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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/22385/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>CURRENT TOURNAMENT : ESL ONE FRANKFURT 2016
Preview: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/510336-esl-one-frankfurt-2016-preview
Stream: https://www.twitch tv/esl_dota2
Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/ESL_One/Frankfurt/2016
Dotabuff: http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/4554
VODS: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhCH_nPE4JTozqQqM66hlKUVEn-_ek9bI

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
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FOR FREE
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GRATIS
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ayy
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FREE SERVICE
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FREEEEEEEEE
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Autistic redditshitter BTFO
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janitor here sorry for misclick
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>he does it for FREE
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J U S T
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE JANITOR

HOW CAN WE EVER REPAY YOUR EFFORTS?
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christ how do you care enough about this site
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Epic.
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>DEGENERATES BTFO
based janitor
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https://www.4chan.org/feedback

https://www.4chan.org/feedback

https://www.4chan.org/feedback

https://www.4chan.org/feedback

REMEMBER TO POST YOUR FEEDBACK ON /vg/ JANITORS HERE
DO NOT FUCKING LET THEM SHIT UP OUR GENERAL FOR NO REASON AT ALL, SPEAK UP AND GET YOURSELF HEARD.
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WHEN HAVE THEY EVER DELETED VG THREADS?

THIS NEW JANITORS ARE FUCKING SHIT
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THANK YOU JANITOR FOR BEING SUCH A KEK
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we did it 4chan
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why mod delete that thread for no reason?
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>Gook moot in charge of janitors
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>>145953903
>HAHA LMAO ITS JUST A SHITPOST WHO CARES XD
Back to rebbit faggot
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pruned what the fuck
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come on guys, who the fuck gives a shit.

we have a new thread here, now leave the janitor alone and focus on the game.
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>>145953932
pretty rude desu

>>145953936
there was this one time like 2 weeks ago when a janitor deleted like 3 threads becaues they were made early
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Does PA dagger heal from vlads or octarine?
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>deleting the active thread

GRATUIT
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>>145953960
It had retarded shit in the OP
Like reddit links, a steam profile and suicide stuff
It should've been deleted before people started using it, but it's still nice to see jannies doing good.
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I still won though.
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MIND

CONTROLLED
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FUCK YOU JANY YOU FUCKING KUCK
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>>145953932
The OP of the thread that was deleted is a known threadwars shitter.

Kill yourself faggot
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>>145953989
Hi Janitor, thanks for doing it FOR FREE you fucking cuck
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TELL ME ABOUT THE JANITOR

HOW MUCH COMPENSATION DOES HE REQUIRE?
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>>145953984
no one reads the OP why make it hard
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>>145954009
It was the same autist back then making reddit threads, all of those were deleted
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>>145954073
4 U
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>>145954081
nah actually i was pretty fucking tired of that guy so i made a proper OP myself and it still got deleted
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M I N D C O N T R O L
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>>145954129
Man Aggressif really let himself go...
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>>145953984
this is literally the reason people hate reddit.
>come to 4chan and just act as autistic as possible because lol no downvotes
>save all valuable input and discussion for ebin upboats
Fuck reddit.
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It was nice while it lasted you guys :^)
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>>145954198
Thank god.
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>>145954198
>reddit
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LMAO DAT BACKDOOR
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>>145954198

>this pasta from the former hearthstone spammer

Only aussies can be this autistic.
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>Miracle's farm

Lmao he clearly doesn't know how to play Lycan but OG picked it anyway.

They seriously don't care about this tournament.
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>>145954316
>>They seriously don't care about this tournament.
still winning :^)
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>2lans try to carry
>le 9k mmr man just feeds and dosnt even hit creeps
every time
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>>145954198
hey mate =)
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Did Fly put money on OG losing 0-2 or some shit?
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Since it's on topic, I'll post the filter list I've been maintaining for a while.
Use it if you feel like it. The "discord" filter sometimes hides legitimate discussion about Veil, but I think it does more good than bad.
http://pastebin.com/JD15mqnw
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>Fata keeping 4 people away.
Bristle nice hero.
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When miracle is playing garbage and its up to BigShitty, he fails literally EVERY time.
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>>145954440
>og not capable of ignoring bristle like CDEC demonstrated back at TI

faggots
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>>145954440
>bish
>bash
>bosh
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>>145954473
>have venge with forcestaff
>don't just swap bristle onto a cliff every fight
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>>145954375
No

its more the fact liquid shu down miracle and OG doesnt have supports that can make up for it

This game is on n0tail and he keeps fucking up
>Jump alone vs 5
>Omnislash ghost sceptered lion that also has forcestaff
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Is Beastmaster Lycan the new Drew Viasge
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>>145954526
>Miracle is shit and useless whole game
>ITS DA NODAIL FAULT!
Also he just single-handedly won them that game.
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That roar on MC actually won the game
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WOW
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>play like shit
>enemy fucks up one fight
>xd easy throne
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lmao, what a shitty game from both sides

In the end OG won because lmao push
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>>145953619
you were saying?
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>>145954409
>>/reddit/
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>>145954606

Fata sat at a t2 enemy tower hitting it with no team around, then walked all the way back with no bots and died again.

Only meme is bad playing.
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>lost 1 fight, lost 2 rax
>lost 2 fight, lost throne
nice
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NOLANS GETTING CARRIED AGAIN AFTER PLAYING LIKE SHIT

HE CNAT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>145954603
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>>145954526
????????
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>>145954595
im not saying miracle didn't do like shit

im just saying the only reason they werent winning the fights is n0tial dying at the beginning or doing retarded shit
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Apologize.
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>>145954662

N I N E
T H O U S A N D
M A T C H M A K I N G
P O I N T S
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What is the purpose of this skill?
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>>145953984
who dat
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>>145954198
Cya in a year, when everyone will get bored of the stale cancerous dual healer meta. Blizzard is going to have to dump A LOT of cash to keep this turd alive.
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>>145954703
The only reason they won that game was notail playing good while miracle played like pub trash.
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>>145954659
its almost like OG drafted push heavy so they could do exactly that
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>>145954732
good phase shift
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>>145954732
It's a shitty Phase Shift
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>>145954732
it's rikis "oh shit" button
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>>145954763
dotards?
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>>145954732
indifferent phase shift
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good job valve
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>>145954663
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Liquid is dead. Long live Liquid.
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>>145954732
5 second disruption and decent damage. Synergizes nicely with other team fight ults and low cool down and mana cost means it's spammable. It's not the strongest ult in the game but it serves quiet well as a utility skill.
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>esl dota in one screen
>dreamhack tf2 in the other
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When has he ever been good past early game?

Hes picked constantly, does amazing early game, then he falls off like a rock come mid-late game.
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>>145954849
>Competitive tf2
ayyyyyyyyy
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>>145954732

bad Omnislash

it's a "guys remember when riki was played like a carry" relic
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>Nahaz
kill me
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>>145954859
People spend too much time roaming. Then they realize they don't have Shuriken to deal damage without farm. And lose.
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to win best of 3

pick Terrorblade
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even nahaz's tie is obnoxious
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>>145954859
Smoke is still a top tier ability even in late game so it's not like he's ultra useless. The innate Invis is enough to make him super useful and honestly I think that dust needs to cost like, 100g. Shit is way too expensive.
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>>145954859
He still has the cloud which is a goodStaticStorm.
Other than that he's almost always picked with Lifestealer, and he's a good infest target.
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I think at this State Liquid cant defeat OG. I think after the TI when Liquid drops out already in the first round of the Loser Bracket they will kick Kuroky BECAUSE HIS DRAFT FUCKING SUCKS
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Hey guys! Some dota2showerthoughts here. Slarks keeps on saying "I haven't spawned yet". For fish, spawning is the act of depositing eggs or sperm. What if Slark is actually whining about dying a virgin. Slark's last thoughts upon death are about dying a virgin. Sort of explains why he has all those rapey lines.

What do you guys think?
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>>145954859
wtf are you smoking
riki has some fucking garbage early game
melee creeps have 20 base damage 550 hp, riki has 40 base damage 540 hp, he's the lowest stats of any melee hero, he's literally melee creep: the hero

riki scales mid/lategame when he gets his diffusal / blink / cleave and shits all over everyone, but his early game is fucking dog tier, even spectre is better
>m-m-muh invisi
rofl countered by 90-100 gold items
and once you dust riki, he's a 246 movespeed melee creep
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>>145954732
nonicefrog decided to add generic aoe ability to a hero that is focused on high single target damage.

Eventually all heroes are going to be, one disable one gap closer, one damage ability/spameable nuke and 1 aoe or single target ult
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>>145954815
what are you trying to say here?
or are you just mad you didn't get carried?
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Where were you when Liquid was kill?
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>>145954927
i remember that time he was wearing a paisley tie half as wide as himself i straight up stopped watching dota for 2 months after that
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>master tier lol player is 2.5k mmr in dota
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>>145954859
He really needs to be completely reworked because it just doesn't work. He's a shitty carry and a shitty roamer.
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>>145954989
thanks reddit spy but you have to go back
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>>145954859

Riki is a vehicle for Naix and literally nothing else.
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>>145955004
-t. 2k mmr riki main
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Based Liquid showing "weakness" on purpose. They know that this is a honeypot lan and don't want the biggest target on their backs for the upcoming TI
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Will Riki ever be a good core?
He's been shit for years and years and when he's finally good, he's good as a fucking support.
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>>145955027
former lol pro that got the highest rank was like 2.8 after calibrating

he mained broodmother and was autistic as fuck
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>>145955035
What? Says who
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>>145955073
1/10 made me reply
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how small is bamboe lmao

fucking manlets I swear
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>>145955004
What?

From watching pros play, he seems pretty good early game, not because of him personally, but his aid to team fights, ganks, and ward placements in enemy jungles.
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>>145954989
i think you're lost, you should go back to redd.it
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>>145955080
why does he have to be a good core ? are you that insecure that you only play core ? small dick problems maybe ?
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What if Riki's ult affected creeps?
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>>145955113
>former lol pro
TheRainMan was pro for like less than a year and he sucked, doesn't really count.
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>>145955080
he was amazing for like 2 weeks when his ult worked on creeps but reddit cant let him be good since i bet the 2k shitters kept losing to him in pubs so they changed it quickly
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stream muted
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Why are there so many reddicucks here?
Every single one complaining about the deleted thread is a butthurt redditor acting like he belongs here. No different from mudslimes entering EU.
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>>145955141

>up in the stands where no one is allowed

FLUFF HAS COME TO BRING VENGEANCE FROM ON HIGH
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>Drinking beer in a Twitch stream

what?

Hasn't Twitch banned people for this?
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>>145955156
icetoad tried that one before, nope
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>>145955004
>invisibility is le bad
Fuck off reddit, you were proven wrong over and over again.
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based germans hammering slacks
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>>145955073
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
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>>145955156
It did when it came out. Saw once riki kill himself on necro units.
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So this is Dota...
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>>145955195
yeah twitch gonna ban ESL
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>>145954859
His niche got deleted

he was that hero you helped the laning stage to then keep the other team at bay. Any support and underleveled hero that roamed was food for him which meant the other team couldn't farm

Since deaths and laning don't matter anymore he became worthless.

Same deal with a ton of heroes like Chen Luna Kotl Sky Undying etc
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>OG.Arteezy
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>GETTING HAMMERED AT 11AM OR SOMETHING

B A S E D.
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INB4 STREAM IS BANNED
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>>145955173
But his streams were fun, I liked how he never leveled spiderlings because he though it was shit skill.
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I want to strangle slacks.
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>>145955237
damn...
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>Am i right?
>silence
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>>145955276
almost 1 pm but I get your point
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Has Soe tits got bigger what the fuck.
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I unironically enjoy slacks. He doesn't take it seriously, buy their stuff.

Also, how shit does soe look these days.
w e w
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Soe :DDDD
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Soe is doing a camshow on facebook?
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>>145955350
P
R
E
G
N
A
N
T
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>soe will never be your gf
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>>145955350
Looks like she has put on some weight and short hair and tattoos will always be shit tier.
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lmao this autistic weird voice man is great
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>>145955276
1 pm ie perfect time to get blasted
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>>145955350
it happens when you get pregnant
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>>145955361
Slack was good in Manila and he is good here.
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>soe, maelk and james in the same event

what could possibly go wrong.
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>>145955385
>short hair
>shit
wew
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>>145955380
>>145955402
did milk give her some milk?
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>>145955350
she looks chubbier than a few months ago for sure
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That evasion/disjoint quest is bullshit. You either evade a bunch of hits in a losing fight or you get your crit procs and the fight is fucking over.
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>>145955391
slacks is based.
anyone who claims otherwise is a no fun allowed autist

Slacks + sunsfans BTS memecast best cast.
literally no insight, terrible calls, but it was fun.
425 echo slam baby
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>It's a stream works fine during breaks but it's complete shit during the game episode

JUST fuck my internet up
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>Soe will never be your mommy
>You will never suckle on her lactating breasts while she jerks you off and whispers sweetness into your ear
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>>145955470
Damn man
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>>145955276
there is even a word for drinking together in the morning in german.
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>>145955470
IT'S NOT FAAAAAIR
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>>145955434
Probably meant to be played against Brood/PL/Treant
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>>145955470
>wanting damaged goods as your mom
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>>145955470
I'm sure if you give her enough money she'll do just that
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>You will never be buds with Slacks
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>>145955470
I can introduce you to some girls who will do that to you for almost free anon.
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>space mouse
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so predictions for game 3? will og win? or can america hope to be great again?
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>>145955195
beer and wine are legally drinkable by teens (16, 14 under supervision of the parents) in europe so it's fine
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>treant armor doesn't count towards the prevent physical damage quest

explain yourselves dotards
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>>145955526
whoever gets phoenix wins
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Hallo freunde, Ich lerne deutsch... Wie geht's?
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>>145955470
I think you've fapped to one too many Shota incest doujin, anon.
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>>145955518
Elaborate anon.
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>>145955350

>GOD TIER
Legs

>GREAT TIER
Face/Hair/etc.

>GOOD TIER
Tits

>OH SHIT NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING
Ass

>LITERALLY SHIT TIER
Feet
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>>145955526
>Great again
What's great about going out in open qualifiers?
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>>145955571
>paying to take part in bugged quests

explain yourselves valvedrones
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I just rewatched the TI5 secret vs vp games

HOLY FUCK Zai didn't deserve to lose this game, he played 1v9.
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>>145955585
Hallo ich heisse Pierre
Ich wohne in Paris
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RIKI REWORK:

-Backstab: bonus damage from behind etc
-Blink: blink behind unit and free attack etc
-Smokescreen: unchanged

Ultimate: Toggle over 3 passives:
1- Cloack & Dagger- riki is invisible while not moving, no fade time
2- Invisiwalk- riki has perma invisibility but with fade time 6/4/2
3- Dead ringer- If Riki was going to die while this is active, instead turns invisible and invulnerable at 1 hp for 7.5 seconds, during this time riki can't attack or use other skills/items. The enemies receive gold and xp and see riki as dying normally, but after 15 seconds the same xp and gold is removed (unless all gold is already spent)
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>>145955518
Prove it.
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>>145955503
I feel like that's kind of unrealistic for Broodmother though.

Maybe it's just me but every brood game is like dusts constantly getting popped in lane. The amount of opportunities to take advantage of that evasion from the poison's miss chance are kind of slim early game because the supports have to flee from you and don't get a chance to right click, even some carries have the similar issue.
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>>145955625
TI5 era of VP was so good, I miss that roster
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>>145955625
Zai is one of the best players in the world and is a literal Dota genius. I think EG will get carried by him through the qualifiers.
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>>145955576
This

Phoenix turns games around every single time. Watch phoenix will be picked
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>>145955195
there is a popular camgirl that literally flashed her pussy like 3 times "by accident" and she didnt get banned

you have to understand that rules only apply to people that dont bring twitch lots of money

why would they ban a stream with hundreds of thousands of viewers even if they break rules lmao
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i miss her already ;_;
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>>145955645
HOW TO FIX RIKI IN 6.89:

>Base damage from 38-42 to 48-52
>Agility gain from +2.2 to +2.8

>Cloak & Dagger now adds its damage directly to rikis attacks and thus can be critically striked / cleaved.
>Smoke Screen now slows turn speed. Rikimaru is no longer revealed from invisibility while attacking inside Smoke Screen.
>Blink Strike cast time from 0.3 to 0.1
>Smoke Screen cast time from 0.4 to 0.1
>Cloak and Dagger fade time from 6/5/4/3 to 5/4/3/2

>Tricks of the Trade removed and replaced with a new skill: Backstab

Backstab:
>Ultimate, Enemy Target
>75 Mana Cost, 20 Cooldown, 200 cast range
>Rikimaru attempts to catch an enemy unawares and stab them in the back, dealing critical damage and stunning them if successful
>Deals a 4x / 5x / 6x critical strike and stuns for 2.0 / 2.5 / 3.0 seconds
>Takes 1.5 seconds of cast time. If the enemy turns to face you during this time, the spell is wasted and does only a single normal attack with no critical strike or stun.
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>>145955645
>3- Dead ringer
that's incredibly dumb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12vh55_1ul8

how do i get a dota experience like this lads?
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>>145955642
Hallo Pierre, meine name ist Chris und ich wohne in Burgerstan.

Es freut mich!
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>>145955625
back in HoN zai was considered a prodigy
litteraly carrying shitters all day everyday

most of them never became relevant desu (beside PPD who was smart enough to keep him nearby)
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>>145955645
Literally no point in "Cloack" & Dagger
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>>145955507
Implying this dosnt make it even better

>She gets drunk and start crying
>You make her feel better with your dick, while she apologizes to you for being terrible mother
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>>145955662
>I feel like that's kind of unrealistic for Broodmother though.
No I meant do the challenge as PA against Broodmother.
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>>145955771
get friends and play with them on vent
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>>145955718
i miss the old riki that can put death ward
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>>145953932
Calm down manlet
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EARTH SPIRIT HYPE
AW YUS
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>>145955790
he just wanted to make TF2's spy in dota
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>>145955648
>>145955598
Either go to a cougar bar (the website Yelp can help you find them) or make a Tinder account but bump your age so you're within the late 20's to mid 30's range.

There's a lot of single women in the western world who hit that pre-menopause horny level and will certainly jerk you off while you fondle them and more because they're undersexed and work in a business sector where they don't have a lot of spare time to form relationships/go on dates.

This is all of course assuming you're not unhygienic or obese.
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>>145955790

>enemy has no detection
>disappear instantly
>wait a few seconds
>walk away with normal invisibility
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LIQUID PLEASE
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G-guys?
C-can I be picked again?
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>>145955673
Can't help but agree.

I'm EU but I think I'm rooting for EG in ti6.
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>>145955585
Mein Hund ist Apfelstrudel.

All I've got.
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>Lifestealer and riki again

when will this meme end?
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>>145955834
what if riki got a new ultimate death ward
that backstabbed everyone in an aoe every 0.2 seconds
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>>145955794
But it only counts hero attacks, not the spiderlings.

Still Brood vs PA would be an ass lane for PA.
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>>145955919
when icefrog releases a real patch and not this joke he did couple days ago

so after TI
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naix will go jungle?
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>>145955935
>But it only counts hero attacks, not the spiderlings.
Oh alright, didn't know that. Shit challenge indeed then.
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whos this lina and where do i find more pictures of her
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>>145955892
You where a free win for a couple of months, you're time is over now.
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>>145955960
i'll go to ur mom's jungle if you know what i mean ;)
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DEJA VU

I HAVE BEEN IN THIS DRAFT BEFORE
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>Jerax Lion

le ma o
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>it's the same draft

w e w
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>Same line up
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>giving OG all their signature heroes
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>>145955995
how rude
no need to offend me
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>>145955787
What are the dota equivalents of the heroes he played?
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FUCK OFF RIKI NAIX
FUUUUUUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFF
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R E S I D E N T S L E E P E R
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>>145956053
>american top chef
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Mid lifestealer, calling it now.
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Man Kuroky your Drafts are not good
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>naga
I hope its fucking support or this game is over.
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>>145956023

yes I remember seeing naga at TI2 too, but earth spirit wasn't there
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What if there was an item that made you invulnerable to everything?
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>>145955862
>assuming you're not unhygienic or obese
What if I look like Alan Alda wannabe?
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>>145956053

what the fuck is this
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>>145955976
dunno but that's an impressive rack and i can't blame the guy for checking it the fuck out though he probably should have contained himself for the camera
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Hey guys - I'm looking for Moonbeam weather effect. I'm down to trade!
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what am I watching?
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>>145956169
doritos and instant noodles

american delicacy
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tiny game
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Some explain this riki meme to me
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>>145956148

> or this game is over.

are you new? they picked naga to demoralize slark

this game is already in og's bag
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>>145955718
I know you thought hard about this.
But if you think about it some more, it is really broken.
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Such a cutie.
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>magnus + no follow up
oh no
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>>145956067
he played offlane

puck (bubbles) offlane was a top pick in hon and proly one of his best hero
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i hope og win, i dont even know why
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>>145956165
These are 30 sometimes even 40 year old women anon, they might actually be into Alan Alda considering they would've seen him on TV as a child.
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>>145956246
>Cloud
>Earth spike
>Empowered Slark

?
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>>145956246
infest magnus?
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>>145956246
Baka, it's obviously going to be carry riki for easy riki ult damage and an aghs rushing lion.
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>>145956242

Ogre Magi?
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>>145956246
cloud, lifestealer infest, lion stun, slark with empower
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