month.
Assuming Metalphosis jank doesn't sack you.
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>>148644786
>finally giving a high ATK gear engineer's effect
Fucking finally
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>>148644786
It's the reactor's core.
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>>148644786
Not just the chest. The face, too.
Holy shit.
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>tfw you realise you're dueling a DN migrant
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>>148644786
>>148645029
Is Yuya going to turn evil?
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>>148645162
>Being proud of a top 4.
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>>148645281
If that guy is telling the truth top 4 at a ycs is a big accomplishment.
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>>148645215
>gear engineer
Was HITOTSU NI not enough enough of an indicator
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>>148645215
>yfw ancient-eyes gear fusion dragon
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>>148645359
anon, call me a skeptic, but I do not think he's telling the truth.
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>>148645359
>using qli's
>with no extra
I doubt he got past the first rounds
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>>148644786
>>148645029
>>148645215
>>148645417
>>148645396
Pls save this shit series
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>>148645657
It was fine about 50 episodes in and then we DRAGGED ASS in the Synchro arc and then it started getting good again once we went to Xyz and Fusion and started getting some actual plot advancement and now its shit again and I dunno why
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>>148645828
>now its shit again
I blame Kaito.
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>>148645828
Because of EGAO and how everyone just suddenly realises it's greatness
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>>148644786
So I guess if you pop geartown with that new spell you can get a Enterblathnir?
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>>148645657
Well, every protag has been evil at some point.
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>>148645987
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>>148645987
Except Yusei who was only evil for 5 seconds in the manga and didn't even try a heel turn in the anime
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>>148645657
>evil Yuya
IT'S
HAPPENING
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So SPYRALs are full fujo pandering. Figures.
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>>148646086
>>148646098
>great archetype
>never evil
>best series
Why is Yusei so based?
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>>148646193
>junk
>stardust
>"great archetype"
yeah yusei was totally great, I mean he didn't even need team 5d's help to win!! :^) what a perfect protagonist
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>>148646129
You know it could also be a neat little clue for the anime showing that Academia will eventually steal the design for Odd-Eyes for their own gain. Reactor is probably a prototype
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>>148645987
>tfw haven't watched GX since it was dubbed and I was a kid
>tfw only got to supreme king arc and fucking loved it
>tfw don't think I could handle sitting throught the sub

I don't know if Arc-V has killed me, but I just can't bring myself to watch GX. I literally couldn't get past the OP. Supreme King was the best evil protag ever.

What the fuck do i do
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>>148646129
Have any other whatever-eyes name of summon dragons been spoiled before they appeared in the show?
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>>148645987
Yugi was never evil. Atem was just crazy after being locked in an evil Puzzle for 1,000 years but he slowly came to his senses.
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>>148646351
Nope.
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>>148646287
I was referring to Synchrons.
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>>148646193
Fucking this. Arc-V got close, but now it's horse shit compared to 5Ds.

The music, story and overall feels were fucking A+. Plus, it had KINGU
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>>148646350
Don't watch GX. You'll realize that the show isn't as good as in your memories.
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>>148646086
He would have been had they not chickened out with Z-ONE.
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>>148646579
You're wrong.
ARC-V and 5D's suffered the same fate. Both became shit after ~70 episodes.
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>>148646351
Crystal Wang was revealed like a week before it was shown in an episode.

But we knew it was coming ever since the next episode PV a week before that even.
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>>148646579
>implying ever other series except DM is horseshit compared to 5Ds.
5Ds was the only series worthy to match DM and it helps that both had Kaz involved with the designs and the story.
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>>148646193
>5Ds
>best series

Sure I guess. All of the YGO anime are pretty inconsistent and bad so being the best doesn't mean much. I will say the Fortune Cup was genuinely good. But 26 good episodes doesn't excuse the other 128 episodes and yes Dark Signers is overrated.
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>>148645828
2 reasons.
A) this >>148645925
B) We've now run out of time so we need to rush the plot just to give HITOTSU NI maybe 2 episodes to explain/resolve.
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>>148646708
the thing is though 5ds had a plot resolution at 64. Arc-V hasn't
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>>148646593
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't feeling it, but now I'll probs stay away.

>>148646708
5Ds went down after Signers, but it did NOT go to shit, like Arc-V. Sure the Z-ONE arc fucked a lot of things and I was really let down by not letting Z-ONE be future Yusei/Aki not dueling, but it still had good duels, music and resolution.

It's the least shit out of the shittest part of each series.
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>>148646769
>this is what 5D's lovers actually believe
If anything, Zexal was the only series worth watching.
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Last Train is GOAT.
And so is Believe in Nexus.
And Road to Tomorrow.
And Kizuna.

But Freedom is just "okay"
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>>148647009
>Zexal
>worth watching
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>>148647009
you've got to put a little more effort in bait man
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>>148646845
What are the Abyss Actor sekrit teks?
At the moment, Stygian Security is testing well but I want to know if there is some obscure interaction with a card I might have missed.
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>>148647009
>Zexal

I'll admit Zexal II made up for some of it, but not most of it. Plus the ending was dogshit.
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>>148646845
ARC-V still has 30/40 episodes left. It still has the chance to offer its followers a more satisfying ending than 5D's did.
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IIIIIII CAN SEE YOU CUMMING
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>>148647180
>the ending was dogshit
What, do you think the ending of 5D's was any better?
Production values, story consistency, character development - Zexal was above every series in every domain, except DM. Only retarded nostalgiafags refuse to accept that fact.
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So, at what moment Wil Yuya become evil and start using Ancient Gears?
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>>148647193
5ds' ending was fine.
Yusei's a giant Mary Sue but so was every other protagonist so he can be forgiven.
It ended the same way DSoD did, everybody moving on with their futures.
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>>148646845
>2 episodes
He deserves more time than that after all of the teasing the writers have done.
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>>148647301
>do you think the ending of 5D's was any better?
It was GX's ending again but more fleshed out.
And GX had a good ending.
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>>148647317
When he hits the heroic BSOD. A heroic BSOD can be caused by many things:
- Complete and utter defeat
- The death of a close one
- The sight of your ideals being cruelly trampled on
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>>148646845
Is there any reason none of the protags from the other shows have shown up in Arc-V?
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>>148647362
They never even showed Yusei's future though.
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>>148647363
he deserves it but we're getting to a point where unless the next series is Arc-V II, we'll get the reveal at max 5 episodes left and resolve it with 1-2 left.
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>>148647362
None of the protagonists are as bad as Yusei. Stop trying to defend him.
God itself helped him win his duels.
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>>148647362
And Yusei moving on inside of Aki. That was a definite plus.
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>>148647554
My bet is they're all carded and Reiji has them.
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>>148646579
>Spoiler
But Arc-V's Kingu is actually a Kingu unlike the jobber with staged matches that he was in 5Ds.
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>>148647193
That was probably the shittiest thing they did with the ending, but its YGO, what did you expect? Everything else ended perfectly, with maybe the exception Jack vs Yusei, which should have been a tie.

If you think Arc-V will end better than 5Ds, you're mistaken. The Yuzu! Yuya! thing will end in a hug, if that, and maybe his family will all become entertainers. Also, I guarantee that he'll somehow merge the dimensions so that everyone lives in one dimension in harmony. That's literally it.

EGAO FOR THE WIN

>>148647301
Zexal's ending was shit, don't start this. I sat throught the whole 2 seasons/arcs and when they brought everyone back just to fly off into the sunset, I lost all respect for it.

5Ds had a good ending. Besides, how was I nostalgia fagging? I watched up until the Signers arc dubbed when I was a kid, and only rewatched the whole thing subbed 2 yrs ago.
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>>148647604
>5 tuners with Shooting Star
>Everytime
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>DM's ending
Atem moved on and Kaiba killed himself to follow him.
Everybody graduated and is moving on with their futures
>GX 's ending
Judai graduated and went to travel the world after learning how to enjoy duels again
>5ds's ending
Everybody moves on with their various futures free of the Signer responsibilities
>Zexal's ending
They all fly to help Astral.
Which ending was the best?
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>>148647554
Because it's distasteful.
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>>148647604
I still don't know how his team got past the Aesir God Cards. That was absolute horse shit.
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>>148647591
Everyone's already on their way to Academia so as long as the writers avoid as much bullshit filler as they can, a decent resolution can be done.
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>>148647604
>Not liking an uncorruptably guy who can duel for 5 seconds without screaming EGAO
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>>148647674
>The Yuzu! Yuya! thing will end in a hug, if that, and maybe his family will all become entertainers. Also, I guarantee that he'll somehow merge the dimensions so that everyone lives in one dimension in harmony. That's literally it.
Wow. You clearly know what you're talking about.
Are you part of ARC-V's writing team?
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>>148647604
>Atem can draw anything he wants
>Judai has bullshit luck and can talk to Spirits
>Yuma can make any card he wants and controls Chaos
>Yuya is the vessel of Darkness and his Pendulum creates cards for him.
How is Yusei worse than this?
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>>148647702
Definitely not Zexal. Everything else is more or less the same. It just depends on which series you like more. Although Kaiba killing himself is something no one expected so extra points to Kaz.
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>>148647554
some people thought up the theory that Arc-V takes place because through magic bullshit the main characters have been erased from existence which leads to the differences the worlds have from each other If you want to go full meme, some people were thinking it might be because of the numeron code,
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>>148647828
Yes

>>148647657
Yeah, the only reason I can't get behind Arc-V's Kingu is because this.

NOW HEAR IN THE KINGU'S HEART BEAT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg
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>>148647835
Do you want me to find that screencap with Aki saying that Yusei literally doesn't need team 5D's and can win by himself, or are you okay?
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>>148648019
So?
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>>148647702
DM's sucks post DSoD, which I haven't seen yet so I can't judge it. GX has a pretty good ending, with that final duel between Judai and Yugi. 5D's feels the most 'final', though. Wraps everything up in a lovely package, which would've been a lot more satisfying if it was more of an ensemble piece instead of Yusei having 80% of the duels to himself.

I never saw Zexal.
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>>148648019
>implying any protag needed friends

Each of them are OP fucks, stop doing this.
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>>148647835
All those other characters have special powers that give them the ability to influence their duels. Yusei is just a normal guy with no special power so his asspull in duels look even worse.
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>>148648019
Teams 5ds was garbage though.
Jack and Aki were massive jobbers and only Crow had a decent deck out them all.
Every protagonist but Yuma and Yuya are basically one man armies.
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>>148648019
Yugi, Judai, Yuma and Yuya's friends also job like hell, so how is Yusei worse again?

At least Jack and Crow don't get excused for all of their loses (fuck Gongenzaka)
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>>148648096
>post DSoD

I definitely meant pre-DSoD. I apologize.
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POST KINGU

THIS IS NOW A KINGU THREAD
LISTEN TO THIS AND POST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHU7K2mnVg
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>>148647781
>as long as the writers avoid as much bullshit filler as they can, a decent resolution can be done.
Isn't the next episode the characters being blocked by a duel pirate?
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>>148648212
>with no special power
but signers
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>>148648246
So you're saying all of DM is shit other than the movie which you haven't seen?
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>>148648309
Why does KINGU give the best advice /dng/?
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>>148648416
Don't play Stun?
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REMINDER THAT ARC-V WOULDN'T EVEN FUCKING NEED TO RUSH TO A CONCLUSION IF THE SYNCHRO ARC WASN'T COMPLETE TIME WASTING BULLSHIT

SYNCHROS RUIN YUGIOH SOMETHING AGAIN
EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>148648079
>So?
He's an insufferable Gary Stu, and the worst one among every YGO protagonist. None of them have reached the point where their comrades accept that they're not needed for the hero to prevail.

>>148648137
>>148648227
Judai, Yuma and Yuya to an extent were saved by their friends several times. Did you already forget about GX season 3 with Judai being saved by Jim and O'Brien, the early Barian arc with Yuma, Kaito and Shark as the main duelists and the Miami Cup? Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?
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>>148648096
>5Ds
>Most final

It has more dropped plot points than any other series.
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>>148648212
>Yusei is just a normal guy with no special power
>signer
>the crimson dragon stacks his deck for him
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>Elder God Tier
1st Half of 5ds
DM Season 2

>Great Tier
GX Season 3
Arc-v Pre Synchro
DM Season 1
Zexal II

>Good Tier
GX Season 1
DM Season 5
Arc-v Post Synchro

>Okay Tier

Second Half of 5ds
GX Season 4
GX Season 2

>Bad Tier
Arc-v Synchro Arc
DM Season 3

>WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TIER
DM Season 4
Zexal
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>>148648379
What does that actually do though? It's not like it gives Yusei any special abilities or something. All he does is summon the Crimson Dragon when all the signers are together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jrorstglj0
something something hikari sasu michi to nare

>>148648534
>Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?
Considering he only actually wins because of backrow that was set by Crow or Jack, or their synchros in the grave? You tell me.
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>>148648408
There are definite highlights, but half of those episodes can be fucking flashbacks to the last episode. There are flashbacks every two fucking seconds I swear to god. But then you get stuff like Yugi vs. Strings,Yugi vs. Arkana, Jonouchi vs. Keith, Kaiba and Yugi vs. those two mask assholes, and a bunch of other examples that don't immediately come to mind but are still pretty damn fine. It's just that the ending is hot trash garbage with little or no closure after the Ceremonial Duel, which is itself a pretty good duel.

>>148648573
Unlike DM and GX, it has a conclusion for more than one or two characters.
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>>148648515
At least we got some good characters out of it.
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>>148648701
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>>148648534
>Did Yusei actually need team 5D's help a single time during the WRGP?
Yeah against Zushin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLC8DXkD5a0
Monster Baton + BLACKWINGS = gg no re
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>>148648701
>>What does that actually do though?
It gives you a shitty synchro that bounces itself during the end phase and an equally shitty tuner that does nothing by itself.

Majestic support when
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>>148648352
Holy fuck, are you serious? I seriously might stop watching this shit then. What the literal fuck. They're in the Fusion dimension and they're still stalling?

I bet it's to convert the whol dimension into EGAO followers and make Leo see his errors

>>148648416
WAGA TAMASHI

>>148648515
Synchro's are best.

>>148648534
Didn't watch GX. Don't plan to. You could argue that Yusei is just a better duelist than them, and he probably is, since he actually thinks about his opp's plays and field, which hasn't been done to a protg since. Yuya just screams EGAO and converts into a faggot, Yuma borke down and cried to Astral and I dunno about Judai.

And yes Yusei did need help at points, hence the duel with Godwin.
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>>148648695
Bump certain parts of DM Season 3 up to good and this is a pretty solid list.
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>>148648926
>the duel with Godwin.
And the show ended here.
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>>148648695
I still think 2nd half of 5Ds was great. Better than any most series' garbage era's.
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>>148648895
At least Sage and Mausoleum help with consistency.
The hard part is getting out RDA or Stardust.
Metamorphosis for synchros when?
>>148648956
Season 3 was trash, what the hell you talking about?
Noah had no business existing
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>>148649056
Crashtown was the only part of 5D's throughout 65 to 108 that was actually acceptable quality.
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soo, why do 5dsfags feel the need to shit on other seasons? are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?
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>>148649005
>I didn't watch the second half of 5Ds

Stop
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>>148648926
Guided by Serena, Yuya and co. boarded a ship, which, shockingly, turns out to be a pirate ship. Even though they realize that it’s a trap, it is already too late. As Yuya and his friends are shaken by this sudden turn of events, they are fiercely assaulted and driven into a corner by the Duel Pirate, Captain Solo.
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>>148649162
>are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?
And the fact that it was the LEAST popular Yugioh show in Japan and how it almost fucking killed Yugioh. Zexal was a fucking godsend for the series because it catapulted Yugioh back into the spotlight
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>>148648926
>Holy fuck, are you serious? I seriously might stop watching this shit then. What the literal fuck. They're in the Fusion dimension and they're still stalling?
5D's had worse filler episodes, didn't it? the whole pre-WRGP thing was worse than the current ARC-V episodes
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>>148648695
>the boring fuckfest that is GX's first 30 episodes
>above DARKNESS arc
Wha the fuck are you doing you dumb nigger
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>>148649195
>Yuya fucking duels captain solo
>Captain han solo
>kozmoooooo
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>>148649290
>LEAST popular Yugioh show in Japan
Might have something to do with a certain drop in writing quality and production values after episode 64.
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>>148649162
>are they that insecure about the sex cult meme?
So aside from MUH ILLUMINATI CULT OF OLD MEN and MUH FEMALE CHARACTERS RELEVANCE did this really hurt 5ds?
At least it helped give Crow more screentime so Blackwings could get more support.
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>>148649401
I think you've forgotten just how fucking rushed season 4 was.
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>>148649436
Shh, don't say anything positive about Blackwings, you'll trigger the autists.
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>>148648818
>no closure after the Ceremonial Duel

What the fuck?

>Yugi proved he's better than Atem anD grew out of his shadow

> Atem solved the mystery of his past and finally leaves for the afterlife.

>Kaiba acknowledges Yugi is the KoG (which is totally OOC but acceptable since manga Kaiba and anime Kaiba are two different characters) .

>Bakura is taken care of and millennium items/God cards are sealed away.

>Atem's story is over and normal life resumes for Yugi whose story is just starting.

It's perfectly fine unless you're some artist who needs every single detail shown to them.
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>>148649115
Season 3 is that arc? The Virtual world? I thought it was Waking the Dragons.

Okay yeah fuck the Virtual World arc.
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>>148649426
And the sex cult, don't forget about the sex cult
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>>148649162
>DM was shit aside from Battle City, whcih is all I can remember and maybe some Waking the Dragons
>Zexal was shit but Zexal II was pretty good up until the ending, which basically erased everything
>Haven't watched GX, but heard it goes to shit near the end

>>148649293
>5Ds filler
>Jack vs Jack
>Jack vs Mafi
>Crashtown

All I can remember desu. I'll amdit all filler's are trash though, aside from the ones mentioned, but they're miles better than the Arc-V ones we've had.
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>>148649436
Shut the fuck up and play BLACKWINGS
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>>148649524
What do people have against Blackwings?
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>>148649436
the show was supposed to head in an entirely different direction, jack & carly were supposed to become a couple and probably yusei & aki too
team unicorn would have never happened, yliaster would have never happened and 5d's would have been the best YGO show ever
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>>>/a/
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>>148649470
And?
It was still better than anything from the duel with the Gravekeeper's Chief until Kagemaru, and far better to everything that cam before that.

Giving closure to everyone's character arcs while also setting up a threat that's ALSO given closure while ALSO sending off the series with a good epilogue in 24 is basically the perfect final arc.
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>>148649589
Oh yeah, Eita and the next episode on the boat? Very relevant.
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>>148649426
>sex cult
I didn't really watch 5Ds, what the fuck are you on about?
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>>148649436
>it helped give Crow more screentime so Blackwings could get more support.
Yeah, by cucking other characters with their screentime. look at the Last train opening. you CLEARLY see the power trio is Yusei, Jack, AKI
the next opening mysteriously changed the trio to Yusei, Jack, and Crow.
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>>148649747
Carly's VA was a member of a sex cult. It stirred up a scandal in Japan, she was fired from the show and the writers were forced to rewrite everything from scratch.
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Can we all agree that if you watch any series that you skip
>Dungeon Dice Monsters
>Virtual World
>DOMA
>KC Grand Prix
>Society of Light and Seven Stars
>Pre-WRGP
>Pre WDC
>Synchro arc of 5ds
>>148649597
They're mad that Crow made Aki and the Twins irrelevant and getting shitted on by Armor Master ;) and ASF + Anti Reverse.
Let's not forget Kalut and Gale being at 3 even add more salt.
They even won Worlds.
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>>148649712
>in 24
24 episodes, I mean
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Official YGO Power Ranking

Elder God Tier:

DM manga + DSOD movie

Great Tier:

5Ds Fortune Cup arc

Good Tier:

GX manga


Garbage Tier:

Everything else
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>>148649547
>Nothing about Joey or Serenity
>Nothing about Yugi and Anzu at all despite that being a big factor in Yugi and Atem's relationship
>Mai continues to have disappeared for no particular reason after Waking the Dragons despite what a big part she had in Joey's character arc
>Kaiba's personality turning from I DON'T ACCEPT THIS MAGICAL BULLSHIT DRAGON DICK MONSTER IS REAL to WOW IT LOOKS LIKE YUGI HAD THE GHOST OF A PHARAOH IN HIM THE ENTIRE TIME, HE REALLY IS THE BEST DUELIST on a dime

It was completely unsatisfactory.
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>Abyss Actor - Wild Hope is a Hope AKA Utopic monster in the OCG
Fuck you, KoA/4 Kids. You should have stuck with King Hope.
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>>148649872
>skipping DDM
DDM is cool. The GBC game is fun.
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>>148649872
>DOMA
Wait what the fuck? The Waking the Dragons arc was awesome filler and its the only season where we see Atem get COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY BTFO and it also gave us DURAW MONSTAA CAARDO
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>>148649872
>>Society of Light and Seven Stars
Seven Stars is solid.
As for Society of Light, just watch the episodes featuring Edo and Kaiser.
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>>148650003
"Abyss Actor - Wild Utopic"?
How are KoA going to solve this one?
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>>148649872
You can't skip the whole Synchro arc. It introduces many important plot points, and it's actually not as bad as people make it out to be. Sure, it was slow, and it didn't give the characters any room for interaction, but that's that. It had excellent worldbuilding and powerful moments/scenes, such as the conclusion of Kurosaki vs Dennis.
Really, it was better than anything 5D's did after episode 64. I just can't wait for the hitotsu ni subplot to unveil so the Yuseitards shut their mouths once and for all.
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>>148649936
>>Nothing about Yugi and Anzu at all despite that being a big factor in Yugi and Atem's relationship
DSoD got that for you.
They're still friends and Anzu moved to America and if she hasn't been mindbroken by BBC, she might consider coming back to marry Yugi.
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>>148649936
You watched the dub.
Kaiba at no point is "WOW FUCK MAGIC" in the japanese version, he doesn't give a shit about what he did in his previous life because what matters to him is the present.

4kids actually cut out the epilogue showing Mai.
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>>148649872
>Skipping ZA WARUDO O SHOUKAN
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>>148650179
Wild Hope
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>>148650290
>(This card is always treated as a Utopic monster)
And Zexal continues to ruin Yugioh.
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>>148650230
>Really, it was better than anything 5D's did after episode 64.
Arc-Vfags are fucking hilarious at times.
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>>148650407
I'm sorry your favorite show was ruined by a literal meme.
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>>148650063
>that absurd amount of edge.
nah monsta cardo can't even save it. Why does no one talk about the Kamen Rider when they talk about season 4?
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>>148650230
>implying the hitotsu ni subplot will last more than one episode before EGAO and YUZU are back

Top kek, how deluded are you? They're too afraid to do anything which might hinder the show's ratings and while every adult watching the show hates EGAO, the kids probably eat it up, so they'll go with it.

5D's after 64 was still beter than this garbage and you know it. At least no one went to Yusei after a duel and acted like they converted religions.
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>>148650251
I've seen both, but most recently watched a dubbed copy with subs. So admittedly my knowledge on this isn't 100%. I don't remember a Mai epilogue at all, though, I've just blanked completely on that.

>>148650234
Again I haven't seen DSoD. I can't judge it as part of the DM ending.
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>>148650497
>They're too afraid to do anything which might hinder the show's ratings and while every adult watching the show hates EGAO, the kids probably eat it up, so they'll go with it.
I'd really like a source on that. Do you have any basis for your argument(such as the interview of a writer), or are you just talking out of your ass?
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>>148650487
That entire duel is mediocre right up until Joey gets his own suit of Red-Eyes armor. That armor's fucking sick.
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>>148650497
>Kids
>not liking edge
That's not my childhood.
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>>148650375
>GX was so much shit cards that it killed the TCG
>5ds introduced synchro which ruined YGO
>Zexal introduced r4 and HOPU
>Arc-V gave us DUEA and PePe
Clearly we should have stopped at DM like Kaz intended.
Everything past tne Ceremonial Duel/DSoD is trash.
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>>148650230
ONE (1) good moment in that shitpile of an arc does not fucking excuse the goddamn drag it was on the series. Even the best villain introduced so far, Roger, completely fell flat when it was his time to shine and got destroyed by Reiji like a goddamn chump

Fuck the only other good thing we got out of that arc was ENJOY but his cards are fucking shit
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>>148650476
Clear Mind and Limit Over Accel Synchro are still the hypest shit
Arc-V doesn't have anything that even matches that.
Also suffers from a weak as fuck score, Nakagawa can definitely do better than what he's doing right now.
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>tfw havent played since dino-rabbits

what's op
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>>148650647
>>5ds introduced synchro which ruined YGO
People still spread this meme?
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>>148650651
>ONE (1) good moment in that shitpile of an arc
That's why I talked about several good moments, right? Of course, I didn't expect you to read my post properly, seeing as you're probably blinded with frustration at the idea that your favorite show might not be as good as you thought.
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If you were going to download a podcast series that covers news and events in the world of dueling, do you start at the start, where you get all the old news but you can appreciate it in hindsight, as well as getting all the banter from the hosts, or do you start from the most recent and go backwards?
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>>148650749
Kozmos, Monarchs, PePe, Burning Abyss, and soon Blue-Eyes.
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>>148650749
kozmo, monarchs, burning abyss
soon to be good: metalfoes, blue-eyes

I'd tell you to read the OP but not even I read it so I'd look like a real hypocrite if I did that :^)
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>>148650476
>ruined
If you mean having Yusei show off more of his skills, Jack going back to being based KINGU and Crow giving us more BLACKWINGS to win worlds with and edgy/romance shit being cut as it should be then yes it was ruined.
5ds season 2 was based, it just had slower pacing than season 1.
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>>148650749
>Tfw Dino rabbit wouldn't even make the evolzars anymore since they have access to this now.
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>>148650840
Literally what other good moments were there you shithead? Everything outside Choujiro and Dennis v. Kurosaki was trash, there were no other good moments and the world building was only for the fucking irrelevant Synchro arc which nobody gave a fuck about. HURR MUH CLASS WARFARE how did that help the plot at all?
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>>148650984
No, I mean... Yusei becoming a mindless Gary Stu, Jack and Crow becoming jobbers and the writing not being as good as before.
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>>148649936
>Joey and Serenity

Joey's character arc was already done. So was Serenity's. There's really nothing else left to do.

>Yugi and Anzu

This is a fucking shonen kids anime. Go look for romance elsewhere.

>Mai

If you watched the subs she resumes her life of dueling and teams up with the Chinese chick who wanted Yugi's dick against the Paradox brothers at then end of the final episode.

>Kaiba

The magic mumbo jumbo stuff was all 4kids, they made it seem like a big deal when it really wasn't. Kaiba was focused on his present and never really cared for his past connections, but with all the Battle City and Millennium World shit he was eventually forced to realize there was something there. There are still many inconsistencies with his character portrayal as a result of NAS incompetency.


I love DM but the anime isn't that great. I would suggest you read Kaz manga which pretty much fixes all the major flaws of the anime while leaving out all the unnecessary filler.
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>>148650872
Always start at the beginning and binge-listen.
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When do you think DSoD will be available? I want to watch it for Kaiba.

>>148650595
>being this retarded

Tell me, how many whole episodes has Yuya stayed evil before MUH YUZU or MUH EGAO killed it? I think it was about 4 maximum 5. You don't need to be a psychologist to figure out which audience thy're asrgeting, fuckwit. He doesn't even want to use Yuto's power, which shows how little they'll spend with it. From what I remember, when Judai caved in, he finally let go since he lost everyone. They won't do that here. In fact, the only people he's lost have been the fish dude and that stupid fucking cook, both of which no one gave a fuck about.

But yeah, you carry on with that thought process. And when everyone finally complains how shit Arc-V was for not letting Yuya cave in, remember me.

>>148650632
I know, but we're from a different gen. Maybe jap kids like this shit.

>>148650984
This
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>>148651063
Calm down. We're just discussing anime.
Do you really need to call me a shithead and write in all caps?

Going back to the argument, yes, there were other good moments such as Jack vs Yuya, Yugo vs Sawatari and Yugo vs Serena. Worldbuilding does matter, because the Synchro arc matters as a standalone arc and criticizing the show for something it did well is plain dumb.

>>148651218
Sure.
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So how do Meta decks out this?
I'm pretty nothing but lightning gets over this if it's in defense mode with xyz mats.
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>>148651468
Not him, but Yugo vs Sawataru was shit. The Serena one was good. Also, the synchro arc is very forgettable, especially since none of the characters joined the Lancers. Maybe if Jack and Crow joined, there would have been an actual point in going.
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>>148651614
Gameciel.
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>>148651614
hit it until it doesnt have mats
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>>148651683
Crow is appearing in the next episode. He might be joining Yuya in Fusion Dimension.
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>>148651614
kaiju the dora
or use prime photon, either works really
also baiting the effect and solemning it works
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>>148651614
Fucking Kaijus why are people pretending like these cards don't exist still?
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>>148651752
>not Jack

Fuck this show.
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>>148651760
>prime photon
Derricrane ;)
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>>148651847
Yes, I was disappointed too.
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>>148651863
banish return ;)
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>>148651614
Kaijus.
Bait with Break Sword, chain Fog Blade.
Bait with Dark Destroyer, chain Kozmojo
Not sure what Monarch do beside go first and play Domain.
And as always, until they finally fucking limit it, Strike.
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How would you make Ancient Gear Chaos Giant threatening, like in the anime?
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>>148651614
honest, i dont understand why people dont run it on blue eyes deck to kill the lighting
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>>148651752
Seriously?
I honestly would prefer more of him over Kaito
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>>148652141
>honest the Lightning
Subtle...
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I'm hearing alot about Ancient Gear in these threads. Is this a meme/pet deck or is it legitimate? I'm curious and would like to run it. Does anyone have a deck profile?
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>>148652130
2 or more Ancient gear cards

Cannot be targeted

Gains an additional atk for each material

When atks/is atked, card effs cannot be used
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>>148652156
Me too. I hate ARC-V Kaito.
I hate the fact that he stole Shun's role, too.
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>>148652141
That's because Blue-eyes can steal Lightning with Cipher Dragon and then turn it into Dark Matter.
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>>148651009
>this op shit

is this top tier yet. i want a frog deck.
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What cards can blow up Geartown and have the effect happen?
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>>148652435
Ancient Gear Catapult and setting the next Field Spell before you play it over Geartown
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>>148652242
Geartown + Catapult is an instant R8 or 9 of your choice.

Catapult works because it's "and if you do"
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>>148652130
Chaos Giants anime effect is pretty good. Issue is his bullshit summoning requirements.
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>(2) Banish this card from your Graveyard, then target a face up card you control; destroy that card and special summon an “Ancient Gear Token” (Machine-Type/EARTH/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0).
>destroy that card and special summon
Wait, so if you somehow target something that can't be destroyed by card effects, you still get the token out?
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>>148652435
magical hats
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>>148651614
Odd-Eyes alongside a Performapal gets over it.
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>>148652856
The Destruction and the Summon happen at the same time, so yes.
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>>148653067
Derricrane ;)
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>opponent swallows nests his sirocco into another sirocco for two 2000 boosts PLUS kalut and OTKs me with a 9k chidori
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>>148652578
Spoonfeed me, Captain. What am I throwing in there?
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>>148652242
The new support is making it relavent, and you can finally summon Golem from the deck with the new card.
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>>148653275
I don't know.

But definitely speedroids.
Speedroids go in everything.
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>>148653460
That sounds really interesting. I look forward to it's revival. I love it when pet-decks get some support and can go in with some viability. Been losing a shit ton and bricking with Toons lately but ayyy. Looking forward to giving the Gears a spin.
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>tfw you miss the days of 40goodcards.dek
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>>148647176
It's not particularly secret. But just splash them with Odd-Eyes and Performapals.
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Is it degenerate if I want a gf who enjoys dressing me up in girly clothes and forcing me into having degrading submissive sex where I'm the girl?
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Buy machine dupes now to dupe other people into buying them from you
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>>148653563
>Speedroids
Might as well throw in Brilliant Fusion as well.
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>>148653895
It means you're probably a cuck
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