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Infra Arcana 18.2 released: https://sites.google.com/site/infraarcana/downloads
Release Notes: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/martin-tornqvist/ia/v18.2/assets/release_history.txt

New Demon Release introduces Relic upgrades: http://demon.ferretdev.org/devblog/71-upgrade-complete/

Poschengband 5.0.0 released (breaks save compatibility!)
http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=111423&postcount=233

Vanilla Angband Comp(until July 6)
Elf Warrior with a permacursed Deathwreaker:
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Webterminal
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm online with shared map and tons of other roguelikes in a simple online package! (USA Only)
http://roguenex.us

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/pkf1qnuZ

Old, cursed general : >>147272905
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>>147418230
How do I into Gozag?
I wanna be a Jew Crawler but always fail to do so
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>>147418353
Play a mummy fighter/monk/gladiator and do the safety dance.
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>>147418230
So is the poschengband meant to imply that no matter how good you are, something bigger will fuck you up?
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>>147418353
One way is to just play a race that doesn't need chunks, i.e Spriggans or Mummies.
Then
>accumulate dosh
>fund shops to git gud gear
>save up more dosh to Bribe branch ends
>realize that Bribe is the single most broken ability in the entire game
It's worth noting that Gozag is practically tailor made for mummies since they don't need food to begin with AND he gives them access to potion effects, which they normally can't get.
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>>147418547
I'm pretty sure that it's about the fact you have to kill stuff like elder gods and regular gods of many different mythologies which are generally a big deal
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>>147418632
>>147418547

Could also be a reference to the boss being a giant snake.
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>>147418230
>DCSS
An accurate depiction of the brain on Be.
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>>147418230
I don't get the CoQ one.
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>>147419479
Do you love to suck CoQ?
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>>147419479
It's because it's still in development.
and always will be
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>>147418552
Is it really impossible to survive only on preservable food?
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>Close door behind me after getting chased by hydra
>Turn corner into melee range of a porcupine while at 10 health
>Meph cloud it since only enough mana for one spell and blink fucked me over multiple times against the hydra, hence low health
>Both of us confused, no biggie
>Take one step to get out of cloud
>Spiny frog rounds corner from out of sight and attacks me in one turn, killing me
I am become death, splatter of characters.
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>>147420586
You forgot the last line
>I play nothing but real roguelikes
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>>147420940
>>147420586

>>147421106
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>>147421143
All me.
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>>147421192
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Cockulus is doing good, finally found a source of lev, so now I can grind dragons for days.

Tried plunging into the castle, got stomped in and was forced to expend my stock of 4 heal pots
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>>147421239
>life
>not nature
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>>147421315
I gave my friend a list of races, classes and personalities, this is what happened.

He wanted her to administer sexual healing, so he chose life.
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>>147421370
>her
>golem
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>>147421795
I joke with my friend that's it's an animated japanese (female) sex doll, and it aggravates because it constantly emits stock porn sound effects at max volume.

So her works, even though it's technically a construct.

It's all good fun.
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>>147421937
>it aggravates
that sounds terrible in the mid-endgame
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>>147421937
that's far better than i imagined

this needs to be drawn
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>>147421995
Yep.
Sexy is pretty bad.
Though lategame you're just recalling in and out to get *healing* and murder uniques anyway.
Also, most of the best items aggravate, so it ends up not really mattering.

>>147422026
Working on it. I'll work more on it later.
I didn't use a reference because I hate myself and want to die.
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>>147422092
>I didn't use a reference because I hate myself and want to die.
Sounds like the average PCB player.
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>>147422137
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>>147421239
wait what
how is sexy a 'personality'
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>>147422326
sexy = haughty and prideful
Says so in the description.

It's also obviously a joke.
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>>147422371
Sounds like bloat to me.
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>>147422508
Congrats on having an opinion?
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>>147422508
you're face is bloat

thats why you dont like sexy people

bloaty mc bloatface
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>>147422656
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>>147422656
NO BULLY!
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>>147422656
Rekt
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>>147418353
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>>147407064
Staves aren't the best idea since they haste everything in LOS.
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Play some roguelikes FUCK
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>>147426923
FUCK playing roguelikes.
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>>147427195
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lel

Shame I get an icky wield penalty which fucks my failrates a bit, since Bolshoi has a +4 chr bonus.
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http://nethack.org/#News
neat?
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>>147427880
With all the variants around, who cares honestly.
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>>147427980
This. They left it untouched for way too long, no one cares about vanilla NetHack any more.
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>>147427880
That looks awesome in my opinion.
I've gotten used to the UI whenever I've played it over the years but now I can't play it anymore after playing Nethack 4.
I'm hype.
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>>147427980
>>147428045
...They're bringing in the two most important variant devs?
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>>147428159
They're bringing them in to do exactly the same things they've already done in the variants.
It's just gonna be Nethack4 with maybe some Un features.
Mark my werds
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>>147427468
I'm doing it. I'm doing her in the butt.
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>>147427468
Satori would never say that

Koishi is obviously manipulating her.
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>>147428215
>They're bringing them in to do exactly the same things they've already done in the variants.
copying shit from variants has always been an important part of nh development.
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>>147427880
>Nethack4 and UnNethack devs joining the official devteam

holy shit

nethack renaissance?
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>>147418230
>no separate MuMo entry
shit list
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>>147428763
>I literally cannot live without memes being funneled into my asshole 24/7
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>>147429090
Yes, and?
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>>147427468
I wanna do it in your butt

>>147429204
I have a meme for you right here
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>>147429315
>two (You)s in one post
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>>147415034
>this would have made lovecraft cry
Exactly. It's everything that Lovecraft feared and demonized.

>and is making miyazaki cry RIGHT NOW
Miyazaki is a pedo cuck who directs pretty but shitty Disney knockoffs. His opinion is trash. It holds no value.
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Let's do this shit... after I unload excess crap
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>>147429516
Then you really want this spicy meme huh?
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>>147429749
I'm not sure.
I wasn't really following any conversation, just funposting.
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>>147429802
Don't play coy. He's saying he wants to stick his benis up your butthole.
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wow are they really going to make shoals/swamps and snake/spider only 2 floors deep. wtf
i hate dcss now
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>>147429551
>Exactly. It's everything that Lovecraft feared and demonized.
It's actually the complete opposite of what Lovecraft feared and demonized. He feared insignificance and vastness, Gookshit puts individual humans into the spotlight and makes the eldritch orbit around them, then says "b-but they do it for INCOMPREHENSIBLE reasons!"
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Rekt
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THIS guy comes up to you in the dungeon and smacks you in the @.
How do you respond?
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>>147429802
Im funposting aswell, just wanna stick my dick into your butt and play roguelikes
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>>147430203
No, not that. It's the corruption of good white folk(Lovecraft's work) through aggressive interracial breeding(weebification), resulting in something that bears some shallow resemblance to what it once was, but is obviously and inherently twisted into something wrong and monstrous.
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>>147430364
Kill it, possess it's corpse and wear The One Ring
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>>147430609
Really? I heard lovecraft basically was a NEET who was just afraid of the people outside in his neighborhood. Hell, if he was born now we would have no lovecraft books, just another /pol/ shitposter
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Teleported into what was probably a gold dragon

Quite anticlimactic, id rather ave died to something I could actually see.

Reminds me of why I stopped playing, oh well, I know im going to run in ass first tomorrow anyway.
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>>147431001
And no, I had no equipment that could have provided sound resistance. It was a pure and simple 'fuck you' teleport
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>>147431278
Good doujin
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>>147430994
>just another /pol/ shitposter
That's pretty much what I just said, anon.

The horror of interracial breeding is a recurring theme in Lovecraft's work, and Nyaruko the anime is an example of horrific interracial breeding. It would have terrified Lovecraft.
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>>147429551
>Miyazaki is a pedo cuck who directs pretty but shitty Disney knockoffs.
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>>147431497
At least he understands that much.
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>>147431497
>Ah, Miyazaki-senpai is talking mad shit again.
>My throat hurts.
>He talks too much.
>I wish I was at home, playing with my airplanes.
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>>147430994
>>147431391
Lovecraft was based, he had a cat called niggerman.
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i have

include = ibm_glyphs.txt
char_set = ibm

in my crawl settings but it just ignores it and keeps using ascii, how do i get the ibm char set to work? i just want those sleek solid walls
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>>147431391
Aha, well, we are in agreement then. Sorry, anon, I just don't speak a lot of 4chan. I never watched nyaruko. So I wouldn;t know about the themes of breeding in that anime.
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>>147431770
You have to do it manually.

Find the ASCII code for solid blocks and set the glyph using the options.
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Hey ereybody, I'm back!

Do I look prepared for the swamp? Cause I sure as fuck don't feel prepared.
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>>147432114
damn, alright. why'd they remove the best character set? why's the file even in my settings folder if i can't use it
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>>147432130
>/v/
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>>147432130
You should really get that EV to 30. Your defenses are kind of low for branches, but you should be fine. Be very diligent about fighting with your ice bros. around.
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>>147432225
>Alpha Centauri
Nah, he is cool.
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>>147432225
>>/v/
Its an Alpha Centauri thread, I don't give a shit which board its on I'm gonna fight to keep it alive.
>>147432256
I've been trying to raise muh ice magic to try and get an alternative way to get some dps since I can't find another summoning book to save my fucking life.
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>>147432393
You're a Merfolk, just hitdudes
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>>147432649
Fine, but the icebros won't be great forever.

Also, what's up with this crap?
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Last night I had a dream about a ruk thrower (a man with down syndrome) searching for the land of the ruk throwers. There he met up with his two identical brothers and their cranky mother. I don't recall much of the dream but before he reached his destination he got into a fight on a bridge which somehow made it break down and fall apart.
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If I have a hand weapon in elona, which stats apply to ranged weapon's damage? EX, which stats on this weapon would apply to ranged damage? I can assume that the 3d3 does not apply but I'm wondering if the +5 hit, the +5 damage, the ####+ critical rate, et cetera, apply to ranged as well. I know the Eye of Mind will because it's a passive skill and not a modifier like the others. What about a weapon like Black Monkshood with +nerve and +poison damage, how is their application handled? Basically, I'm asking if weapon stats are local or global to attacking.
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>>147430609
No, that's just one of many things Lovecraft was neurotic about. The "Lovecraftian" aspect, the one he's famous for, the thing of his that was influential, is not that.
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>>147432820
>a ruk thrower (a man with down syndrome)
wha
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HELP!
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>>147433020
>ogres
>rukplayers
It's pottery.
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>>147432715
Looks like some gloves
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>>147432964
I'll always laugh at uncomfortable leftists who keep trying to squelch the xenophobia in Lovecraft's works.

They keep trying to redefine "Lovecraftian" to mean "spooky stories involving squid aliens" in an effort to make it more palpable.
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>>147433058
>no fog
you get the fuck away from that angel before he smites you and AS SOON AS YOU BREAK LOS you read teleport.
You should be able to outrun almost everything in the abyss but if you don't break LOS immediately you have a 1/5 chance of being dead no matter what you do.
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>>147433058
Its too late for you
Summons could hold them off as you run away maybe?
Remember to stop and consider EVERY SINGLE MOVE
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>>147432964
I didn't use the term Lovecraftian, anon.
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>>147433269
Hang a quick left then? That seems like the fastest way to get away from that fuck.
>>147433320
He's been ignoring the summons before I posted that. I don't think he'll stop for them, or even fell them, now.
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>>147433269
I thought only Daevas had smite
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>>147433448
by jove, you're right.

>>147433409
you're safeish. Just pop tele and fuck off.
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>>147433265
You seem to be slightly deficient when it comes to reading comprehension, mate. I never denied that aspect of his persona or writings, I said it wasn't the essence of what made his works influential or innovative.
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>>147433660
He said "I'll always laugh at uncomfortable leftists...".
That's enough of a reason to think he's just a /pol/poster.
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I hung a left right into a raiju and alligator simulacrum to try and avoid an abom in front of me. Tele didn't go off in time.
GG

Welp, time to start something else. Whats ya'll recommend?
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Can you not find elemental hounds in the area around outpost in PCB anymore? I've been looking in the level 20 wilderness for a while to magic missile them for easy levels but they don't seem to be biting.
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>>147433768
Your tabs aren't memey enough to include in the screenshot.
0/10 apply yourself.
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>>147433265
The thing is that he was a xenophobe, but his work was mostly not affected by it. At least not on the way people think

The most famous example, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, was inspired by the horror he felt when he discovered one of his ancestors was *gasp* Welsh
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Do vampires have Mutation Immunity (and rot instead) when bloodless? Or can they mutate while bloodless too?
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>>147433873
They don't spawn in the wilderness since 4.0.x I think.
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>>147433874
Lets try this then.
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>>147433939
Xenophobia does not mean "white man afraid of niggers", anon.
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I started playing Frozen Depths last night. So far it's not so bad. Does it get much harder later on?
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>>147434212
No, but the guy I'm replying to seems to think so. He specifically brought up that Lovecraft was inspired by the concept of white people becoming corrupted via interracial breeding
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>>147434367
Good white people. Welsh are bad white people.
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>>147434442
The fuck? How?
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>>147434156
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>>147434442
If you want to shitpost about lovecraft just post that poem already, everyone knows it
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>>147434480
Being white wasn't as simple back in the day. You could have white skin but still be a brown man.
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>>147434480
Slavs, italians, and the irish were all non-white at some point, for example.
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>>147434565
That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with Strange aeons, even death may die?
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>>147430994
The difference between Lovecraft and your average racist is that Lovecraft managed to channel his fear of black people into some really unnerving novels. I'd like to think that if he was a /pol/ shitposter, he'd just write stories about whatever /pol/ shitposters are afraid of. Ancient jewish conspiracies or something?
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That's one Hell of a way to end a first run.
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>>147434852
Big strong bulls fucking /pol/ waifus.
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So, what should I be aiming for with this bastard? I can get him running easy but I don't know where to go. I'm assuming get more int to transition into more ranged focused battle mage and stay light in armor.
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>>147424910
But if you have any kind of detection you can use it around a corner so nothing's in LOS.

It's nice to have an infinite source of speed that early on.
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>>147434852
He married a jewish woman and was notorious for going on rants about jews while talking with her
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has anyone here played pathos? pretty cool nethack based roguelike
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>>147435049
>-3306/48
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>>147435096
I can't tell from the icons, do you already have spectral weapon?
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>>147435334
No, not yet. Not that it matters. Had to start over, stepped out for one turn and instantly got orc smited to death.

How good would it even be with the spectral having to be in melee with me rather than a spear?
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>>147432835
Don't think anybody knows. I wondered the same in the past, and saw other people also wondering the same thing.
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>>147435167
12.0 on 10.0 scale of /pol/ness.

He could only be more /pol/ if she was also a man and he was complaining about gay jews while receiving the D.
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>>147432835
I could be wrong, but I believe the stats with the sword icon indicate stats that apply only to that weapon.
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>>147435432
Then pick spears for your next game

And try a demigod next, High Elves have shit HP
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>>147434352
Probably gets harder. Nobody in rlg has beaten it, but it might just be unknown/unpopular.
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Question: Do you have a way to know if there's a unique monster in a level of a dungeon in PCB? I don't want to explore the whole place just to not find anyone.
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Should I take Hepliak or wait for Oku?
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>>147436214
It is supposed to have a twist at the end, at least according to the roguelike radio podcast.
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>that con and chr
I really could not be much happier.
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Dungeon guardians have to be the most retarded change about PCB in a long time
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So are colossi just shittier maulers? They seem pretty good so far, movement speed thingy is a little bit annoying though.
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>>147436469
Actually, now that I think about it, Qazy seems like the best choice. Perhaps not as great as Oku since it'll take a lot more invocations but the clouds and rain will benefit the Mf and give me some AoE that I don't have.

What do ya'll think?
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>>147436931
Monster golems in general are basically monster maulers, yes. The main advantage they have over regular maulers is their intrinsic attack which you can rely on instead of being stiffed for weapons through a big chunk of the game. The disadvantage is they lack pretty much all of the cool powers maulers get, though they end up with a bunch of nice intrinsic resists and such.
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>>147436396
pls respond ;_;
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>>147436856
Yeah, I don't really like the change either. It removes being super stealthy and diving for loot way out of your depth which is fun (and usually gets me killed anyway).

I guess the idea was to prevent acquirement cheese?
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>>147418427
is there a version of this with sound somewhere?
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>>147437145
Palantir of westerness has an activation that tell what uniques are on the floor
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>>147437145
You don't.
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>>147437145
Think the uniques when not killed can spawn again later.
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>>147437190
>>147437226
>>147437216
OK, got it. Thanks.
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>>147437145
Generally uniques of similar depth will raise the level feeling. If you're a monster race hunting for your boss, there will be a special feeling.

If you're after some low level wanted dude I don't think you can tell.
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Just noticed that third property, doesn't affect me since I use easy_id but pretty neat if you don't.
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>>147437564
There's a rarer auto-identify property, too. Nice for randarts only games, though unlike the stone of lore your ID hat can be destroyed in your bag.
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So what's the impression on Uskayaw?
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Is anymore proof needed that Chei is best god?
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>>147436396
you should basically never be fully exploring levels anyways

it's a boring waste of time and there are literally INFINITE new levels.
unless you're playing ironman. don't play ironman

one exception: if you get a "special" level feeling, there's an artifact somewhere and it might be worth your time to full-clear the level

remember though: any artifacts/uniques you leave behind can spawn again in future levels, unless you kill the unique/identify the artifact
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>>147433873
I found nexus hounds one day near the dragon mountains in 5.0.0
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>>147437706
mpa-pcb has randart stones of lore keep the ID property
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>>147433873
I think it was removed. You'll have to kill hydras.
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That was easy, thank you 10d10 fist.
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>>147437434
>>147438135
Talking about special feelings; yesterday I got one in a level, but there was no artifact or special loot on the whole place, and I used magic mapping on the whole level, so I was pretty sure there was nothing.
Well, there was a unique monster in a room, but that's it. So I guess it doesn't guarantee an artifact.
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>>147438596
fug
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>>147438651
i believe you can also get special feeling for greater vaults now, and if you're playing a monster race you get a special feeling if your racial boss is on the level
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>2 roxanne
yay
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>tfw you fuck it all up
I think I'm going to go play some easy games for a little while.
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>>147438651
It's possible it was some junk item like a filthy rag or broken dagger that you ignored.

>>147438851
>i believe you can also get special feeling for greater vaults now
If greater vaults are the ones with permawalls, I've had some that weren't special.
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>>147438902
>Whip of +8 dex
>26 dex total
>wearing a QDA
>11 EV
fucking HOW
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>>147438902
I've figured that the exclusion refers to Roxanne and her name still shows up aside from that as would any other unique's or whatever annotation.
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>>147418230
>sif reworked in crawl trunk
- channel is gone
- at 1* you can cast spells at 0 mana for FREE (no piety cost) in exchange for getting -cast for a few turns. seems pretty gr8 for mu or spriggans or anyone else who loves kiting
- at 3* you get a piety-costing mana regen spell. 3-5 mana per turn, invo-based duration
- and she gets mana for kills now in addition to training (but only 1/3 as much as vehu)
- everything else is the same
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If i leave Pakellas, will i get to keep the super-charged wand once his penance is over?
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>>147439380
>he super-charged a wand
it doesn't make it any better at wanding, it just makes it slightly more efficient for recharging
when you're worshipping the god of INFINITE FUCKING RECHARGING
supercharge rods only please
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>>147439313
http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=ff1bd0964ec39ab475a87de2779313b4afd0ef25

For those interested. It looks neat and I might ctrl-Q my current dude to try this out.
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>>147438851
What does the racial boss do? Just a special unique only that race gets?
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>>147438651
I was wondering, if the overall feeling of the level is yellow or above, is it worth to explore the floor for a while before going doen?
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>>147438902
Nice cropping, shitlord.
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>>147439726
here's an example:
the centipede racial boss is the Multihued Centipede
anyone can run into this unique but player centipedes get more out of it
when they kill him, they have 100% chance to get his unique artifact, they get permanent heroism, and they unlock the ability to reach their final evolutionary form (although that last bit is centipede-specific)
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>>147439726
Perma heroism, and some drop artifact with higher chance too
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>>147439951
>>147439975
Thanks anons!
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>>147439234
thats storm dargon armor
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>>147440521
That is the first time I've ever seen someone wear storm dargon armor. How awful.
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>>147440609
the only other armor i have is crystal plate +0, or scale mail/chainmail/ringmail and no enchant armor scrolls
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why is sack of spiders a one use item now
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>>147440854
because evo was fun so they removed fun
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They finally nerfed Fencer's Gloves.

http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=7b107d32b132f2ab9161fc1fe8f6df618713aefb
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>>147440950
Can;t have fun in roguelikes. That goes against the spirit of the genre.
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>>147440993
They also gave them +Riposte before that:
http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=2f4bd295b5e884232dcfb8373fa9124bb170a615
So now they are +0 gloves {+4 Dex, +Riposte}
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>>147441235
any other awful fucking changes to know about before i decide to replay this SHIT FUCKING GAME
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>>147441019
having fun is too much like nethack so they have to nix it
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>>147441235
Oh nice. I actually really like the change. 100% riposte on LB's sounds insane. Now if they'd just tone down alchemist and some other standarts so that they aren't free wins.

>>147441404
Yo, those gloves were busted AF. +2 gloves of +7 EV were not ok.
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>>147441235
I don't think that's a nerf. Riposting with Axes could get pretty fucking broken.
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>>147432835
The lines in black font are properties of the weapon only. The rest applies to your character.
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>>147441404
They made it so you can read/quaff items off the ground, and then removed it. For some reason.
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>>147441589
You can still read ground scrolls.
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>>147441726
Not in trunk. Just tried it.
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Another stupid question: do you get proficient with a weapon the more you use it or it's something restricted by the class you are using?
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>>147441805
Hit , to select ground tiles.
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>>147441510
Alchemist is a noob trap, anon.
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>>147440854
actually it has a 1/3 chance to unravel after each use
because crawldevs love rng
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>>147441937
Assuming you're talking pcb each class has different caps that you reach the more you use the weapon
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>>147441961
Oh I See It Now.....
Why Make It Any Different Than it Was Before Tho???
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>>147439951
do possesors and rings have a racial boss too?
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>>147442036
Ok, thanks.
>>147442042
Jaden Pls Go.
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>>147442042
Why Do You Type Like This
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>>147441937
What game?
In PCB/Nethack, you gain proficiency when you hit enemies, but you have a skill cap based on class. In PCB you have to hit enemies of a certain level to train skills past a certain rank.
In DCSS it's based on the skill you are training.
Probably other games have this stuff too. Be more specific.
>>147441961
What the fuck canofworms/ontoclasm?
Usually I like the new DCSS tiles, but this is just so shit.
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>>147439838
STOP BULLYING ANONS!
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>>147441972
Alchemist is the the single most busted item you can wear. So is bear spirit, and that is my favorite item.
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>>147442106
Possessor, leprechaun and xorn don't.

Ring technically does but it's a serpent-tier enemy.
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>>147442215
Sorry about that. I was talking about PCB.
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>>147441937
you can see proficiency for your wielded weapon in the ~W screen (or CM), and you can see all proficencies under ~P

when you reach max proficiency for your class it will have an !

>>147442106
ring racial boss is... the only ring enemy in the game, unsurprisingly
possessors actually don't have one
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>>147442284
Bear spirit is outstanding.
Alchemist is a -2 hat that gives you rC+, rF+, MR+, and a bunch of other shit you don't really need.
On that basis alone, it is good, but I would rather wear a +2 helmet {+3 slay} assuming I had my first pip in rC+, rF+, and had rPois.
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>>147439313
Wow is there any reason to play Shithumet now.

Funny how the Veh nerfs were justified by Sif being worse, and now they're just randomly buffing the fuck out of her.
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>>147442151
How Can The Orb Be Real If The Dungeon Isn't Real?
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>titans get a 600% penalty
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>>147442189
I Don't No....Really Makes U Think Tho Huh...???
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>>147442682
They get a 225% penalty.
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>>147442821
Wait, 200% x 300% = 600%? Or am I reading this wrong?
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>>147442938
Monster race titan is 300%. With the exception of dragon realms, the subrace penalty is your exp penalty, not a multiplier.
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>Stronghold: L1
>You see a Greater Hell-Beast

I'm not entirely sure what should I do, but I'm pretty sure I shouldn't engage in combat with it, just by its name.
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>>147442468
-2 hat that gives rC/rF/rN/rElec/rPois/rCorr/rMut with a pip of MR.

rF/rC/rN are all imporant as a first pip (and later, every pip of rN is very important), with rN being the least important early. rElec is extremely nice to have since it'll stop you from burning resist pots, and rPois is very nice to have if you're still in the 3 rune portion of the game. rCorr is ok and the rMut is really nice even if it isn't necessary. MR+ is obviously good. You cover literally every single base by using your head slot on hat, when the best nonartifact head slot item is a +2 helmet of intelligence/sInv or +2 hat of MR/spirit shield. No using your ring slots of resists. No wearing a cloak of rPois over invis. You're free to wear any armour you want vs. a base item with rF. It frees every slot at the cost of -2 AC (in reality -4). Really dumb item. Bear spirit is just as dumb, but only because it gives you double MR pips and rN.
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>>147443164
>powerful healing AND summons for a 225% penalty
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>>147443210
It is a joke monster. It does no damage, but you cannot kill at low levels. (teleports, regens). If you can you get good loot (so I heard).

The lesser hell-beasts are the dangerous ones.
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>>147442821
>>147443331
Ah wait, I forgot that I had PCB patched with some anon's reduced XP modifiers.
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>>147443473
>PCB patched with some anon's reduced XP modifiers.
Link?Or is it in the other thread or something?
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>>147438118
I'VE GIVEN UP
ON TRYING
TO SELL YOU THINGS
THAT YOU AIN'T BUYING
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>>147443801
What?
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>>147443580
You'll have to check the archives. I think he uploaded a binary.
I just have the source and I don't want to set up a cross-compilation environment for PCB.
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>>147443580
I had not uploaded a copy of the 5.0 version yet but here it is: https://www.mediafire.com/?4fj8gezbig7i9ma

inb4 dolphin porn or whatever
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>>147443904
It Is A Song, Anon...
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>>147443987
But what song anon? And how is it a reference to my post?
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>>147443968
damn, i wish it was for 5.0.0
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>>147443968
>no 4.0.1 MPA version
anon pls
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>>147444143
That is the 5.0 version there, my wording was terrible.

>>147444153
Nah.
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>>147443580
if you can compile yourself it's really easy to change global xp modifiers

just go to calc_exp_factor() in birth.c and change "return exp" to "return exp*3/4" or something. Bam, now it takes 75% as much xp to level anything.
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>>147444062
I Don't Know.
And I Don't Know.
Sorry. :(
Google The Lyrics Maybe???
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I can't decide what the fuck to play for the life of me, so i'll leave it to the SingleDigit Gods (or convince me which one to play):
1) DDAr of Pakellas
2) OgWz of Gozag
3) VpWz of Gozag
4) NaTr of Gozag
5) OpTr of Gozag
6) VpNe of Yredelemnul
7) TrMo of Jyva
8) DDAr of Gozag
9) TeWz of Gozag
0) MUMO STREAM
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>>147444435
Good Luck On Your Run....
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>>147444331
That's the thing though I have no idea how to compile anything (I don't even think I can since I have Windows 32) and Google is useless for me since it assumes I know how to mess around in code when in reality I've never touched code in my life apart from changing fucking numbers.
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>>147444435
>Not playing a LB user to try out riposte
Have fun with the squid.
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>>147443451
Well, fugggg. It always teleports me when I get it to 3*. Guess I'll skip it.
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I want to use HDA's rc, but I'm not sure where to change the ready() function
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_Donald says, "I don't get the difference between high elves and deep elves."
I guess that it is ABOVE HIM
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>>147444435
>DDAr of pak
>not DDFi or DDGl
why does everyone want to play artificer when they go pak
artificer is shit

>>147444595
>not playing lb user of sif
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Welp, giving up on fun, interesting combos has given me much better results. How sad.
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>>147444331
Anon, most people here couldn't apply a patch unless it came in the form of a binary executable.
>>147444573
>I don't even think I can since I have Windows 32
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>>147444779
I got it down to *. And then I gave up as I realized I was spending wayyy to much time trying to kill it at lvl 4.
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>>147444808
that was terrible.
kill yourself
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>>147444787
what do you want to change about it
it should work by default if you just use the rc, shouldn't it
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>>147444879
It took far less effort to get here than with the summoner. Its somewhat relaxing but disappointing at the same time.

Also fucking trog won't give me a goddamn axe.
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>>147444880
Told you I'm shit with code.
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>>147444573
Don't think windows 32bit is a problem. (Unless you mean windows 3.2, that is going to be a bit of a problem yeah).
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>>147444573
>(I don't even think I can since I have Windows 32)
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>>147444808
The joke is that there is no difference.
Noldor were the high elves, and high elves were called Noldor for their deep knowing or something like that. The name Noldor is based off of gnostic iirc.
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>>147444595
>>147444561
Octopode it is then. Time to collect gold and rings or splat trying.
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