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Dueling Network General #2221
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More nekroz support when?
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Xth for field spells that are not a part of the archetype they support.

what's with the resurgence of field spells anyway?
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Can someone give me a deck list for fusion based Elemental HEROs?
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4th for yang zings
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>>147061873
The same as Masked HEROs with less spells, less Xyz monsters and more Blazeman/Poly.
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Are any hand traps a must run this meta?
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>>147061859
Because now both players can have one so its more fun.
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>>147062245
I don't think any are a must run, but Maxx C is really good.
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Please help. I'm tired of using lightsworns as my engine in Chaos Dragon. I really want to swap to Hieratics The problem is that they Just aren't working! What can I do to make it so I don't brick in the middle of my plays?
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29154844
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I've been trying to get back at all those people sneakily adding Don't Check Deck option, or Anime banlist, or something like that.
Pic related somewhat works for that, but usually I met people with 60 card deck or just brick, resulting in duel more than 2 turn. Any suggestion to fix that? Maybe there's other more consistent and salt-worthy deck?
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>>147062263
>now both players can have one

Not the way I play
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>>147063070
>Don't Check Deck
Painful Choice
Every Anime "Draw 2 Cards" thing
Graceful Charity
1 Gold Castle of Stromberg
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What was Cosmic Blazar Dragon?
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>>147063471
It had the same effect as Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World.
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>>147063328
The way Komoney seems to be pushing fields, this may actually be worth money someday.
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>>147063664
I think you're confusing it with Super Fusion God.
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>>147063862
Same effect as that too.
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is atmos really dead?
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>Yugi and Kaiba structure decks released before Pendulum Domination
What is wrong with this fucking archetype?
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>>147064635
Defeated in a shadow duel by Rei. He made the mistake of relying on Infernoids.
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What would you swap the two Galaxy Cyclones in this side for? I've debated Stygian Dirge for more BA hate, but that match-up doesn't bother me very much. Maybe Vanity and something else?
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Come play some ygopro!
Hosting on USA with note /dng/ and password vidya.
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Would you?
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dark synchros when
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>>147064879
shit.
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>over a week and Checkmate is still ded
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hey so i've only watched the anime up to 5ds, should I just skip zexal and move onto Arc v or is it worth watching?
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judge by yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG9oamijzZ4
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>>147065368
Witch is cuter

>>147065462
Without Checkmate I only use pro to test new shit like the Crystons and Chemical Beasts. it sucks.
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>start second
>don't open Maxx "C"
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>>147065845

oops >>147065958
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>>147065845
Zexal is great. It has the best production values out of every YGO series, and while Yuma is a bit annoying the other characters make up for it.
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Are the new magnet warriors unplayable shit, or did they just get overshadowed by ABCs Sesame Street Buster completely?
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>>147066212
They can shit out fields of Gorgonic Guardian + Number 38 + Imperion Magnum once in every 30 games. But they're unplayable shit.
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>>147063348
>Painful Choice
Too much thinning for Empty Jar deck.
>"Draw 2 card" thing
Maybe, but I think just 3 pot of greed is enough, I rarely even use it anyway.
>Graceful Charity
Same case as above. Too much deck thinning, won't let me win against those 60 card deck
>Gold Castle of Stromberg
Maybe, but it won't make me won t1. It also isn't that good anyway. I've faced one with my Empty Jar deck and won by t3
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>>147066027
>start first
>open 2 Maxx "C"
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how do I into dinomist
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>>147066741
>maxx C their only special summon
>another maxx C
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>>147066798
Its like igknights but backwards.
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Good games, lad. I have to work on this Extra Deck to be honest, not having a 7 kind of gimped a few plays I could have done G1. Mind posting your build so I can try and help you out a bit?
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>>147066027
>Start second
>Have a wombo combo ready
>Maxx "C" ;)
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>>147066212
Gorgonic Guardian is a really solid card and they can shit it out, so no they arent unplayable


they dont have anywhere close to the board potential that ABC has and they have some consistency issues, but play them as a level 3 version of rockstun and youre good to go
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>>147066980
>play instant norden
>Maxx C
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>>147066929
I would really prefer to focus on just continuing to play before altering my deck, because though my deck is flawed i am currently struggling to pilot it. I want to learn what to search in what situation, how to do combos etc before focusing on perfecting my shitty petdecks ratios.

HOSTING YGOPRO NOTE /DNG/ PASS VIDYA
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>yang zing metalphoe feat. Ariadne
how many searchable counter traps can you deal with /dng/ :^)
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am i the only one who thinks maxx "c" is a garbage card like pot of greed which gives a ridiculous advantage to whoever draws it first?
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>>147067127
>Play on Pro
>Summon Bishbalkin
>Opponent chains Maxx "C" and draws a shit load
PERCYYYYYYYYYY
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>>147067508
What deck can I turbo out Beachball-Ken with?
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>>147067649
Infernoids seem to be the best deck for it.
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>>147067392
sounds like a far slower, shittier version of normal metalphos
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>tfw the Kuribandit hits two Wightprince and you summon a 6k beater next turn
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>>147067453
>draw Maxx "C" on t-n
>opponent never special summon since they're in advantage
Yeah, no. Pot of Greed will always give you advantage whether you're losing or winning. Maxx "C" usually just a more situational Upstart.

Other scenario:
>use Maxx "C" on t-n
>you draw a bunch for nothing since you got OTK'd that turn
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>>147068101
>Go Second
>Opponent has a decent board
>He drops Maxx "C"
>Opponent either goes +4, or I lose next turn because he's established a huge board and I have nothing.
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>>147067392
Time to go back to 2011
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Is Raigeki here to stay, or is it like Snatch Steal a few formats ago? I just pulled one and I don't know whether or not to sell it.
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>>147068394
Honestly it's kind of a crutch card. I'd say sell it while it's high, there are probably better cards that help your deck more that you can use instead of it.
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>>147068101
>running Maxx C with no other handtraps

l o l
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>>147068219
I don't know man, maybe something like pic related will help?
If you are running a good deck, you'll also have a good amount of trap that'll disrupt them or at least prevent them from OTK, no?
Or maybe that +1/+2 you give them won't really matter if you're careful with it.

Also
>activating Maxx "C" randomly for -1
>not chaining Maxx "C" to effect that will special summon
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>>147069006
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>Opponent activates Maxx C
>Set one monster, end my turn
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>only good when you open with it and every other time it's most likely dead.
>People complain about it
Just because you people lose a game of chicken with it, does not make it broken or unfair.
Plenty of people play through Maxx "C" and win, if you can not, you simply need to get good.
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>>147068848
Is there even a good handtrap in this meta?
Effect veiler targets and only for those in the field.
Ghost ogre destroy and doesn't even negate effect. Might be good for those field though.
Ugly loli maybe just good for mirror.

Most of those are weak disruption and won't realy matter even if you draw them. Maybe I should start siding Typhoon or something.
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>>147069470
No there isnt. We need something like good old Gorz to deal with these gay boards, but too many fields also pack negation for something like Gorz to work
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Maxx "C" is literally "STOP PLAYING NOW OR I'M TELLING MOM" the card, and anyone who likes it is a fucking whining crybaby who can't handle a game being played that requires both players' input.
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>>147069135
>does not make it broken or unfair.
Just because it's fair doesn't mean we have to like it.
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>>147069739
Maxx C is gay in a slower meta, where it becomes a "fuck off and sit there" card. During this meta fields are stupid spammy and its the only real counter to utter degeneracy
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>>147069613
Whatever happened to Gorz and Tragoedia?
I remember them being everywhere but then they vanished
>>147069739
>anyone who likes it is a fucking whining crybaby who can't handle a game being played that requires both players' input
You people don't appreciate Maxx "C". He's the Hero we need to save us from first turn lockdown degeneracy since it'll be impossible to consistently open with the outs to it.
His whole purpose was to counter Six Sam and Quasar masturbation and to this day, he still serves us loyally
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>>147069135
"playing through Maxx C
no deck should be able to just keep fucking playing when Maxx C is out, thats a symptom of another problem
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>>147067649
Either Noids or Bird of Paradise Lost.dek
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>>147070065
Just kinda faded away

a Gorz drop can still be pretty memey
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>>147070206
Man, Bird of Paradise Lost might be my favorite card that's pretty silly to get out. The snatch steal effect is perfect for a giant dumb bird, honestly.
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>>147067453
Not really. Maxx "c"'s utility depends on whether you keep special summoning thus giving your opponent more and more cards or you stop at one.

If you think it is worth it go for it. If not, then just leave the other guy at 1.
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>>147070585
>leave the other guy at 1.
>And leave your board empty
Perfect logic.
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>>147070737
Maybe start using monarch?

Or maybe give them some +1/+2 to make some subpar field to stall for the next turn? I thought most deck have some sort of defensive play for things like this.
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Maxx "C" is a problem because of the following.

>Player A is using helmet deck #69, goes first and has a Maxx "C" in hand
>Player B does X thing, player A discards Maxx "C"
Player B now has three choices.
>Push for OTK turn fucking one (don't meme, that's rare and player A probably has stun)
>Try and make some sort of hard to break board, Player A will probably draw 3-4 cards in the process so this means game usually.
>Pass and leave himself wide open, and likely lose because of it
I get that "C" is dead late game. But you cannot tell me this shit is fair.
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>>147071359
Don't forget that if you go for the second choice, there's a decent chance they can just Maxx "C" you again.
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https://ygorganization.com/tcg-structure-decks-yugi-muto-and-seto-kaiba/
>we're getting ABC before D/D
Even better is that Arc-V ends when D/D comes out.
Can't wait for the next summoning method/rule changes to make this deck even more worthless than it will already be by the time it comes out
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>>147071881
D/D players will go down in history as the most cucked mother fuckers in YGO history. Holy shit KoA hates that deck.
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New X- Head Cannon that's a union when
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>>147071881
Arc V is ending already? It's only been two years!

What will be the next game mechanic? I'd like them to settle with Synchros, XYZ and Pendulums but since it's a game company they never want their customers to be happy.
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Is the weird black luster soldier stuff they have today good by petdeck standards? Or is it just utter trash?

What about Buster Blader?
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>>147071881
Holy shit, how much does Tewart hate D/D/D?
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>>147072143
Red cards are next. I can feel it.

>>147072158
BLS is unplayable trash. BB is gimmicky, but pet tier.
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>>147072143
Could be that its not a monster? Like a new spell or trap type?
You know quick, ritual, continuous etc, a new thing like that?

Maybe like a spell that goes in the extra deck and you have to combine two spells to make?
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>>147072290
it's not hatred as much as fear
d/d is really good in the land of the rising sun, and kozmemes already lose to dracopals and a 30 dollar deck
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>>147070065
They were good back in synchro days because decks were less consistent and you typically didnt want to leave anything on board so your opponent would heavy storm you then destroy all your advantage. So typically decks would just draw pass if they didnt have any plays and Gorz allowed you to prevent dying and giving you 2 good beaters, then turning around and kicking his teeth in.

Nowadays theyre fat fucking bricks that dont do anything to help your deck engine and most decks have far better protection than a simple fat sub-3k atk monster.
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>>147072143
>5ds started in april, ended in march 3 years later (2008-2011)
>zexal started in april, ended in march 3 years later (2011-2014)
>arc-v started in april, ending in march 3 years later?(2014-2017?)
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>>147072143
Spirit Monsters (not those spirit monsters) like that one Noah arc of the original series.
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>>147071881
>I get my ABCs the day before my birthday
My dick couldn't possibly get any harder, unless the prices for shit went down before then, which they won't now.
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>>147072143
Mercenaries

In the extra deck, pay either LP or banish cards face-down in order to SS OPT during your turn. Helps prevent completely bricking.
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>>147069006
>If you are running a good deck, you'll also have a good amount of trap
Kek
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29155730
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how does one build yang zings?
topdecks lists deck lists that are either too old or too varied to make a solid choice.
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>>147074725
Wait for Longdong
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>Decide to try amorphage
>Guy plays doom virus dragon against me turn 1
>Tells me i should be disgusted to be playing lockdown
Where the fuck do i find players who are capable of looking in the mirror?
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>>147066929
I gave up on 60 card zefra. Even with the search its as shit as it first sounds, the main issue is how hard it gets to search the nekroz ritual monsters and how easily shut down the yang zing are.

60 cards and it still cant fit in any ways to get around even the most basic lockdown.

HOSTING YGOPRO USA NOTE /DNG/ PASS VIDYA
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>Almost all Yugi structure deck is shitty reprints

>Kaiba includes a Blue-Eyes and Melody along with the ABC support

hahahaha, Kaiba always wins
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>>147075982
except for when he's dueling yugi
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>>147076207
Fucking Yugi. He doesn't even play his own cards you know, he just gets some tall guy who resembles him to play. Its fraud i tell you!
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>play red resonator
>they surrender
Why do these people even fucking play the game.
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>>147076565
HOLY FUCK
THATS THE GUY I PLAYED AGAINST IN >>147075191
Hes even dumber than you realize, or a brilliant troll who just tells everyone their deck is sinful and they must repent by playing normal monsters only.
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STILL HOSTING.
YGOPRO USA NOTE /dng/ PASS vidya
Please fuckin play with me these people are awful, i mean I'm bad but they are so much worse.
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>>147076565
>Can't play stun
>Can't play gimmick combo shit
The fuck does this retard expect you to play?
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>>147076391
He did duel Kaiba and almost win if it wasn't for that Indian fuccboi interrupting and then forces a tag duel with his deck which is the poo not worthy of being in the loo.
Yugi is totally legit, it's just that Kaiba lets his pride make him do stupid plays like attacking a Magician Girl with Chaos MAX or going - 4 on his first turn to summon Neo Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon.
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>>147076880
Hang on, going -4 in the anime is not a bad strategy. In real life it sucks, but in the anime you WANT less cards because that increases your chances of perfectly drawing exactly what you need. The number of useful cards you have is inverse to the number of cards you have, its anime dueling law.
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>>147076807
and yet your host crashes.
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>>147077147
Eh? Well I'll try hosting again.
Maybe someone else should host and i could join them?
I just really don't want to play more games against people like "Cotton Candy".
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>>147076565
Wow what a bitchass niggers
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>>147077119
If this were true, Kiryu wouldn't have jobbed with Infernities MULTIPLE times.
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>>147076847
Skeleton mill
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>>147076807
Hosting. Someone come skill me.
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>>147077814
I'm dueling another guy atm but will get to you if you are still around afterwards.
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>all these bricks
Maybe I should just skip playing ygo today.
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>>147078137
If that was you, I apologize.

Kinda.
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What are some tips for playing AtoZ?
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>>147079169
Do not.
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>>147079169
-AtoZ
-XYZ
+gold/silver gadget
+cockadoodledoo
+transmodify
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>>147079182
Put on your trip and die like a man
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>>147079274
ANON YOU FORGOT GALAXY SOLDIER!
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>play exodia ftk deck
>use cup of ace 3 times
>get heads everytime
outskilled
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>>147079315
i also forgot iron call
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>>147079291
I don't remember my trip and don't feel like installing tripper to get a new, similar one so I'll just namefag until someone offers to kill me.
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>>147071538
>i don't want to get punished for overextending
maxx c is fine
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>>147079474
cold wave is fine too just don't overextend
build the wall
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Hosting tag out of boredom
US
/dng/
vidya
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>>147076807
That's why I can only stand the checkmate server.
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Is bricking part of the game?
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>>147079910
no, git gud
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>>147079804
>tfw 3/4 in tag
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>yfw we never get Lemon Magician Girl
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>>147080163
tfw I don't even get a turn
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>8k LP tag
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>>147080317
Don't you mean Choco?
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>>147079574
>cold wave extended to another turn
I agree, trump2016 my man
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How do we fix Dark Magician to not brick so damn hard?
>>147080621
Rehost with 16K LP?
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>>147080768
trump will keep illiterate mexicans like diamante out of america
god bless trump
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Hosting Tag
US
16000
vidya
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>>147080808
Make a Trade-In for spells. :^)
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>>147080846
implying im mexican
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>>147080808
do you like how i said my hand was a brick with soldier and IF?
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>>147063070
This is unbeatable
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>>147080981
All spaniards are the same.
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>>147080998
Lying is a sin.
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>>147081029
for people not checking deck, you could just use 5 exodia pieces and an upstart
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>>147081034
spaniard means born in spain retard
>mfw dng is retarded
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>>147081291
breaking news: illiterate mexican has no face
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>>147081034
I like you.
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>>147081225
Gotta make sure they don't see anything wrong in the RPS phase for maximum salt
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>>147080846
A vote for Trump is a vote to send Tewart to a summer vacation camp in the Hebron.
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>>147081029
>end up with 3 cards in deck
>Pot of Greed
>draw 2 Pot of Greed
>can't Pot of Greed with 1 card in deck, which is Exodia
>pass, get OTKd
>lose
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>>147081456
upstart
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>>147081456
This is what 1x Upstart is for.
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>>147081515
>>147081526
Damn, you got me there, I guess you literally can't.
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>>147081456
>still haven't grasped the logic behind the divine ratios
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>>147081029
>asf
>naturia beast
>horus
>exterio
>imperial order
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>>147081590
>open 4 pieces
>go second
>opponent makes 2 dat rank 2
>get otked next turn
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>that RIP AND TEARing all the ABC components out of the GY with Attondel
GG
Rehosting.
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Post old monsters with good effects but dumb summoning conditions.
>>147081359
I'm not sure how to react, but thank you!
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>>147081769
>>147081981
>mattering in don't check deck, the literal FTK format

The only enemy you can hope to defeat is yourself, if your opponent isn't also wielding a FTK then they're just a shitter.
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>>147082027
The kingu.
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>>147081981
I don't normally get happy when I see a ygo meme, or any meme in general. But the effort that went into this one, well done.
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>>147082027
When does he fuck Queen Dragun and make the Prince of D.?
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>>147082204
It's actually funny how monsters like Dark Balter got powercreeped, but this guy is still perfectly viable and worth paying 5000 LP for.
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>>147082027
If only instant fusion was a quick play.
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>>147082384
Powercreeped by the Doctor in Japan three years after being printed.
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>>147082027
>can't negate pendulums
so close old friend
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>>147082781

Now that I think about it, what cards would be significantly better if they were a quickplay?
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Almost every spell ever. Can you imagine activating Raigeki or HFD during your opponent's turn?
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>>147082917
Night Beam and Galaxy Cyclone
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>>147083017
Meant for >>147082917.
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>>147083017
I once got a guy to rage quit so hard at locals he dropped his cards trying to storm out, and that was just using Malevolent Catastrophe. Quick play HFD would get people fucking stabbed.
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>>147083186
>Malevolent Catastrophe
Oh, the HAT format...
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>>147081357
>implying im mexican
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>>147083321
Honestly, HAT Format right now, what would happen? Can it compete with the bonkers speed that's going on now?

Even my shitty DHero Resonator deck shits out a field of CWSD, Void Ogre, Ultimaya, and Beatrice/Dark Law 4 out of 5 times.
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decatron/seer disrespect
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>>147083321
Good catch. Dude was playing counter fairies and yolo'd into set 2 with a FULL backrow with no seven tools or any other shit down. When I flipped Catastrophe and Moralltach he turned a shade of red I did not know was possible.

>>147083516
Absolutely not. HAT was a solid deck but it only defined the format because everything else was pretty crippled at the time.
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>>147083516
>Even my shitty DHero Resonator deck shits out a field of CWSD, Void Ogre, Ultimaya, and Beatrice/Dark Law 4 out of 5 times.
I don't believe you. Even meta decks would die to such a field.

Other than that, HAT would be really strong nowadays with Card of Demise being a thing, but I can't tell for sure.
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>playing against a friend's Performapal deck
>he destroys Twin Twisters, one of my two facedowns, right at the start of his turn
>"Oh fuck, looks like you're going to win this one"
>he goes to Pendulum summon 5
>Solemn Strike it
>mfw

Pendulums aren't so inherently powerful with all the anti-support for them floating around.
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>>147083746
You're right, I exaggerated a bit, but the deck can get that field. I usually end up with an ultimaya, crystal wing and dark law though.
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I want to make a Gameciel-centric deck, but i can't find the fastest way to get him on my field and with 4 Kaiju counters at the same time.
How should i go about this if this is my focus?
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>>147082751

it wasn't powercreeped retard, since when does Dr Red make your dragons into hexproof monsters
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>>147084071
>I want to build a deck around one of the best side deck cards this game has ever seen
This is quite possibly the most unique request I have ever seen.
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>>147084071

triple Remove Brainwashing
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>>147084197
i want to make a deck around twin twisters
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>>147083746
Hands are useless in this format of untargetable/dodging/non-destruction removal, noone is going to walk into them.

Artifacts are still an okish engine, but even moraltach spam won't hold a candle to modern decks.

Trap holes are weaker than ever, so the Traptrix are useless.

Even with a +2 from demise HAT stun couldn't stop any deck unless they went first and opened multiple solemns, and if they did they still would not be able to output enough damage to kill you next turn regardless.

deck was only good because the format was a power vacuum full of petdecks.
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>>147084531
You're mostly right. Artifacts and hands don't hold a candle to modern decks, but Traptrixes can.
Endless Trap Hole is actually a pretty crazy card.
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>>147084332
You'll need Left Arm Offering to search it.
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>>147084836
Monarchs still get their effects, and can just tribute their set cards as normal, you basically just stop 1 attack.
Kozmos just dodge it or float.
PK would just pop the monster you booked, and continue floating.
Performapals would get hurt the most, but they will side in 3 twister 3 denkos at the slightest whiff of backrow and then your entire deck is done. Denko was specifically made so that shit set-5 meta will never prosper again, and thank god for that.
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what's the best waifu deck? I really like mine, but I do wonder what else is out there
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>>147085427
You're right, but they don't have to rely on that card all the time. It's not their only weapon.
Demise enables the use of Solemns, Sandstorm Mirror Force and other annoying backrow. Playing against these decks is basically RPS unless you can afford to use Denko.
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>>147085872
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Beating Kozmo with my Red-Eyes.dek now, be prepared Towart.
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anyone have a graydle deck
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https://ygorganization.com/ocg-crystron-sample-deck-recipes/
Wait, so the only S/T they'll get for INOV are the Trap cards? No Spells?
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>>147086331
Can it beat OCG blue-eyes decks? can it FTK?
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>>147086429
they got spells
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>>147086429

only a shitty field spell that's their only way to plus and even then you need to synchro summon crystrons

a bad librarian
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>>147086415
This has Graydles in it.
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>>147086536
>>147086632
BUT IT CAN'T BE SEARCHED BY SMOGER
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>>147086331
>Tewart limits Insight.
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>>147086776
Do infinity quasar reetoad dek next please.
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>>147086429
>>147086536
>>147086632
The traps aren't even continuous so they can't be used with the non-tuners' effect. What the fuck is wrong with Konami.
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>>147086927
>quasar
How do you suppose I make Quasar with this shit, Level Eater Quickdraw with that one Blackwing?
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>>147086470
Need to check this later, but probably yes, the search engine in Red-Eyes is amazing these days.
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>>147087058

yep, Gofu and that one level 5 blackwing synchro, level eater and arma knight
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>>147087408
How do you suppose I get a L2 Synchro out to finish the 12 for Quasar? What is the Gofu combo in full? Also, Gofu doesn't work with Red Layer in this, due to both needing an empty field, that's why I haven't been using it. Also, Quickdraw's discard can be useful, AND it's a L5 Machine for Infinity.
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Will Subterror save EM warriors?
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my shaddoll monstah dont resolve their effect when i discard him for twin twister.
Is a bug? or missing timing?
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>>147087965
mst negates, so twin twister is negating your monsters effect in grave.
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>>147087802

Gofu + Arma get everything to shit out multiple Quasars... Accel Synchron is used to get Formula
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>>147087965
We had this shit before with dark worlds. Shaddolls aren't BA you noob.
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>>147087965
>my monster's effect that works when it's sent by a card effect doesn't work when I send it as a cost!
It's one of these episodes, huh.
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>>147087965
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>>147061751
I'm expecting trap support. Nekroz of Clausolas can search a Nekroz spell/trap card as what it says...
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>>147087965
That was a cost. Shaddoll monsters need to be sent by card effects.
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>>147088150
>Shaddolls aren't BA you noob.
Just a reminder that Tewart overdid on the floating.
It was only the El Shaddolls which floated hard while everything else floated when they fused or got Raigeki'd.
Why the hell did he make BA float so hard just because Shaddolls make him feel lacking I'll never know.
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>>147088143
That eats up your normal, and involves running cards that don't compliment the deck. Won't work man.
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>>147088547
It was more of Noble Knights failing than Shaddolls
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>>147088547
BA was never very powerful to begin with. And since they only had Dante as their boss monster they needed the floating. BA with Shaddolls' grave restrictions would be pure trash.
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>>147088421
Same situation as Shaddoll Core, where there aren't any non-Core "Shaddoll" Traps.
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>>147088547
Jewart is convinced he's a better card designer than those dirty nips, so he tries to outdo them in every way.

Fun fact though, he's shit and I'm pretty sure the entire playerbase who knows of him hates him. Censoring, exclusives, pointless name changes, banned lists, etc... He does a LOT to paint a target on his back.
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>>147089008
Say that to my face you little bitch.
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>>147088217
so is cost? thanks anon
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>>147089094
I would but you'd probably change phrases such as "he's shit" to "THAT WACKY BOWEL MOVEMENT!".
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>opponent has cards
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>>147089229
I wasn't, but now I really want to.
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>>147089214

you can identify costs from effects with something very simple

Cards that use costs put a colon after that cost.
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>>147089257
red-eyes elephant
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>>147089094
that to my face you little bitch.
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>>147089395
Thank you. You're a good nobody.
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>>147089257
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>>147089094
>>147089008
>>147089229
S H A D O W D U E L
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>playing pkba
>opponent down to 1000 lp
>he pendulum summons end of anubis
>attacks and pass
>activate twin twisters, discarding farfa to destroy his sky iris
>farfa eff target anubis
>summon Tour Guide, ss cir, make dante and attack for game
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Tags when
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>>147089315
>Our benevolent overseer knows he's a better card designer than those silly samurai, so he outdoes them in every way.

>Fact though, he has wacky bowel movements and I'm pretty sure the entire playerbase who knows of him adores him. Localising, incentivizing, superior name changes, balanced lists, etc... He does a LOT to paint a heart on his front.
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>>147089594
FUCK YOUUUU
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>>147089727
You're doing gods work anon.
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>>147080968
>Discard 1 "Dark Magician" or a Spell/Trap Card that lists "Dark Magician" in its text; Draw 2 cards.

That would literally solve 90% of the deck's issues. Also discarding Navigation would be funny.
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>>147089974
Shut the fuck up and finish the Gurren Lagann archetype you cuck
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>>147089974
c-can i have trains now
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who the fuck is Tewart
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What's the ruling for ABC's de-fusion effect while there's 3 monsters on your field? Genex Ally Birdman was ruled to work while you have 5 monsters but I've heard of conflicting rulings from judges regarding Rescue Rabbit's.
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How do I get over Melodious Divas? If two specific ones are special summoned, all Melodious cards can't be destroyed by battle or targeted or destroyed by card effects. The only things I can think of are Grand Mole and Skill Drain, but those aren't reliable.
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>>147082204
I made a decent Last Warrior Turbo deck with HEROs and Empowered Warriors but my YGOPro install broke and I couldn't salvage the deck ;_;
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>>147090153
I'm pretty sure you can, but I did hear some weirdness about it in OCG. We'll never get a straight answer in TCG because of the shitty Judge Program, man I hate it.
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>>147090175
IGNISTER
FUCK YOU~
>you read this line in a different voice from the above
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>>147090048
When I'm ready, you'll get your new archetypes. In the meantime stfu.

>>147090080
When I'm finished making kozmo support

>>147090132
The great and bald man who created the mighty burning abyss and kozmo archetypes
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>>147090353
I see you watch Drew's channel.
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>>147090175
Ignister, F0, Utopia Prime, Kali Yuga, 107, Gaia Dragon, Nightmare Shark, Heartlandraco etc.

All the meta decks have a way out of it.
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>>147082917
Literally all of them. Imagine, for example, if Raigeki, Kozmojo and Dragged Down to the Grave (just giving a wide variety of examples) were quickplay.
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>>147090353
Fuck, you got me
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>>147089364
a colon?
@.@
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>>147090353
AWW SHIT
You got me.
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Why does Konami even still make trap cards?
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