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Previous thread
>>147756216
momboat
>>147895278
But they do it for free
We shouldn't spam the general too much. Lets limit our mombote posting.
![20160704_010330[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OO3buil.jpg "20160704_010330[1].jpg")
>>147895701
From last thread:
No I actually build them, like buy the parts and build them. Here's a terrible phone pic of my NC model in person with a M4A2 sherman in the background.
>>147895769
But she's cute.
>>147895858
O-oh.
>>147895917
Hey we all have hobbies. Also reposting just the fleet pic.
>>147895989
>lego botes
>model botes
>visiting botes
>fapping to botes and botegirls
/wowsg/ is a general for botelovers of all kinds.
>>147896236
We enjoy our thoughts.
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/86534-chinese-live-stream-qa-with-danny/
http://wows.duowan.cn/1607/331940549559.html
Developers have regretted their decision of not implementing submarines. Right now they are looking for a way to introduce submarine to the game, however everything is uncertain at this point.
German tier X battleship's guns are still subject to change, in other words, they may change them to 406mm gun instead of 420mm.
If everything goes okay, German battleships will hit the ST in patch 5.9 and release in patch 5.10.
They may buff US CV's fighters.
They are not going to overhaul the economical system in game right now, but they may indroduce spotting damage (with earning) in the future, and they are still aiming to improve high tier economy.
Dunkirk will be released this year.
It is more fair to have a +/-1 MM, however this will make game less fun, so if you are looking for more balanced games, go play ranks. (eh, but there is no rank mode in Chinese server :P) In the distant futue, if the game is mature enough and have much more players by then, they will consider +/-1 MM.
The problem of Tone is complicate. They will release the tone after they develop a new mechanism for aircraft cruisers.
Kitakami is the only ship that deals more damage to allies than enemies, therefore they removed it from live server. It may become a reward for skilled players in the future.
Apparently, second Japenese DD branch has more priority than US CL branch.
The goal of their development, is to add every famous WW1/WWII ship into the game, thus German carrier Graf Zeppelin will be in the game, not this year though.
Akizuki when?
Played this game some months ago.
Is the aimbot / aim assit still a thing?
Does anyone have a guess what RN cruiser will be added as the first premium? I mean, WG usually adds a premium ship before a new nation/line comes out. Do any RN cruisers tier 5-8 stand out?
>>147897847
>They may buff US CV's fighters.
THIS LITERALLY SOLVES NO PROBLEMS AND WORSENS CURRENT ONES.
NO.
THIS IS NOT HOW YOU BALANCE SHIT.
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE NOT A UNICUM CV PLAYER TELLING THEM TO STOP THIS SHIT AND FIX WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
>>147898089
becasue they dont spend enought shekels to be supertesters
>>147898191
>becasue they dont spend enought shekels to be supertesters
THIS ISNT GOD DAMN ROCKET SCIENCE AND YOU DONT NEED GOOD GOYIM TO BALANCE A GAME. THIS WOULD LITERALLY BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IF THEY BALANCED CVS.
>>147898291
>implying they made the game for people to have fun and not make money
>>147898421
Turkey.
>>147898089
Because the unicum CV players are abusing the class while they can.
>>147898362
>implying they made the game for people to have fun and not make money
IF THE GAME WAS JUST INHERENTLY BALANCED THEN THEY COULD MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WOULDNT QUIT BECAUSE OF BULLSHIT MECHANICS.
WANT SOME GOD DAMN EXAMPLES?
DETONATIONS ARE MORE COMMON BUT ONLY DO ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL HP WHILE CAUSING FLOODING OR FIRE, VERY RARELY BOTH.
BOOM, FLAGS ARE USED EVEN MORE OFTEN BUT DETONATIONS ARENT AS ANNOYING
MAKE AA STRONGER REMOVE SPOTTING RANGE OF PLANES TO ABOUT 5-6 KM WHILE MAKING AA MANUAL AND SKILL BASED WITH A WIND UP TIME.
>>147898559
MOST OF THEM HAVE QUIT AS IT HAS BECOME AN UNFUN CESSPOOL OF SHIT AT HIGHER TIERS.
So, as one that's never used mods outside of casul games, are the UI mods borked till they're updated?
we did it reddit
we finally did it ;_;
>>147899176
>solo warrior and only two kills
>cowardly_mako
>>147898421
none
they're disgusting
>>147899176
Upvoted;_;
>play gunbote Fubuki
>get fucking disintegrated every time I shoot my guns by anything that looks at me except another IJN DD
>play torpedobote Fubuki
>they're spotted from 6 million kilometers away and even Iowas can turn into them before they hit
I don't get it, I had no trouble doing either of these things in Hatsu, why is nothing working now?Is it because I'm still stuck on the stock torps and don't have AFT yet?
>>147899176
You won by points and running away, didn't you?
Solo Warrior should be extra super special if you actually kill the rest of the entire team by yourself.
>>147900657
Won by points 1000 to 994 after killing an enemy Fubuki at 4km, dodging his torps and sitting in smoke 6km away from an enemy New Mexico and a Myoko nearby while on 4k health and no engine while the points ticked off.
>>147900657
I had to do that my last solo warrior in a Ryujo. Raptor had go watch me steamroll the enemy team.
t. anu
>>147900203
>be shit
>be surprised you're shit
Well anon, at least you're starting to slowly realise it.
>>147902246
I was hoping to find a way to be less shit but I guess that works too
>>147898089
Well only having IJN CV players is skewing the fucking shit out of their metrics so this is the most basic change they can implement that THEY hope won't break anything.
In other words - the devs don't play their own game and have no idea whats wrong with their CV gameplay. Either that or they're all hakuryu captains and are giving the most token buff to USN to dampen down the bleating on their forums.
Is CV balance the new arty balance?
>>147903482
how OP is arty in WoT?
t.someone who don't play WoT
>playing wows after the cbt
>>147903446
The devs certainly don't play their own game.
If i remember correctly, there was interview/Q&A with sub-octavian or someone at the minsk office and they said the developer team was "impressed by people who've mastered highertier IJN CV"
So yeah simple is best
t. Mydway
>unicunts division looking for easy wins
Well, too bad they ran into my Ranger. And that Tirpitz too, good job whoever you are.
>>147887108
Is it worth going for a secondary build if you haven't got a 15 point captain?
>>147904181
Even before I got my 15th point, I was farming CQE flags, too. Maybe I was just lucky.
Probably not worth it unless you plan on doing a lot of Ranked or play VERY aggressively in Randoms. There's just little opportunity for you to charge in to caps and engage DDs otherwise. The extra damage from the extra range is nice, though, when you're in a melee against enemy BBs.
>>147903580
It's OP when it one-shots your top tier heavy tank but UP at all other times where aiming times/fire rate ect. + RNG has made it completely useless
>>147904073
they should carry harder :^)
So on Asia, I got this message.
先の戦闘において、マッチメイクに問題 (両チームの艦艇ラインナップが公平ではない) はありましたか?
It's asking if the matchmaking in the last match was fair. Has anyone else had a message like this?
>>147905561
Yes, I've gotten this on the public test NA and SEA
>>147905561
I won a stomp game and I must say it's very balansed)))
>>147905561
Since 0.5.8, the MM is actually very good at balancing ships. Gotta give it to WG, they finally did something good.
>>147903580
8 out of 10, your fully aimed shots miss a stationary tank. Then RNG smiles upon you and you one-shot a moving tank.
It's basically RNG: the class. Only a stupid shitter calls arty OP.
>Skipping Taiho for Haku
or
>Wait for nazi BBs to skip from 8-10
>>147904512
I'll be focusing on Ranked with it once I get my captain retrained. I got up to rank 9 with my Fuso (WR: 0.666…) but I think I've reached its limit.
>>147905561
They surveyed EU two or three weeks ago, haven't seen it recently. They did it on the PT too.
>>147906523
I like the top-tier balancing of BBs, but other than that I think it's too restrictive and makes Randoms more boring.
>tfw when they didn't implement the new MM in Ranked, where it would actually make great sense
>>147907171
Why would you skip Taiha?
>>147907265
This
>>147907265
Because Tier 9 is awkward as fuck to play. Plus, 2/3/3 sounds a like a lot of fun.
>tfw no Graf premium
>>147907445
Skipping the objectively best CV sure is a good idea. Once again wowsg has proved its intelligence.
>>147908316
Then explain to me why it is then. I'm listening.
>>147908436
Why do you think Hakuryuu is superior compared to Taihoe?
This is a legit question; as an IJN CV main, why do people keep insisting this?
>>147908760
>2/3/3 loadout
>stronger planes
>more upgrade slots
>Really good AA
>100 planes
>Cuter
>>147908918
>2/3/2 + ONE DB
>Double the AA (DM Montana Yamato Hind t10 CV)
>same amount of upgrade slots
>same amount of reserver planes
>longer and taller and not as flat
>faces Midway and 422 Hakuryu
You're retarded and haven't thought this through
>>147893478
Nice, have you tried alterning different shades of grey to better set apart hull from superstructures?
Plus i think black / red turret tops would characterize her more.
>>147895862
WHEN IS THIS SHIT COMING TO WEST?
>>147909825
Snever
>skipping anything in the IJN CV line
Why the fuck would you do that? There is ZERO bad ship in that line.
>>147910027
Zuiho is pretty miserable against AS Bogue
>first tier 10 CV captain
>stops playing right after poeple discover how to script manual AA to fire in salvo
>>147910265
>stops playing right after poeple discover how to script manual AA to fire in salvo
Explain this bullshit.
>>147910512
I forgot to quote certain post, but that's probably for the better.
At least I didn't start the shitposting hour.It's not about the WoWS
>get hit by torp
>press r
>flood for 3k damage without realising I pressed R prematurely
>>147910512
something to do with the way controllable AA works in SO I believe. By default it's auto, maybe it can be switched to burst for more alpha or something
>>147910768
>flood for 3k damage
>>147911148
1/5th of dd hp :^)
Ok lads, would you say the current BB lines are "balanced"? Looking at stats worldwide and the BBs from the two lines seem to be fairly matched against each other at the same tier with similar performances. Both have shit T3s, burgers have the better T4, japs have the better T5, T6 and T7 are fairly balanced as is T8, burgers have the better T9 and nips have the better TX.
>>147912615
I don't think that's how balance works anon
>>147912615
South Carolina is a lot better than Kawachi, but other than that, I agree.
>>147912715
Ok poor choice of words there but at the very least there doesn't seem to be a tier where one nation's BB is performing exceedingly worse compared to its counterpart asides from T9.
mfw see 2 CV in queue but game has none.
>>147913243
>mfw I'm AA spec. Atlanta and the game has no CVs
>serverwide avg dmg for Atlanta is 23k
>>147913852
Without DE it does kinda shit damage to BBs
but when you get under 10km with AP to anything
oh my god...
Any leaked stats yet?
>>147914275
Yes.it's shitor at least T10
>>147914010
success in the Atlanta is 40% balls, 60% RNG for fires. But you do have to put yourself into potentially life threatening situations to pull off big dmg numbers, and I think that's part of the fun of Atlanta.
>tfw you surprise a DD at 4km
>tfw you're circling around an island just slow enough to shower a Nagato with HE while he can't even hit you
>tfw oblivious Nicholas sails in straight line and eventually allows you to zero in on him at 10km
>>147914275
Where were you last thread?
>>147914275
Have you tried looking?
>>147914367
>tfw you come around the corner next to tirpitz facing guns other way
>tfw you shower him on superstructure with AP every 4.5 seconds
>all that while thunderstruck is playing
this is probably the only money I don't regret giving to WG
Refer A Friend for SEA when?
i'm struggling to figure out when the fuck to use AP shells in my Kongo
it feels like at least 3/5 of my shots either over or underpen regardless of what i'm shooting at
what am i doing wrong here, and can i please get a little bit of in depth advice
>>147915149
Everything except DDs in my experience. Aim for those delicious citadels and hope you hit. You'll generally get enough collateral to make it worth.
>At least, that's what I do.
>>147915149
You don't get many shots, so make them count: don't take a shot against an armoured target if you can't hit broadside. If you're at the edge of your range, aim a bit above the waterline for deck penetrations.
>>147915149
You shoot AP at everything except Destroyers. Aim for the enemy's waterline since citadels are usually under water. Unless it's a warspite.
if it's a new mex or a colorado, don't bother aiming for a citadel, and shoot above it's armour belt. New Mex and Colorado use what's called "all or nothing" armour schemes, which means their citadels are thick af. but everywhere else is weak.
The only instance you are shooting HE at targets is at DD's and maybe when another BB is giving you nothing to shoot at. (i.e, constantly keeping their armour angled against you)
>>147915634
>>147916118
>>147915776
thats the thing though, i am using AP against everything but DD's and most of the time even on a broadside i'll get 2 overpenatrations for 2000 damage and thats it
>>147916423
you should post a replay that way arlios can help you get betterpft
>>147916423
Shit happens, get in closer. Kongou's effective range where you can start seeing consistent results is anywhere between 14-8km Too close and your turrets can't turn fast enough.
>>147916423
That's the nature of shooting at low tier cruisers with big guns. It getsslightlybetter.
Post your oldest screenshot.
>>147917035
Now that I remember it took them entire CBT and OBT to put division chat in game.
>>147917035
>breaking nda
engoy your ban faglord
>>147917090
Don't forget the side panels.
>>147917245
Sup umi
I don't need a tirpitz anymore, someone else donated it to me :^)(^:
What do you think of the recent shitposting?
>>147917714
I've always been here though. And it's not as bad as /a/'s Kancolle thread a few months ago.
>>147917035
My name was too lewd
>>147916561
Arlios browses /wowsg/?
>>147918032
I lurk more often than not, but I do participate in conversations here and there.
>>147918103
Aw shit senpai, love your vids.
Have another Kongou for shitposting.
>>147918103
>here and there
>there
300, I'm up for div if you're there
Why is she best boat?
>>147918312
Yep I'm there
>>147919220
gonna finish the battle and Inv you
>>147918975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hm8os3UG34
>>147918975
>>147919462
Das rite, how can white ships even compete?
>>147918975
I honestly don't know why there is no hull option. she's far better than shitty hotel.
Good morning /wowsg/, may you have a nice and relaxing weekend!
>play my emden to get ez kills
>get maybe 1-2 kills a game, sometimes none
>play my minekaze instead
>get 4-5 kills in multiple games, usually 1-2 but almost never none
Curious
Maybe tier 2 is just full of others trying to get ez kills
>>147919986
Well, Yamato ingame has basically Musashis refit anyway. I would prefer a Hull A with less AA and the 2x3 155mm turrets.
>>147920020
Sealclubbers everywhere because of the event that requires 150 kills for some meme ship.
>>147920078
*4x3
>>147920163
Well, that was implied that she would get 2 additional triple turrets to the ones she already has but yeah.
Does anyone else just not gel at all with cruiser gameplay?
I can play DDs, BBs and CVs but I just hate cruisers
I also disliked mediums in World of Tanks
>>147920317
Once you get good at bullying BBs it's very fun.
>>147920317
I can agree with you there mostly.
Some cruisers i am okay with but overall i hate it that i am a floating citadel but i do have good games.
Depending on the ship i will just stay out of range or try and bully other cruisers up close for those easy citadels.
>KM T10 BB
>88k hp
>25% torpedo bulge
>1050 turning circle
laughing_shimakaze.jpg
>>147920582
it's meant to fight up close, don't worry about it
>>147920495
>i hate it that i am a floating citadel
play glorius soviet navy, comrade. They have cruisers, without citadelor filthy capitalistic Cleveland
>>147920660
It still has to get there.
>>147920691
I have Cleveland, i do not think i have played any of the soviets yet and do not intended to.
>>147920852
don't worry about it
>>147920969
>and do not intended to.
why you don't want to play Glorius Soviet Navy, Comrade? Father of nation disapproves this decision. You want to go to GULAG?I also don't play Soviet Cruiser[/spooiler]
>>147920317
It's a class that have highest skill cap in the game. A good cruiser player need to have mechanical skill of a StarCraft player and intelligence of a chess player.:^)
>>147921206
Or just use HE and press left mouse button
>>147921149
The Soviets in this game do not intrest me, bad enough they were put in ahead of the RN but also ship wise nothing special really.
DD are outclassed bu US for gun boats and IJN for stealth boats.
Cruisers same again, between 3 other countries they offer better ships in general.
>>147921628
But the Russians have better__________
>>147921776
fire chance and velocity?
>>147920317
I have no clue how to play lights and mediums in World of Tanks but at least I can pull my weight as a cruiser.I don't understand how to play Furutaka though.
Do people on wowsg usually censor their names in the screenshots?
>>147922061
no unless you want to attract more attention
>>147922061
As long as you don't blog about it, no one will bother you about it.
>burgers have the best dd line wih good guns AND good torps
>BB lines are no longer lopsided to IJN, excellent choices at 6, 7, 8 and 9
>decent cruiser line up till t6, subpar high tiers, excellent TX
Discounting the CV line, I'm actually kinda glad USN as a whole is faring better than it did last time.
>>147922662
>burgers
>good torps
haha ok sweetie xx
>>147922745
But their torps are pretty gud Mahan onwards.
>>147923107
If by 'pretty gud' you mean 'strictly inferior'
>>147922540
>>147922625
I see. Thanks for the help.
So were waiting on 0.5.10 for the German BB's but what about the Scharnhorst do you guys think it will come out with 0.5.9 or will
they hold it back for the krazy kraut hype train?
>>147923791
They should release the t3 one first just to build hype and have many people ready for t4
>>147922662
>He thinks Pepsi and n'Orleans are bad
>>147925393
but then you risk people blowing their load early and not wanting to cash out for scharn
>>147923435
>If by 'pretty gud' you mean 'strictly inferior'
Maybe if radar didn't exist.
>messing around in my Minekaze
>get this message
ahaha ah yes, this is why we play
>>147925718
Pepsi and Nawlins are bad only if you don't WASD hax. Those guns are absolute sex. Sure, it's not as good as its IJN counterparts at bullying BBs, but nothing quite salvos of 6 bow-forward AP shells at enemy cruisers while his shells bounce harmlessly off your bow.
>>147926095
It's actually funny looking at the players with the highest WTR and just how much statpadding those guys do in Minekaze.
>This meta
>>147926551
>English Singapore
>>147926342
Who cares about stats man it's an autistic bote game that nobody plays
>>147926551
>Mahan
You are part of the problem.
>>147926551
Lost my first star at rank 8 because shit team.
>>147921776
>>147921968
Win-rate, average damage and K/D ratio?
So, german BBs next update confirmed?
Also, next update when?
>>147927257
Not until Gamescom, which is at the end of August, I believe?
Is very important to be makings big announcement at trade event, tovarisch
What is a good spam ship for the Arp missions
>>147928426
Any 10/12 gun cruiser.
>>147926551
Yeah, it's alln le invisifiring gunbote meta in EU too.
90 kills left to go until that Mikasa desu
>>147928624
>kill mission again
Have WG not learned the lesson from Project R?
so why do my torpedo bombers sometimes randomly switch to a wide spread and how the fuck can i fix it
>>147929106
That means they are under panic or whatever from getting rekt
>>147929106
Probably enemy fighters attacking your bombers or some nearby cruiser using defensive AA fire skill.
>>147928959
You mean ARP Kongo/Myoko, right? Project R was pearls.
>>147928624
When do those missions end? I want to know if I have enough time to catch up.
>>147929468
>When do those missions end?
August
>>147929589
August 1 or end of August? This is important.
>>147929468
>You mean ARP Kongo/Myoko, right? Project R was pearls.
Was it? All I remember is people are complaining that everyone is "stealing their kills" or some shit.
>>147929748
People complain about KS in literally every game ever
Maryland final hull for Colorado when.
>>147929748
The ARP ones were the kill 30 DDs/cruisers ones.
>>147929748
>All I remember is people are complaining that everyone is "stealing their kills" or some shit.
In ARP mission on EU we had 30 destroyer kills, and 30 cruiser. Man that was annoying.
>>147929337
>>147929381
ah, thanks
never saw that mentioned anywhere
>>147930000
That mast and those 5 inch turrets...
Which was the other pre-war USN BB that was refitted similarly with the newer 5 inch double mounts?
>>147930369
Why is Foobookee purelewd
>Accidently bring my myouko into ranked
Fuck u snsd
>>147929818
Well at least in WOWS there's only 1 really important reward for getting kills (the kraken). All other meaningful rewards come from dealing damage. While things like arsonist and witherer are in a catagory all their own their bonuses are kind of nebulous and easily mitigated.
>>147930602
The West Virginia was refitted pretty similarly to the Maryland and got the 5" guns as well.
>>147930790
It's a 100% win for you come on m8
>>147920495
If you're getting citadeled you're playing CAs wrong.
The foundation of CAs gameplay is good positioning, looking unoffensive and sailing together with allies.
CAs are the true support class of WoWs, alone you're easily crippled but if you sail along with other classes or even other cruisers your abilities and firepower greatly enhances that of others.
>>147931414
Nagato has 96k hp truly fair and balanced.
>>147932416
That's a dreadnought DENIED
so when they add her. how bad will she club her tier?
>>147930602
Nevada too
>>147932416
bretty gud
>>147933361
In theory she will be worse than her german and US and IJN counterpart since she came first and was a test bed for tech, not a refinement thereof.
>>147933361
Not that hard really. Shes still slow, she has relatively thin armor, her secondaries are just as bad as Soccerballs.
>>147933723
whatever dude. germans stole turtle back btw
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/86107-midways-do-exist/page__pid__2112140#entry2112140
Check this shit out.
>>147909825
The arcade game? Never, best to hope for a PC/Console port and play it that way.
>>147934427
Okay, you say that like that equals them being worse at it? Alls fair in love and war. Its why you don't want to be first, you let the tech come out, then buy it and refine it cheap. I cant wait for Dreadnought, and will definitely keep it in my port even if its worse than the Kawachi, which it surely will be. I think her speed will be the only special thing at Tier 3 bb's since the other countries did not use Steam Turbines yet.
>>147934427
Turtle decks have existed since the 1880's
>>147935457
>English
>imperial measurements
so you agree the germans stole it from us glorious and noble anglos?
>>147931427
When i play my BB i will hit any CAs i see since i can get a decent shot of getting a citadel.
Sure you do have to WASD alot and generally fire from behind a bunch of other ships so they do not hit you instead.
That's why you dont show your sweet broadside and lose the game. Not like it mattered tho since 2k hp lmao.
![John_Fisher_rear_admiral_1894[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uqcX8Km.jpg "John_Fisher_rear_admiral_1894[1].jpg")
>>147933731
>tfw they put small guns on your all-big-gun ship
Seriously though,
>Secondaries mattering at T3
>>147936083
Well I mean that's from an American newspaper...
wow newfag here
Battleships or cruisers?
Is germany worth it?
>>147937023
yes
maybe
>>147937023
Do you like cute aryan girls or spunky jap ladies
>>147934980
Houshou is the bestest waifu.
>>147937201
Indeed
>>147936620
Them torpedo boats though. Yes in WOWs its DD's that fill that role but in reality the zerg rush of torp boats was a real threat. So a few QF guns on the turrets went in a long was to mitigate that.
>>147937150
Tough question
Why is the Kawachi such suffering
>>147937514
Semi-dreadnoughts are.
>>147937514
My best memory of the game was in the Kawachii desu
Last man standing, 1 v 3d a team of South Carolina's at the end of the game and won as my dead team cheered me on.
Kawachi is comfy.
>>147937514
I got my first double kill from the Kawachi. Fired just as I drove into another BB for a ram, and shells killed another bb with very low health.
>>147937384
Yeah I think it's a bit weird that Dreadnought is hailed as ushering in an age of all-big-gun ships when everyone else continued to mount significant secondary batteries. It was really the age of 'many-big-gun' ships.I said secondaries didn't matter in T3, not real life, you big dummy-head.
>>147938234
All big gun refered less to, ONLY big gun, but no intermediate guns. 4-5'' guns were always considered small, the difference was that BB's mounted 5, 6, and 8 inch guns regularly alongside their 10 inch guns. All big gun did away with the 6 and 8 inch, and in their physical place, put more 10 inch. Think of it in terms of tanks. Many early tank designs had lots of different calibre guns mounted, with machine guns as well. Later, they did away with other cannon, stuck with 1 main large gun but kept a number of MG's for personal defense. Same concept. Tank and BB evolution is closely tied.
>4 × 12 in (305 mm)/45 cal Mark 5 guns
>8 × 8 in (203 mm)/45 caliber guns
>12 × 7 in (178 mm)/45 caliber guns
>20 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 caliber guns
CONNECTICUT WHEN?
>>147938749
You mean Iowa when?
>>147938749
with second BB line
>>147937514
Because it has no range and it can't hide either. The best you can hope to do is emerge from behind an island and get to work on a BB that's already engaging an ally. Don't research anything but the B hull and move on.
>>147937792
Kawachi's a dreadnought. You're thinking of Satsuma.
>>147938749
I just wish they'd activate St. Louis' smaller secondaries. They're present on the ship model already.
>>147938749
It sorta is. Play the Mikasa. Most pre-dreadnoughts handled the same. The tech had stagnated in favor of numbers at that time.
>>147939032
>Don't research anything but the B hull and skip the Myogi.
FIFY
>>147939032
>Semi-dreadnoughts classes included the British King Edward VII and Lord Nelson; Russian Andrei Pervozvanny; Japanese Katori, Satsuma, and Kawachi;
>Gardiner, Robert; Lambert, Andrew, eds. (2001). Steam, Steel and Shellfire: The Steam Warship 1815–1905. Conway's History of the Ship.
>>147939032
>I just wish they'd activate St. Louis' smaller secondaries. They're present on the ship model already.
Most ships in game have secondaries modeld that dont fire. Especially at lower tiers but even at higher tiers.
>>147939032
Kawachi is counted as a semi-dreadnought because the Japanese were poor niggers and couldn't afford to buy guns of all the same caliber.
The fore and aft turret guns are 50 calibers long, and the wing turret guns are 45 calibers long.
>>147939602
Well its a semi-dreadnought. The reason why is a judgement call so who cares. Nothing wrong with being a semi-dreadnought, but it does explain part of its problems in game. Also the fact it didnt use steam turbines doesnt help.
>>147897971
BELFAST FOR T8, DO IT FAGGOTS
Premium Vittorio Veneto when?
>>147940403
When you model, texture, animate, balance and send it to WG ofc.
>>147937023
Either's fine
No. The germans have at present, the worst cruiser line and it looks as if their BB line will suck too.
>>147939418
>>147939724
>The Kawachi class was ordered …as Japan's first dreadnoughts,[1]
>Lengerer, Hans (September 2006). Ahlberg, Lars, ed. "Battleships Kawachi and Settsu". Contributions to the History of Imperial Japanese Warships (Paper I): 66–84.t. Wikipedia
>>147939602
>As well as being defined as "the diameter of a gun barrel's bore", 'calibre' may also refer to the ratio of the above defined dimension to the length of the barrel
I hate words sometimes.
Any update on the rumour that USN fighters are getting buffed?
>>147940670
>balance
done
see? Didn't took me that long :^)
Marblehead or Murmansk?
>>147941437
Murmansk you insufferable little piece of shit
Going back to wow after some months, which nation has the best cruisers now?
I remember being traumatized by the shittyness of the karlshue i even stopped playing
>>147941437
>Yankeedoodledickbutt or RUSSIASTRONK?
Do you really need it spelled out for you Anon?
Who /justrammedaScharnhost/ here?
>>147941437
Murmansk, easily.
>>147941579
Soviet Balans)))))
>>147940403
>Vittorio Veneto
Speaking of spaghetti ships. I wonder how their BB tree is going to work. Littorio is obviously tier 8 material,Andrea Doria and Conte di Cavour classes could both fit in tier 4 or 3 depending on how much of their modernizations WG includes, but tier 5 and 6 are kind of a toss up given the general lack of BBs with guns larger than 12 inches in the Italian navy pre-Littorio. They could put the Francesco Caracciolo class as a tier 7, but I have no idea what ships they would use for tier 9 and 10.
>>147941482
I aint that Nelson fella ya cunt.
>>147941601
I liked the Omaha, i feel i could make the Marblehead work since i have the Atlanta already but the Murmansk is another Omaha and is the C-Hull.
>>147941630
3-0 Murmansk
>>147942024
>but I have no idea what ships they would use for tier 9 and 10.
Neither does WG, until they find them in Russian napkin archives.
So now that we know Strasbourg is probably going to be France's Tier 6, are you ready for the orkiest tier 7 known to man?
>16x 340mm guns
>>147942186
>previously unknown design of anything
>found in russian archives of historical accurates))))
Wow, WG must be really good at finding things that no one else has in the past 70 years
>>147942545
Easy to find those sekret historic documents when you have a time machine.
>>147936218
Don't get me wrong, you will sometimes get citadeled even if you do everithing according the plan, it's inevitable, though there's a way to play CAs that greatly reduces the probability you'll get citadeled.]
>>147942415
What the fuck is up with the French and their obsession with quadruple turrets?
>>147942024
Honestly, the italians went through so many designs for the Littorio class over a period of 12 years that they could fill half the holes with Littorio class prototypes alone.
>The first Italian design, prepared in 1928, called for a 23,000 long tons (23,000 t) ship armed with a main battery of six 381 mm (15.0 in) guns in twin turrets.[2]
Tier 6, having half the guns of Fusou and New Mex will somewhat compensate for its higher caliber.
>Later in 1928, the design staff prepared another ship, with a displacement of 35,000 long tons (36,000 t), armed with six 406 mm (16.0 in) guns and protected against guns of the same caliber.
Might be underpowered for Tier 7 but everyone needs a Kawachi.
>The Italian Navy decided that the smaller design was impractical, and that a larger design should be pursued. A 26,500 long tons (26,900 t) design was then prepared, which mounted eight 343 mm guns in twin turrets.[7]
Tier 5. Hatsuharu was built after Fubuki and precedes it, so dates don't matter.
>This was ultimately abandoned in favor of a 35,000 ton design to be armed with 406 mm guns.[8]
Tier 9.
>>147942789
Saves a lot of weight for more armor and/or staying within Washington Navy Treaty limits without lying out of your ass (i.e. Japan, Germany). Quad turrets will probably be the French national peculiarity, since there's a ship to fill every tier between 5 and 9 with quad guns.
>>147940776
I disagree on german cruisers, they're pretty all rounded and fill the cruiser role nicely, if only their HE damage and krupp was upped of a good 20% they'll be very good.
Currently german BBs look far worse than german cruisers.
>tfw sail into a literal wall of torpedoes
A div of Invisitorpers is quite possibly the most cancer thing ever, because they can cover any possible escape route with MORE TORPEDOES!
>>147943095
Definetly not for starters though, i suggest going with USN CAs for a first playthrough at least until tier 6 so that you can understand the game mechanics, then switch to anything you like.
>>147943372
IJN CAs are a better starter line since they're actually good past t5
![Courbet_class_diagrams_Brasseys_1912[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3Qk2ivc.jpg "Courbet_class_diagrams_Brasseys_1912[1].jpg")
>>147942415
France's first dreadnought looks interesting.
6 turrets like the Kawachi and Nassau, but with a 10 gun broadside instead of a 8 gun. Also, preddy fast with 21 knots. Shame that the armor is utter ass.
>>147941437
Marblehead is a slightly worse Omaha with curiously long range torpedoes.
Murmansk is an Omaha buffed to stupidity and given a spotter plane.dat rudder shift ))))))
Ohio guys. How should I play NY
>>147944378
Try to get to mid range so you can shred shit, and cry as a Texas does everything you do, but better.
>>147943075
>Washington Navy Treaty limit
>Germany
Nope.
Germany never signed that, which caused unending asshurt when they built a 11" gun cruiser.
It is rather hilarious how France first went to incredible lenghts to limit Germany to 10k ton ships, and then Britain fucks up their plans by forcing everyone to stick to 10 k ton cruisers with 8" guns.
>>147944528
>Germany never signed that
true, but was imposed anyway to all the nations in the world
>>147943672
That's how I see the whole French BB tree, especially since they put the Dunkerque in as their first premium. Fast ships, with shit armor, and lots of Dakka.
>>147943095
German cruisers are mediocre, german BBs look somewhere between shit and mediocre.
The lower tiers look OK, though.
>>147944528
They never signed it because they were limited by the Treaty of Versailles already.
>>147944528
Germany agreed to adhere to the terms of the Washington Naval Conference through the Anglo-German Naval Treaty.
