True Operators kill hostages Edition
>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO
>Teamspeak for /vg/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations
>Official news
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx
Choose Spetnaz for hostage edition
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-us/updates/dustline.aspx
http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/
>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap
>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx
>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true
>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues
>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk (embed)
>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432
>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)
>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.
http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094
>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik
>>147291704
Does this look right?
>>147293630
Can anybody tell me if that looks like the right way to port forward?
>tfw blackbeard and everyone died
>>147293735
>>147293735
*blocks your pacth*
not today , kid ...
STOP SPOTTING!!! STOP IT!!!!!! I SAID STOP!
Is there a way for me to delete all my settings for the game including internet and connection ones?
>>147296691
Yes. Wipe your hard drive and reinstall everything!
>>147296930
I was having such a good time playing this game, but the really bad rubberbanding and almost instant lag kick for every match has put a really bad taste in my mouth. If anyone know how to approach these kind of issues it would be much appreciated.
Someone last thread was asking if there's a reason to mark people at the start of a round.
It reveals the Operator they're using in the top bar, so you have an idea of what you're up against, and who's left.
>>147297992
you don't have to scan them to identify them.
>defense
>4 roamers
>I'm the only one in the objective room
>they all die without getting a kill
Fugg
I'm strongly considering getting this game and I wanted to ask some questions related to the longevity. I like the game, it looks fun as fuck, but has the game itself aged well? How well has the game been treated by the devs?
>>147298824
>defense
>1 roamer
>everyone else sits in objective room and gets rushed by the enemy getting better angles
>>147299967
This is easily one of the best shooters to release of the decade.
The problem is the publisher- Ubisoft has given this game little attention, marketing it scarcely during its infancy then completely switching to The Division in order to rake in as much as possible from it. Shame, since this game is so good. The devs push out updates probably once every three weeks, long waits are common. But the game is fun as fuck, and despite all the bugs, I guarantee you'll have a good time.
***EXTRA WARNING***
The game is full of cheaters.
>>147300575
>The game is full of cheaters.
How badly exactly? Is it pre anti-cheat Dirty Bomb bad?
>>147300738
It's not THAT bad. But the anti-cheat only functions on the most basic level, so that only the blatant rage hackers end up getting caught by it.
Most hackers can get away with trying to hide it, yet many of them reveal themselves and can get banned by reporting and recording.
>>147294782
Gonna ruin your drone spot to get 5 points
>>147301114
>5 points
>not racking up upwards of 200 points by scanning everyone on their team repeatedly off of all your team's drones
So now that time has passed, how happy are you with Kapkan's buff?
>>147301698
Still rarely get kills with it.
>>147302160
really? I've been getting plenty of kills with it, at least as much as could be expected of traps
>>147301043
>dirty bomb general refugee
Welcome brother
>>147302160
Just got my first two EDD kills today in the same round after 75 hours in PvP. Although I usually don't pick Krapkan anyway.
>>147300738
Who else /dbg/ here?
>>147302745
just put 'em in a double doorway near the objective, when the round is close to ending they'll buy you a shit ton of time
>>147303261
Brother! It's been too long!
>>147301698
It's alright, good when the enemy is rushed to the objective, but due to its nature it's still easily avoidable.
>>147300575
I have not seen one cheater
>>147303261
You bet
>>147308561
Git gud and play ranked. Plat and higher is full of hackers, and blatant ones.
>kept getting shot at as defender
>no idea where, directional indicator shows the hard wall
>die
>killcam shows enemy shooting me through a castled window
>the barricade was merely a figment of my mind
>tfw front developing ptsd
>>147305335
also when placing an edd keep in mind the angles the enemy will have when entering the room(s).
Placing it on one side might let enemies entering from the opposite side of the room easily destroy it. It can also force those trying to destroy it to move into a compromised position.
>tfw playing with a scrub friend
I really want him to get better, but jesus christ I have to not only explain where the enemy is, I have to explain the layout of the room, and then how the room the enemy is in is connected to that room, and THEN where the enemy is in that second room's layout
jesus fucking christ
>tfw he asks where the enemy is and you don't even bother because he would still have no idea if you told him
>>147318414
train him in terror hunt to get the layout of the maps, then bring him to actual pvp. If he's not an actual retard he'll get the hang of it after a while and be able to learn maps quicker
>tfw when you're on a 3 hour win streak with the same rando's you got matched with from your first game of the day
This Rainbow Six community is a paradise for the puchis
>>147322396
what's this one called?
That's Yayoi
>>147322603
thanks pal
>>147322625
you're welcome
>>147322396
SHUT up.
does blitz flash work like stun grenade flash?
i.e. can you flash people even if they aren't looking at you?
>>147324779
I will fucking end your life bro
>>147325309
that's a yes? or a no, maybe?
Every time I die in this game it's because of some bullshit bug. Getting shot through client-sided bodies, getting headshotted THROUGH shields not over them, netcode lagging 20 seconds behind what's actually happening. I would be literally unkillable if this game worked properly.
>>147325462
I know that feel.
>>147325309
HOLDING YOU BACK BRO HOLD YOU BACK
>>147325374
My boy is trying to tell you that your question is absurd.
Puchi is meant for /aceg/. Get that degenerate shit out of a good general.
Don't you die on me!
When does the ranked season end?
>>147330176
when brazil ops arrive
used to favor jager over bandit for roaming and spawn peeking, but man this MP7 is fucking awesome.
>>147328045
And puchis aren't supposed to be in /aceg/, either. They only belong in /@/
Anyone use the G36C with Ash or just R4-C all the way?
>>147332350
used to use it, but R4-C is undeniably better on all fronts.
>>147332350
I like the G36C
auto shotguns are overpowered
>>147333508
you are overpowered
I didn't know they still make machinimas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyNfRTD2MK0
>>147325462
>Getting shot through client-sided bodies
Stop hiding behind bodies then
>>147335495
I don't dumbass. The problem is them being behind bodies that aren't there on their screen that I can't see through
>>147335582
You make it sound as though this is a common thing. I've never seen this happen at all.
>>147332350
I like the r4
>delicious ar15
>usable and shoots well
>fantastic irons
are you guys any of those guys?
all they do is say memes and be salty
>>147337772
no and I don't recognize any as 4channers either.
>>147335119
hey that wasnt too bad
>>147337772
What server? Never seen those names before
>>147339276
EU west
>>147339767
IEDEREEN
boop
>>147341493
>Nobody reinforced that trapdoor
I've never seen anyone use this angle before
>>147341669I like it when they're left unreinforced sometimes to basically serve as a trap.
>>147341796
>tfw escape route trapdoors
remind me why Blackbeard is a thing
>literal immunity when peeking around corners or windows
Who the fuck balanced this shit?
>>147344686
>it's a "platinum kiddie tries hard in casual and gets mad at you when you play recruit" episode
>Guy on team dies once to a perfectly typical scenario
>Spends the rest of the game typing in all chat about how good they are and how lucky the other person was
Its a video game. The casual mode of the video game, at that. Why do people care so much about losing?
>Bartlett University
Why does this map exist? It's the shittiest one in the entire game.
>herp derp, lets put a permanent smoke grenade so you can't see shit!
Why is ranked so heartbreaking
So many leavers constantly
Buck is the best DLC operator!
>>147349227
Thank god I only had to play through that a couple times to 100% the situations.
>>147325462
>Every time I die in this game it's because of some bullshit
Keep telling yourself that
>>147352753
weird way to spellvalky
people talk about being hyped for new dlc, or balance changes, glaz and tachanka can wait, i just want better netcode
>>147354107
That's a weird way to spell Hollywood.
has anybody played a game that has an audio distinction between above and below you? i might be retarded but i can't find one in this game so I almost never play near stairs if avoidable
>>147354956
netcode is okay, I would just prefer that the game doesn't matchmake me with Brazilians anymore. Them and people from fucking alaska.
>>147357963
>netcode is okay
so its ok you dump half a mag into someones head and he just turns around and headshots you by shooting into your arm
>>147358094
Just move to a first world country and get some decent internet, I've never had this happen in 350+ hours of play.
>>147358094
Not him, but seriously, git gud. If the enemy has low ping, play defensive angles. If they have high ping, peek aggressively. You have to play peeker's advantage, because high ping gives you an advantage when playing aggressively.
>>147358658
i live in america and not infrequently i get the little screenshot of them when they killed me with their head recoiled and blood flying out.
>>147341761
Pretty common angle in high silver low gold, bit it gets countered easily by leaning left from spawn and peeking fast with a 3 speed operator (ie. Ash). Still, it's not a bad angle after about 30 seconds in. Just be careful for those spawning in the front. Try crouching or staying to the side, and then occasionally peeking every few seconds to kill them as they leave spawn.
>>147348296
It hurts their e-egos.
>>147344686
Dude, bandit, rook, doc, and valk (especially with cams) all counter him. A good SMG with an ACOG wreak nigbeard. It's all about shooting above his shield to hit his head over it. If he's upside down peeking a window, just crouch/prone and you have easy headshots.
>>147349826
>casual
>we win a point, or two points
>1 to 2 people on our team leave
WHY
>>147352753
I agree, his traps are pretty good. I LOVE his Super 90, totally broken.
>>147359606
Because casuals don't matter one bit. Just play ranked, at least people there tend to take it serious.
why is it so hard to kill ash? firing right into her she takes more bullets than a 3 armor
>>147358993
>america
>first world country
>>147359836
also, random little rant, but from what I've been seeing, stepping out into the kill zone while playing as a Defender should be an INSTANT kill, not a delayed one. It's absurd to have roamers pop out of windows and kill people setting up
>>147360025
what qualifies then?
got off from a game with new peeps on TS.
They're pretty cool. Glad to see new faces around.
>>147360491
Countries with a crime rate below the scientifically designated, wholly non-arbitrary number of 40.
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp
>>147354040
I'm better than you will ever be lol
>>147361258
P O S T
.......T
.......A
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.......S
>>147361057
crime rate doesn't affect internet, i have fiber and odds are the servers are hosted in america or canada for NA
>>147358658
lol k
>>147358734
i always have lower ping then the rest so i cant use peeker's advantage
>>147362093
if you have 4 ping they'd have to have 396 ping to get the same effect as both of you having 200 ping.
>>147362093
>faster than 99% of NL
Are these you?
>>147339767
>>147341761
>people below diamond talking about the game like theyre experts
lol stop
>>147364175
>people who talk like ranks matter
lol stop
>>147363423
no i play in english
tachanka needs a nerf every time I rush his gun I just die.
Tachanka is jsut too op, there's no counter when he has infinte ammo and can shoot through walls
>>147364387
I agree. Not only does he get his tachanka gun, the best offensive weapon in the game, but he also has access to a mobile shield, the best defensive gadget in the game.
Did ubisoft really think it's okay for the same operator to be a monster at offense and defense at the same time?
What were they thinking?
>>147364387
>>147364740
>>147364740
What was Ubisoft thinking when they made Blackbeard?
>USA Pin event is going on
>Every time I've picked FBI SWAT we've won
>>147366495
>US pin event is going on
>stuck playing recruit on offense and defense
>>147366756
>US pin event is going on
>huge influx of terrible castle players
>>147365798
They weren't
>>147367351
it's still happening too. i thought most people would have pin by now but i still get people who castle doorways out of the objective at the beginning of rounds or castle between objectives.
>>147364309
>t. copper
lol it's okay your mom will always pretend to care about your opinions at least
>>147367696
>Playing ranked at all
>Recruits get more ammunition for their guns than the named operators
>>147367696
i was copper for a while yeah, with a 1.8 win/loss at the time. now i'm silver with 3+ win loss this season, and i've seen golds with 1.3 win/loss. ranks don't matter much.
>>147367964
not many irons are that good, aside from shotties, but i'll pick fbi swat recruit over montagne or castle.
>>147368206
your ratio is against bad players, stats mean nothing until you play against good players (good players aren't in silver)
>>147345587
>literally the only thing in the game to counter him in a reasonable time is tachankas turret
Well guess we finally got a shield countering turret after all
>>147368379
beating a team of all golds gives me about 30 points, losing to a team of all golds loses me 100 points. the ranking systems broke pal.
>>147368486
8 bullets from a slow firing turret isn't that good, especially considering peaker's advantage and droning which still both fuck tachanka over.
>>147293735
Red Orchestra 2 really helped me with this game
>Do not fear death if you can get 2-3 kills with it
>Flanking ALWAYS works
>If something even vaguely looks like an enemy, shoot it
>Be very creative with cover
I think it really helped get rid of the fear of dying, since you basically die immediatly if you get out of cover in RO2
any sign on when the new ops come out? I have 24k and don't know if I want to save it or not
>>147369840
At least in RO you respawn.
>>147370059
last week of july
>Using shotty in defense.
>Hear noise behind me.
>Reflexes kick in.
>Instantly turn around and shoot the teammate right behind me in the head.
I am not a clever man.
>>147368768
>lying on the internet
u silvers are somethin else u kno that
>>147370430
>>147370317
>"rook [mic glitch] your left!"
>jerk mouse left and blast teammate in the face
>"I said I got your left..."
>Decide to start playing rank
>8 out of my 10 games were 4v5, one was even a 3v5 with some tks
>Carry like a madman, 2.8 k/d, end up silver 1
>Happy to finally have a rank and play normal games with non-retards
>5 of the 7 following games are still 4v5 games
In one of them I was teamed with a level 18. No idea how that's even possible.
I'm never playing ranked ever again. This is a complete joke.
And don't even get me started on the netcode, it's the worst I have ever witnessed in 17 years of playing online games. (except maybe for GunZ)
>>147371908
>playing overwatch
>everyone is memeing and hating on 20 tick
>totally fine with it because I play siege and it's much worse
>>147372167
Are there even real dedicated servers in this game? It feels like some shitty, console, player-hosting servers, it's sooo fucking bad.
>>147370430
c u t e
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>>147372362
believe it or not it's actually worse in the division
So we can all get along, post your fave operator and shit that your teammates do that fuck you off
> Play Mute
> Teammates constantly barricade me in so I can't get to the crucial muting points in time
> Teammates constantly stand in front of doors they've just barricaded for no apparent reason, stopping me from laying my mute down
> Get shot often by people blindly spraying at drones
> Mute devices get shot often by shotgunning retards trying to shoot the drones from afar and nailing my mute
Seriously, the drones are like 10 points a pop or something negligible, just wait like two seconds for me to get out the way and pop them with a pistol.
>>147372167
I think Siege's tickrate is higher than Overwatch though, allegedly.
>>147373440
>Montagne
>shot in the back of the head by a teammate
the Mountain had a hard life
>>147373440
>Thermite
>no one goes Thatcher,Twitch or has fucking grenades
>>147373440
>be sledge
>watch my teammates waste time and breaching charges when I'm right next to them
Just ask
>>147373440
> Castle
> Nobody thanks me for barricading them into a 4x4ft cell
> Nobody says sorry after I get annoyed in the chat after they rip down one of my barricades
It's just fucking ridiculous really
>>147373778
"LOOK AT ME I'M MONTAGNE, I'M TANKING BULLETS I'M HELPING"
No. You're just in the fucking way, constantly stopping me from headshotting that faggot down the hallway.
Seriously he's the most useless operator in the game.
>>147368901
Compared to 3+ mags or getting point blank with a shotgun? It and glaz's rifle (which doesn't really matter) are the only things that come close to reasonable
>>147373440
Fuze reporting in
> All the fucking breach areas get breached before I can put down my grenades
It especially pisses me off if a ceiling didn't get reinforced and they come in and ruin it. I've also had a cunt shoot my grenades so they could put a breach charge down instead. I mean what the fuck?
>>147374241
>3+ mags
At most its 2 mags you retard.
Learn to count.
>>147373440
>blitz
>People expect me to be the first guy breaching
>People expect me to clear all rooms while they fuck around
>People expect me to fight 2-3 enemies at the same time
>And they expect me to do all of this while dodging C4 and traps
nah senpai fock you
>>147374076
In all seriousness, as a Castle player I hate it when
>I barricade a hallway not even close to the objective room
>do this so I can create a tunnel of death
>retard roamers who can't even be bothered to find a way around or who just hate seeing my barricades up take them down
and for no fucking purpose either. I take my shit away from the objective to avoid shit like this form happening, but apparently Jager and friends think they own the place and they MUST have unlimited access to every room in the building.
>>147374408
I ditto all of these, truly blitz life is suffering. The worst is when your team have all run in and died and its like 4v1 or some bullshit and they get pissy you don't live out Blitz's fucking operator video.
>>147373440
>thatcher
>silenced assault rifle
>people laugh at me
>shoot a window open when people aren't looking
>nobody knows where the sound came from
>throw a few EMPs in
>kapkan and mute are now useless
>OI WANKA TIME TO GET YA FUKKIN HEAD BLOWN OFF
>>147374390
>memeposting this hard
Besides that Valk was retarded. Didn't throw a cam out to see where you went, chased you even she must have known it was a shield, and ran into the open instead of taking cover across the hall.
>people in this thread actually claim attackers have an advantage
Like, are you fucking retarded? Around random corners and rooms in most maps there's usually someone camping in a corner nowhere near the objective.
>>147374827
whatever makes you feel right I guess
>>147374390
>wew look at me I got a lucky hs with my pistol, montagne so good
>>147359687
We don't take reddit memes here
>>147374891
Game's pretty balanced ATK/DEF wise. I think both sides have a near 50% win rate.
>>147375142
I wasn't even the guy you were originally arguing with. I just saw your post and how terrible of an argument it was, especially when all you had going for you was "baka" and "kys".
>>147373440
I seriously don't understand why this happens but
> Rook
> Two team members don't take armour
Just. Why.
>>147375170
>Implying it's montagne's fault for staying alive and not his team's fault for being shit shots
They had all the intel in the world to get the kills and they didn't do jack shit, which is the main issue with you anti-montagne gays. I can't tell you how many times I had a garbage team blame me for not shooting when I'm telling them where they can wallbang for kills.
>>147375665
>intel
>"Look at me I'm Montagne, I'm a phat drone and I'm useful"
kek
>>147375187
It used to be 50-50 on pc, and 52-48 on console (attackers having the advantage), but recent patches have mixed it up a little.
Now, Kapkan has become top picked op on console, and 2nd most picked op on pc.
Defenders on both platforms now win 1% of the time more.
>just wanted to reply to a post
>started a shitposting war on accident
>>147375863
Are you implying drones aren't useful?
>>147374408
>guy with shield
>not the first guy to breach in
Lol what
>>147293414
>play ranked
>teammate is blatantly using a wallhack
>enemy team in tears
>own team pissed bc he is stealing all the kills
>he insists he can locate people through walls because of his great headphones
>everybody reports, not that it matters
>can't kick him for whatever reason, thx ubi
>mfw I paid 60 bucks for this shit
>>147370616
if i felt like lying to you i probably wouldn't tell you that i was copper when you said t. copper,
>>147376030
No I'm implying you're a retard.
>>147374076
>>147374563
>>147373440
as a jaeger player i hate it when anybody puts barricades on anything during prep phase especially castle barricades. like god damn, i know i have three speed but i need to place 3 magpies, place 2 barb wire, grab armor, place two reinforcements, help with murderholes and run across the map, generally more shit than any other operator in the prep phase.
>>147376125
Just to him
>>147376646
Mute says hi
>>147376590
I think you're the retard if you don't know how to synergize with "walking drones".
>>147374360
if you are 100% accurate, which is pretty fishy.
>>147374390
what did montagne do that any other shield couldn't do? he may have taken 5 more damage from valkerie, but could have been any other shield and had a more relevant gadget than taking 5 less damage.
>>147376835
I think you're a retard if you think "walking drones" is not the most useless op in the game
>>147376835
>>147376950
you're both retarded desu
>>147376646
>defend library at chalet
>place 3 magpies, place 2 barb wire, grab armor, place two reinforcements
>go to window at the end of prep phase to camp the balcony ladder
>it's castle'd
>not even a mute on our team
>>147376992
no u
>>147375142
again this proves fucking nothing, as fuze he could have made a trap with his cluster, or blinded him as blitz. montagne is doing nothing other shields can't
>>147376950
I think you're double retarded if you think "most useless" isn't still useful.
>>147376068
how do you like your nitro?
>>147376646
As somebody who mains Mute, I have 2 words for you:I know the pain.
>>147377120
Fuze could have got rushed and Blitz could have gotten shot in his big ass head.
>guy on the bottom of the scoreboard says 'ez'
>>147377369
the only time I said EZ is when I got carried with 0/5 K/D.
>>147376815
you have to place down 4 things sure, but seldom do you have anything but nitro, and you're not picking the best operator for roaming so you don't have to run across the map to get to a decent position. mute overall is less rushed in the prep phase.
>>147376835
you can synergize with him sure, he's not tachanka bad, but as blitz you can just go by yourself and get the kills, allowing your team to risk less and push more angles.
>>147377157
Learn to read, my post>>147374209
always stated "most useless operator" not just useless. But I'm glad you backpedalled so far you resort to semantic and misquoting.
Took you long enough to realize how shitty he is.
>>147376815
>>147377264
I feel like Mute has the opposite problem where he has to stand around doing nothing while he's waiting for the important walls to be reinforced.
>>147377472
Mute has to put down his jammer to stop drones then he has to pick them up and reposition them behind reinforced walls after that.
>>147377054
i honestly tear down any castle barricades that aren't on windows, and most that are. castle is just shitty recruit honestly.
>>147359474
I hate Blackbeard players. Always defending what is easily the laziest, dumbest op.
>>147377624
But Montagne is much better for team assaults since he can just force himself in a room with almost no risk and immediately get enemy positions rather than waste time finding somewhere safe to sit and throwing out a drone. As a plus if people start ignoring him in a room he can get a couple pop shots off if the person playing him is smart.
>>147377315
fuze can get rushed but if you're sprinting at a shield most knife fights end up in their favor, whether it be because it's easier for them to time their melee, or because if you do bash their shield, they can turn sideways and still be mostly safe.
>>147376125
>Tfw picked up the game today at target for 23$
>>147377765
fair enough but you don't want to pull up jammers until end of prep phase, so you have right after the prep phase to place jammers. most the time i die as jaeger it's because i'm sprinting across the building 15 seconds into the round it feels like
>>147377637
I think you need to learn to communicate then, because "most useless" in a game like R6 implies that we're talking versatility in skills, and yeah he's not gona be carrying games like most other operators, but there are situations where he can put the odds in your favor in ways the others can't.
>>147377981
retracting your shield makes a distinct noise and any decent player will immediately flick towards its source
>>147377472
>mute overall is less rushed in the prep phase.
Again Mute main here.
>have to wait for Castle to wake up
>have to reposition drone-stopper jammers
>have to roam with inaccurate no-ACOCK MP5K when nobody else is (pls buff accuracy or give ACOG)
>have to anticipate enemy tactic from their stats
>have to tell 95% of Blitzers to fuck off when they only place 1 car battery on a multi segment wall
30 seconds are NEVER enough, but I like that hasty speed prep.
>>147377670
You can place jammers before they reinforce them, just don't hug the walls and the metal won't kill it.
The recent radius "buff" (it was direly needed) made that a bit less of a pain.
>>147378296
montagne requires multiple people to do what 90% of the time just blitz can do. i guess if you really like the magnum there's a reason to play him
>>147378296
Most useless implies only one thing: that every single fucking other operator in the game is more useful than him.
>>147378339
maybe most the time he is, but i never feel rushed playing mute in the prep phase. the main reason i play ops other than jaeger ever is that i have time to look at what team mates are doing or hunt down drones.
>>147378328
Not if your team is being loud enough
>>147378474
But sometimes that 10% that montagne can do can benifit the team way more.
>>147378520
Right, more uses, but montagne has more a more unique use.
>>147378878
not a great argument towards montagne being better than any other shield.
>>147377369
You're the reason why I keep doing that years after years. Thank you.
>this thread right now
>>147378678
>but i never feel rushed playing mute in the prep phase
It takes quite some time playing Mute until you know what and where you do the right things and in what order you have to do them,
I would even go as far and say he is the least intuitive operator, it is all learning by countless matches.
I play Jäger quite often when somebody else was faster than me picking Mute or the match score does not require 100% attention (3-0, 3-1), and even with the move-to-roam it never even comes close to an average Mute prep.
>>147379094
He's almost as situational as glaz really. It's not about being "better" as it is about being unique. People react a lot differently to a montagne than they do to a blitz or fuse. They usually flat out ignore him or get extremely aggressive, which can be used to help out the team in unconventional ways.
>>147379570
>They usually flat out ignore him or get extremely aggressive
This has been my experience as well.
The lower the rank of the enemy players, the more likely they will get into a tunnel vision trying to kill you, enabling flankers to rape them.
Or they underestimate the quick pistol draw and lucky headshot when hipfiring.
Against Gold and above I would claim that he is extremely situational at best and blocking at worst.
>Playing fuze.
>Want to get some sweet frags.
>Doorway into objective room is barricaded.
>Thisismymoment.gif
>Dude in front of me just runs right to it, breaches it, and immediately dies.
>I die too because I was in a hallway at the time.
>Lose obviously.
>"GG you suck."
Fuck
Montagne is useful in a handful of scenarios. One of them being Club House on Bomb when the bomb is in the stock room. Approach the room from the warehouse, throws frags in the stock room, push Montagne through the doorway and get someone to plant the defuser. ez win ez life.
>>147380537
please stop fuze abuse
>sledge a castle window
>ash immediately hops in
>kapkan trap hits ash
>splash damage kills me.
fuck
>find a match
>round one some faggot teamkills, we got an afk, and then two people rage quit because of it
>second round it's a 4v5 and we have to kick the afk
>game continues with bullshit like this
>final round, 2-2
>after all the perseverance we're finally going to win I can feel it
>some random chucklefuck that joins us teamkills one of our player
>he proceeds to leave immediately
>we lose the round because it's a 3v5
Next patch should keep track of how many teamkills you do so if you're caught doing to many you're forced into a labor camp. Fuck you people.
>>147380737
I think he's good on pretty much any defuse map. He's the best for covering whoever is planting.
>>147381070
>Next patch should keep track of how many teamkills you do so if you're caught doing to many you're forced into a labor camp.
Fuck, you caught me off guard
is there a cap to starter edition renown? Currently got 35k in 2 days with a 3 day booster
>>147381373
cap is like 13.5k a day or something, but that's for everyone not just starter edition.
>>147381373
50k a day with 24h cooldown when you hit it
>>147381373
>35K in 2 days
god damn neets
>>147381651
i'm a neet who lives in toronto but instead of staying inside all day I just set my settings to low so my graphics card doesn't overheat and leave my game on defend hostage lone wolf realistic and come back with like 6k
>>147380819
>Breaching front entrance.
>Sledge breaks down barrier.
>Immediately runs into the kapkan trap beside it.
Kapkans always seem to be the ones that make the most amusing moments.
Acog on magnum .44 when?
>>147381070
I feel like I've read this story before
>>147382283
ACOG not on Mac10 when?
>>147376125
Apparently you can't kick anyone when it's match point.
>>147382283
>"Acog on magnum .44 when?"
>.44 gets ACOG
>Montagne becomes a long range shield sniper
seriously whats the point of playing Buck, skellington key is a shit
>>147382942
I-it's b-bugged, I swear
>>147382942
you get to be Québécois
>>147383350
>get to be Québécois
that wording implies you would want to be Québécois, which is just silly
>>147382942
a sledge to create smaller holes and throw frags or just jump out of nowhere and shoot everyone
>>147382942
his marksman rifle kicks ass, i'm convinced the skeleton key is just for breaching holes in walls
>>147383521
>a sledge to create smaller holes and throw frags or just jump out of nowhere and shoot everyone
so basically a shittier sledge but for 25K renown
>>147383705
Twitch has one too and her gadget lets her be useful every now and then.
BB has one with a fucking shield.
there is not a single thing Buck can do better than others.
> Playing well
> Team chatting and having a laugh
> New guy joins
> Constantly calling people out, belittiling people
> Does alright
> Team stops talking, team dynamic ruined
> We narrowly lose
> Cunt blames the whole team even though he spent the whole time as Pulse and Smoke, just playing solo and shutting everyone up
> Next game
> Tell him to shut the fuck up
> Round starts
> Instant team kill from him
Seriously, why play?
>>147384214
Can you not just mute cunts or something?
>>147382770
mac10 not super deadly accurate at all range while moving when?
It's like one of the best weap in the game at all fucking range, seriously
>>147384095
Buck can make bigger holes faster than sledge and he isn't as vulnerable when doing so. He also can make shotgun murderholes without having to give up a rifle, making him more versatile in assaults.
>>147384331
Its more the whole team became quiet and stopped communicating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXdaH6jdJY
>>147384537
>bigger holes faster than sledge
shooting 5 times with skelly key is slower and gets more attention than one hit with the hammer and a sidestep.
>murderholes useful as assault
EXTREMELY situational.
>playing sledge
>going to hit a doorway with hammer
>walk up to door
>swing hammer back
>move back too quickly
>hear the THUNK as it hits the concrete
>bullets start whizzing through door
>mfw
Overall consensus on youtube seems to be against one shot headshot, what do all you fuckers think?
