>Official Stuff
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>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us
>The Oversheet
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>/owg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1uOqymySz22QFhC6S19HPb8WKJBDNd3ILj679bW2Sk
>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki
>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f
>/owg/ Survery
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1n4-Xcs6_u2-uPPNrSUYiyKhE1_xFxrt1NsgbsrSOw6w/viewform
>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/416mmBkq
>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
>Porn archive
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0ByzmhGDY8u8MUWFTalAyVDBRTU0&export=download
>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0
Previous thread: >>146057565
Is there a list anywhere of places that you can see through on low graphical settings that you can't on higher ones? I know about those trees in Hollywood but i was wondering if there were more.
Why do I keep playing this shit game? Games are virtually always complete stomps and therefore 0 fun unless you happen to be put in on the winning team.
Glad I didn't pay much for this game or I would seriously regret it.
First for MADA MADA
>>146064731
Here you go, familia. Her name is XXJACKIEXX
She plays with her small-time streamer friend pretty often.
Skip to 21:50:00 on this stream
twitch tv/itswoofy/v/73275165
You can hear her talk in the background.
where my cuties at?
DEAD GENERAL
BUY BATTLEBORN NOW
Is Reaper officially the least fun class to play against?
Also attracts edgy teenagers who main spy in TF2 for added annoyance.
>When you beat the enemy team so bad they switch to 6 dwarfs. And you still win.
>>146065271
Kek'd
>want to play symmetra
>if I do and the enemy picks up winston I'm literally useless
fun game :)
>>146065504
>tfw get three quad kills with my ult by jumping off the same ledge
>enemies become paranoid
>start watching it whenever they think I have my ult
>teleport to the same ledge and show myself a bit
>teleport again
>jump from another ledge and get another quad kill
psst....nothin personnel....kid
>>146065430
go back to /lgbt/ you useless fag
>get two separate quadruple kills as Mei
>POTG is Bastion sitting in one spot and getting one normal kill and a shutdown kill
T-thanks
>>146065472SEE YOU IN JUNE :-)
King's Row is the worst map in Overwatch by far.
How is it possible to design a map this bad?
mei is fat
faaaaaaaaaaaat
>>146062182
Nth for impossible achievements.
Post what you've purchased with the game's currency because fuck waiting for RNG
OP, you have to start posting the new thread in the old one. Otherwise nobody will know it exists.
Why the fuck can I never connect to a match that has decent ping anymore.
Every single god damn match lags and I can't have fun with friends anymore.
Worked fine at the beginning and now it's just unplayable
REEEEEEEEEE
>>146065430
I know you want Mercy healslut players for ebin sissy erp but when you use Mercy images with these posts I like to imagine a Mercy dominatrix who wants to enslave cute boys. Much better imo. Anyway, don't you have enough heal sluts at this point?
short haired girls are best girls
>>146065679
Even the game hates mei.
The breasts are worth fighting for!
This ranking isnt working well i see
>>146065504
>reaper being a threat
Hahahaha how is reaper real threat, just stay out of his range and press E+right click as mcree hahaha
For real, reaper is shit unless you're deaf and cant hear his tank rolling footsteps or "DEATH CUMS", get good.
>>146065648
>ghost
Nice.
THIS IS MY ICON. THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT, BUT THIS ONE IS MINEpost yours
>>146065719
Fat hands
>>146065715
god that one fucking chokepoint at the start
>>146065725
Pic related.
>>146065725
gonna buy m16 skins for 76 and maybe shark for hog
also swimsuit mei if it happens
>>146065725
Jackal skin
Winston's peanutbutter emote and line
"Violence is usually the answer"
That's it.
though if I get back to 2000 I'll probably get Roadhog's Mako skin
>>146065667
Nobody said anything about gays but you
>>146065715
That's not Dorado.
>>146065819
Been using it since day 1 of the PSN, famalam
>>146065724
The fuck is this? You have to blow them up with the airbag into the trap for achievement?
>don't want to go all crazy in Overwatch today
>play as Mercy because why the fuck not
>flying around like a goddess healing and resurrecting
>teammates voice out their thanks to me
>get 6 head pats
>3 victories in a row
Holy shit now i know why people main Mercy.
I would also like to point out that if your teammates are a bit shitty, having a good support makes a huge difference.
I want a trap character in OW
>>146065725
>>146065949
my man have you tried junkrat?
>>146065725
I bought Lionhardt, Mariachi, Mako, and Deadlock.
r8 my Genji
>>146065925
Yes.
They have to land in the trap.
>>146065939
Well hello there
Reminder if your highlights don't consist of Reinhardt only you are a faggot.
>>146065798
>Heal mistress
Oh boy, its like KFG all over again!
>>146066010
>27%
>Average 12 assists per match
Shit.
>>146066005
this isn't what I meant with 'trap-character'
>>146065725
Mei's Firefigther, it dropped 2 lootboxes later
>>146066068
fuck off faggot
>>146066068
fuck off faggot
>>146065852
Use the house next to the bus, use flanking route to the right.
>>146066068
fuck off faggot
>>146066068
>ywn have a cute trap to play Mercy for you
It hurts, friends
>>146066068
Fuck off, faggot
>>146065724
Moments like these are probably the only reason I am not that upset I have to keep spamming Junkrat in games for achievements though.
>>146066068
fuck off faggot
>>146066014
That's impossible to pull off in a real game, wtf? Besides you can't throw the trap as far as the airbag, maybe it would be possible if they had the same weight arc.
>>146066068
fuck_me, faggot
>>146066060
>playing m2 bot ever
rifk
>>146065724
>tfw you randomly got that during a round
>>146066060
>Reinhardt
>on Ilios
how do you not get bumped into the well all the time by pharahs
>>146066183
It's one of those you only get with luck.
>>146066176
that gorilla fist at the end
>>146066183
One day, Anon...one day...
>>146066290I'm the one who pushes everyone to the hole
>>146066297
>>146066183
>>146065724
thats nothing compared to lucios get 3 killing blows while riding the wall
>>146066068
Faggot, fuck off
>>146066379
Honestly, I think bouncing people off the edge while wall riding is probably easier.
>>146066068
Off, faggot fuck.
Why is it also the Hanzo's, /owg/?
>TRIGGERED
>>146062182
>join matches during the ddos
>I got booted from 3 games
>start up today
>"if you leave a match, you will be penalized"
really blizztards?
>>146065724
Those were actually hard?
https://error.s-ul.eu/9ujtAJwk.webm
I actually got that on my first game, webm not related
Holy shit, I wonder what this could be.
>Swimming in gold medals as Junkrat on Dorado defense
>No healers
>Ask if we can get a healer
>Nothing
>Someone switches to a second Junkrat
>Ask again
>We're losing hard
>Final push
>Someone switches to a third Junkrat
>Call them out on this shit
>"Take your tryhard shit to competitive lol"
>Next match I'm on the other team on WP-G Attack
>Fucking stomp them hard
>The little shittalker started as one of two widows then switched to one of 2 bastions
>Entire team is giving him shit now.
Feels fucking good mate. You can suck a dick Nate if you're here, Your loss got me rock hard.
LEAKED
D.Va's summer outfit drop
Would you guys say that Phara's mom is/was older than Mercy?
>>146066514
I can feel that industrial.
>>146065802
Post Genjis
>>146066395
>>146066178
>>146066164
>>146066145
>>146066124
>>146066094
>>146066472
I guess
>>146066487I was making a jokedon't you guys ever have fun?
>>146066514
Damn, it's fucking nothing.
>>146066546
Cat lingerie is old news.
>play Mercy
>team always too retarded to protect me
>half of the match i have to take my pistol and defend myself
JUST GIVE US RANKED MODE. I CAN'T STAND PLAYING WITH THESE CASUALS
>tfw an anon on /owg/ called my hands weird
>>146066513
>I actually got that on my first game, webm not related
I wish I was playing against newbies again too. At least they run in straight lines and can't see the bear trap clipping through the concrete.
>>146066557
Considering Ana was already an accomplished soldier 30 years before the game takes place while Mercy was 7 years old at the time I'm going to take a guess and say yes.
>>146066625
>Lingerie
What
>>146066475
I honestly don't know. Hanzo's character design isn't that interesting compared to other characters and you'd think most retards and kids would rather go Genji or something rather than the bow dude.
>>146066546
I leaked
>>146066557
pharah is 32. mercy is 37.
>Load into game
>Load onto the losing team
>See the attacking team
Why blizzard, do you really hate me?
why the fuck is this allowed, the level 9 isn't even in my fucking party
>>146066557
Mercy is 5 years older than Pharah.
What do you think?
>>146066654
The cat-outfit/lingerie she's wearing, like the Hestia-ribbon, it's an old fad now.
>>146066625
I like that DVA skin, personally. That 76 is straight trash, though. The one with the mustache is the best.
>>146066487
Your fault for aiming for the head :^)
>>146066642
>Nobody has scanned the art book
>>146066726
Learn what lingerie is you fucking virgin
>>146066638
>the bear trap clipping through the concrete.
Is it actually meant to do that?
>>146066557
Pharah can't you see you're just not the girl for me.
I know it might be wrong but my waifu is Pharah's mom.
>>146066714
maybe the level 9 was an FPS god, i know when i first started playing i was matched against all high level homos after playing my first 2 games
t. ex-quake pro
>>146066657
You have to remember that LoLbabbies think ranged heroes are the hardest carries and that melee heroes are shit thanks to Riot's balancing.
>>146066642
>>146066697
But didn't Ana and Mercy worked together in the original Overwatch? There's no way Mercy is close to Pharah's Age
>Lose a match
>About to win the second one
>Get D/C'd
>Pick play
>It's tower
Fuck this gay game
>>146066697
does that mean that Amari left her baby at home to snipe at robots?
sounds better than changing diapers
>>146066714
The game matches two groups that consists of 4 and just matches whoever with the remaining 2 slots per team.
At least that what i noticed.
>have an empty headed blonde ditz Mercy head cannon
>she's a doctor that invented revival tech so no one shares this with me
Suffering
>>146066621
not when it comes to faggots like you fucking off.
>>146066780
Ana joined Overwatch during the First Omnic Crisis with Reinhardt, Reaper, Torbjorn, and S76. Mercy joined long after.
>>146066795
going on pharah's insinuations she was a terrible mother
>>146066780
Overwatch existed for 25 years, m8. It's just that Mercy wasn't a founding member while Ana was.
Mercy buffs when
Literally the lowest winrate in the game, totally useless outside of organized teams.
>>146065271
>d.va player named meowzers
BATTLETAG?????
>>146066714
Bet he carries the game
Soldier is unstoppable in the hands anyone who can aim
>>146066723
well this >>146066780
>>146066780
That's assuming Mercy was a founding member which she's not.
They "worked together" for some time before Overwatch died, doesn't say they were working together for 30 years.
>>146066753
It's a bra and panties, how are those not lingerie?
>>146065814
>Indian math savant
>black DJ
>Korean gamer
>"hey let's give the Chinese chick huge tits, we're so progressive and mold-breaking"
>>146065724
>>146066281
>>146066657
I guess it's because Genji is 'harder' to play. You can't just spam shurikens and get headshots, like you can with Hanzo's bow.
How does Dhalsim's ultimate work? I thought it blocked all damage but I just got killed by a riptire in it
>>146066908
>Swim suits are lingerie
>>146066909
Why doesn't Lucio have a ridiculous Brazilian accent
>>146066892
Ready this, familia
>>146066849
Overwatch was founded during the First Omnic Crisis. That's when Ana, Reyes, Morrison, Reinhardt, and Torbjorn joined. Overwatch was still around for several decades after that. Mercy joined after the crisis.
>>146066931
>146066931
zenyatta? it gives 100hp/sec. you can still be one shot.
Place the bets
>>146066909
fatter women have bigger tits. mei is very fat
>>146066909
well, China is pretty big compared to the other countries
of course Russia has the most mass too
>>146066931
Only makes Zenyatta invulnerable while it does a bunch of healing to people in it's area. Things like Deadeye can still instantly kill you if you're standing in Zen's ult.
Why is mercy so badly designed gameplay wise, you can ressurect 4 players but its pointless because they just die immediately again without reaper even pressing Q.
You have no impact on the game when your team is just bad, why are supports in the game?
>>146065725
Just this so far because I love that weapon skin
>>146066995
>>146067043
Ah, gotcha
>>146067005
2 sprays, 1 icon, 1 skin. 1 dupe.
>>146067005
3 gray and a blue
may or may not contain dupes
>>146065814
She looks like she'd be so nice to cuddle with.
I wish we could snuggle up together on a cold night.god I just want to know what human contact feels like I want to die
Mei players
>>146067005
3 whites 1 blue
>>146066976
There's a good few places in Brazil that are largely white and speak English.
A friend of mine moved to Brasilia for a few years of high school and she got along fine speaking zero Portuguese.
>>146066638
I was like level 5 and the people around my match were 20-50+ I didn't even know it didn't matter at all though I did get the game like 7 days after
https://error.s-ul.eu/gNRHyt3a.webm also random webm laying around
>>146066905
>>146066985
Still, numbers doesn't match in my book, either Mercy was like, 15 when she joined Overwatch or the Lore wasn't really too much thought
>>146067005
>>146067005
grey, grey, blue, grey
I bet those loot-boxes are actually rigged
>>146066931
only zenyatta is immune to damage everyone just gets healed
>get play of the game as D.va
>"wut"
>it's me spamming her pistol and killing one guy
>3 blood drop
What? How are these even determined? Well, I got to see a highlight intro I unlocked for her so that's okay I guess
>>146066817
kys
>>146067091
they still have accents though, right?
>>146067073
Why would you assault my eyes with this absolute filth you son of a basterd bitch
I have to wait till Wednesday to buy this video game. Bored
>>146067073
76 needs 300 hp
How does play of the game work? Is there like a server based DVR? Does any other game have something like this?
>>146067124
What "numbers" and how deep into your anus did you have to reach to get then?
>McCree
>>146067114
WOW, AMAZING BASTION PLAY THERE
>>146067091
Favelas in Rio aren't one if those, Lúcio doesn't feel Brazilian at all.
t. someone from Rio
>>146066976
How does a Brazilian accent sound like?
>>146067229
he's got 400
>>146067247
wow, rude
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place, andOUR WORLD IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR." I agree with the second part.
>>146067024
Anonymous, I have to say that I really, really like your post. You just earned yourself a new subscriber, friend.
>>146067124
Don't think too much about it.
>"Other than really broad things like the Omnic Crisis and big historical moments, in many ways, we're kind of making this up as we go," said Metzen, explaining that they haven't built out every little detail beforehand.
>>146065814
>Lone survivor of an artic expedition
>was frozen in ice
>survived it all this time
Mei is literally john carpenters The Thing.
This is what youre fighting for.
>playing zen with symmetra
>some other guy on my team switches to toblerone later
>suddenly feel absolutely immortal for the rest of the game
>>146067258
>Bought McCree's yellow vigilante skin
>Use his roll more for the mobility instead of the reload
I love this character and I'm sorry for my team because either I'm top elims damage or I'm getting sniped
Things you are no longer allowed to post
Hurr play of the game was wrong
X is op
X is up
Muh rng box
Every thread is the same shit
>>146067065
>>146067068
>>146067078
>>146067126
I've played warframe for 3 years so I can handle shitty rng.
>kill a tracer and reaper as fucking d.va
>team cant push
noose.jpg
>>146067383
>That spray
EDGE
>deciding between getting a Zenyatta skin and a Symmetra one once I get to 1000
>This drops
Made my decision easier, even if it's not the one I would have bought.
>>146067239
Actually a good question. I guess the server would have to save everyones video for the match at least when they start killing. pretty impressive if you think about it.
>>146060715
How does anyone not do well with Roadhog, seriously, I don't understand the "useless" meme
If you git gud with hook it's basically a free kill every 6 seconds, his uptime is insane because of le skillfull 300 healing in one second, and his ult shits out 300 damage per second and the knockback is a joke when you're clearing a point
Why the h8 for this m8?
>>146067359
>who's the protagonist of Fallout 4?
>>146067317
>we make shit up as we go
so that's why Blizzard is so shit with writing
>>146065725Mariachi ReaperI also bought the Executioner highlight intro
>forced 50 is a meme they said
Had 63% winning rate and the game keeps putting me in complete stomp games
>>146067371
You forgot me ooga, team booga
>>146067383
Shit, I was so close. No icon, but 1 dupe, 1 skin, 2 sprays.
>>146067359
>There will never be an infiltrating Thing character
uninstalling
>>146067436
which Zen skin did u want? I spent my credits on that one, no regrets, the best one imo.
>>146067441
>>146067239
>video
The server just saves a demo file and sends you chunks of it for kill cams and shit.
Saving video, haha that's rich.
>>146067371
>complaining about postquality on 4chan
newfriend detected
As Tracer, should I be constantly going after squishies or farm ult charge on tanks?
>>146067383
>I've played warframe for 3 years
I'm so sorrysorrysorry
>GREETINGS
>GDAY COBBA
>HI THERE
>HEY
>HELLO!
Why do so many people spam hello?
Is there anywhere I can see what skin looks like from first person?
I wanna know what I'm actually paying for
>>146067371
Junkrat is op
>>146067546
Not him, but Rather is the superior Zen skin. That one is p dope though
>>146066068
Away ye sodomite
>>146067512
>have a 58% winrate
>keep getting put into games where there's 1 minute until we lose
>the only way I can win these is if I go Lucio and contest like a madman, then I can switch to whoever I actually want to play
>>146067512
Does /owg/ still not get match making math? To even stay about 50% you'd have to always win at least 2 games for every loss forever which if you're being ranked against peers isn't happening. By stats you were placed with people of your peers. I'm sure the people you stomped to get about 50% average said the same.
>>146067546
It's a cool skin, but I like the Egyptian ones a bit more. I probably would have bought Sunyatta. I bought Architech Symmetra after that dropped.
>>146066202
What did he mean by this?
>Play a great Junkrat with 50% kill participation and 23 kills
>Get put up
>Torb gets EHPIC! for 15 turret kills
>Play Lucio
>Get put up for healing
>Mediocre McCree gets all the accolades
>Carry team single handedly as Torb on that KOTH mummy map
>Get put up for damage.
>NO ACCOLADES
HOLY SHIT why do I try and get gold medals in half the categories if everyone just picks always NOT me. It doesn't matter who I'm playing, since some other player will ALWAYS get it.
Like everyone is getting repelled from voting from me or something.
This game is making me salty as fucking hell. I didn't think anyone could be this bad. I'm tanking Bastion and our team is dicking around behind me, eventually my shield breaks, 3 guys die, and THEN someone's like "There's Bastion! Get him!"
>>146067583
Hello!
>>146067587
>>146067581
>I'm so sorry
>
>sorry
>
>sorry
wall replaced by frost megabubbles when
>>146067565
squishes. most tanks have armour so you're not really doing anything but tickling them anyway.
>>146067587
this desu, most weapons change colors/models and that's the part that you see most of the time, they should prioritize a first person skin viewer
>>146065134
Waifus
I want to make love to Mei.
>>146067631
>Win 2 games for every loss to maintain 50% winrate
>accuses others of being bad at match
>>146067716
go to craigslist, i'm sure you can find a fat slope ezpz
>>146065134
Because the feeling you get from a good game is stronger than the feeling you get from several bad games.
>>146067587
>>146067702
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4ofwe3/a_complete_collection_of_the_firstperson_views_of/
>>146067631
>Maintain 50%, assuming you are 50%, win 2 for 1 loss.
>2:1 ratio
>Maintain 50%
???
>>146067805
Based anon
If it exists, tumblr has claimed it's racist.
>>146067764
They won't be as smart and cute.
I also want to marry her.
>Make an amazing play that scores a team kill
>Play of the game goes to Bastion
>Play like shit
>Play of the game goes to me clumsily killing 2-3 random people
Why does this keep happening?
>>146067581
Warframe was good in it's beginnings, then it went full retard with RNG and trying to jew people as much as possible. Kinda sad considering I was apart of the initial beta.
>>146067716
>buy beanbag
>put fleshlight in it
>instant Mei
>???
>kill yourself
it makes me sad that my mmr is high enough that this gets instantly destroyed every time. it was fun while it lasted.
>>146067683
Junkrat bombs replaced with tesla balls and Bastille riptire explosions
What's your worst skin drop? Pic related.
>>146067663
i think you should take that quite literally
>>146067859
yeah but mei is a video game character, finding a fat slant on craigslist for you to marry and bone is within your reach anon
>>146067848
>>146067743
>2 out of 3 is 50%
I believe you're confusing ratios for win percentages
>>146065725
>Okami Skin
>SAKE voice line
>Muda Muda voice line
>Genji Highlight Intro (Sheathing Sword)
Debating on whether to buy Djinnyatta skin atm
>>146067852
Can't wait till they say Blizzard made Reaper the one to go bad because he's a minority
>finally manage to get 50% winrate
>suddenly only lose games
I really should stop caring about winrate, that don't do me no good.
>>146067909
Cybergoth.
>>146067909
I dropped that one too. It's cool, but I don't really play Bastoon
>>146067906
RHINO
WHEN
How am i doin guys?
Also where is all the cute grandpa rein comics/fanart
>>146067909
Industrial. I also have wood bastion, but I kinda like it.
>>146067919
I mean
The guy he was responding to didn't say anything
So I'll call dibs here
>>146067943
weebs lmao
>>146067980
Do you never get the urge to see what any of the other characters are like?
>>146067565
Why not both?
>>146066909
Is chinese women having huge mammies some stereotype or something? What triggered you friend, let us help you
>>146067852
I'm surprised they haven't thrown a fit about the native American skin for Pharrah
Wasn't the slogan "it's a culture not a costume"
>>146067359
>Mei is The Thing
>Reaper and Soldier are Solid and Liquid
>McCree is Clint Eastwood/generic gunslinging cowboy
>Junkrat is Mad Max Demoman
>Roadhog is Mad Max Pudge
What else we have?
Be sure to make your PC gets good airflow and stays dust free to survive the summer heat
We're all calvary now that death walks among us protecting the innocent and doing justice which does not dispense itself.
>>146067980
Teach me your secrets on how to git gud with Reinhardt
>>146068024
Well, can't do both at the same time can I? Just wondering which one I should have as a priority. Enemy Tracers seem to get their ults twice as fast as I do sometimes.
Blog time
>have a win streak and feel a forced 50 game about to hit
>load into Gibraltar with 1 minute left on attack just after first checkpoint
>3 hanzos a junk and a mei
>godfuckingdammit
>make myself useful and pick lucibro
>team starts fucking shit up left and right and I'm juking all over the shop
>blow through the next two checkpoints and the other team starts rage quitting
>win pretty handily, whole team is pissing themselves
Moments like this make the game for me.
i want an overwatch bf that likes anime to play with
>>146067953
That's what the post is about, it was just too long for one screenshot.
I don't understand how snipers make fpses more fun.
>>146067909
god that skin is bad, almost looks like something straight outta battleborn
>Listening to voice lines
>Symmetra
>"I will put you in your place."
>"Why do you struggle?"
>Symmetra will never dominate you with hard-light bondage
>>146067980
How many Mercies have you fucked?
>>146068114
they don't
>>146067932
It took me such a long time to understand, but I think I got what you said.
You meant, at that guy's 63% current win ratio, not at a 50% current ratio, is that right?
I need to know.
>>146068129
>Symmetra is actually into bondage
she likes control, order and cleanliness,
this doesn't surprise me at all
>>146068062
aaaaaaa
AAAAAAAAAAAA
SOMEONE DELETE MY EYES SHIT
>>146068104
Oh jesus fucking christ
>>146068129
>Welcome to my reality
>>146067779
Disagree
Winning a game is moderately fun, losing 5 games in a row makes me want to uninstall the game
>>146067909
Vishkar
>>146068114
they don't
>>146067953
>>146068104
Well not exactly, it's some bullshit theory about how soldier got promoted because he was white or something. These people will literally bitch at everything.
>>146068062
Why is diaper fetish a thing
Seriously some one tell me, what's the appeal