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Previous mission >>147635319
News:
1)Long War Studios have just released their Laser Weapons Pack and Perk Pack.
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=712967878
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=719109968
2)Shen's Last Gift DLC Released!
3)XCOM 2 officially coming to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 on September 6th.
>https://twitter.com/XCOM/status/740181548419272705
4) Julian Gollop is working on his new game Phoenix Point. It's a turn-based tactical game with strategy elements, destructible terrain, geoscape and character progression much akin to XCOM. Lobstermen are confirmed.
>https://twitter.com/Phoenix_Point
>http://www.phoenixpoint.info/
>http://www.pcgamer.com/julian-gollop-announces-new-game-phoenix-point/
The /xcg/ Mandatory Read:
>http://pastebin.com/k9pT8zx4
Piratez mod for OpenXCom: http://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,3626.0.html
<<Helpful XCOM 2 Links!>>
Assorted improvements (Skip intros, alleviate stuttering, multi monitor support, and resolutions past 1080p)
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=616682629
XCOM2 NEW AND IMPROVED MODLIST, updated regularly:
>http://pastebin.com/pTMatP5Z
NEW MEGA MOD LIBRARY - Contains all 180 mods from the new modlist:
>https://mega.nz/#F!HlgWjCqR!STJ0c0kW8Fs6jKynqKyerw
/xcg/'s Long War Library (New LW players read this shit or you will be ignored):
>http://pastebin.com/YmaXBKpN
Image Library of /xcg/:
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
Music for slaying the ayy away:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLC55FOUCI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0xBCwkg3E
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TzUNti3rY
Laser pistols are useful
>snek removal in the OP pic
Good thread
>>147845798
>1 point more damage than Tier 2
>Just as much research as any other weapon tier
Why even fucking bother
>>147845798
third for OP a shit, sneks are for huggingjk, love you bb <3
>>147845968
>How do I edit the .ini
>what are modded campaigns
>>147846058
I can edit the .ini to do anything. That still doesn't change that the intended release is basically pointless in game outside of having a fancy new weapon model that shoots lasers. The LW is notorious for doing their best to make things not useful or able to fill any tactic.
Do you change your psionics to have their original hair colour or do you keep them as animes?
Do any mod authors have plans to release the XCOM EU Tier 1 armors? I miss the original armor design and the Resistance Warrior looks fucked up and ultimately dumb.
>>147846346
anime
>>147846280
>That still doesn't change that the intended release is basically pointless in game outside
Yeah and? Vanilla XCOM2 wasn't made with more then 3 weapon tiers in mind. These aren't made to mesh perfectly in the vanilla game, why would they?
The point of this is to release LASER WEAPONS. What people want to do with them is up to them. I don't really know what your talking about, its a weapons cosmetic mod, not a balance mod.
>>147846346
About a coinflip. Just depends on what I want for that soldier.
>>147846483
I'm sure the same guy is working on it, they just priotized T2 and T3, since X2 T1 has the strongest cosmetics and most choices.
Anyone else have their uniform manager mod break with the new LW mods?
PAY RESPECTS TO SNIPER KILLING SHIV FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS
>use the combine voice pack
>every line feels sensible, yet I can't understand it
This must be what English sounds like to non-English speakers.
>>147846939
RIP hero shiv
you will ride eternal, shiny and chrome.
>>147846939
They had it carry an explosive in. Why not put a remote-controlled gun on them instead so they don't have to waste the robot by exploding it?
>>147847316
Probably time constraints. If it wasn't set up that way from the start they weren't going to waste time setting it up while there's an active shooter. That's just a guess.
>>147847316
>Risking shooting him when a explosive is guaranteed to kill him
Do you play in easy modo?
>>147846346
They're not anime enough. I usually change them to bright blue or purple.
>>147846346
I use the SSJ hair mod for them
>>147847501
And then spend exorbitant amounts to fix it/make a new one.
>>147847490
I mean, just as a general design. A shooty robot seems like a generally good idea for single-suspect situations.
>>147847316
To destroy the explosives on the guy, it was going to have to be done either way. They do that a lot with those bots.
>>147847841
>shooty robot
I don't think police forces really have those. They probably sent in something like an EOD bot a bomb squad would have (Heh, the potential irony).
>>147847316
So they could name it FRAG-E posthumously.
>>147845562
I don't see what how battlescanner change was a fiasco, clearing half the pods without having to engage them is broken.
Only change I disliked was the infinite drone repairs, that was a minor neat trick that felt like it got removed just to spite beagle.
>>147848574
The "solution" was ridiculous. You also hardly cleared half the pods, it was a good tactic, not a foolproof way to break the game.
Post more imaginary arguments between JL and Jake
Reposting unless that one anons right about it being bust with SLG
Think I'm gonna do a LWS playthrough now they got a decent bit out.
Gimme some Toolbox options to use
Has anyone gotten anything useful from the Daiz name generator? I remember one or two people in the thread used it last year, but when I tried it on long war all my soldiers got the same name (even though I typed in multiple).
How is it supposed to work exactly? Assuming I do get it working I'll still only come up with 100 names or so, on an 80-soldier barracks that will create a lot of dupes.
>>147849016
It worked for me, so honestly not sure what is wrong on your end. I was playing B15 at the time though, but really it should work fine for 1.0.
>>147848574
It was a good tactic, yes, but clearing maps? The only way you can achieve that is with the vast majority of your squad being snipers, which will present a whole new plethora of problems. JLs reaction was overblown and would completely fuck things over. The change that was eventually settled on(missed shots trigger pods), should have been the first thing on the table.
Who do you equip the bolt caster on? On the specialist is tempting, but the reloads get in the way of the spec's abilities that only cost a single action, they're the go to guy for a stock and guardian obviously needs more than one shot.
>>147849257
Didn't they also reduce how many battle-scanners you could carry?
>Install Xpiratez
>Only go on missions when you feel like it.
>Sit back and chill, micro managing everything.
>Huge tech tree ranging from stone age weapons and muskets all the way to plasma.
I didn't realize Xcom could be so comfy.
>>147849225
What's the end effect? You input 50 names, all your will have one of those 50 names, correct? And you probably need to do some manual renaming after to remove dupes?
>>147849716
Yes. It is the comfiest.
>>147849764
Yep. It just replaces the file with the default xcom namelist with your own.
Oh man that perk pack looks fucking sick
Too bad I can't play the fucking game thanks to pure virtual crash. Fucking Jake. I just want to make cool looking units and murder ayys
If I disable SLG it just disables the story mission? All I need is to build the PG and have the resources? Seems easier than slogging through that mission pre-mag'n'plate.
>>147850308
Uh, to build a Spark I mean.
Meme
>>147850759
Jake?
>>147849945
Thanks, guess I'll try it again later then. I'm on a fresh install so it may work.
This can only end well.
>>147851385
>Trying to stealth Blacksite
ITS A TRAP AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I would know.
>>147851385
>AHHH FRANKIE SINATRA
>>147851637
>tfw you successfully stealth a Blacksite with a 6-man squad
>Install Laser weapons mod
>Play on a current campaign
>Can only build the laser shotgun and sniper rifle, when I just wanted the laser rifle and lmg
Damn it.
>>147851918
Was it legendary?
>>147851385
But the patrols know where you're going and will target your ass as they move around. Stealthing that shit is borderline suicide
rip anon
ATTENTION EVERYONE
LWS' Alien Pack should be released within a week or two, so if you're thinking of starting new playthroughs it would make sense to wait for that to come out as well.
By the way, LWS' own game is currently on hiatus while they work on X2 stuff, and remember that they have one more big magnificent mod coming after the Alien Pack. It won't be soon, so you shouldn't wait for it right now, but it should be a lot of fun when it eventually does.
>>147851637
I tried. I failed.
>>147852150
An attempt was made.
>>147851385
This went well.
>>147851637
>>147851918
>Stealth blacksite
>Not going in with 6 grenadiers, exploding your way thorough the walls.
It's even better on avatar facility missions, when you can drop an evac zone in the middle of the facility if you blow the roof off first.
>>147852332
Source? Proof? Are you Long War?
>>147852332
>one more big magnificent mod
LW2 please
Thank you hidden LW member
>>147852453
Source is LWS dev from X2 modding chat
And the final mod I mentioned was announced at the same time as the three current ones (Laser Pack, Perk Pack, Alien Pack): http://www.longwarstudios.com/news.htm
>>147852363
>2 panicked
>1 stabilized
This was a good idea.
>>147852928
Yeah, knew about the Alien Pack , was more of the timing I was curious about. Thanks for the info.
>>147852952
And so now I have two half-dead soldiers being carried to EVAC.
Alas, poor Smokey. His last words were, "Holy fuck, they're fuckin' us over!"
How very astute.
MEMES COMMANDER
>>147854086
don't leave us hanging nigga
do they make it?
>>147854416
Are you asking the Commander about memes, are you declaring yourself the Memes Commander, or are you asking for the Memes Commander to reply to you?
>>147854686
At least there will be someone to remember them.
Meme until your hearts content commander.
Post brave advent peacekeepers
Reminder that Garth is a faggot
>>147856040
no u
>>147856156
Jake > Garth
How does A Better Advent interact with Improved AI? Does Improved AI fuck with some ABA units?
If they do, then I'd rather just get one instead of just causing conflicts. ABA is the better one here, right?
>>147856246
But why are they competing?
>>147856441
There can only be one memes commander
>>147854921
;_;7Don't stealth
>>147856853
muck femes
>>147849945
>eurofighter
>>147857195
Hi Garth
>>147855629
>>147857437
>tfw you get the runs while on patrol
>>147857119
If only I had known. Gone but not forgotten.At least I saved the axes.
>>147857437
Fuck off xscum
>>147857904
Say that to my face you god damn ayy
Is Jake going to strip on camera again?
>>147858243
Hopefully
What was that russian (I think) steam workshop mirror site?
Fuk this game. 4 88% chances to hit miss and now they are all fukkin dead. Fuk
/xcg/ modders, I have a question for you.
How hard would it be to add a new enemy using a completely new set of animations? Or, failing that, a new enemy that uses gremlin animations?
>>147859994
I haven't seen a single custom animation/animation replacer yet. Even the combat knife just uses the Advent Stun Trooper stab. Enemy that uses Gremlin animations is plausible though.
>>147860478
Sassy Snake though.
>>147846939
>>147847194
Uh? What happened?
>>147860689
kek, was about to say the same thing. I'm glad modders have their priorities in order
>>147860689
The SDK is completely shit, so either he lucked out and got his to import or he used some other unreal editor. I've tried to import animations myself and they all just crash the SDK.
>>147860734
5 police killed, 11 injured by a jackass trying to snipe with an AR at a police brutality rally. Was killed by a robot with an explosive.
>>147860734
some shitter was shooting cops in Dallas and the police blew the sniper up with a bomb rigged to a robot
>>147860734
gunman on a rooftop fired on police at a black lives matter protest and the police cornered one and blew them up with a robit
>>147860858
>>147860879
>>147860916
I was really living under a rock this entire morning.
>>147861730
it happens
>I can make a decent recreation of my favorite robot design
10/10I wish there was more SPARK customization.
>>147863048
dont we all
>>147863048
We just need to bring back the old mec minigun
>>147865237
I'd take bald guy over the choices we have now anyday
post operatanOr just general action shots.
>>147867043
Is that the SCAR H
>>147867191
HK417 or something like that
>>147867191
No becauseI haven't actually gotten it to work yet. I think there's a mod confliction. Kraut Space AR instead.
This was a good squad. RIP that save game.
Beagle's are live
>>147869824
Good.
>>147868101
>>Losing good men and woman to a corrupt save.
Life is Harsh.
F
>>147869824
>beagle is just ignoring the two dlcs
Why even bother?
>>147870583
>dlc
I didn't think anyone cared to be honest.
>>147845798
>typo finally fixed
>LW news addedstrange taste in the 3rd song, butpraise OP.
>>147856040
Rude.
>>147856246Though I agree.
>>147857904
Is this OC?
>>147849945
The absolute comfiest.
I feel like experiencing some long dong in this game. Namely engagements, dread, magnificence, and the combat generally scaled up by 10.
So far, this is what I'm eyeing for the modlist.
>A Better Advent + ABA: Better Pods
The core of the magnificence.
>Long War Lasers and Perk Pack
For a complete class overhaul and new tier of shit.
>Grenade Damage Falloff
Giving explosives a much needed nerf
>Configurable Mission Timers
Probably set to something really high. I have no idea how long battles will be but I imagine damn long.
>Grimy's Loot Mod
Extra customization and shit to work with, why not?
>Larger Starting Squad
Starts at 6, upgradable to 8. Seems fine.
Besides just various quality of life mods, what other gameplay changing mods could be thrown into the mix?
>>That XCOM Salute in the LZ
Sides.
Destroyed.
>>147870884
>>147852332
You might want to wait. Up to you though.
EW Mec weapons when?
>>147871226
I suppose, oh well.
I'd still appreciate suggestions so I don't have to fiddle around in the future
>>147871704
You can always check out Guerilla War (in alpha, but still very functional). It gets rid of mission timers for all missions, but instead more and more ADVENT reinforcements drop in as the mission progresses.
>>147870792
>Is this OC?
Nope, but its old. I think this was saved before XCOM 2 was even released
Just want to commend Mercenary weapons anon. They look excellent in action. Love the electrical at startup.
>>147860916
damn what a time to be alive
i for one look forward to our robot overlords
>>147867043
>>147867365
>>147867672
>>147868101
You know, as much as the action cam (and the camera work in general) might mess up on occasions by pointing at a wall or whatever, it really does add a ton of impact and value into the XCOM experience.
And for all its faults the work Firaxis has done to support modding in X2 is also a beautiful thing, because man, I really couldn't imagine running the game without a large chunk of customization mods (or other mods for that matter) anymore.
Things are pretty good these days.
>>147873424
Sometimes I wonder if people don't realize Firaxis partnered with Long War Studios to bring us free DLC. Literally free content.
>start up a campaign using new long war shit
>loads of classes and perks are fun as fuck
>realize I only want long dong in the X2 engine
help.
>>147873846
Patience is the only thing that can help you now.
>>147873424
I fucking hate the action cam. It's the first thing I turn off.
It wastes so much time.
>>147873590
It's a pretty nice thing all in all for sure. LWS is getting to work relatively close to Firaxis itself and being paid for it, which they certainly deserve after Long War and the incredible long tail EU/EW got out of their efforts, and us users get what is indeed pretty much free DLC as a result, and they also provide sources and allow other modders to reuse their stuff with attribution.
Pretty much the only downside is that because they're working officially with 2K/Firaxis, all their development is pretty much under NDA until release which means they can't really collaborate and coordinate with other modders, leading to overlapping work (like how LWS built their own custom mod menu stuff whereas modders otherwise had been doing the same as well). But really, the same issues go for modders working together with Firaxis itself, so it's not actually that much different. And ultimately LWS' work benefits modders anyway because they are in the best position to get Firaxis to make the game itself more and more modding-friendly.
So, terror from the deep/apocalypse when
also i can't be the only one who is suffering from LWTB fucking up and disappearing, even when it loaded just fine before, whenever i try to increase the squad size and go on a mission, right?
>>147874239
>LWTB
Many anons a numbers of time have reported its broken. It hasn't been updated for the latest DLC.
>>147874402
then why the hell would longdong studios make their latest mod contingent on it if it's fucking busted?
>>147874239
>terror from the deep
What do you mean? It's already out for openxcom.
To the mercenary anon I was talking to earlier, another question:
How did you choose where to have the emissive lights go? Did you do it on the material or on one of the actual textures?
>>147874580
You don't actually need the Long War toolbox to for either of the mods.
>>147874693
yes and now how about updating it for those of us who don't want to put up with an ancient UI and atari graphics
besides the end clearly pointed towards that anyway
>>147874805
The release said the toolbox had stuff related to them for them to work at their most optimal, so LWS is tripping shit
Hey lads, curious of your guy's opinions
What's better, XCOM EW with the Long War mod, or XCOM 2 along with the workshop mods?
>>147875235
>XCOM EW with the Long War mod
You're gonna get a complete experience from the get go. XCOM 1 is a finished product, XCOM2 is a work in progress by comparison.
Coming back to XCOM2 after all the DLC released
Is Impossible(?) Ironman fun to play with the DLC?
Completed two Classic Ironman playthroughs already but have been warned the DLC fucks the flow up a bit.
>>147875596
Well technically you can do the dlc missions whenever you want, its up to you.
>>147875596
yeah it's fun, you just need to actually have some skill with the game now
some people whine about the rulers, which is just evidence they need togit gud
>>147857239
Thats a Rafale you dolt.
>>147840819
Just linking to >>147874703
>>147870884
Activate all Pods, makes it so that once you start engaging your always fighting until the last enemy is dead
>It's a you must sweep and clear every building terror mission
ugghhhhhhhhh
>>147876681
My second least favorite part of Piratez, first being the weird ass twists and turns of the tech tree.
lol he ded RIP bagu haha
>>147877083
>My second least favorite part of Piratez
Is just a problem with any modded x-com or even terror from the deep map. TUs have their strenghts, but searching large areas certianly isn't one of them.
I actually enjoy the tech tree alot in PirateZ though.
>>147877110
RIP Beag. He died as he lived, on overwatch.
>>147877110
>>147877346
>>RIP Beag. He died as he lived, on overwatch.
>>147877110
Wow, that doesn't even look like him. Is it?
>>147877346
You enjoy being held back for months just because a certain enemy or weapon doesn't appear? RNG, lol?
>>147877346
>>147877459
Ok to be fair, the tech tree is deep and interesting and far superior to vanilla, but there are flaws. I wish there were multiple paths to gaining the most important techs, for example.
>>147877459
It's a late-teens (probably) Beagle. I'm pretty sure there's a picture of an adolescent Beagle somewhere, where he's wearing a baggy burgundy suit and accompanying fedora
>>147877459
>Wow, that doesn't even look like him. Is it?
It looks like him (and it is him), you're just confused by the presence of hair on top of his head.
>You enjoy being held back for months just because a certain enemy or weapon doesn't appear? RNG, lol?
It can be frustrating at times, but I still enjoy it as a net positive. I think it could use a little more in-game direction so that you had a better idea of what your missing, but an out of game resource like the tech tree viewer is a good solution. When you know what you need, hunting it down and targeting certain factions is fun, it feels like a mini in-game objective. It breaks down though when you don't know what's wrong, that's a real issue.
>>147876681
>>147877083
Every time this happens and I just save the game, ctrl+d for debug mode and hit next turn to reveal all movements, then load game and sweep up.
Not going to waste half an hour chasing down enemies that can't even penetrate my armor. I really wish they didn't take inspiration from apocalypse maps.
>>147877913
In apocalypse you can just level everything
>>147877913
>cheating
>>147878389
>In apocalypse you can just level everything
>Level everything
>Marsec is now hostile
Yeah no.
>>147845798
>Merc2Uniform
ALLAHU SECTOID
>>147877864
The only issues with the tech tree that I ran into was getting an Industrial Scanner, a damaged defender armor and the superhero arc.
Currently contemplating how to get a KIA greenlighter, since those fuckers blow up when they die along with their corpse. I'm thinking stun and execute with a knife should work.
The entire concept of purposefully losing units to progress is retarded, even if it's just a relatively meaningless progression arc.
>147878737
haha,you are so funny anon xD!
>>147878485
>mods
:^)
Original UFO games taught me how to hex edit as a kid.
>>147878556
>Level Fuckbois of Sirius and various criminals
>Sell their shit
You just gotta how to level the right people.
>>147878904
>I just save the game, ctrl+d for debug mode and hit next turn to reveal all movements, then load game and sweep up.
>mods
>>147878987
The joke was that mods are cheating Anon.
>>147878756
>The entire concept of purposefully losing units to progress is retarded
The entire concept is hilarious and perfectly fits the entire game, I loved it. I don't know what your worrying about with the greenlighter. Did they fix it where going unconscious counts as KIA? Because in my version when the went unconscious it counted.
>>147878953
Well yeah, I'm just saying you can't level every map. That was my point. Most of the time when responding to alien incursions you don't have that option.
>firaxis DLC is so shit it makes me enjoy the game less
>modders make better content
How did Firaxis fuck up XCOM2 so royally?
>>147879191
>firaxis DLC is so shit it makes me enjoy the game less
I think your the issue
>>147879079
I didn't actually try to leave the greenlighter to get stunned over time.
Finished the mission really quick and then just shot the guy. Going to stun him next time.
>>147879191
>How did Firaxis fuck up XCOM2 so royally?
Consolization.
Remove as many choices as possible, streamline everything and railroad the player into a singular playstyle, minimize resources and workload required, maximize profit.
>>147870583
He is eventually going for the Rulers.
>>147879354
I discovered it by accident, they were just chilling in the smoke in my ship and the smoke inhalation quickly overwhelmed their small health bars.
>>147879931
I think they get stun damage regardless of smoke, or do they make the smoke? I noticed mine had stun damage without doing anything.
>>147880026
Some of the slaves just take stun damage overtime. Some literally just die because your scientists suck so their insides melt.
>>147880131
I'm sad there's a very low limit for aux units, I wanted to spam them with just a few hands as backup.
>>147880457
Yeah, even the 22 hand ship only give you space for 4 aux units. Can you hire Mercenaries yet?
>>147880595
I never bought the mercs, is there research behind it? They seemed crap for the price at the time and waste of space when I already had the money to spare.
Rulers Time.
>>147878756
>The entire concept of purposefully losing units to progress is retarded
>implying you didnt go into every mission expecting to lose multiple rookies or a MWP at minimum
>>147880830
There's a difference though, you don't actively try to get your rookies killed.Unless they carry primed explosives.
What are your tips for success in LW?
>>147880728
I really like them. 120 HP, 40 armor, 60% resistance to piercing damage, they can fly, have Night Vision, and their secondary attack is very good for stunning (deals a small amount of concussive damage, and lot's of stun damage). On routine missions on smaller ships I just send them out to stun and kill everything. They also can't ever be put in the infirmary for wounds, so as long as they aren't dead, you can take them to every mission.
Excellent scouts and they can hold their own.
>>147881010
.ini editing.
>>147881052
I'm using 4 converted cyclops now, they are extremely slow though. How many TU do mercs have?
>>147877434
wait what
beag is dead? what? why? how?
>>147881197
75 TU, 120 energy, 100 melee accuracy as it turns out. 110 bravery. Also 125 hp.
Obviously not as tough as cyclopsi since they don't have plasma or laser resistance, so I woudn't take them to the toughest mission.
>>147881070
b-but that's cheating!
>>147876681
Its finally over. There were barely any enemies. Not only could I not find the enemies, the enemies couldn't find the civies.
>>147881291
He appeared in a mission as a rookie but then, just as he was about to make it out a Heavy MEC managed to bombard his position with rockets and he went down in that.
Bonus points because he was in overwatch.
>>147882375
oh.
i thought irl beag died, which made me go WAIT WTF
>>147880830
You really don't, in Piratez. People tend to collapse wounded or survive a shot or two rather than dying outright. It's a big change from vanilla.
>>147877913
I do that on the mansion maps. Fuck those. I can fluff it as having the blueprints for the house or whatever. But yeah, if it goes 5+ turns without me finding an enemy I'm looking for and I feel like it's bullshit, I will ctrl+d. One time I found a ratman hidden in a shed with a door that couldn't be open due to a plant outside it. wew lad.
>>147878904
Impressive.
>>147879191
Jake & co. trying for original game design and sucking at it rather than mimicing the original. Don't get me wrong, I love them, but I've been really disappointed lately. The new game design is way too simplified.
>>147882113
Sounds annoying.
>>147882696
Nah he is OK.
He is currently EXTERMINATING some snek nest right now.
why does in beags game the enemies activate one at the time?
>>147883295
What do you mean? I haven't noticed that.
Werewolf Murder Zone imminent /xcg/
>>147883359
@HePlaysGames please stay in your twitch chat containment zone
>>147883359
>>DIE!DIE!DIE! with a dash of WE ARE ALL SOLDIERS NOW
Is the Stream right now.
>>147883848
edgy
>>147876308
>even worse
>>147883349
when i play and activate a pod, they all run for cover at the same time
when beags plays and does it, they run one at the time
>>147884460
That's probably just an interaction with the fact that Beagle can overwatch from concealment, and, enemies freeze/ don't move all the way if the game calculates overwatch is going to kill them.
Since Beagle's squad has ridiculous overwatch capabilities and often wipes entire pods on contact, they don't even all get run.
VIPER KING DOWN
>>147885735
Beagle's squad is too OP
>>147885735
Stop posting.
>>147886229
no u
"Psychic technology is for idiots" - Beaglerush confirmed for human shitter, 2016
God damn it why won't my X2 editor work anymore? I tried everything I could find and it still just closes after the normal popup.
>>147852332
What do the aliums look like?
Drift King?
>>147886875
1. Find SteamApps\common\XCOM 2 SDK\XComGame\Config
2. Open "XcomEditorUserSettings.ini"
3. Change
[SourceControl]
Disabled=False
to
[SourceControl]
Disabled=True
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/4620970-problems-with-launching-xcom-2-editor/page-2
I WANT TO DOWNLOAD STEAM WORKSHOP MODS I JUST CAN'T AFFORD 60 DOLLARS AHHHHHH
>>147886126
Beagle is hitting them so hard the ADVENT reinforcements don't even pop out of their drop ship...
>try out the Area 51 mod
>first thing i notice is the lack of research of laser technology
>research some shit and get some flavor text of news
>Get a council mission 3 days into the game, dont even know what the fuck that is
>It shouldnt be too hard, i guess i am going to see sectoids and maybe snekman
>Only ballistic rifles and 1 magazine for each soldier
>First thing i see when i go out of the skyranger is a fucking Reaper
>take out 6 soldiers out of the Skyranger to take down the fucking thing on the first turn
>Second turn hell breaks lose with cyberdisks gunning down friendly soldiers, sectoids mind-raping my soldiers and other soldier going beserk and killing a soldier inside the skyranger.
>All of this shit going on 3 days into the fucking game in the second turn.
This is beyond long war type of magnificent design, i was not ready for this type of rape.
>>147889903
>first thing i notice is the lack of research of laser technology
No suprise there
>Get a council mission 3 days into the game, dont even know what the fuck that is
Why did you accept it if its 3 days into the game?
>First thing i see when i go out of the skyranger is a fucking Reaper
>take out 6 soldiers out of the Skyranger to take down the fucking thing on the first turn
Your fault for not taking HE to every mission in 94com
>>147889701
there was literally two sales
you have no one to blame but yourself
>>147889701
Why don't you just specify what mods you want. There's a chance someone will upload it to the xcg Mega library.
Stream is Over.
>>147889701
how bout 36? because its 40% off at the humble store
>>147890120
I was a bit rusty and totally forgot about HE that you can buy, i didnt even bought flares since i was fucking around with other shit.
Also i thought that they were like terror missions and are mandatory.
>>147889701
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/xcom-2-pc-cd-key-steam
32$, i bought the game from there day 1
>>147876681
This kinda shit right here is why my FMP playthrough has 4 people on permanent multi launcher duty purely to level terrain and everyone else is issued a block of HE
>>147876339
>>147874703
That's on the texture, to be more specific, on the msk's alpha channel. The material controls how bright it is, and if you select "alpha to emissive" or something like that when you import the texture, it also controls the color of the emissive.
>>147888367
Already done that, along with deleting all the mods and reinstalling both the SDK and game.
this fucking sniper i swear
>opportunist overwatch triggers on nothing, no squad members had vision of anything
>floater magically appears after he shoots, and is killed
hes my highest ranked op and after that bullshit i gave him every medal
watch out
>>147895090
Based Advent, always thinking safety first.
Just something about the way X2 generates names for stuff.
Any word on getting the remaining Titanfall skins?
>>147897420
You just want those bums dont you
>>147897523
do you not?
>>147898316
Of course I do im just gauging your motives
Claus is based.
That is all.
When I activate a pod in XCOM 2, the pod activation animation refuses to play. What happens is an bunch of frozen enemies that freeze for half a minute before suddenly moving to cover when being spotted.
Anyone know what mod may be causing this?
>>147899130
Interesting, seems like "Larger Starting Squad Size" mod causes that error
>>147899837
thats weird
i use that mod but i dont have that problem
>defend resistance haven
>literally 1 day away from plate armor
Th-thanks
Most of our troops look fancy now at least, and we have a killbot, i'm using the Geth prime voicepack on it for that added spookyness.
>>147900517
Oh my god. How do you want your fucking pods senpai
>>147900717
ah relax you have a bruiser, it's all good
though survival instinct is a way better skill than the +10 aim. Free armor for two turns, man. Turns them into tanks.
>That head gear looks really weird with his current armor, let's take that off and see who's under the helmet
>>147900717
>>147900834
Yeah, on hindsight i should've gone for the armor one but oh well.
Advent dropped some guys right next to us, which in turn apparently caused literally everyone else to come and rush us.
>>147901024
I'm a big believer in running with what rng soldiers come with so I'm just gonna upgrade him to a tier 2 look and run with it. Some sort of Lime Green space ranger.
>>147901223
there's always awc respec
Muton Autopsy before plate armor?
>>147901223
>>147901779
Welp, there goes our killbot(and 2 rookies).
>>147901024
I can't believe Nappa gained Broly's power.
>>147902378
Fuck it i'm running, there's 60 million advent and more come every turn, i already lost my brand new spark and the campaign will probably go kaput if i lose even one Lt.
>>147902898
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT YOUR PROGRESS OVER THE PAST MONTH HAS BEEN SO... MEDIOCRE.
>>147902898
That was a catastrophe, and a stunlancer captured one of our guys.
>>147903083
Fuck you baldman.
>>147903141
Rest in fucking pieces
>>147901024
B-Brother?!
>new campaign
>bad airgame rng, scouts getting away
>landed freighter
>assault it anyways
>going well until lol 8 outsiders
welp, I guess that's why I avoid those
I just started a new campaign in Legendary/ironmeme mode.
I cant recall if i should build AWC first or Guerrilla School thingy.
What do i do?
>guy panicking gets shot
>now its bleeding
>>this guy is no longer panicked
th-thanks game
>>147903367
Boy i sure wish i remembered i need to buy this after researching it. At least i got an Exo suit for my bruister.
>>147903953
Standard start is GTS then AWC
>>147903995
Hopefully this mission will go better.
Through a series of poorly played mission, I find my roster almost completely out due to wounds. As luck would have it, the next mission is a Dark VIP, so it's time to embark on another trademark solo assassin op. Katz isn't looking like much of an assassin right now, so I think I'll fix that up first.
fuck additional missiont types
there is a thing called pacing
how am i supposed do this as my 3rd mission on the campaign??
i like the core idea of if, but i dont like having to play a 30- minutes mission whenever the game feels like itsrry i just needed to vent some steam
way to many 80% shoots missed and way too many hits throu full cover
>>147904105
[ayy lmao intensifies]
>>147904164
All right, let's see if I can manage not to screw this up. My only attempted stealth mission ended in a complete disaster. I have confidence Captain Katz has got this on the Lockdown though.
>>147904883
If I didn't know any better, I'd say xcom is tired of my shit. An absolutely horrible set up here, the VIP is on the other of a wall. I'm going to have to maneuver across the entire map just to get a clean shot.
>>147905095
Civies, Scanner Towers, and an Advent Patrol. Feel like I'm already trying to thread a needle here.
>>147904637
>everything going by the numbers
>think there's only one pod remaining
>tfw scan and there's a clusterfuck just sitting there
>>147905339
There's a pod between Katz and the evac, hopefully i find a way to circumvent them.
>>147905473
I don't think she's making it out guys :(
>>147905250
hur dur how 2 stun
>>147905663
Everything went better than expected.
At the end of March/beginning of April if I have a lot of Specs should I actually be taking them on missions in order for them to be promoted into Lcpls and so on and so forth for the next months?
I should take a PFC or two if I can afford to also, correct?
>>147905606
Looks like you could go over the building towards the evac and shoot the dude through a window.
>long war perk pack its in conflict with itself
amm does this happened to anyone else?
>Finally had a campaign going I was happy with
>long dong releases lasers and perks
>I fuckin love lasers
Goddammit I am glad they did that but I wish I had waited to start a campaign. I will be stuck forever repeating early game like some modern day groundhog day.
But if anon is legit about ayy pack coming soon I'll wait.
>>147845968
You have to go through it to get to plasma. I don't remember in LW there being a real reason to keep using lasers when you reached pulse or ballistics when you got to magnetic.
>>147905827
You shouldn't have PFCs at the end of march, they should have all been ranked up to SPEC during march. Then in april you get the SPECs to LCPL and so on.
After march you should only take PFCs on the easiest of missions, and even then mostly just one, not multiple at the same time.
>>147905834
>>147905606
In an incredible display of bs, the MEC pod literally walks half way across the map to spot my would be assassin. I know pods drag beyond you, but this is ridiculous. RIP Katz, I can't stealth X2 to literally save my life.
You probably had the better idea in my mind, I'm not sure, but this had already happened by the time you suggested it.AHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE IT
>>147906034
HATE MEC
>>147905997
Oh shit, I shouldn't have ANY PFCs?
Damn that's like 40+ people yo
Aight.
>>147905757
Got a new killbot, i'll try to force feed it kills in this mission so it gits gud
>>147906034
Yeah, I think I'm done for the night. The game didn't even bother with suspense, the first ADVENT Captain crit for her entire health pool.Good night /xcg/ ;_;
>>147906457
Bored of your blog.
>>147906440
Yeah, basically you take full PFCs on every mission except the council one, that leaves you with a full SPEC team for April. April you do the same to get a nearly full LCPL team.
It's hard to fight the advanced aliens with rookies, and you need a "wide" roster because you sometimes have to do 4-5 missions in the same week. It's always a tradeoff between playing it safe by bringing the A-team or taking on some risk by training people for the future.
>>147906830
Whoops, I'm taking full PFCs on the council mission. Maybe at least I'm prioritizing research right with xenobio first for sectoid-scientist trades then lasers?
>>147907953
>Whoops, I'm taking full PFCs on the council mission.
That's fine if you can complete it, it's always best to bring the most inexperienced crew you can get away with. But you generally can bring every soldier to at least one non-council mission so it's not necessary to do.
>>147907953
and yeah research is correct
>>147908104
>TFW want to give some PFC a kill but the shitter keeps missing
Should there have been a difficulty between commander and legend? I can breeze through commander, but legend rapes my face.
Is the Perk Pack OP as fuck?
Is the enemy unknown campain different from enemy within?
Should I play EU campaign then start EW with mods?
>>147909816
Yes, it doesn't come with salt on your eggs.
There's no reason to play EU when you can be doing EW.
>>147908418
That helmet is pretty neato. You combined the DLC space helmet with some accessories, I take it?
>Commissar
>Pistol shots against allies who have been mind-controlled by enemies have +50 to hit, cannot be dodged and automatically kill the target if a hit occurs
why would i want to use this ever??
what where they thinking when they designed this perk?
>>147910284
"lol dude but the memes"
>>147910284
PURGE THE WEAKWhat if it gave your team a massive buff?
>>147910284
Is that long dong's perks? I guess as a "oh god I need to take care of that high risk MC ASAP"Lots of MC-capable elite ayys confirmed for LW Alien pack
>>147910546
>LW Alien pack
When?
>>147910372
it doesnt say
but unless it makes the sectoid brain explode and all other enemies present to perma panic then that perk can fuck off
>>147910546
literally one of the sergeant perk of the new specialist gives it a free flashbang plus another you can equip it
the assault starts with run n gun
the new grenadier can get heavy ordinance at corporal
i dont know what kind of alien that would be there are lots of alternatives, and i fail to see in what scenario could it be worth it to kill one of your own soldiers, especially late game
at least they could have made it "kneecap shot" or something that stuns instead of outright killing
>>147910284
DUDE COMMUNISM IS BAD LOL
I bet the guy that made it was a capitalistic democrat.
Going straight for psionics is still viable, yes?
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>>147913091
The fuck is that.
Pulse weapons?
Somebody please post the full version of Johnny Lump's "Magnificent design" rant, I've lost it and I can't find it.
>move guy to crate
>no ayy lmaos
>send second guy to crate
>he moves one tile more to the left than first guy
>haha ayy lmaos
>second guy gets shot to death
Some times it just feels like Jake has decided that you have to lose a guy so dumb shit happens and they die
>>147860916
The gunman was black and was a member of Black Lives Matter. He did fire at the police only. Why would he try to kill his fellow negroes?
>>147913091
What mod is needed for those smart suits?
>>147918132
Can you read?
>>147911902
It's a warhammer 40k thing, chill out commie.
>>147917528
>disregard the other guys entire (completely valid) message about how the "magnificent" design decision being un-fun
>call the guy a shitter for putting a last line where the guy posted a more personal opinion than before
Why did you have to remind me anon?
>>147911902
Fuck off tau player
Hey Merc Plasma guy, any plans to make your weapons an Tier 4 weapon after plasma Aka +2 Damage? With some of the later Better AI / Ruler Mods, the game can be configured for an extra tier in tech (I ran out of things to research anyway way before I finish the Avatar).
Since they have little radiation symbols and shoot in a laser-like manner, maybe make them Nuclear Fusion Weapons?
>>147919714
Apparently not...
God...damn.
What should I build above the workshop?
>>147922664
You should place your workshop in a way that it touches at least 1 power core, and surround it with 1 power, 2 comm relays, and if possible 1 more power relay if you got lucky
>>147922534
Is that the Fallout Armor mod?
>>147920907
The plan is to make them sort of a sidegrade to the vanilla plasma weapons, but that's down the line when i finish all the weapons.
I plan to keep making more mods after this, and among those mods there would be other weapon mods, and since these are technically plasma weapons, i figured it would make more sense for them to have similar stats to the vanilla ones. I planned to make a weapon type that fit between Magnetic and Plasma but now that the Long Dong team made lasers that's out the window.
Not sure how to differentiate them yet though, i have some ideas but nothing concrete, i remember when i first posted the rifle here someone said "that must weight a ton, i don't want to carry that shit around" or something like that, so one of my ideas was to make them take some mobility away, but deal more damage, but that sounds pretty frustrating. Another idea is less range but more damage, which might be better since then maybe you could say "ok, i want the merc shotgun because i want to be close, but i want the normal plasma sniper because it has more range", or specific weapons could be different instead of it being a single difference among all the weapon types, and so on.
The only thing i'm almost sure of is that the difference in price will be that they cost less alloys but more supplies, since they don't look like they're made out of Ayy materials.
In any case, i first have to finish this mod, and then i'll make a separate one where they have their own stats. I have a couple of additional ideas for that mod too, like a couple of unique weapons for grimmy's loot mod, like a longer range pistol, or a rapid fire rifle, or a cannon that gives a defense bonus(i have no idea if this is doable but i like the idea of slapping a shield on a cannon that gives medium cover bonus). But i know a lot of people don't like "cheat mods" so i'll have to figure out a way to get people to make the weapons without grimmy's mod, maybe an additional research.
>>147922943
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720818415
>>147923135
>things to add
>Possibly add physics to the buttflaps.
Dropped.
>>147922534
>green visor looks far better
>Randall's ramblings look out of place in muh XCOM
FUCK
>>147920102
I love it when someone reuses that image I made.
>Also Pic Related.
5 SPARKS on a VIP assassination.
>URBAN STERILIZATION IN PROGRESS.
>>147925269
>SPARKs onlyAre SPARKS sentient?
Is there always a UFO hunter after the blacksite?
>>147925849
Yes
>>147925849
Maybe
>>147925849
I don't know, can you repeat the question?
>>147922969
I really love your plasma weapons and prefer them over the shape of Firaxis' (theirs look good, just not my style. Too vanu) but I'd definitely think they look too rough and prototype for plasma 2.0. Not that you were planning that (and I am just going to use yours exclusively over the vanilla ones when I play a campaign).
I'm not sure how you did the FX but if I knew anything about modding for Xcom2 I would have done early plasma being the old school Xcom2012 'big fat globs thrown out like a canonball' and late plasma being the Xcom2 beam variety.
Just spitballing some random ideas for what you could do:
-Bypasses armor entirely but does one of the following: 1) Less damage, 2) Less damage vs Robotic enemies 3) Does almost all of its damage in a DOT fashion as it's radioactive or whatever. Not a measily 1 point a turn but something beefy like if plasma rifles normally do 7-9 damage, this gun does 9-11 damage over 3 turns.
-Mercenary plasma, being more prototype and 'unstable' with higher charged plasma shot, does increased (not some piddly ass 5% but upwards of 25%) more building/cover destruction damage.
-If you want to be more "That's xcom baby" - chance of overload/overheating when you make a shot, which immediately results in an empty mag and a need to reload. Could be compensated by much higher damage.
-Make the plasma mercenary line all function like the fire ammo with a chance of setting an enemy on fire.
Personally I didn't really like in Xcom1 mods that did the whole assymetrical weaponry but that's just me, glad to hear you'll do a two version pack.
Is a Defense Matrix worth building, guise?
>>147928137
Yes
>>147928137
Might as well. It's cheap, and late game it's not like you have much else to build
>>147928690
kys
>>147928690
Is itFreakily Charmingsart ?
Looks like itAlso how the fuck did everybody changed to "bully" towards cycloposter holy fuck
>>147927772
I'm still learning how to make FX, most of these fx are just recolored versions of the vanilla fx, i tried some different things with the shotgun but it's not even noticeable when you see it ingame unfortunately.
And ironically i have the exact opposite idea for plasma weapons, my idea for a plasma 2.0 weapon was that it would shoot balls of plasma. I have this idea of bringing back the Elite mutons with fancier plasma weapons. That said i have no idea how to make ayys, so i plan to start with something simpler, something like Advent Stormtroopers, highly mobile advent glass cannon type ayy that would be very mobile and hit really hard, but not have a lot of health.
As for the ideas, i didn't even think about making them some kind of DOT weapon, but that sounds pretty fun. Maybe pistols would even beusefulthen with face off, put a DOT on every ayy on screen.
>>147931927
Ayy anonayynon kekhere, if you need help creating an enemy hit me up. I'll do what I can without my editor working.
>>147846939
You may have been a heartless hunk of metal but you were always one of the squad mates to me
R.I.P
>>147932171
Cool, why does your editor not work though?
>>147932683
I dunno. Seems to be Shen's Last Gift broke it and now it doesn't launch no matter how many fixes I try.
>>147932803
Does it just close when it's loading some foliage brush crap?
>>147933005
Nah,, I already disabled source control. I get to the normal popup and then it just quits.
>>147933074
Welp.
>>147933153
As for your elite muton idea, it'd depend on if you want the EU mutons or just use the model of the muton in X2 and add cosmetics as much as you want. It's simple enough to get the X2 version working, but the EU ones have an issue where none of their animations will import properly, and if you did get them to import you would have to do something I don't remember to every single animation.
>>147934313
Fuck Elite Mutons from EU would be so awesome. And I'm not impressed lightly, I tell you what.
>>147919824
Where do you think w40k got it from? Soviet Russia.
>>147935431
What I do know is you'd have to relabel all the areas of the EU skeletal mesh's rigging, get the animations to actually IMPORT FOR ONCE FIRAXIS, and then make all the animations into an AnimTree one by one. THEN you've most likely got retexturing to do because of how the old textures look bad in the new engine if unedited. Then there's all the sound notifies to do. Then creating the weapon projectiles and the weapon itself. Then the actual coding like the AI and any custom abilities, among other things. Pretty sure I missed things to do.
Yeah I'd be impressed too. The main thing stopping me is the animations.
>>147911902
Butthurt commie scum!
>>147934313
Nah i'd make my own, i like modeling things. I'd probably just stick a fancy hat and some extra armor on the normal mutons. The most important thing is their hat.
That and animations aren't my thing, i tried to animate some things years ago and let's just say things didn't go well.
>>147935985
Couldn't you just equip it with a vanilla heavy plasma from X2?
>>147936126
In that case, I can definitely help with that. I already added you on steam so just tell me if you want any help.
>>147936219
That would get rid of the weapon process, but the rest of the issues would still be there. Honestly, I think the weapon one of the easier ones to do in comparison. I'll keep trying when my editor works again, but I can't promise anything,
>Want to start new playthrough with Long War mods and classes
>Need to wait for all my other class mods to maybe update so that they also have three tech trees
Fuck.
>>147931840
It's probably the exact same people every time.
Is there a mod to enable T1 customization for spark? The high tier stuff looks like shit
>>147928137
Interceptors are very expensive and UFOs drop a lot of loot so..
>>147936391
Cool, if i need help when i get to ayy modding i'll ask.
How do I upgrade the bolt caster? I really wish the wikis would at least add the freakin weapons.
>>147938401
gets to me everytime as he is part of /xcg/ meme culture nowLike xgc, argon, magnificent design, JAAAAAKE...
Post imaginary Jake vs Johnny Lump debates
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>>147940565
Kill rulers, do the autopsies, and you'll get the upgrade available in engineering. First upgrade is with the snek king, last one is with the archon king(I presume anyway, haven't killed him yet and berserker queen gave me nothing).
>>147941854
Slow poke
See >>147922534
>>147940565
You have to do the Alien Hunter DLC mission where you look for Dr Vahlen. Then the weapons automatically become avaible to buy from the Engineering Bay, as soon as you upgrade the respective weapon tier (magnetic, plasma) that is.
>>147941582
>hey what if we made an enemy that takes an action after every one of the player's actions?
>magnificent
>>147942224Fuck.I'm sorry, I just woke up.
>>147936990
Existing class mods with two trees work just fine with the LW Perk Pack, they just look a bit wonky because the perks are filled in from the left (so you end up with an empty space at the right).
>>147941582
>Hey it seems like players have found a way to use the Shadow Chamber to detect Alien Rulers, making them easier to dea-
>WOW THE ENTITLEMENT, TELL THEM TO GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE
>its the "advent runs into 100% total death just to kill 1 or 2 of your troops episode"
fuck this, is there mod to make advent actually act like human and not suicide all the time
>>147944540
Improved AI
>>147944540
theyre not human
>>147944598
A Better Advent's AI and Improved AI together make for a sadistic couple. They're fully compatible and it's great.
What the fuck is going on?
Just came back to see the new XCOM2 DLC and there is a 100 health sectopod after 2 endless horde escape segments before I've even done the first black site.
Can't be doing with this on my Legend Ironman playthrough
>>147944701
I want to make a new run with the current shen DLC, Guerrilla Warfare and A Better Advent AI all of this in L/I.
How fucked can i be if i try that?
Can Guerrilla Warfare even be completed?
>>147945067
Won't know until you try. Show it off for us.
also i miss that one guy who posted his missions all the time. fuck the anon who said he got bored of him.
>>147945067
>Can Guerrilla Warfare
I mean, Beagle seems to be on his way to completing his campaign. So I guess so. But then again he has a hilariously broken squad.
>>147945167
Godspeed Red Crown anon.
when do I start seeing shit like lightning reflex thin men?
>>147941582
>I think Frost Bombs would ease up the pain when encountering a ruler
>But Jake, why would you give a hard counter to alien rulers?
>How else can they beat them otherwise
>They're not supposed to. As the developer you're supposed to literally defeat your players through your game
>That's not fun
>They're not supposed to have fun they're supposed to compete with YOU.
>>147946905
At the worst possible time.
>oh boy a Dark VIP
>And almost my entire roster is wounded except for this B-Team Sniper
>Well /xcg/ pulled off the solo assassination mission, twice in fact!
>I got this
>Spotted!
>Dead
>;_;
I can't stealth missions /xcg/ how do you do it?
>>147948186
YOusavescum like a bitch
How do I keep track of how many kills each soldier has gotten in EW? During a mission, that is.
>>147948564
Unless I get some convincing advice, I'm never running a stealth mission again. I've tried twice, the first one lost me an entire squad.
>>147948695
Write it on a piece of paper. I am serious. But why do you want to know?
>>147948874
So I know who to give kills for exp instead of feeding them all to one dude
>>147949003
>not being able to remember who got kills and who didn't
smugadvent.jpg
This LW Perk Pack is pretty underwhelming.
The classes aren't nearly distinct enough. Why do 3 of them use the pistol as a secondary weapon? Common sense dictates that if you're going to expand the class selection then you should have two classes for each secondary weapon type. Why are there 7 classes now instead of 8?
Sharpshooter: Identical to base Sharpshooter.
Specialist: Identical to base Specialist.
Assault and Shinobi: Just chopped up simplified versions of the base Ranger.
Gunner and Grenadier: Just chopped up simplified versions of the base Grenadier.
Ranger: Generic soldier man.
It makes no fucking sense.
Either chop up and simplify all 4 of the base classes or don't chop up and simplify any of them.
>>147929745
>>147930228
>>147930658
>>trying this hard to be edgy
>>147949367
How does it simplify the classes?
>>147930658
>>147930631
>>147930228
>>147929745
>>147931840
Actually itsCreepily Cute
>>147949367
The classes were more of an afterthought - the main point of the pack is the perks and the UI mod, not really the classes itself. They ended up doing a bunch of classes as a sample for the perks more than anything else.
It's very likely that you'll see much more thought-out classes in their final mod, whenever that comes out.
>>147949550
Vanilla Ranger is a Shotgun and Blade expert.
So they chopped that up into two. Assault for the Shotgun side, Shinobi for the Blade side.
Vanilla Grenadier is an LMG and Explosives expert.
So they chopped that up into two. Gunner for the LMG side and Grenadier for the Explosives side.
What is the point when I can just use vanilla Grenadiers/Rangers and spec them into one or the other?
>>147949964
That's literally what Long War did for EW with some classes, I don't see your point.
>>147949875
Why didn't they just add the new perks to the original classes and then make the mod that everyone ACTUALLY wants:
One unified class which can wield any combination of primary and secondary weapons, and has Training Roulette enabled with all of the vanilla perks and the modded LW perks.
>>147949964
I feel like you never played Long War.
>>147949382
go away cyclops poster, nobody loves you
even your waifu would find you disgusting if she wasreal
Beautiful laser effects, thank you based Lump
No matter how you look at it, the vanilla XCOM class design is just cleaner, more 'symmetrical' and makes more sense.
>Sharpshooter - Pistoleer or Sniper
>Specialist - Medic or Hacker
>Grenadier - Heavy Gunner or Demolitions
>Ranger - Shotgunner or Melee
Then you look at the LW take on it.
>Sharpshooter - Pistoleer or Sniper
>Specialist - Medic or Hacker
>Gunner - Heavy Gunner or... Pistoleer again?
>Grenadier - Demolitions or... Generic soldier?
>Assault - Shotguns or Blades
>Shinobi - Shotguns or Blades but the other way around?
>Ranger - Generic soldier or Pistoleer
It's just bad.
>>147950295savage
>>147950790
You are not every good at expressing your point of view. I guess I'll just have to take a look at the classes myself to see if their is any validity to what you're saying.
>>147949964
Each class becomes more niched at what they do, giving rise to more well defined subclasses. Or at least that's what should be happening.
>>147950790
>cleaner
>symmetrical
The word you are looking for is simple
>makes more sense
Literally made that way so everyone new to series can understand it
Do the DLC missions get harder as the game progresses? Or do they pretty much always have the same enemies and stuff?
>>147951223
There's a difference between being more complex and just being more cluttered and messy.
>>147951721
I believe they stay the same.
>>147950696
Welp, fucked up the resolution
>>147950295
>>not liking cyclopsposter
Jesus, how new can you be?
>>147952205
The true path is indifference. They like cyclops girls and I don't care. Harmony.
Here is how the classes should logically be laid out.
>Commando - Leader or Rifleman
>Ranger - Shotgunner or Melee
>Scout - SMGer or Stealth
>Specialist - Medic or Hacker
>Sharpshooter - Pistoleer or Sniper
>Grenadier - Heavy Gunner or Demolitions
One base class for each soldier slot in a full squad, plus the two unique classes for when you want to get fancy.
>>147952205
It gets so fucking obnoxious to see the same whining and begging all day long with no attempt to actually fix the issue himself
i'd have a modicum of respect if this shitposter picked up the SDK and fulfilled their shitty fetish by themselves, but all they do is shitpost. It's awful, they contribute nothing, and there's no reason they shouldn't be called out for it
so fuck the cyclops poster and fuck you for defending them
>>147952205
>how new can you be
I assure you that new people don't care, but i've been watching him post that crap for months now, so he should fuck off.
>If I shitpost harder then the shitposter I don't like that will fix things
People never learn.
>>147953245
>telling a shitposter to fuck off is shitposting
sure thing, champ. keep telling yourself that
>>147952895
>...whining and begging all day...
>he literally limits to one post per thread
>>147953629
Literally this.
People who complain about cyclopsposter are talking out of their ass: he only posts one post, and no more.
If anything, cycopsposter is a sign that the general is still healthy.
>>147953730
t. cyclopsposter
Thinking about getting XCOM 2 deluxe since it's on sale in the Humble Store, but I have a couple questions.
Does it actually take up 45 gigs? Is there any way to mitigate this and make it smaller?
The DLC for XCOM EU was dogshit that just broke the game because it was overpowered, is this DLC the same? Is it worth playing with?
What are the best mods to use?
>>147953629
>>147953730
If I threw shit at your front door and smeared it up all along your house, but only "limited it to once a day", would you consider that okay? or would you think it's fucking stupid and needs to stop entirely to the whole house isn't covered in shit?
justifying your existence by B-B-BUT I DON'T DO IT THAT MUCH is a shit and disingenuous argument and you know, faggot.
>>147953948
the DLC is bretty gud desu and doesn't break anything balance-wise really. the recommended mods are in the op.
>>147945067
>Guerrilla Warfare
God damn that mod sounds like its exactly what i wanted out of XCOM 2.
His dev videos only makes it better
>>147954031
>Implying threads don't last various days
>being this mad about maymays
>>147954031
>would you consider that okay
Where do you think we are?
>>147954291
>Uh oh, I've lost the argument!
>Better call them mad and use LE EBIN MAYMAY ARROWS
>That'll show'em!
>>147954516
>posting snek maymay
>>147954516
Do you really think this is the same anon
>>147954793
>O-oh, uh, I'm n-not the same anon, h-haha!
>I'm just the only one defending the shitposter
>god i hope nobody notices
why are you so terrible
>>147954031
you are blowing this way out of proportions
your analogy its not even the same, it would be more accurate to say a crazy man on a bike with a megaphone yells something outside your house every 3rd day
besides at this point is more for memeing than an actual request
>>147955156
You're the one going full autism over this shit and t-t-typing l-like t-th-h-is
>>147955232
Pretty much.
Alsowe already got cyclops beep boop in the game so, in a way, he got what he wanted. The fact he keeps asking for a human cyclops meme is, I guess, an assurance that he will never leave /xcg/ despite our fears
>>147957571
AH SHIT ITS DIO
>>147950790
>X or Y
>symmetrical
Considering that the LW classes have three perk trees, not just two, your comment just feels like you haven't even looked at their entire trees and see what you can do with mixing and matching things on various levels.
Not saying that the LW Perk Pack classes would be the best, but really, the two-specializations thinking shouldn't really apply with three trees.
So I managed to butcher the Viper King. Which unit should be wearing his armour tho? I thought it would tactically best fit my sniper because of the grappling hook and all that. Berserker Queen was a worst. I got her HP down to fucking half and she only managed to damage my ranger 2 HP. Viper King was much more difficult imo. I heard Archon Tsar is hard as fuck. Is this true?
>activate all the pods at once
>all you have are specs and pfcs
nigger
>barely survived second month avenger defense thanks to heroic sacrifice of one soldier
>getting another avenger defense just a few missions later
Except this time I have a full squad and mag weapons. Time for sweet vengeance. This is for you Niels.
>area suppression for the LW gunner can be used to apply holo targeting to multiple enemies
This is disgustingly good
>>147958794
>smoke
>flashbang
>full cover
nigger
>>147955232
But this isn't leddit anon.
We don't do memes here.
How does the supression module thing work on SHIVs?
>>147959291
>blue move one guy out of spawn
>all the enemies are there
>all cover is a yellow move away
>>147959838
Pics or it didn't happen. I know there is like one map like that.
>when the overwatch hit just right
>>147958809
NIELS WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN
>>147935786
Chill out commie, you'll get kicked out of the bread line if you keep acting out.
>>147948695
I used to just count in my head for a long time, it isn't too hard.
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/554/? for LW. If you're on plain EW I guess it won't work, but counting there is kinda pointless.
>>147950790
>Demolitions or... Generic soldier?
This was the design for LW Rocketeer as well, and an option for many other classes. It's not a generic soldier, you still get a rocket. But every class in XCOM is also a rifleman. So you can either emphasize their special features strongly while making them a lesser member of the fireteam, or keep them a strong rifleman with an innate class trick or two.
>>147950790
This is exactly what I think too. EW Long War was actually excellent, but X2 Long War is shit and all you faggots know it. Don't even try defending it only because "B-B-But I'm so different and smart, l-l-long war is muuch better! You're just a n-n-normie..:"
>>147965321
Could you please type like a normal person. I enjoy tracking a discussion, but it doesn't need a side of cancer every time make a point.
Help plz when does the lid queen spawn. Got a terror attack in August and i feel like this is it...
>>147965795
You get a level 9 lid on your 9th terror mission
On that note, you'll be facing a level 9 drone on your 18th.
Hope you've been counting
>>147965772
Could you please defer from completely irrelevant strawman arguments?
>>147966419
>implying implications
I'm not even disagreeing with you. I haven't seen the new Long War classes, nor used them, so I have no set opinion on them.
That entire post doesn't even have an argument, you just declare the classes are shit and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. Its just an obnoxious way to "argue" and doesn't add anything to a discussion.
>>147966374
Crisis averted. Thx bro. We now continue with your regular shit posting
>>147966680
If you can't handle a little banter, then 4chan probably isn't the right place for you, mate. Maybe try tumblr?
>>147967028
No it's ok, I can see this won't go anywhere.
>>147966873
REMOVE AYY
Do my eyes deceive me or is this ADVENT armor.
>>147967710
Yes it is
>>147967710
And gun
where's that xcom skill tree builder thing?
Which LW class makes for the "best" tank?
>>147969913
Mec
>>147970173
what about pre-mec?
>>147970405
Bio-tank Assault.
>>147965321
>X2 Long War is shit
But no such thing exists right now. The name Perk Pack should clue you in on the fact that the mod is primarily about the perks (for others to build upon), the classes are basically just extra on top of that.
>>147970458
Honestly I'll argue that bio-tank assaults do their job a lot better than MECs. You can stack a lot more DR, and thanks to combat stims, you basically have a two turn invulnerability button. Personally I never needed more than two turns of tanking, and even when I did, the health and DR stack was still godlike, and I ended up taking pretty extremely small damage.
Giving up the job of tanking to assaults also allows MECs to be put to their full potential. I think I used MEC-7s. Great defense anyway to survive hits, and enough mob to get you pretty much everywhere you need to get.
Im really disappointed with xcom 2 so far
Too many timed missions rushing you into unfavorable possisions and then you are punished by not killing aliens in the 1st turn you see them
didnt overwatch? dead
missed the overwatch? Kamikaze stunlancers incoming
>>147971791
>and enough mob to get you pretty much everywhere you need to get.except gud
>>147971862
>breaking concealment with an overwatch trap
There are cheat mods on the workshop if rookie is too hard for you
>>147971862
Get improved AI mods like ABA or Improved AI.
Also git gud, timers don't provide any meaningful pressure unless you have panic attacks whenever a deadline exists.
>>147969913
you already got a response, but biotank assaults make early game pretty comfy
>>147971862
I've never had any problems with timers. They stress you out, sure. But have you ever actually RUN OUT of time? Well I certainly haven't. Not even fucking once.
>>147971862
>Overwatching stun lancers
Of course it didn't work. I'm not gonna tell you that you for sure you're going to start enjoying X2, but your current complaints show you need to adjust your tactics.
>>147971791
I've know what person claimed that nothing beat Goliaths paired with mind merge psi medics for tanking. I believe he was playing on impossible.
>>147972153
I'm not counting the Advent Doom-o-meter on the world map obviously.
>>147950790
Here is how the classes should have been.
Sniper - Set up sniper or move around sniper
Scout - Stealth scouting or utility scouting
Specialist - Support or Offense Utility
Medic - Capacity or Potence of healing
Grenadier - Volume or Potency
Gunner - AOE vs Single Target debuffs
Ranger - Overwatch or Active Fire
Assault - Single target or harassment shotgunning
Spec Ops - Stealth assassination or solo operations
Partisan - Stealth ambush or utility explosives
http://steamcommunity.com//workshop/filedetails/?id=622863565
Anyone feel like being a cool dude and uploading the latest version?
>>147972023
>>147972031
How should I be handling the concealment phase?
>git gud
yeah i guess i do need to do that...
Any advice for dealing with these melee aliens?
>>147972058
Biotank assaults are the good shit
I remember one of my missions where heavy floaters were doing their regular bullshit, while also having a high level leader with them. Couldn't kill them, so I placed my biotank in some indestructible full cover in front, popped stims, protected the rest through hiding/hunker/smoke, and overwatched.
Leader pulled out a grenade and chucked it at my assault. 9 DR, 0 Damage.
>>147972624
Concealment phase is for rapidly moving towards the objective and then setting up in a favorable position to iniate and wipe the first pod you find. Do not try to pass pods in concealment, they will just follow you. Do not overwatch ambush in concealment 90% of the time, it can put you in an extremely unfavorable position once half or none of your shots hit.
Flashbangs stop lancers from sprinting across the entire map and stabbing people. Also burning status.
>>147972153
I guess I play it too slow, usually moving into blue range and overwatching. I just hate feeling punished for that
>>147972219
Any advice?
>>147972624
Flashbangs if there's enough distance. Shotgun to the face if they're close.
>>147972624
Maneuver cleverly and well, flick everyone on overwatch but one guy, chuck a grenade into the pod. Bam, dead. Move on.
Geez, you aren't even playing with all pods activated or any of that. Not hard.
If melee ayys give you trouble then use the freeze grenade or gas grenade to pop pods instead of frags or acid. Get better weapons, upgrade them with scopes and shit. Flashbang the fuckers. Launch a goddamn rocket at them.
you have so many tools. use them. git gud.
>>147972582
I'd also appreciate this as Mod Everything seems to have fucking broke
>>147972219
When was this? Sounds like from the b14 era, where Goliaths were literally indestructible. When b15 came, they quickly became labeled as the shittiest MECs in the game.
I'm not sure how well that would work in b15. There's a point of DR gained for every 50 will when mind merging, a good psi will usually reach 100 with inspire or serious training, so that's only +2 DR.
>>147972926
Mod Everything broke with LW perk pack, has since been updated. But the mod author hasn't updated the nexus page since forever, and skymods hasn't updated it yet either.
>>147973052
I don't even use the perk pack as it conflicts with too much other shit I run and I have like 569 mods.
It just doesn't let me mod armor and shit like I used to, which is why I said it was broken.
>>147972870
>usually moving into blue range and overwatching
That's exactly why concealment and timers got introduced, because the strictly superior EU tactic was to blue move with one guy, beeline everyone behind him, and overwatch. Now there's actually a choice between blue move and yellow move.
>>147973014
He was playing on B15. Still reported his Goliath to be nigh indestructible. I saw a couple of screenshots they were impressive. Besides pairing them with a psi medic, also prioritize Heat aliens.
>>147972926
>Maneuver cleverly and well, flick everyone on overwatch but one guy, chuck a grenade into the pod. Bam, dead. Move on.
Generally not a good idea on the higher difficulties
You're also forgetting that gas grenades and rockets aren't available for the early portion of the game when things are most dicey.
>>147973263
Now the strat is to yellow move your phantom guy, and everyone else follow him with overwatch.
Nothing has changed.
>>147972058
How should I build them?
>>147973307
It works just fine for me and I play on Commander. A'course, only reason I do that is because the marathon mode mod only works on commander or veteran and like fuck if I'll ever play veteran again. Shit's too easy.
>>147973412
The defensive perk tree, but give them reinforced armor (think it comes with the advanced war fare foundry project).
Reinforced armor gives them +DR but -defense, making them the easiest one of your guys to hit, so aliens are more likely to shoot at them.
>>147973014
>There's a point of DR gained for every 50 will when mind merging
That number doesn't sound right, are you sure? That sounds like psi panic.Don't have long war installed right now so I can't really check.
>>147973523
>>147973412
>The defensive perk tree, but give them reinforced armor (think it comes with the advanced war fare foundry project).
Reinforced is unlocked automatically with improved armor, but yeah, that.
>>147973616
I was pulling numbers from b15 memories, so I hopped on the wiki to double check. You're right, it's not the right numbers.
It's actually every 60 will.
I'm not sure why that got even worse, but frankly I can't say I'm surprised, considering who the developer is.
>>147973968
MAGNIFICENTDESIGN.txt
>>147973968
Where are the numbers (I'm assuming this is UFOpaedia)? Can't seem to find them.
>>147974209
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Psionic_(Long_War)
Section 2.2
Does anyone have the link the skill build tool site thingy
>>147972870
Yes, you're essentially being punished for camping. It was a great tactic doing this in EU:
>Move blue
>Overwatch
>Kill all pods as soon they appear
>Repeat
I'd recommend you still overwatch, but only with half your troops or so. The other half are scouting (until you train a scout Ranger). As for the Stun Lancers you should have magnetic rifles when they appear and be able to one-shot them. Also have a ranger with Bladestorm scout the way. He will kill off the Stun-Lancers as soon as they get near him.
>>147974294
I think you can hit 3 DR pretty easily, but that's about the most you can expect. Let me know if these numbers sound off.
Start off with a 35 will soldier, Medic will progression on average is +28, will progression from psi tanks is about +18, inspiration is +30, and combat drugs is +20. Add in Stead fast for another +5.
35+28+18+30+20=136.
Looks like breaking 180 would be really difficult though, Maybe if you started with a 48 will soldier (can you?) and then got everyone max roll for will gain and then took every perk for will gain while all having combat drugs and inspiration. Obviously not very feasible.
>>147975398
>psi tanks
meant to be psi RANKS
Also I realized that I forgot about Long War Officers. If you took pure will stat padding perks, they can add up to +21 will, so you actually can break the 180 mark.
>>147975398
2.5 DR from mec 5.
.5 from Automated Threat Assessment
1 from one for all.
So 4 base DR. Then you get absorption field, Shock-Absorbent Armor, damage control, and mind merge.
Heavy vessel guns in Piratez are fucking bullshit. They are only useful against big ships and you can't fit them on anything that can actually catch up to the big ships.
>>147975838
Yeah meant specifically just mind merge. So anyway: The 4 base DR, the +3 from Mind Merge, then +1.5 from damage control put's you at 8.5.
So 8-9 DR after the first hit, and the reductions from absorption fields (40% after DR) and 33% from shock abosrbants, and you have core armoring which gives immunity to crits, with repair servos, and you can still heal them with medkits.
Seems like Goliath's can still be super-tanks to me.
>>147976501
Heavy guns are good against gunships and other medium craft (which is good, because guships often are used to hunt for your hidouts). Also if the big ships ever slow down to about 2,250 then a Kraken can engage them. I actually use three Kraken right now and they all have 3 Heavy Weapon slots. I then use one high speed fighter (I think 4,500 max speed) to chase down other factions fighters.
>>147971862
it has a certain rythm
you have to make a plan in your mind which way you achieve the objective and leg it after if its that kind
concealment mean rush to your desired spot
break the concealment in a great spot, preferably on the ayylums turn
use a scouting ranger and you can continue moving fairly rapidly
LOS preview mod is a great addon for this
>>147973374
im bretty sure i was mad dashing half of the map quite a few occasions otherwise i wouldnt even reach the exit point with blue moves
>>147952021
She looks cold. Bare mod worth the fucking around to get working?
>>147972565
This needs more elaboration.
What is "utility scouting"? Battle scanners and such?
Can we get some examples of support utility? Buffing other squad members like with the smoke grenades from EW? Offense utility like hacking robots?
Examples of an AOE debuff for the gunner?
Why would I ever take an overwatch Ranger?
And can we get some examples of abilities for the Spec Ops and Partisan, or are you just drawing on the mods for those classes on the workshop?
>>147952021
You need to increase the bitrate
>>147978310
The most effort is having a lover's lab account. After that just download the mod and throw it into the mod folder in xcom2/xcomgame/mods (make one if you don't have one). Done.
If you go to the bottom of the /xcg/ pastebin you can find everything you need.
>>147952021
Those chest and leg tattoos don't look half bad. Could do without the celtic knot bands or whatever those are though.
>Forget that disorientating an Andromedon doesn't stop them from using acid bomb
>Still on plated armor
Instant Evac
>>147978554
The chest leg, and arm tattoos are all the same tattoo slot.
>>147978538
Does the latest version come with the tats though? I'm not just in it for the tits.
>>147979252
Have you checked the !notlewd pastebin yet.
First time playing the new DLC, just got the Last Gift mission. How hard is it?
It's March 18 and I've only got the base weapons and armour, with my highest rank being corporal. Should I wait?
>>147979667
It's recommended that you wait until mag weapons, yes.
>>147979291
Reading through the LL thread at the moment. Many pages of goodness.
After losing three men and scraping two off the EVAC zone with a spatula last time I attempted and failed stealthing the mission, I came out with a flawless. Bueno.Remove xeno.
>>147981786
are you this guy? >>147854921
did you bring back the survivors for revenge?
How is scanning protocol supposed to work? Right now when I use it it just scans an area around my specialist, but it seems like I should be able to tell my GREMLIN where I want it to scan and it goes off and does it.
For example, right now if i want to scan inside a building, I have to move my specialist next to the building. It seems like I should be able to have my specialist chill out where he is and send the GREMLIN in instead.
>>147982140
Yes and no. They were laid up in medical for over a month each. They had to be avenged.
>tfw steam's jpeg compression
>>147982238
If I recall correctly, it only extends the user's line of sight, and thus doesn't work through walls. Good for fields and stuff, bad for cities. I think that's right. I think. I never use it.
>>147983284
Reminder to hide and report off topic shitposting like this.
>>147945234
>But then again he has a hilariously broken squad.
How exactly does he have a "hilariously broken squad"
>>147984129
Do you watch the stream?
>>147984129
He has a soldier that can clear entire rooms by himself because of the guerrilla war reaper perk.
>>147928690
I think your dedication is admirable, cyclops guy. It's also fun to watch people sperg out about a single post per thread.
I assume it's better to AP grenade everything and make it out of there alive than the alternative
LW Sniper builds?
>>147985108
go away, cyclops poster
>>147985595
Personal favorite. Effective the entire game, and works wonders late-game.
Lone Wolf > Precision Shot > Sharpshooter > VPT > Bring 'Em On > Mayhem
A crit build in the field of fucking everything up. This build literally could not care what you throw at it, it'll take it all. Even better if you have squad support in the name of a rocketeer with a shredder. Launch one of those and you can take shit out like level 9 outsiders IN ONE SHOT. The most glaring weakness of this build however is that it's more focused on single target annihilation. If you get two ayys out of cover and need both dead with the least amount of actions spent as possible, an ITZ/Double Tap sniper shine a lot better.
That didn't stop me from taking them all campaign however, they're fucking hungry monsters who will gladly crit all things on sight. Give them a gauss rifle and you can say goodbye to all mechs ever
Ironmaning my first xcom 2 playthrough wasn't one of my better ideas...
Gunslinger or Aggression for Assault tank?
I know tactical sense is a trap.
>>147987874
Good on you. Taking tac sense on a biotank does indeed fuck you over hard.
Personally I'd say gunslinger. Biotanks will get bogged down with equipment hard if you really invest, so it won't be often you'll be getting good shotgun shots.
>>147987874
>>147988104
Actually hold the fuck up, what is this for?
Because gunslinger doesn't exist in long dong anymore. Are you talking about XCOM 2s Long Dong Perk pack and the assault class there?
>>147988229
Oh whoops, this is outdated then.
http://www.longwartroopbuilder.com/#assault
Steadfast vs close combat survivalist though
did LW make a Laser weapon for the spark?
>>147984303
No because Beagle a shit
>>147984394
How is it different from normal reaper?
>>147988375
Use ufopaedia for stuff like class building, it's probably the most up to date website you'll find about long dong
Steadfast, no question. You need them to be available to take the heat when the situation calls for it(aka things gone to shit). You don't want your assault to be among those losing control of the situation. That, and the tanking perks the assault picks will boost their will quite high, to the point of where they are prime psi-god material. This is all assuming that you're making a biotank. If not, then pick CSS, then visit Shen's chop shop once you can to make a Marauder
>A wild gun modder has appeared
>P90
Absolutely fucking based
>>147990054
The Stargate SG1 conversion is just a little bit closer.
Should I bother with MEC4/5 for a tanking Goliath? Those suits look really lackluster. I've been using MEC7s for everything so far. Jetboots is just so good and body shield looks kind of shit, my Goliaths already can't be crit due to using plate armoring and I'm afraid the -20 aim part of body shield would just make the ayys shoot at something else.
r8 my spark 1
>>147990794
>no name
0/10
>>147984129
Put the pieces together from
>>147883359
>>147988831
Instead of swords it's for pistols, but the pistol doesn't get reduced damage
>>147990154
Indeed.
Muh operator
Anyone has a full tree of al the Perks from LW Perk pack? I know it just released but they usually include it inside one of the folders like in their EU releases. Also, any new perks and not those ported from EU?
>>147990054
>>147991614
>i can finally replace the Long War SMG
Gib.
>>147991614
We operatan now
>>147990746
MEC-7s are beast. Honestly useful for literally everyone, I never found any reason to build others
Hey /xcg/ what uses do you have for SMGs?
Shotguns just seem so better in every way unless you want a pure sword user.
Rifles are just better balanced and specialists just hang back anyway. Some players think Psi Troops are good SMG users since they need the mobility to get into position and don't rely on guns much anyways
>>147990054
Did they move the arm, too? Or is that standard for SMG mods?
>>147992821
SMGs generally give better mobility, which is helpful for flanking shots. It matters more if you made cover more useful in some fashion, like giving it DR like Long Dong.
The lower damage isn't the greatest thing ever but frankly I'd rather have a more mobile soldier do a point less than have a guy forced between yellow moving to full covers and the only blue move covers being half.
>>147992958
Huh, not sure
>>147991614
>The guy who made the P90 also made the SCAR
What's the most operator heavy weapon, shotgun, and machine gun out there?
>>147993516
>>147992958
Looks like the modder answered your questions
>In a game, their hands are correctly holding it, but the menus use a different animation set that doesn't have the "Bind Left Hand" option on, which mean awkward hand positions in the menus.
>>147993876
M249/M60
870 MCS/Winchester 1300
No heavy weapons but other mentions are:
Spec Ops Knife
China Lake Grenade Launcher
>>147996176
I meant stuff that hasn't been ported into XCOM 2 yet but I agree with that list
>>147997150
In that case:
SPAS-12
Stoner LMG (if not the M249 Para)
Heavy weapons are kind of weird since they can only be mounted on the wrist. I guess a PEQ to direct an airstrike on a bitch.
>>147997150
Shields. We need shields. Problem is someone needs to make a shield and then animate everything. Considering Sassy Snek is the pinnacle of animation modding work in X2, my outlook is bleak.
>>147997767
Agreed.
>>147997585
Adding the LSAT as well.
>>147997585
Mk48 bb
I just saw a trailer for the dlc on some video, how long has it been out and how much have I missed?
>>148000029
shen's dong came out pretty recently.
mostly you missed /xcg/ arguing like autists over if robots need hands and a bunch of mods and the mod sdk breaking because jake couldn't fix his shit
also people are pretty divided on ayy kangz
>>148000029
Been out since last Friday.
>>148000029
>how long has it been out
like almost 2
>how much have I missed
SPARKsand nude Shen
Do I get anything for saving more civvies on teror missions in LW?
>>148000514
less panic
>>148000494shen is so ugly though, why would anyone want nudes of that mess?
>>148000494
>almost 2
meant 2 weeks
>Take a break from XCOM
>Decide to boot up Insurgency
>It's infested with 4chan memes
I faintly remember this from when I first played the game. I wonder why.
How the fuck are you supposed toactivate the SPARK? I've had Lily moving all around the damn thing but it won't trigger and there isn't a button to do it.
>>148003493
That kinda makes me want to play it.
I just raided ONE SHIP. JEEZ.
>>148005014
It's a fun game, but it just kinda baffles me. There must be a reason why, but hell if I know. Its a more tactical, objective based, fps, so why the different appeal?. Maybe its because it's outright Americans v. Terrorists?
>>148005193
That's why I don't really bother shooting down ships. Easier to just wait for the one's that land, and get those ship engines and hellerium.
>>147967710
>Advent officer enters overwatch.
Do I get resources from escort missions in EW? Like the corpses and fragments, etc.
>>148006416
yes
>>148005982
Nice
I mean how difficult is it to get meld?
I like to play it safe and keep my soldiers safe so I'm not exactly dashing to the meld.
I also sometimes use explosives to remove cover and kill enemies so there goes the meld from enemies.
>>148007281
Long War or Vanilla
>>148007350
LW
afraid I'm fucking myself over but I value the lives of my soldiers
>>148007452
Yeah, soldiers are ultimately much more important, but you will need the meld for mecs and even foundry projects. One good thing to invest in that you can pick up from the start are motion scanners. They give you three scans and let you be alot more aggressive from the get go. Use them to find un-guarded meld, or start engagements in a favorable position to cut down that first pod safer and quicker.
>>148007281
Use shivs to rush meld. You will be activating pods, but because they will not have line of sight to the rest of your soldiers, you will be able to engage them on your own terms while they wander around confusedly shooting at the shiv.
>>148007980
>>148007594
Better yet, put scanners on those shivs. They are more valuable when you use them on a unit that moves as far as possible on the turn you activate it.
Just use the shivs to scout, don't have them shoot unless it's the only way to save a soldier (IE, enemies left over after all the humans are done shooting), let your gets keep the XP for themselves. Once you get the upgrade, you can then use Shivs to suppress.
>>148008103
Taking shivs the first month is really going to drain you're xp though, even if they don't kill anything.
>>148007980
SHIVs can activate MELD?
>>148008590
Yes.
>>148008525
I always play with "We are legion" turned on, so it balances out.
>>148011637
Kek, nice!
>>148011637
More
Just got the game yesterday. Anyone want to give me some of their custom characters to freshen up my roster?
>everything LWS have released is shit, pointless, or adds OP shit to make an easy game even easier
This is why autismals shouldn't be allowed to mess with things. They don't know what they're doing.
>>148013095
Modding dilemma. Good ideas marred by going too far without any knowledge of game design, because they spend more time tinkering with the game instead of playing it.
Long War for EW itself is retarded, it's classes are dumb, the skill trees are horribly designed, the enemy balance is stupid. You basically need to tweak everything before it becomes playable.
>>148013095
wew lad those are some hot opinions, great way to wake up the thread
>>148013364
Considering most of it conflicts with itself.
Considering that Leader Pack and SMG Pack were useless, because X2 has a "kill em all in one turn" gameplay loop.
I'd imagine that Laser Pack and Perk Pack are fucking stupid as well. The few of the perks I've heard about were just retarded useless shit and Lasers being a 1.5 tech instead of a sidegrade is literally pointless, it doesn't add choice and the game is too short to justify the resource investment, just like with SMGs and upgrading them.
The ideas are nice, their implementation is always about as good as Jake's game design, which is to say literally braindead monkey level.
>>148013053
Shit if i were home id throw you mine
>>148013364
Well, it's also fact. You shut up, you dumb idiot.
>>148013525
You covered it all pretty much.
>>148013053
Ah fuck, I just deleted the game to free some space while waiting for it to get more modded and potentially an expansion pack.I'm going to be a bit pissed if these DLCs are all we're getting, they've all been really disappointing.
>viper rounds+guardian+high aim=kills entire pod all by herselfwewlad
I can't believe i never used special ammo before.
>>148013053
Give me a sec and I'll give you my meme pack
>>148014145
You were missing out that shit is great
>>147950790
I agree
I also think their classes in the first firaxis xcom were shit too.
These guys don't understand gameplay design and their game project will flop as a result.
>>148014163
>>148013053
Here you go
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6cjbe1m4thf1ox6/KONYCOM%20Starter%20Pack.bin?dl=0
You will need these two mods to make it work properly, though
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=638166470
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618102825
How do I stop ayys being able to take a shot when you're discovered in concealment?
>>148007452
You can also use an SMG rookie. It noticeably lowers your damage output on a 6-man squad, but the utility is great. Not only will he always get the meld, he's also very easy to put in flanking positions (which forces ayys to move, often to even more flankable positions, makes them skip shots, vastly limits their available cover, and even the SMG can kill from a flank).
I build them from a minimum 4 base health, + tac vest, motion tracker, armor plate, SMG. Results in 7 health (can't die in one shot to sectoids and will usually tank two in cover) and good to amazing mobility depending on inherent stats.
>>148015920
Shoot first
Remove ayy
>>147958780
Can you change the ugly helmet? Or is it a one piece? I really fear the time when I kill the Viper King and have to give that abomination armour to one of my troops...
>Come back to thread a day later
>People went full pants on head retarded over Cyclops poster
>Even got his (and most of their) posts deleted
Holy shit, how can you be this mad?
Calm down /xcg/, focus on ayys, not on fellow XCOM posters.
>Paul Walker
We need to get Tygan to build us some cars.
Which one did I need less in LW, flight computers or power sources? I know both are necessary but I need the early game boost.
Is it normal to get 21 ayys on an August destroy the relay op?
>>148013525
Going with a flat upgrade instead of a sidegrade has been the norm with Long war since Long War for Xcom1. The weapon tech all increased damage by 1 (or more).
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Primary_Weapons_(Long_War)
Conventional rifle is 3-5
Laser is 4-6
Gauss is 4-8
Pulse is 5-9
Plasma is 6-10
They had differences in special properties, ammo, crit/crit damage and/or AIM.
It was other mods in Xcom1 which introduced side-grades or kept a weapon being competitive with a higher tier weapon - for instance plasma having dogshit accuracy but higher damage'
They haven't changed anything from what they did before so either you liked LW before and are being contrarian now for them doing the same design as before, or you didn't like LW before and LW is not your target audience to begin with.
In xcom 1994 the laser rifle vs ballistic rifle:
-same size
-same weight
-60 laser power vs 30 armor piercing power
-Same auto, same snapshot, aimed: ballistic has 80% TU cost aim and 110% accuracy and laser rifle has 50% tu cost and 100% accuracy
Even in Xcom 1994 there wasn't any sidegrading going on.
Mp5: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721443480
P90: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721312498
>>147849442
Sword Rangers
>>148019836
>Sword Rangers
lmao
>>147849442
Bolt caster is for specialists
Axe for rangers
Grenade for grenadiers
Pistol for gunslinger sniper
>>148019295
>Going with a flat upgrade instead of a sidegrade has been the norm with Long war since Long War for Xcom1.
Did you hear me say they haven't always had this problem?
>>148019295
>Even in Xcom 1994 there wasn't any sidegrading going on.
Because I want the same game I played in 1994 and not something better, right?
Why are you defending stagnating game design practices?
>take a full rookie squad for a supply raid to train them up
>this shit appears
pls no
I didn't bring lube
>>147990054
what are the stats?
>>148020821
Nevermind he was happy to just fuck off after I spooked him enough with an ogrewatch ambush.
>>148019295
>-same weight
Laser rifle is technically less because it didnt need ammo, which is something plasma weapons didnt have either
>>148016743
Cyclops is an ayy
Death to ayys
>>148016865
In this timeline Xcom found Paul Walker after he crashed and Tygan said "we can rebuild him"
>>147847841
late response but shooty robots really aren't as durable as you might think
delicate moving robotic parts controlling a gun aren't as durable as the actual chassis of the robot, and may not be quick enough to catch the suspect
plus, a robot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the life of even a single officer, especially given the situation politically and morally.
>>148020821
What mod are you using to show info above the healt bar?
Rate my mods pliss. Anything I'm missing out on?
>>148024113
Extra icons
>been playing LW on and off since b8
>never gotten past first year due to restarts
who /earlygame/ here
>>148020895
Same as assault rifle I think despite P90 being SMG
>>148019381
>says MP5 is on his wishlist
>go to sleep
>wake up with MP5 released
This guy
>>148025040
Wish more SMG modders would do the long dong thing with +3 mobility but 2-4 ballistic damage.
As far as I know the SMGs out in mods seem to not offer any mobility bonus? They don't list it, at least.
>wake up
>save file corrupted
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>148025040
>2 mods in quick succession
>>148026359
>Look at his update notes
>He says he's tired as hell after rushing it
>>148025040
I think you could tweak the values in config, right?
>>148026597
Yup
>>148025040
>E3245 says it's actually a UMP 45
These guns look so similar though
>>148026793
>E3245 says it's actually a UMP 45
Is he blind? It's an MP5 front to back.
>>148026909
His argument is that BF3 didn't have a MP5 model which is where Apathy said he got it from
I'm pretty sure that really looks like a MP5, UMP is a bit shorter
>>148027023
BF3 does have an MP5. Pic related.
>>148027245
E3245 dun goofed
The consequences will never be the same
>>148027245
That's an HK53.
http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/HK53
The only MP5 variant in BF3 was the MP5K
>>148027521
Oh wow. It is.Germany, what the hell?
>>148027521
THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME
>>148027682
>Tfw Numeric Health Display will never ever be this nice looking again
Is there a mod to add this helmet?
For that matter hit me up with all the Russian themed mods you got senpai
>>148028923
>firaxis in charge of UI
>firaxis in charge of fucking shit up with DLCs
>>148029137
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650242049
Here you go, comrade.
>>148027681
>>148027682
A quick look on the internet has the answer:
>Capitalizing on the success of their G3 design, the company developed a family of small arms (all using the G3 operating principle and basic design concept) consisting of four types of firearms: the first type, chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO, the second—using the Soviet 7.62×39mm M43 round, third—the intermediate 5.56×45mm caliber and the fourth type—chambered for the 9×19mm Parabellum pistol cartridge.
The HK53 and HK54 (MP5) are both from thatalso the HK53 is technically a HK33 with parts of the MP5
>>148029425
spasibo, tovarishch
>>148029568
This makes my head hurt
Is it me or does XCOM 2 feel forgettable compared to its previous installment
>>148030736
Just your shit taste
>>148030736
it has it's faults, but XCOM EU is pretty god damned forgettable mane.
Also
>no AK-74
REEEEE
What are the best mods to spice up your playthrough?LW2 when?
>>148029909
It doesn't anymore after you learn more about guns.
>>148030736
I suppose story/whatever shouldn't matter much in an xcom game. Advent is pretty fucking silly though, they speak ayylmao, wear Xbox helmets and bleed orange.The pretense of the game's setting is contrived simply for gameplay purposes. Shen jr and black burger science man are shit characters with no memorable moments. Actually all the cutscenes are shit, with copious amounts of retarded space magic jargon, poor writing, and extremely awkward player insertion.
>>148030736
I put 600 hours into EW because Long War had me in an abusive relationship. Despite the same maps, the variety of combat was jaw dropping and had me hooked.
I have about 120 in X2 and it's difficult to get more. The core problem is that it's an alpha strike simulator. Even with mods, you'll be met with a problem that if you leave someone ayy alive, things will be fucked. Unless it's an Archon with pinions. That's probably the exception.
Who makes the best psi in long dong?
>tfw uniform manager isn't working with the LW Toolbox and Perks
>have to individually put on new camos and colors every mission
is this russian enough
I feel like theres a better uniform mod out there
2nd month of sexcom2 and I got a little extra dosh rolling around. Built a medkit for my specialists, have the choice between a smoke and a flashbang. Which would be more effective?
Flashbang seems nice since with the heavys bonus range would give me better ability to breach densely packed ayy lmao troops. Smoke nade would let them take a more aggressive position though or help out troops if they have to hold low cover.
Vehicle escort in XCOM when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1tJhOhozVA
>>148031673
Looks good.
Post russian operators and cheeki breeks.
>>148031436
Medics and Assaults
Medics are the best at being pure psi. Highest will progression, loads of perks to boost will, and can self buff with combat drugs. These guys are probably the one's who'll be running around with rift in missions when it comes to end game.
Assaults are just as good, although what they lack in the ability to self buff and having a slightly shitter will progression(which is still high), they too have will boosting perks to put them up high. Not only that, but taking those perks sets them up to be a biotank, a really great build for assaults that lets you survive any situation.
>>148030736
There is something about it that makes me able to remember and think fondly of operations a lot less than Xcom1. I can't quite figure out what it is. It could be the dynamic maps (Which are good) means you don't have a distinct layout to really vividly remember. I think for all the mocking we did Solomon was right about his dislike of TFTD being out of connection to the player with its undersea strange landscapes. I don't feel much of any connection to the advent cityscape operations. It's less horror of the unknown rampaging down main street and more that main street is tangible in a way something fitting for the late 21st or early 22nd century (Not in a mere 25 or so years) isn't. I get that's advent making super shiny honeypots to catch civilians but it still feels like a whole new genre, like I am in mass effect rather than earth 2035.
I know I miss UFO landed clearing operations a lot. The UFO in Xcom2 is abysmal to clear and is a chore more than anything (in part thanks to the super quick timer & razor thin walls meaning you can proc the entire map in one or two turns). It would be a major boost if instead of just supply raids you had UFO raids - landed barges, transport ships, assault ships.
>>148031402
I think a reason for Xcom2's forgetability is that by virtue of the setting it isn't Xcom1 - it's closer to Xcom Apocalypse. Not quite since it lacks the political interactions but it does have that city-dominated cyberpunk feeling. You aren't earth on the defense, you aren't managing the bureaucracy of being that defense force but rather a hard scrabble insurgency, you don't feel the weight of going from zero with ballistics and kevlar to hero with plasma and power armor.
>>148031424
Well it still hasn't had its expansion yet.
>>148030736
The cutscenes are clearly worse. Zero meme potential. Where's the CLOSE RANGE? Black science man and Shen jr have zero chemistry together and Bradford went all no fun allowed ever since he lost his sweater.
Mods can fix the gameplay (see: LW) but they can't fix the rest.
>>148031842
Is that an MGS gear mod? How do I get that?
Actually how can I get my guys to look like this?
>>148031910
That's correct, but even with an expansion, the game can only last for so long.
The reason this entire general, hell, the entire community, stayed alive before was because of Long War providing the life support. There is no Long War mod for X2, and it's not clear if there will ever be one. There needs to be a massive overhaul to combat like Long War did to actually make engagements happen
>>148031784
pls respond
>>148032139
>helmet
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650242049
>as val (weapon)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=632040135
>armor/clothing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650731226
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=632252203
>camos
Didn't use any of the camos in that pic, but they're nice to have.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619706632
>>148032276
Flashbang
If aliens are going to be left alive with actions, usually the danger isn't with potshots, but rather their abilities. Smoke grenade doesn't prevent a mindspin into an MC or the likes. Flashbangs however disable pretty much everything, including Codex's abilities to clone and to teleport.
>when advent sets it up just right
Explosions imminent.
>>148032414
Thank you man. I thought it might be Titanfall gear too.
I'm surprised there isn't already a modern BDU mod yet.
>>148032193
One of the issues with Xcom2 is that every game basically plays about the same. There are no CHOICES to be made that aren't superficial other than dealing with dark events. Which is a decent change.
>>148031784
Did you fix the hit rate/crit rate thing?
If so flashbang.
>>148033131
There's an issue with it? Had used the flashbang a little before, and it still seemed like the ayy lmaos had a decent chance of hitting but I chalked that up to a lucky shot and just redid the encounter to avoid the use of the flashy bangs.
>>148030736
It was Rob Zacny that said that after XCOM 2 was released NO ONE was talking about it and he's right.
The Three Moves Ahead episode they did on XCOM 2 was perfect.
>>148032193
You gotta remember the game came out this February, so it's been out 5-6 months now. Long Dong, unless I am mistaken, came about in early 2014 - so a bit more than year after Xcom2012 came out in Late 2012.
We already know LW plans another -mod- (Not sure if it is overhaul or not) after the ayy pack. Be optimistic, especially since while the toolkit isn't perfect and has bugs it's more than anyone had for Xcom2012.
>>148033283
The problem is that the game does only one roll for both chance to hit and chance to crit. So if your hit rate is lower than your crit rate then your crit chance becomes 100%.
There's mods to make it less retarded but that's the default behavior.
So the side effect of flash bangs is that they give the ayys nearly 100% crit rate.
>>148033283
The issue actually lies with how the roll system is done.
A flashbang reduces the aim but leaves crit untouched, which by X2s roll system, means that if they manage to hit anyway, the chance of a crit is actually higher.
>>148033478
>>148033581
Oh, I see. I understand perfectly. I am guessing theres a workshop mod or something that gives them individual rolls?
>>148033736
Yes!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=624799134
>MP5 on the workshop
All we need are bike helmets and the old style vests and my dream of 90's operators will be a reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTkkysQPGhM
Why can't X2s combat music be this good?
>it's a the first pod you see on a landed large is the command pod episode
>>148035079
Get ready for some wave defense boy
>no small upgradeable bases with turrets and booby traps and shit
missed opportunities.
>>148034430
Because hes too busy withe DX:MD
I hate how they changed the action cam into the disappointment cam.
There a cheat to end a mission?
Because nobody can hack the console and I have eliminated all the enemies in the AO
>>148032414
Alright how's this
Trying to make my guys look like near future assault/breacher type troops. Not too futuristic tho
>>148036239
gitgud.exe
>>148036350
Cheeki/10
>>148036615
cheeki means good right
heres another
>>148036850
Yes, and they look good.
Alright so lets get togethor our (reasonable) expectations for the expansion. What do you want to see?
Third faction?
Expanded weapon/armour tiers?
Post-vanilla campaign content (AKA TFTD)?
More tacticool customization?
Better DLC intergration?
Is there a way to only use some characters from my character pool?
Like say i want to run a campaign that uses only faceless mooks but I don 't want to delete my OC donut steels
>>148037321
Export your OCs to a folder then import them back in when you want em
>>148037245
>Post-vanilla campaign content (AKA TFTD)?
This one, through my hopes of it are low.
>>148037245
>What do you want to see?
From your list, I like the additional campaign content and a theoretical third faction (though who they'd be and what they'd be about is a mystery to me).
I personally would *love* to see SHIVs dammit, as well as the ability to make small firebases on continents (for storing small insurgency teams at and using as staging grounds for combat operations).
>>148037214
Here's another. Hard not to use the Titanfall gear cuz it looks so damn good.
Shame I missed out on Titanfall, game had some 10/10 aesthetic
>>148037245
EXALT
>>148036352
I would but apparently I employ a bunch of cavemen who can't press button.
>>148037245
>Third Faction
Since we cyberpunk nao I liked the idea of going further with rogue AI. I don't know who Julian is as I haven't gotten to the DLC but the idea of a shodan AI going haywire and trying to defeat the Ayys as well as enslave the humans works for me. Give them armed gremlins as a separate unit (Think the ol' drones from 2012 Xcom), MECs, Sectopods, those floaty squid type ayys from EW, some kind of humanoid android, and maybe an intermediate heavy MEC between a MEC and a Sectopod.
Problems being bluescreen, EMP, and specialists can make mincemeat of them.
>Post-vanilla campaign content (AKA TFTD)?
I don't see that happening if they continue the "addon, not standalone/sequel" angle of expansions a'la Civ 5 Expansions. It would be neat but they can also just wait for a full on TFTD. Though for a third faction they could do something akin to the Point Phoenix Ayys - in Xcom2's case being the vanguard of the floaty shit that just precedes the floaty psi energy at the end of the campaign. Coming from the sea, infecting humans and sea animals and so on.
Or go kinda Xcom Apocalypse - 2-3 competing resistance groups you can work with or against.
I'd like >>148037715 too. And a greater sense of being able to be (cont)
>>148037894
>wanting more human enemies
wew
>>148037782
I wish the textures were higher res. I use the pack to make my robot legion.
>>148038204
>EXALT
>enemies
>>148037894
>Vahlen creates Neo-EXALT, and allows them to advance to plasma weapons and power armors.
>Neo-EXALT is then used to find out what the tiberium knockoff shit is; and to fight the ayys on their own termsand take over the ADVENT Administration
>Story mission that introduces Neo-EXALT: Tygan investigates a vein of tiberium, located near a Resistance town, back to it's source; and discovers Neo-EXALT experimenting and collecting samples of tiberium.
>>148038563
what are good robot voices?
>>148038852
Seconding this. Also does the MEC voice pack have Russian?
>>148038852
I use Delta 38 Boss for squad leaders, Legion for male soldiers, and EDI for female.
Honorable mention to Master Chief/Cortana combo. Wish it had static.
There aren't very many Machine Gun mods.
No PKP/PKM or MG3? :(
>>148038852
I like SHODAN, CABAL, and the Moonbase Alpha voices for my SPARKs, personally.
>>148038852
I use geth prime for my sparks, sounds scary.
Do you need to start a new campaign for the DLC or can you just keep playing the current one?
>XCOM forgets which mods are enabled
>Hit enable all, go through disabling what I don't want
>I forget WaveCOM
>Load my Ironman save
>SHITFUCKGODDAMNIT
>The game is now lost, trapped forever in a mission that crashes upon EVAC attempt
RIP. I have no one to blame for this but myself.
>>148038852
CABAL
>>148040325
You can just keep going, it'll give you the option to add the content. You have to start a new game for the special missions, though.
>>148040624
Cool. Looks like I'm waiting for a toolbox fix though. Can't play without my delicious second wave options.
A curious thought sprang to mind. If, in the absence of XCOM, Advent was suddenly beset by the extra-dimensional Micronoid aliens from Apocalypse, how would that war have concluded?
>>148038789
>Vahlen faction is some sort of bio-horror alien-animal hybrids to compete with ADVENT techno-aesthetics
I would dig itturns out is the micronoid first stage of invasion
>>148040912
Probably badly for ADVENT
They're too focused on not only keeping the civilian population in check, but there's also that plague thing mentioned in the books that resources are being diverted to. ADVENT simply doesn't have the means to fight a full scale war against someone that's also advanced at this point, and would likely get overwhelmed.
>>148041564
That's one thing i don't get about Xcom2, where did all the ayys go? At first i thought maybe they just left to do their thing and the Ethereals just stayed behind hidden with minor forces to occupy the planet, but in Shen's Last Gift Julian says that the Ayy ships are still in orbit, so what gives?
last one
r8 my slavs
>>148041752
Might be leftovers from the invasion fleet. Possibly converted into processing ships or something(have to make floaters into archons somehow).
Those ships never appeared as reinforcements when the network tower went down and shit went bad. Nor did they appear in the concluding cutscenes, where people were starting to retake the planet.
>>148041752
>>148042208
I kept expecting some banter between Angelis and the Ethereal that was supporting you because i thought maybe he had betrayed the others, but it never happened.
>enemy reinforcement on first mission
>I can handle that.jpeg
>2 stun lancers and an officer dropped
>JUST
>FUCK
>MY
>SHIT
>UP
>SEMPAI
this has to be a bug right? stun lancer don't spawn until april, and this is literally the FIRST mission that guarantees a engineer after Gatecrasher in March.
fix your broken game Jake FFS
>>148042208
>Possibly converted into processing ships or something
I think Lilly says most alien manufacturing centers (tech, materials, soldiers, etc) are on the ground
What the fuck are the ships doing i have no idea, mining asteroids?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721443480
MP5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>148042384
The supporting Ethereal is likely Asaru, I don't see another explanation.
>>148040740
Given that I'm playing with the DLC and the LW TB right now and everything seems fine, I'm not sure what the issue is. I'd try it.
>>148043117
i through it was just the personalization (etherealization?) of the psionic link with the other ayys, but that doesnt make sense
>>148040912
In direct ground combat? I feel Advent would devastate the Micronoids. Early Micronoid life forms are not designed for long term occupation as they can only survive from hours to several days at most. Even the elite Micronoid units may not be able to hold against mid-tier Advent units. But as it stands, Micronoids are the much better infiltrator due to their Brainsucker's ability to bypass psionics and permanently take control of one's brain. And with Advent's rigid structure it would be too costly for them to screen their troops for who's infected or not.
And furthermore, what happens when a Mothership drops an Overspawn down in a populated area...?
>>148042784
You're playing on Legend I presume
I recall that on Legend you start on force level 3, which is literally the first level at which you get stun lancers. So working as intended
>>148042784
It's not a bug. It's just XCOM BABY
>>148021997
What armor mods are those? Fucking Paul Walker looks like some kind of half mec half giant abomination. I like it
>speaker gets curbstomped by a mob
>is there to berate you in the next mission anyway
Fucking thin mints
>>148042784
Better lube up
>>148043409
Robo arms and legs are from Dor's Titanfall gear
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650731226
And the chest and the forearm things are from Kablamo's Xcom EU ports, T2 ones to be more specific
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660878813
The headset cap is from CapnBub i think
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618977388
He also has a hex face paint on his cheeks but i don't remember what mod that's from.
>>147910372
Excellent idea.
>>147910372
That's the only way it would make sense, isn't that also how it works in 40k? The commisar shoots the coward so everyone else doesn't run?
Which do you prefer for your squad a e s t h e t i c?
Anarchists?
Modern day Operators
Cyberpunk near future (DX:HR)
Cyberpunk far future
Space Marines
>>147910372
Massive buff but renders them all shaken when you RTB (The survivors, anyway).
Apart from the guy who shot his team mate, he's fine.
>>148044419
>Modern day Operators
>Cyberpunk near future (DX:HR)
generally a mix between these and if im feeling it some odd balls in the group
>>148044419
Random gear chucklefucks slowly becoming OPERATORS as they rank up
>>148033848
>Cheating
>Going against Jake's all mighty natural plan
I have never seen a soldier get anything but Gravely Wounded after being hit, no matter for how much HP, even with the Wound Recalibration mod. Is there a mod that actually doesn't make it retarded?
>>148045581
So what does he see through anyway? Just looks like his whole fucking face is covered with armour with some random lamps on for aesthetics.
Emergency evac please, page 10
>>147950696
MODS
>>148046038
i assume they are multi spectrum optics but thats just me
>>148044419
The only "rules" i follow is that i leave them as they are when i first get them, unless they have fancy gear, like halo or something like that, then i'll change it to either anarchy stuff or just kevlar stuff.
Then when i get to T3 i change it to cyberpunkish looking stuff for most and halo gear for thebig guyslike grenadiers and gunners, psi guys get their own fancy stuff, like skin tight shit or the vanilla tron armor, and fancy hats like either the avatar mask, the vanilla powered helmets or the andromedon hat from the alien rulers.
