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Lissandra is the cutest and best girl in League
she's a soft and pure qt who lactates ice cream!
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eyosongive.us
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YFW you get ace'd and the enemy are running it down mid
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>>148544770
first for shyv
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lissandra is doody and lactates poopy from her face!
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Been having fun with this build with mordekaiser. You should try it out!
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>>148545002

Hot D*MN that's some dank burn if I ever did see one.

Well done, young man.
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>>148544770
is it a very thin strand of compacted and soft ice cream
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>>148544943
>your team has 3 inhibs down + Baron + Elder, what would it be
>Ezreal: Just fuck my shit up
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>>148545078
Trinity first followed by gunblade?
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Who's currently the best midlaner in NA?
it's pob
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>mordekaiser is literally the only champion in the game without any form of CC, slows, dashes, or move speed increases
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>>148545252
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>watching evo

well this is a lot more fun than lcs

why don't they make a league fighting game?
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>>148545294
He has a movespeed increase
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>>148545294
>what is his W towards an ally
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>Vayne players
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How did UOL throw that last game? I wasn't paying attention.
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Is this a reddit thing?
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So I just played one game of nexus siege. We won, not like it felt like one anyway.

I get, the mode, like I get what it is and how it works and all of that.

But god fucking damn, its just fuckin weird man.
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>>148545294
Mordekaiser got an extremely conditional movespeed increase on his W in patch 5.4.

That said, your point still stands. The worst part is that it's ALL to accomodate his ultimate and passive.
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>>148545442
Someone accidentally a button too early
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>>148545442
Ezreal memed himself to death and then they just wiped UOL who tried to save him and then ran it down mid.
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>>148545236
Yeah, I start longsword plus 3 pot. You should probably get a chilly scepter instead of my cold hammer
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Everyone here seems to bitch about a Mordekaiser or Urgot rework but come on... have we forgotten about who REALLY needs one? This guy right here has aged horrendously. His one and only redeeming feature, counter jungling, is rendered totally obsolete in the hyper mobile meta and by other junglers can do the same thing while bring more to the table. He contributes absolutely NOTHING to teams and has the worst ganks in the game. There is no reason to pick him over literally any other jungler.
>that fucking model
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>when you go 16/0/12 but don't get enough cs for s+
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>>148545574
You just play him top
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>>148545002
>Lissfag's reign of terror will never end
>Even when he eventually ragequits the game he'll still be here shitposting
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Best girl.
Best friend.
Best wife.
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>>148545574
He still brings unsurpassed objective control and great utility from the jungle.

His kit isn't fundamentally broken, it's just simple and out of meta. I'm not saying he doesn't need a rework but i'm saying that there is a difference between a kit that just doesn't work and a champion that is in bad spot.

He needs a visual update though
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>>148545521
>memed himself
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>>148545574
Yeah, his job is to make the other jungler as worthless as he is.
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>>148545759
>Ezreal
>Not being a memepick

He's ass.
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>>148545574
"'The point of playing Nunu is making the enemy jungler as useless as you are" > TheOldOne
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>>148545759
Ran into towers 1v5, popped QSS when he realized he fucked up but no CC had landed yet, got stunned and instantly killed.
Team panicked so much that they just died like animals right after.
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>>148545640
>adc/mid keeps taking all the cs while their lane is pushed with a huge wave
>go to take their wave
>they ping you off like crazy and try to take all of that too
>jungle farms your unpressured lane with several camps up

JUST
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>>148545478
Yeah, I thought it would be fun just looking at PBE pics. It wasn't.
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>>148545734
>nunu
>unsurpassed objective control
even cho'gath has better objective control with the 1k smite at level 6.
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I want to go swimming in Lulu.
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Does Lissfag even play League anymore? I think that he stopped a while ago but just continues to shitpost because he's a piece of shit.
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>>148545873
He really doesn't mate.
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>>148545574
REMOVE FUN remove fun
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>panth hits 6
>type "care for panth ganks"
>15 seconds later bot dies from a panth gank
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>>148545953
>nunu walks into dragon with his team
>chogath walks into dragon with his team
>nunu starts to ult
>chogath silences the ult
>nunu can't Q or smite
>chogath takes the dragon
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>>148545734
>>148545793
>>148545849
Having a second smite is good but it doesn't make up for a total lack of presence in ganks or teamfights, the things that actually decide a game.
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>>148546058
>or smite
yes he can
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>>148545887
I want Riven and Zac to go swimming with Lulu too!
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>>148546040
>tf with teleport despite it being 4 second channel now
>he's 0/2
>hits 6
>"watch out TF is 6"
>ends game 14/3
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>>148546079
You have now lost the ability to be taken seriously
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>>148546079
??

If you want superior objective control and utility from your jungler you pick Nunu, which is the reason to pick him.

Just because the current game values different things higher doesn't mean the kit is broken, it just means it's too weak. If you want Nunu to see play just buff him a bit and there you go.

If your definition of champion needing a rework is being top 3 in the role 100 champs constantly need reworks.

But I get your trolling or baiting or what ever.
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>>148545850
Aww. I hoped he built something meme
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>Krepo exposing the prime strategy against Renegades

Based
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Reminder that this represents your average /lolg/ support player
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>>148546106
>Nunu can beat Cho'gath smite + Feast at lvl 6
Uh no, 1K, plus whatever smite is at.
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did i do well my dudes
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>>148546207
>gp hits 6
>type care for gp ult
>15 sec later gp gets a double kill cause bot over committed to diving under a tower
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>>148546406
They had 3 inhibs down and were about to end the game too, did I mention that. And Elder Dragon of course
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I don't actually know how people get out of silver desu
trying to help a friend and these people like refuse to be carried
after we clean sweeped 4 of them and go to elder, our support insists on staying mid to try duel their midlaner
we had a low dps comp, their jungler respawns and manages to come in and steal elder dragon when its at 1.3k with emp q and smite
meanwhile our support is getting some farm mid.
our mid ended like 10/3/10 and jungle was 13/4/13 and they had 1 person with a positive kda.
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>>148546452
traps aren't gay
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>>148546325
>>148546208
are you two fucking idiots? if nunu dies once before 6 he literally loses the game. hell even post nerf tank ekko jungle does everything he does better. nunu is completely fucking useless in every situation except the following
>unwarded bushes their entire team is next to for some reason
>suicide baron steals
it's nearly impossible to die to a nunu gank and if you catch him jungling you can do this magical counterplay tactic that not many people know of
kill him
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>>148546483
>Sona with no boots or sightstone

these are people who actually select "Support" in champion select
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>fervor of battle on Shen

Holy fuck is this fun. People don't expect Shen to scrap with them and actually do damage even outside of spirit blade buff.
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>>148546452
>tfw on green
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>>148546325
How am I trolling? Nunu's kit is clunky and complete ass besides his Q. His lore, model, and VO are painfully outdated. All these things together warrant a rework.
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>>148546656
Ekko doesn't have a single utility spell and his objective controll is weak.

What are you memeing here?
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>>148546483
Whats with that censoring?
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>8 of my last 10 games
>Vi on enemy team

I didn't miss you, fathands. I didn't miss you at all.
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>>148546763
>Ekko doesn't have a single utility spell
C'mon man.
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>>148546819
i dont want you to know that im p_____
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>>148546763
>aoe slow
>aoe stun
>dash
>passive slow
>no utility
here's how you steal baron as nunu
>walk in or flash and pray you dont get ccd
here's how you steal baron as ekko
>w baron
>their entire team is stunned for nearly 3 seconds
>smite baron and walk away unscathed
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I was wukong top and we lost because voli and shen went full tank and kept going after the backline and I couldn't kill them quick enough. I went tanky with sunfire, black cleaver and youmuu being the only items with damage. Should I have went last whisper and infinity edge instead of thornmail and deadman's at that point?
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>>148546819
He's bronze. I don't think he knows any better.
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>want to become a one trick pony because all of my friends did it to climb to diamond
>Not sure what champion to pick

I enjoy alot of them but im not sure which to focus on
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>diamond 5 is literally just plat shitters who got lucky

nice game lolbabs
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>>148546713
The west has internet cafes, slavs have internet slaugherhouses.
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>>148546981
>thornmail against shen and voli
>youmus against shen and voli
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>>148546981

>sunfire
>deadmans
>thornmail

oh shit what the FUCK are you doing nigger?
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>>148547016
The one you are statistically best at.
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>>148547091
>>148547089

What should I have gotten? Everything was fine early on until like 35mins in and I couldn't kill shen and voli fast enough
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IS KINDRED GOOD MID OR TOP? I HATE JUINGLING PLS.
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>>148547189
liandrys wouldve been better than thornmail at that point
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>>148545381
That might not be as far fetched as you think.
Riot bought the>>148545389
company that made Rising Thunder some time ago.
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>>148547016
yasuo
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Is there any teamcomp where Kha'zix or Vi don't fit?
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>>148546730
do q enhanced autos count as abilities that gain an extra stack?
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>>148547246
So I should have went with a full damage build with a randuin to dampen their adc's damage on me at least?
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>>148546113
B̷̛͓̺̦̠̗̟̻̪͍̰̰̫̫̮͟͢A̭̫̜̩̯̮̭͓̠̦̻̟͖̭̙̩̝̹͇͜͡C̸̱̮̻͇͍̖̘̜̠͙̯͉͙͉͖̥̣̖͘K̞͖͙̥͚͉͙̘̗̻̥̀͝ ̴̧̞͔̜̘̱̪͖̼̝̟̣͘͠͡ͅT҉̴̢̢͓̖͉̝̦͙̙̪̫̟͎̳͢H̸̴̞̻̜̠̬̙̦̟̫̀ͅĘ͏̜͕͇͓͍̮̟̖̘͜ ͖̻̰̹̙̼͙͙̲̪̣͚͇́̕͞͝F̡̢͘͝͏̣̳̮̹̝̮͉̞͇͍̯̗͖̣̖̳Ụ̟͔̭̰͓̲͇̼͔̳͖̺͖͓͜ͅC̪͔͚̠͙̝̰̝̬̥̳̘̟̜̱̱̟͝K̷͏͍̺̱̪̩͕̜̖̹͕̘͎̤͈͡ ̨̜̗̜͕̻̟̠͖̲̼̀O̧̘̬̗͚͇̘̫̟̫͈͖̖̳ͅF̴͏̧͕̟̜͍̙̤̼̖̰̤̠̳̥̦̺̻͘͢ͅF́҉̷̧͇͓̺̖͈̙̩̮̣͘ͅ?̧͔̞̗̫̳̗̙̤̫͓̳̪̗̳̜̕͢!̸̵̡̨̣͔͇̗̠̞͈͍̭͕̤͍
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>>148547016
you just have to try them all out until you find one that clicks with you.

dont try to force yourself to be good at a champ your mediocre at.
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>>148547314

Yes.
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>>148547189

this is the training wheels build for people who cant into full damage wu

replace botrk with any item you need, in your case id take titanic hydra
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>>148547016
something you enjoy playing that is not popular so you can be the best X OTP in hte world and have sweet compil about you on youtube and a giant following on reddit.
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Nidalee locked double jungle although he was assigned to mid, and thresh has tp

bets!!!!!!
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>>148547476
>bork wukong
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>>148547508
Just open mid right from the start
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>>148547469
neato
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>>148547537
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>>148547243
Mid

She isnt as good as she once was but you can still out damage the squishies and snowball off of that
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>>148547508
the true diamond experience
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>>148547476
>No ghostblade
>BotRK


There's no way you're higher than silver 5.
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>>148547427
>you just have to try them all out until you find one that clicks with you

>playing since s1
>own all champs
>at least mastery 1 or higher with all of them
>still don't have one that ''clicked''
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>ultimate introduces a micromanaging element that could have meant having the highest skillcap in the game
>ultimate only introduces the element on-kill, making it a win more skill and controlling the ghost is a completely non-essential aspect of playing him or teamfighting

This is the definition of a gimmick and probably the most underwhelming aspect of his kit.
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>>148547772
It's a %HP DoT which can be used in any skirmish, it's fine and is definitely a cool ability.

Also, remember that CertainlyT never got 100% control of the rework. He actually could have done a better job.
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>>148547760
>mastery 1 with all champs
>literally played a champion once and said "THIS IS DUMB"
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>>148547959
CertainlyT apologists need to neck yourselves
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>>148547760
how do you play since s1 without a champion that you like
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>>148547772
>ultimate introduces a micromanaging element that could have meant having the highest skillcap in the game
>ultimate only last until your ally is killed, making it a win more skill and controlling the ghost is a completely non-essential aspect of playing him or teamfighting
>Also has to control 3 ghouls making it a 5 characters champions

Yorick is just a better morde
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>>148547959
>being this much in denial

I bet you main Kalista
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>>148547749

im gold 4 actually
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>>148547959
>He actually could have done a better job

So you're saying he could have made Morde even more cancerous? Good to know.

Here's what I don't understand: in the past Riot said that Morde's ultimate made him difficult to balance, so not only do they keep his ultimate, they give him a new passive on it that allows him to have a dragon ghost?

And the only reason they did so was because, despite what CertainlyTard claimed, they were definitely trying their best to force Morde into the botlane.
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>>148547959
Oh the %HP DoT aspect is amazing, late game it's a 10 second slow that perpetually applies Liandry's and heals you for all damage done while simultaneously charging your shield. Everyone says to Ult the ADC as Morde, but if they've got a tank you can use your ultimate on them to become basically unkillable as you drain 55% of their total health, even more with Liandry's + gunblade.

It's just that the on-kill ghost effect is totally underemphasized when it could have been central to his kit.
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How strong is kassadin right now? He's pretty fun in normals and I just got that comic skin he has from a skin shard.
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>>148547410

"Violence...."

*closes eyes ands and whispers a chant under breath causing sword to extend to its full length and power*


"to end the violence....."

"when you lay dying remember that this was the path you chose"~

*valor's towards you with the intent to kill*
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Is nexus siege up?
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>>148547772
I agree with your points in that his gimmick is poorly designed, but it was probably the best riot could've done given their incompetence at creating an actual pet micro system.
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>>148547959
>He actually could have done a better job.
No shit, Mordekaiser is one of the worst designed champions in the game and is barely better than he was pre-rework. The only champions worse for the game than him are incredibly old champions that haven't been reworked.
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>>148548158
>they were definitely trying to force Morde into the botlane
Nah, the new passive exists literally just to justify an ability called Dragon force on Mordekaiser.
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>>148548235
that's why I don't buy that this new "Kled" champion will have a pet, like some people believe.

Riots pet AI is fucking terrible, It actually feels worse now than it did years ago.
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>>148547303

pls respond
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>>148547984
I said at least mastery 1, most of them are 2 or 3. I also said that I have been playing since season 1, before season 6 there was no champion mastery so you're kinda retarded.

>>148548060
Because my friends all play this game. I don't hate champs I just don't have champions that I really like. I have a small champion pool of like 10 champs that I kinda enjoy but that's all.
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>>148548213
damn... rivens so deep... this lore makes me cum myself tb.h...
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>>148548025
>>148548098
I don't really play any of his champs, they don't fit my playstyle, but they are well designed, just out of tune when released.
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>>148547476
Thanks alot anon, ill try it out
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>>148548218
Yes on EUW
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>>148548235
Honestly, Mordekaiser's "R = right click commanding the ghost" system is extremely simplistic but it's enough, all you'd have to do is give him basic abilities where the ghost's position relative to Mordekaiser himself influences the effectiveness of the ability.
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>>148548025
>>148548098
>>148548158
>yfw CertainlyT is in charge of the Warwick rework

because 4.20 Weedwick wasn't cancerous enough.
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>>148548347
Vi works on literally any team.
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>>148548460
What, kind of like Taric?
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I'm stuck in gold I want to get plat this season because thats where all the good players are and I know I belong there how do I climb elo when my teams are so bad?
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>>148548554
>plat spammer is Karu

Oh, of course
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>>148548352

*uppercutts lower jaw making you bite your tounge mid sentence*

"a fool and his tounge are easily parted, Next time I wont let you off so easy"
>>148548494
CerT makes fun as fuck based champs though. If hes given full control over this rework instead of partial (morde cough cough) Warwick might be part of the new "REPORT MY TEAM GG" club
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>>148548554
Getting a trip and/or suicide work well.
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J4 rework when? Basic as fuck and power-creeped-out champion. Ult is nearly worthless in League of Flash/Jump/Escape/Dash 24/7
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God damn it, is Nasus even good at the moment? Irelia, Fiora, Jax, even Illaoi being in the meta is fucking terrible for him, isn't it?
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>Go for a baron
>Retard starts it early and executes
>enemy team heads straight for us
>we get them low but they ace us
>They try to baron
>It aces them

top fucking kek
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>>148548647
>CertainlyT champs
>Thresh
>Yasuo
>Kalista
>in any way "based"

Viper, my man, kill urself
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>mfw karu
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>>148548540
Basically, only the Mordekaiser player has to control both units simultaneously rather than relying on a teammate coordinating with them.

There's a lot of relatively simple but involved concepts you could run with. You could have a tether form between him and the ghost that damages enemies who pass through it, you could give Mordekaiser a knock back that does bonus damage if the enemy knocked back collides with his ghost etc. Anything to make the ghost itself a more essential aspect of his gameplay and not "you got a kill so here's this thing that makes it easier to get the next kill".
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>>148548668
Only if you know how to wave manipulate and your team knows how to play around you
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>People Unironically defending CertainlyT in this thread
All of his champs have to be consistently nerfed into the fucking ground from release because of fucking retarded passives and abilities. I still question how Kalista's passive even made it threw the planning stages.
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>play kog jungle
>get 3 items
>win all teamfights

uh lolbabs?

I know your ganks aren't great but you can pretty much 1v1 anyone at this point - even the fed enemy jungler if they're not shit
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>>148546079
>total lack of presence in ganks
Uh snowballs?
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>playing Illaoi
>the spirit E spawns gives you gold for killing it
So you can spawn your own enemy champs that you get gold for killing? This seems fundamentally flawed but not impactful enough to ever be changed.
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>>148548657
his rework was already leaked though

>New pass is Demacian standard and it doubles when hes below 50% hp
>W throws his lance. reactivate to follow up and knock up people
> Q is left unchanged
>E is now a charge and if he impacts a person he gets a shield
> R is unchanged but has cooler effects

>>148548735
Kalista was a mistake because they gave her too many abilities that required a support to be up your asshole 24/7. the whole attack hop mechanic wasnt that bad actually.

Yasuo's only problem is windwall and double crit design wise hes great.

Thresh is based what the fuck are you on?Literally only thing busted are his jacked Q hitboxes and latern not being attackable

CertT does make great champs they just need to have thier power brought in lane a bit before release.
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>>148548978
Yeah, Nunu's 2 second long 40% slow is a really good gank. Way better than Gragas, Vi, Hecarim, etc.
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>>148548791
>Mordekaiser's basic abilities become empowered/more intricate with a ghost
>can only get the ghost by scoring a kill
>either your abilities are strong enough to get the kill without a ghost, making them ridiculous with a ghost
>or the abilities are shit, so Morde has no means of getting the kill and spawning his ghost which he needs to get kills

You'd have to make the ghost persistent and not an on-kill effect.
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did i meme hard enough?
btw i was top
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>LCS can't even break 50k viewers

toppest of keks

Watching this bubble burst is so fun to watch.
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uol be like fuck the police, #blm
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>>148548791
Well, I see the ghost as something you use to leverage objectives. It does AA damage only, so it isn't that effective at killing people.

Making the ghost more central to his kit is exactly the opposite of what people want, it would weaken his basic abilities because of it.

>>148548897
Thematically, all his champs are really good, like some of the best.
Kalista was just too strong on release, and her dash passive isn't that bad since it can be affected by both AS slows and MS slows, also the AA animation can't be cancelled.
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why is zed no longer 100% ban
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>>148546938
>nearly 3 seconds
they nerfed the duration to 1.75s champ
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>>148549527
because mages can now get 3k HP 150 armor and outdps him with thier standard rotations.

who needs an assassin who useless after ulting when you can have anivia stroll down lane and insta pop anyone with Q+E
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>>148549527
Because there's too much other cancerous shit to ban for a champ who really only ducks over one role
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>>148549281
>2 seconds

It's a a permaslow m8

Literally spam it
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>>148549407
Every single build in this game hurts my eyes except for maybe MF or Kat.
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>>148549527
riot buffed some cancer so you can't ban what's annoying anymore because you need to spend bans on actually broken champions
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>>148548910
>kog jungle
>gank mid lane with red buff at level 2
>press w, right click
>enemy mid either flashes, dies or does both
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Holy shit Illaoi with health regen quints + dorans shield is so nice. Stops you getting dumpstered lvls 1 - 5
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>>148549163
>Thresh is based
>Thresh aka The Chain Warden aka "why pick literally any other support when I exist"

Every champion designed by CertainlyT had to be nerfed into the shitter to keep them from being pick/ban tier. That's good design to you?
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>>148549849
>levels 1-5
You mean 1-2? Illaoi is great once she hits 3.
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>>148549849
this is the saddest attempt (you)'s yet.
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Ok, this faggot needs new friends. I'd slap the shit out of any of my buddies if they got this stupid fucking haircut.
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>>148549849
>Illaoi
>getting dumpstered lvl 1-5
Uh, what?
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>>148549949
except all that was needed was other supports to be buffed and he was immediately eclipsed.

thresh being good was a product of all other supports besides Alistar (maybe Blitz) being ass. Now that all this healing and shielf buffing crap was added Thresh has gets buffed every other patch and people still dont pick him
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>someone on your team picks your hipster main
>check profile
>0 games with that champ
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>>148549849
>mfw i used to run hp5 quints on old shen for 30 hp5 at level 1
Nice poke, faggots.
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>>148549037
being rewarded for doing well and then the enemy not trying to stop you? stupid fucking game who thought that was a good idea?
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>>148548373
>sr kemal ataturk
never change, tr
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>>148549949
Thresh isn't even meta any more.
Hell, he's just a Jack of all trades support.
Which means he does a lot of things, but not specific things as good as other supports. He doesn't even have a heal.
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>>148550139

Stop looking people up, it really does more harm than good. You can tell who the shitters are by about the 5 min mark anyway.
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>>148550115
You're proving my point.

The fact that Thresh was so cancerous that ALL other supports needed to be buffed in order to even compete with him is not a good thing.
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TEN
E
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BANS
A
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WHEN?
H
E
N
?
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>>148549037
It's not a champ, it's a Revenant.
According to the game at least.
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>Braum doesn't have a special line for Velkoz bypassing his shield and killing him GEOMETRY!
Wtf
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>>148550327
this jack-of-all-trades meme needs to stop.

Do you even know what a jack-of-all-trades is? It's someone who is "okay" at everything, but not a particular master of of anything.

If you think thresh is "just okay" at everything, you're a fucking idiot. Thresh is solid at literally every aspect of being a support. He has good CC, can peel for his adc easily, can save adcs from themselves with his lantern, can seriously assist junglers in ganking with his lantern, has adequate damage as far as supports go, the list goes on.
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>when you go 30/4/5 on irelia mid
Euphoria
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>>148550353
except you know..

Alistar and Janna have always been the literally always good never bad supports not Thresh.
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>>148550139
>someone on enemy team picks your hipster main
>check profile
>0 games with that champ
>you're laning against them
>you pick their hardest counter
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>>148550747
Alistar wasn't always a support, you newfag, and Janna being cancer doesn't make it okay for Thresh to be cancer.

That's like saying you can't complain about Soraka and her constant fucking healing because Janna exists.
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>>148550637
He has no heals, he has a shitty shield, he doesn't have a MS modifier, he can't directly buff his ADC, he can't do a lot of things that some other supports can.

Thresh is not META for a reason.
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>>148550637
>>148550327
>Thresh isn't even meta any more.

He's been the most played support for fucking years now for a reason. Just stop. Janna and Thresh will be viable for the rest of this game's existence.
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>>148550805
>someone picks your hipster main away from you
>extreme worry
>load in
>they have the wrong mastery and summoners
>go to town on them

I swear to god if I see another GotU Morde
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>>148550935
>He has no heals, he has a shitty shield, he doesn't have a MS modifier, he can't directly buff his ADC, he can't do a lot of things that some other supports can.

Leona has none of those things
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>>148550935
>Thresh is not Meta for a reason

You're retarded. As of 6.13 he is THE most played support by a sizable margin

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Support&sortBy=general.playPercent&order=descend
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When do I want to buy a Statikk Shiv?

I've seen people building it on Caitlyn over an RFC sometimes.
She'll have shiv and hurricane.

All that Aoe damage in fights seems kinda scary and then she just vaporizes creep waves.
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>>148550874
>alistar wasnt always a support

LOL
TRIFORCE/AP ALISTAR BROS WW@ XDD

LE SEASON1( the time before meta had even developed properly) MEANS SOMETHING

fuck off nerd clearly youve already cemented that Thresh is unfair and busted and theres nothing anyone can do to change your retarded opinion.
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>>148550935
>>148551078
Thresh is always meta because he shits out utility.

He's just outshined by things like Bard at the moment.
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You guys realize Riot has no idea what they're doing when it comes to balance, right?
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Who the fuck would play Singed he is so autistic it's insane. Is there even a more useless top laner?
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>>148551291
But anon, didn't you know that CertainlyT's champion designs are totally balanced and not unhealthy at all?
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>>148551134
when you want more wave clear
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>>148551252
i remember alistar being a jungler, lvl 2 gank bot and mid were always a freekill and you would rush philo+hearth of gold for the free gold
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>running away at low health
>approaching Baron pit
>run up to Baron pit wall
>flash into the bush
>enemy chasing me flashes into Baron

Best feeling.
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>>148551291
You realize that I don't care, right?
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>>148551434
poke baron and have it kill them for bonus points
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>>148551374
>you would rush philo+hearth of gold for the free gold
>free
>you have to buy 2 items to get something free
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>>148551252
newfag confirmed

I'd bet money you're not even old enough to post here.
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>>148551360
So if my team has none I should buy it?

Okay. I only really build it on Vayne because she has none, sometimes Miss Fortune.
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>>148551291

Daily reminder that Nunu and Warwick have 2(two) damaging abilities.
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What's the point of RFC if Shiv both multitarget AND stronger?
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>put thousands of hours into a single champion
>master all the little tricks to it
>become a god with the champion
>get signed by tsm
>play in lcs
>enemy teams just target ban your one trick every game

defend this
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>>148551651
And Taric only has 1, what's your point?
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>>148551557
Shiv gives more damage than rfc, take it 9 times out of 10 now on anybody for a zeal item if you don't need runaans or pd, which only a handful of champs should be building anyways.
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>>148551374

my point was tha alistar and Janna are objectively better than thresh due to thier consistency in both pick rates and play rates

the fact the thresh has almost never left bot lane
whilst Alistar's kit is so busted he was played viably at any role and even AP mid JANNA was seeing play at somepoint means that he aint all that hes cracked up to be and people just have a massive hate boner for him because of he was in every match last season and CertT was behind him.
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2 decide my new main
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>>148551727
#BEST X IN THE WORLD
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>>148551814
Urgot.
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>>148551804
>not going thresh top

noob
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>>148551291
Actually to be honest right now is one of the more balanced metas we've had. There's some outliers like Hecarim or Sona yeah but they're not absolutely fucking ridiculous like Fiora or Poppy earlier in the year
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>>148551751

They aren't supports anymore tbvh senpai
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>ctrl+F Ryze
>0 results

Failed rework?
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>>148551291
Riot doesn't want to balance the game
if they wanted to, they could do it in a heartbeat.
they want fun dynamic gameplay to keep the players interested throughout the seasons
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POST SNEK
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>>148551892
Weow

First fucking reply. Good job anon.
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>>148549983
>>148549951
Against most shit she's not very good until lvl 6 onwards so she can scale up.
GP just zones you with barrels until you have enough ad to run him down.
Jax's e stops your w from making your tentacles swing.
Playing against Irelia is a mess.
The set up helps with Gnar auto harrass. Kennen and Cass top destroy you and this set up lets you farm
A good Yasuo is the worst melee match up for Illaoi, just dashes around to dodge your e and q. Pokes your with autos and q.

If you guys are talking about non meta top picks then sure Illaoi dumpsters them but in most people play meta.
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>>148551969
He's literally the same but with a teleport. On a side note, that image is the only good thing akashit has ever made.
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LOL

https://youtu.be/qXGmt4ATiTU
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>>148551134
Its only for waveclear and shen memes
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>>148551919
Riot's business model and entire reason for existing don't suggest any desire for balance or good game design.
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>>148551727
Being a 1-trick pony isn't good enough for competitive play.
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>>148551727
>signing up to be a wage slave pro gamer instead of being a autistic 12hr a day streamer and making thousands a month in donations streaming yourself shitstomping everyone on your onetrick


deserved it desu
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>>148547108
>>want to be good with Draven because he's my favorite to have fun with
>>85% win rate with Sivir

Sometimes I just don't know mang.....
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>>148551727
If you're competent on other meta champions having pocket picks you can bust out to carry games forces the enemy team to screw up their ban phase
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>>148552156
I want to swim in Riven
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>>148551892
Can it be something else? I kinda wanted a new experience and I mained urgot in season 4 and for half of season 5
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>>148552378
tryndamere
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>>148552378
No you requested someone to roll you better damn well do it.

Urgot is your main again
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>>148551252
>being this new that he doesn't remember the true terror of Alistar jg

Smh senpai
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>>148552512
>2
rekt
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>>148552512
>>148551892

REKT
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>>148552512
>>148552560
>>148552668
At least I'm ready
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>>148551783
Okay thanks.

>>148551693
sometimes you need the extra range more than the wave clear.
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>>148552550
>>148551532

>any time before S1 is "newfag!"

Are you guys even listening to yourselves?
Do you have any idea how old this game actually is?
Why am I even eating this bait?
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>>148551252
>he forgets the periods in season 2, 3, and 4 when lane or jungle Alistar was pick or ban

just because he can be played support doesn't mean he HAS to be played support
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>>148552019
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>>148552829
are you posting PC Principal because you're triggered?
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>>148552820
baguette ?
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>>148552829
If you don't have the perspective of someone who's been playing this game since it got started you don't understand how bullshit this game can be, and don't really have anything relevant to contribute to the conversation.
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>>148552915
THATS THE FUCKING POINT

THATS WHAT MAKES HIM BETTER THAN THRESH

HE SAID THAT THRESH WAS THE ALWAYS GOOD NEVER BAD SUPPORT

I SAID IT WAS ALISTAR

FUCKING REEEEEEEEE GODDAMN READING COMPREHENSION HOLY SHIT
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>>148553014
Oh no, I'm american. I just switched the language to french because I tried learning french and I'm too lazy to switch it back to english.
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>>148553150
I don't really care about your conversation desu

why are you engaging with some low elo nerd who wants to beat the dead horse that is Thresh?
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>>148553098
>If you don't have the perspective of someone who's been playing this game since it got started, you don't have anything relevant to contribute to the conversation
Bullshit. League as it is now is practically a totally different game compared to how it was back in 2009. My insight on season 6 is just as valid as anyone else playing during season 6. Beta is totally irrelevant at this point and if you bring it up and claim otherwise, you're just trying to be a special snowflake because you're a "le oldfag xd".
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Any tips for playing Vayne? I really like the champion and want to learn her but I don't want to be a >vayne
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>>148553603
>playing Vayne
you already are a >vayne
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>>148553603
Play her top, condemn people into walls, collect free kills
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>>148553720
ebin meme :^)

Now can I get an answer form someone who's older than 16?
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>>148553406
I'm bringing it up because your perspective on what's overpowered is weak as fuck and lame. Needledicked greenhorns like yourself don't understand the concept of being broken or too good so you throw it around like the most irrelevant shit imaginable. Thresh's kit was only unfair when it first came out and had every stat ever imagined while ALSO living in an environment where supports had a zero income. You're right that the game has changed quite a bit, but that also means that Thresh, for however much you might personally hate him, is not unfair.
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>>148553738
>Play her top

the only way to be even more a faggot than a vayne player already is
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easiest S of my life
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>>148554137
>only gumus 2

lmao get on my lvl
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>>148554137
Don't play lulu anymore?
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>>148554217
boxes are serious business

>>148554210
**I kind of want to unintentionally lose when Iam not going for boxes**
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>want to play League
>remember Irelia exists
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>>148546713
>work before you play

Admirable

>sir! I yhave fineeshed 16 chickens.
>DIMITRI, I SAID 17!!! 30 MINUTES OF CUNTER STRACK FOR YEW!!!
>b-but...
>15?!?!
>okaye...
>>
Nothing better than telling your jungler to come bot so we can get drag, then having him go on a tirade about how it's not his job to win our lane, and watching him go die in the enemy jungle for a gromp.
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>>148554379
>want to play league
>remember that other games exist
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