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Old thread: >>147966191
anyone wanna buy me a month of game time on eu? ill happily do your maths homework :P
Please orbit
Please respond
Halp
It says 23/25 followers, but I only unlocked like 10% of them. Does that mean I can unlock all of them, but only send 25 at the time on missions?
>>148020508
You can only have 25 active followers at a time. When you get your 26th follower, you can't send anyone on missions until you deactivate one of them.
>>148020508
yeah, you can unlock all of them but you can only use 25 at one time
>>148020313
>that sneaky dawg
cant trust them these days
>>148020607
>>148020625
Okay cool, thanks
>>148020313
What the fuck is happening in this picture? Why is that Worgen trying to get some delicious booty? Why does that Nelf have an iPhone?
>>148020701
why is the black guy behind the tauren look like he wants to shank the worgen tho?? blizz racis, he dindu
>>148021000
Trolls aren't dindus that's orcs
>>148008379
>expecting someone to want to continue the conversation when you've just resorted to "FALSIFY THE UNFALSIFIABLE!!11"
>>148021052
>trolls have had a raid tier of themselves in almost every expansion
>not dindus
over half the horde is fucking dindus
tauren are the only ones that're actually bros
![[loligeddon] Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - 04v2 [BD720p][C14218AB].mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2014.06.26_22.17.52].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HFhGBxC.jpg "[loligeddon] Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - 04v2 [BD720p][C14218AB].mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2014.06.26_22.17.52].jpg")
Does anyone want to play World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor™ with me in two hours? I'm level 17 and US
>>148021381
>animeshitter
nah, fuck off and die faggot
Is it safe to post feet or is janitor banning again?
>>148021554
autism
>>148021338
>tfw no troll raid in WoD
>tfw Overwatch stopped there from being a troll raid in Wrath
there'd better be one in Legion
>>148021554
Depends on how cute they are
>>148021381
no but I can email you some rope to hang yourself with you dumb animeposter
>>148021482
Back to ribbit
>>148021809
HARAM
A
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A
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YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR THAT MATE
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>>148021482
>>148021794
Please don't bully me
>>148021809fap/10
>>148021749
WoD didn't have trolls or dragons in raids. This had never happened before.
>>148021809
time for your helicopter ride
>>148021338
Goblins and Forsaken aren't dindus because they don't feel shame in being evil.
>>148022081
HFC is the only time an expansion's final raid didn't have a dragon fight. They should have had us fight Kairoz's spirit
>>148021867
>some anime man child was actually autistic enough to try and delude himself into thinking he's relevant by making some retarded picture
statistics show that /pol/ is the most popular board and they despise anime virgins there
makes sense that anime virgins would ignore statistics though seeing that they are delusional
>>148022224
Honestly Kairoz should've had a much bigger role in WoD than "oh yeah Garrosh killed him and you fight his ghost in a quest".
This expansion has been nothing but wasted potential.
>>148021794
>2016 retail wow player telling anyone else to kill themselves
Just stopped by to laugh at you
>>148022081
>Blizzard is going to see this as the reason the expansion tanked
>Every raid in Legion will be trolls and dragons
>>148022340
i see nothing wrong with this
>>148022340
I am okay with this.
>>148022334
>spending 800 hours in vanilla WoW only to have the server shut down
NOSTAL-KEKS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AHAHAHAHHA
does legacy dungeon levelling still work?
>>148022334
vanilla wow fanboy content with only spamming frostbolt for 12 years
>>148022316
Anime isn't particularly despised in /pol/, do you even go there? Where do you think those momiji and other anime MAGA hat images come from?
You clearly only want to fit in with the vocal /v/ millennial crowd
>>148022340
>tfw last boss of Legion is Rastakhan riding the troll equivalent of a frost wyrm made of Galakrond's bones captured by the Drakkari and raised by the Gurubashi
I'll take 20
>>148022527
why is everyone on this site a faggot
>>148022464
>a few people out of the hundreds of thousands of users every month on /pol/ post retarded pictures! this proves anime watchers are the majority!!!!!
The board gets plastered with australians posting interracial porn as well, does that mean /pol/ is a pro-race mixing board as well you fucking inbred retard?
>joining up with friends for 10man raids in legion
>they're missing one tank
>compelled to play protection to help them
>got warlords CM gold transmogs and won't get to dual wield those sweet polearms if I play prot
>>148022560
Most WoW players are trannies, crossdressers, or want to fuck them
>>148022609
good thing there's dual spec
>>148022609
the dwarf face shield isnt bad either
>>148022624
ok but why
>>148022594
It means that people who dislike anime are a small and vocal minority. The majority are neutral.
I'm sorry if you're so frustrated with your opinions that you formed second hand from other people being proven wrong. Maybe try lurking a bit more until you're old enough to post legally
>>148022665
thing is I'd probably never get to play fury if we're raiding all the time, unless we get a replacement
>>148022728
the one-handed sword is shit though
>>148022749
The game is low skill so they don't have to think, they can actually look like a girl unlike IRL, they can socialize and get attention like they crave IRL, and they can get betas from ITT to give them paypal money or gear for nudes like in the past
anyone who enjoys doing lfr or only does lfr should kill themselves
>>148022758
>It means that people who dislike anime are a small and vocal minority. The majority are neutral.
Now you've just completely moved the goal posts. Your original claim was that 4chan's majority demographic were people who actively watched anime, and now you're agreeing with me that most people just simply don't watch or care about it enough to even spend a minute thinking about whether or not it bothers them.
Thank you for conceding the argument so easily. Usually people just start shit-posting when they realise their point is completely wrong.
>>148022847
because it makes u a faggot
>>148022852
What about people who have nobody to raid with anon
>>148022839
All the weapons from Challenge modes are shit.
>>148022879
You should learn what moving the goalposts means, I never claimed the majority of the demographic watched anime. Did that trigger you or something? Sorry if you're upset I guess
>>148022930
Feminine penis was declared not gay by the Vatican Church
>>148022938
lol u can literally join guilds that at least do normal mode with no issue, if you cant even find people for normal you arent trying and should just quit, plus last i checked this was an mmo. find people quit making the game do everything for you
>>148022941
t. shitter who doesn't have them lmao
>>148022545
I'm entirely fine with this to be honest
I just finished the MSQ on FFXIV, and I'm gonna dip my head into WoW for a bit once it finished downloading.
Quick couple questions before I jump in; how do the expansions work, and which tanks can use a battleaxe?
>>148023048
good thing im not the vatican church
>join a pro raiding guild
>GM is a cool dude, adds me on facebook
>my first raid with them is a-go
>DING facebook message
>it's from the gm
>"hey"
>I reply with "hey?"
>tab back into the game
>kicked out of the raid and the guild
what just happened
>>148023165
Any tank can use an axe
>>148023079
>just b urself it's easy to make friends
Fucking stop breathing you retarded normalfag and go back to facebook. I have been playing since 2009 and have had zero (0) friends in this entire span despite always going out of my way to try to make friends. Are you genuinely autistic and believe that it's really that easy to find people. I cannot fucking stand normalfag fucks like you.
>>148023165
right now Death Knight or Druid, in Legion only Death Knights
>>148023192
you were trash and u got kicked m8
>>148022938
PUGs
Don't judge them this late into drought though.
>>148023192
>using Facebook during a raid
Deserved it desu
>>148023165
only death knights can tank with a two handed axe, but any tank class should be able to transmog their main hand into a one handed axe
>>148023226
hahaha if you are on US realms transfer to Thrall and join a guild called Return to Honor they will literally take anyone into normal and heroic with them and still clear the raid. I just found u some friends, sorry u are such a pussy
>>148022879
Are you illiterate
The image he posted was talking about the past demographic. Not that I expected any more from a modern blizzard fan
Can I use my level 100 boost in a starting zone? I want to use it in the wandering isle and just fuck with new players trying to do quests.
>>148023402
>transfer to Thrall
>lol transfers are cheap get a job faggot *snorts cocaine with 100 dollar bill*
>>148023192
probably testing your dedication, raiders always have high levels of autism
What was in Uldum's spot before Cata?
I heard they are revamping the combat, is that true?
>>148023583
either ocean or unclimbable mountains, I don't remember
>>148023583
Nothing, you could get through by glitching yourself
>>148023531
bum 25 off of ur shithead parents who made u such a antisocial fuckhead
>>148023531
I'm embarrassed for you
>>148023801
I was just pretending to be retarded.
Why is Li Li so punchable?
>>148023869
yea id punch her asshole with my dick
>>148023326
>>148023271
>>148023221
Thanks, but now how do the expansions work?
are they like heavensward, a direct continuation of the story?
or are they sectioned off and self contained like, say skyrim's dlc?
>>148023869
Because pandas are punch balls
>>148023929
the first two expansions are continuation's of the RTS game's story, the later ones are self-contained stories new to the MMO
>>148023929
they pretty much all focus on their own shit, vanilla u do random shit, bc u fuck with the legion, wrath u deal with the lich king etc, once you reach the levels required you can move on you dont need to do the story to get into the next xpac content
>>148023886
delet
>>148024120
hey cutie
>>148023929
Expansion are total overhaul and progress the story. Zones correspond to the last expansion that updated them.
Technically it's treated like time travel. Your characters starts with Cataclysm(2011?) then magically goes through 2007 story, then 2008 story and so on.
>>148023402
Not him but I play on Thrall and just came back to the game with no guild. Who can I whisper for an invite?
>>148023929
extremely flexible even though there is a timeline implied as you get quests from a guy in one area while he is considered dead in another
>>148024207
im pretty sure the only dude who can invite is the GM, i think his toon name is Wolcott, find the guild in the guild finder and say u want to join if he isnt on
>>148023085
No, I have them, and none of them even come close to matching the Challenge Mode transmog sets. Maybe if they actually put effort into them matching I'd wear them, because the sets from MoP look amazing for some classes.
the moment i hop into a realm with RealmHopAssist my fps tanks
wtf
it usually never drops below 30 even in crowded fights in ashran or raids.
any clue what's causing this shit?
>>148022941
>>148024704
Say that to our faces in our garrisons and not online and see what happens fucker
guys what ream should I roll my demon hunter on? only been on darksorrow and hardly see other players.
Also I enjoy both pvp and pve so no restriction there
>>148024707
>fps drops
>in a game made in 2005
Holy fuck just get a computer you third world shitbag.
>there are people who unironically throw a ridiculous amount of money in mounts, pets and deluxe shit for "completion"
you are more retarded than the csgobabbies lmao
>>148024906
thrall-pve if you are on US, high pop during the afternoon and peak times, wont have a queue during legion launch
>check out Legion
>no timeless isle
>no ashran
what the frick, what am I supposed to do then
>>148025123
if you're serious world quest, mythic+ dungeons, raids, pvp
>>148024897
>horde
>>148025089
damn nigga forgot to mention that I'm on eu :c
>tfw too shitter and poor to get cm weaps
>>148025246
stormscale/kazzak/twisting nether for the eu bros if you play horde
>>148025209
I've got 10+ 100s on Alliance as well, take your pick senpai.
>>148024932
the shitty addon is causing it you shitter not my pc. as i said it doesnt drop below 60 unless it's a clusterfuck fight in ashran or something
also
>made in 2005
you're probably one of those idiots playing with old models and view distance at low with no shadows enabled lmfao cause if you weren't you'd knew that this game can be pretty demanding when on max settings.
>>148025504
>playing both factions
>>148025417
I sure do
and also any wowg guilds there?
>>148025706
>>148025706
>missing out on /wowg/ antics and half of the game because of "muh faction pride"
It's time to kys yourself, friend.
>>148025829
>half the game
reskinned quest nice
>>>148025706
>>148025994
>>148025804
>>148025706
>blatant samefagging
its obvious because you name your filenames autistically
>>148025656
I just run it at high settings or whatever was recommended when I installed WoD and my FPS is always above 100. Stop being poor.
>>148026065
holy shit u got me anon u are so smart
>>148026095
>whatever was reccomended
it's probably on low and you don't even know lol
>>148026316
Just checked, it's Ultra. Get fucked poorfag.
>>148026095
>doesn't even optimize the settings
average wow player right here kek
>>148024707
Because when you change realms it loads everything again. Fun times doing Pandaria Spine roll achievement when you cross 4 zones and some might be phased.
whats everyone up to
>>148025504
That's a top tier draenei, good job man
Is priest lv10shadow spec able to heal in dungeons?
>>148027098
isn't dual spec at 15?
it shouldn't matter, go shadow at 10 and get disc or something at 15
>>148027098
no, your shield has a cooldown in shadow
>>148027161
dual is 30, 15 gives you LFG access
>>148026990
Thanks!
I'm starting a US raiding guild for returning players who want to raid in Legion, since returning and finding a guild can be difficult.
If you interested let me know
>>148027451
Why haven't you kys'd yourself yet? Surely the warlords drought and infinite BTFOing should have ended you by now
Why are you still here?
>>148027537
I'm interested.
>>148027537
server/faction?
>>148027971
gimme yo battletag
>>148028042
Probably Zul'Jin Horde
>>148022847
need more of this desu
>>148027793
I'd question your definition of "BTFO" but regardless, no amount of either of those things could get me to leave /wowg/ permanently. I've actually been enjoying myself lately because of the people I've met on here, but a drought is still a drought. Legion can't come soon enough.
Just wait. I will lead this thread into a second golden age during Legion. Mark my words, anon.
>>148027098
you cant even queue for healer if you are specd shadow
>>148024704
The only good looking sets were DK Pally and Shaman
I spent enough time to win 1000 queued pet battles in world of warcraft
my life is a fucking joke
Just need that stupid transmog patch to actually look decent.
>>148023483
Pls
>>148023192
That's a pretty clever way of testing how serious people take raiding.
>>148028716
DK set is boring and generic.
Paladin set looks good.
Shaman set is literal dog shit.
Looks like you just have shit taste, enjoy being an ugly fuck.
>>148028982
>dwarf monk
I like your style.
>>148028982
shoulders?
>>148029331
>DK set is boring and generic.
On what planet is the DK set boring and generic? Not him since I think the mage CM set is the best one, but DK is generic? Wew lad...
>>148028716
this must be trolling. those two are the worst sets, along with warrior
pally and rogue look nice
anybody knows any good blizzlike TBC server?
i dont feel like giving blizzard money before legion
>>148029679
holy shit it must be that everyone has different opinions, this is crazy
SEND HELP
WORRIED
>>148029907
>still hasn't gotten it after 41 more attempts
so ded...
Someone post smutty femOrcs.
>>148029907
what is the addon to track attempt numbers
>>148030929
Rarity
>>148029585
>another frosty blue set
also the wod season 1 elite set looks better desu
is tailor/enchanting solid for priest?
>>148031165
yes
>>148031165
Yes, priests can actually farm almost as well as moonkins with feathers and holy nova.
>>148031165
I miss the old Tailoring enchants. That cloak proc was dope as fug.
do I do darkshore or get my ass to westfall?
>>148032185
darkshore + rainymood for max comfy
Be sure to turn up that ambiance.
>>148032185
Darkshore is a lot better than Westfall
Twilight's Hammer >>>>>>>>>>> CSI: Memeami
It doesn't matter if the CM sets look like shit or not everyones getting them in legion :^)
Icycrits.
>>148034368
meh most are pretty downgraded, cm sets also come with some nice animations so as someone who has one doesnt bother me much
>>148034368
I've seen the Legion versions of the ones I care about, the mage one is so ugly that it's not even worth getting.
Are there any benefits to playing on a low pop realm nowadays? Besides queue times.
>>148034834
never understood why u would want to play on a low pop ever
what did she mean by this wowg?
>>148035106
she wants to sex
>ywn watch mumi get pounded by lynyas cute girl cock
>>148035472
why do u guys worship these faggots?
>>148035534
because they are faggots too
>>148035745
why are there so many faggots in this general?
When is monster musume season 2
>>148035860
there are no girls in wow
>>148035472
Who the fuck is Lynya
>>148036287
u really thought they were going to give a complete copy of the sets basically for free?
>pala tank avenger shield hits for 280k at level 100
dank meme
>>148036357
The biggest slut on moonguard
She sends nudes
>>148035860
they are prison gay
>>148036287
>tfw didn't play during MoP to get CM sets
>tfw joined too late in WoD to get enough skill or gold for CM weapons
Heck.
>>148036357
another faggot
>>148036601
that's not what the word blackmail means
>>148035169
cute female panders are pure, don't say that.
>>148036605
WoD CM weapons aren't that great you're not missing out trust me
all transmog looks the same
it's all ugly
>>148036853
I explicitly stated in the post that I joined too late to get in on the gold you dork.
>>148036907
I like some of them, especially the staves and off-hands.
>>148037165
Out of all the weapons I got from cm I only use 1 this number will increase to 2 when legion will come out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiFhlHfqLc
So anyone who has been playing in the beta. Did they make night darker? I like the rain in this but has anything else improved?
>>148037317
at least you can use them on all of your characters unlike the MoP sets
I'm returning to WoW because of the expanion of course, and I'm selling stuff to prepare.
I have bunch of currencies that I'm not sure on what to use:
-2500 Apexis Crystals
-100 Gorian Artifact Fragments
-73 Artifact Fragments
-2200 Garrison Resources
What is the best way to spend it in order to get the most gold out of it? (like say buy crafting mats with it and sell those on AH?)
>>148037754
everything but the garrison resources are pretty much worthless
>>148037754
That's not really much of anything honestly. What buildings does your garrison have? What level are the buildings? What level is your garrison?
>>148037754
None of that is going to make you any money, that's a pathetic amount and the fragments are absolutely useless. You're looking at 1,000 gold or so with GR if you have a trading post.
>>148038073
lol
>>148037417
Not that I've noticedmfw I don't have any Saya pictures on my phone
So I'm finally 100 what now?
How does early game gearing up work now? are you better off just farming honor?
>>148038520
Wait for Legion.
>>148038492
hi feris
>>148038109
If he has rep he can buy the apexis + gold pets and then flip them for 2x the gold.
>>148038073
Explain?
>blingtron's vault now
did the treasure hunter disappear in pre-patch or legion?
>>148039151
Pretty sure it goes away in pre-patch.
>>148038520
Do all lfrs, do some stuff around the garrison. If you like questsing, a completed zones gives access to a trasure map, which is fun to do. Otherwise start a new character
>>148021381
Ok, I'm ready now
Please play
>>148037417
Forgot to respond to you: I don't know about the old world, but the Broken Isles' nights are dark as heck and the skyboxes are very nice. Legion will be a comfy expansion, if anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTski-kio-w
>>148038830
Depends on the server really, on more populated realms they don't sell for piss. But I guess you're right, it's something.
>>148038520
Level another character or alternatively cryogenically freeze yourself until Legion, or at the very least the prepatch.
>>148037871
>>148038109
I figured as much since I never really farmed these resources, but any little gold I can make would be great.
How can I sell this for most gold then? Any little would do.
1000g is nice enough for me anon, but I have only lv1 trading post.
>>148037901
Level 3 hall. Level 2 workshop, scribe quarters, enchanter's study, salvage yard. Everything else is lv 1.
I can build lv 1 trading post if that does any good?
Hey guys when does monster musume season 2 come out
>>148039319
Honestly, at this point, you're pretty much out of time to do anything with what you have.
>>148039458
I hate casual retarded faggots who like this trash show, the IQ for the average monster musume fan is 65 and they've only seen 200 or less shows and have a microdick anime power level
>>148039597
Sorry i just wanted to know when monster musume season 2 comes out
>>148039519
Yeah I don't really wanna invest or work on it, but just cash in all the resources for as much gold as possible, even if the amount of gold I get is tiny. (Since i assume after expansion all of this will literally be worthless)
>>148039319
You only need the level 1 trading post, do the quest in there which will unlock the trader. Then trade all of your resources for any mats that sell well on your server or worst case scenario some bags of gold. Conversation seems to be 3 GR = 1 gold or something like that for those bags.
But the other anon is correct, you're too late. Just set up for Legion instead.
>>148039712
You'd lose more by upgrading the trading post than you would gain. Just run as many gold earning missions as you can. You'd make more just farming cata raids
>>148038073
kek
>>148039687
Sorry is right you idiot, Monster Musume is the equivalent of Reddit: the anime. Watch superior intellectual shows like Ange Vierge
i play a troll male
>>148039719
>Just set up for Legion instead.
How do you mean?
>>148039841
>>148039712
But thank you everyone for your replies.
>>148039719
It's conversion not conversation you retarded spic
>>148040179
start doing all the cata raids on 25m heroic and make some gold before legion
>>148040075
I just googled that and there arent any animal girls. Papi is my favorite
If I pay someone WoW tokens will you orbit me?
>>148040179
You're welcome. Follow what I and >>148040275 said and just go farm cata raids. It's okay money, and definitely more than you could make from the garrison at this time.
>>148040374
how do we feel about goat legs? should i find a kilt instead?
>>148040495
It would be extremely pathetic.
Gonna dick around with a free month's time troll warlock, druid, or priest? I haven't played since Cata
>>148040589
For me
Will you orbit me?
I picked Shaman and am leveling it for Legion. Have I made a mistake?
good professions for forsaken hunter?
he's 60 and im gonna use the boost on him
>>148040637
No.
>>148038661
Hi friend
>>148040779
Why not?
>>148040650
As someone who switched to shaman mid-WoD and looking more and more forward to shaman in Legion, no.
>>148040684
Skinning/Leatherworking is a classic.
>>148040208
Auto correct.
>>148040179
Just do any last minute stuff before the prepatch hits that'll either be removed or made more difficult. CMs, Moose, etc... and have your gameplan ready for Legion. Start doing research on professions and run Cata raids in the meantime for about 7-8K gold per lockout per character.
>>148040650
shaman are looking good in legion
>>148040684
cant go wrong with ench + tailoring on any class, people always buying bags and enchants
>>148040684
Depends entirely on what you want to do with him and what other classes/professions you do or don't already have.
If you just want to craft some WoD stuff for gear then get leatherworking. If you want to go out into the world and farm for gold then tailoring/enchanting are the best, though hunters aren't all that good at farming mobs.
It really doesn't matter that much at the end of the day though.
>>148040578
Those are alright but these are the best in the game
>did some glory of the raider cheevos for mounts
>had my mailbox full
>didn''t get mounts mailed
g-guys?
Is leveling professions still a colossal drag where you have to farm low level mats or have they changed it?
Would you guys be interested in a wow meetup?
>>148041317
Meta mounts automatically get added now.
>>148041317
they automatically go into your collection now
>>148041317
you lost the mount forever oops
>>148041327
WoD gave every profession catch-ups, but a lot of it is time-gated, so powergrinding to 700 isn't super fast.
>>148020313
The Absolute fucking state of Wrench
>tfw mount rare enough that people are still impressed by it
what's her name /wowg/? You DO have one, right?
>>148041369
There would be no place that could contain the concentrated amount of autism.
Is jewelcrafting any good?
>>148041762
Void Talon, Memereaver, Ji-Kun, and Solar Spirehawk.
>>148041926
WoD JC was shit. It will be shit til Legion. Can't say for how well it will be in Legion
>>148041762
i still ride astral cloud serpent but people stopped noticing it a long time ago
is it that bad
>>148042072
#PutWrenchBackInTheOp
Any /eleshammy/ mains here? What's better to stack on an ele shammy, mastery or multistrike? I don't trust icy veins because they suggest multistrike stacking, but a mastery stacking shammy just outdps'd me, a multistrike shammy.
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