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Skin Traders On Suicide Watch Edition

Previous Update: >>148175071

>(NEW) Workshop Manual
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (Frank is back)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date, somebody update this shit already):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc
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juden
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>New heist revealed.
>It's another "bully Murkywater" heist.
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>>148559662
>!
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Every single time.

Every single goddamn one.

I swear this safe only contains Road Rashes.

And this mint is a duplicate too. I hate everything.
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>>148559930
>It's another bully Murkywater heist where you only fight Murkywater for the first 3 minutes before standard piggies take over.
They have no excuse after the Russian Reapers came out. Especially since the FBI files on all the Murkywater heists say that the cops had no involvement until the crew had already peaced out.
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>>148559930
I'd like a smooth heist with lots of planning into it (that'll more or less inevitably go to shit because lol, stelf), say a Framing Frame or Bin Bonk. Preferrably a multi-day one but we all know how that goes.
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>>148559930
Does anyone else want another heist in a different country? I liked fighting the Russian mercs in boiling point so I feel like another country could be nice.
That or like >>148560257 said, a heist where the standard Washington PD never shows up would be cool, just leaving you with a really big gang or PMC.
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>>148560257
Murky heist where it's just non-stop Murkies would actually be nice.
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Where are the lewds?
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>>148560257
>>148560880
>>148559930

If we're gonna be bullying the Murkies so much, it would be nice if they expanded their roster to include every type of unit, like the ruskies.
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>>148561923
I think a neat concept would be a couple of factions (or all of them) just banding together to try and take us out.

Like, we raid the GenSec cloning facility and initial spawns would be just Specials and once we eliminate them, the Murkies are called in with the extra cops and once we make our escape, we have to deal with a non-stop wave of gangsters. All on the same day.
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>>148562404
What if we could call in our own backup as a purchasable asset? Like Sixth Sense, you'd have have to ace Joker to access it, and buying it would ready a team of four goons that enter the fray when shit goes loud. They act as
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>>148562797
...converted cops and cannot go down.
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>>148562404
I wanted a heist where it's a free for all with Murkies, Russian Mercs, MPD, Cobras, Overkill Biker Gang, the Hondurans, what's left of the Mendozas, Russian Mob, GenSec, FBI, and anyone else who has appeared in the game all fighting each other and us for one reason or another.
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>>148562797
There'd be no sense of excitement if we can call in backup that wasn't just the escape driver.
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>>148562797
interesting idea, but they have to be able to die at some point
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>>148563148
By "not being able to go down," I mean they can't be revived. When their health hits zero, they're dead.
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>>148562797
If Overkill can't even implement a third AI heister despite modders being able to do so, I doubt they'll be able to handle the entire crew being able to call sixteen goons into battle.
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All safes can be opened without drills now?
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>>148563412
Wait, scratch that, saw that it was meant to be an asset. Still, I stand by my words of Overkill's laziness.
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>>148563412
>I doubt they'll be able to handle the entire crew being able to call sixteen goons into battle

Christ, I didn't think of that. That'd be great though.

AI Cloaker Heister when?
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>>148563543
It'll be great right until it kicks a cop and crashes the game just like the beginning.
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>>148563734
You could have the cop just ragdoll on hit I guess.

>Buy Cloaker bro in preplanning
>Go to set up thermal drill
>"WULULLULULULULULluluhahaha holy shit, I totally got your ass."
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Hi, I'm SolarPleTeX, and I'm addicted to achievements.

I've been using the site for a couple years but never got around to joining until I heard about the achievement trading threads. I'm not that hardcore of a gamer, and I don't play many games but when I do, I can't stop until perfect every aspect of it. Now, I've reached the point of my gaming career where my games have online-only achievements and all my friends play Steam games on the PC so they're no help.

I was able to live with it when Halo 3 and Halo 3 ODST came out (lol vidmaster challenges) because I'm not that great of a FPS player (despite playing lots of FPS games) but now, I feel that my achievements list needs more zeroes in it. So, I'm poking my head in here to see if I could get a couple boosting parties going for a couple "old" games and then work through my backlog and then help other people out too =) (because I hate being a leech).

Here's to unlocking more achievements.
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Postal Dude character pack and 5 day heist where you literally just play Postal 2 instead Payday when? Including a peaceful method to complete the whole heist in casing mode with a lot of waiting
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>>148564823
What kinda perk deck would Postal Dude give us?
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>>148564823
>Wanting Leddit character pack
No thanks, Postal 1 > 2
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>>148565309
>calling things I don't like Reddit so people think I belong here
gb2reddit
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>>148565453
Triggered, reddit?
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>>148565029
Bonuses to making enemies fear and to setting pigs on fire? Maybe killing civs increases your damage by a set % for something like 30 secs?
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>>148565029
Not sure on perks but his character pack weapon and melee would definetly be the napalm launcher and the shovel.

It should be based around panic and wanton destruction.

And maybe let you do more things in casing mode? Like an expanded Sixth Sense perk?
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Requesting the Nice Blog Dumbass pic.

>>148564823
That sounds like an awful idea to be honest my famala.
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>>148565309
>Postal 2 Dude
>Reddit
What
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>>148562797
waht is this from?
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>>148565767
will the shovel let you jump and fly around backwards?
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/PDG/ BIG LOBBY 16 PLAYER GAME LET'S SET IT UP
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>>148567459
Right now?
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>>148567459
Is that possible?
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>>148567889
Yes, but Almir WILL ban you on steam.
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>>148568697
Overkill can't even ban you from the game. Let alone Steam.
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>>148560193
take this post to csgog and prepare to get laughed out of court
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>148559368
WE WUZ GOAT SKINS AND SHIET
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>>148570867
ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY ACCENT?
STAY.
DOWN.
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>>148569259
I don't play CS:GO though.
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Turkish coup heist when?
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>>148571874
Vlad contracted Nice heist when?
>Alright gang, Vlad's officially gone nuts. He's trying to extort protection money out of the french government. To do this, we've transported the truck you guys lifted his safes out of LA with out to a place called Nice, but it won't be so nice when you're through with it will it? Get the truck, cause some havoc, and then wait for the escape. You should only have to worry about the local French PD interfering, so enjoy those easy converts clowns.
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>>148572421
Vlad wouldn't trust a religious fanatic to do the work.

He has no reason to contract such an attack.
Also he's probably purely DC-based.
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>>148560403
Raiding a North Korean cargo ship that is transporting in secret stolen coke that was part of class business and arms from Venezuela. Yes the North Koreans Do secretly transport arms and stolen coke
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Koksal Baba heister when?
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>>148573047
>The gang fucking with North Korea.
Man they really could not cause a bigger shitstorm than that.
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It's like he didn't even try.
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>>148573331
>this pic

totally worth being a red epic skin
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-01-02/the-great-canadian-maple-syrup-heist
Maple syrup heist when
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Post your favorite mod_override track, Hotline Miami 2fags are welcome too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1jzihYB0Q
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>>148573616
>Indeed, the syrup trail soon led to free-market renegades inside and outside the province who opposed what was, in their view, a Communist program. It wasn’t just about syrup, or money. It was a miniature Canadian Cold War.
So...a monopoly on production is a Communist plot?

Canadians are weird, eh?

This sort of heist would be cool though.
Make it another comfy stealth-only map that lets you secure several hundred tractor-trailers' worth of maple syrup, one truck at a time. Might need a different stealth mechanic than 4-pagers-and-alarm though.
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Let's do it, /pdg/. Let's think up a stealth dynamic that works better than what we have and is more fun than, as >>148575169 phrased it, 4-pagers-and-alarm. Just throw out ideas.
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>Having looked in to it, we're sad to say SteamOS will not get the Workshop feature since it would require an immense amount of time to implement it. Apologies if this hasn't been made clear earlier. We would of course love to offer the Workshop functionality to all systems available but it is all connected with a lot of work. As we have limited resources and a lot of features we want to implement, we have to decide how to best spend our time. Thank you for understanding.

Translation: We never thought about it until somebody whined about it. And we don't give enough fucks.
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>>148575914
they're canadians, so why not just say sorry?
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>>148576481
Quebecois are assholes even by normal people standards. Sorry ain't good enough for them.
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Any up to date skill guides? It's been like half a year since I last played and everything is different and split into 3 subtrees each or some shit like that.
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>>148578467
Fucking kill yourself
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>>148578467
Randomly pick skills and then join Deathwish heists. It's what most people seem to do.
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>>148575914
Shift focus away from the pager system while still keeping it in play by only having the page happen if guards are alerted or suspicious to your presence before dying. Replace it with these:

>A) Revised noise mechanic
The sound of a body hitting the floor or making a death gurgle makes guards in the area investigate and civilians move to ask nearby guards what is going on, prompting them to investigate.

>B) A proper lighting system
To make up for how much easier the game becomes by nerfing pagers, guards are 3x the sightline. Civs are given 2x the sightline. However, shadows make you/corpses/bags a ton harder to spot, meaning you have to consider how light/dark your position is and not only how best to dance around a chair to block line of sight.

Done. There's still a four pager limit, mind you.
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>>148578467
Just look through it carefully. Most of the important shit is at the bottom of skill trees. Then get whatever you feel suits you best.
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>>148576696
Because they have to deal with all the a
Anglo Canadians bs, it is like how certain married couples seem perfect on the outside yet in reality they constantly argue behind closed doors
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>>148579808
>Anglo Canadian

What kind of game is this?
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Killing Floor crossover when?
>Mr. Foster becomes playable heister and wears his mask over his gas mask
>heist where Horzine hires the payday gang to discreetly retrieve vital data/personnel from a secret DC lab after a cloning machine went haywire and started uncontrollably spewing out specimens that killed pretty much everyone there
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>>148583685
>specimens
>cloakers
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>>148583685
There was already a crossover when Tripwire went full retard and included crates in an early access game right after Overkill released their own to massive backlash. I don't think Overkill is interested in a real collaboration with Tripwire since they probably wouldn't be paid for it and Trashly constantly shitposted against KF2 here. Plus KF2 is pretty much PD2's closest competition since Rockstar bailed on making any more GTAO heists.
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>>148584527
>since Rockstar bailed on making any more GTAO heists.
Why the fuck did they do that? I haven't played GTAV but didn't they market the shit out of that?
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>>148584848
They've pretty much abandoned doing anything that doesn't involve trying to jew people out of ever increasing amounts of real world money in GTAO.
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>>148584848
Don't know. Guess it's easier to make stupidly expensive stuff to sell shark cards and crappy gamemodes rather than make good PvE content.

I still prefer GTAOs heists over Payday 2s any day. Much more thought out and not as repetitive.
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>>148561705
When we actually get drawfags for this general
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Is Eagle Heavy viable after the patch? I like the feel of it but I feel like I'm gimping myself whilst using it and just go back to the same 'ol M308 + Bronco combo

Also, can anyone more well versed in Turkish politics than me explain who is winning? I'm trying to keep up with what's going on but no news outlet I can find seems to be leaning in either direction right now
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why do some heisters like wolf and hoxton have such quiet voice lines? I can barely hear them during assault waves
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i could've sworn that i heard Wolf "awoo" before
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>>148588818
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ARMS OUTSTRETCHED
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>>148588818
You probably heard Jimmy calling him. He does that during assaults.
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>>148588818
no that was just the stomach growl of a fatass awoofag who missed meal number 8 of the day
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>>148591858
nice get
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All i have been trying to do the last half hour is play the fucking game but the universe just wont let me

>joining game
>failed to join session

>you have been kicked
>connection to the host lost

every fucking time

>switch skills to go loud
>only heists marked stealth appear on crime.net
>switch skills for stealth
>only loud heists appear on crime.net

JUST LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU FUCKISDBNGASOGBUGBJKFSDGBNKJGBFDKJGBFDISGBDFIGUH FDGFSDOKG BHDFJS GSDJHV FGBHDXH FDJVFD78GFDFVBGID GHRIDYSUB
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>>148596004
>see favorite heist
>join
>immediate "Failed to join session."
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>>148596004
>Connection to the host has been lost
>Reconnect
>You've been kicked from the game
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ON YOUR FEET
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>148574230
Link to original song?

This actually makes a great song for a loud only heist.

Mod that lets us add custom heist tracks isntead of replacing existing ones when?
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when are we getting a new heist fuck!
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low quality sokolpost
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>>148575914
Problem is that a lot of stealth seems to be one of five categories:
- Kill all guards/NPCs that can spot you until map is empty
- Kill some guards/NPCs after 40 minutes of waiting to make it easier but still a hassle per loot bag
- Infinite patrolling guards forever so each trip with a lootbag is a hassle and a pain
- Kill no-one, restart the moment you get caught.
- RUSHRUSHRUSH, hahaha what alarm? Can't raise the alarm, sucks for you.

AC1 through AC3 suffered from the first problem a lot, and it was often the objective, where you just murder everyone on the map and shove them into one tiny-ass hay bale. AC:R had a temporary mechanic where you threw smoke bombs or flashbangs at guards to distract them but ultimately it was always to sneak past them in a no-kill run for 100%'ing it or just murdering every single one on the spot.

Also they all share the same property that because they're a puzzle, once you figure it out, it'll probably get boring to do after you do it a couple hundred times.


We need some sort of mechanic where it's clearly same puzzle/solution but there is enough variation that each run feels pretty fresh/different from the next. Of course, you'd say that's what PD2 is doing with the RNG but the RNG is just a variation of the same puzzle (as opposed to variations within a class of puzzle), doesn't actually get it right. Vault spawns facing north or west, keycards in random spots, who the fuck cares. But also at the same time, the solution to the new stealth needs to be avoid the "screw it kill them all" cheese and/or also the "can't kill anyone forever, give up after 1-2 trips around the map" type of unfun development. I think this is why SR and Murky Station are so easily likable because the only thing that matters is the loot placement with zero extra objectives involved. No extra thermal drills or shelf spawns or any other bullshit.
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Dear /pdg/

Does anyone know where to find voice lines for dlc characters, specifically Sokol?
Or, if you have a file with them all stored in, such as char_sokol, I'd be extremely grateful if you could upload it somewhere.

I'm trying to make a voice mod, but because Overkill can't organize for shit, I have to sift through hundreds of unnamed voice clips, and haven't found a single one from Sokol yet.
Voice mods placed in the mod_override folder seem to have a folder called char_(name) that overwrites voice lines. The files I've extracted from the bundle files don't have any of these char folders, but I was told that all the line should still be in my payday directory somewhere. I'm at a loss of where to find them now.

So if anyone can upload or point me to Sokol's voice lines, it would be a blessing.
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>>148606112
Seconding, searching Clownpiece gets me nothing.
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>tfw no Hotline Miami job for Hardcore Henry

I WANT TO KILL SLICK DMITRY OR SOMEONE ELSE
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>there are people in Steam RIGHT NOW who have been hoarding their free safes for no good reason at all
These people remind me of people who go around picking out the booster packs with holos in every store and waiting to sell them at a mark-up.

>>148608635
I found this comment: http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/364040166688899867/

Maybe you didn't extract them? Might be the cause of your suffering.
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>>148610786
Hm, I didn't realize that modbundler had an extraction tool. I've been using Wwise.

I'll try this and report back if it worked. Either way thank you for the tip.
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>>148559368
>implying skin traders won't jew their way out by buying more biker safes now they will be dropping four time less

Never underestimate the stupidity of the steam market
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Can you open all safes without drills now that they have been added to the rotation
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>>148613086
Just Biker and the 4 they re-released.
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>>148613395
wait, are the 4 re-releases in the base game yet?
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>>148613518
They're supposed to be available with Hotfix 105.1, yes.

Your weekly safe could be one of {Biker, Goat, FWB, Slaughter, Christmas} now in the card drops.
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>>148613550
is there a release date for hotfix 105.1?
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>>148613692
It's out...right now...came out this morning.
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>>148613816
oh, whoops
thanks
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What does Optical Illusions actually do? The forum drones seem to assume the description is reliable, and that it means someone else nearby will be targeted more often. I'm not convinced though.
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>>148614243
Who the fuck cares
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>>148610786
>>148611063

IT WORKED! :D
Thank you Anon for telling me about the modbundler extractor. I don't even remember what I used to extract it in the first place, but for whatever reason this worked much better.
Hell, I'll put your name in a little "credits" folder for this if you want, because this was the one thing stopping me from making it.

I'll be sure to drop a link here when I've got the mod working. I'm replacing Sokol lines with lines from LifeofBoris. I highly suggest his videos if you're into slavic, cheeki breeki humor.
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>>148615190
kys
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>>148615190
No need to credit.

Just sorry I didn't help you fix this sooner since I think you've been at this for weeks now.
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>>148618001
Weeks? Ah nah, I only started working on it last week. This was the one roadblock that would stop me from ever releasing it, though, so thank you.
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>>148609394
>>148606112

clownpiece is a character from touhou
the music is a remix of her theme pierrot of the star-spangled banner
idk the mix used in the video tho sorry friends
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>>148502863
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Caribbean Pirate (caribbean_pirate)
- In The Head! (any_50_headshot_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>join lobby
>all 4 of us dressed for the heist
>"In Options"
>other people are kicked
>PANIC
>leave lobby before i get kicked
this happened twice during free weekend
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>>148621926
Wuss.
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>>148622451
being kicked is a terrible fate
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>>148622964
It's like some sort of sadistic hazing ritual that makes you feel like you're part of the community.

Because you start kicking them too.
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>>148620953
>Keep those helmets flying! ;)

Get out Almir, this is a free shill board
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>>148606808
Still better than 90% of posts itt.
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>>148621926
>not being the host
>not kicking dodge faggots everytime
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>>148620953
>actually fun sidejobs
:3
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>>148625153
>tfw delusional CTV hosts kick me from OVKs because I'm wearing a suit
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>>148625278
pretty sure he kicked you because you're solarmemex
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>>148625278
Look at it this way: did you really want to play with such a shitter anyway?
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>>148625278
do you really want to play with someone named "ArcTheWolf"?
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129th for the developers using the skin unlocker during their twitch streams. Keep it classy overkill_jules
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>>148625331
>did you really want to play with such a shitter anyway?
Everybody's gotta start somewhere.

I used to do loud DW Transports as a sub-infamy with a Techghost stelf build and a Flak Jacket. Those were funny times.

>>148625380
As much as I'd like to heist exclusively with a small set of elite heisters in some sort of clan, you settle for what pubs you can get.
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>>148560193
at least it was mint
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>>148626182
I think /pdg/ should have a Steam group to simplify finding competent people, sue me. I know that /vg/steam groups have negative connotations - and with good reason, fuck the hellhole that is /tesg/ - but our game is one that actually demands teamwork for high end content and if your friends don't like the game you're shit out of look at the moment. It'd be a good resource to counter that problem.
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>>148627962
/pdg/ has already had a steam group and it has already proven to be shit multiple times.
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>>148627962
>actually demands teamwork for high end content
Sounds like you're trash
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>>148628056
It's not the most active regarding the game itself, but if you ask for a heist you usally get good company.
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>>148628335
>He thinks steamgroup shitters are good company
Sounds like you have shit taste in people
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>>148625454
One of their forum mods admitted to using the skin unlocker and it was just swept under the rug. Also look at any of the devs achievements. They cheat all their levels and infamies.
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>>148588818
episode 1 of the web series
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Still no updated on the achievements?
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>>148629992
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Frenzy fix fucking when
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>>148630471
Dumbest bug ever. Immortality combined with +40% damage. I've been using it with infiltrator to do the difficulty masks and it's just silly.
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y/n?
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>>148633298
the grip looks out of place and carbon fibre never looks good
other than that it's bloody terrific
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>>148633298
Wow that actually doesn't suck.

I want that.
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>>148633298
9/10 its ok
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>>148633298
As the other guy said, the grip needs a different material. I see where you're coming from and it might work but not with the one you're using right now. The lack of a bump map is hurting its appearance.
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>>148633298
fuck off with the grip and its litterally a 10/10
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>>148632425
>immortality
I'm a shitter who runs muscle+ICTV for DW, please explain. Doesn't Frenzy just give you 60% damage reduction? Can you stack it with other stuff?
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>>148635007
Damage reduction is supposed to be for health only.

The bug also applies it to armour. Suddenly your EHP is fuckhuge.

ICTV+Frenzy damage reduction+any armour based perk deck = HAHAHA I CAN'T DIE
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>>148635007
Of course you can. It's likely multiplicative, but between frenzy, infiltrator, underdog and whatever nerves of steel is called these days, you can fix a drill in the middle of the Army and laugh it off.

Also muscle is not so great on DW. You get downed once and most of the beneft is gone.
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Came back after a year break, saw Captain Fucknuggets with his 20 butt buddies and closed the game. I'm sorry I didn't buy the RPG DLC, Overshill.
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>>148635421
>What are grenades
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>>148635421
They die quite easily to the free community nades you fucking shitter.
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>>148635303
>Also muscle is not so great on DW. You get downed once and most of the beneft is gone.
Damn, why is that?

I feel like the main benefit of it is how tanky I am, and how the HP-regeneration means I'm never a burden on our medpacks and I'm not out of a fight for long. What's a perk deck that has a similar playstyle? Tanky brawler type of deal with a ton of sustain. Armorer any good?
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>>148573047
>north korea and venezuela

we mercenaries nao?
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>>148635680
Well, at 3% per 5 seconds, you take two and a half minutes to recover from the 10% that being downed leaves you on, assuming no further health damage. I mean, if you're actually managing to do that, then great, go ahead and use it.

Armorer is great if you have the reactions and caution to use the 2 seconds of invuln, but the +armor bonus is actually a bit weak. The ICTV itself is enough armor.
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>>148635680
Don't listen to the other guy. Before Update 100, Grinder and Muscle were the top tier perk decks.
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>>148637013
That's only because noone bothered with the true meta deck maniac
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>>148633391
>>148633664
>>148634636
I'll see what I can do about it
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new murky heist will be a Fallout crossover
we'll be stealing a highly advanced robot called a securitron, although it'll be a bit quirky and prone to doing odd things
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>>148638195
No
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>>148638195
power armor DLC when?
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>>148638279
you know it's gonna happen senpai

ovk likes money, bethesda likes money, both like doing stupid crossover shit, it's the only logical assumption
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>>148638195
>new murky heist
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>>148637013
>Don't listen to the other guy. Before Update 100

We aren't playing before Update 100.
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I want to do a melee build. Any useful tips beyond 'get a gud weapon and use the melee tree'?
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>>148640132
use crits too
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>>148640957
Ah, dozers. Good call.
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i pick Jacketto
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>>148644625
I pick CUTE
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>>148644625
I pick pilot almir because nobody in the payday gang can shoot down an aircraft, not even with an rpg.
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>>148644625
Definitely gonna pick Jacket
He's more than a match for Wolf, his insanity will confuse the shit out of Dragan and Rust, I can defend against Gage and Almir by throwing a penny down a storm drain, /pdg/tan is a female with no TD and ergo no proper firearm skills, so she's nothing to fear, The Elephant is just a black guy in a suit with presumably little weapons skills, and Chains is the only one that really worries me
/autism
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>>148644625
Isn't Chains canon a Navy Seal? It's a toss-up between him or Jacket, everybody else doesn't really matter.

>Wolf
Washed up businessman who watched one gangster flick too many. Also a Swede, we're pretty shitty.

>/pdg/-tan
Considering she's an embodiment of /pdg/ and we're all equally terrible almost down to a man she'll be the first to go.

>Dragan
RL super chill actor, I own a training-book he wrote. Still, just a regular-ass dude who happens to work at Interpol and rob banks on the side.

>Ron Perlman
Angry old fart who's just as likely to shotgun the shit out of you as he is to accidentally drop his shells because of arthritis. I'm betting on the latter.

>Elephant
Regular-ass dude who's just going to say fuck it anyway seeing as he's not a moron. Might hire the entirety of Murkywater to come after you if he thinks you're dangerous though.

>Chains
ADHD-riddled special forces dude with a penchant for drugs. Probably the most dangerous of all of them all except for Jacket.

>Almir
Dead on arrival

>Gage
Literally a fucking paraplegic

>Jacket
Former special forces dude gone psychotic madman who likes hurting other people. Depending on which mask he is wearing, either he or Chains will win, fifty/fifty odds. I'm going with Chains because he'd be better company while we wait and he's not liable to just baseball my head in because some dude in an owl mask told him to.
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>>148645930
You think that's autistic? I posted >>148646067
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>>148625278
Maybe it was because of the sentry. That's fair.
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>>148625278
>playing OVK with infamy XXV
lol
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>>148650232
>tfw no anime heister
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>the new safes are not tradeable or marketable
Well, there goes the free money
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>>148648583
>i only do deathwish bcuz I'm 2 pro for all the plebs god fuck ovk babbies why dont they like meat walls and getting downed with no warning whatsoever
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Is baby deagle still the absolute king of pistols?
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>>148653016
Forever, or just for a week like previous safes?
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what a fucking joke, this whole system feels like an afterthought
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>>148653484
I'm not saying that you should never play Overkill, but with 100-V or above you're playing on easy mode whichever difficulty you pick, mostly because of skills but also because of experience. Might as well challenge yourself a tiny bit.

Although the experience boost probably doesn't apply to you seeing as you cheated, no way you got to XXV legit playing Overkill.
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>>148656059
I'm not an XXV though, I'm only at IX-90.
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>>148654874
How fucking incompetent can these guys get?
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>>148654874
Overkill somehow made the system so complex and convoluted that even they can't force drop a certain skin to give to the guy who designed the skin.
How?
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>>148657345
Blatant excuses for their own laziness probably. TWI is the same with the skins in KF2, unable to give the creator free versions of their own stuff.
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>>148654874
>We can't do it because we're lazy and we just hoped nobody will bitch about it but oh well now I'll actually have to find a solution
go fuck yourself
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>>148657345
>>148657538
To be fair, it could just be that Valve doesn't give them the option to do so. Do other non-Valve games have systems where they give out self-made items for curated workshops like TF2 and CS:GO?
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>>148657991
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>>148659645
I'm not upset, it's not like I'll ever make any skins or buy any skins for the game
oh also kill yourselve shill
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one
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>>148662832
ONE!
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>>148653484
Someone needs to git gud or go back to very hard
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>>148625278
I would kick you for bringing turrets.
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goonmod creator works for starbreeze now?
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>>148625278
>playing as sydney
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>>148659645
You know what the fuck it is, dicks out for Harambe.
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>>148664785
Where do you see that?
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>>148670386
https://twitter.com/_JamesWilko on the side
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>>148671016
I think it's just "I make mods".

His resume on his website only lists BLT and Goonmod as personal projects, no mention of employment at Starbreeze.
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when is rogue buff?
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>>148673313
Hopefully never. If they ever buff rogue they're going to nerf something else, and suit dodge is never going to be done well.
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>>148620953
>>148625009
>>148625225
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Build A Raft Of Shields (any_25_shield_kills)
- The First Line (the_first_line)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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Alesso may be my least favorite heist in the game.

First of all, hearing Bain talk about how fucking amazing Alesso is when to most people he's a literally who.

The first 10 minutes of it make no sense. You can bring a guy with 6 C4, but oh no, those aren't good enough C4's, we need the one's the janitor left.

okay, barring all sense, he's decided to hide it across 5 closets, instead of, you know, 5 boxes in one room. Inconspicuously marked with a giant red X, that no one could ever be wary of.

If you're retarded and are trying to STELF?? this, you can't ECM these doors, because reasons. You need to painfully slowly lockpick them, in front of cameras in unreachable places, and around patrolling guards. But don't kill the guards because if you do you pretty much invalidate the next step.

Why anyone thought it was a good idea to have to slowly forklift around your mates becuase each of you grabbed 2 C4's instead of it all going to one person is a decision I cannot possibly rationalize.

Then you get the simon says bit, which is fine in theory, but goes on far too long, and on Loud is irrelevant. (We need to time it to the music so the crowd won't notice, but the gunfire and grenades are apparently pretty soundproof)

All the while Alesso's edgy track plays the whole time, and we can't change it because sweet sweet shill dollars. And the payout isn't even remotely worth the suffering.
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>>148671674
in the about section it says

Next Employer (July 2016 - Present)
The Voxel Agents (Sept. 2013 - June 2016)

the resume on his website also says

The Voxel Agents— Programmer
September 2013 - Present

but it's ex-voxel in his twitter profile

must be pretty recent
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>>148674608

I likeAlesso because of how large the cop spawns are in the map. It doesn't make a whole lotta sense, especially if you go loud, but man is it fun clearing out the lobbies in the map and the rooms near the firework room.
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>>148595231
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>>148675329
Maybe you're right. I didn't check for a date on the resume so it could be outdated.
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>>148675337
I figured the cop spawns were so big because of the 1000+ plus civilians in the arena and the fact that the Payday gang are essentially terrorists.
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>playing DW Rats with pubbs
>realize as a team we've cooked 2 meth bags without letting a single cop in the house
>might actually get that achievement, and got to play with competent pubs which is an achievement in it's own
>starting uip bag 3
>hosts internet disconnects
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>>148673826
they should at least try to make it somewhat worthwhile instead of how it is right now as an inferior version of crook
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>>148560257
I just want another heist like Boiling Poiint where you fight non-cops

all those cops don't deserve to die desu they're just doing their jobs
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>>148677436
You could say the same thing about the mercs and soldiers, I imagine some of them don't deserve to get killed by heisters.
Heist where the only enemies are street gang members when
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>>148678074
I know we're immoral fucking bank heisters, but if they were true professionals they wouldn't leave such a body count

even capping security guards is dirty as fuck.

9/10s you shoot a guy in the head who's three feet in front of you, could easily be taken out with a bonk to the head or a little chokeout
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>>148674608
You're right how the entire heist is a stupid shitshow.

It's still fun loud though. Lots of corners to kite cops with, lots of cops to shoot.

I basically make it a point to just almost never do a single objective while my teammates are alive unless it's lugging money bags to the escape. I like sitting there for 40+ minutes to Alesso's dumb dubstep while shooting cops. Though, when I'm the last man standing, I camp a door with the red X on it and pray that the three pubs watching me have fun will notice that they should open the door. Sometimes I do things like pick it for 5 seconds while they watch, then stop and go back to shooting cops because as you pointed out, the C4 is a pretty retarded objective strewn around for the sake of bullshit difficulty.

Pubs usually end up in custody a lot around the time when they're working the pyrotechnics or shooting cops in the basement for the cutters, so I often get to do the objectives while they sit around and watch. I like to tell myself that they're actually learning something from watching me but I know that they probably don't give a shit or already alt-tabbed out. But I secretly enjoy doing the pyrotechnics and placing and removing the cutters (because they're like drills).

Alesso probably would be 100% better if they put all the C4 in one fucking place, let you change/mute the goddamn music, and maybe blow up the entire map when somebody fucks up the pyrotechnics (or put the baddie in custody). They're probably not going to let you mute the music because musicians in collaborative shillings usually have random stupid clauses like 'You're not allowed to modify the music in any way in any part of the collaboration" and that includes just fucking muting it. OVK is incompetent in all aspects of development.

>becuase each of you grabbed 2 C4's instead of it all going to one person is a decision I cannot possibly rationalize.
Even when you yell at them to pick it up, they just don't care. It's infuriating.
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>>148573047
Could be part of a heist were the Hondurans took a coke runner and held a bunch of divers exploring a wreck of a Spanish galleon transporting silver, you have to make use a robo submersible to get the silver from the wreck. Includes divers bell, scuba, snorkel and swimming goggles masks, the Pindad ss1-m1, dragonav sniper rifle, Pkm, and an 94 guns, maybe some imfamous masks that are of famous pirates, i.e Anne Bonnie and black beard masks
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>>148678472
the song itself is okay, I like that it's the only song in the game that has unique bars for different parts of the heist (and is muted when you're downstairs, it's a nice touch) but the fact that bugs me is that Bain goes on about how fucking amazing Alesso is and all the advertisements featuring his face are impervious to bullets
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>>148677436
>>148678074
>>148678403
This is why I like to think that the payday universe is an alternate one where cloning has been perfected and already in mass use, makes me feel less bad about killing cops and guards, and it rationalizes the massive amounts of them.
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>in lobby
>only infamy 2 at the time
>everyone else is infamy 20-something
>out-perform all of them in body count and accuracy
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>>148675993
>the Payday gang are essentially terrorists.
Hey, you watched too many movies?!

We're professional heisters, not terrorists.
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>>148678758
>and all the advertisements featuring his face are impervious to bullets
That's probably an intended feature from their collaboration contract like the no-muting clause.

Musicians are autistically thorough about shit that'd potentially hurt their feelings.
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>>148678865
Sorry Bain, can't hear you; think I've defened myself with this grenade launcher.

Wheee, look at that one fly!
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>big oil day one
>get kicked for having more than 3 concealment

how were you fuckers planning on doing day 2 exactly
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>>148678819
Payday 2 is canon with Hardcore Henry and at least an AU of Hotline Miami, so massacres are pretty commonplace.

Hardcore Henry implies at the very least cloning is possible.
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>>148679147
stelf
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>>148678865
In just the first game the Payday Gang canonically
>Killed unarmed civilians.
>Blew up a bridge.
>Burned a man alive.
>Assaulted hostages.
>Leveled an apartment building.
non-canonically
>Stole a biological weapon.
And most importantly
>Slaughtered hundreds of law enforcement.
Considering the fact that they're now recruiting people from over seas and operating outside of DC, they're straight up terrorists.
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>>148679147
You can tell they're shitters because loud shots don't summon cops anymore. They have to call the cops in.

So you could just ECM rush it and as long as you grab the intel, your concealment matters jackshit.

I'm guessing most pubbies missed the memo about the noise thing.
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>>148678819
this is my headcanon desu

i mean really, there's even cloning company stock tickers in big bank
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>solo stealth the entirety of shadow raid dw for achievments
>1 hour in, almost twenty bags secured
>scrambling to get out the samurai armor and one last coke bag out before guards spot the open vault
>go to climb down sewer hatch but fuck up the angle and fall
I'll be frank lads, I am a little upset
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>>148680343
>Hour and 10 minutes
>18 bags
son
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>>148680343
This is why ziplines exist. Sorry for your loss.

>>148680670
Don't be so hard on him, clearly he's not as autistic as the rest of us yet.
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>>148680670
>>148680772
I am very poor at STELF tbqh, I just want the cheevos. Most of the time it feels like a boring drag/minigame which takes twice as long as just shooting shit up and getting out. On top of that, pubbing stealth is a pain because one rotten egg can and will fuck it up, so ever since my buddies got tired of the game I have done virtually none of it. I always want to ask in the general if anybody wants to do a stealth achi run of big bank or something but god knows asking for teammates on /vg/ is russian roulette. Looking at you, /kf2g/ and /ps2g/ - god rest your souls.
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>>148574230
I was really sad that this wasn't a heisting track. Bless modders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRM5Xv78iI
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>>148681475
I'm down for Big Bank with a group of four
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>stealth-only heist
>host dressed for loud
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>>148681475
>>148688390
Would also be willing to do Big Bank for acheivements.
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they changed frenzy description

they aren't "fixing" frenzy
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>148695857
Wouldnt Frenzy be balanced if it actually increased health damage in addition to reducing it? In a way forcing you to act frenzied and killing cops for armor regen?
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>>148699729
total health reduction I mean
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>>148646067
>because owl mask told him to

But anon Rasmus is Jacket's acknowledging he's a fucking man of muder, I would be worried about any mask but Don Juan
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>>148699729
>>148701359
If they really want Frenzy to also affect armour they should lower the reduction for armour damage and/or make it exclusive to the aced version.
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>>148675443
Now I want someone to make a Big Bank Sponge Bob speech
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>not using Corey in the house mask for your dodge build

What's your excuse?
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>>148702798
>using a dodge build
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>>148702798
Come again? Corey in the house mask?
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>ICTV
>frenzy
>berserker
>overkill
>inspire
>shockproof
>anarchist

this shit is too easy now
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>>148646067
>Literally a fucking paraplegic
>implying he wasn't a deadly assassin in the sixth episode of the webseries where he managed to fool his targets with perfect disguises
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>>148706773
yeah but he's a jew, so all it takes to defeat him is dropping a shekel or two somewhere so he takes off after them instead of killing you
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>>148705174
>not using armorer
>needs to be a health regen scrub
git gud
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>>148705174
Didn't the devs said in a stream they would nerf the shit out of frenzy because of its bugged status ?
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