Neji Was Too Good For Us Edition
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Fuck
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>>147208243
>>147401532
you also fucked up the youtube link. No worries though
>>147401693
it's serviceable anon, that's the most important thing
>>147401943
Crap, if I ever do this again I'll make sure to do better.
>>147401402
>How to force a jump blocker to do something offensive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMPEHZjOTWo
So, this SD thing. Is it good?
>>147403190
yes it's honestly the most fun I've ever had with this franchise, it's really good. They make a lot of the side characters actually interesting and fun. Orochimaru is great in it.
>>147403190
>>147403360
>Liking chibishit.
>>147403646
As opposed to liking the clusterfuck that is the canon Naruto series?
>>147401402
More like Neji was toorightfor us. Also That picture makes me feel things.
>>147404878
fucking Nips man...
>"Naruto, you have no idea what secrets the Village has been keeping from you," Mizuki said.
>"N-No! Don't!" Iruka shouted.
>Not like this. Naruto can't find out this way.
>"12 years ago . . . you know about the Nine-Tails being killed by the Fourth Hokage?"
>Iruka couldn't move. Shurikenjutsu had always been Mizuki's specialty, and although he had missed Iruka's vitals, he pinned several chakra points and restricted Iruka's movements.
>Run, Naruto. Get away.
>The boy stood there, frozen, staring at the white haired Chunin, perhaps too shocked to properly understand everything he was hearing.
>But even as Iruka hoped Naruto would escape, a small part of him was feeling . . . what was it? A small sense of relief. A burden that had been weighing on him ever since the day he took the Academy Teacher position and Naruto became his student lifting.
>It wasn't right for Naruto to learn this way, but it wasn't right--
>--"Iruka sensei, can I have another bowl of ramen?"
>"What's that?" he said.
>"Hey, you promised me another round of ramen. As a graduation gift," Naruto said.
>They were sitting at Ichiraku Ramen. His treat. Two empty bowls were in front of Naruto and the smell of fresh pork filled the air as other civilians and Shinobi walked by into the night.
>That's right. It's over. Naruto is safe.
>They were no longer in the forest. Iruka's wound had been treated, Mizuki was in custody, and Naruto, amazing Naruto had defeated him with a forbidden Jutsu and a power Iruka had never seen before.
>He took a deep breath and considered his options. More importantly, he considered what he owed Naruto.
>"Naruto," Iruka said, turning to face his student.
>>147405737
Continued
>Naruto's eyes were bright and jubilant, nothing like the hardened determination Iruka had witnessed when the young boy faced down a Shinobi on his level. If anything, they were almost messy. Naruto's round face was covered with Ramen broth, even his whispers were dripping.
>Iruka sighed.
>"Huh? You okay, Iruka sensei?" Naruto said.
>"Eat up, Naruto. You'll need your strength as a fully active Genin, so the next three rounds are on me."
>Naruto laughed. "You can count on me, Sensei."
>He couldn't tell him. No matter how badly Iruka wished to tell Naruto the whole truth, he knew he couldn't. It was too dangerous for Naruto.
>It's just too dangerous for the Fire Country.
Alright. I guess this is the first taste of autism I mentioned last thread. Did this spark anyone's curiosity?
>>147405737
>>147405960
are you the anon who's planning on doing an entire rewrite of Naruto with something altered? Was it that Naruto doesn't find out about his demon fox? Can't remember. Anyway it looks really interesting. Just two things:
>and Naruto, amazing Naruto had defeated him with a forbidden Jutsu and a power Iruka had never seen before
not sure what's going on there, obviously you're saying Naruto became genin and Iruka was amazed but some words were dropped
>even his whispers were dripping
Obviously meant to be whiskers
But those are just minor details, overall it's well written and it's nice to get a fresh new look on the series
bump
>>147406514
Yeah, I'm that anon. I didn't give away the "plot" yet. What I'm working with from this part is:
>Cover story: The Nine-Tails was killed by the Fourth Hokage.
General public outside of Konoha more or less accepts it, though there are suspicions. The Nine-Tails appears like a disaster in its territory and disappears for years or decades at a time without a trace.
Where Tailed Beasts and Jinchuuriki are concerned, Naruto is thefourthJinchuuriki and thefirstNine-Tails Jinchuuriki.
>Classified #1: Everyone in Konoha Chunin+ or 18+ was told that Naruto is the Nine-Tails without his memories or power.
>Classified #2: Only the Heads of The Land of Fire and Shinobi personally involved with Naruto (teachers) are aware of his true (canon) identity.
^I wonder if I should separate the civilians from Shinobi or keep it as is. I'm still bouncing that around.
>Top Secret: This was decided by the Governing Body of the Land of Fire,The Fire Daimyo, The Third Hokage, Danzo, Homura, and Kohura in a 3 to 2 vote, within days after the Kyuubi attack.
Also,
MD1: Yeah, I was saying Naruto, that coolest guy Naruto, pushed Tony the Tiger's shit in with a new Jutsu and strength.
MD2: Yeah, I feel stupid.
>>147408147
Sounds genuinely interesting anon, it'll be fun seeing what you come up with for how these changes impact on the story. As for the things I pointed out I wouldn't worry about shit like whispers instead of whiskers, people don't really care, but yeah that other sentence was pretty confusing. Just decided to point it out if you're planning on putting it up somewhere else or needed a hand proof-reading.
I'm getting a PSP soon, and I figured I'd get one of these as a lighter alternative to the plotty games I'm getting. Are there many naruto games for PSP? What's the best one? Why?
>>147410871
I''ve heard of Dragon Ball and even Bleach games on PSP but never Naruto so idk. Will you be getting a PSP that you can install custom firmware on? If s it's a great platform for playing PS1 games. I've got over a thousand hours out of my PSP through PS1 JRPGs alone.
>>147404878
Did you find any good Neji doujins?
>>147411065
>>147410871
Can confirm that cracking the PSP is great. I had FFIX on it as well as like half a dozen pirated PSP games.
>>147411065
According to Wikipedia, there are 6 or 7 naruto games on psp
>>147401402
Guess who's birthday is today?
>>147412386
A M E R I C A
>>147412386
he was too good for this world;_;7
>>147412507
>>147412386
happy 4th of July Americans, happy birthday Neji;-;
>he never got to see NaruHina happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIX5VQukWP4
>>147413183
Neji is like the one dude that I would be ok with Edo Tensei being asspulled for in the Boruto manga. Even if he doesn't stick around, just so he can meet his niece and nephew and see that his sacrifice wasn't for nothing.
>>147413507
would you be ok if Neji look like in the pic related?
>>147414537
I don't really have a choice with the art style, do I?
>>147414698
nope
unless Kishi says fuck it and takes charge of the things again
btw he was supposed to be releasing a new sci-fi manga
what happened to it?
>>147415375
Dunno. I haven't kept up with Kishimoto at all. I remember him saying he was looking at releasing a new one, but I didn't hear any more about it than that.
Will he have time if he's still supervising Boruto?
Also, why do you think Boruto was made monthly? To give Assistant-kun time to practice, or just because people might not be as into Boruto as they were into Naruto?
>>147415602
>To give Assistant-kun time to practice
probably because of this, but i can see they will make it bimonthly in future if its still milkable
>>147416328
I'd prefer bi-monthly if I'm honest. More to talk about. When's this month's chapter coming out, do we know? We need more poorly arted memes.
>>147417073
either this month's 6th or 7th
![tumblr_o9qpvbTrjr1tzyls4o1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M1kQ5jk.jpg "tumblr_o9qpvbTrjr1tzyls4o1_1280[1].jpg")
>>147401402
uhhh g-guys?is this might be official concept art of Neji for Boruto
>>147417476
Got any source other than a picture with a tumblr filename?
>>147417529sadly no
>>147417934
Devo. The picture doesn't look bad enough to be done by Assistant-kun. Lines are too confident and thin.
>>147418024
what i meant is looks like this concept art is done by SP's movie team
i mean just look at the similarity of the artwork
>>147417476
This looks good, but would neji even be in the Boruto manga?
>>147416328
>if its still milkable
The Naruto franchise is huge. They'll make cash no matter how poorly it's done
>>147418347
>>147417476
>>147417529
facebook com/SpirallingSphere/photos/?tab=album&album_id=522440447953304
>>147418448
>shangai exhibition
oh yeah heard about that, iirc it was Naruto characters in chinese clothing
>>147411445
yeah but most of them are ports iirc
>>147418435
do you think they'll do any of these for 2017? I'd really like one.
they're 8-2 in open what do i say to him
im really autistic and bad at words
>>147419615
haha fuck shitposted the wrong general
>>147419615
we'll never organise tournies here, will we anon?
>>147419941
probably not
>>147420059
;_;
>>147418448
You know, just watched Zootopia last night. Actually hell decent, for a generic bright and happy Disney movie.
>>147420353
You mean Nephew.
>>147420941
It was only ok really. I'm a big Disney guy though, so maybe I was just disappointed. Still better than Pixar shit.Frozen was better
>>147421341
>>147421437
>>147421571
>>147421662
>>147421878
>>147422105
he has returned
>>147421878
>this looked way cooler in the anime
I think they also dropped the silly ones like this for the anime
>>147422379
You know it
>>147422384
Man, these pages do not have good setups for comedy at the moment.
>>147422851
As well as the one in the very centre, and his hand up at the top left as well. The only actual one is the centre bottom, which is I, or boar.
>>147422878
>>147377376
>>147377567
>Chakra and the history of ninjutsu is fully explored
Thrown in explanations/excuses at the very end to allow Kishi to do whatever pottery he was wanting to do is not an exploration of a concept.
Earlier ideas regarding it are thrown right out (spiritual+mental enery, rotation type as told by your hair's 'rotation', enough chara being used for it to be visible being a big enough deal that the veteran Zabuza lost his shit over it, hell, even the elemental shit loses relevance pretty damn quicly). If the Sage, Kaguya etc were ideas he'd have had earlier, then he was again showing how poor his world building skills are by not subtly hinting at it (i.e. word usage, paintings, statues of the great figures of legend, thoughts of how their actions would impact the world even generations later).
>the history of villages, much of how villages interact
We've seen two Gokage meetings, one in a flashback. Tsunade once called in for reinforcements from the Sand and sent Nardo et al to their rescue one other time. Hardly the deepest look into their interactions.
>we should discover this information naturally
There's nothing depicting how the villages interact with their respective Nations beyond the Land of Wind fucking Suna over, how missions and contracts are handled. Because there are barely any real, proper mercenary type missions, we never get to see the world and the mechanics that make the wheels turn. We get an incredibly basic idea from the beginning of the Wave mission sure, but not much beyond that. The result is a world where missions might as well grow from trees, where we barely know anything of the Land of Fire, or even the more intricate details of how the clans within Konoha work.
>>147411221
I went to otome road earlier but yaoi's not really my thing so I didn't look for it. I will next time, though.
>>147423683
>Kishimoto
>creative
'Creative' is a funny concept. A lot of creativity is about twisting existing cultural shit or the wors of others and presenting it in a new way, and sure, Kishi does plenty of that. But like I said, that is surface level. I'm not asking that the man go full on Tolkien here, but at the very least spare a thought before spouting ridiculous things like SIX HUNDRED BILLION EXPLOSIVE TAGS or indeed the Kote, to think through what preparations would be needed, how the world would react to it.
If Kishi was the kind of genius you seem to regard him as, with the kind of clarity of vision needed of an auteur, he'd know immediately what is where it is and why, how it interacts with everything else.
As is, like I said, Kishi just thinks of shit he thinks would be cool and contrives things so that they can happen. Then when inevitably he writes himself into a corner, he retcons, blatantly ignores parts of lore, invents new powers for the Sharingan at a dime.
>A story is driven by the overall plot and the characters are just there to service the plot.
Well, I could not disagree with you any more either. A plot without characters is a meaningless chain of events that might as well happen to unidentifiable gray blobs.
Characters, individuals are the key in any story, otherwise that story will inevitably just devolve into a mess of contrived events with no weight, driven by pure, unadulterated "It Just Happens, Okay?".
>>147423695
kek
>>147423770
Any good writer will have no trouble combining the plot and story they want to tell with characters whose motivations are grounded in the world and fit where the story wants to go, and if you are claiming Kishi is somehow some big genius, he too should be capable of living up to this standard of bare-bone competence.
But he is not only not a genius and an auteur, but a talentless fucking hack, so of course he can't.
>I see no obligation to explore characters thoroughly that don't service the plot.
Again you have it backwards. Characters are what make a plot happen and give substance to any story, so the introduction and handling of both main and secondary cast is extremely important. If you are introducing someone, their appearance should make the appropriate impact on the plot, otherwise you are wasting people's time. It does not have to be big by all means, I've no problems with the introduction of, say, Kiba, but if you decide to have as much focus away from the protagonist(s) as Nardo did, at the very least you should center that time on the established secondary cast, instead of coing up yet more throwaway characters.
Chouji's Chocolate Waifu and her team are completely pointless, for instance, and any creative writer would have found a way to tie in the existing cast to the minor conflict they brought, making the story a bit tighter.
Alternatively bring in the new team, but make the tensions they brought more significant, involve them later on, fucking make something of them if you've bothered to create them in the first place. At the very least killing them off could have had an impact and made the war feel more real, as semi-known characters.
>>147423770
Why should that matter?
This series is aimed at shonen, and they don't even care for explanation that go beyond seeing flashy shit happen.
>>147423863
So in closing I must completely disagree with the idea that plot is above all.
But even if that were the case, Kishi's plot is nowhere near solid or coherent enough for it to make sense that it somehow subugates everything else, when characterisation of ey players like Itachi is clearly all over the place, going right against what should have happened if all was in service of some grand, pre-conceived plan of the story.
>>147423101
>go away
>don't hug me
Is that unedited? I forgot how hilarious some of these lines were on their own. Could it be time for me to reread?
Also I really want to buy these erasers for my little 14 year old cousins because I'm sure their burgerland public schools would find gun shaped erasers hilarious. But I also don't want them getting expelled.
>>147423913
Because that anon was claiming that Kishi was an auteur and a genius storyteller.
If that is the case, there are standards on that level to live up to, which is obviously not something he manages to do.
He's a hack, one whose garbage I happen to enjoy, but let's not go overboard with praising it.
>>147423695
Damn son.
>>147424127
>more shy ino
>>147424282
Imagine all the shenanigans there could be with someone like that in possession of the telepathy/Psychonaut powers of a Yamanaka.
I really wish Shy Ino was a thing in the real universe of the series.
>>147424080
Yeah, that one is unedited.
>>147424104
>>147424282
Yeah I'm a hinatafag all the way but damn son if shy ino were canon or if we saw more of her I think I'd have to reevaluate my life.
>>147424527
Man, I barely needed to touch this one.
>>147421662
>I thought that stone was a generator when I read this chapter for the first time ages ago.
>>147424915
Start of Chapter 8
That fuck is this?
https://cs.sankakucomplex.com/data/fd/53/fd5313b5d6a04487391e686c6cf8d28a.gif?1687896
>>147425109
I dunno, since Error 1011, "The owner of this website (cs.sankakucomplex.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/data/fd/53/fd5313b5d6a04487391e686c6cf8d28a.gif)."
>>147425109
*The
>>147425159
https://a.pomf.cat/vauhxg.gif
>>147425109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4DoFa5b9AY
>>147425270
This opening filled me with anger.
>>147425263
It's something that should've been in the actual series, since multi-person three-handed seals for crazy-strong jutsu would've been cool as fucking shit, especially for established teams like Ino-Shika-Chou
>>147425484
>You will never have a book full of your sexual conquests
https://a.pomf.cat/xkwagg.gif
>>147426045
I enjoyed this scene. Seeing Sasuke eat shit.
here's a question for y'all - what's Hagoromo's first appearance? I remember seeing his shadow a couple of times but can't remember when. Could we have seen him as early as part 1?
>>147423683
>spiritual+mental enery, rotation type as told by your hair's 'rotation', enough chara being used for it to be visible being a big enough deal that the veteran Zabuza lost his shit over it, hell, even the elemental shit loses relevance pretty damn quicly
I don't see how these are undone by the additional exposition later one, and although the origins of chakra chakra are explored with the emergence of Kaguya much of the mysticism still remains (so I guess it's NOT fully explored). I don't see where you're getting that "explanations/excuses" of these two concepts contribute to the poetry aspect of the series also, they're pretty much much straight-up explanations of what happened that are given to service the raw plot.
> If the Sage, Kaguya etc were ideas he'd have had earlier... not subtly hinting at it
I'll agree that the foreshadowing of Kaguya's resurrection was well too late in coming but we knew for a long time that Hagoromo would appear in some fashion, they referred to him multiple times even before the Fourth Shinobi War. And I have no proof of thise but I believe Kishi had the transmigrant chakra planned at least since Naruto and Sasuke's first fight at The Valley of the End.
>We've seen two Gokage meetings etc.
You're ignoring many indirect insights how other villages operate. I mean, you didn't even mention the Konoha Invasion arc which tells us everything we need to know about the state Sunagakure is in. Even as early as the first arc in The Land of Waves we're given backstory relating to other villages through Zabuza's history. I could come up with examples for almost every arc.
>>147423683
>>147423770
>>147426769
>There's nothing depicting how the villages interact... Land of Waves etc.
As you admit The Land of Waves explores how general missions are set up and handled. As well as that it introduces us to the 4-man squad unit, to the relationships between Naruto and Sasuke, to the basics of ninjutsu and chakr, to the sharingan and probably 20 other things.. This arc doesn't serve the overall plot beyond giving us a basic overview of important concepts for later on. The main story of Naruto's about friendship, reincarnation and destiny but really it can be said that it's about the inevitable conflict between Naruto and Sasuke that's been predestined since birth. What we see in between is just a set of events that happen to take place in between. What I'm trying to say is that you should be thankful he took the time got sidetracked and gave us all of part 1 for exposition. Part 1 is a text-book example of what a prologue, it's not the meat of the story but it's the bare essentials for making it through.
> A lot of creativity is about twisting existing cultural shit etc.
admittedly I don't know how much of Naruto is thought up out of nowhere , I can imagine he borrowed pieces from Japanese folklore. I've always assumed it's largely original though. And no matter how revolutionary Tolkien was, even he borrowed much from the works of his predecessors
And yeah, obviously we're not going to agree on what makes a plot and the role of characters in the plot. Most good stories for me aren't about characters interacting with each other, they're about often uncontrollable events that take place and depending on what group of characters the plot is using to advance the story, we see how these events affect a limited number of characters. The plot is about the event, the characters are just story-telling tools and not the story itself.
>>147426769
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/373/4
>>147423683
>>147423770
>>147423863
>>147423997
>>147426769
>>147426916
>Any good writer will have no trouble combining the plot and story they want to tell with characters whose motivations are grounded in the world and fit where the story wants to go
I feel Kishi accomplished, with maybe too much exposition given to a few side characters even though I enjoyed it. Neji, Shikamaru and Choji's story arcs were unecessary and counterproductive, should've been anime exclusive and not in the manga(and Choji's one where he turned into a butterfly was crap to be honest).
>Chouji's Chocolate Waifu and her team are completely pointless
largely pointless, yeah, which is why Kishi made the right decision giving them next to no character development. Only significant thing they did was beat up Naruto which was servicing the overall plot.
If you reply I also might take a while getting back to you, getting pretty tired.
>>147426968
thanks anon. So not quite part 1, but still a good 300 chapters foreshadowing.
I think I was getting mixed up with a shadow we see of Pain during an Akatsuki meeting in Part 1. I believe it wasn't in the manga but they had it in the anime, maybe even before he's shown in the manga in real world release dates.
>>147426730
I think I'm pretty much done for now.
>>147427118
pic related is the appearance I'm referring to
>>147427163
more than 1 chapter done, good job my man
>>147427284
Kept the thread alive for a bit.
>>147427781
You're truly the hero this general deserves.
>>147428652
I also found a place for turkroach anon to visit if he ever comes to tokyo.
I'm going to sleep. Night, see y'all when I wake up.
>>147429042
night
>>147429042
Goodnight friend.
>>147430718
>>147430836
>>147425780
They sure put a lot of effort into punching Sakura
>>147431848
Wouldn't you?
>>147426769
>I don't see where you're getting that "explanations/excuses" of these two concepts contribute to the poetry aspect of the series
Look, the initial point you were making was that Kishi is some sort of narrative genius and auteur.
To me, that is a very, very exclusive club and Kishi is not only unworthy of being a member of it, he is unworthy of licking a member's boot.
An auteur genius should have a crystal clear vision of he series, of every tiny detail as part of their grand vision, hence the absolute refusal for anyone to change anything.
My assertion was that Kishi's reluctance to change has nothing to do with any of the above, merely stubbornness and a wish to retain the ability to asspull whatever he wanted.
The chakra mechanic, a consistent thing throughout the series, but aspects of it shown as incredibly relevant, the quality, quantity and nature of it, and their respective relevancies are clearly changed relatively freely to suit a later need to asspull.
What this shows is that contrary to your claim of Kishi being someone with a consistent vision, he's mucking about. Nothing wrong with that, necessarily but it does remove him from the category you said he was a part of.
The stuff about Kaguya etc, show a fundamental shift in what's being done: what established the world and mystique of the series was Minato's sealing of the Fox, which by the end was reduced to a minor side detail, more or less unaddressed by the protagonist in his confrontation with the villain responsible for that crisis.
An auteur would have started bang on with the greater stuff right at the very start, but we both know Kishi hadn't thought of any of that back then. Which is okay, to some degree anyway, but again it makes him not an auteur.
>>147432056
As for the world building, I am not saying we didn't learn ANYTHING, just not nearly enough for your claim of a well-build, lived-in world to be true at all.
How do civilians live in this world, how do the Elemental Nations and petty kingdoms interact, what is the role of shinobi between them? What are the individual cultures of the villages? Where are the major cities, how does trade work? What of crime syndicates like Gato's, or other shady shit?
I am not asking all and every one of these to be answered to satisfaction. But these, as well as a lot of others, could have been answered to actually build the world in missions, except the direction of the series went off kilter after the Chuunin Exams.
Sure, we had some of what I hesitate to even call foreshadowing with the PARALLELS with the Sannin, Sauce was about to fuck off and be a traitorous little shit.
But your view of the series is tainted by hindsight. At the very start there was no talk of reincarnation or even destiny (connected to Sauce at any rate) like an autor's work would have been, it was simply about Naruto, the Fox and the Fourth's actions resulting in his plight.
Hell, the very existence of Sasuke is proof Kishi's vision is far from the crystalline structure you claim it to be, as we all know both Sasuke and Sakura were additions prompted by the editor, to bring a rival and a shitty love triangle. If Kishi were an auteur he would have clung to his vision, but he did not.
>>147432190
So we got a series that might as well have been renamed Sasuke.
Themes came and went as the series squirmed around, looking for direction and failing to find it, a story about friendships became a story focused about one very specific friendship which turned out to be an at best really fucking weird and uncomfortable, with spiritual brotherhood or whatnot. All dragged in hundreds and hundreds of chapters after the series' beginning.
For someone with the amazing foresight and stubborn loyality for his vision you portray Kishi as, he practically let an editor's suggestion barge in and face-fuck the very premise of the series.
And why was that? Because Kishi could not keep the themes consistent, because he is not a genius or an auteur.
On another note for your claim of a sacrosanct Plot everything else is subservient to, the series you are praising doesn't exactly live up to that ideal, as his treason did fuck all for Sauce to actually beat Itachi (and Kishi's boner for the bastard meant that in order to glorify his favourite character further, the plot's swing had to be sacrificed, making so that a key victory that sent the rest of the plot soaring was in fact weakened with Ninja AIDS and Itachi letting Sauce win).
>Land of Waves arc
>This arc doesn't serve the overall plot beyond giving us a basic overview of important concepts for later on.
Incidentally this arc is still thought of as the very best arc of the series, and arguably the only really worthwhile part. Funny, isn't it?
>admittedly I don't know how much of Naruto is thought up out of nowhere , I can imagine he borrowed pieces from Japanese folklore
From names to concepts and religious stuff, it's basically almost all not his own, original work. It's as generic as your noname Tolkien-esque Western fantasy, admittedly with a couple of interesting twists of its own.
>>147432337
>no matter how revolutionary Tolkien was, even he borrowed much
And I did not say there is anything wrong with that. Shoulders of giants and all of that. The difference is that one man committed decades to meticulous, deep thinking of an amazing, chronologically/mythologically as well as geologically sprawling world, with heroes of every era and undescribable detail of pretyt much everything, from famously inventing languages to geographic considerations and larger motions of history to the type of tobacco Hobbits liked to smoke. The other man, meanwhile, couldn't be bothered to even mention the origins of why the Elemental Nations are named after, well, the chakra natures.
To me, there are very, very few works of fiction that have a truly well developed world, and Naruto's sure as shit does not make the cut. Nothing really wrong with that, especially given the audience, but it does show how Kishi compares to actual genius.
>The plot is about the event, the characters are just story-telling tools and not the story itself.
Well, I can appreciate a 'story' of a war between ant hills, but for it to be fundamentally worthwhile, there has to be a human connection.
I mean, did you appreciate the Star Wars Prequels' battles between robots and identical clones, with the occasional Jedi effortlessly hacking through them?
Obviously we will not agree, but still, to me that fucking weird, man.
>largely pointless, yeah, which is why Kishi made the right decision giving them next to no character development.
Which, to me is why they either should not have been involved in the first place and their contribution given to someone else in the secondary cast, or once introduced, made into real characters with weight and impact.
>>147432190
>>147432056
I don't know what you too are really discussing, but anyone who defends the reincarnation bullshit is wrong.
Even if it had somehow been handled well (Which is clearly NOT ther case) it was still ill conceived in order to keep Naruto and Sauske more relevant to the world he's created than literally anyone else.
Theat move alone relegated everybody other than those two and the main antagonists to fodder level.
Did you type this all up in Word or something and are now just copy-pasting it piecemeal?
>>147432748
All in the normal text box.
>>147432748
Don't try to fool prople by using tits to distract them
>>147432958
> Ino teaches Sai how to be a human
> Sai teaches Ino how to draw
My personal cute couple rankings are
1) NaruHina
2) ShikaTem
3) InoSai
Chouji and Karui are pretty eh for me, and let's not even pretend Sasuke and Sakura are 'cute'. Kiba and cat lady are alright, but we barely see anything of them. Still, no kids, which makes them fucking based.
>>147433135
I actually liked these two the best before assistant-kun ruined Inojin
It's great that an autist who doesn't understand emotions pursued a relationship like that, despite obviously not understanding his own reason for doing so.
>>147433397
>before assistant-kun ruined Inojin
I don't follow Nardo GT. What did he do to the poor kid?
>>147433397
I pretend, that Boruto is drawing the manga
>>147433471
Buttbaby between Chouji and Sai
>>147433397
I like to imagine Sai actually coming to Kakashi with questions because Kakashi's also ex-ANBU, but not a creepy ex-possessed tree-man like Yamato.
> So, like...Ino has been talking to me a lot.
> Oh?
> Yeah. I don't know why. Like, she's nice enough...
> And?
> Well, I like talking to her and being with her as well
> I'm not seeing the question, Sai
> Is it normal to want to see someone without wanting something from them?
> ...Excuse me?
> Well, you know, when two people interact, it's usually because someone wants something from the other. Information or something
> And...
> And...I don't feel that with Ino. I don't feel like I need anything to make the interaction worthwhile. Is that...normal?
> Danzo really messed you up, huh?
> That's what they keep telling me.
> I think you just happen to like Ino, kid
> What do you mean?
> I mean, you seem to be developing emotions for her
> I see. Is THAT normal?
> You're asking me if developing a relationship with someone normal?
> With all due respect, Kakashi, I don't have a lot of experience in this department
>>147433135
This is what needed to happen
>>147433759
>"Here, I'll lend you this book"
>Icha Icha Blondes do it better? Wha-"
>"Don't worry, I have more copies"
>Kakashi shunshins away
And so Inojin was conceived
>>147434029
I would've liked to see more of Kakashi actually giving adult advice, considering two members of his team were emotionally crippled - three if you count Sai - and Kakashi has more than enough experience with dealing with that sort of thing.
>Kakashi
>Not emotionally crippled
>>147435672
Oh, he is. Which is exactly why I'm saying he's probably in a better position than most to dispense advice.
The alternative is like someone who's never had depression telling someone who HAS clinical depression to 'just lighten up'.
>>147435571
>Do not bully the Obito! Do not!
I'm heading to sleep.
Man I really need to fucking pack tomorrow. Movers are coming on Friday and literally 97% of my shit is still spread all over the house.
>>147435571
[Rin]
>No, no no and no!
>I don't understand how you can be Sensei's son.
>Obito is NOT cool! He is responsible for the deaths of a large portion of your loved ones, including the aforementioned, untold thousands more, he has done ridiculous amounts of damage to the world, made a pact with an insane necromancer, and he tried to kill you personally the very minute you were born!
>Now if you want someone cool, why don't you look up to your own sensei? Such an amazing hunk of a man, I tell you, dark and mysterious without actually being edgy, skilled, tender, loves his literature, everything a girl should want and everything a guy should aspire to be like! He is the epitome of coolness, and...
[Nardo]
>Bu-but he was the Coolest Guy
>>147436312
Good luck m8. How hard is it to find a good place in Fuck Off we're Full Land?
I've been thinking of moving a couple of times now, but fuck's sake is it hard to find a good place in England.
>>147436887
Depends where you're looking at moving to. Tons of places in Far North Queensland, decent in North Queensland, and I think pretty easy pickings in South East Queensland. Queensland is best state anyway, so almost anywhere along the coast and you'll be fine.
Sunshine Coast is best, though. Snag a plan in Mooloolaba, Caloundra or Maroochydore and you'll be set. Can highly recommend it.
bump
>>147356151
Japan's weird. It's supposed to be this collectivist society, in contrast with the highly individualistic United States, and the motto of Shonen Jump "Friendship, Effort, Victory," reflects this, but the conflicts within their stories are constantly being solved through the talent of a single person, apparent with Ninja Jesus, but even more so as Madara singlehandedly solo'd the Jobber Alliance. Watch The Avengers or anything involving the Justice League, in contrast, and it actually seems like a team effort, with even people like Batman finding use in a group of gods.
And as for "effort" meaning anything, we all know that's bullshit in regard to not only Naruto but within battle shounen as a genre. The supposedly important "friendships" displayed with Shonen Jump's stuff only appear to exist so that they'll be characters to cheer on the MC.
I think I'd sooner believe that Kishi buys into what Madara has to say than that he genuinely buys into the purpose behind Kakashi's initial bell test (although the later is actually more relevant to the real world, in which one person can't solo an army).
>>147438747
>Sasuke, why do we have to meet in this dirty alleyway?
>Shut up, it's my aesthetic
>>147439138
> Also dont tell Sakura that im here
>Ok, now lets get started, who is gonna be on top this time?
>Sasuke returns to Konoha to update Naruto on his investigation
>After they talk, Naruto tells Sasuke Sakura will be happy to see him, especially now that she and Sasuke have a daughter
>Sasuke looks confused for a moment
>Takes out some flashcards
>Sorts through until he finds one that says "Sakura"
>"Annoying. Pink. Wearing my crest for some reason."
>Takes out a pen
>Scrawls "Daughter" underneath
>Leaves for 15 years
2 days until the Boruto blu-ray and predator Himawari, lads. Who /hype/ here?
>>147440224
heh
>>147440802
me, especially for the OVA
Why didn't Sasuke have more kids? Didn't he wanna resurrect his clan?
Or do you think he thinks shin clones are enough?
>>147433142
I think the person who did this is a good person who loves his mom.
>>147441545
Sasuke never really cared about restoring his clan. He just wanted to avenge them.
>>147441813
>>147441330
Take away 90% of the pointless clutter and it's not bad.
>>147442006
DELET THIS
>>147442006
I thought that was Ichigo and Orihime at a distance.
>>147442905
heh
btw whats happening with Bleach lately?
any news on the pairings?
>>147443483
It's going to end in 5 chapters apparently and the pairings are still uncertain. All I know is there is going to be a Bleach edition of Anal Devastation at the end of it.
>>147419107
And the initial question is still "which one is the best," and should I even bother to get one. Thanks for the help, nsunsg.
So we now have the first gameplay video for the new nardo game. Be careful - imminent mobileshit
http://n4g.com/news/1926892/naruto-ultimate-ninja-blazing-gets-first-gameplay
>>147444158
>should I even bother to get one
Not him, but NO is the definite answer.
Get Final Fantasy Tactics WotL.
If you must play a naruto game on it play the GBA's ninja council series
>>147444223
Well, that sure is some mobile shit.
Is it too much to ask for an RPG style Nardo game?On PC?
>>147444829
>on PC
Might as well ask for the entire series remastered in the storm 4 engine.
>>147447285
It's a real downer, how much the Japs dislike PC.
I've never played too much in the way of JRPGs and the like, nor have many other people in the regions where it dominates, but part of the reason is that they won't port them in the first place.
The whole Japan/console only approach makes it a small wonder we have as much stuff from them as we do.
>>147439514
>Idiot, same as always
>You get me and my clone gets you? Again?
>>147447761
>Liking PC gaming.
Nippon has better priorities than playing walking simulators that teach you social justice.
>>147447761
but now japs finally discovered power of steam and now they are flooding the store with their visual novels
>>147448458
Well, I was referring to good things, not VN shit .Unless you can recommend something actually good.
>>147448583
Tsukihime
>>147448458
Is Steam available in Japan?
>>147449114
yes?
>>147449114
Why wouldn't it be?
New Nardo thread on /a/.
>>>/a/143687228
>page 8
![2JyEc0I[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fOZcMdQ.jpg "2JyEc0I[2].jpg")
>>147401402
Gameplay of the new mobile Naruto Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_bE_6B-vQc
![001[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kj4Cqch.png "001[1].png")
>>147401402
>page 9
its that time again isn't it?
![002[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/CTVMJmr.png "002[1].png")
>>147454904
![003[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DtT9TLI.png "003[1].png")
>>147455114
![004[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/61EYd0K.jpg "004[1].png")
>>147455301
![005[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JH6wdL3.png "005[1].png")
>>147455482
![006[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/D7m44OY.png "006[1].png")
>>147455657
![007[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KAfwk7r.png "007[1].png")
>>147455872
![sample_5d355fc9c339226f6564b3e05ec4df79[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wZtPv99.jpg "sample_5d355fc9c339226f6564b3e05ec4df79[2].jpg")
>>147458912
What is it with fanartists and portraying post-Part 1 Sasuke as if he was capable of making actual human reactions and expressions other than DARKNESS and crazed bloodlust?
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01EQI7FVI/ref=s9_simh_gw_g15_i1_r?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=YKBJKR0FS8748GWPD02T&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=9d539fa0-72bc-4756-8b94-2163f0a38a88&pf_rd_i=desktop
Jiggly bump
>>147409076
Thanks anon. I appreciate any feedback.
Also, I never realized what a pain in the ass it was explaining rank promotions.
>>147461294
I might be forgetting something, but didn't she give Naruto that necklace?
reminder
bump
He never got to see his god-grandchildren.He never got to make (legitimate) children with Tsunade.
If drawfag anon who's currently in Nipland is around: have you seen any really weird commercials or TV shows?
So since I finished writing my Nardo quest yesterday, is it essentially the same as fanfiction nowI kind of want to see if I can have it added to the recommendations list
I really need to stop coming on here right before bed.I had a dream where some guy I know IRL was dating Hinata, and I was super upset about it because I liked her as well, and over the course of the dream we started hanging out more and she decided to be with me, and then I woke up and felt sad because none of it was real.Those sorts of dreams are normally about my ex, wtf is even happening
Second one was less Naruto related, but a bit cooler.
>>147465878
Was this made just for the sake of being racist?
>>147468245
I say go put it up, man. I still have to read it too.
>>147459512
The fuck why is a cd so expensive? Oh right the nips are the last people on earth who buy them and it's only because of clever marketing schemes like free prizes.
On the plus side I can order japanese stuff with my Japanese address for the next 7 weeks so maybe I should look around online more. Do you guys have any site recommendations besides amazon and like taobao or something?
>>147471749
The bleach didn't work right either. After cleaning off the dirt, the final product is supposed to be white, not yellow.
>>147461601
I think this was from the episode where she was introduced? So she hadn't given it to him yet?
>>147472961
She gives him the necklace before they returned to the Leaf.
>>147472482
I guess the Japanese use piss as an ingredient for their Bleach.
>>147473385
But not when they meet, only after she kicks his ass, isn't it?
>>147473539
She gives it to him after their fight with Orochimaru and Kabuto.
>>147471749
It's a bit of a parody of an über progressive Italian commercial where the woman puts her husband in and out comes a muscular black man
Europe is such a joke lel
>>147474896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dntfod-Cbo
vid related I guess
>>147472147
Alright, now how do I format this shit
>Wordcount
Fuck
Everything else is on ff.net, right? And this is on suptg. Do I make a note of that, or what?
Is one of the guys who put the list together here? How should I handle this
>>147453065
I do not understand at all what's happening here.
>>147477036
Why don't you just put the Suptg link either in the list or in the OP? Not like it has to be formated on ff.net or in Word or anything. Some people would want to see the autistic suggestions of some of the players.
>>147477372
I wasn't planning on rewriting it or anything, I just wasn't sure whether to try and fit it to the list's fanfic criteria, or give it some kind of unique format, and how I should go about that. It's kind of different from the rest of the stuff on the list, so I wasn't sure
As for putting the link right in the OP, I don't know how I feel about shilling it quite that hard
>>147477731
Just toss it in the list with a footnote explaining that it's a player-driven quest from /tg/ then
>>147477854
Really, between this, the rewrites and that fanfic we might need to make a new category of stuff made by the general.
Wasn't there one more, with an anon doing a crossover between Nardo and DB Xenoverse?
>>147478630
Dunno. Just add a new header saying '/nsunsg/ OC'
what're you anons doing up so late? Wanna have a slumber party?
>>147479253
That's basically what I meant. But then I am in severe need of sleep.
>>147478630
>>147479253
So would fanfics written by general goers be moved to that section, or would we leave them be? Let the author choose? And should we consolidate some things like the rewrite and tabletop summaries in that section? Would the inclusion of such a section still be fitting of a document called /nsunsg/-approved fanfiction? Would it go between the fanfic and doujinshi sections, or at the top?
Asking the tough questions here
>>147479821
It's quarter to midday for me. Still got a fuckload to pack. But first, Subway.
>>147480905
Leave the link as-is, and just make a new section at the top called /nsunsg/-written content. Put our stuff first, separate from the rest, and then the rest of the fanfiction below it. It doesn't matter if it's not really fanfiction, since if people don't wanna read it they won't.
The summary already has a separate link in the OP though.
>>147441330
I wish the sage coat had become a permanent part of Naruto's design. It's sad how short-lived it was.
>>147481581
the sage coat AND the massive scroll anon, loved his design for the Pain fight.
>>147481581
Have you ever noticed that is has the exact same design as the Hokage cloak? It's just red with black flames, rather than white with red flames.
>>147481857
Yeah, the scroll too.
>>147481875
Yeah, pretty much. The red and black design fits better in my opinion, though. Also, I would have liked him to have had it for the rest of the "main story", so to say.
>>147481581
I wonder why Kishi dropped it.
Either he was too lazy to draw it, the editors worried the new design would hurt sales, or perhaps Kishi was worried some people might think Naruto was cooler than Sauce with his new robe-scroll combo.
We all know the last possibility would keep him up at night.
>>147481875
was Minato the Hokage of aesthetics? Truly he brought to the table the greatest advancements in fashion and boyish charm.
>>147482304
Chuunin flak jacket and Hokage cloak go so well together, goddamn.
Hes certainly the most /fa/ of all the Hokage.
Okay, I added the new section to the approved fanfiction list. If anyone wants to put their fic in it, go right ahead.Also someone please fix the line spacing of my entry, I couldn't figure out it fucked up
>>147483423
Why is Naruto straddling Shikamaru?
>>147483423
Shikamaru seems waaay too cool with Naruto being on him like that
>>147483423
>Naruto, I see you straddling Shikamaru, and I can't help but think it has to do with your gay porn you happened to leave right next to you
>>147483623
>>147483539
Shikamaru is just cool Sasuke so I don't blame Nardo for straddling him like that
>>147483539
why do you think anon?
>>147483402
is this Laze guy a poster on /nsunsg/?
>>147483607
Is low-key homosexuality a normal thing in Japan? Some things are just really weird over there.
Like, do class and student council presidents REALLY have that much power? They basically rule the school in anime.Maybe it's just because Naruto and Shikamaru were always on good terms, and Shikamaru is chuuni as fuck, but that doesn't bug me as much as the majority of yaoi homosex pictures do.
>>147484034
Yeah, I am. Though I was running for a couple months before /nsunsg/ existed
>>147484060
>>147484034
LaZe is almost always lurking here. He's also a player in my game. He doesn't post a lot, but he hangs around.
>>147484156
>>147484230
oh very nice
>>147484285
He's always looking for reviews on his ability as a QM. He seems to think he's not that great, for some reason, so if you want, post your thoughts here after you've read a bit.
you are now playing a dating sim focused on Naruto. Which of the boys [/spoiler]or men[/spoiler] do you try to woo first?
>>147475885
Fucking Italians
for the anon the other day saying Sakura's dad's probably abusive, looks like a stable family to me
>>147484558
Haku.
>>147485459
>Terrible puns aren't abuse
