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>>146762202
>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/
>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3
>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n
>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
i want a souls bf
what are some good spots to hide and finger to watch blues and reds fight each other
>>146794671
But that's why I want fanmail, because the people who send it are giant crybaby bitches. I mean, I'm sure plenty of people out there are getting mad, I just want the actual text representation of that to keep and revel in. Like pic related, but for dark souls 3.
new thread new reminder
>>146795403
In all honesty, idk if it's because I don't keep cookies on my machine, but I have to redo my settings every time I go on 4chan. Which is fine because I just need 3 of them to check off.
That said, just don't fucking reply to him. It's really not that hard to skip past his posts.
Just don't reply to Lucifer.
Just don't reply to Lucifer.
test
>Invade
>Host is alone
>Runs to bonfire, summons phantom
>Kill phantom
>Chase host for two full minutes while he chugs
>kill host
>chug over his corpse to mock him
I love this game
>>146795243
it's kind of incredible and sad to me that this dude spends so much time here in a community where he has been universally hated for something like 5 years.
>>146795791
>This type of people might be around you in your everyday life
I appreciate you dsg, your alright.
Any tips for some kind of magic-based pvp build? I hear pyro is good
>>146795791
It's one or two obsessed people spamming shit like >>146795243, so I just don't pay it any mind.
>>146795161
Just pick a PvP hot spot.
>tfw rekking dudes at pontiff with my hexfag character
>not sure if everyone's trash, my build is actually good or it's just the low-tier dilemma in action
>>146796302
Yes it's good. But it's pretty hard to use and
>asking trivial things
it's already not for you
>that area in high wall of lothric before the "tower on the wall bonfire", where lothric knight walks
>watch the knight walk off
>go around the stairs to kill a resting hollow soldier
>when I turn around lothric knight is right behind me, swinging his sword
I shat me pants desu
>>146796449
post build then boi.
>>146796449
Some dark spells are pretty good. What are you using? Dark Edge now comes fast and hard since the patch, and you can use Lifehunt Scythe with the talisman poise.
>>146796449
post webms lmao
>>146795707
See, I'd rather just duel and not deal with any of that shit. Seems like a huge waste of time.
>>146796302
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49187
>>146796449
>>146796805
are dark sorcs usable and effective with a pure sorc build, or do you need fai/int for the damage to be decent?
xth for comfy vase
>try spiked mace on a luck build
>more than 100 less AR than Vordt's on my pure strength build
>this amounts to ~20 less damage per hit
>still takes the same number of hits to kill under ever circumstance
>but also has bleed to give me more damage against turtles and chuggers
>consumes less stamina per swing
>and allows me to use a much wider variety of weapons
So apparently AR is just a myth and strength is shit.
Why make a strength build when strength weapons work just as well on a luck build, with a smaller overall stat investment and a stronger array of backup options
>>146796362
Reminder that he's trying to goad people into replying to him. Let my sacrifice prevent other people from replying to him.
WHY IS TWINKING AT LEVEL 20 +2 SO FUN
This is literally the peak of DS3 online play-- nothing will top it.
>>146796804
>>146796805
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49190
Affinity > GDS > Dark Edge works almost every time. Spam GDS until they think you're low on stamina and roll into you then catch them with a Dark Edge for ~400 damage.
>>146797007
I loses a little AR but you get so much shit for sorcery bonuses it doesn't matter a lot..
>>146797007
45/45 give you only 30-50 damage more with Izalith staff than 60int with court. Not worth it if you're not pyro
>>146797007
There's less than a 100 damage difference between a 60int mage with the court sorcs staff using dark spells, and a 45/45 dark mage using the izalith catalyst.
In other words, there's really no reason to dedicate a dark build. The stat scaling is much less efficient even though the softcap ends up being higher. You spend an extra 30 levels for trivial damage.
>>146797151
because you're bad and your only hope of dunking on people is to mass kill newbies who bought the game yesterday
2 K A T
K
A
T
I'm hardly getting invaded when I'm embered.
I only get invaded when I used dried fingers.
>>146797329
You're projecting and you hate fun senpai.
I win practically all my 80-120 duels and 40-120 invasions as well.
Level 20 is objectively BEST. Yfw shitting on some vigor twin-kat retard and his 3 level 120 downscaled phantoms w/ ToD
>>146797329
Not every low character is a new player.
>>146797151
Low damage PvP has always been the best.
>fighting someone
>we have a fixed and consistent amount of delay between us
>make a read and time my attack/ parry or roll around that fixed, consistent amount of delay that's remained unchanged for the previous 50 seconds of gameplay
>the delay has arbitrarily changed by a significant margin at this exact moment
>due to forces entirely beyond my control and wholly beyond the ability for any entity to predict, the outcome of the match has been influenced
Why do people treat this as a valid competitive environment?
WHY ISN'T THE DLC ON SALE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>146797543
Post more katana babbies getting BTFO pls
What is good in duels against people using straight sword + offhand caestus with a big weapon to switch to for ripostes?
>>146797789
it's not out yet how could it be on sale?
>>146797543
Are you lucy?
>>146797553
>I win practically all my 80-120 duels and 40-120 invasions as well.
You never win agaisnt me. I win ALL my duels at any lelvels. Also stream some 20SL ebin pvp
>>146797852
Halberd or something longer than their sword. Don't get parried.
>tfw you gankslap people as an Aldritch Faithful with the MLGS
They never see the hyperarmor coming
>>146797009
snake?
>>146797872
Season pass ya dingus.
>>146797553
I've had the most fun doing Aldrich invasions around lv 70-75.
Most builds are close to fully formed but not to the bloat stage yet so skillful play matters, twinking isn't much of an issue since it's almost at the end of the game, and most importantly, there's very few gank squads.
Even when you do run into the odd gank squad there they can't just faceroll you since it usually becomes a 3v3 pretty quickly.
>>146797852
any GS
>>146797789
What dlc?
>>146797979
ye it's not out. i think we had this exact thing with similar post hen Das 2 went on sale before the DLc was even out
>>146797136
No, the BSS was so good because of it's thrusting attacks.
>>146797878
>Are you lucy
pretty sure he only uses meta weapons.
>>146797878
fight me senpai
Highwall
pass dsg
I'll host
Luck is a meme stat
>>146798223
Does he even pvp this time around? In Bloodborne he talked mad shit but basically refused to fight anyone from /bbg/
>>146798223
why is thing doing so much damage?
>>146798302
no anris hollow and bleed are good.
>>146798009
Ya, Aldrich used to be one of my favorites as well. But I've found it to be a bit too easy since there's almost never a gank squad and we'll eventually outnumber the host.
Farron is pretty fun too. I also have a softspot for the Abyss Walkers area; I love the swamp's slow+poison and it's fun fighting people as they wade through that.
>>146798223
I use the LKSw + AGS
>>146798414
flynns ring
>>146798223
Well, you post same 4 webms for month in every thread...soooo
Post fashion
>>146798302
You're a meme stat
>>146798560
mad?
>>146798578
Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.
You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.
Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.
Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle....
>>146798826
Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.
You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.
Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.
Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle....
>>146798435
normal red eye invasions at pontiff are my favorite, personally. You pretty much always get an entire fight club to take on, and you never know who will side with who in the grand melee
>>146798872
10/10
Clusterfucks are ALWAYS the best. Just a huge ass brawl and nobody knows what the fuck is going on or how it started
What did the DaS1 update today do anyway, aside from fixing item finding?
>>146798520
This?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49196
>>146798872
When I host there it is somewhat annoying when an invader runs out of nowhere and backstabs me, but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a part of me that immediately gets excited for the oncoming chaotic shitstorm. Nothing beats watching 4 phantoms suddenly go apeshit.
>>146798738
No. Clowns are exist for entertainment.
>>146798872
>>146799020
I could host a FFA FC if anyone's interested. Anyone know if the Smouldering Lake Ballista targets invaders?
>>146799184
I believe it targets everyone.
Rather than a normal FFA FC, could you try a "estus allowed" FFA? Estus allowed, entire map map excluding the caverns is the fighting ground, dried finger on to aggro the crabs.... + rule that you can't delib. kill the crabs
why is there no moonlight greatsword equivalent weapon for faith
>>146799392
>weapon for faith
>DS3
>>146799392
Wolnirs will get patched to be not shit
S scailing in faith and WA get's sped up with hyper armor
>>146798562
Currently using Dancer's Chestplate, Dancer gauntlets and sunless leggings. I was using fire with chest before using the Immolation Tinder
>>146799392
DLC :)
>>146799375
If that shit jives with everyone else I don't see why not.
I'd need a headcount to see who'd come, etc. Could also be at Lohtric Castle and Irithyll dungeon with the Giant, if that's preferable (I'd have to go kill him though.
>>146799041
something like this
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49201
>>146799605
If you do Lothric Castle, the priest will heal/buff random invaders/red summons
>>146798302
Luck is a meta stat
>speedrunners use luck builds
>luck/hollow is the strongest build sub-100
>luck/quality matches regular quality at 120 as both are better with certain meta weapons and generally outclass every other build/ infusion type
Luck is the most stat-efficient offensive stat in the game and enables the most diverse and flexible playstyle.
>>146799619
>11 end
>No stamina regen items
I guess caestus are cheap to use but ouch
>>146799672
Only if the host aggros them. There's plenty of space to run around though.
Why would anyone bother going for 40 dex or str when a infused weapon with min stats does almost the same damage even if the other weapon is buffed
>>146799552
ive seen this before somewherehttp://i.imgur.com/w12llMk.jpg
>>146799780
its enough for 14 attacks or 7 rolls
I miss "Mock" and "Pump Up"
Especially "Pump Up." That was the best all-purpose emote in souls history. You could mock someone without without being BM, you could celebrate with it, you could say hello with it, you could signal a good fight, bad fight, sad fight, non-fight, good night, sleep tight, done me right, outta sight, anything!
It was goofy without being a meme and benign without being placative. Literally the perfect gesture.
>>146800000
>quints
I just downed Nameless King on my third try when I started using my Lothric Long Spear. So I want to ask: Does /dsg/ like spears/pikes?
Are spears viable in PvP? Do they actually get parried all the time as people say? Are they not amazing in PvE?Yeah I know anything is viable in PvE but still my spear has been raping everything
>>146797935
>MLGS
>hyperarmor
I thought that was just a myth?
>>146800178
LKLS is good
Spears are viable in pvp. In my experience, getting parried at all is chalked up to predictability.
Give it a shot I guess.
>>146798562
You are smalltime spearman to me
>>146799780
you really dont need to go over 15-20 unless you're using ultra's
>>146799489
Please don't play with me, that sword looks amazing.
How does playing Dark Souls at 60fps work in relation to parrying and rolling iframes? does it cut the windows in half, or was "fames" just a perfunctory way to measure time? I'm not finding parrying any more difficult.
>>146800178
LKLS, GFS and DSS are all usable. Rest need some work to.
>>146800749
Any decently-programmed game separates draw frames from CPU ticks. When they do that, framerate is separated from actual mechanics.
DaS3 seems to have decided to be a decently-programmed game this time around.
>>146800625
i disagree.
using a curved sword in order to keep good pressure and damage i find myself swing 4 even 7 times as i chase someone down.
Similar if your going swing for swing with an opponent and you bottom out first and have to back off your ass is theirs.
I usualy play this to my advantage to hit them several times on the way out since they can only roll once and pause before trying to roll again.
>>146798562
>>146800178
It's not so much that they a;ways get parried, as it is that parrying is simply the most effective strategy against spears. They have no openings and don't really have any weaknesses aside from being parryable and having a telegraph you can react to.
So it's better to think of it like "the win condition against a spear is landing a successful parry." Yes, they are easier to parry than something like an estoc, but that doesn't mean that parrying is a hard counter, only that it's the only really effective counter.
>>146798562
Currently using Tinfoil Armor set.
>>146800325
what makes the LKLS good?
Which ashes unlock infinite titty scales? Is it the one in dragonland?
>>146801364
Yeah.
>>146801294
it really does look like its made of tinfoil
nice
>>146798465
you should slim down buddy
you can't fat roll through diabetes
>>146800749
The amount of time you have to parry is measured in (fractions of) seconds; the amount of time you the player have to react is measured in frames.
Higher framerate = more time for you the player to react (asymptotic function though). Late reply due to being summoned.
>ultra weapon r1 spam
>there's hyper armor between attack 1 and 2
>there's no hyper armor between attack 2 and 3
Useful information to know, tested against smough's hammer and finally astora GS.
t. gotthards user who had to test at what point i could rolling L1 and stagger niggas without getting hit by hyper armor bullshit. Roll over the first attack, rolling L1 past the 2nd and you're golden, confirmed.
Can AI of DaS3 become any more retarded?
>be a summon
>every enemy literally sticks to host allowing me to just walk behind them and backstab
What's a good build for wolnirs sword?
>>146801958
The Morne's Hammer build
>>146801837
They actually emulate the average DS3 sunbro/host who needs summons to get through the game. However, the AI was a bit too dumb so they had to make a bit smarter so it would challenge some folk
any final thoughts on this cospvp /general invasion /sunbro build?
would keep the weapons at +9 and use resins/urns etc pretty heavily
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/47882
>>146801789
All ultras have a long window of no hyperarmor during startup and when chaining moves into one another. You can roll through 1 R1 of any ultra and punish with Gotthard's safely. Your problem is you aren't rolling early enough. Remember that your iframes are huge and persist much deeper into your rolling animation than they did in DaS2. Roll predictively rather than reactively and you can punish any ultra R1 with a gotthard's rolling L1.
You can actually time this such that it strikes the recovery of their R1 before they have an open window to roll, meaning that every R1 they swing is a guaranteed rolling L1 counterhit they can't avoid. This works for all UGS and greathammers, but not greataxes (might work against the BKGA, not sure).
Gotthard's hardcounters ultras.
>>146801958
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49201
Best build for one of the worst weapon in game
>>146800749
I miss that autistic mask so much
>>146802287
I never knew the Gotthard hardcounter ultras. I've always switched to an ultra to fight against Gotthard users; I would just trade and end up staggering them and hitting em' twice.
It would be like something for 900 damage vs 450
>>146802429
Most gotthard's "users" you encounter don't really know how to use the weapon. The L1 is a mechanical hardcounter if used properly, but, well, anything can suck if not used properly.
>>146801345
Best damage in its class, longest range (gargoyle spear might be comparable range) but greatlance and pike are basically trash by comparison
>>146801789
>ultra weapon r1 spam
First bullshit
>>146802273
>99
When will you faggots catch on? Get the extra levels and put a life ring there.
>>146802671
I've no interest in the 120 meta
>>146802273
>keep the weapons at +9
Why? You will go against +10s
>>146802728
Doesn't matter. Going that high means you'll still be matched with SL120s
>>146802728
99 matches you with 120 lmao
its too late
>>146802728
No, that's my fucking point, 99 faces 120, and now you've put yourself in a ignificant disadvantage.
At best you can go 86.
>>146802273
>>146802728
Cospvp doesn't work in DS3
And you will invade 120SL+ pass summoned ganks for 90% of time
>>146802813
red sign range is only +- 10&10%
A level 99 can't be summoned by or summon 120s
They can invade them, but what kind of cuck invades in DaS3?
Would it be smart to allow sorceries/miracles/pyromancy to be charged, just like weapon r2s?
>>146802919
That's what you want to believe lol
>>146802759
so I can also go down to +8s, instead of just 9 and 10
>>146802870
I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
>>146802947
I'd make a lot more sense actually, in a Dragon ball Z kinda way
>>146802919
I finger myself for invaders all the time.
>>146802870
90 is enough to not reach SL120, it's SL+10+(SL*10/100), 90 limits it to 119.
>>146802919
Do you really think you can kill gank with fuckin SS?
>>146803097
Actually, you can.
:^)
>>146803213
>50 vig
what a waste
>bloodring with over 30%
that's just silly
>>146803213
>125
>>146801364
Pretty sure you can get to titty land w/o beating pontiff
>>146803213
this is exactly why a 120 meta is fucking retarded
>>146802287
I'll have to test this though I'll risk getting hit if I fuck it up in the process, doing a predictive early rolling L1 to hit during the recovery after their first R1 (and assuming that will actually stagger them so they don't go into the second R1 and fuck my shit up). Interesting if true. That said, I can at least confirm (just did it again actually, two more times in SL120 duels) that roll rolling L1 is pretty much guaranteed. Probably true of other weapons to tbqh, i.e. if you hit them after the 2nd swing with a rolling attack it should prevent them from continuing and you get a free hit.
>>146802640
I just need 2 and ultra weapons are notorious for only being able to win by hyper armor trading against smaller weapons. They swing a lot in hopes that you trade with them and they hyper armor through your shit and still hit them. For example if I rolling L1 with a gotthards into a profaned R1 R1 I'll trade my rolling L1 for their R1 and they'll do more damage. I think they may actually be able to go into the 3rd R1 while I'm staggered too, not sure though since I'm just going off of random duels, I don't have a sparring partner to test shit on, I just try shit on randoms since I have a backup save and dying doesn't mean shit.
The point is there's apparently a "window" after the 2nd and before the 3rd R1 where can hit them and cancel their attack. I'm more interested now in see if the same holds true with halberds in all honesty, hate those things. If I could just rolling L1 them after the 2nd R1 and not trade it'd be a huge deal.
>>146803198
It's ineffective. One stun - you dead. You can't even HA through 3 estoc spam.
>>146803620
Because it is fun and balanced?
>>146803681
>I think they may actually be able to go into the 3rd R1 while I'm staggered too
No. UGS can only combo 2 times.
>>146802429
>>146802523
This is why my original information about hitting after the 2nd R1 staggering them (no hyper armor into the 3rd swing) is such a bit deal. It's a subtlety that's not obvious or actually explained anywhere, I just found it by experimenting on randoms.
The whole point is that you don't attack into hyper armor, you don't trade. And apparently if you hit after the 2nd attack there's no hyper armor so the ultra weapon user gets staggered instead of continuing with the 3rd swing into my face, understand?
>trying to get vertebra shackles for 100% achievement
>summoning is ass
Please kill me
>>146803749
>le firesurge spammer
>>146803213
Consider this.
Rings other than Leo aren't really important, I'm guessing you want to stay with your Bloodring but fuck that.
>get invaded at the church
>have obscuring ring on
>stand by one of the pillars near the fire and wait
>invader comes in
>runs right past me
>looks around a bit and leaves, going right past me again
>squat and hang around, he comes back after a bit and notices me this time
>we end up punching each other for a while
>he gets a parry on me eventually
>use collapse
>he backs off
>drop him a spare Siegbrau and toast him, the superior bare knuckle fighter
>he takes it then drops me a soul cluster
>we bow and he and he BC's out
cute as hell, what a nice guy.
>>146803749
>125
>>146803019
>>146802947
Every spell is now Soul Memestream
Is Dark Souls 3 dead yet? New patch/poise/blue eye orb/dlc when?
>invade a gank
>host+3 passworded buddies
>somehow pull off a win, killing them all one by one and the host as he's desperately rolling around trying to resummon them
>get back to my world
>300k+ souls
How the fuck high level WERE these guys?
>>146803984
It's very dead.
When DLC releases.
>>146803864
Invading is great with purple because you can just kill a phantom who's also nerfed instead of always host.
>>146803984
Still seeing signs in most places. Fuck poise but the DLC should be in september
>>146803879
>>146803979
please see:
>>146795243
>>146804127
Don't you ever reply to me again.
>>146803884
Mugenmonkey fucked me over because I didn't check, the 10 extra luck from hollowing wasn't added in that screenshot, total AR should be 592.
>>146804102
Problem is, I can't even get to other people because summoning is shit
>>146802947
It would make them extremely fun and viable.
>>146801837
DaS 3 had the worst AI I've seen in these games.
I lost count of how many times I approached an enemy who just failed to trigger and kept standing around or patrolling.
Even worse is when they are scripted to ambush you, but you can just approach them from the rear or side, and they still just spend 3-4 seconds attempting to ambush me from whatever angle the developers presumed I'd approach them from.
They keep getting fucking lost in the game's nav-mesh as well.
Overall, DaS 3's AI feels so fucking lazily done.
in a perfect world, blues would be summoned often but prioritized to hosts with no phantoms for aid. Each phantom the host has should make him have lower priority for a blue. Thoughts?
>>146804127
Well, if you didn't point that out I wouldn't have known because I have anonymizer on. Thanks douchebag.
>>146803835
Ah, fair enough. Still good to know the magic number of 2.
What about halberds like BKG or gundyr's? I'm really curious if rolling attacking them after the 2nd R1 in a similar fashion will also be effective and not get hyper armored through.
>>146804306
Add a blue eye orb somewhere in your and you're hired.
>>146804306
blues take up a friendly summon slot though, so they already do prioritize people with fewer summons
>>146797151
Because you think you're good killing noobs, pve builds, people low on resources from clearing, and people whose builds aren't even close to pvp ready.
How do I beat Scott
>>146804306
At least you can hide your summon sign from gank squads
>>146803620
It's not like there is big difference. 80SL is most boring because 99% of time I duel against same melee builds. 1% are EZ frag pyros and mages with no hp. You can even use prison ring here
>>146804497
Use a Great Club
>>146803984
No dead. It's meme. Invasions on PS4 are alive
>>146804383
BKG can 2HR1>WA>R1
Other than that the regular R1 is also only 2 times.
Don't know if they "fixed" the 2HR2>R1>WA>R1
>all the people i want to play with are slowly dropping this game, one by one
why can't we just play this shitty game until the end of time?
Why does the scythe's WA not trigger the headshot sound or special stagger animation when you land a headshot with it?
Is it bugged? The damage went up (very slightly) on a headshot hit but it had none of the properties of a headshot otherwise.
Also, while playing with it earlier I discovered that it can phase right through people during certain animations and fail to trigger a hit. It happens in pve, too so the hit detection on the scythe WA must just be fucked.
>>146804497
Do more meme skills spinz
>>146804913
Are you saying you've managed to land a headshot with a Scythe in PvP? Didn't think such a thing was possible.
>>146804870
>mainstream fags jumped ship back to league or overwatch after their first playthrough
>recent sale brought in no new people
>hardcore soulsfags dropping like flies
>streamers won't touch the game
>>146804497
Stay far away, punish movement with knives.
>>146804913
They are joke weapons. They always were.
>Played through Dark Souls 2/SotFS at least 20 times.
>Feel like trying many of the cool possible builds in DaS 3.
>Remember tourneyfags ruined everything by crying about Soul Memory and I don't feel like playing the game again because I don't want my character to be gimped by whatever autistic Soul Level the community decided to limit the game's multiplayer to.
I can't have fun with this game because you guys needed to have your balanced PvP bullshit and now every build I can think of has to be prefixed by "But can I co-op and invade once I finished the build, or did I level past the autistic power gaming faggot zone and find only a barren wasteland?"
Fuck you people. I just want to start a character theme without having to plan it in a fucking character planner. You people are worse than power gaming D&D nerds.
Fact: there's not a single thing wrong with Soul Memory. If you reach the point where everyone you fight against has the same exact build, just reroll into a new character. That's it.
But nooooooooooo, let's limit everyone with this SL 60/SL120 bullshit.
I should have the fucking right to light roll in Havel's while casting sorcery if I damn well please, WITHOUT being denied online co-op and PvP.
Oh wait, I don't because you shitters needed to have your way.
Back to DaS II, I go.
I hope every single one of you burns in extra-hell, where you are not only tortured every day, but there are magical enchantments in place to keep your psyche from getting used to pain.
>>146804870
Thats just the nature of things anon, we cant do the same thing over and over. I just wish from put a little more effort in das3 especially after bloodborne and das2, instead we get das1 with a mana bar and no poise.
>>146804497
Stream?
>>146805084
Scythes in DaS1 weren't bad at all. BB, if that counts, has Burial Blade, which is also good
YES I FUCKING DID IT!
>got stuck at dancer on my sl1 run a while back
>lost all will to play the game
>drinking tonight
>decide to give it a shot again after weeks
>do it first try
Holy shit that was unexpected.
>tfw discovering apparently a running R1 into around 4 R1's is the magic number to roll around before I can rolling L1 with my bloodring gotthards against a carthus curved sword
>can't be roll caught for shit with bloodring despite spam and despite me rolling within range
Thanks for the info Your Waifu.
Pretty sure you're a /dsg/enerate right? Pretty sure I saw a "Your Waifu" in the cosplay event a while back.
>>146805028
They gave it hyperarmor a few patches ago. and it will usually land a headshot if it trades.
I managed to outspace and punish some UGS user with it while he was trying to stomp and got a headshot then, too.
I've been using it at pontiffs and there's loads of people bad enough to walk into it.
>>146805250
Omedetou anon
>>146804497
Just do not attack. He won't take the initiative, so if you don't attack him the duel will end in a draw.
>>146804497
Play reactive. Equip CSS with bloodring or estoc+havel. Never attack first. Backpedal all time. Do twitch spins/pivots all time and swap rings non stop for epic skill show. Backpedal until full heal. Attack him if he use gestures but never use them himself. Never hit R1 twice. Spam knifes. And remember NEVER ATTACK FIRST
>>146805175
>filename
fuck you.
whats a good amount of vigor for sl 100?
alot of people seem to think 27 isn't enough
How do I get good with the moonlight greatsword?
>>146803620
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>146805743
>alot of people seem to think 27 isn't enough
I love those people, they die in one UGS combo.
>>146805743
39 for melee.
>>146804537
they probably did that after ds2 bridge shenanigans
I got summoned so many times to some ganking jackass. I just wanted sun medals.
>>146805516
>NEVER ATTACK FIRST
This is the gist of it
Scott was shit in DaS2 because all he could do was play passive and punish bad players for whiffing shit in his face. When the meta moved past spinning and most of us got good enough to abuse pressure, passive players like him were a fucking joke.
Don't make the mistake of assuming DaS3 is like DaS2. At least as the meta currently exists, aggression is trash and passive play is always the stronger approach. Against shitters that only know how to wait, don't play their game. Even in this game, Scott's offense is still fucking trash and he can't hit anybody without waiting for them to try being aggressive against him and making a punishable mistake. Wait him out and he chokes.
>>146804537
Wait, that's what that setting is about?
>>146805850
>18 end card captor
lmao
>>146805884
>dunce crown
he really deserved to be oneshot.
>>146805516
this playstyle is so fucking disgusting i can't even bear to think of playing like that with a clear conscience
haven't even gone up against many reactive-aggressive players, but i sincerely hope that every single one of them gets hit by a car for playing in such an anti-fun and stiff fashion
>>146805289
There is in fact a Your Waifu running around the landscape and shitposting on /dsg/, I think I dropped them a dark hand once
>>146805084
Fug off, the Scythe from the catacombs was my weaponfu for a long time
>>146806084
Just because you're not having fun doesn't mean it isn't fun
>>146805902
man everything about being red in ds2 sucked
>invade bridge
>4 man gank squad with warped swords and jesters
>the only door leading into the level is closed and you can't open it because le balanced invader system
>can't even use estus because le balanced invasion system while host has like 6 sources of healing besides estus with 99 stacks
>>146806069
You can't just play without crown as sorc. Especially after clutch ring nerf
>>146806065
more than enough for carthus curved especially with chloranthy
>>146806084
rolls need to be fucking nerfed, theres too many free iframes
Bloodring should give current iframes and may aswell throw in the ninja flip animation
>>146806172
its fucking boring, any idiot can play with a leftstoc and some metashit weapon and just play passive. People act like this game is some esports shit when it dosn't even have any competative elements like a ladder kek
>>146806009
Any more ScottJund stories of old you could tell, anon? DaS3 is my first souls games so I like hearing about the community in the past, especially super autists like that guy.
is twinking dead? everytime i try i always wind up invading some retard with two phantoms and they're all just sitting at a bonfire.
>>146806358
You sound fucking salty dude
>>146806172
i'm pretty sure that people are almost always going to enjoy a spontaneous and chaotic battle over a cold, slow and methodical war of attrition
>>146806417
na, i just swear a lot for no reason
>>146806345
You can barely do a running attack and two swings with 18 end.
>>146806069
But the host is also wearing the dusk crown. Best option is just to swap out the crown for something else if you fight another mage.
>>146806483
Well I'm gonna keep having fun playing semi-reactively
>>146806343
You can't tell me what I can or can't do.
Don't need no dunce crown or clutch ring, crown looks fucking stupid.
>>146806240
I saw a lot of that. Usually I just BC'd out, but sometimes I got annoyed and set up warmths for whoever they were fucking with and blocked doorways to reverse gank the host. People who summon randoms for that shit can get fucked.
>>146806525
you can do four 2hr1 at 10 end and have stamina to roll afterwards, even more so with 18 and chloranthy
check your facts before trying to argue sl80 tard
>>146806530
Especially in invasion. As host I can stand his CSS even with crown
>>146805175
Soul memory is dumb.
Can't even make a co-op character because you just end up getting over leveled and unable to be summoned. Same for duels and invasions.
Soup memory is very bad. It might have worked if it was only used for ng and match making worked off of sl during ng+
>>146806565
how much int does that need?
>>146805235
RobFlynn Bone Scythe does things in DaS2 if that helps.
>>146806637
>gank squads
>in any way related to the posts
>>146804497
>He starts getting his shit pushed in
>Even with all the reactive playstyle
>"It's gotta be lag"
>"I'm sure it's lag"
>"Yeah it's just lag"
L M A O
>>146806801
>I can't read
>>146806785
60, I think that's the standard for any mage build, really.
>>146806791
>scythes
>ds2
you mean the universally acclaimed worst weapon class in ds2 and also the only weapon class in the entire franchise with parryable jumping attacks?
>>146806686
It really is dumb, you're forced to use the bandaid ring if you want to stay where you are
>>146806857
>watching his mage video
any news on DLC?
>>146806565
someofyouguysareok.webm
>>146806686
The only way soul memory would have worked is if it was on a sliding scale with sl, so by the time you hit level 150, you would be entirely matched on SLv instead, or if the highest SM bracket it was something incredibly low, like 1 million, so that almost everyone would be easily matched with one another.
Why is this Scott person the guy synonymous with having good pars?
Anyone notice how most of DS3's armor sets have a red and yellow color pallet?
>>146806392
Well as far as I know, he CE'd orbs and wouldn't touch the arena because he wasn't good enough to compete there, and invaded exclusively because that was the only way he could find players he could consistently beat. He also used CE to pout his builds together so he could invade at the lowest SM possible, specifically to avoid endgame players of a similar level to him. He basically twinked with top-tier weapons to stomp pve-players exclusively, and folded like a wet sack of shit whenever he happened to invade or be invaded by a competent player.
I streamsniped him a couple times with an ivory straightsword and he got so upset he shut off the stream after giving a million excuses.
In that context, all the shit he spouts in DaS3 about serious competitive environments and why people shouldn't complain about meta weapons is hilariously ironic. He is and always has been a bad player that abuses the top-tier shit just to beat on bad players. He is and always has cherrypicked his fights to make himself look better, and contrary to what he claims about passive play, he does it because he doesn't know how to do anything else
>>146806871
please explain how "wow it's just a game man i play for fun" holds any relevance towards the discussion which was mainly centered around talking about a cancerous playstyle that's surfaced in DS3's pvp
do you intend to defend havelstoc as well
>>146806686
i still remember first day after release when everyone already understood how shit soul memory is but tried to believe that this shit is turned off on ng+
>>146807157
who the fuck is this scott guy anyway? another retarded twitch streamer than you guys like to put on a pedestal?
>>146806565
>Don't need no dunce crown or clutch ring
Weak. Too weak.
I take back every bad thing I said about you. New weaponfu
>>146747174
Oh shit I'm sorry, that was probably me.
>>146807246
Pretty much. Although I personally hate all streamers.
>>146807246
No one puts him on a pedestal, you fucking tard. Everyone agrees that he is shit and can only beat shitty players with his wait game.
will giving myself a asston of consumable soul items with collector's edition trigger the buns?
>>146807179
The three posts concerned aren't talking about a flavor of player they're talking about salty bitches who call everything anti-fun because they're on the receiving end
One of them even goes 'this game isn't competitive or anything' like our little image over there
>>146806686
>use the ring
>script kiddie curses me and breaks all my equipment
>have to keep a backup save to prevent sm from getting higher
inb4 pcfag
but really, if you wanted to play or use a bow you were fucked a second time for having to bring up SM and slowly head towards the havel range just to play with a certain weapon
>>146807404
well you faggots sure like to talk about him. seems like every 10 posts his name is mentioned.
>>146807347
Are you ready to post some cool webms proving you can do nice with your weaponfu?
>>146807454
not to mention consumables like bombs as well
>>146807320
>duck crown
>X
>pale pine resin applied
Mage Slayer Tsorig checking in
>>146807447
>tryhard apologist
Hello Scott
>>146807523
nothing unites people like a common hatred
>>146807523
That's because someone asked.
Fucking tard.
>>146807679
right.....
>>146807212
Why would people think NG+ would change anything? Desperation?
>>146807569
That too. It limited so much. And if anything it made it harder for people who sucked and died a lot, because they'd potentially loose many souls and be put at a disadvantage of someone at the same SM that didn't die, but threw it all at SL.
>>146805516
Honestly, I'm still pretty certain gotthards + bloodring alone can beat anything. Not brainlessly, but in the right hands with someone with enough game knowledge.
I mean in my testing I've been destroying carthus crutch sword shitters as long as I roll around 6 times before rolling L1'ing, also incorporating some normal R1's into the mix when they think you're just going to roll all the time and they try to roll too can fucking destroy people.
Mostly a matter of knowing how many times to roll first before attacking. And it's not obvious how long people have before they run out of stamina (especially with straight swords and curved swords and shit) and they plan on backing off, but I can roll around 11-12 times with 37 endurance so I've certainly got all day to figure out the magic number for each weapon. That's what I'm in the process of doing now. The magic number of rolls for each weapon.
For the record it's mostly centered around 2's it seems, but for example weapons like curved and straight swords seem to be able to catch me if they just spam R1 for like 8 hits and I try to rolling L1 into the spam. That said, I've also been finding I can safely stab them from outside of their spam range if that's their plan.
Just finding it fascinating that gotthards, despite the hate, is actually a pretty deep weapon. Extremely powerful, but dumb players will get caught in R1 spams and hyper armor all day and get rekt. Knowing how to get in and get out is an art. An art I'm eventually going to use to beat shitter tryhard streamers like jund.
>>146807320
Back your claim up, I've already posted a webm proving that I don't need those shit items.
>>146807607
>some tard uses pale resin
>remove crown
>its effect ends
>put crown back on
>>146806938
As masochistic weapon choices go, it's still better than the lightsaber (which I also love)
>>146807669
>he's a tryhard apologist because he's right about me being a little bitch who can't accept anyone else and their ideas of fun, which in turn could just be 'winning' and I am now too bootyblasted to complete any sentences with any form of argument
>>146806414
Twinking is hardly a thing in this game. You can't have higher upgrade weapons than the host or 99 stacks of heal items. Best you can do is get +2 rings, max estus count/upgrade and weapons they don't have access to yet but probably got from their SL200 friends
>>146806669
No you can't. You need 27 end to do 4 swings and roll afterwards. Hell, with 10 end you can barely do 5 longsword swings. Stop making an ass out of yourself with your poor game knowledge and just avoid posting in general if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>146807740
>Desperation
of course it is
i remember a shitload of fan theories about sm in first few days
>>146807757
>still get AR buff
>take less damage from spells
>magic blocking shield still works
>beat up puny mage
>>146807179
>do you intend to defend havelstoc as well
I do. If it is OP it is the dev's responsibility to fix it, not the player's.
>>146807810
>fun at the great expense of others' enjoyment is an okay idea of fun
hello hitler
>>146807810
Keep going. We already seen here in /dsg/ ganksquads apologists
>>146806414
No, you just can't get a massive advantage with upgraded equipment,
You can still have access to rings and stuff from later in the game and potentially have more estus than the host and phantoms but you'll still have to be decent at fighting people because your damage won't be much higher,
>>146807858
You should have 124 stamina at 20 END
>>146807834
you can still twink but like you said, you can't upgrade your weapons without using a ring so you're pretty much on an even playing field with the host unless the faggot has phantoms which in my experience is 99% of the time.
>>146807858
how many can you do while onehanded?
>>146807932
>"dev's responsibility"
>From "how do I make" Software
lmao
>>146807947
>participation trophies
>>146805175
I dont play vidya all the time but its nice being able to play with irl friends who play the game a shit ton cause we are both the same level. But in scholar i cannot play with fucking any friends even with a small white sign and god ring cause lol sm. sm is 1.75 mil. made my build asap and didnt do much more after he was complete so i could do some jolly co op with randoms. I wish sm only was for certain things in ds2.
>>146807947
>>146807964
[response for more heavily salted (Yous)]
[Speech Check: Strawman]
>>146806565
>hit a guy at half health
>everyone else fell for the 27vig meme or less
>>146807882
All I remember was everyone talking about how fucking terrible it was and saying that FROM would remove it after they realized it was a stupid idea.
The theory about an item that would cap SM eventually got around but I'm pretty sure the devs copied that idea just to make people less pissed off.
>>146807858
now put rofap back on so everyone can see what a lying piece of shit you are
>>146808058
please anon, we're making an effort here:
>>146795243
is there a fight club going on?
Who's in on one if not?
no victory ahead
only sacrifice
Alright, it's finally happened. I got so sick of darkswords and oni and uba and phantom range washing poles that I've started off handing an estoc with gotthards equipped until From nerfs this trash and fixes their damn game
If you can't beat em, join em, I guess..
>>146808219
>steal the fire
>character flops down and shows the camera their ass
thought I fucked up and was tricked by Patches somehow
>>146808114
This was at SL120 and two of those phantoms were downscaled. Not sure how exactly health gets downscaled but whatever. It was a 1v4 nontheless.
>>146808219
>Not letting it die
The fire is dead, stop prolonging it
>>146808202
I'd be down
I've been trying out new weapon's at pontiffs but everybody has sub1k vigor
Feels like the level 80 meta is starting to try up for duels
Has any news about the DLC leaked yet? I really wanna know if the serpent heads will make a return or not.
>>146808219
Your character looks gay
>>146808056
You should use CCS 2H only.
>>146808295
t. Kaathe
>>146808202
>>146808296
I'd be up to host a Fight Club outside of Old Demon King if anyone's interested.
>>146808056
5 exactly.
>>146808121
>>146807998
With RoFaP+2 now, 124 stamina. Barely enough for 4 swings and a dodge at 20 endurance, while the retard said 10 is enough for 4 swings and a dodge.
>>146807740
>Why would people think NG+ would change anything? Desperation?
Because we understood that if it didn't turn off during ng+ then it effectively meant there was no end game and you would be forced to continually make new characters and no way to twink.
I hated twink invaders in das1 but I had a few twink characters that I would co-op on and this was impossible to do in das2 until they added the agape ring.
>>146808303
i don't know if i wanna see an ultra high def version of this thing or not
the original still creeps me the fuck out
>>146807442
anyone know? I want to test some things but don't want to get banned
>>146808397
I'd be in on that, around what level?
>>146808401
Any amount of leftover stamina with chloranthy+2 means you regenerate it extremely fast and efficient.
This is more than enough for aggressive carthus play.
>>146808578
If they're coming back I hope that this time around they'll give them a fitting voice.
>>146808578
>tfw you realize it's just an old Asian man's face with no lips and a tumor beside his nose
>>146807172
Anyone have the vod of this rage quit?
>>146808618
I'll be hosting at level 100, password /dsg/. I'll start up the game now, place signs on the ledge that leads to the Demon Ruins bonfire.
>>146808395
Linking the fire in the first game made it explode
Linking the fire in 3 just sets you on a slow burn
>>146808635
So what? The dumbass said you can do 4 and dodge with 10 end, I proved him wrong. What does your post add to this?
>>146806084
>hating on reactive play
aggressive play isn't as rewarding as it was in previous games due to the lack of poise and straight swords swinging extremely fast while doing the same damage as greatswords
>>146808601
50/50 chance of getting bunned
Make a dummy account
>>146808642
What was wrong with his voice? Not EDGY enough for you?
>>146808685
HOLY SHIT
>>146807212
There were some people claiming they were in ng+ and that soul level was working for match making
>>146808765
I did but the results were inconclusive
>>146808747
passive/reactive play is dull and that's why this game's pvp is dying. Long range fast weapons will always thrive in this environment and even if you nerf Pole damage by half it will still be oppressive as fuck.
>>146807749
???
You just lost 10% magic damage for spells and magic weapons. That's all
>>146808816
Imagine a huge fucking serpent
Now imagine what he would sound like if he could talk
Honestly, their voices are absolute trash.
Alright fully ready, PC fight club is on at Demon Ruins bonfire, place your sign up on the ledge upstairs from the bonfire for summons. Hosting at SL 100, password /dsg/ as usual.
>>146808535
I'm pretty sure SM was created in direct response to twinking in DS1. And in DS3, we have weapon upgrades on top of SL in response to twinking in DS1. So even if you do twink, it will only give you so much of an advantage and you'll have had to work harder to create a legit twink character.
I get they crippled a lot in DS2 due to SM which is why everyone hated it, it just seems weird to me people thought an entire mechanic would just disappear in NG+. I mean it would have been nice but I guess I have less faith in FROM to think ahead. It took them fucking forever just to get the ring that stopped soul gain.
>>146809129
When I think of a serpent I think of something that actually looks like a snake. What we actually got was an Asian man's face on a snake's body, so considering that his voice kinda fits.
>>146809129
>they didn't hiss enough for me
>>146807373
How is this possible? Holy shit.
>>146809178
dsg or /dsg/ ?
>>146809182
>weapon upgrades on top of SL
It's perfect actually.
>they make PERFECT twink fix for DS3
>lel let's ruin everything with password summons
F Team
>>146809178
>>146809372
Sorry, just 'dsg' without the / symbols as it usually is.
>>146807532
Fucking don't have a pc to do it but I can upload if you want to webm the clips for me
>>146809178
Uh, mind posting a screenshot of where you want the signs? I'm a bit unclear.
I'm honestly kind of amazed at how good this thing is as a sidearm for a pyromancer with dark infusion. I seem to catch people by surprise with how fast it swings quite a lot. The range is rubbish, but the speed and the quickstep more than makes up for it.
>>146809006
I'll just use 10% more skilled to make up for the lost damage.
>>146809550
go to the demon ruins bonfire and take the stairs up, you'll reach a ledge with a ramp leading downward. Place sign on that ledge
>>146809427
DS2 kind of had password summons with the one ring, so they may as well stream line it for idiots.
It's honestly nicer than waiting around for my retard host to summon a second phantom when they keep BCing out because they're too stupid to get the ring or hide the sign properly. I've even had people request dedicated help from me in DS3 that refuse to place a password and instead demand I put my sign down and BC out just like the "good old days".
>>146809706
Not getting summoned, boss. Do you have cross-region play enabled?
>>146809595
>forgot to post the image
I'm not retarded, honest.
Is this not the best ring for fucking with hosts?
>>146809706
that doesn't look like a screenshot to me.
>>146809351
Cheating or over-leveling like crazy most likely.
>>146809778
It's fun as a host or phantom too.
>>146807924
>>146807757
>not just rolling or in many cases just walking to side to dodge all the pew pews
What sort of fresh meme is this?
Also I simply avoid summoning literally every person wearing a dusk crown in their portrait. Not that I can't beat you, don't get me wrong. You're all incredibly easy to beat. It's just that it's really fucking annoying and boring when all you do is run away and cast blue balls and blue erection at me, maybe at some point realizing magic sucks and spamming R1 with some sort of fast sword or god forbid the shitty "hey I know magic sucks so I'm just gonna use spells that are actually just shitty melee weapons!" spells.
It's just a really annoying playstyle because you usually have low health and take a million damage from getting hit by anything good, so you just run away, run away, run away, cast some pew pew shit when you're far enough way, run away, run away. Literally the lamest of all playstyles.
>>146809550
Can't make a screenie currently but >>146809706
here is where.
>>146809605
>casting CSS while being oom
YARE YARE that's not enough mlg
>>146809776
Thrall Axe is the best
>>146809778
What's it called?
>>146809427
You know they summons get heavily scaled down, right?
>>146809925
Obscuring Ring. 10 tongues to cumhair lady.
>>146809925
Obscuring ring
Get it after getting 10 tongues
>>146810034
Oh, that. It's ok I guess. It doesn't really do much and I can't think of many uses for it, but it's ok.
>>146809956
Not really. They retain their stamina, their equipload, their FP. It's not a very good system.
>>146809870
What if someone asking you for duel with steam right now?
>inb4: backpedalling
>reactive play/havelstoc tryhard
>>146807757
What
>>146810125
Invaders use it for sniping, fucking with people, or so they can run off and recover from a bad situation. The ones who have it are a lot more annoying to fight.
>>146809870
>you usually have low health
yawn
I'm impressed with the dual fights people had going on without any spurring of my own, good initiative lads.
POISON IS VIABLE
>>146810394
haven't encountered anyone using it
which I'm glad, it gives me flashbacks of those poison spitting asshole statues
>>146810394
maybe in Dark Souls IV
what's the most tryhard invasion build to make people mad?
>>146807373
>Flynn's
>greatshield
>>146810394
no, it's really not
completely ignorable damage
>>146810394
timetraveler, please
>>146809776
It has great chaos and dark infusions, same added fire/dark damage as lot of weapons with higher base AR.
>>146810537
Get creative, nerd.
Poison someone, then whip out a fast weapon and fuck them up.
>>146810537
>proc poison on someone
>they swap to sun princess and offhand blessed
>poison is now completely overwritten by regen
>most weapons in the game can't combo R2->R2
>most followup R2s are worthless as rollcatches
>most followup R2s are too slow to even use in pve
Why do most weapons even have a second R2? They serve no purpose
>>146809921
There are also few things that are more satisfying than killing a huge boss with a critical attack from a dinky little hand axe.
>>146810523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n09xmhsvIuU
>>146810868
>Why do most weapons even have a second R2? They serve no purpose
this is true for all souls games with the exception of bloodborne
>>146810868
Did they ever before anyway?
>>146810924
you don't have the damage to kill people with that though
>>146810373
Is it possible to do this build at sl 80 or sl 100?
I think 100 would be better than sl 80 if it wasn't in range of sl 120
>>146811015
You can cause a good amount of damage. Eventually the host will run out of estus, and if you're good you'll take hardly any damage.
Once again, PC fightclub going on at Demon Ruins bonfire, now with pic attached to show where I'd like summons where I'm at. Hosting at SL 100, password just dsg.
>>146810868
Cathedral Greatsword can R1->R2 combo, and I think some great hammer/maces can.
>>146811042
>Is it possible to do this build at sl 80 or sl 100?
nope unless you want to seriously gimp it in some way
>co-oping as a hypermage
>use power within until RTSR range
>use it while in RTSR range for shitloads of damage on 1 or 2 CSSes/GHSAs
>rack up 117% bonus damage
feels good dealing 1000 damage on a CSS, though I wish I could go higher.
>>146811138
omw
>>146811009
In DaS2, 90% could combo R2s
MISCHIEF
so I have come to the conclusion that reaching the maximum possible SL is effectively impossible legitimately. I've used thousands of souls of a great champion for the last 2 hours and still am only around level 500.
Ley if you could not run off to the point where I can barely see you I would appreciate that.
>>146810180
I play with shield/spears and bloodring/gotthards, you probably wouldn't like me very much.
Not that I have anything to prove, even if for the sake of argument I lost it wouldn't disprove my point at all. Never really got that "lul duel me then nerd" argument, even in the best case scenario for you which is you beating me, that still doesn't change the fact that it's a very boring and annoying playstyle that goes exactly as I described.
And for the record I'd likely win, which again has no bearing on the actual argument that magic users are annoying as fuck. It'd mostly involve a lot of rolling around and strafing, which you'd probably get mad at as "reactive play" or something because yeah obviously I'm not just going to run head first into your blue ball spear bullshit.
I was actually nice enough to explain my argument so if you want to actually present a counter argument that'd be fine, "fite me fegit" isn't a counterpoint though. It'd have to be something along the lines of "magic users don't just run away and pew pew all day and occasionally double back with R1 spam in some form when people get frustrated with their bullshit because..."
>>146811138
Friendly reminder the entire fucking lake is an open area. There's no reason to only have 1 set of fights going on at a time, we have plenty of space.
>>146810868
Because if I miss my first r2 I get a second chance to r2 you while you try to get through my defenses
>>146811672
>I play with shield/spears and bloodring/gotthards
>thinks he is allowed to call magic users annoying
>>146810868
some of the UGS ones are okay, mostly for pve to pancake enemies
Bomarrash is anything going on on your end? I keep getting timed out messages when I'm summoning you.
>>146811741
The reason is to see the fight better silly.
>>146811482
poison tactics
>>146811151
But isn't it already gimped compared to a sl 150 version of this build?
Does anyone on ps4 happen to have a spare moonlight greatsword? I don't have anywhere to summon without going into ng+ which i'm trying to avoid for right now.
>>146811976
just do it mang, and rush dancer -> Oceiros.
How do you git gud at whips in this game?
>>146811920
Good enough, if you could though don't go by the trees so much next time, I just like to see the fights and it was kinda hard there.
Also oh god By My Sword with a crossbow is hilarious and I can't believe I just found out how it looked.
>>146812051
fine fine i'll do it. i just needed a push
>>146811929
SL120-125 can interact with far greater amount of players while having all the most necessary stats softcapped.
At sl100 or abominable 80 you will get your ass handed to you even by simple 27/40 meanwhile at 120 range even they have to play against a tinder mage very carefully.
>>146812067
>Witch's Locks
>Min. requirements str/dex
>40/40 int/fai
>WA
>Win
>>146811812
I actually attack people, I don't backpedal forever while casting spells and hoping they hit, and hoping *i* don't get hit while someone chases me around the arena for 10 minutes. That's the difference. On the other hand I'll play against any melee weapon no problem.
Same reason why I generally don't fight against estoc turtles either. Magic users are basically the long range equivalent of estoc turtles, in this sense.
>>146812108
fair enough
>>146812161
sometimes it's hard to tell if a post is trying to become a copypasta or if the person is autistic
*unsheathes gargoyle flame spear and black knight shield*
>>146812148
>have to play against a tinder mage very carefully.
lmao, tinder is so slow it's actually pitiful. Also split damage is terrible, I can just trade my roll L1 with gotthards for 500 damage against your 400 damage combo and I'll win in the end
>>146811672
Shut up and fight nerd
Uh, okay. So, why are there so many fucking bloodstains in the beginning of the game? Are people just really this bad, are they aggro'ing high-level NPC's, or is there some kind of surprise boss that I'm not aware of? After they drop the Asylum Demon on players in the tutorial for DS1, I'm paranoid about what's coming up.
>>146812429
Why that spear and not Long Spear or Pike?
>>146812473
a single hit of tinder does 300-350 damage
on top of that it's a long as fuck glaive that deals chip damage through shields and can shoot farron darts at any second
so be my guest and trade with it fuckface, see how it's gonna work for you
>>146812571
I forgot how ugly this game is.
Also depending on the area it's because they tried to kill an NPC and got rekt. In the forest area with the creek bonfire where you head to the first giant boss it's just because they suck.
>>146812610
Il trade into your Boi pussy anytime
>>146812597
because it's literally the best spear in the game
>>146812571
It's near an NPC that drops the Bluemoon Greatsword, a fake Moonlight Greatsword if you murderize him
Maybe they wanted it and got rekt
>>146812610
>552 split AR
>300 damage
sure it does lmao.
>>146812807
Wouldn't it figuratively be shittier than the Long Spear due to >split damageNot that I don't mind it being the best spear, I love the way it looks and the WA owns
>>146812843
It does indeed.
400 versus prisoner's chain/clutch rings.
