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>Latest Patch
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118307
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
Memetastic maps by /kfg/:
>KF-Mall http://drive.google.com/file/d/0BywcqXA0Kt4IS3pwMFQ2VVRHZ00/view?pli=1
>KF-ParkingGarage http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642348804
>KF-DanceFloor http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-dance-floor-contest
>KF-Fog_Rig http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646654523
>KF-GreenStreet http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646131633
>KF-Antarctic http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644445723
>KF-LetsTryGas http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677201858
>KF-Nuked http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642313451
Mods by /kfg/:
>Anon's weapon skins and modded Soundtracks
http://mega.nz/#F!axEgHD7L!7d-vuxYC5SBMmADi6cMjlA
>""Abandon All"" and ""Abandon All v3"" music for Patriarch
https://mega.nz/#!FEpEBAiC!Zf4NcB6xp8esqmLi421un1qBCzF6xKicZowe0HpVyOA
https://mega.nz/#!EEAQjBoD!vLLLOTS9e0es3VNFVw8wg6pXgB8fMmhL0Fnm-2kQ0qI
>Engraveless 1911 skin
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/skins/143388
>Anon's guide to modding sounds
http://pastebin.com/UTnM0yb8
>Useful console commands for testing or goofing around:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=424641626
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc:
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Grind map for gaining xp fast:
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635
>Mapping/modding help, Bugs, Tweaks, Downloads, and extra stuff:
http://pastebin.com/w5jdaGVn
>Old 2015 /kf2g/ pastebin info (old server IPs):
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
EU servers:
open 85.236.101.21:8077?password=rage
open 51.254.187.123:7777 no password
For healslut!
Just let go, anon.
Will I ever see you faggots again?
>>146914384
Well, it's just an experiment. If it dies, /kfg/ is done for now.
Memes will save us!
>>146914454
you can join the Steam group
but it's not much more lively than the thread
>>146914607
sleep tight lad
>>146914673
Doesn't the group spend more time ERPing than playing KF2?
>>146914798
not anymore
now it's a lot of /pol/ with some video games mixed in.
>>146915179
Well that's better than ERPing at any rate.
>>146915179
Its mainly one guy who spams /pol/ links
>>146915643
yeah, I know who.
Not any worse than Overmeme though.
Regarding the advice on empty pulv being best zerk weapon, how do you keep it empty? Just only reload when engaging a flesh?
KF1 seems dead lately, what about KF2?
>>146916458
Yep. You don't have to reload it until you press the reload key.
>>146916517
Not as dead unless you want to play HoE.
>>146914240
Do you guys remember /kfg/'s worst enemy?
I think we should have listened him and not buy this dying piece of early access game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAYOoi56IU
>all the anime twinks are gone from chat
Literally why bother anymore
>>146917293
What's the point if they don't share lewd photos.
>>146917278
>worst enemy
>>146917278
>/kfg/'s worst enemy
Huh?
>>146917278
>/kfg/'s worst enemy?
Back then we just laughed at him. To say he was our "worst enemy" would be exaggerating. He was just a retard.
He's still a retard, but now people are more inclined to "agree" with him.
I don't agree with him, nothing he really says is true anymore. The game is total shit but not for any reasons he lists.
>>146917465
Cheap thrills
>>146917278
Our worst enemy are neps
He was just regular enemy
>>146917278
>/kfg/'s worst enemy
>Not John "We're gun nuts!" Gibson
E.Y.E crossover when? I wanna give brouzouf to you lads.
They've already made a crossover larper, they could just make him a cosplayer from Russia or something.
>>146918168
John is our ally and savior, just as Yoshiro is the bringer of fortune
same question
>>146913440
>So kfg, I've just started and I think I want to play berserker because I like slapping shit with a big Meaty weapon.
>Any tips for getting started and doing well?
if you don't mind, I'd also like some reasons for why I should pick weapons or what targets I should prioritize when playing, simply becasue I want to understand some of the game more.
as of writing this post, I'm going to watch this video to get a better grasp of the class im playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDCmAoUZQU0
Any thoughts?
>>146918412
I wonder who could be behind this post!
>>146918412
Shouldn't you be in bed, Yoshiro?
I am depressed by the several year history of this thread dying over and over.
>>146917726
>1 boss, 3 maps, and 4 perks
>grind fest or using hansrevenge because lol perk reset warning
>steam/TWI forum cocksuckers
>"wait for the final product"
He did his best considering the review was only a week after EA release.
>>146919108
>It's been a year since this webm
>trash zeds and fucking SIRENS still teleport
"Listening to feedback" my ass
>>146918005
wow that's super rude
>>146919407
It makes the game harder, you casual!
I wish players would be teleported to the zeds instead!
>53% recent score
It's over, lads. Tripwire won. By changing the resistances to be slightly less retarded they suddenly won the fanbase back over.
The good old "fool them into thinking we're retarded then give them what they want" trick always works.
>>146920278
>still at 79% overall
>people like this are allowed to post reviews at all
Is Alan Wilson even still part of TW?
>>146920963
didn't he die in a car accident like 2 years ago?
>>146920963
He's actually the mastermind behind these patches
>>146922110
i heard he's re-enlisted back in the SAS. apparently he's trying to get his confirmed kills above 25
>>146922968
Just look at how happy he is.
What has Gibson done to TW?
This wall of text just got posted in the forums.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=1493800#post1493800
Relevant bit.
>People love recall (doing something you already know) but hate recognition (learning something new) one thing I learned is with the Kf fans people want all weapons to feel extra powerful and kill thing if they hit their target from what they recall as a weak zed. Take for example the stalker. She is actually always meant to be a higher threat then she was even in kf1 we just never nailed it. Heck most the time your shooting and she happens to be in the way of a bullet and dies. In the last update she was more inline to the threat we had pictured way back in kf1 days but the problem was that the players recall is this zed should be super easy to kill and it just didn't click in there minds. Which is totally valid and a great learning lesson for me.
It's not our fault that we made a common enemy an annoying chore to kill, it's the player's fault for not appreciating our vision!
Also, I like how he had to discover that players like their guns to feel powerful and kill shit in a game like Killing Floor 2. Well no fucking shit; that's what the goddamn gore system is there for. People love killing dudes with powerful weapons and watching them explode into pieces, not plink them to death with shit weapons (except for the one weapon that hurts like normal). Any moron could've told you that.
Christ Tripwire is clueless.
>>146926187
I TRY TO HEAR
LEND MY EAR
>>146926187
>posting walls of text well after the work day about how he feels they can go right with KF2
go home Munk you're drunk
>>146926187
>Heck most the time your shooting and she happens to be in the way of a bullet and dies.
Do people seriously think Stalkers are supposed to be hard to kill or that they are only killed by accident?
They're fucking short, invisible, skinny women. The challenge lies in seeing them and not getting hit in the face by their moves. They're not meant to tank hits like a Fleshpound.
I mean yes the Stalker in KF1 was pretty much a joke but I don't want the Stalker in KF2 to be even more invisible, faster, hit harder, AND be tanky. Fuck off.
>>146926187
>I feel as though Tripwire are forcing teamplay through resistances, new strategies through knockback and new ways to think about the game entirely through PvP. It seems as though there is a goal to make KF2 far more than just a simple co-op horde shooter. All these stats and weak zones / vulnerabilities make it seem as is TWI are trying to create a complex and in-depth meta for the game.
>When it came to kf2 project it was for me a dream project that the team and myself could try to take the concept of kf1 and take it to the next level.
>The hard thing which in ways I wish kf2 wasn't kf2 and its own game is to please kf1 fans that want nothing more then kf1 and still make the project grow and be something new and improved over the first game.
Did Munk just admit that the op was right and they're trying to make kf2 into not killing floor?
>>146926187
Then don't make her a small athletic chick with martial arts. Maker her thiqqer, stronger, give them a pack leader that's more visible that has the others fan out and attack while they're focused on her.
Just don't tell me this 4'2 acrobat is supposed to be a heavy hitter.
was there an update because 1/3 of my rpg shots disappear into nothingness
>>146926306
VOICES
INSIDE
Is the SDK the only way to test out different cosmetics?
>>146926187
How about making Stalkers into glass cannons that can deal alot of damage or make players bleed directly from HPs?
>>146926187
I'd assume that fucking invisibility would be enough.
If they really wanna make them a threat they should make their attacks hurt, not make them survive a blast from a shotty at point blank.
>>146922110
Witnesses report that a faint "WE'RE GUN NUTS!" was heard fading in the distance.
>>146926187
I've made an account just to tell him that a small little women being a threat by taking bullets to the chest like a wall and not the fact that she's invisible is stupid, did I do a bad?
Did they really nerf dosh gain on long mode?
How bad is it now? I never felt like dosh gain needed a nerf, the ammo change makes it so you need to spend a fuckload on ammo so nerfing dosh means you won't have a whole lot of money to buy extra weapons for the boss wave.
Honestly they need to go back and balance bosses again. Bosses aren't that difficult to beat in practice, they just require you to unload a fuckload of ammo into them and if people start dying the difficulty comes from a battle of attrition rather than an explosive action packed fight.
>>146931872
No. You did good; we must at least try to show them the error of their ways before we must stay tuned forever.
>>146916805
>tfw haven't played KF-Mall since last year with /kfg/
>>146935258
>haven't had real fun since InD
Gibson stop fucking the game, Yoshiro stop apologising for him.
So far this cash nerf has been pretty shit.
Can barely afford to keep myself outfitted with Sawed off and M1014 let alone buying AA12
>>146937130
Git good. :')
>>146937130
Then play short or medium length like TWI intended.
>dosh decrease based on medium games
TRIPWIIIIIIIIRE
>>146920598
>unlimited hours of entertainment
>UNLIMITED
my fucking sides
>>146937905
It's liie something from a As Seen on TV product.
>Tripwire will never revert the cash nerf because they don't play above medium or hard
What did they do the cash?
>>146928716
ONE LINK
TO JOIN IT
ALL
>>146938756
But their metrics revealed that people were getting cash too fast, and metrics never lie!
>>146938901
Could they not just play the fucking game on hoe or sui and see how bad their retarded changes are?
>>146939131
Why play the game and spec Suicidal and HoE pubs to sse how people actually play when you have NUMBERS FROM METRICS!!!!11 Numbers are perfect, man!!!
>>146938901
>>146939241SHUTYOURMOUTH
>signed up for their forums so I could complain about them justifying the stalker being a threat due to the new resistances 2 hours ago
>still haven't gotten the confirmation email so I can't post
I guess I'll just stew on my anger for a little while.
>>146939131
They can't do anything if they're on a cruise ship.
>>146939445
Once you get the confirmation e-mail, mods have to approve of your first few posts.
You see, TWI doesn't want anyone interreupting their hugbox that everything is dandy and the game is heading in a great direction.
>>146938780
TWI's cash flow slowed from bad reviews so they slowed our dosh flow.
>>146938901
I bet they don't filter by fucking map and all the KF-Cube servers are polluting their data
It would explain most things they base off of """""metrics""""""
>>146939550
>mods have to approve of your first few posts.
So I can't even criticise they're stupid decisions and obtuse logic in a way they'll actually see it without sucking their dick for a week or so?
>>146939721
You've got it.
>>146939721
That sort of attitude is out of line and uncalled for!
I'm revoking your membership Anonymous.
>>146939828
Gee, thanks for the info Yoshiro.
>>146939673
You mean filter out a very easy custom map that could skew statistics? That's crazy talk! Our metric system is too advanced to be handicapped by such a thing!
Is it a good idea to get offperk weapon like RPG for berserker? Also what skillbuild do you use for zerk?
>>146940156
Berserker isn't worth playing at the moment, I had to set up an auto-kick to get rid of any zerker players on my HoE server.
>>146940156
Notry the Evis it's really good, I usually use all the high damage and the move speed skills.
To anyone that wants to give TWI their two cents on how they're taking Killing Floor 2:
Don't post your thoughts in a thread, as mods will have to approve it, meaning it probably isn't going to go out. Instead, PM Munk directly. I don't think there are any PM restrictions when you first sign up.
>caring about kf2 now that neptunia v2 comes out next week
lol?
>>146941759
Not all of us play weeb shit.
>>146941534
THIS CAT'S BACK IN THE GAME
>>146940156
First up is movespeed and damage.
Then you have to look at team composition - if your team has someone to take cafe of the big guys, like a sharpshooter or a demo, you can take care of the trash - the Nailgun and Eviscerator make short work of big crowds, and the Evis can even help you with the Big Guys.
If you need to take care of the big zeds,pick another class, Berserker is really awful at the moment.But if you're back is against the wall, you can grab the Pulverizer and try to smash big zed heads with it. Just remember to block occasionally, or you'll die really fast.
>>146942275
wow that's super rude
>>146941759
What the fuck are you even doing here
Is this game good now?
Haven't played it since 12/08/2015.
>>146942704
spreading the joy of good games
>>146942795
No.
>>146942512
Thanks for advice.
>>146942795
Game is plagued with bad decisions on TWI part, the flavor of the week seems to be lack of dosh for long games on higher difficulty, knockback from trash mobs and teleporting sirens.
Its not unplayable and can be fun. Im playing on suicidal.
>>146940607
How's this? Do I sound offensive or anything? I'm worried I might just get ignored if I don't suck some dick to some degree.
>I think it's great that you're actually responding to people's concerns and feedback and I would love to say this in the thread but I'm worried a mod might not approve of my post. So here goes, the Stalker is a short, invisible, acrobatic women. The challenge she poses to players is seeing them and not getting hit in the face by their moves. They should not be able to take hits like a Fleshpound with their build. While them being more of a threat might be what you were going for, the implementation of her is counterproductive to this and makes it confusing when she is able to take a DBS shot pointblank and be fine.
>If she's meant to be deadlier than giving her MMO tier resistances isn't the way to get that across, up her damage to make her a threat while keeping her the way she is. That way she becomes a legitimate threat without making every weapon but rifles feel like pea shooters.
>To be clear I really love KF2 and I do want others to love the game too, but some of the recent changes, poor community communication with Yoshiro at the helm banning legitimate criticism, and months between updates when the point of EA is to let unpolished aspects of a game release and be tested by players so developers can then polish content may just kill this game. I really want this game to be released and liked because a lot of the developers seem like very nice people that make good games and I look forward to future titles but right now the future seems bleak.
Do you guys think TW even lurks these threads?
I know brood is in the steam group and he joined the chat to play a few times but it doesn't seem like anyone else at TW would care about /kfg/
>>146944107
They come here every time their self-esteem is getting too high and they need some hard truths to moderate it back to levels that are in line with reality.
>>146943232
>>146943232
I'd try to put some emphasis on the idea that nerfing the player's power isn't the best way to make things more fun and challenging. Ask them to try more things related to the enemy's power, like increasing damage, or giving enemies more special attributes related to the enemy's strength, like them being able to do more damage to the play er at a certain angle or whatnot.
Just focusing on the fucked up Stalker balnace in 1035 is tackling a symptom, not the issue.
Is the fastest way to level still to use the gamebanana's map and then put it on HOE?
>>146945320
fastest way is cheat engine.
>>146945361
Is KF2 not hooked into VAC? I always assumed it was so I never wanted to fuck with it.
>>146945386
there's no VAC in solo play, that'd be a really dumb thing to do.
>>146945621
Don't think CE works anymore. inflating the XP just drops down to what it was before alterations again.
>>146946001
it worked in the sharpshooter beta patch.
>>146946143
Yeah, and I'm not using CE wrong either. I'm pretty familiar because of RPG Maker. Not sure why. I set all 3 values for the xp to 6500000, unpaused, shot something, and the xp just resets.
>>146946269
Head to the cheat engine forums and look for the KF2 cheat table, pick that up and use that, you need to change the value for 25(or whatever level you) from 0 to 1, then make sure to checkmark the box on the left of the level otherwise it wont work properly.
It's a bit buggy, but it gets the job done.
>>146946567
Oh my fuck I haven't palyed since demo update. Can you do anything about the fucking AWFUL m14 scope?
>>146946739
another anon already did/is working on it.
Medic > SS > FB > Support > Commando = Gunslinger > Demo > Zerker
Objectively right list.
>>146946981
No, this is the objectively right list:
NOBILITY TIER
Sharpshooter
[POWER GAP]
MINOR NOBILITY TIER
Medic
Gunslinger
[POWER GAP]
[PEASANTRY GAP]
PEASANT TIER
Berserfer
Serfmando
Serfport
Serfbug
Serfolitions
>>146947928
>Not playing Shitterbug just to make people mad
you lot did notice shotgun damage falloff was completely removed back around the sharpshooter update, right?
>mfw leveling Commando in KF1
I've just hit level 5 and I'm about to shoot myself.
At least with Support you have stupid penetration to rack up about a million damage in a few runs
Commando is just a snail, and the stalker shit is slow as balls
>>146948294
I can't find it in the changelogs so they must've removed it and forgot to tell anyone.
Can't believe they removed the headshot damage falloff finally, maybe they realized it was just as arbitrary as the resistances.
The google docs still say shotguns have damage falloff so someone should tell him to update it.
>>146939873
>2016
>STILL no Insult Players
>>146948856
You should have learned the nuances of Commando by level 2, just fill out the rest of the perk on a perk leveling map like everyone else
VS will save KF2!
gibe more content pls tw.
>>146951351
*removes content*
>>146951508
T-Thanks John Gibson... How silly of me to ask such a thing, I'll buy another Deluxe Edition right away sir...
>>146951351
Sure lad!
> You can't shoot while in the middle of beeing knocked around time window
> 9mm has infinite ammo now
> Stalkers can teleport even when they are in a plain sight because devs think it fits "agile" theme
> Resistnaces are back, but it is reworked and improved! This time trash zeds have huge perk symbols floating above their head to let you know what kind of weapon you need to shoot them with and which weapon is ineffective.
> Crawlers have such a great fire resistance that firebug heals them.
>>146952065
>Crawlers have such a great fire resistance that firebug heals them.
The sad part is that TW could actually end up doing that considering their track record of being complete retards.
>>146952065
>Sirens not only neutralize explosives with their screams, but also bullets now too!
>>146952065
>according to our statistics nobody plays support so we removed him
>we have a new perk in the works to replace it thought so stay tuned!
>>146948294
>>146949123
You all best not be kidding around with that.
>>146949305
Reported for wanting to bully fellow teammates
>>146953178
Smeghead
>Take for example the stalker. She is actually always meant to be a higher threat then she was even in kf1 we just never nailed it. Heck most the time your shooting and she happens to be in the way of a bullet and dies. In the last update she was more inline to the threat we had pictured way back in kf1 days but the problem was that the players recall is this zed should be super easy to kill and it just didn't click in there minds. Which is totally valid and a great learning lesson for me. In short the only way to make something better is to try and refine or even fail.
>>146947928
>Berserfer
>>146953350
>trash zeds die to bullets
WOW NEVER KNEW
if they want stalkers to be a special threat make them rare spawns
>>146952690
>according to our statistics nobody plays support so we removed him
Caught me by surprise.
>>146953178
>You all best not be kidding around with that.
give it a whirl, bloats/siren/husk heads can be blasted just fine at any range you can get the pellets on target, finally
if you wanna really test it, solo, enablecheats, nospread, spawnzed sc
>>146949306
>tfw more than 30k killed stalkers and a bit more than 120k damage with commando weapons
Don't even have 2k hours yet and these stats are FUCKING RAW.
tinyurl z94bsjq
I'm like 75% sure that Rae is John's wife. wtf
>>146914240
>KF-ParkingGarage http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642348804
Bretty gud map should be made official and not that containment station shit generic map, Its already set in my server map-cycle list pernamently.
>KF-Fog_Rig http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646654523
Sweet theme but everyone camps on the spawn and maps feels kinda small and its easy to get overhelmed from all sides.
>KF-Nuked http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642313451
Bretty gud v2, also added
>>146958818
Don't ever post my waifu along with your retarded opinions ever again.
>>146958867
Can't help it anon, aryan features make me hard.
>>146958818
>>146959490
Such a slut, it's no wonder immigrants raped her. I bet she enjoyed it too.
>>146960323
Don't bully my current waifu
>>146960592whatcha gonna do about it buddy
how do i take off the dress in game
Remove passwordless yuro server from the next OP, it's coming to its deadline and I'm not gonna keep it up, it's been dead the entire month pretty much.
I just wanted to try friendly fire and nobody really likes it apparently.
>>146963852
i would attribute part of that to retarded game updates
>>146961861masturbate relentlesslynow post sauce
>>146964064
I think it doesn't show in the game's server lists either, because I get like 1 guy popping in every 4 days, which makes no sense for HoE, there aren't that many HoE servers available.
>>146937130
>>146937527
hey guys we're increasing the max ammo for most weapons and we're raising ammo costs while reducing starting ammo for higher tier weapons
hey guys we're making zeds arbitrarily tankier so you'll need to use more ammo to kill almost everything
hey guys we're reducing the amount of money you make so you don't get those neat T3 and T4 weapons so soon
>>146961861
Guess i'll just jerk off a bit
How do I solo scrakes and FPs as a commando on 6p HoE?
>>146965225
Don't forget the bullshit ammo box patch they did months and months ago that made it so you're basically never going to see a box before wave 6.
>>146967553
You do not, you can help do a chunk but unless its a solo thing, its best to leave them to others for the most part.
>>146967553
It's not viable without a huge amount of kiting space and not being interrupted. You'll need about 2 mags of a scar (when using large mags) to kill them on your own.
You're better off assisting whenever you can.
I suppose the method you could use is do a little predamage(makes it slightly more forgiving), reload, then spray into his head, fp rages, let the fp hit you once then bash him to get some space, run back, reload etc, then repeat. You'll need to make sure most of those bullets are headshots too.
If you can get emp or a stun it gets easier.
>>146967553
>>146970506
Here's a vid for demonstration, but it was on older version of the game. should roughly be similar to this.
https://youtu.be/NLc0br3Rm88
>>146970506
That doesn't sound too hot, it's basically pure luck and even more so when playing with pubs.
>>146971212
Kind of the point of the initial sentence. It's very hard to actually do and if you really want to solo big guys you might as well go slinger.
If they really want to make the game harder, why won't they give some zeds special abilities from PvP? When a group of zeds spawn, make one of them an alpha zed, which has more hp and special abilities like: Clot - enrage other zeds, Slasher - can move in real time in zed time, Crawler - long jumps and gas suicide when near player, Stalker - more evasive moves, Gorefast - blocks his head with the blade when he's in slow moving stage. They already have all the animations, scripts or other shit, they only need to apply it to AI Zeds. No need for some stupid resistance system, knockback or reducing earned dosh. They would make the game harder and more fun at the same time.
>>146949427
>Spamming "ahahahah" like a child after killing someone
>>146967553
You can easily stun SC with M14 and finish it off with SCAR. FP should be left to someone else. And don't forget it's not your job to kill big guys. Even if you're able to solo one, but in the meantime the team will get overrun by trash zeds, it will only mean you're a shitter that should be votekicked.
>>146949427
Can't wait for the VS tournaments! :')
Why do I keep seeing people in pub games who try to zap things with the microwave gun from ~100 meters away? I've always thought that weapon had a pretty obvious visual cue as to when it's actually hitting a zed, but maybe I was wrong.
Don't worry guys, any problems with the recent dosh adjustments will appear in the metrics! It's not like people are complaining about it now; the metrics will tell us everything!
https://www.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/4qg6sm/the_dosh_nerf_in_long_games_is_overtuned/d4svidx
>>146976000
>overtuned
I can't stop laughing at this.
What the fuck did you guys do to me
>>146976412
You can't say "unbalanced" or "unfair" because it would hurt TWI's feelings.
>>146953350
How about making her more agile and harder to hit instead of making her and invisible brick wall?
>>146976000
They realizeit a problem. Thing is that they need the metrics to see how much they need to change it to make it just right. Not defending it but if everyone has 4-6k on a long game at the last wave maybe you should tone the dosh gain a bit. Problem is they toned it down way to much.
>>146978067
You don't need to glue your ass to the metrics to see that they made the economy imbalanced, like what the TWI dude is suggesting. If people are complaining about it, fix it, not wait 2 or so weeks to see what TEH METRICS!!!! say.
>>146976000
they keep making the same mistakes over and over
>the metrics
>the metrics
>the metrics
try playing the game instead
the metrics lead them to believe that demo is god tier when it's just a buggy piece of shit that only gets strong at rank 25 and then it's only good when zed time activates
if they just look at the numbers and ignore the reason behind the numbers they'll keep making these stupid decisions
>>146978835
I just dont understand why they rely to much on the fucking metrics when they can play the game themselves. I still remember that time when hans 2 shot people on hard and despite everyone complaining about it for 3 months they only fixed it when they added the metric system in game.
I feel like whoever the team who does balancing for KF2 is literally that fucking jap I see in my chinese cartoons that go full retard when everything isn't going according to plan.
>>146979528
This guy on SA gets it regarding metrics:
"Oh, definitely. As an example, anyone who does web analytics work (and is good at it), for example, knows that you can only observe certain things from analytics and you must do user testing and engage users to really find out what they think and want. Analytics help you shape the questions you want to ask, they don't provide the answers, because they only tell you what happened - they don't tell you anything else. Not why, not what they think, how they felt, none of it. It's the same thing here. Different questions, because video games aren't websites, but the same principles apply.
speaking as someone who's done both web and game beta testing and analytics, I will 100% break out my logical fallacy of argument from authority here and stake the claim that their process is doing it wrong and reaping the fucking results. I will also - again - point at Overkill's skill rebalance (which they learned the hard way, too - they fucked up Crimefest a few months back by the numbers, but they said oops, turned it around, and look at that shit. It's awesome.) "
ded
so is this game good yet
>>146982656
It's okay, but TWI is making terrible decisions regarding balance.
nep nep?
>>146982764
there's love in the air~
>You will never have a Clot to assfuck whenever you want.
>>146983668
>tfw no dominant cyst bf
>>146983863
>no clumsy sex with a Cyst.
>tfw getting kicked out of server for "kill stealing"
Anyone excited for competitive VS tournaments?
Anyone?
>>146985178
Fucking crybabies.
The metrics reveal that this topic is not very active.
>>146985239
what the fuck
>>146980374
I've had plenty of won games that were a horrible waste of time and games that were eventually lost that were amazing fun while they lasted.
It'd be tacky, but an exit poll of "did you have fun Y/N?" at the end of every round like those servers that asked you if the map you just played was shit in KF1 would be nice to communicate just how much I don't appreciate a win after having to kite hans' wrinkly ass for 15 minutes.
>>146987419
That'd be ncie if there was an optional box that let you write in what you liked or disliked during the match. I'm sure I'd be filled with nonsense, ESL gibberish and "hilarious" joke answers, but they could get some good info out of it.
How would you make the stalker a visual threat while keeping in mind TW always meant for her to be tanky?
>>146988087
'roid her up and make her taller.
I don't know guys, I'm starting to really have fun again.
If anything, HoE is too easy right now, fps and scs are not a threat.
Stalkers still too tanky kind of... zerk still sorta useless... gorefast maybe makes too much damage...
Fixed firebug apparently, demo seems borderline OP right now, support and mando have respectable firepower, gunslinger misses his cool stumbles but still does massive damage.
It's not bad right now, it really isn't.
>>146988087
Alpha Stalker
Taller, thicker, more visible pack leader. Rushes at most vulnerable while stalkers fan out and go for others.
>>146988780
t.Yoshiro
>>146988087
Give him twomedicpistols.
>>146988628
Stalker hitting the gym with the scrake and fleshpound and starts rocking that linebacker physique.
>>146988087
Let Stalker remain invisible, just give her a ranged attack similar to Husk's that freezes the player for 5 seconds
>>146989014
Like this?
>>146990029
I want to cum on those girl abs
and armpits
Fuck, I want to cum all over a qt Stalker
>>146985178
>tfw kicking the guy who runs back and forth in front of everyone to kill zeds instead of defending a side
Two can play at that game anon.
>>146990151
Me too.
So I decided to play again after a couple months. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I can gather Sharpshooter has the highest damage potential in the game?
>>146991352
yes
>The most optimal way to play Commando is to set all of your skills to the left side now
>>146992532
Hey, atleast the 9mm is useful, sort of
>>146993254
It was plenty useful to Commando before you just kept that skill on for the early stages and never had to buy ammo after exhausting all of your AR-15 ammo which let you get SCAR/AK by Scrake round on Long easily.
Now you may as well keep that skill on at all times because it increases weapon swap speed as well and the Commando's job isn't to stun but wipe out trash so Impact is really only useful for soloing.
>>146958818
>Bretty gud map should be made official
Appreciate it anon. Honestly thought everyone had forgotten about it at this stage.
>look behind to see nothing there
>go past narrow corridor
>"OH SHIT they're a lot of dudes here let me run back to a more open area"
>run back into narrow corridor
>sixtyNIGGER pack of stalkers was actually waiting behind me
>roided stalkers block me off and I die
This has to be the definition of what the stalker was supposed to do.
>you will never explode all over xenos
Why even live
>>146996182
THE STRUGGLE IS REAL
>>146996506
>x is real
kill you're selfe reddit facebook my man and your circlejerk cult leader as well
>>146996779
x is gonna give it to you anon.
>>146996779
Q_Q
>That guy who plays a ded game and posts in a ded thread
What's his story?
>>146996779
Are you quite alright mate? how are things at the home, your head seems a bit screwed
>>146994737
You can't miss stalkers anymore though, so the game just spawned them there.
Anyway, here's zerkerwall
>>146996779
hi stef
>>146997051
Or don't talk to me or my Tayla ever again.
>>146996870
>>146996816
>>146996928
>>146996779
donut fucking reply to me
All me in the above posts though, I don't know why I'm replying to myself three times in a row. Make them four.
>>146997168
but
>>146997208
You're the one throwing a temper tantrum about social media and forums.
>stef will never kill himself
Cancerous piece of shit is why I left
>>146972287
Why wouldn't you want to gloat over someone's stupidity? The salt becomes even more tasty in VS
>>146974579
Me too! /kfg/ team when?!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q1A3v_ewoc
>>146997372
explain further, expert of social media slang a.k.a. homosexual
>>146997460
Kito is my waifu
>>146997389
>Implying Tayla isn't a real nigga and the subtle overture that is his next level meeming doesn't just go over your head
Remove Yourself
>>146997446
>salt
>also types in HAHAHA multiple times in chat like a retard
This is /kfg/.
>>146997683
Just do us all a favor and kill yourself already, Everybody hates you stef.
>>146997691
>Doesn't know laughing at people getting destroyed and pointing out their stupidity riles them up even more
What kind of Zen utopia are you playing from?
>YWN get a passionate hug from a Clot.
>>146997832
>k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-kill y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-yourself
how can normies even compete?
Guys stop bullying stef, she did nothing wrong
>>146998159
>welcome, brother
>>146998489
Edgy
>>146999827
>Where's Rachel
>WHERE IS SHE
Fucking hell the dosh nerf is absolute ass. Now I can only sell and upgrade my weapons in a way that I can only carry one weapon at a time. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea?
was is the metrics?
>>147000478
Metrics Never Lie (TM).
>>147000478
>playing unaware of this update
>800 to refill rpg
>>146999827
>SC spots an M14
>>147002732
Me on the left
>>147001879
They changed how much money you get from kills and shit, not how much ammo costs.
>>146994587
Not that anon but I was hoping that KF-DanceFloor would make it on to the workshop.
I really liked it since it was so simpleeven if my FPS wasn't so great.desu I like all your maps, too bad more servers don't have them available.
>>146997324
I can fucking hear it.
I guess that's it.
>>147005925
I only exist in these people's awareness of my existence. But then where is the real me, after all is said and done? And what about this me that's talking right now? It's me too... isn't it?
We just need more stupid quotes from TWI developers, qt or sexy Stalker pics, or /kfg/ Steam group in-jokes, and we're all set.
>>147006225
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong crypt. EYE thread is two graves down.
>>147005925
IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS
>>147006273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFE2pOImzY
>>146971212
Alright, i tested this in testmap with 6p on HoE.
Using scar with 30 rounds. If you have full armor, it's doable. but you'll go down to like 30 armor after one FP. This was done using large mags, backup, extra health/armor, 25% damage perks.
You basically spam bullets at the FP's head, then before he attacks you, jump. The knockback and jump combined will give you some space away from him. Run and heal/reload, then repeat this.
I think you need to do it around 3 times, less if you can headshot more consistently than me.
You can probably incorporate nades into this if you're more skilled than me but i'm leaving it at that.
You can also do it with around 50 armor but still very risky. At 0 armor you're fucked unless you got some healers or something.
Some things to note is that this assumes there is no trash around, which is incredibly unlikely. This was also done offline/solo, so this might not be 1:1 with online.
For scrakes, just grab an m14 as >>146972918 said, stun it, then spam your scar while it's stunned. If you can't stun scrakes don't bother, it's like fighting an fp but 10x harder, cause of infini rage and how much their head hitbox moves.
Hope this helped m8
>>147006771
Now we're talking!
>>147006332
>EYE will never crossover woth kf2
>you will never spout middle school tier aggressive lines while killing zed
>you will never shout "YOU GAIN BROUZOUF" at the top of your lungs while showering people on dosh
>support will never have a pump action shotgun satisfying like the depezador
>zerk will never have a 15kg distortion hammer
>commando will never be able to write on walls with a pinpoint accurate 100 round rifles
>demo will never have a weapon half as fun as the EYE grenade/mine launcher and accidently kill himself everytime he goes to the trader
>slinger will never have the bearkiller as an answer to the railgun
>>147007257
>you will never go fuller auto
>>147007367
>with almost 100% accuracy.
>>147007257
>>147007367
>>147007436
>nuke will never compare to the excidium's sheer "fuck your shit/woops I tk'd everyone"
>>147007660
>each rocket costs 200 dosh, the weapon weights 12, and if you're indoors you're guaranteed to kill yourself with it.
>>147007367
SUPER AUTO
>>147006601
I'M HAVING LESS FUN NOW
>>147009565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtJh_B4jDrY
I've got a wife and kid, another on the way,
I might get home if I can live through today,
Before I came out here I never used to pray,
Nobody loves me here, nobody loves me here.
>>147010430
I love you anon.
>>147010960
DAD'S GONNA KILL ME
>>147011030
I'll protect you.
>>147009565
>>147009621
There was also the WTFMut for KF1 that gave commandos the ability to go super auto, it tripled ROF and removed all recoil, you spent 10x as much time reloading than actually shooting due to the insane RoF
Wew lads I've just about finished my guide for using WWise in KF2, but I need a good cover image.
Can anyone suggest anything good?
>>147012351
Siren screaming
>>147012351
>but I need a good cover image.
>>147012402
Tempting, but doesn't quite convey the right message.
>>147012529
KEK'd but I'd like it to link to KF1 and KF2's music.
>>147011806
>>147012402
This would be a good picture.
>>147012628
Post of a guitar or something since KF2's music is mostly buttmetal.
>>147012351
>Not using the pic of the man who gave us THE Killing Floor anthem
>>147013680
But that's over used.
>have dosh jacket
>have red ems backpack
>dosh items go well with red backpack
>backpack covers up DOSH on jacket
what do I do?
>>147013868
Ditch the backpack. DOSH is more important.
>>147013989
Done.
But what are some non-doshblocking accessories that go well with the 2 slots I have left?
>>147014602
Can't go wrong with a tie, if you're feeling devilish you can also wear those streetpunk shades on your mask
Would you?
>>147015894
Hnnnnnng without doubt
>>147012351
Oh cool. I was planning on making a guide to sound mods too. I guess i don't need to now
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hold up.
If there's no full release until the end of 2016, doesn't that mean there's time for one more update?
Could they squeeze in SWAT and/or MA before it's too late?
>>147016427
Good one.
>>147016427
no, current tripwire is so fucking incompetent JUST GIVE MY FUCKING REFUND GOD DAMNIT
>>147015894
Purge? of course
>>147016427
>doesn't that mean there's time for one more update?
>>147016427
>that pic
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t_8cRM0ifU
They said that the game will game finished this fall, so if it isn't finished by then it'll only be the 2nd time they lied about the final release date.
SWAT/MA will probably be post-release, they already have all the weapons they're modeling in-game mocapped and have voice lines for them so I don't know why they're waiting.ALSO THE FUCKING KATANA HAS BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE RELEASE, EITHER FINISH MA OR GIVE IT TO BERSERKER JESUS CHRIST TRIPWIRE HOW CAN YOU BE SO DENSE!?
What did he say /kfg/?
>>147017691
Anything.
>>147017691Metrics.
>>147017691
>The game is fun and balancedon hard.
>>147017691
"We're gun nuts."
>>147017691
Demo is the strongest Perk!
>>147017691
>"We've been working really hard on the resistances"
>>147017691
Nothing, as usual
>>147017691
"the cash nerf has greatly improved the game"
>>147017691
>doing early access right
>>147017691
Stay tuned!
Righto, I've finished up that guide on WWise.
Thanks to that final Anon from the other day who just couldn't get it right with that other shit guide. Hopefully this guide will help other people in future.
It's quite a process so I tried to make it as idiot proof as possible. Even the dumbest pubbie should be able to understand it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=712455634
Just asking for thoughts.
To any other people who mod sounds in KF2, what do you think?
I'm pretty sure I got every required step and/or component, but is there anything I missed?
>>147017691
Nothing.
Which is why your image is accurate.
>>147017691
>Support is so good. you just have to aim. line them up. Ive killed 6 zeds in one shot.
>>147019220
The Voice Volume step is more situational. If you have a loud file to begin with you may not want to increase that bus volume, or even set it negative.
>>147019220
Looks good to me.
>>147017691
My own edition
>>147019708
True, the only reason I said that was because I hear a lot of complaints that sounds are too quiet.
If someone finds it too loud they can turn it down, but I just advised maximum as the general recommendation because I wanted to keep things as simple as possible for the guide.
Too many options and possibilities and preferences and the pubbies' brains might just fry.
>>147017691
Shouldn't Yoshiro look more terrified or whatever in the last panel pressing "Ban" button or whatever? Because that seems to be Yoshiro kind of reacting
>>147020020
Needs more misspelt words and poor grammar from Yoshiro.
>About to boot up KF2
>Email notification
>"Your final examination grades have been released"
>Oh fuck
>SMA 321 Final Grades
>Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, this is that exam I studied fuck all for because the update came out that week
>I played like 50 hours of SS and did like 5 hours of study fuck
>Did I even pass?
>A-
>my fucking face when
OH MY GOD
SHARPSHOOTER NOBILITY IS NOT A MEME
>>147022347
>klyps
>>147022498
"your going to love are new clps system!"
>>147023058
>http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1493800&postcount=5
>Even Munk doesn't know the difference between than/then and you're/your.
I don't expect them to have perfect grammar, but something that simple is just insulting.
>>147023785
That post is physically painful to read.
An observant official forum member has found the real issue with KF2: Why don't all of the Zerk's weapons have the same style?
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118574
>>147024076
Given that it was made at night and drags on so long, I'm p sure he was drunk.
>>147024372
You're probably right, but it still hurts to read.
>>147023785
>I don't expect them to have perfect grammar
I actually do.
I don't usually care about grammar, but when you are the face of the company, the representative, the face of PR, you need to present your company impeccably.
Now I don't blame Munk much because he's the Creative Director or whatever, it's not his job.
But when Yoshiro comes on the forum, and announces a new WWAUT that everyone is supposed to see, it really staggers me that he gets away with such poor posts. It's incredible.
The presentation is ghastly.
>>147024737
>That Gunslinger spaghetti western WWAUT
I still remember that cringey travesty.
>>147025775
Holy shit I forgot about that. That was so fucking stupid.
>Early access done right
>>147026307
That will be on KF2's tombstone.
Teleporting scrakes
>tfw just played a round onnormal
>realize that the game can be fun again outside of complaining about teleporting husks and braindead zerkers
>>147024356
Well yeah it's a bit odd considering they said Berserker was going to have all makeshift weapons but not that big an issue.
>>147027802
wow! thats a great idea!
>>147027802
You're gonna trigger my 1008 PTSD
>>147019220
Damn mate, thanks for all the help, but I've tried just convering one album instead of shit ton of songs and it still crashes for me. It must be something with my hardware or software.
>Crawlers will never walk on walls like in preview images.
Just small info I've learned now: Commando's Rapid Fire works with offperk weapons as well. Probably most of you knew it already.
Why Personal Best don't update probably? I've beat my old records many times already and I still see some shit like "Most kills 600" when I do more most of the time.
>>147002732
Did that cartoon even get one episode?
>>147030815
No.
>>147029481
Damn shame.
I'm sorry to hear that.
But look on the bright side, at least now you know it's not because you've done anything wrong, it's just bad luck of some kind.
>>147030892
I'll try it again after formatting my system drive. Lately I've been having some weird things like slow boot ups or random computer resets out of nowhere. Might be something at my side.
Munk just replied to my pm.
Thank you for your feedback. I agree the approach I went with the stalker was not good. We wont be making her more bullet spongy so no worries with that. We're working on new AI behaviors that will make her more of a danger but she will drop quickly from all damage. Can you give me some examples of Yoshiro deleting post that are criticisms of the game? As far as I know we only do that if the person is cursing like crazy at us.
Anyone have any examples? I know it's happened but I've never taken screencaps.
>>147030815
Even users on tumblr are against that fucking travesty of a cartoon, only person you see talking even remotely positively about it is the guy who holds the show's tumblr, aka Hayden Black.
>>147030359
So does Berserker's Berserker Rage skill, it's even faster than Rapid Fire.
>>147031449
Pics or I don't believe it
>>147032086
Habeeb it.
>>147032246
>>147031449
Yoshiro reminds of that retard CM when Destiny was still in Alpha and Beta. Never listened to criticism and only ever responded to shitty posts or tell people to wait for the game.
>>147031449
This inspires me to register on TWI forums and pm me to Munk. He seems like a nice, reasonable guy. As for making stalker more dangerous - if she dealt more damage from behind/side and tried to evade gunfire(like strafing to a side when gun is pointed at her using that animation when husk is firing, it'd make her perfect.
>Was just playing with my mate on some Sui pub
>Surprisingly decent team
>Win it easily
>Turns out one of the pubbies was admin
>He wanted to try HoE as he never had luck with it
>Turns out all of them never beat HoE even once
>Fuck it, let's carry them
>HoE Hostile Grounds long, we stay at the spawn, I hold the side facing intersection by myself, while they hold the rest, with my mate being the medic
>2 Sharps, 1 Commando, 1 Support, 1 Firebug and 1 Medic
>I tell my mate on steam if shit hit the fan, we kite togther
>Turns out we didn't even need to kite once, perfect run, no one died.. almost (one dude went down with Patty), scrakes and fleshpounds died like a bitch, even when faced with with 3 fp and 2sc, they've managed, Patty took like few minutes
>They lose their shit after winning, their first HoE win done like a pro
>I remember my first HoE win with /kfg/ and how fucking good it felt
>They add me to try other maps next time
After so many shit pubbies, it finally felt good playing with some random people. Nostalgia hit me hard when remembering how at the beginning I was being carried by /kfg/, how good they were, how I've watched those people play thinking "how do they do that?", "how is he still alive?". And now other people ask me how can I hold one side by myself killing trash and soloing every scrake or fleshpound that spawned from my side. How time has changed.
>>147033021
I think that's what he's implying.
>>147033059
I miss the days when HoE was nearly impossible and it took a team of extremely good (read: they have anime avatars) players to beat Hell on Earth.
Sure, it involved a lot of cheesing and Medic was broken as fuck back then, but it was a fun challenge.
Now the only challenge is "try to not get frustrated with the game's mechanics for as long as possible."
I don't get why they don't take advantage of Zed-variant types like how they clot has a weaker version (cyst) and stronger version (slasher)
They could make a Husk with an ice cannon and when you get close he tries freezing you and your movement speed decreases.
Gorefast with twin blades, scrake with 2 chainsaws,invisible sirens, screaming stalkers.
>>147033512
>Husk that shoots ice
NO
>Gorefast with 2 blades
Was planned but probably scrapped by now
>Scrake with 2 chainsaws
No thanks, the Scrake is enough of a ballet dancer as is
>invisible sirens
Umm
>screaming stalkers
...
>>147033512
No, the Tesla Husks from SCRN mod
>>147033490
I was from EU team, so we didn't have anime in our squad, except some US players joining us like Kenny.
>>147033974
>Kenny
What happened to that cunt anyway?
>>147033673
>Not wanting an Ice-Husk to make the floor slippery so you can't run away and you need a firebug to melt it or you end up running in place like an old cartoon.
Not saying they should be direct copy-paste versions of the old zeds, they could make them have lower HP to make up for how dangerous they'd be.
The only new zeds they thought of was Hans and that plant zed in the concept art of the PS4 conversation that they never brought up at all after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hekgFdn8Xt8
>>147033806
would be cool, still wondering what those "electric weapons" will be under the trader tab menu, I though the MWG and Railgun would be under that but they're not.
>>147033974
Yes you did. Don't think you can lie to me.
I just often played on the American servers because the EU one was dead most of the time.
>>147033059
>Nostalgia hit me hard when remembering how at the beginning I was being carried by /kfg/, how good they were, how I've watched those people play thinking "how do they do that?", "how is he still alive?". And now other people ask me how can I hold one side by myself killing trash and soloing every scrake or fleshpound that spawned from my side. How time has changed.
Are you me?
I remember playing with /kf2g/ on HOE in April 2015.
I remember being easily the worst player in the server, I remember dying literally every wave.
But I was earnest and I fought hard as a Berserker, often acting as a meatshield to keep other players alive by my deaths, so I was tolerated.
Now 550 hours later I've crushed HOE more times than I can count, and I can help turn a bad game around with relative ease.
Now I roll into local servers and people recognise me. Now I'm the guy who you can depend on to clutch it every time. I'm the guy who other people look at and say "Damn Jimmy, how does he do it?".
I was inspired by those old /kfg/ players. Sure some of them might have been strange or irritable or just plain crazy, but they were great.
Even if I had to be carried from Wave 1 to Hans, I was proud to do my part and play with /kfg/, even if I couldn't do much.
If the good old days could come back to us, and all the players too, I'd love to show them all how far the humble player they knew has come.
>>147034082
Kenny came to /kf2g/ from /pdg/, right from the start of EA. Some time after the LOTM update he left. Last I heard he went over to /dbg/, but I've not heard anything about him since.We knew him by his works.
>>147033490
I might be wrong, but I think back then HoE was more intense because zeds were coming at you all the time, there was no time for a breather. Now I think the spawn time has a cooldown between each group of zeds appear, so you shoot, reload, shoot and repeat the process, when back then I hardly had time to reload. And I think every zed was always sprinting at the beginning, but now only a small handful of them is running to rip your guts out. Just check the time, midwave 8/10 and it's only 40 minutes, while now it will probably take almost an hour to get this far.
>>147034235
The sad thing is, all the players I know from back then don't play the game anymore. I wish I had one more game with them so I can finally be on par.
>>147034636
There was A LOT of shit that made the game nearly impossible back then. Just from the top of my head:
>EVERYTHING teleported, including bosses, Fleshpounds, and Scrakes
>almost everything ran at you, the lowest sprint chance modifier was x0.8 IIRC
>Scrakes had literally no counter other than AA12 spam (that is until people figured out you could circle them to death, obviously)
>Medic was a trash killer that could heal people
>Berserker was a trash killer that could parry, which everyone could thanks to their knives not having a parry threshold yet
>Commando was a trash killer
>Support was a trash killer that could kind of use the AA12 and supply grenades to Medics
>obviously no Firebug, no Demolitions, no Sharpshooter, no Gunslinger to make the game easy
>no perks were actually able to properly kill big zeds, your best bet was to have a REALLY good Berserker who could parry despite ping/delay/netcode to keep a zed busy while everyone else unloads AA12s on them
>one Siren scream took away 70% of your health
>Hans' gas grenades did an insane amount of damage and his ARs murdered anyone not being instantly healed by a Medic
>Hans spawned FUCKING SIRENS on HoE
>you struggled to earn dosh on HoE and at the final waves pretty much everyone will be down to their last few hundred (unless you used the weapon duplication exploit)
>knockdown wasn't a thing, stuns weren't a thing(?)
Basically they've actually made the game easier by adding more content. The only exception I can think of is how they butchered parrying, which made it "harder" to pull off simply because 2/3 of all big zed moves are lol flashy unparriable shit xD that you can't do anything about.
>>147035027
I thought we all agreed to not save this image?
>>147034206
I wasn't present in all games, so the only guy I might count as anime avatar from EU was Alexo, but imo it wasn't "the anime" as in cute little girls or something weabooish, just some normal anime character.
And damn Flurd was a cool guy. A little bit shy though.
I miss Patchy.
I miss the whole team being Scully.
I miss anime avatars being regarded as god-tier skills.
I miss original content.
I miss the game having a promising future.
I miss when we had faith in Tripwire.
I miss when the game was good.
I miss when the thread was good.
>Hit level 25, can finally play the class to its full potential
>But now when playing it, cant help but feel that I'm wasting my time since I'm not earning XP
Does this happen to anyone else
Did they ever fix that whole "you cant parry on one whole half of the map" bug?
>>147035507
Farm all perks to 25 and play it like normal then.
>>147035027
DELETE THIS
DELETE THIS NOW
>>147035558
>UPDATE WHEN
Holy fuck, I just realized how long it's been since anyone actually WANTED an update from this game.
At first we wanted more content because SURELY TRIPWIRE CAN RELEASE IT IN A TIMELY FASHION? WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?
Then we realized the average wait time for a single actual update is 2 months.
Then we realized the game gets WORSE the more they update it.
Can we just bring v.1008 back?
>>147035180
>Hans spawned FUCKING SIRENS on HoE
That still happens though.
>>147035835
I've yet to see it then.
Surprise surprise, we're back to 1.5k players again.
So much for that free weekend huh, Tripwire?
>>147036050
Nigga it's 3am
>Crawler resistances
>Bludgeon - x0.9, Fire - x0.9, Microwave - x0.2.
Firebug still gets perk XP for killing Crawlers.
Fire is still less effective than x1.0 against Crawlers.
Microwave is still less than x0.5 even though they said they were gonna get rid of retarded resistances like this.
The ONLY enemy that has a resistance to any damage type lower than this is fucking Hans who takes x0.1 from toxic damage. Even the Husk takes x0.5 from fire.
>>147035180
>Scrakes had literally no counter other than AA12 spam (that is until people figured out you could circle them to death, obviously)
EMPs
>Support was a trash killer that could kind of use the AA12 and supply grenades to Medics
He was the ultimate weapon against anything big back then
>Hans' gas grenades did an insane amount of damage and his ARs murdered anyone not being instantly healed by a Medic
I might be wrong here, but Hans was always only dangerous when he went melee. I don't remember anything else that was a threat.
>Hans spawned FUCKING SIRENS on HoE
They still spawn on HoE, had 4 of them at once in the last game.
>knockdown wasn't a thing, stuns weren't a thing(?)
Strafelocking was a thing
The game was harder back then, that's pretty obvious, but what it was is Zerkwalling Beta Lite version, where you had Zerker in front tanking, healed by the Medic and everyone else spamming AA12s. The meta was pretty braindead.
