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corpse edition

>What's new
new patch is live, ranked season 1 and unranked play + medivh are alive, next hero confirmed to be gul'dan

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20143449/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-june-14-2016-6-14-2016

>where do I find you panda-loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see what types you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, it's not worth it.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
All of the hero voice lines: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm
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>>145496898

Old thread
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Where my Li Li fans at?
Post your best Li Li's!
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This is Valla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2UfGK98sIo
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Can someone draw Kael'thas summoning his phoenix and saying "BEHOLD DE BENIS GOD AL'AR :DDDDDDD" pls I would do it myself but I don't have a pc atm
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>>145770367
>fucking newfag don't remember that Samuro took down a whole island using just 5 explosive barrels and a pig
Samuro is love, Samuro is life
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This is Valla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ujTQBIObo

Take that shit logo out of my Valla
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>>145770397
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>>145770421
FO DA BURNINGU BURADO
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>>145770285
yiff in hell
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>>145771057
I'd rather post Li Li's on a weeb board.
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>tfw can no longer afk in training mode for ez exps
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So how's Medivh?
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>>145771565
god tier and shit tier at the same time
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>tfw Anub'AROCKING the enemy team
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>>145770638
ashnamenolore :D
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I placed bronze 3 :DDD
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>Queue up for my first unranked draft
>Enemy team is seriously retarded

Do people use unranked as a meme version of HL?
Even had a Liming trying to walk past stitches and me, and obviously dying in the process.
If I wasn't so lazy I'll make a webm
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>>145770421
>tfw they will never add Lantresor of the Blade to appease blademasterfags and draeneifags at the same time
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>>145773740
Everyone should try out unranked draft. It's a great new tool to learn.
>Play HL
>Our capt misses first ban
>'oh sorry I've only played 3 ranked games before. I didn't know'
>Other team locks in a support
>Out capt bans a support as second ban when they don't have a tank yet and clearly not going double sup
WHY. WHY DID YOU Q FOR RANKED?
we lost if that's not already clear
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>tfw you get placed above bronze
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>>145774552
>Get matched with gold players
I'M GOING TO GET SILVER!
This is a good feel.
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>>145774552
>>145774798
t. lunara main
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>>145774552
>win 3 lose 7 in placement
>get plat 1
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So uh, hows this game holdin' up? Thinking of playing again, haven;'t played since last year
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>smash enemy team
>we're ahead three levels
>objective spawns and teamfight ensues
>suddenly 3 people on my team disconnect and I get crazy lag, we get crushed of course
>everyone reconnects before the objective spawns
>teamfight about to happen
>3 guys disconnect and we get crushed
>enemy team takes objective and our core
Coincidence?
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>>145775146
I started again pretty recently, and it's good fun. Been some pretty major changes for a few characters that you'll have to read up on but overall still entertaining.
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What are some of the best feels in the game, /hotsg/?

>play TLV
>grouped up all 3 to take merc camp
>melee assassin tries to kill erik
>micro the fuck out of it
>end up running erik in circles around the other 2
>kill him, take camp, win game since team is ahead by 4 levels
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>>145776634
>tfw you quit the game and shitpost in /hotsg/ while playing WoW
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>>145776769
noice, keep em coming anon

>be zeratul
>enemy li ming
>blow her up each and every time she ults
>it's as if she's not even in the game
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>>145774552
>mfw all placements matched with diamond 1 and 2

gonna finish like 4-6 and still get diamond 3, feels good man
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>>145776769

>used to run AFK training in the background during weekly Rukhmar, Sha and Nalak kills
>rip afk training you will be missed

>>145777321

>ming picks the ult that causes her to root herself in place
>use it to land skillshots
>this kills the ching ping
>frantically spinning the laser trying to move away from the gravity lapse or thornwood vine
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>>145775729
i think not
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>>145778334
If you're on linux I can give you my afk script. You'll have to tweak some numbers tho
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>>145770367

Neat.
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>>145778987

I'm sadly not, friend. Appreciate it, though. Thankfully got the last of my Heroes to 9 prior to the patch, so my main account (with the exception of Chromer and Cho'gall) is all done gold wise, I think.

>might have to actually start playing the game now
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YOU
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>>145781440
??
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>>145781440
ARE
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>>145781721
HERE TO HELP
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>>145781440

Greetings, Summoner.
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>>145781721
NOT
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>>145781817
THE ONES I SAW
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>>145781817

Sit down, Illidan.
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How to do Kael combo correctly and how to get the most out of it?
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>>145782185
D the E then Q and W.
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>gold 3
>2 memeing memers map
>troll bans and pics
>Arthas as final pick/me
>game goes surprisingly well, doesn't feel like the otherside are retards, just good counterpicks.
>almost ending
>internet shits itself
>10 mins later
>won't reconnect, finally drop and forced to exit game
>FUCK LEAVER STATUS
>Go back in game
>No leaver status
>points went up

EVERYTHING WENT BETTER THEN EXPECTED.
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>>145782185
>1v1/small scrims
if you think you'll be able to get two bombs on the target: E into Q, D + W, then W again
Otherwise: D + E into Q, W

teamfights
D+E if necessary
D+Q if grouped
D+W else or for poke
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>>145782185

>D your E
>lob phoenix if bruiser
>place Q beneath them while applying W
>auto-attack

CONSIDER YOUR FLAME

EXTINGUISHED
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new to the game here
is illidal ok?
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how are you supposed to play against the lost vikings? you cant not have people in lanes so 1 lane becomes a 4v3
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>>145782370
You're a lucky mother fucker.

>Playing Zeratul against squish comp on tomb
>going 23-1 near the end
>right as wake the last push for their core my computer restarts because of an update I had been postponing and forgot about
>takes like 6 minutes to get back
>game is already over
>no credit for the match, it isn't even recorded in my history, no replay to watch
>I couldn't even get mad, just sad and disappointed
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>>145782869
yes but if you're new to the game you're just gonna be another crappy illidan ruining the game for everyone
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placements are fucking terrible, every single game is like this shit
how the fuck do you die 8 fucking times?

why the FUCK do i have the most hero damage as a fucking specalist?

jesus Christ every single game is filled with fucking retards that dont know how to play.
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>>145782904
- dont die in the 3v4 lane
- pick a hero that is good for chasing and killing vikings (zeratul, falstad, dehaka, etc.)
- go for objectives united and decisively - united so you outnumber your opponent at the objective, decisively because the longer you drag out an objective fight, the more value vikings get in lane
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>>145783047

>specialists don't do hero damage
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Placement matches went - 8 wins 2 losses, Diamond 3.
But my last match was a little unfair.. I got a Grandmaster on my team. (He was a tad rude but he played well so whatever.) (The victory caused him to jump 14 spaces on the grandmaster tiering, too.)
Does this mean I can actually be considered acceptable at this game?
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>>145783336
vikings being top hero damage is fucking ridiculous though
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>>145783387
no
everyone at like 3k got put into diamond 3 , masters or bust
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>>145783662
Is 3k not acceptable? I didn't say exceptional.
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>>145783782
3.4k is confirmed not shitter
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>placement games
>win 6 lose 4
>silver 5
>mfw

WHY AM I PLAYING THIS GAME? JUST TO SUFFER
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>>145783662
i'm at 2.5k and got diamond 3. the majority of my placements were with GMs, including a match that had four of the top 5 GMs. the game just kept using me as the shitter to balance out average MMR in each GM match
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>>145784030
reminder placements did very negligible things in terms of rating, your league is 90% determined by your previously held mmr
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>>145784101
GM doesnt mean much at this point
it's just who got a decent duoqueue and racked up wins the fastest
give it a couple of months for GMs ato accurately represent the best players
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>>145784101

Yeah, I found myself (2400) matched against three 4000 players in the final days of preseason to balance out the one 4000 player we had on Abathur.

The other team had a 1500 Li-Li, or something to balance it out.

>>145784030

>tfw went 3-7 and got platinum 1 because I won more than half my placements in preseason then abandoned the account

>>145784503

Hey, is the end-of-season portrait awarded for what you reach, or end at?
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>>145784205
>>145784205
>your league is 90% determined by your previously held mmr

And i was getting hype for this """"""""revamp""""
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>>145784582
>Hey, is the end-of-season portrait awarded for what you reach, or end at?
It will always be what you reach.
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>>145784697
If you were very good or very bad the rating squish had a big impact on your rating, but if you're the average joe it was a small change
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>>145784697

>be literally silver
>waiting for revamp as I can at last be the rank I deserve
>placed back in silver

what an awful system right i hope they get mmr fixed soon
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>>145784205
It must include QM MMR as a calculation or something then. By hotslog's measurement, by HL MMR was 2.4k (platinum-ish) but my QM MMR was 3.25k (top diamond/bottom masters). I ended the preseason at rank 8 (highest rank 6), and I got diamond 3 all the same.
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>getting most hero damage while going full tank stiches is a recurring thing now
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>you cleanse the 1 guy in the etc ult but he decides to spend that one second inside the ult
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>>145785887

>you go to help peel/heal the teammate that gets caught out and he takes it as a sign its okay to go back in
>he dies
>pings you and/or says something

support can be suffering friend
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>>145785887
what did you think would happen? Nobody expects to get cleansed and least of all in an etc ult

Cleanse doesn't even have a noticable effect, pretty much every time I got cleansed I don't notice it and just figure "oh that stun went off quickly, guess I got cleansed"
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>tfw no hl duo q friend
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>>145785887
>not going afk as soon as you get Moshed
bronze
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>>145783047
>He plays viks and aba all day
sure, they can be good.
but you're playing with random idiots.
GET A FUCKING CARRY CHAMP OR FOREVER SHITTER
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>>145784842
>>145785108
I feel this feel
I used to be bad at this game, I did my placements way too early in beta.
Forced 50 kept me in low MMR.
>Get MUCH better at the game
RESET WILL SAVE ME! I WILL BE FREE AFTER 10,000 YEARS! PLAT IS IN MY SIGHTS!
>Silver
o-ok t-thanks blizz y-you too

i cri evry tiem
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top 3 Warcraft heroes
GO
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>>145786053
it literally says UNSTOPPABLE ON YOUR SCREEN
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>>145787348
Kilrogg
Mannoroth
Socrethar
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>>145787348
Valla
Tracer
Jackie Chan
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>>145785521
>mfw top hero dmg stitches on tank build fro the nth time
I CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>145785887
>not jumping in the mosh like your retarded teammates who got caught

Bronze.
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>>145787465
As a tiny text above your hero.
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>>145787828
>Things bronzies say
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>>145787293

If you aren't good enough to win more than half of your games at silver you literally belong there.

>>145786904

Yeah, this. Go play something with kill potential, preferably also capable of tearing down structures and capturing mercenaries/bosses, and then doing objectives.

>you know who I'm talking about
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>>145785887
>mura and li-ming get caught in etc ult
>immediately cleanse li ming, she TPs out and survives
>the 3.7k MMR mura dies, spam pings you, and says "uh, do you not have fucking cleanse?"
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>>145787828
You remind me of one hots wtf moments video were a team goes all in against the core, without reading the fucking word invulnerable on top of it
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>>145787932
I'm diamond 1
I certainly dont catch a tiny line of text in the middle of a teamfight
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>3 months after release dehaka still only has one ult
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>>145789130
>two years after release, Kerrigan still has no ults or trait
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>>145789130
Is adaptation that bad? How could it be improved?
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>enemy team drafts 3 squishy heroes
>pick greymane
>win the game with 20+ kills
fucking christ, why didn't i start playin this furry before
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>>145789543
dehaka is plenty tanky, there's no need to pick an ult that has virtually no impact on fights and is tricky to utilize on top of that
I'd be willing to bet it's the least popular ultimate in the game, it's not even one of those niche ults like bw aoe or one of a crappy ult that's at least fun to mess around with like BFG
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>>145789393
>two years after release, kael is still fucking bullshit
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>>145789767
>least picked ultimate
>not ultramemesk
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>>145789741

Yeah, I'm surprised I don't see him more often. Usually it's just battlefield of eternity.

>>145789850

King'thas still hasn't received a skin despite being possibly the most popular Hero.

:I
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>>145789958
is more popular
also quickly skimming through heroes stage dive seems to be the least popular ult with 3.5% popularity, but I think that's just because mosh pit is so good
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Is "Marked for the kill" (Greymane) the worst ult in the game? I can't think of a reason to pick this over the other ult.
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>>145782934
Another new player here can I get a recommended list of heroes I should buy for each role so far, I only own the two heroes that come with the recommend a friend pack, Raynor and Slyvanas.
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>>145790342
oh shit I forgot about that
that's even lower, 2.5%
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>>145790231

Greymane, Marked for the Kill.

>>145790342

>skillshot that lets you leap on dood and murder his face
>point and click that lets you leap on doodette and muder her face

Yeah, no idea what they were thinking making the two so similar.
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>>145790427
KT, Thrall, Tychus, Muardin, ETC, Johanna, Tassadar, Zagara, Xul are good heroes and fairly easy to utilize
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>>145776634
>Be jo with regen build and indestructible. >Go deep in a teamfight
>Indestructible shield pops.
>Stay in
>Enemy team clusters around to kill me when it wears off
>Laws of hope, shield glare heal, and a malf regrowth with natural regen.
>The shield wears off and I'm back at 80% health

Can't be stopped.
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which anon should i avoid teaming with when playing with /hotsg/?
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>>145790427

>tank

Johanna.

>healer

Rehgar & Li-Li.

>ranged assassin

Zagara.

>melee assassin

Sonya and/or Thrall.

>literally never die

Tassadar.

>low mmr free wins

Xul.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>145793163
>>145770217
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>>145791784
NA or EU
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>>145791784
You should avoid me because I'm the resident bronze, and certified worse player here
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>>145794470

>log onto smurf that I apparently didn't disable general chat on
>random guy blathering on about forced 50 and bad teammates
>check his rank
>literally bronze 4

actually curious as to how you'd get down there desu might be fun
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>>145794872
Not that guy, I haven't done all my placements for fear of being bronze 10 or whatever the lowest possible is
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>>145795182

I doubt it's possible to be placed lower than silver unless you go 0-10 AND were rank 50-45 during preseason.
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>people are actually using sub rank 1 icons
>they are in your team
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>>145795182
Was gold-ish MMR, had disastrous placements, got high silver.
Don't be scared. Your rank can only go up after you finish them, not before.
/vg/ has lots of nice lower level players to duo with.
Play anon, play
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>tfw your team doesn't know how to handle split pushing
>give the enemy free forts all game long
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>>145796265
>losing to split pushing in 2016
lmao
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>>145795545

>thrall with 13 coins decides to invade
>dies
>"team??"
>all four other people call him retarded
>mentions his rank 1 portrait and how nobody else was using theirs
>ask him how my level 24 account with 30 games played was in charge of banning, suggesting I may have a higher mmr
>"muted troll"
>all three other players agree to report him at the end of the game

:3c
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>people with rank 1 portraits at diamond that don't know how to draft and pick talents

Just töte mich familie
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>get medivh in your team
>it's now a 4v5
Thanks Blizz
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Will say games do feel more consistent, at least at gold 3 so far. Placement shitters always feel like a wild card though.
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how high does this number go?
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>>145797187
Everyone from like 2.4k to 4k was pretty much guaranteed diamond 3
It means as much as rank 1 did - nothing. Masters or bust.
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>>145798901
Nice
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>four ranked dodges in a row

I mean like the opposing team first picked Gaz so I can understand that one but like four in a row cmon
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why are blizzfags not answering my silence appeal ticket? 30+ hours have passed looool

how do i reset settings on 4chan or something, idk, i lowered my movable post a reply box thing under the page and cant pull it out anymore, so i can reply to a thread only from the top of the page
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>>145798901
but why
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>>145798901
>>145800721
to get some players in and allow me to level 5 everyone for that sweet sweet gold
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>wining 3 HL matches in a row
>suddenly it takes 6 minutes to queue

ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>want to give hots a go again
>friend is slightly interested in checking up on things
>except not really that much and he'd rather play other games
>playing hots on my own is boring
suffering
i guess i'll just sit here and wait for a miracle to happen
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>>145798901
Neat! Now I get to try out every hero before I decide on who I should buy first
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>>145801202
>join the /vg/ channel
>ask for party
there, just beware of those meme masters
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>>145801434
>join the /vg/ channel
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>>145801547
>not joining the /vg/ channel
Are you too turbo autist to play with those you post with.
Why are you even here then? GB2REDDIT if you don't like us.
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>>145774461
i actually won my last promotion game playing double support when my client failed and locked me into Malfurion.

Went moonfire, twilight build mode and ended up doing a fuckton of damage
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>>145802024
>Are you too turbo autist to play with those you post with.
yes

>Why are you even here then? GB2REDDIT if you don't like us.
nigga i've never been there and i don't plan to be
but
>joining the /vg/ channel
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Is playing morales the definiton of suffering?

>no one peels for you
>if you go to help a guy in 1v3 and start healing him, he will continue fighting the 1v3 instead of running away
>people run away out of your range for no reason
>people use abilities that cancel your heal when they dont need to

its a nightmare
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>>145802556
>out of range for no reason
Have a feeling you're also including when a melee goes in for a ranged. If you're not, a ok.

One of the biggest issues morales has is that her one cc ability has a giant HOLY FUCK I HAVE TO STAND HERE TO USE IT PLEASE TARGET ME AND DODGE IT dealio.
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>OP: Kael'thas
>Overturned, but not completely broken: Xul, Anub'arak
>Undertuned, mostly niche but not total shit: Tyrael, Murky, Sgt. Hammer, Morales, Gazlowe
>Complete fucking garbage: Jaina, Kerrigan, Leoric
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>>145804043
>jaina
>bad
lol
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>>145805526
Literally any draft where Jaina isn't an immediate throw to the other team, Chromie is an infinitely better choice since they share roughly the same counters.
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>check match history
>notice I recently played against a level 20 Li-Li
>level 20
>Li-Li
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>>145798901
Just in time to do a stress test of my afk script >:D
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>>145792112
>literally never die

>Tassadar.

i think you mean artanis
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>>145806421
>tfw 2 lvl 20 heroes
fucking vacations and stimpacks
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>>145808672

Which Heroes, friend?

>>145808621

I actually just played against an Artanis, Tassadar and Medivh trio-queue.

>we ended the game before Artanis got scary, thankfully :)
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>>145787348
thrall
thrall
falstad
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>>145809368
muradin and raynor
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>>145802072
This is fine.
DMG build LiLi is a fuckin monster too.
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How do you do it guys? How do you keep playing when you are constantly being matched with people who haven't got a clue? How do you keep motivated to try and climb ranks when these shit-heads are consistently dragging you down? How is it fun to be constantly trying to carry and teach brain-dead retards how to play? How?

My god, this is torture. I think I'm approaching my limit.
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>tfw I touch myself to bw's voice and cute threats
>_<
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>>145787348
Tyrande
Magni
Carnie
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>>145810987
Play with /vg/ and learn to enjoy the meme again.
We fuck around and don't give a fuck. We also win plenty
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>>145810987
Just pick murky
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Played ranked for the first time today. Someone picked illidian.
> Oh_no.jpg
He died 18 times and did a total of 800 hero damage. He was so bad that the opponents ignored him.
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Can some one give advice about mid game for a noob?

When do you push?
I played dragon shire today, and even though we won all team fight we weren't able to push much. Camps was quite pointless, they got killed quickly.
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>>145812018
Oh, and my second game was in dragon shire and an opponent picked abathur. Easy win, but I felt sorry for that team.
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>>145812315
>Camps was quite pointless, they got killed quickly.
Often they are! Push when they go take camps.
You don't really have a set time to push. You can play very slow and just let waves come to you in a safe spot in the lane. Just make sure you get the xp and try to out level the other team.
Try to poke them out of lane and keep yourself high health, let your healer roam if needed, protect them if they may be ganked.
Fuck camps, get levels. on DS, getting the dragon is not as important as denying it to opponents, just hold one shrine at least and keep soaking.
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>some fag picks abathur
>his team loses
>blames his other teammates

everytime
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>>145812315

>camps are pointless

Yes, because people don't know when to take them

>last tribute spawned on the top half of the map
>grab your siege giants
>they destroy towers and half the enemy fort by the time the tribute battle is over

Most people just want to capture them *AFTER* the tribute fight is over, and then they'll just die in lane.

>when to push

When you know it's safe, or that the opposing team can't contest.

If Tychus, Anub'arak and Rehgar all show bot lane clearing waves it may be safe to grab the top fort, or if your team is 13 and they're 11, and Sylvanas is dead.

No, people aren't always able to make these calls, and it's generally best to be "safe". Ping away from that 60% health keep if the enemy team will be back up in 5 seconds, etc.

>>145813582

Yeah, it's the same with The Lost Vikings; "why didn't you all draft a perfect roaming comp omg", or Azmodan; "help i need stacks" or the "just defend me" Hammer.

>>145812315

>how mid game

Just don't die. Look to keep teammates safe, and for opportunities to catch opposing players out, especially prior to objectives (killing Valla before the fight even starts without burning Heroics practically guarantees the Tribute, etc)
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>>145812315
>>145813379
More tips:
on CH, if you can get the first 2 tributes, let them have the third while you take the boss camp. DO NOT TAKE BOSS IF YOU CURSE THEM. If they take boos while you are cursed, just defend your forts/keeps and then group to burn the boss down. Enjoy your almost no damage and their wasted curse time.
BoE: Try to get shaman camp a little before immortals spawn. If they have shamans pushing you, poke defend while one clears the camp from your lane. You can lose as much to the shamans as the immortal.
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>>145813831
nothing is worse than "muh siege damage" hammer
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>so conditioned to the legendary drop sound that I get a half-boner when a diablo map ends, win or lose
how do I fix this
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>>145815149

>somebody pick medic
>protect me
>just keep me safe and we win
>she is good on this map
>master skin
>my hero damage look i'm not the reason stuff isn't dying

:^)
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>>145779052
Asian Valla with yellow cheek blush.
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>>145798954
50

>>145798901
Time to get TLV to 5.
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guys imwatching pirated warcraft movie can u give me the ~ time codes of scenes with grom/kargath/kilrogg i rlly dont giv a shit about the rest of this gay movie
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>>145817548
0:00 - 02:03
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>>145813582
Hello bronzie

aba is the best hero in the game
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>>145813582
To be fair, Aba is very reliant on non-shit teammates more than most heroes (or the most)
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>>145819368

Yes, it's almost as though he doesn't work very well in solo queue for that exact reason.
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>I got ranked bronze 5

Aha, they do exist.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4olunc/bronze_5_experience/
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Pony mounts when?!
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>Be Ming
>Literally No bad maps for me
>Literally no hard counters
>Literally no consequences for fucking up anything at all
>Have full hp, throw purple shit
>Have low hp, throw purple shit
>any trouble, teleport, throw purple shit
>Not even good at skillshits, skill have highest kills n' dmg
>Never die ever
>Free health everywhere
>Endless spam
>Shield-a-port
>Trait is literally gibsmedat dmg without even thinking about it
>Basically super mobile Hammer/Chromie, but with no risk
>Same build ere'map
>Same build ere'comp
>Same build ere'enemy comp

What other heroes are retarded good for QM stomping?

I just want to own all the broken mindless champs before I get tired of this game. I'm think about waiting to see how Broken Guldan is.
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>>145820490

Kael
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>>145819681
He can be fine solo. Just non-shit teammates.

>>145820042
NOW
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>ranked
>some guy picks Lili
>other guy picks Vikings
>Some Tracer starts flaming even though he keeps dying like a moron
>can't even flank a Morales and watches the tank get healed up

I thought League was the more toxic community but someone getting mad at this babby game is ridiculous.
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>4 placement games so far
>2 wins 2 loses

I'm going to be placed in bronze, right?
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>>145820625
Already have free boom ultra area control man of permabanned.
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So, who will be next after Gul'dan?
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>>145821043

What was your mmr/rank in preseason, friend?

>>145820826

>League and Heroes toxicity

Funny enough I hear it as a selling point; that Heroes is significantly less toxic, and I've found it to be the complete opposite because the people who play Blizzard games can be absolute basket cases if you call them out on anything.
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>>145821278
Silver, something like 1700 Which means bronze
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>>145821192
>That feel when Blizzard is about to shit out yet another pentakill mage
>This will put KT one step closer to being out of always banned hell
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>>145821494

>pentakill mage

Tut tut, we'll have no individualism in our communistic creation.

It's a mega kill, and no individual on-screen credit is given because this is a TEAM game. :)

>people thought KDA would add toxicity to the game
>they implement it
>nothing happens
>we can't have personal killstreaks

>>145821397

Probably silver/gold, then.
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>people on here of all places using toxic unironically
Can't you clowns come up with any other applicable word? Do you really need to use the buzzword meme? Ironically, you complain that people are retards and here you are.
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>>145821848
who are you quoting?
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>>145822097
Are you new here?
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>>145822157
Ive been here since the beginning of summer
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Enemy core at 19%
>Take camps
>Get obj
>DEFEND DEFEND! DEFEEEEEEEND
>Zag tries to go core while we fail the defend
>lose core race
why.
Thanks for trying Zag, you tha real MVP
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>>145821848

Uh, sorry?
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>>145798901

>Tfw no more afk training

;_;
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>>145821278

>be me
>tell the guy who bans to ban ETC or we're probably doomed considering their current setup
>he just says "muted"
>doesn't ban ETC
>enemy team picks ETC

Yes we got stomped
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>>145822851

Oh, yeah, I've had some weird ones.

>which level 1 talent for sonya
>usually war paint, I think?
>"LOL muted"
>wut
>takes the talent that increases his rage cap to 200
>feeds his ass off
>five minutes in "gg afk"

Just a Quick Match from a couple of months ago still stuck in my mind.
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fifth placement match and last pick says:
>I don't play support
Picks butcher and we go without healer
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>>145823635
Just kill all of the enemy before you need heals.
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>>145823635
When did he say that though? I mean, if he said that in the beginning of the draft, couldn't Someone Else pick a healer? Do you really want a shit like that as your healer?
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>try out unranked
>everyone picks warrior
>quickly regret my decision
yeah i dont think ill ever be playing this mode again
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>>145824674

Not him, but I've seen last pick hover a healer and then switch it out for Tychus, Illidan, Nova or whatever at the last second.

I'll always just fill if others are being stubborn, though.

>they're either silenced or 100% deaf/mute for the entire game

I like how we can't get an optional All Chat but at the beginning of every match you're reminded that you can simply disable allied communication, hehe. :)

>>145824806

That's unfortunate, I've found it to be pretty good relative to Quick Match; most people seem to be willing to at least try to build a functional composition.

Oh, and people don't (usually) lose their shit as much as they do in ranked.
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>>145824806
rather just do QM and fuck around.
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>>145824983
I wish we could have all chat before and after a game but not during. Like, why is there no chat on the loading screen.
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>>145823173

I usually ask in my ranked game not to go double warrior or double support. I have no idea why these people think it's good, maybe it was used in a tournament, but it never works out in any of my games. Double warrior -> nobody can kill anything and the tanks just get blown up by the dps. Double support -> nobody can kill anything and supports die.
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>>145825364
I like to double support if one of those support is Tyrande.
Double tank isn't bad if one of your tanks is a bruiser, and if it's shrines, having a Sonya who isn't your main tank is kinda nice.
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>>145825364

Yeah, just sort of wish people would get some things out of their head.

>one guy throws a fit and dodges because after I picked Anub'arak somebody else thought Sonya would be a good pick into Morales/Nazeebo

>>145825353

Eh, probably just the playerbase. People get bent out of shape if you b-step them, so I can only imagine how mentally shattered people would be if somebody puts a "?" in chat after Thrall uses Sunder in the wrong direction, or Nazeebo walls himself to death.

>decide to play Zera on smurf account because I'm too scared to play him at my mains MMR
>they pick Jaina into my Zera
>her team gets first blood and she b-steps all over the guy
>decide to just kill her all game, b-stepping each time
>kill her like 15 times
>win the game easily because 5v4
>whispers me after saying she reported me for b-stepping and to enjoy not playing ranked

:3c
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why doesnt this game have all talk or am i missing something
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Are there any maps where an Aba is genuinely a shit pick on, regardless of player skill, talents and team skill/coordination?
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>>145825867
There's some real shitters playing Heroes.

I sometimes play AI when my Internet is being shit or when I'm too tired to want to actually think about what I'm doing. I had an AI game where we lost forts and were at a level disadvantage until level 17. I had to work my ass off not to loose.

Garden Map: Diablo keeps roaming around not doing anything. "Diablo! What are you doing?"
"Looking for spores"
"You can see them on the mini map; there aren't any."
"Diablo!! There are no spores."
"Diablo, play the game with us! Get over here!"
"Diablo!! That isn't helping."
Zeratul only PVEs.
Jaina only feeds.

It turned into 2 v 5 Brightwing and Muradan win the game alone.

When I looked at the player data for Diablo and Zeratul, it was shocking. They both had 100% loose rate in all their quick match games. They were level 35 and 40. They had under 50% win rate in AI games.

They couldn't have been little kids, it was 2AM on the US servers. I just can't even fathom how you can be that bad after playing so many games.
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Is Nova still the most cucked character in the game?
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>>145826178
Spider Cave? The one lane map. Maybe?
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>>145826178

>maps

Definitely Tomb. Battlefield also doesn't seem like it'd really be his thing.

>>145826167

Because the majority of players couldn't handle a simple "lol" in All Chat after getting 1v1'd, 5-man ganked, etc.

A few'll say there isn't any point, but I think it's an important part of the moba experience. Just make it optional and let people disable it.

>hurr it'll let teammates throw games easier

If one person on your team is actually interested in throwing it's already over.

>>145826680

I've definitely bumped into some characters doing my dailies in Vs. AI.

>pic related

I don't recall either of them having more than, like, 10 games Vs. Humans played.
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>>145826932

>them

Yes, there were two.

>pic
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>>145826680
>spores
I lel'd
>looking for them
My sides are gaining speed
>Jaina >only< feeds (IN AI)
I have no sides, only rock hard abs are left.
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>blood death knights get Leroic's wraith walk as an ability in Legion
based Blizzard
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>>145828879
Well it’s good that Blizzard games implement things that work from one of their games into others, didn’t they also change a skill in diablo 3 WD to behave more like the zombie ring of Nazeebo?
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>>145830248
d3 is terrible and has shit asthetics to boot.
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>>145830958
t. David "fucking loser" Brevik
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>>145798901
Right before I go on vacation. Ok.
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>>145788260
if you cleansed mura he couldve canceled the mosh
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>>145831281
Didn't that guy got fired?
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>tfw can't dodge the tards even if you duo queue
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>>145831692
>thinking changing 1 person will change all 4
?
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>>145820490
>li ming cast r
>dragon breath+sand bolt

from 100% to 0% in 2s :P
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>roaming on Zera
>relatively low jaina laning with tyrande and just saw her use heal
>ping that I'm coming in
>laner teammate straight-up charges them, eats a full combo and dies
>before I'm even in lane
>zera???
>still kill Jaina and nearly Tyrande but this happens repeatedly

ehh just hold that poker face for like, two seconds
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>>145834116
It hurts every time I have to type, 'Just wait two seconds for everyone else. Fights work better as a team.' Or alternatively just, 'WAIT!'
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>due queue
>Butcher + morales
>They probably saw some funny clip of the combo but never tried it
>Enemy full of cc
>Ask morales to take Cleanse
>"yeah^^"
>takes the extra knockback instead
>With butcher
>Butcher takes furnace Blast against tracer lili diablo nova nazeebo
> -230 points

The highlight was butcher charging into diablo at the enemy gate and dying with morales
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>>145837473

>duo-queue that picks Cho'gall AFTER the enemy team drafts Tychus
>they get first blooded in 30 seconds
>blame our rehgar for not healing enough
>blame johanna for not peeling enough
>blames Valla for not killing things, "gall most damage lol" -Cho
>after 5 deaths in the first 10 minutes just bsteps and dances around our base
>take a few minutes break after we lose
>get put into a game with them again

why isn't ranked solo queue only again exactly
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>>145837473
>Butcher + morales
whats the combo?
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>>145838094

Silence of the Lambs plus Stim, probably.

Land an R on more than two people late game during Stim and they're just toast. Tons of healing/mitigation on the Butcher, too, between his Brand and Morales' Q and W.

>>145837473

>didn't take cleanse when all she intended to do was healslut her partner
>furnace blast against that comp

No sense made in my mind, but Butcher players, so.
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>>145834940

Ugh, it hurts because I haven't done anything but be a flex player until now but Zeratul is probably the most fun I've had in Hots in months.

>lost all eight games played with him

Maybe it's the sample size because I don't feel as though I'm doing anything too horribly wrong.
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So /hotsg/, bronze here, what are some decent first picks when KT/ Li Ming arent banned. Whenever Im first pick and its possible to pick either "chinkling" or "le ashanalore elf" my team usually demands one of the two, problem is I dont have them, and dislike playing them because of how OP they are.

Do I really need them for HL? What are some alternative first picks?
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>>145840862

Suggestion: Inform the player in charge of banning you own neither Hero so he can either ban Ming, forcing the opposing team to risk letting Kael'thas through or simply banning Kael outright.

Good first pick material (in my opinion);

Johanna, Zagara, Anub'arak, Thrall, Xul, Rehgar, Falstad, Tracer, Greymane.

>do I need them for HL?

No, you don't.

>team demands one of the two

Kael'thas is great. Li-Ming less so, especially on specific maps.

Xul is busted on tomb, and potentially on Infernal Shrines if your team is capable of winning the early punishers and can't content with the split-push.

Zagara on Blackheart's Bay and Tomb.

Sylvanas to snowball Battlefield and Infernal Shrines.

And so on.
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>>145841334

Might actually just go ahead and tack Sonya onto the list, too.

>excellent jungler, capable of soloing/invading bosses
>fantastic duelist
>tanky
>tons of damage
>inexpensive
>outside of knowing when to delay whirlwind usage and hitting good Q's she is relatively easy
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This game is shit, name one reason why you should play it over any of the other MOBA's?
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>>145844346

Uh, because you enjoy it?
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>>145844346
I don't play it
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>>145844346

For the same reason anybody continues to play anything.

1) Invested; time and/or currency spent
2) Friends/connections
3) Familiarity/habit

It's not as though many people are going to be playing any of these games on any significant level, so I don't see why the occasional Diamond four wanders over to ask why everybody isn't playing that League thing.

No idea how dota works.
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>Play hammer for first time in over a year
>She's level 10 for me, she used to be fun
>The game sucked shit and had no "fun"
Not touching her again for a long time. She just doesn't work well anymore. Especially if you're not in a coordinated team. Not much point playing her either if you compare her to other DPS.
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how do i auto-space / orb / kite whatever the term in this game?

like if im playing as valla what do i set as my hotkey or something in order to auto-attack then kite back as efficiently as possible?
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>>145845120
....what? Orb? Orb in HotS?

You move. And attack. Then move again. Instead of just standing there attacking constantly. That's it.
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Is battle.net down for maintenance or is Blizzard fucking with me?

I thought that was only on Wednesdays?
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>>145845979
works for me anon, try using a non-pirated copy :^)

*this topic has been answered so the thread is now locked*
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WHEN THE FUCK IS HAMMER GETTING A REWORK

It's fucking mind-boggling how bad she is right now. I always liked her and she was always shitty, but at least she had niche and, in the right comp against the right comp, you could do some fun, if silly and easily coutnerable, things.
But now she doesn't even have that. Her damage even in siege mode is shit. Her hp is pathetic. Her non-mobility has become an insurmountable hurdle with more and more hyper mobile heroes introduced as well as heroes that utterly destroy anyone standing still.
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>>145848476
just ban her
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It's been like a year since I started playing this game, and I still can't for the life of me decide on a hero to get good with. I want to get good with Zeratul but a lot of people tell me that at higher ranks he's just a worse Illidan. Should I just try to get good with Illidan instead? Can Zeratul be a carry hero? I'm interested in playing carry heroes in particular, which I know is in contrast to the game fundamentally... but you can't deny that some heroes have greater carry potential than others.

Really, I have trouble in games like this where I can't focus on one hero/class/whatever. I keep just moving around and leveling up a little bit of everyone and I'm just kinda shit at the game as a result. I'm pretty good with Chen and Li Li and have them both at level 10, but am a little burnt out by them and want to play heroes that are more challenging and I'll be noticed for playing well, as lame as that sounds.

I dunno, guys. Should I continue to try and get good with Zeratul? Will that pay off in Hero League and when I play with my casual buds in QM?
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Having mediv on your team is a loss waiting to happen.

at-least chromie shits out damage
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>>145848636
Zeratul is fine at any level.
Illidan can carry.
You should aim to master all heroes, having mains is another way saying you're a bad player in games like this.
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It's another 'Zeratul that doesn't know you can cancel VP at any time' episode. Why do so many people play heroes they are so shit with in ranked? Like come on, step up and stop being a faggot.
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>watching tracer with Get Stuffed 1-shot 2 squishies instantly
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>>145850058
It's bugged. It doubles the explosion.

Balanced hero gets more and more broken and overpowered every time I see and hear about her.
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>>145848476
hopefully never cause i don't want to be arsed to rotate bot every time i see her on the minimap. fuck that fucking hero
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>>145848638
it wouldnt be so if u dumb little bitches made use of my portals to gank on lanes, retreat, engage aggressively when enemy in bad position, etc. stupid fucks, hope u all die from C-A-N-C-E-R

when its a loss with medivh its probably because the medivh was good/mediocre and he was matched with 4 dumb fucktards who didnt make use of his portals because they cant even bother looking at a hero spotlight during release
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