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Previously on /tosg/: >>148233412

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
FOE(Jinsae)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
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first for something
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is this gay or super gay
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How are DEF and MDEF calculated when reducing incoming damage?
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SR has so many more benefits.
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A S U N A
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Discord link:
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>148301543
>your my asuna
>he's been trying to sell his Asuna Wind Runners for years
Being this guy's asuna doesn't seem like such a great thing

sort of seems like he doesn't take very good care of his asunas
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>Hunter3/Scout2
This sounds so dumb.
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>>148301569
They subtract from the enemy's atk/matk. It's a flat reduction, but it's very early on damage calculation, so it does make quite a difference. Specially for multihit skills.
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>>148301569
Attack + skill damage multiplified by a few modifiers minus defense multiplied by level difference penalty added to elemental defense (if applicable) multiplied by a few modifers.
The result is then modified by most other modifiers.
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>Still playing this shit
>Not playing Overwatch
>Tree of Savior
>7 Years in development
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>>148301694
Go Scout1Falconer1
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>>148301609
thats cringe but cute
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>>148301703
>It's a flat reduction, but it's very early on damage calculation,
THEN ITS NOT A FLAT REDUCTION I'M SICK OF THIS BAD MEMEL
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>>148301789
Scout at all sounds dumb.
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>>148301781
>not playing both
>while masturbating to ERP logs
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>>148301781
I got tired of Overwatch two weeks ago. I don't know how anyone can even reach level 100+ without getting tired of it.
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>>148301928
Just realized A2Hunter3 is rank 5. Just go FalcMusk or something like that.
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>>148301979

I got tired of ToS two weeks ago. I don't know how anyone can even reach level 270+ without getting tired of it.
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>>148301979
>I don't know how anyone can even reach level 100+ without getting tired of it.
And yet here you are
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>>148302176
But this isn't overwatch general...?
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>>148301936
>masturbating to ERP logs
>not masturbating while ERPing
>on video chat
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>>148301609
?????
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>>148302262

We Overwatch general now.
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>fletchers about to get nerfed
>afk sorcs about to get nerfed
>elememes about to get nerfed

is TOS about to get made great again?
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>>148302347
>fletchers about to get nerfed
nice lie, the ktos buff is giving rangers 45% steady aim
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How do I Pied Piper?
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>>148302347
>afk sorcs
You mean necros right

And yes. Fletcher and Elememe's mere existences completely shatter the balance of the game.
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>>148302486
>he doesn't know
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=412
I'm sorry for crushing you dreams, anon.
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>>148302579
That just means they're gonna get our nerfs (steady aim, skyliner, linker, etc)
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>>148302347
what are the afk sorc nerfs?
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>>148302579
>Hello, Tree of Seychelles is empty.
kek
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>>148302579
>Hello, Tree of Schylles is empty
What did they mean by this?
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>>148302782
Every time
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I dont know if I translated this right but

Cartar Stroke should now deal 20% (25%?) of the damage taken while charging, meaning if you charge it for 15 levels, 20% of the damage you take on that duration will be added to the final damage
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>>148302747
If they do get our nerfs, the Korean Tree of Seychelles really will be empty.
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>Wiz3Ele3Lock
>Wiz3Kino2Necro2
>Wiz3Link2Necro2
What best for PvP/GvG anon?
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>>148302850
where did you get this?
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>>148302870
Only the second one.

But you have to get dvine's approval before you can start your journey.
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>>148302161
>>148302176
I'm not say this is better than Overwatch. I have like 60 hours in it versus 30 hours in this and will probably stop soon. I'm still a level 50 newfag The game is pretty bad overall but I like the anime art with cool bgm beats.
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>>148303017
some korean guy I played with that manages BOTS on itos, says it would come to ktos soon among other things, only told me about highlander though
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Well Growling is nice, but the side effects are a bit...

>>148302093
Musket doesn't really interest me and I'm mostly in Dex anyways (74 str and 139 dex to be exact currently).
I know it wouldn't be too late to adjust that still, but I'm still not seeing the appeal of Musket over other options.
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>>148303160
I know this sounds cliche as fuck, but the game really doesnt start and is pretty fucking boring at 1-126
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>AlDeBarran
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>>148302870
Thau2NecroWarlock
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>>148303303
>and I'm mostly in Dex anyways
Even better for muskets
>(74 str and 139 dex to be exact currently).
I don't get why people think they should go FULL (STAT) or not at all.
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>>148303202
Was this the only highlander change?
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>>148303601
Anon the only skill that scales well with dex is snipe, all the rest of the skills scale significantly better with str.
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>>148303601
>I don't get why people think they should go FULL (STAT) or not at all.
Because in literally 100% of cases going FULL (STAT) will give you more damage than a mixture of two stats. The damage formula in this game is exceedingly shitty.
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>>148303784
If a skill does more than ~1k skill damage, it scales better with DEX. You're working off of outdated information. The guy who made the STR vs DEX calculator had STR double dipping in the calculation, which made it way better than it is in-game.
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>>148303601
this isnt ragnarok nerdwad, stats all literally server 1 purpouse
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>>148303937
Anon, do you even know how hugely musket skills scale of your attack?
A full str musketeer will significantly outdamage a full dex musketeer.
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who did this
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>>148303601
>Even better for muskets
I see a lot of % + base on their attacks, so unless you mean the ratio I'm pretty much doing is what is fine...

>I don't get why people think they should go FULL (STAT) or not at all.
Because its typically better. strength isn't a really great stat, if it gets fixed to scale better you'd see a lot less "Max dex" builds.

>>148304149
The same people who did this.
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Z A I B A S
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>>148303784
>>148304221
>significantly
Proofs? Headshot isn't that strong to begin with, Penetration is unrealiable, the only argument there would be for Covering Fire, and I doubt you'd get much more than an average of 10% difference between the popular stat distributions

>>148303807
>>148303962
>dex is only useful for getting crit rate
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>>148304067
Anon you are the one who doesn't know how little musketeers scale of your attack.

The 400% is a multiplier at the very end which includes the 6k+ damage, not just a 400% to only physical attack which would be very lame and make you right.
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>>148304149
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>>148304723
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>just threw another $50 at seagm
wake me
(wake me up inside)
can't wake up
(wake me up inside)
call my name and save me from the silver
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right now, there is a fucking cancer on the shout chat
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>>148304837
They need to take their autism pills...
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>>148304837
A U T I S M P I L L S
U T
T I
I S
S M
M F
P U
I C
L K
L I
S T
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>takeitsleazy no longer being listed
did i miss something
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>>148304779
Don't worry, you'll eventually get banned which will save you.
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>>148305006
>autism pills
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>>148305137
>$480 in and not even a warning
if only this were true
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Fellow Saviors, how about spamming ToS forums asking for free skill reset on the respository merge due to differences so IMC would notice?
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>>148305131
Moonie quit as she couldn't get enough attention anymore as the hot topics kept changing to atom out, lolicuck, koenig, kabbatats, mia and whatever else.

So the guild is disbanding.
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>>148305131
no
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>>148304405
>Headshot isn't that strong to begin with, Penetration is unrealiable
This is only putting me off of Musket as a choice.
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>>148305131
Not /tosg/
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>>148305131
Moonie got cucked so hard that she stopped playing
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>>148305296
Nice projecting faggot.
Pic related
It's (you)
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>>148305219
>>148305137
What item do you put up and for how much?
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Is it worth doing daily missions at 250+? Seems like a waste of time for measly exp.
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>>148305485
t. Loonie_
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>>148305495
Nope.
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>>148305493
a +2 spear that i wont name

not klaipedo either
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>>148305579
what's the purpose of the +1 and +2 for rmt?
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>>148305131
I think they accidentally one of the guilds so it's effectively defunct until they can get IMC to fix it
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what addon shows how many people are in each channel?
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I miss Moonie.
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>>148305495
after 210 its literally not worth it to do missions because the exp/hr ratio is horrible
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>>148305810
who ?
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My friends abandoned me, /tosg/, and now the game feels so dry playing all by myself, but i still don't want to quit.
Does any guild from Klaipeda or Orsha want to adopt a refugee from Silute?
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>>148305810
I'm still here!
legion isn't out yet
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>>148305763
lkchat
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>>148305958
>>148305763
LKChannel
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>>148305925
Orsha's warm, welcoming bosom awaits, friend
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>>148305810
Maybe if we focus our braincells she will come back
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>>148306061
Confirming the comfy of Orsha's guild, Kotatsu.
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>>148306061
How can i get a share of this comfyness, senpai?
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>>148305298
Headshot and Penetration are on fairly low cds, but aren't musketeer's most reliable damage dealers, those are Snipe and Covering Fire

Headshot inflicts knockback and has an alright animation time, damage is ok.

Penetration deals ok damage and its a nice "fuck off" if you manage to land all of the five shots
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>>148305928

want some cummies?
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>>148305609
Obviously so you can beat the max market limit.
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Bee leech open for buzziness, whisper for an invite, slots limited!
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>best options for offhand for me are ledas shield, otrava shield, and sage wall if I wanna sacrifice damage for mdef
>ledas shield dungeon is a 30 minute run and can't be properly rushed
>otrava shield is a 217 dungeon drop
>of these only sage wall is tradable
FUCK
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>>148306537
I need some cummies
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>>148306706
Hold hands with an Oracle and farm for sage wall.
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>>148306636
>tfw whispered you but the only answer I received was "has left."
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>>148306537
No thanks
I only drink lalamilk
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>>148306796
I'm sorry! I was probably full or went to sleep before you whispered.
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I hear Jace got caught breaking "Rule #27: Don't be a huge faggot".
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>>148306796
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>Levelling new character
>Go through the hell of the 115 dungeon
>Get Ledas Shield
>This character's build doesn't really benefit that much from it
>Can't transfer it to a character that would

Well fuck you too, IMC.
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>>148303303
>Not recognizing Sakamoto's ultimate technique
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>>148306925
lel
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>>148306706
>mfw first Flammidus cube is Ledas shield
I just wanted her cute card.
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>>148306864
lets get Jace to join Futurecuck
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>>148306863
Next time then, I already found another group for tonight
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>>148306996
>Jace
>joining a mostly pvp guild
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this is maggi

any question ?
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Quick.
Tell me what my INT:CON ratio should be for my cryokino and say why.
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>>148305219
>$480

What the hell did you spend on it? Attributes? Gambling upgrades? ERP?
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>>148307226
attributes mostly
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>>148306045
its not in the addon manager, right? or at least its not included in classic chat one
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>>148293778
pls respond senpaitachi
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>>148307310
https://github.com/Lemon-King/ToS-LKChannel/releases
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>>148306483
Entertain me a bit, how would you spread the skill points?
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>>148307216
shit's getting nerfed, why bother?
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>>148306061
>Orsha is like a band of refugees welcoming other refugees
Somehow feels comfy.
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>>148307385
5 covering 5 snipe 1 headshot 1 penetration because I dislike passing on skills unless they're completely useless
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>>148307189
She's decent looking.
How many good looking women love drawing female porn like maggi does?
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>>148307516
link to maggi's porn?
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>>148307382
thanks a lot
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>>148307516
asanagi and xration are pretty cute to be honest
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>>148306864
Desu guild rules.
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>>148306864
Invite him to CuteNotLewd
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>>148307670
>Joining Desu after Kirito's multiple shameless display
I'd be too embarrassed to join
How do people even stand Kirito
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>>148307656
what do they look like? sauce?
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>>148307050
>Futurecuck
>PvP
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>>148307656
>Asanagi
>those glorious heavenly bodies
>the fucking plots
Fucking hell man
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>>148307790
I wonder the same for people who join futureproof desu
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>>148307949
Asanagi is absolutely fucking based.
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>>148306371
Just whisper the guild leader and/or showup to Monday night meetups.
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>>148307964
Touche.

Loli isn't as bad as people make he look. He just needs to stop sucking other templars off. There are enough cocks in FP if he can't control his gay urges.
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Upgrade Magic Arrow or buy Wind Runner?
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>>148308038

literally japan's legoman. all of his shit looks the same. thicc women drawings are literally the new adventure time-esque noodley appendages as character design for people with no artistic talent
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>>148307516
There's actually quite a few female artists that draw for eroge.
I heard Hamashima is pretty, though she doesn't allow photographs.
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>>148308038
I just wish I could stomach the bad ends
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>>148308151
Magic Arrow. Get it high enough that you reliably win WBs, and you'll be able to afford windrunners in no time.
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>>148308180
>Hirohide Hamashima also known as Hammy, is the former director of the Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team Tyre Development.
Oops.
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should i tell him how bad he fucked up his build?
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>>148308548
>Cleric2Diev2
>Fucked
What?
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>>148308273
What attribute do I max to get worldboss timers, friends that scout the different locations for me and haste so I can actually make it to the boss in time to do damage.
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>>148308646

literally where can he take this shit build?
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>>148308687
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>>148308687
C2, Diev3, Druid2. Enjoy your owls, turning everything into plants for carving and lots of invulnerability time.
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>>148308279
Shigeo Hamashima, anon.
She was at this past AnimeExpo but of course no pictures, just a really blurry screenshot from a livestream of the panel she was a part of when the camera was being positioned.
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>>148308687
That's the basis for every decent monk build and half the PVP cleric builds.
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>>148308687
ET
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>>148308687
>cleric 2 diev 3 druid 1 plague doctor 1
>cleric 2 diev 3 druid 2

2 pretty standard builds,

but who am I kidding, you're shitposting and you'll just respond to this post with "lol shit builds, nice try misinfo agent"
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>>148308687
Why do you act like you know what you're talking about?
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post em
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>>148308754
>>148308778
>>148308797
>>148308813
>>148308820
>>148308908

ensnared in my snafu
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>>148307483
>3 unused points and two unallocated skills (unless they fall into your "completely worthless" criteria)
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>>148308687
Ummm, what?
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>>148308947
well at least he realized he fucked his build/character up and is now finishing off with alch2
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>>148308989
> two unallocated skills (unless they fall into your "completely worthless" criteria)
They do.

>3 unused points
Saving for rank 8 senpai, like I said Snipe and Covering Fire are the real damage dealers
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>>148308947

how do i view my character like this?
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>>148308947
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>>148309174
/name info
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Pshhhht, hey kid

Wanna know a futureproof build?

I got you covered right here,
it's wiz3linker3warlock2shadowmancer

Don't fall for the warlock3 meme,

and better start working on that wiz3link3warlock right now
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>>148309232

>/name info

this isnt working :(
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>>148309174
/memberinfo NameHere

need to use capitalization to match the name also
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>>148309501

this isnt working either, do i need some addon?
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>>148309570
type /memberinfo YourName

use proper capitalization to the match the name
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>>148309770

i am it's not doing anything
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>>148309880
Man you're fucking retarded

Please join Clover, would love to have you here
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>>148309880
You're getting bullied.
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>>148309880
it's just your team name only so /memberinfo Geropi
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>>148309880
>MokoshGeropi
>Team name Geropi
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>Go to town
>Attempt conversation
>Half AFK, half ignore
>Go sell shit to npc
>Have to block the 20 new spam bots so the log isn't flooded
>Shout chat is basically a troll and faggots arguing with troll
>No one talks to each other so solo level forever or until 100s

How do we make the community and game less shit?
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>>148309982
>>148309986

f u

>>148310008

ty
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>>148310118
>2 players like this character
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>>148310095

how do people get so many megaphones?
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>>148310204

what i just started playing recently
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>>148310220
you get 5 free tp every 24 hours. they use the tp on the megaphones
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>>148310320
Nothing, you're cute that's all
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>>148309570
Makes sense.
I'll keep it in mind, It's basically Falcon or SR for c6 and from there it'll determine where I go after, though I admittedly feel more of a draw towards falcon and from there falcon or musket because of the better support.
I just wanna ride my mecha named pet though, too.

>>148310220
You get a free tp every like 4 hours, up to a max of 5.
So even just once a day you can easily grab 5.
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>>148310320
She's pointing out that you're a two-timer who has more than one like partner. You're used goods.
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>>148310332
>>148310414

i've been using them on warp scrolls :/
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>>148310537
Why did you put a colon and a slash at the end of your sentence instead of a period?
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>>148310643
Why don't I put my colon on your dick huh?
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>>148302347
What are still good meta classes?
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>>148310095
Seriously. It's killing the fun factor.
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>>148310095
That's a north american gayming culture thing

Dunno why Americans are all passive-aggressive cucks who only interact with their cliques and don't even think of other players as humans
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>>148301569
it's some shit like (atk - def) * whatever modifiers.
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>>148310095
Join the ERP club
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>>148310950
How?
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>>148310095
apply ktos changes to itos. oh, the community? dunno.
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>>148310907
Why though
It's fucking annoying trying to befriend some faggots so leveling isn't an absolute chore and no one talks. It's stupid, and probably the reason I'd quit.
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So what, the koreans will get our patch with steady aim, skyliner nerfs (they got FC aoe ratio nerf already) while we get barbarian buffs?
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>>148311042
We will get kToS things like Arena and rank8 but they are getting our balance changes
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Am I doing this right
>>148308947
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>>148311112
I dunno man,
try joining a guild or something

Maybe not a 4chan guild though, they're often quite autistic themselves and barely talk
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>>148311146
as long as we get their silver on dgs I think I'm fine with all the other shitness
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>>148310950
I get ignored even in the erp club ;-;
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>>148311173

sorry
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>>148310095
It's a solo game. There's no real reason for interaction. When you do interact, usually there's at least some banter (not in dungeons, they don't count).
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do i need to worry about getting cards from the monster kills achievements?
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>tfw usually very talkative
>but also autistic about efficiency
>not really nimble enough to chat and play properly
>always feel bad about the awkward silence when grinding
>wanna start talking but don't wanna distract myself or possibly others
>everything is autistic and lonely though

Man I can't even hold all these feels
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What does he meme by this?
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>>148311307
>MMORPG
>Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game

This is far from a solo game, m8
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>>148311649
It's an MMORPG in name only, not in mechanics.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4sfmrd/level_1_130_alt_leveling_guide/

good y/n ?
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>>148311441
level 10 and level 11 exp kill achievements only
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>>148311492
If someone's grinding or doing sidequests that you're doing, why not ask to party up?
If you're like me, you'll probably get ignored while they switch channels though.
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anyone know the best bot program for this game?
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>>148310690
QS3 + whatever
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>>148311790
Meatspin has what you need.
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>>148311649
>>Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game
The only letter in there that applies to modern MMORPGs is the O, and IMC can't even do that consistently.
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>>148311790
wiz3
linker or costume of your choice
sorc
necro2
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so, who's this "KANU"? It looks like KANU and MIKO are the new archers? with Mergen
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>>148311947
>>148311790
we're full, buzz off!
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>>148302305
The fuck is going on
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>>148311698
Advertising your gay site is a violation of the rules.
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>>148311979
nigga we've been over this like 30 times already
also all the gook fanbois are sleeping
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>>148311947
>sorc2
>necro

Here you go, I fixed that little typo of yours
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>>148312080
>necro1
>no skellies
KEK
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>>148311173
SLUT
SLUT
SLUUUUUUT
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>>148311979
kanu and miko same class,
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Why can't get my Ignition recipe /tosg/?, How much does it cost in silver or talt or whatever?
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>>148312156
le spooky soldiers that survive 20 minutes tops

Nice fucking botting faglord
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>>148312258
wow your skeletons are WEAK
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>>148312059
sry i was sleeping all this time
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>>148311881

lmfao dude what? all im seeing is some penis swinging loool
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>>148312258
>Nice fucking botting faglord
>going Sorc
>not botting in the first place
???
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I want all botters to get permabanned from this planet.
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>>148312468
I was being sarcastic because its shit botting,
because skeletons are shit for afk

They're only good if you constantly resummon them

Only reason to have necro at all is for the fat shoggoth to take hits
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>>148312578
look at this misinfo lord
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fire rod for 200k worth it?
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>>148311649
You have to play with other for ET in the whole game and maybe world bossing in primetime and sometimes you can solo cube with the right class and luck enough to get boss spawn next to you
Guild Events only works when the templar solo them too
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>>148312757
No, don't be stupid.
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>time in queue: 20 minutes
>people in queue went from 11 to 20 in that span
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>>148313036
mission queue? they might not be in your level range
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>>148312816

what should i pair with my arde dagger at level 83 then?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-5IU5Hpko
necro anthem

get on the kill score before you pretend you ever hustled sorcerer2 misinfo agent
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>>148313224

love seeing white women in hiphop videos. makes my dick rock hard
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>>148313176

Anything, lol. Get the best white lv 75 rod, upgrade it to +3 and you're done.

Wasting money with low lv gear is a mistake, 120 is fast and you have arde that will give you broken damage to that level range.

Elemental hats / attributes for your good skills are a better investment

If you have that much money to waste, go ahead, fire rod can be sold later anyway
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>>148312537

i report everyone at the bee farm when I pass through there for quests
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>>148313346

i bought 6m silver so i dont think it really matters if i spend it this early? i can always just buy more
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>>148313397
Based RMT bro
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>>148313457
>tfw Necro3 will turn you into a lich

man I can't wait for r8
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>>148313397
Then why are you even asking for a cheaper deal? You're already a wallet warrior, fucking idiot.
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>>148313657

>wallet warrior

why does RMT ass blast you so much?
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>>148313725
he's mad he's poor.
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>>148313725
Because you're being a hypocrite and penny-pinching.
>is this a good deal?
>i can always just buy more
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>no patchu
>top 30
>no dungeon queues
>everyone is quitting
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JP OBT next month, release officially one month after OBT
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okay so i made a new character and noticed all the maps i 100% explored on my first character are also fully explored on my alt... does that mean my alt gets boned out of all that bonus exp cards?
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>>148314171
just a visual bug
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>>148314109

2nd from right.... practically begging for cummies....
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