[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #380
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /vg/ - Video Game Generals

Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 248
File: 1468440275221.jpg (732 KB, 2560x1440) Image search: [Google]
1468440275221.jpg
732 KB, 2560x1440
"Sparking the love" Edition

Previous Thread: >>148317308

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn hella gay to rewind time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg

>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg

>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls, Soundtrack/Music & Leaks:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive

>/lisg/ Community Written Fan Fiction:
http://orph.link/story

>Compilation of Fanfics:
http://orph.link/fanfic

>/lisg/ Content Producers:
http://imgur.com/a/DOAKn

>Strawpolls:
http://strawpoll.me/10646187
http://strawpoll.me/10681287
http://strawpoll.me/10684655
http://strawpoll.me/10722128
http://strawpoll.me/10725554
http://strawpoll.me/10740500
http://strawpoll.me/10744398
>>
File: kate.jpg (40 KB, 425x516) Image search: [Google]
kate.jpg
40 KB, 425x516
Be watchful, stand firm in your faith, be courageous, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.
>>
File: 1468020114767.jpg (65 KB, 540x888) Image search: [Google]
1468020114767.jpg
65 KB, 540x888
What did she mean by this?
>>
File: etak.jpg (102 KB, 425x516) Image search: [Google]
etak.jpg
102 KB, 425x516
Walk blindly, doubt everything you stand for, run away, give up. Let all that you do be done in fear.
>>
File: thereisnoneedtobeupset.jpg (78 KB, 500x281) Image search: [Google]
thereisnoneedtobeupset.jpg
78 KB, 500x281
>not giving the general a witty name
>>
>>148469683
>pokemon in my /lesg/
>>
File: maxxx.jpg (132 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
maxxx.jpg
132 KB, 1280x720
>>148469892
Wow really makes you think
>>
File: Pricefield.jpg (79 KB, 802x516) Image search: [Google]
Pricefield.jpg
79 KB, 802x516
>>
>>148470136
Get with the times grandpa
>>148470080
>>/kspg/
>>
>>148469683
Gotta cute em all
>>
File: Alice x Lisa - Choice.jpg (47 KB, 375x500) Image search: [Google]
Alice x Lisa - Choice.jpg
47 KB, 375x500
>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb
>>
Would you sacrifice Kate if it meant saving the town and Chloe?
>>
>>148470080
>Life is Strawpolls
>Lesbians in Ships
>>148471842
http://strawpoll.me/10744398
>>
File: tumblr_nm7bymTJ4O1tp4bt0o1_500.gif (265 KB, 500x500) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_nm7bymTJ4O1tp4bt0o1_500.gif
265 KB, 500x500
>>
>>148471914
Yes 57%
Fuck all of you
>>
>>148471842
*narrows eyes*
>>
File: t3_4sq021.jpg (61 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
t3_4sq021.jpg
61 KB, 1920x1080
>>148471842
>>148471914
Why would you ask this? Choices like these should not exist.

Yes, I would. Chloe Must Live.
>>
>>148471842
fuck off michel, stop engineering terrible scenarios like this
>>
File: 1467161767244.jpg (703 KB, 900x512) Image search: [Google]
1467161767244.jpg
703 KB, 900x512
>>148471842
You know it's the right thing to do.
>>
I now hate you all for sacrificing Kate
>>
File: Kate.png (640 KB, 895x1297) Image search: [Google]
Kate.png
640 KB, 895x1297
>there are people who want to sacrifice Kate
We really don't need more infighting Michel
>>
>>148472575
>>148472724
It's not the same as sacrificing Chloe.
>>
>>148472894
Nigga what, Kate is as important as Chloe.
>>
>>148473141
Kate is *more important than Chloe.
>>
Kate"friends" showing their true faces.
>>
File: 1462925684722.png (547 KB, 747x932) Image search: [Google]
1462925684722.png
547 KB, 747x932
>>148473141
>>148473841
I'm sorry but no she is not.
>>
>>148474443
Okay, what are your arguments then?
>>
So, who all dies if you save Chloe? Does David die?
>>
>>148474592
No one dies. Tragedies are a meme.
>>
File: 14685286695460.jpg (1 MB, 8245x1500) Image search: [Google]
14685286695460.jpg
1 MB, 8245x1500
Reminder to ignore the falseflagging cuck trying to divide us.
>>
>>148474517
There is no discussion to make on the shitty theoretical sacrifice baitcuck
>>
File: m'lady.png (83 KB, 291x330) Image search: [Google]
m'lady.png
83 KB, 291x330
>>148474839
That isn't Daniel's shirt
>>
>>148475206
Indeed it isn't baitcuck, that's a compilation of the concept arts.
>>
>>148474839
>Alyssa's face
Holy shit.
>>
>>148474839
>Stella's new jersey
It's used. binch.
>>
a quick sketch of these girlfriends
>>
This time last year /lesg/ was flipping out because DONTNOD took the weekend off for Bastille Day whilst we were waiting for an episode 4 release date.
RIP people in Nice
>>
>>148477772
Cute!
>>
File: 1405055210038.png (346 KB, 1024x582) Image search: [Google]
1405055210038.png
346 KB, 1024x582
WHAT THE IN FUCK
>be me
>turn on computer
>it's an update episode
>why tho.jpg
>whatever, go about my day
>return 10 minutes later
>update stuck at 22%
>also says Warning: do not restart computer
>have to hard reboot it since this shit usually happens the first time it wants to update
>no choice but to reboot now, do it
>try to hit the power button
>IT WONT FUCKING TURN ON


MICROSOFT YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS I HAVE TO PUT UP WITH YOUR MANDATORY UPDATES - WHICH BY THE WAY HARDLY WORK - AND THANKS TO YOUR SHITTY SOFTWARE MY HARDWARE GOT FUCKING RUINED.


I AM REALLY FUCKING TEMPTED TO SUE SINCE I LOST ALL MY FUCKING SCHOOL WORK, RPGMAKER GAMES, PERSONAL PHOTOS AND OVER 4000+ PICS FROM 4CHAN


DIDNT MEAN TO MAKE THIS A BLOG BUT AS A WARNING TO EVERYONE HERE: UNINSTALL WINDOWS 10!! DO IT NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE IM SO FUCKING PISSED
>>
>>148477772
Disney Max is cute. Cute!
>>
File: 1468448602226.png (153 KB, 900x900) Image search: [Google]
1468448602226.png
153 KB, 900x900
>>
File: tumblr_oab722kypQ1vxjnkfo1_1280.jpg (183 KB, 960x1280) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_oab722kypQ1vxjnkfo1_1280.jpg
183 KB, 960x1280
Alice is a clever girl, unlike those other people in Arcadia Bay. She took notice of the strange weather and decided to take precautions with her pillow fort.
>>
>>148482278
Giggled.
>>
>>148482278
>a day in Kate's life
I hope Alice and Victoria didn't steal Kate's cookies!
>>
>>148482278
>>148483132
I have milk and chocolate cookies right now and I'd let Victoria or Alice steal a few! Are chocolate cookies even ok for bunnies?
>>
>>148484042
Who would bake the best cookies? Kate? Max? Victoria? Rabbits shouldn't eat too much sugar
>>
>>148474839
>Juliet's tits confirmed as superior.
>Also "FRANCK"
>>
>>148484662
Kate would definitely make the best cookies.
>>
File: tumblr_ns9wdeWGpQ1uxcc2zo2_1280.png (444 KB, 540x800) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_ns9wdeWGpQ1uxcc2zo2_1280.png
444 KB, 540x800
>>148484662
Max. She would make a clumsy mess, but have the best outcome. Like magic really. She wouldn't be able to say what makes her's so good.
>>
>>148484662
Chloe, her secret recipe would ensure you'd be feeling euphoric for hours.
>>
File: Alice at breakfast.jpg (25 KB, 500x375) Image search: [Google]
Alice at breakfast.jpg
25 KB, 500x375
>>148484662
Alice would try her best at it.
>>
What is Kate's favorite Pokemon?
>>
File: Pokemon trainer Kate.png (325 KB, 600x675) Image search: [Google]
Pokemon trainer Kate.png
325 KB, 600x675
>>148485662
She tries not to play favourites.
>>
File: Season of Cuddles.jpg (111 KB, 719x1024) Image search: [Google]
Season of Cuddles.jpg
111 KB, 719x1024
>>
File: hmPm2891s8s.jpg (149 KB, 1280x655) Image search: [Google]
hmPm2891s8s.jpg
149 KB, 1280x655
>>
>>148472424
This image and the post with it helped make up a substantial amount of my headcanon
>>
File: love_today_or_die_forever.jpg (54 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
love_today_or_die_forever.jpg
54 KB, 1280x720
>tfw you see the name of Alyssa's romance novel, and it's "Love today or die forever".
>These cucks were mocking you with their shitty message from the start.
>>
>>148489627
What's your headcanon?
>>
File: 1448600498050.png (427 KB, 1280x1280) Image search: [Google]
1448600498050.png
427 KB, 1280x1280
>>148485662
Sabeleye because she's a diamond too.
>>
>accepting any head canon other than Max turning to Chloe at the final choice prompt and saying "I can't make this choice, there's zero evidence it will even work, and a risk it might make the storm worse. If I do go back in time, it'll just be to leave a message for my past self at the start of the week warning her/me about everything, so she can convince as many people as possible to get to safety."
>>
>>148489951
Long and elaborate but a part of it is that Max makes scrapbooks and photo albums of all their trips and adventures.
The gist of it is after the storm they spend a few months with Max's parents (But go back to Arcadia Bay for Rachel's funeral) and then go back to the Bay. Max finishes school at Blackwell when it reopens and Chloe convinces Wells to give her a second chance. Their jobs are Max working at a camera store and Chloe working with Joyce. Once they finish school and save money they start their roadtrip adventure. They get to Paris when Max wins a big photography contest a few years later.
>>
>>148489857
Is that a James Bond book?
>>
>>148491216
No.
>>
File: tumblr_o6oicpyhs11qkxkuxo1_1280.png (254 KB, 724x757) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_o6oicpyhs11qkxkuxo1_1280.png
254 KB, 724x757
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful;it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right.Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
>>
>>148491924
Sounds like one desu.
>>
>>148492267
Choose wisely, anon...
>>
File: ....png (450 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
....png
450 KB, 1920x1080
>>148492664
Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
>>
>>148492267
I don't think Kate would be a trainer for battle, more for the tricks and display aspects.
>>
File: maxresdefault (1).jpg (101 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
maxresdefault (1).jpg
101 KB, 1920x1080
>>148492889
Ok God, I'm coming to see you now. I've been so tired...

Joke's on me, I never even got to that dialogue option

;-;
>>
>>148493459
>>
>>148493631
I don't think I'm familiar with this meme, sorry.
>>
>>148493459
>>148493631
>>148493974
Man I miss Selina poster...
>>
>>148493974
You don't have to be familiar with it to get it, dummy. Kate lands on the couch.
>>
>>148494903
Curse you anon, why won't you just let me die?!

Jk, I love you.
>>
Max is nosey!
>>
>>148493631
Good thinking, Anon! You saved Kate without Max having to sue her powers.
What was up with that "Post is spam" stuff the last few minutes? I was still able to post on /k/ just fine.
>>
File: 1452249160968.png (38 KB, 480x328) Image search: [Google]
1452249160968.png
38 KB, 480x328
Night /lesg/
>>
File: 1450198961540.png (902 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
1450198961540.png
902 KB, 1280x720
>>
>>148496486
Good night anon!
>>
If anyone here uses models, render, etc. you can download Sbel's Rachel model now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKroJM5d00A
>>
>>148497184
I've been trying to think of a nice Rachel render to do this weekend with it. Anyone got any suggestions?
>>
>>148497309
No wait, forget it, I've thought of something. :3
>>
File: IMG_20160703_085612.jpg (17 KB, 214x346) Image search: [Google]
IMG_20160703_085612.jpg
17 KB, 214x346
>>148497309
>>148497414
Shop Albi onto Rachel
>>
File: 1463246489557.png (572 KB, 902x756) Image search: [Google]
1463246489557.png
572 KB, 902x756
>>148497414
TEASE. I hope it's summer-themed!
>>
>>148498137
Feels-themed! :3
>>
>>148498228
Good-feels-themed, right? Right?
>>
File: uAfYCKc.jpg (564 KB, 3840x2160) Image search: [Google]
uAfYCKc.jpg
564 KB, 3840x2160
>>148498696
Of course, anon. Of course.

;)
>>
File: tumblr_nxgwxqaeoZ1t8kawso1_1280.jpg (287 KB, 1280x1280) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_nxgwxqaeoZ1t8kawso1_1280.jpg
287 KB, 1280x1280
>>
File: 1438749488450.png (743 KB, 1000x1000) Image search: [Google]
1438749488450.png
743 KB, 1000x1000
>>148499204
Good.

That emoji though...
>>
File: WHY.png (509 KB, 1000x1321) Image search: [Google]
WHY.png
509 KB, 1000x1321
>>148492664
>>
>>148499204
I'm not sure I like where this is going...
>>
>>148499618
You should know by now that I don't make stuff with sad-feels, anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4yJIai9OlM
>>
File: 1387594927691.png (206 KB, 480x360) Image search: [Google]
1387594927691.png
206 KB, 480x360
>Kate will never EVER be your gf
why live
>>
>>148500058
Ah. I didn't realize it was you. Now I'm excited to see what you come up with.
In general most of the /lisg/ content creators do happy stuff, with a few exceptions.
>>
>>148500058
W- Well, there's a fine line there and I was just making sure!

I know it will be perfectly feel-good as the rest of your stuff.
>>
>>148500478
Calm down, Victoria. Maybe if you be nice and ask her she will say yes.
>>
File: Bukkake.jpg (49 KB, 760x428) Image search: [Google]
Bukkake.jpg
49 KB, 760x428
>>148502064
>She kissed all those boys at the party but not you
>>
>>148502465
That's a cute/sad head canon.

>Victoria heart's Kate, secretly likes her cutesy attitude.
>Hear's Kate is going to go to the Vortex Club party!
>"Squee! :D"
>Wears her best, cutest dress!
>Shows up fashionably late, because of course!!
>Kate is already there ... but she's drunk!
>That's not cute!!!
>She's making out with a bunch of dudes!!
>NOT CUTE KATE!!
>Heart broken Vicky, lashes out in the only way she knows how.
>Takes video of the making out.
>Uses it to bully Kate for hurting her feelings!

>Vicky later sees Nathan escorting Kate out of the party.
>Assumes he's doing it because he knew that Vicky liked Kate, and wanted to make sure she was OK for Vicky's sake.
>"Nathan is a good egg. :)"

VICKY WHY
>>
>>148503905
That's not cute. That's needlessly mean and hypocritical, if anything it proves Vic should be alone if she acted liked that.
In reality she was just doing what she did best: starting drama and shit. She thinks Kate sees herself as superior to others (When she doesn't), sees Kate acting wild and films and exploits it. As if to say "Not so high and mighty now, are you?"
In the end she is the biggest reason that Kate ends up on the roof and regardless of how sorry she is, she has a lot of making up and soul-searching to do. Which by the end of the game she has already started.
>>
>>148504663
No, no, anon. It's that Vicky has a secret crush on Kate!!
>>
File: dreamtime.gif (261 KB, 800x450) Image search: [Google]
dreamtime.gif
261 KB, 800x450
Good night /lesg/!
>>
>>148506193
Sweet dreams, Anon.
>>
>>148506193
Do you think she's having cute dreams about Victoria?
>>
>>148504663
>In the end she is the biggest reason that Kate ends up on the roof
Um, no. Did you just completely forget Jefferson and Nathan's involvement in that incident? And don't try and say that part didn't matter because Kate couldn't remember it. One of the main reasons she felt so hopeless was that she was sure Nathan had done something and he was apparently untouchable as far as the faculty and police were concerned.
>>
File: 1439169675783.png (679 KB, 1748x1198) Image search: [Google]
1439169675783.png
679 KB, 1748x1198
>>148506578
Maybe...
>>
>>148506712
Without Victoria the incident wouldn't have been publicized like it was. Nathan and Jefferson obviously harmed Kate and made her scared/ confused about what happened to her. But without the viral video then Kate would not have been bullied nearly as much or felt abandoned by everyone. People that were at the party would have talked about it; but her parents, aunt, priest, etc. wouldn't have seen it.
So yes, I do blame Victoria for a part of what happened.
>>
Chloe is bae!
>>
>>148507595
It was kind of ridiculous that you had the option to blame David and Jefferson at that point in the game, but not blame Victoria. At that moment the thing Kate's most upset about are the video, and what might have happened to her while sedated. As far as Max knew at that point, Victoria was responsible for one and Nathan for the other.
>>
>>148509462
David did harassed Kate, and Jefferson couldn't give a shit about her even though she's feeling down. Somewhat justified, but still ridiculous that you can't blame Victoria
>>
>>148509784
I still think they played Jefferson just right in that scene between him and Kate in Episode 2.

Before Eps 4/5, it looked like he was being gruff, but was still trying to help her (his "drama queen" lines vs. the "you need to talk to me" lines). From the outsider it seems like he's being a bit of a dick in response to some teenage drama, but that he's otherwise trying to get her to further explain her problems to him.

After Eps 4/5, it's clear that he knows what her problems are/were, but that his goal was to try to run the line between looking reasonably like a teacher, and trying to get her to shut up about it (or plant the idea in the head of anyone listening that it *is* just silly teenage drama).

Similarly with his speech inside the classroom in the following scene. Prior to Eps 4/5 it sounds like a teacher trying to dissuade a group of teenagers from being needlessly mean to each other. After Eps 4/5, it's basically the same thing (the quicker all the drama ends, the better for him), but also with the aim of reducing the severity of any accusation Kate might make ("lol, it's just teenage drama).

From Kate's perspective, he's being a jerk who isn't taking her seriously. From the other student's perspective, he's treating it as any other highschool/teenage drama and showing his disapproval. From Jefferson's perspective, he wants it to all go away as quickly/quietly as possible, but he also doesn't want Kate to feel confident enough to reach other to anyone else (which basically worked; she even described herself as a drama queen).

I think they did all this quite well without playing him too "sweetly" or too "evily". The scene between him and Victoria in Ep3 goes on to reinforce the idea that he's probably not really a bad guy - his "bullying" of Kate was just him being a bit gruff.
>>
>>148509462
That entire scene was a shitshow looking back.
Blame David, the one man who was investigating things and getting on the right track is dismissed and removed from the picture.
Blame Nathan, he's the most obvious choice and is set up to take the fall. But in the end just an accomplice and not the true culprit.
Blame Jefferson, the real criminal evades most of David's ability to watch him on school grounds and is free to act on his plans, since nobody really suspects him of anything more than negligence regarding a student.

There is no winning.

>>148509784
That would have been an interesting option. Not sure how many would have picked it though. Victoria didn't play a part in drugging Kate, she just recorded the effects (Not knowing what was going on). Still an awful thing to do but she wasn't as much of a potential threat as the others.
>>
>>148510734
It seems like his talk with Kate was trying to gauge how much Kate knows and remembers so that he can know how to react. Kate killing herself is one of the best things that can happen to him since it's one of his victims being silenced and everyone will just assume she did it out of shame. The only thing that turned Kate going to the roof against him was Max, having previously spoken to Kate and beginning to piece things together by comparing what happened to Kate and Chloe.
With Victoria he's planning on targeting her, but even when she offers to go with him (Where he could easily pounce) he restrains himself. Because he knows the school is being watched and possibly because he doesn't find it as fun if they're willing (sicko). He even kept his cool when he most likely knows that Max and Chloe have found the Dark Room and he runs into them in the party. He knows what cards he's holding and doesn't panic.

Too bad all the controlled and calm demeanor he displays through the first four episodes is completely done away with to make him comically insane.
>>
>>148511049
>There is no winning.
This is a point I've long whinged about.

The scene makes zero sense.

Not from a narrative perspective - all three parties had an obvious role to play in Kate's situation (even if they weren't all of the same severity) blaming only one is ridiculous.

Nor from a gameplay perspective - if the point was to highlight the three potential villains, (1) David was already pretty much off the list at this point, (2) Jefferson's only crime was being a bit of a jerk to Kate and seemed to actually try to diffuse the bullying in class, so there's no reason to think he's behind anything larger yet, and (3) EVERYTHING points to Nathan - the ordeal in the bathroom in Ep1, Kate literally says it was Nathan who took her to the bright room, etc.

Given that the choice of who you blame makes no significant differences in the future episodes, what was the point? It made no sense otherwise. Did they just feel like they needed a big end-of-episode choice? Did they just want to imply there would be bigger consequences (getting Nathan suspended/expelled, getting Max suspended, getting David fired, etc, all of which did nothing)?

I wish they had just done something a bit more interesting here. No player choice, but a more interesting scene where all three share an appropriate amount of blame. That way you can put a bit more thought into having the characters interact with each other in an interesting way - like the glances between Nathan/Jefferson.
>>
>>148511049
>No matter what you do, Jefferson's plans are furthered
>There was no option to throw the bronze bird at Jefferson's head, then grab the principal's bottle of Johnny Walker, pour it on the bastard and set him on fire.
>>
>>148511756
>Kate killing herself is one of the best things that can happen to him since it's one of his victims being silenced and everyone will just assume she did it out of shame.

Maybe, maybe not.

Jefferson probes Max to see how much Kate has told her - he knows there is a risk that she has given information about the night to other students. He can't know how many students this might be.

We know that Kate told Max about Nathan, and Nathan is THE link between Jefferson and all the Dark Room stuff. A dead Kate leads to an investigation, which inevitably leads to Max telling the police about what Kate said about Nathan (backed up by other people at the party seeing Kate leave with Nathan). Nathan's room probably gets searched (Chloe picture - which Chloe could testify for, burner phone with links to known drug dealer, etc?), and so on. Even if none of this leads to the Dark Room and/or Jefferson's involvement, having Nathan get investigated like this is extremely problematic for Jefferson. And this is all without the David Madsen wild card - we know he also has a bunch of information about a bunch of people involved, and he'd surely give this information to the police.

On the other hand, if nobody believes that any of Kate's stuff is of any importance, everything remains here-say, nobody bothers to properly investigate Nathan (except beyond a he-said/she-said type situation).

Kate's death escalates things a lot more than they probably would otherwise. Further, while Jefferson doesn't seem too worried about killing people if he *has* to, it also doesn't seem like he really *wants* anyone to die either. A minor point, but I can't imagine his ideal end goal is for Kate to end up dead.

>>148511756
>Too bad all the controlled and calm demeanor he displays through the first four episodes is completely done away with to make him comically insane.

Yep, for sure.
>>
>>148512701
That's the new game plus option.
Hell you could end it like this
>Save Chloe
>Leave class and go to parking lot
>Knock on Frank's RV door that's parked outside
>"Hi, I'm Max. Chloe's friend. Just want to let you know that Mark Jefferson and Nathan Prescott killed Rachel Amber. Jefferson's in the school now and his car is parked over there if you want to wait."
>Make phone call to police to search the Junkyard and under the barn.
>Go wait for Chloe to show up with truck
>>
>>148511756
Well I mean why would he continue to put up a front when Max already knows everything? Might as well let it all hang out. It does come across as silly, but really the urge to make oneself understood is quite normal.
>>
>>148513282
Not the same anon, but I pretty much agree with what they were saying.

I don't think it's so much an issue of "letting it all hang out" so much as it is an issue of "he was a cool character before, it's a shame to see him end up like a bit of a cartoon character". It would have been nicer if he was played a bit more subtly in the Dark Room - you can do "let it all hang out" without necessarily having him go loopy.

Captcha = Mountains ;-;
>>
>>148513282
I understand that. Jefferson taking off a mask and displaying all his villainous traits and intentions to someone he believes is soon to be dead. But that stuff should be hinted at somewhere, and with Jefferson it is not. He's a very calm man for 4/5ths of the game and then in the final part he suddenly reveals he's batshit insane with no prior evidence. It doesn't appear threatening, it just appears silly.

If you're familiar with him, Light Yagami was a good example of what you're proposing. He was crazy but he hid it. For the most part. There were times where he let his disturbed side show because he got too angry or pressured, but in the end when he thought he was taking the victory he let it all out. That was scary because the viewer knew that aspect of him existed and now it's fully revealed to all.
>>
File: WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS MAX.jpg (8 KB, 226x225) Image search: [Google]
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS MAX.jpg
8 KB, 226x225
>>148513989
The very first scene that it's revealed jefferson is the bad guy I literally let out a "WAAAT" it was so out of place. I though max was just high and hallucinating. Really the only thing that points toward him in the earlier episodes is when he's talking about framing the students in a dark corner in a moment of desperation. Outside of that, the whole twist and subsequent character change is a total u fuckin wot m8 moment.
>>
>>148514463
And let's be honest, hardly anyone will be paying attention to that part in episode 1, we're all too busy trying to figure the controls out and looking at items on our table!
>>
>>148514463
I wasn't surprised too much. Once I saw the whole professional photo setup in the Dark Room and equipment similar to what the school used (I believe Max even comments on this), I had an idea that Jefferson was involved. A student wouldn't be able to just take stuff from the classroom and Nathan would never have created such an elaborate setup.
The reveal in the junkyard just made me go "Okay Jefferson's involved. So who's he working for? Sean?"
Looking back, the quote at the start of the game and Jefferson's style of photography that you scan see in the classroom and around the campus make it incredibly obvious.
>>
File: lector.png (1 MB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
lector.png
1 MB, 1920x1080
>>148514463
Just keep him calm and in control in the dark room. In many ways, that's more frightening than some raving lunatic.
>>
>>148515136
This.

I like the idea of keeping him a bit more "normal" in the Dark Room. It's not just that he's an obvious lunatic, it's that he's seems to otherwise be a somewhat normal person who is doing horrible things, driven by the passion he has for his "art".

Especially given that he's somebody who Max looks up to and wants to be like someday. It's easy, following Episode 5, for Max to just be like "well he was just proper insane, I'll never go like that". It's another thing entirely if they're much more similar, and are both simply driven by their artistic passions.

Of course, it's still a massive stretch to try to go the route of "Max might turn out like this", so this probably isn't a useful route to go in critiquing Ep5 Jefferson. But I still think it would be better if Max/Jefferson could better relate while trapped in the Dark Room together, rather than it just being "Jefferson is insane!"
>>
>>148515136
Agreed. if you've done the calm and in control thing that far through the game (Without giving any evidence to suggest they have some underlying madness) then you should just keep it that way.
>>
>>148513609
>>148515401
Idk, I enjoy the idea of a person so dedicated to their art that they kill for it, unoriginal as it may be. As for the silliness, I can see it, but who's to say where exactly the line between passion and insanity lies?

Plus, many real-life serial killers managed to stay hidden for a good long time, and I doubt they acted sane during the act itself.
>>
File: hotgurls.gif (1 MB, 497x280) Image search: [Google]
hotgurls.gif
1 MB, 497x280
>>148469683
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget
>>
>>148515401
>tfw they actually teased Max as wanting to photograph Kate while she was morbidly depressed in the journal.

>They didn't do anything with this further, even though it would have contextualised Jefferson's obsession and made it far more relevant to Max's core story.

>It was just another aborted plot point.
>>
>>148515614
>As for the silliness, I can see it, but who's to say where exactly the line between passion and insanity lies?
I could have seen it working, if they had pushed Max's photography a bit more on the "she'll do anything for the shot" direction. Like, maybe if there was an option to take a picture of Kate while she was up on the roof? Or a a picture of Chloe with the train coming down the tracks towards her (she can just rewind, right, no harm?) That might still be a bit on the extreme/silly part, but it might at least draw a stronger connection between Jefferson doing whatever it takes to get HIS shots, and Max doing what it takes for her own.
>>
>>148515715
That could have fit in during the nightmare. Another one of Max's fears being that since she idolized Jefferson for a long time that she may go down a similar route. But obviously not as extreme where she's hurting people. More that she would rather document someone in pain instead of helping them and losing the photo opportunity.
Even though like all her other fears during that dream they would quickly be dismissed once she actually reflects on how she's acted throughout the week since she's been nothing but helpful a majority of the time when others were just watching.
>>
>>148515008
>the whole professional photo setup in the Dark Room and equipment similar to what the school used
At a bare minimum all that really suggests is the prescotts spend a ton of money on the shcool and their son; both of which are constantly made very clear to the player. Nathan is also the only one that appears genuinely unhinged and willing to commit both terrible and violent acts.

>>148515136
It also makes the idea of manipulating him into giving Max opportunities to use her power more daunting. Once it becomes very apparent he's a nutjob with delusions of artistic grandeur that desperately wants to show the art he never can to the world it just feels like leading a dog with treats. Praise his work and he does whatever you ask. Like when you ask him to take one more picture despite him telling you he's going to murder you. WHO THE FUCK WOULD SAY THAT!?
>>
>>148515789
Max can't keep photos from rewinds, aside from the optional photos which don't really exist for the sake of the game's plot.
Otherwise she would have photos of things that never happened. Max's power has some level of awareness and prevents images of undone events from being preserved, as well as keeping Max from death since time freezes when she's in mortal danger and allows her to rewind.
Even then it wouldn't make sense for Max to take pictures of her friends getting hurt. She's not like that at all and the one time she does it with Kate and David she is regretful immediately after it happened. It would just be shoehorning in some "Max can be just as evil!" schlock.
>>
>>148516153
>At a bare minimum all that really suggests is the prescotts spend a ton of money on the shcool and their son; both of which are constantly made very clear to the player. Nathan is also the only one that appears genuinely unhinged and willing to commit both terrible and violent acts.
I've seen a few Let's Players who have interpreted all the equipment in the Dark Room as "there must be other people involved, this is too much for just one person!" But I don't think I've seen anyone make the leap specifically to Jefferson.

Otherwise, I think your analysis is spot on. We're told numerous times through the game that the Prescott's are simply loaded and willing to spend a lot on Nathan; and we're told numerous times that Nathan is really into photography. There's no good reason to assume that Jefferson might be involved based simply on the equipment in the Dark Room.
>>
File: disneyland-castle .jpg (410 KB, 677x554) Image search: [Google]
disneyland-castle .jpg
410 KB, 677x554
>yfw you'll never get a chance to visit Disneyland with Jefferson
>>
>>148516153
Nathan is an erratic and unstable individual so I would high doubt his ability to set up an entire room and use it in such an organized fashion. We see Nathan's photography when we see the picture of Chloe in his room. It's sloppy and unplanned. Plus he's in some of the photos with Rachel where he clearly did not take them.
Nathan is capable of violence and we see it- we see how impulsive and harsh it is. In the bathroom with Chloe, when he attacks Max, and when he pulls the gun on Warren. It's nothing like we see in the Dark Room where things are clearly planned.
>>
>>148516376
>Max can't keep photos from rewinds, aside from the optional photos which don't really exist for the sake of the game's plot.

I think you could argue either way on this, it's not really clear how it all works (though I'm also on the side of "the time travel rules work backwards to try to keep some internal consistency when timelines are changed" - my favourite example being when you rewind after eating food, to see the same plate of food being brought to you half-eaten).

But the general idea still works. Max doesn't have to rewind to keep those photographs, she just has to be able to rewind to make sure the full sequence of events can be done safely. She can snap a picture of Chloe with the train, then run off to solve the train-stopping puzzle. If she fails at any of the later stuff, she can rewind back to after she took the photo, and keep working at saving Chloe.

The added bonus here is that Chloe might be pissed at Max for endanger her. But at this point, she knows about Max's powers ... so it COULD perhaps be forgivable? This is the same Chloe who held a gun to Max's face, so who is she to complain?

Otherwise, yeah, I agree about the Kate picture especially. It would be a little cheesy to see her take a pic given that moments earlier (when she entered the courtyard) she had seen her jump. Still, I could see them mayyyybe being able to justify it when she first got up to the room - snap a picture before time unfroze again? Probs too far, given she was already straining to keep time still.

I like the idea overall, it's just trying to find a good way to implement it that doesn't make Max look TOO insane/evil.
>>
>>148516856
>my favourite example being when you rewind after eating food, to see the same plate of food being brought to you half-eaten
Haha I thought I was the only one that did that.
>>
>>148516778
>Nathan is an erratic and unstable individual so I would high doubt his ability to set up an entire room and use it in such an organized fashion.
But that's the point - nobody necessarily needs to assume he did it all himself. It's the assumption that it was *Jefferson* who was helping it out that we're talking about.

>We see Nathan's photography when we see the picture of Chloe in his room. It's sloppy and unplanned.
But that's because it WAS literally sloppy and unplanned. He took a chance with Chloe, it wasn't planned like the other girls. She's laying on the floor of his room, drugged up on whatever he had at hand. Not properly drugged out and posed in a studio, photographed with proper lighting/equipment. It's not even clear that the Chloe photo WAS supposed to be artistic, it might have just been a quick snapshot for fun.

We've seen other examples of Nathan's work, and Max says it's really good. The style mimics what we saw in the Dark Room. Aside from Nathan being in some of the pictures (which plenty of people just assumed meant he used a tripod), there's no reason to assume that someone else was taking the pictures.
>>
It should probably be a poll to take stock of how many people thought that Jefferson was the mastermind, an accomplice, or not involved at all.

Same for other characters because during the game's run there were theories about Sean Prescott, Wells, Frank, Stella, and others being involved.

What many thought was an elaborate conspiracy tuned out to be one crazy guy manipulating a crazy kid.
>>
>>148517593
>It should probably be a poll to take stock of how many people thought that Jefferson was the mastermind, an accomplice, or not involved at all.
It wouldn't work very well here, we knew Jefferson was the mastermind fairly early on due to various leaks. We were openly discussing it well in advance of Episode 4. I'm not sure how many folks are newer than that era, but I assume there's still a fair number of us (and those in the wider community who were actively following the game at the time) who were pre-spoiled.
>>
>>148516856
> She can snap a picture of Chloe with the train, then run off to solve the train-stopping puzzle. If she fails at any of the later stuff, she can rewind back to after she took the photo, and keep working at saving Chloe.

I never thought I would say this is but it's way more retarded than game's time travel mechanics desu. It could've worked if you want to make her psychopath, who's sick from the brain, tho.

>The added bonus here is that Chloe might be pissed at Max for endanger her. But at this point, she knows about Max's powers ... so it COULD perhaps be forgivable? This is the same Chloe who held a gun to Max's face, so who is she to complain?

Also that gun wasn't even loaded at that time, just saying.
>>
Was the 日本 DLC ever been uploaded? Or the PS3 release?
>>
>>148517820
>I never thought I would say this is but it's way more retarded than game's time travel mechanics desu. It could've worked if you want to make her psychopath, who's sick from the brain, tho.
Like I said, it's just a general idea. There's a bunch of different ways you could implement the idea without making Max look too extreme. Hell, even just have Max internally state after the fact "wow, that would have made for a really cool shot tho".

>Also that gun wasn't even loaded at that time, just saying.
Always treat a gun like it's loaded. Pointing it in your best friend's face is a fucking shitty thing to do.
>>
File: 1467771374233.jpg (125 KB, 1280x885) Image search: [Google]
1467771374233.jpg
125 KB, 1280x885
Goodnight, /lisg/. A cutepost to before bed.
Just remember that for all the awful stuff they went through, in the end they will overcome it and be fine. Same for Kate, Victoria, etc.
>>
>>148518119
you are joking right?
>>
>>148518251
About which part? About trying to find a way to push Max's photography in a direction that might make her relate more to Jefferson's Dark Room stuff; or about not being a cunt with a firearm?
>>
File: maxresdefault (2).jpg (73 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
maxresdefault (2).jpg
73 KB, 1280x720
>>148518217
>Kate, Victoria, etc.

DEAD. ALL DEAD.
>>
>>148518119
>Hell, even just have Max internally state after the fact "wow, that would have made for a really cool shot tho".

You're talking about Max mate not some psycho. We're talking about the girl who doesn't give a damn about wtf is going on in universe and only focused on saving that girl's life without an hesitation.

>Always treat a gun like it's loaded. Pointing it in your best friend's face is a fucking shitty thing to do.

If it was loaded yeah it'd but:

>unload the gun
>make sure it is unloaded
>point it in your bff's face to make a joke and don't even pull the trigger
>>
File: Queen Bitch.png (550 KB, 663x913) Image search: [Google]
Queen Bitch.png
550 KB, 663x913
>>148518767
Reminder that you're still a faggot
>>
>>148518767
Why even bring this up? All the posts recently have been fine, you don't need to start a fight where there isn't one.
>>
>>148518448
Mychel pls.
>>
>>148518838
yeah sure
>>
>>148518547
>You're talking about Max mate not some psycho. We're talking about the girl who doesn't give a damn about wtf is going on in universe and only focused on saving that girl's life without an hesitation.
Right. And you could have her totally focus on trying to save Chloe during that scene ... and afterwards have her say "still, would have made for a neat shot".

Hell, Max already comments elsewhere in the game about how Kate's sullen state would make for a good shot. That's going in the same direction I'm suggesting, but nobody assumes that line made her into a psycho.

>point it in your bff's face to make a joke and don't even pull the trigger
Is still a massive cunt move. I hope you don't own any firearms.
>>
File: lookwhatdidshesayaboutkate.png (57 KB, 719x149) Image search: [Google]
lookwhatdidshesayaboutkate.png
57 KB, 719x149
>>148519396
>Hell, Max already comments elsewhere in the game about how Kate's sullen state would make for a good shot. That's going in the same direction I'm suggesting, but nobody assumes that line made her into a psycho.

Yeah I remember that we were making fun of that journal entry, it was just like copy pasta of Jefferson's words since she was modelizing her teacher. But there's a difference between saying these to someone who almost died or who was just sitting there. So that's why I said It would be retarded and psychopathic if you have her say 'oh wow she was nearly dying. shit it would have made for a neat shot'

>Is still a massive cunt move. I hope you don't own any firearms.

I'm not saying playing with guns is good thing, but I don't think that it's massive cunt move if you know that it's unloaded. I mean you're talking like she wanted to shoot Max or something. :D
>>
File: maxresdefault (13).jpg (248 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
maxresdefault (13).jpg
248 KB, 1920x1080
>>148520236
>shit it would have made for a neat shot'
I don't think it's necessarily psychopathic to say that it *would* have made for a cool shot. I mean, it *would* have (which is also why it was literally used in the advertising for the episode) right?

But like I said, I'm not making any hard and fast arguments either way. I'm saying that I like this sort of angle, and it would have been nice if it had been integrated *somehow* into the game more. It doesn't need to include Max having orgasims about potential photographs of her friends in dangerous situations.

>but I don't think that it's massive cunt move if you know that it's unloaded.
I strongly disagree.
>>
>>148519475
Not him but since when giving a warning about baitposters became wrong in /lisg anon ?
>>
File: 1466069216021.png (196 KB, 374x374) Image search: [Google]
1466069216021.png
196 KB, 374x374
>>148520557
>it isn't psychopathic thing to say it would have made a cool shot if you took someone's photo while he/she was dying (it would have made a cool shot especially if the train crushes her/him )
>but it's massive cunt move if you point a gun without pulling the trigger (which's also unloaded and you aware of that) someone to make fun of him/her

Just another normal day in /lisg
>>
>>148521583
>it isn't psychopathic thing to say it would have made a cool shot if you took someone's photo while he/she was dying
Wait, what? Who's arguing that? I never said anything about taking pictures of anyone while dying, nor even when wounded. The two examples I mentioned were Chloe on the train tracks with the train in the distance - with the expressed assumption that Max KNEW she could rewind at any point; and an image of Kate standing up on the roof while time was paused (ie. before she was even falling). I'll grant you that they're still pretty morbid - especially the latter as Max doesn't have full control over her powers during that scene - but they're not situations in which Max is responsible for anything that is happening, she's reacting to things, not causing them herself. I even agreed that Max's actually photographing these scenes would be a bit too far, but I still don't see anything wrong with her thinking that they *would* have made excellent, emotive, dynamic, [buzzwords] photographs.

>but it's massive cunt move if you point a gun without pulling the trigger (which's also unloaded and you aware of that)
Yes, it is. This really isn't even a debate, it's common sense to always treat a firearm as if it were loaded. It's a dick move regardless, given that MAX doesn't know it's not loaded.

Now if Max was deliberately making Chloe lay on the train tracks to make sure she'd stuck so she could take the picture ... only to later be all like "relax, dudeeee, I could always rewind to save you, *I* knew you were never actually in danger hue hue hue", maybe the comparisons would be a bit more apt. Extreme, but more comparable than her merely saying AFTER THE FACT that something might have made for an interesting photograph.
>>
File: storm summoner.jpg (341 KB, 1077x975) Image search: [Google]
storm summoner.jpg
341 KB, 1077x975
>>148469683
>daily reminder that it's confirmed that the blue butterfly is storm summoner (the harbinger of disaster) This means, it became clear that the storm's still coming in Bay ending
>>
>>148522348
To be honest, I'd prefer this to be the case. Given that the "canon" explanation for the storm doesn't really make any sense, it would be kinda nice to know that we had a false ending, and that there's a deeper, more interesting story going on behind the scenes.

We don't really know whether Max lost her powers or not, we never see her try to reverse time again after the final decision. Arguably she wouldn't even want to try, given that she might be worried that doing so might cause all the same shit to start over again.

But then again, what the frick do I know?
>>
>>148522348
Daily reminder that chloe literally is the blue butterfly
>>
>>148522808
>Chloe transforms into the blue butterfly
>Flies around for a bit, lands on a park bench
>Max comes along, doesn't watch what she's doing, and crushes Butterfly Chloe with her butt
>The closest Chloe gets to dat ass
>>
>>148522253
My point is still valid about that gun issue.

Also you sound like you want to create a character sicker than Jefferson also with time-travel powers. Even those psycho français didn't go too far like this.
>>
>>148482278
What video is this from?
>>
File: 1467458450674.jpg (32 KB, 640x480) Image search: [Google]
1467458450674.jpg
32 KB, 640x480
>>148522808
>implying the blue butterfly which we had seen in the bathroom before all of these events, was Chloe (while she was alive)
>implying the blue butterfly which we saw in funeral is Chloe while it wasn't even transparent (like transparent/spiritual doe in junkyard *Rachel*)

Mari pls. even Dontnod admitted it
>>
>>148523070
>Also you sound like you want to create a character sicker than Jefferson also with time-travel powers.
You're just trolling at this point, right?
>>
>>148523425
I was about to ask you the same thing
>>
>>148497184
No.
No no no no no no.
>>
>>148523357
Rachel was a doe tho and does are max's spirit animals, and I don't know where you live, but over here in my area all spirits I ever see are sort of transparent. The chloe butterfly wasn't transparent because butterflies aren't max's spirit animals, easy as that. Since chloe was pre-reborn as the butterfly, the storm was probably reborn as something else as well. Probably the future vortex club I guess
>>
Alright anons, who is the best character from the girl dorm aside from the main ones? (Max, Kate, Victoria)
Who is the best male character in general (aside from Warren, David, William, Jefferson)
>>
>>148517929
Does it replace マーク with 触手?
>>
>>148524897
>Rachel was a doe tho and does are max's spirit animals
>The chloe butterfly wasn't transparent because butterflies aren't max's spirit animals, easy as that
>Since chloe was pre-reborn as the butterfly, the storm was probably reborn as something else as well. Probably the future vortex club I guess

Keep going. I liked your imagination
>>
File: 1468401903619.jpg (52 KB, 964x844) Image search: [Google]
1468401903619.jpg
52 KB, 964x844
>>148524897
>I don't know where you live, but over here in my area all spirits I ever see are sort of transparent. The chloe butterfly wasn't transparent because butterflies aren't max's spirit animals, easy as that. Since chloe was pre-reborn as the butterfly, the storm was probably reborn as something else as well. Probably the future vortex club I guess

what can i say? even developers,all anons here couldn't explain this mystery since oct 22. you're genius.
>>
>>148525109
Juliet. Anyone who can lock someone in their own room from the outside is amazing.
>>
>>148522253
>''hey Kate is standing on the roof, she's gon kill herself''
>but wait. this would have made a neat shot tho. i mean look at her face she's so cool when she's depressed. hmmm
> fuck that. i can always rewind right? so.... fiiiiirst lemme take a selfie
>...
>''hey my gf is stuck on the train tracks and train's coming''
>but wait. this would have made a neat shot i mean look at her face. she looks so adorable when she's about to die. hmmm
>fuck that. i can always rewind right? so... fiiirst lemme take a selfie
>...
>>
>>148524897
Dontnod made it clear that the spiritual doe in junkyard (ep2 and ep4) is linked to Rachel and she was guiding them. so being transparent doesn't have anything to do with being Max's spirit animal or something. it's transparent because it represents someone else's actual spirit.

> Since chloe was pre-reborn as the butterfly, the storm was probably reborn as something else as well. Probably the future vortex club I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW4tY8mQ_1o
>>
>28 posters
>page 10
>>
>>148527037
That's what they want you to think... can't believe people are THIS delusional
>>
File: f9w7U.gif (551 KB, 552x355) Image search: [Google]
f9w7U.gif
551 KB, 552x355
>>148524897
>The chloe butterfly wasn't transparent because butterflies aren't max's spirit animals, easy as that.

this is the most logical explanation I've ever heard.
you should join a youtube network and make theories along with Mari, seriously
>>
>>148504663
>In the end she is the biggest reason that Kate ends up on the roof and regardless of how sorry she is, she has a lot of making up and soul-searching to do. Which by the end of the game she has already started.
Seeing as her house is probably splinters at the end of the game she'll have a lot of spare time for soul searching.
>>
File: 302045 .webm (3 MB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
302045 .webm
3 MB, 1280x720
>>148529396
>>
Chloe stinks!
>>
File: 1438680687191.png (120 KB, 318x479) Image search: [Google]
1438680687191.png
120 KB, 318x479
>>148533295
That is not true! She smells great!
>>
File: 1468507485653.png (233 KB, 500x544) Image search: [Google]
1468507485653.png
233 KB, 500x544
KATE A QT!
>>
Kate stinks!
>>
Max stinks!
>>
File: 1468496483421.jpg (633 KB, 1280x1280) Image search: [Google]
1468496483421.jpg
633 KB, 1280x1280
>>148533473
SHE DOES NOT!
>>
>>148471842
>>148471914
>http://strawpoll.me/10744398
Only 15 people would do the right thing?
>>
>>148535432
most simply refuse to play your silly games michel!
>>
File: 1468451820186.jpg (14 KB, 437x501) Image search: [Google]
1468451820186.jpg
14 KB, 437x501
Fuck this game it's soulcrushing. I always hated those kinds of shit "muh feels" games but decided to play it (mostly for fap reasons) and I'm fucking destroyed.
>tfw you don't have childhood friends who always got your back
I realised how fucking alone I am. And I'm mad about it
>>
>>148538569
You're not alone in the general anon
>>
File: tumblr_nw0c97l95i1ud3ku3o1_1280.jpg (612 KB, 1200x800) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_nw0c97l95i1ud3ku3o1_1280.jpg
612 KB, 1200x800
>>
>>148538569
We've always got your back.
>>
>>148507595
>Without Victoria the incident wouldn't have been publicized like it was
We actually don't know whether she took the video. All we have as far as her "spreading" it is the link on the mirror... which we can erase and at which point her video was already all over school. We don't even have any evidence of relentless bullying from Victoria. We have one remark in class and the bathroom incident. Which are, frankly, pretty tame in terms of what bullying can look like. And in the dormyard for example, she simply ignores her.

Nathan presumably drugged her on the party. He is mainly to blame for everything that happens to Kate. There's even strong reason to believe he initiated her abduction without Jefferson's involvement. Victoria - as Max even states herself - is represenative of what harm jumping ignorantly to assumptions and going with the general crowd can do to a person. She's not painted as the person that drove Kate onto the roof, it's more a sense of "all of Blackwell should have cared more and really thought about what they were doing" - Victoria being the characterization of that notion, later obviously realizing how wrong she was and hating herself for it.

>>148512729
>A minor point
I don't even think this is a minor point. Between his behaviour in that Kate conversation and his comments in the DR, I can't help but feel that Jefferson truly did feel bad for her on a level and truly never did want to hurt people. Whether that's humanity or some psychopathic perfectionism, I think they dropped the ball hard when he went Casual Cowboy mode. He should have been at least pissed the fuck off that he had to kill people there, if not going into desperate ramblings about how "everything will be ok, I can still do this!". Not least because it is only with insanity that his ideas of scapegoating Nathan are at all reasonable.
>>
>>148534108
no one can argue this
>>
>>148538569
I've always got your back anon, hmu if you want to <3
>>
File: JjzjZ8l.png (38 KB, 517x476) Image search: [Google]
JjzjZ8l.png
38 KB, 517x476
>>148538569
> I'm fucking destroyed.

That was me after the final episode. It hit me like a ton of bricks; I felt angry, sad and depressed at the same time... Never even would have guessed that I could harbor hate towards for some ginger haired french guy and get easily triggered whenever I hear that word imagination:)
>>
File: SIN.gif (3 MB, 600x961) Image search: [Google]
SIN.gif
3 MB, 600x961
>>148541151
>yfw you realize anons are flirting with each other
>>
File: 1468451449130.jpg (210 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
1468451449130.jpg
210 KB, 1920x1080
>>148538569
If it helps, people like that (really good long-term friends) are exceedingly rare IRL. You may be alone, but you aren't alone in being alone. And hey, you'll always have Max and Chloe.
>>
>>148543584
>>148522253
I see what you are trying to argue, and I agree that drawing a closer connection between Jefferson's obsession with art and Max having idolized him, and exploring that connection in the DR/Nightmare, would have made for a good narrative theme - having Max realize she is not at all like him. But I do think that specific "always take the shot" moment is taking it too far. Like, if Max actually thought a photo of her loved friend in death terror and confusion as to why the fuck Max would take the photo would make for a "good shot", in my mind she already very much is in Jefferson territory, and a remark like that would then actually make me worried about a future where she could turn Jefferson-mode to a degree after her success is over/illusions of the art world corrupted/whatever.

There are other photo ops they could have drawn that connection with, the train is too extreme. Max wouldn't be able to think that.
>>
>>148523070
>My point is still valid about that gun issue.
Nah. He's right, pointing a gun at someone for fun is a major dick/cunt move. Always.
>>
>>148522253
>This really isn't even a debate, it's common sense to always treat a firearm as if it were loaded.

Only if you ''aren't'' exactly sure about if it's loaded or not (esp. if you pull the trigger at that situation)

>It's a dick move regardless, given that MAX doesn't know it's not loaded.

Well since that was the point of the joke: to scare/surprise her obviously. Playing with guns is dangerous I agree. But my point is if she pointed that gun while she had no idea about if it was loaded or not and risked her life then yeah it'd be a dick move. >>148544385
>>
>>148545503
I don't what are you trying to imply here but agree the fact that Chloe's behaviour stupid, childish in there. But she was know that/sure about it wasn't loaded (probably checked it after she stole it from David) That was the point. Hell, she didn't even pull the trigger.
>>
>>148545503
calm down, David
>>
>>148546276
Doesn't matter. I don't know about Murica but here in the Civilized world guns are treated as if they are loaded all the time. If you are not willing to do all that, the least you should do is not to go around pointing it at people you care about. I believe people who have never even touched a gun know this.
>>
>>148545503
I agree. I love Chloe and that's why I felt saddened when I saw her with the gun, she was not mature enough for it. Shown with how she points it at Max after Max is already scared from seeing Nathan pull a gun.

Chloe likes the appeal of it: the power and sexiness of it. Something she sees as the ultimate "Nobody can hurt me now". She takes it for her own defense (Against Nathan and others) which is understandable, but she does it in an incredibly stupid way since she steals it.
It's another impulsive move by Chloe where she does something very serious without even considering the consequences.
Not just safety wise, but also how she stole it and that can land her in deep shit if it's reported/found, or what happens if she pulls it and someone steals it/ pulls their own to use against her.

It shows how childish her thought process was and how little she trusts David in that time. That she knows he works at Blackwell and could take some action, but doesn't tell him a thing. It also shows how much David is willing to slide for Chloe, another coverup or ignoring of crimes to keep her out of official trouble with the police.
>>
>>148546276
I am trying to imply what she did was a major cunt move as the other anon argued.
>>
File: 1464432428608.png (142 KB, 500x484) Image search: [Google]
1464432428608.png
142 KB, 500x484
>>148545896
>>
File: 1465569616705.png (520 KB, 1000x1000) Image search: [Google]
1465569616705.png
520 KB, 1000x1000
>>148545896
>>
>>148547343
Yeah, the whole gun affair is probably the gravest thing Chloe does, and even if there's things to sympathize with in that, stealing a gun and pointing it - in fun or, later, otherwise - at people is objectively terrible.
>>
>>148549568
I'm not trying to beat up on Chloe either. Like I said, I love her. Max loves her.
Because I cared about her I didn't let her do things that would just hurt her in the end.
>>
>>148550225
I kind of love her too. But it's not beating up if it's true. That was just a terrible thing she did. But she obviously did not have evil intentions. As you said, she was kind of naive and childish, treating it as nothing serious. And later she was justifiably scared and looking to defend herself (remember our last conversation though: she stole the gun before the Nathan confrontation, before she had any understandable reason to want a gun). She is definitely to blame, and even with my love for Chloe I would be troubled not to report her to authorities if she shot someone.

Luckily, as you also say, we never let her do those things. We don't let her become a killer. She doesn't shoot Frank, Nathan or Jefferson, and the stolen gun doesn't kill anyone either. She's young, does something stupid, but nothing terrible happens and she gets away with that one. Stealing guns and playing around with them is a bit hefty of a youth sin, and the game unfortunately never really does make a point of having Chloe realize just how fucking stupid she was being, but eh. I can forgive her.
>>
File: 1439681504107.jpg (457 KB, 2112x1188) Image search: [Google]
1439681504107.jpg
457 KB, 2112x1188
I want to join their band!
>>
>>148555407
>>
File: violincomic.png (89 KB, 500x400) Image search: [Google]
violincomic.png
89 KB, 500x400
>>148556616
>>
>>148556991
Shun immorality. Every other sin which a man commits is outside the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body.
>>
>>148556991
Kinda lude tbqhwyf

>>148555407
Chloe's triangle always cracks me up
>>
File: hue.jpg (55 KB, 500x281) Image search: [Google]
hue.jpg
55 KB, 500x281
>>148557443
*lewd

lude is probably what you would use on Kate
>>
>>148556991
You sick fuck.
>>
>>148557443
Same. Even though it seems like the she'd play the Bass Guitar.At least going by a majority of the art people have drawn of her with an instrument.
Where as Max clearly plays guitar. The both of them would sing though.
>>
>>148545896
>http://pyx-2.pretendyoure.xyz/zy/game.jsp#game=75
I missed it :(
>>
>>148550961
Thinking about it, ~would~ I report her? It's not like the dead person benefits from it, and while it could be good for that person's close/loved ones to find out what happened, Chloe obviously didn't want to hurt anyone, let alone in cold blood. She doesn't belong in jail. So maybe I should rather say I would not prevent her from handing herself over if she so chose, or vice-versa prevent the authorities from getting to her - but I would not report her. Especially not in that technically-self-defense Frank scenario.

Either way, she doesn't shoot anyone in any sane playthrough and so it's whatever.

>>148556991
I don't think there's anything to "forgive" in wanting to have sex with someone. Even if the emphasis on her being a virgin comes off very predatory and harmful. But that you are inclined to share those thoughts here... Well, I forgive you for that. Just keep it to yourself in the future?

>>148557443
Cracks me up too. I always see her wanting to join their band, and poor Chloe didn't learn an instrument, but Max - desperately wanting to include her - suggests she can totally play the triangle. And thus Chloe became a very proud part of the music.

But I agree with >>148558228 too: Chloe's not musically illiterate, quite the opposite. Even if she could not yet handle an instrument (we don't actually know whether she is at all unable to, seeing as how she was never in Max's dorm or talked about playing guitar and stuff with her ;;), we know she has a presentable taste in music and a good singing voice.
>>
>>148557972
S-sorry
>>
>>148558320
There's always another day anon
>>
>>148556991
>Implying Kate is a virgin
>>
>>148559389
>implying she isn't
>>
>>148559598
Kate is a whore and you know it
>>
File: sad.webm (746 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
sad.webm
746 KB, 1280x720
>>148560007
no
>>
>>148559769
Shut the fuck up
>>
File: tumblr_nx2dszJbug1u9grhgo1_1280.png (869 KB, 960x540) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_nx2dszJbug1u9grhgo1_1280.png
869 KB, 960x540
>>148559061
So much wasted potential by not having Chloe see Max's dorm room. As well as not having her meet Kate.

I've already concluded that the three of them would all be great friends that may be different, but get along very well. Kate knowing that Max wouldn't be friends with a bad person, and Chloe knowing that Kate's not a threat. Although Max may have some initial apprehension about telling Kate that she's dating Chloe, even though I highly doubt Kate would have any objections or problems.
>>
>>148560139
>>148560324
You better start running...
>>
File: 14545274509280.jpg (55 KB, 1270x706) Image search: [Google]
14545274509280.jpg
55 KB, 1270x706
>>148560805
No, let me.
>>
>>148561750
Okay, go for it Kate. (Just watch the backblast)
>>
File: 319630_20160324194942_1.png (1 MB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
319630_20160324194942_1.png
1 MB, 1920x1080
>>148560616
Agreed on the wasted potential. Although at least with that one transitional photo we have the implication that she was in Max's dorm in one timeline, and her grip on the guitar does not look like that of an amateur. Safe to assume she can play a bit.

I never really thought about how Kate would fit into it, but I agree there's no reason to assume they wouldn't get along. While Chloe and Kate are very different types and personalities, they are not stubborn, pity or narrow-minded either. They'd get along perfectly well, for the most part anyway. Especially with Max there. And as opposed to Max, Kate is actually pretty helpless at times and could benefit from Chloe's badass mentality and actual bodyguarding.
>>
>>148560916
I really did.
>>
>>148562265
Chloe could help Kate deal with some of her issues like her overbearing mother and aunt by teller her to stand up for herself. Chloe would be a balancing influence for Kate, her whole life she's hard the same things and now there's Chloe to help her see why sometimes that way doesn't work.
Kind of Chloe being like a big sister to Kate since all of Kate's sisters are younger. Plus her bodyguard, as you said. Whenever someone stupidly makes fun of Kate for what she went through, they have to deal with Chloe.
>>
File: PANCAKES.jpg (464 KB, 900x1772) Image search: [Google]
PANCAKES.jpg
464 KB, 900x1772
>>
File: END IT.jpg (86 KB, 1278x663) Image search: [Google]
END IT.jpg
86 KB, 1278x663
>>148542048
>>148541151
>>148540227
>>148539218
>>148538569
Did you fags cry? I kept feeling like it while playing the game but kept holding it back because I ain't a bitch. 3 days later and 1 litre of wine I finally cried for 10 minutes straight
>>
>>148565879
>fags
That's no way to talk. Say "friends". Yes, I did
>>
File: 1468406873910.webm (2 MB, 960x1080) Image search: [Google]
1468406873910.webm
2 MB, 960x1080
>>148565879
Didn't you post exactly that the other day?
>>
File: 1468113759179.gif (102 KB, 720x720) Image search: [Google]
1468113759179.gif
102 KB, 720x720
>>148566751
nyes...
>>
>>148538569
It's ok anon. I felt exactly the same way. Maybe it's because the game is just sad to you, maybe it's because (like me) it revealed some deep discontentments within you.

I posted a long an embarrassing few posts about it a few threads back.

Eventually you won't feel sad, just dead inside. So you have that to look forwards to.
>>
File: 1468121263631.png (244 KB, 1280x1433) Image search: [Google]
1468121263631.png
244 KB, 1280x1433
>>148566607
but I'm a grown man that cried because of a video game featuring lesbians. I MUST say fag a lot to reassert my masculinity.
>>
File: 1460309815775.jpg (168 KB, 1300x1083) Image search: [Google]
1460309815775.jpg
168 KB, 1300x1083
>>148567003
Dead inside. Yes.
But then you find some level of peace through cuteposting and fanfics.
>>
File: 1465328347493.png (190 KB, 500x450) Image search: [Google]
1465328347493.png
190 KB, 500x450
>>148567121
This is a comfy general and I want to stop calling you baitcuck. Help me with it why don't you?
>>
File: 1468349263563.jpg (200 KB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
1468349263563.jpg
200 KB, 1280x720
>>148567190
More a suppression then finding peace.

By the way, lots of happenings recently, I hope all our friends in France and Turkey, if we had any French or Turks on here, are ok.
>>
File: ayy jefferson u wan sum fuk.png (345 KB, 483x688) Image search: [Google]
ayy jefferson u wan sum fuk.png
345 KB, 483x688
>>148567442
Are you Max and I'm Victoria? Are you extending the olive branch of peace?
>>
>>148566751
tfw I didn't get the kiss ending because bae>bay
>>
File: nx3d.jpg (355 KB, 500x759) Image search: [Google]
nx3d.jpg
355 KB, 500x759
>>148567716
Only if you want to.
>>
>>148568072
Sacrificing that one kiss for the bae ending just means they can share more kisses, anyway.
>>
File: 1467787177104.png (572 KB, 800x450) Image search: [Google]
1467787177104.png
572 KB, 800x450
>>148568072
That's okay

>>148568324
This
>>
>>148568193
I suppose that's agreeable f-f-friend
>>
File: i_hug_that_feel.png (100 KB, 600x553) Image search: [Google]
i_hug_that_feel.png
100 KB, 600x553
>>148568960
>filename
>>
File: chasemarsh.png (480 KB, 1170x1800) Image search: [Google]
chasemarsh.png
480 KB, 1170x1800
>>148568960
>>
File: 1376621585805.png (53 KB, 571x494) Image search: [Google]
1376621585805.png
53 KB, 571x494
>>148569206
>>
>>148568324
Yup. You also give Chloe, David, Victoria, Joyce, and a bunch of other chances to make up for their mistakes and become better.
Where as in the other ending you just shut the door and leave everyone without the maturing and realizations they had during the week.
The storm made people realize how close they were to losing everything and will bring them together.
Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 248

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.