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Dueling Network General #2202

Last thread: >>144918772

Dueling Network (High Res): http://www.duelingnetwork.com/?card_image_base=http://www.xtevenschannel.com/images/card-pics/
YGOPro: http://www.ygopro.co/download.aspx
http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/m/149030/find/unread/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project <- If you want high-res YGOPro pics.

● DN is a browser-based, manual Flash simulator.
● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
Both are free to play.

Useful Links:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Wiki with a wealth of information for players, new and old)
http://yugiohprices.com/ (Comprehensive Yu-Gi_Oh! stock market)
http://ygodr.blog.jp/ (OCG decklists)
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists (TCG decklists)
https://ygorganization.com/ - http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/ (TCG/OCG news sites)
http://yugioh.party/ (Hypergeometric/Probability calculator)

The Official /dng/ ruling test can be found here:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Structure Deck Yugi/Kaiba (June 18th)
●OCG: Invasion of Venom (July 9th)
●OCG: Booster SP: Destiny Soldiers (August 6th)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2016 (September 10, 2016)

●TCG: Rise of the True Dragons Structure Deck (July 8th)
●TCG: Dark Side of Dimensions Movie Pack (July 22nd)
●TCG: The Dark Illusion (August 5th)
●TCG: Dragons of Legend: Unleashed (August 19th)

BEFORE asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.

● Read the cards please.
● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● Remember to playtest and try suggestions before you trash them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice. You don't know everything.
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First for Ugly Loli.
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second for set 5
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>LGTSS

What is your ranking right now?

http://www.ygopro.co/ServerStatus/Ranking.aspx

>tfw you finally crack top 1000
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Here for devotion to your waifu making you better at card games, wanting to cum on TGU's stockings, Familiar-Possessed Lyna and Madolche rank 3 and pendulums fucking when
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>>145023842
>341
I should play more often.
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help
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>>145023842
I'm 966th right now, but I should be 833rd when the site updates.
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Reminder
>pot of greed is banned for being a free +1
>this gives you a +0 then lets you search for your +1 and you can reveal 3 of the same card or 2 of the same card and a tenacity.
>this is still at three
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>>145024015
>anime images

Shut up mexican retard.
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>>145024158
T-Thank you Tewart.
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>>145023842
How hard is it to get on this list?
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what's the new deck tiers????
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I want to cuddle this adorable little cutiepatootie.
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>>145023842
>Literally scrubbed down to around 3000 because my internet was shit and I kept d/cing matches
FUCK
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>>145024364
I want you to die...
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>>145024364
Lolis are for dicking
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>>145023842

If DNG isn't shit then we should all be on that top 1000 desu
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>>145024606
Top 500 at least.
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>>145023842
598

>>145024065
Bruh what are you trying to do? Grayydles don't mix that well with Phantom Knights. Maybe leave the Speedroids in but I've seen most people having success with the Kaiju variant.
Also your ratios are all screwy. You'd want 2 big Slime at least, and 3 Slime Jr. is a little much IMO, I think it'd be best at 2 as well.
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Reposting because I'm retarded

So once Strike is limited the next banlist is this card going to see more play again?
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>>145024650
No one from here is top 500 though
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>>145024410
>>145024460
>Doesn't like lolis
>>>/out/
>>>/sp/
>>>/co/
>>>/pol/
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>>145024410
But she's cute!
>>145024460
No.
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>>145024746
Here is one though >>145024027
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>>145024410
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>>145024742
>targets
>doesn't negate summons
>worse than effect veiler
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>>145024742
>targets
Probably not, sadly. Even Kozmo pilots can just dodge that shit.
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>>145024889
>only one dng player is top 500
Wow this place sucks
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We need to have generation YGOPRO games.
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>>145023842
Not even on the list..
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>>145024606
I was literally in the top 1000 a few threads ago, but scrubbed out thanks to shitty internet famiglia
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>>145024703
dante to mill graydles to use slime jr effect more easily, they're all level 3s, pk just to run the RUM spell. it's kind of clunky but i feel like it has potential
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>>145024364
We posting gusto decks?
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>>145024898
>>worse than effect veiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKq_OoMl4bQ
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>>145024757
>>145024897
Please refrain from bullying little Pilica.
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>>145024739
Could probably be arranged
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>>145024998
Now you know why this place is almost never right.
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>>145024998
I'm part of the top 500...
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>>145025252
How much would it cost? do any cute boys post here or am I going to have to start looking?
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>>145025261
Literally the only good players would be top 100, not top 500
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>>145025492
Are you saying there can't be 500+ good players in the world?
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>>145025608
Fuck, you made me sound stupid.
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>>145025370
Probably a lot considering the cost of making a specific cosplay outfit and not just generic schoolgirl clothes
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this is fucking stupid
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When will Harpies get a new xyz monster and their Deneb, Altair and Vega clone?
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>>145025784
Can't be that hard to get a short pink skirt and a sleeveless top.
I swear I'm straight
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>yfw you win thanks to T I M E

GGs lads, thanks for the games
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>>145026356
>I swear I'm straight
No you're not, Iron Core
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Here for petdeks, wanting to fug Lunalights and end phase shenanigans

>>145026356
It's not gay til the trap is nude
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>>145026307
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>>145026627
I'm not Iron core.

>>145026776
This guy gets it.
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>tfw you'll never have a personal trap maid
life is suffering
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>>145026872
>Never
Fuck you, I will have one. I don't care how long it takes or how much it costs.

I am legit straight, for serious
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>>145027010
>trap maid
Okay now it's gay
https://youtu.be/9ChXcJmXjBw
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>>145026835
I know, but lusting after my dick is his shtick
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>>145027129
Not naked, not gay. It's straight as long as the trap is wearing clothes.
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Is it gay hour?
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>>145027353
No, it's crossdressing hour.
it's always gay hour
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>>145027353
Not until the lewd Yuyaki crops
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>>145027545
>Yuyaki
Oops, phone

>>145026294
Don't you mean beautiful?
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>>145027545
>lewd Yuya
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>>145027353
Yes
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>drop yugioh
>drop /dng/
>drop anything konami related because fuck that company

>move to magic
>game is cool and balanced
>innovation, techs and good ideas are super rewarded
>get MONEY a prize rewards
>Wizards of the Coast aren't trying to cashgrab you at every instant and the whole tournament scene is cool as fuck
>No kevin tewards or julia

Today....

>return to /dng/ to see how's everyone is doing
>still blaming mexicans
>still posting the meme waifu shit
>threads are even slower than before
>gay posting
>more gay posting
>game is still unbalanced as fuck
>tripfags
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>>145027545
How lewd can we go before mods get involved?
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What does Silent deck look like?
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@145027908
heeeyyyyy
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>>145027908
Are we going to start the YGO vs Magic memes again?
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>>145027908
Who are you quoting?
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>>145027908
>game is cool and balanced
Good joke.
>Wizards of the Coast aren't trying to cashgrab you at every instant and the whole tournament scene is cool as fuck
Another good joke
>innovation, techs and good ideas are super rewarded
Yet another good joke.
>No kevin tewards or julia
Yeah, instead you have the kike overlord MaRo and fucks like Nagle and the tranny.
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>>145027947
This lewd?
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>>145028058

Pretty sure is the same faggot that used to spam that magic meme
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>>145028175
those are some big hands
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>>145028293
>magic meme
>not meme magic
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>>145028389
Meme magic is fine, magic meme is horrible.
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>>145028468
What's the difference?
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>>145028340
That's just perspective, anon.
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I need more lewds, I'm out.
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Please join the tag.
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Tag
16000
dng
vidya
Check sow locked rooms

Anybody Join
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>>145028586
Meme Magic is how we get cards we want to come out or have certain decks win tourneys
Nobody knows how to wield but we notice that it takes ironic shitposting or sarcastic jokes.
Magic Meme is just shitposting shilling MTG as a better card game that YGO when in reality, you're better off playing no TCGs at all since they're all shit and drain both your time and money in one way or another.
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>>145028708
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>>145028728
No.
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Why no one uses this card (set5.deks disregarded)?
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>>145028586
Magic meme is shilling an inferior card game, meme magic is what controls this card game here
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>mfw gay hour introduced me to Avatar! Trans!
>mfw chapter 12 will never release

Why even live?
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>>145028858
I use it, since my only traps are other solemns.
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>>145028858
Because it's shit.
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Wanna fug these Traptrixes.
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>>145029006
Silent Magician > Traptrixes
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I look up into this thread filled with waifus and traps and lewd gay pics and I think 1 thing to myself.
I fucking love being bisexual
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Alright /dng/, let's use some meme magic
>LV monsters get draw power
>LV monsters get draw power
>LV monsters get draw power
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>>145028858
>he's scolding the forbidden lance/chalice/scripture/dress girl since she touched the forbidden stuff
deepest lore
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>>145027184
It is my shtick, I'm p obsessed with this qt's parts.
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>>145029101
D R A G O N S get unbanned.
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>>145026294
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>>145029101
a new archetype featuring retrains of LV monsters and Chaos monsters isn't created and doesn't take over the metagame
a new archetype featuring retrains of LV monsters and Chaos monsters isn't created and doesn't take over the metagame
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>>145029165
And this is what happens after Solemn Strike where she gets punished for touching all the forbidden objects
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>>145029006
Traptrixes are not for fugging. They are for luring you and eating you.
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>>145029383
Will God ever forgive her?
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>Holding Arms and Holding Legs got printed
>this didn't
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>>145029506
Will he ever get his own monster card?
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>>145026294
I see nothing wrong here.
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>drop yugioh
>drop /dng/
>drop anything konami related because fuck that company

>move to magic
>game is cool and balanced
>innovation, techs and good ideas are super rewarded
>get MONEY a prize rewards
>Wizards of the Coast aren't trying to cashgrab you at every instant and the whole tournament scene is cool as fuck
>No kevin tewards or julia

Today....

>return to /dng/ to see how's everyone is doing
>still blaming mexicans
>still posting the meme waifu shit
>threads are even slower than before
>gay posting
>more gay posting
>game is still unbalanced as fuck
>tripfags
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Seriously, why is every Dark World so fucking retarded? I'm playing against this high-rated guy on DN, who thinks that Return of the Red-Eyes' effect works like Call of the Haunted and that I can't use it during his EP and use it again in my M1. Now I have to wait for an admin to come.

And incidentally, he uses DW. And it's not even the first time I come across a retarded DW player. Jesus.
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>>145029101
Wouldnt it be funny if they didn't hit Terrortop at all?
Am I doing it right?
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>>145029506
Marie the fallen one got forgiven so maybe.
>>145029580
>Solemn Judge
>cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects
>you do not pay the cost for "Solemn" counter trap cards
>while this card is face-up on the field, you can activate "Solemn" counter traps from your hand.
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>>145029383
>Forbidden Dress/Chalice/Lance are all Quickplays
DEEPEST LORE
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>>145025198
play brilliant fusion my negro
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>>145030037
The thieving bitch
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>>145023842
>200
I guess that makes me the highest ranked dng player. Feels good.
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>>145030414
>no visible panty lines
>that mound of venus
>tfw Silent Magician reveals her hips like this too.
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>page 8
Come on dng, don't give up hope yet!
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WE CLOSE TO REAL NIGGA HOURS.
JOIN THE FULL POWER TAG NIGGAS
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Masked angry romans investigate ominous moaning of negroes
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>>145032064
Wow, racist.
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>>145032002
Need 2 more people
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>>145032720
Need 1 more person.
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Please Join the tag
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>>145033923
I don't have any full power decks handy.
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>>145034021
Same.
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>>145032002
>>145032720
>>145033036
>>145033923
samefag
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>>145035309
kek
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>>145035309
No shit.
Tag Dead desu senpai
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>tfw finally got my playset of super rare Six Samurai United

Feels great to have a deck at max rarity.
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>>145029689
>The Yuzus have a bigger rack than Grace and Gloria

Tyler sisters may be flat as a board but they still make my dick hard.
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>>145036792
>Not making your dick hard BECAUSE they're flat as a board
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>>145036981

Sorry friend, never been a fan of DFC, Tyler sisters are the exception.
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>>145037238
>never been a fan of DFC
What are you, gay?
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>>145036529
Just max raritied my DracoPals but upstarts n terraformings are still expensive also
>only ultra solemn

Still feels good tho mayne we shiny now
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>>145037576
>tfw shiny Terra is still like $20
>start playing my Blue-Eyes build without it
Though I hardly draw into the field now, so I'm thinking of putting it back in. Honestly still need to start getting actual cards in high rarities.

>tfw this was my captcha
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An old decklist I've been shitting around with, although I think it may be dead with the Norden limit.
Any comments other than delete this?
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What should a Silent Knight deck run?
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>>145038136
Holy Knight?
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>>145038245
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>>145037238
>DFC
ISHYGDDT
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>>145024027
What's your username? I always see you posting that image hence why I'm curious
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>>145028073
and the most likely person from reddit and has no friends goes to
OH MY GOD ITS YOU
YES. YOU DID IT. YOU POSTED ENOUGH FORCED MEMES NO ONE REPLIED TO.

YOU DID IT. YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE FUCKING LOSER
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>>145039745
Thanks for the (You) tBh fAm :^) >u<
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>>145028821
this is just gay enough to gay
>>145027908
>slower than before
its dead hour dumb ass
>>145037238
BULLET IS PURE AND NEEDS A HUSBAND
>>145039745
nah thats mariomon, but since he's the only one who unironically shits out forced meme no one remembers or cares for its probably him
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Why does even OCG Korean and Asian English use TCG's flat magician girl artwork?
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>>145040232
Got me :^)
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I'm going to make exodia beatdown
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>>145024347
Anyone?
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ahahahaHAHAHA
Strike the Bloo-D

ahaha oh my fuck
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>>145040750
lol
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>>145023842
46th
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>>145040232
>this is just gay enough to gay
didja forget a word friend?
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Someone redpill me on Dark Magician.dek

What do I need? What are my threats? How bad is it of a deck?
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"wow what a nigger deck"

"wow"

"I'm not done with you yet"

"Hold your horses"

t. monarch scrub after losing to cubics in checkmate
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>>145042367
>What do I need?
3 DMs, 1/2 of its retrain, 3 Rod, 3 eternal soul, 2/3 navigation, 3 dark magical circle, 2 dark magic attack, 2/3 illusion magic, 1/2 eye of timaeus, 2 allure of darkness
summoner monk, prisma, gagaga magician, night's end sorcerer, tuning magician, staples

>What are my threats?
every remotely competent deck

>How bad is it of a deck?
T3 at best
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>>145042367
>What do I need?
3 of everything except Robe, 1 Kycoo and 2 Night's End Sorceror and maybe a DMoC
Add generic stunshit/secret village
>What are my threats?
Ophion set 4 ;), cards which destroy dark monsters like Mega Caius which will insta kill your deck if he hits DM with his effect, Twin Twister and Denko Sekka
> How bad is it of a deck?
It's basically an inferior version of spellbooks so it hard bricks but otherwise, it can fuck up metashit easily and is fun to play.
Would recommend to be tried at least once.
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>>145042797
Must have been a Trump supporter.
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Have some non Nico OCG duels to spark some discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVytTJtd4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L35SXLqMvps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr-A-PIti9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imDJySUbA4
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>>145042826
Wait, why night's end sorcerer and tuning magician?
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>>145043478
That D/D user should have done the Raiden+Crystal Wing play in place of doing Librarian.
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>>145044356
Does anyone even bother looking at topping decklists anymore? Because of Magician's Navigate come on
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>>145043478
Damn, those are some kickass sleeves, I wish Konami would import them.
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>>145024158
>opponent activates Pantheism, draws 2, banishes Pantheism, does this
What do you choose?
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>>145044598
>dark magician
>topping decklists
I was legitimately unaware this was a thing. I couldn't find any myself.
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>>145044706
Pantheism again, Tenacity always end with a Stormforth.
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>>145044706
He's telegraphing a drawn Prime/Return

Prob would give another Tenacity as he's most likely drawn at least 1
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>>145040421
Try this.
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>page 10
fuckin ded game
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Do it, just do it.
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Yesterday, you said tomorrow, so just do it.
Make your dreams come true, just do it.
Some people dream of success, well, you're gonna wake up and work hard at it.
Nothing is impossible.
You should get to the point where anyone else would quit, but you're not gonna stop there, no.
What are you waiting for?
Do it, just do it.
Yes you can, just do it.
If you're tired of starting over, stop giving up.
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So, /dng/, with the Generations Format coming, which decks are gonna be tier 1 and which decks will suck mad dick?
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>>145049073
Infernities in Xyz for sure.
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How did my nigga get powercreeped so hard that not even a deck that can shit out rank 8 uses it?
Fucking Alsei is seeing more play.

Also when the fuck is Konami going to release more support so we can Xyz summon it using Paladin of Felgrand?
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How do I go about making a ojama lockdown deck? pls help
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>>145040271
Because flat is justice
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>>145050137
on field:
submarineroid
ground collapse
vanity's emptiness / rivalry
cyber blader
activate ojama trio
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>>145049343
I use felgrand for weird petdecks that use traps and harpies dragon xyz n shit. Situational sure, but blue eyes has a very flexible extra deck
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I like Yang Zing. They have powerful synchro monsters and a cool ability to power-up their synchro monsters.
They can be made quite a bit faster and more proactive by adding Metalphosis.
But I still find them to be too slow or inconsistent. Too often I have a starting turn where the only thing for me to do is pop a yang zing with a metalphosis and search for a counter and float into another yang zing, set my cards and end. Jiaotu requires running a high monster count, but it almost feels like I'm not running a high enough monster count, because I don't draw enough monsters to discard for him.

Would you have any suggestions for making this less bad?
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>>145052857
Not enough metals
Bad ratios on the other zings
Consider adding e-tele, krebons and yuki
max that fucking combination you blithering idiot
3 baxia
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Does anyone have a decklist for the Blackwing Quasar deck?
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>>145049343
Felgrand is good, but most people have taken to favoring negation over protection. Felgrand protects himself, Harbinger protects your game board.
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>>145055225
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Arc-V ending in Spring 2017.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/archives/47756898.html

Are you going to miss Pendulum when it gets powercreeped in 6 months by the next mechanic?
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>>145055692

Felgrand negates too, you idiot
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>>145055776
So approximately how many episodes left?
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>>145056043
Probably 30 give or take a few
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>>145044706
Pantheism. Why give him options + deck thinning?
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>>145056243

didn't synchro arc get like 50?
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REDO AISUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>145055692
>Felgrand protects himself, Harbinger protects your game board.
You know Felgrand can negate the opponent's monsters too, right?
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>>145056725
Oh fug
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>>145056725
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>>145044706
Tenacity, because A) he may not have a Monarch, and getting free information about an ooponentt's hand is good, and B) if they only reveal ONE tenacity, chances are they already either have another or they want you to pick Pantheism.
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>>145056725
Red-Eyes Insight

Normal Spell

Send one "Red-Eyes" monster from your Hand or Deck to the Graveyard. Add one "Red-Eyes" Spell or Trap card from your deck to your hand except Red-Eyes Insight.
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>>145057005
Source: your ass.
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>>145056741
Yes, but he can't negate an activation, just one monster's effects on the field for one turn. It isn't quite as valuable.
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>>145056725
Confirmed by Org.

INOV-JP060 Red-Eyes Insight
Normal Spell Card
You can only activate 1 “Red-Eyes Insight” per turn.
(1) Send 1 “Red-Eyes” monster, except “Red-Eyes B. Chick” from your hand or Deck to the Graveyard; add 1 “Red-Eyes” Spell/Trap Card from your Deck to your hand.
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>>145057005

It doesn't search Cards of Red Jewel

T-thanks Konami
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>>145057083
>he doesn't know about The Organization
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>>145057245
Hououin Kyouma pls.
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>>145057245
I had checked it literally seconds before and apparently I missed it.

Anyway, this gives a huge boost to Red-Eyes since you can now search Fusion and fuel your grave forReturn of the Dragon Lord or Silver's Cry.
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What card would Dark Magician need to make it tier 1 like Blue-Eyes?
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>>145057165
IT'S GOOD

Now we just need a good boss monster.
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>>145057404
Dark Alternative Magician
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>>145057375
>playing the shitty fusion

It was shit last year and is still shit
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>>145057472
it outs kozmo ships???
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>>145057404
A card which set trap or spell cards from your grave or deck.
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>>145057458
Damn, this would be really good, too bad we got Magician of Black Illusion and Mahad instead.
>>145057509
but DM spells are quickplay, you'd have to wait a turn.
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>>145057404
Some sort of consistency improvement.
Actually good rank 7s.
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>>145057663
Including Dark Magic Circle?
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This deck has so much OTK potential, jesus christ. Anyone have their own builds to show how shitty mine is?
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>>145025230
>Gusto deck without the symphonic engine.
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>>145057735
pic related is really good, the newest one that came out is straight garbage tho.
>>145057761
ah forgot about that one, my bad
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What are Red Eyes missing now?
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>>145057881
A way to easily special summon Red-Eyes without a normal summon.
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>>145057103

>I-i did know guys i swear, it just doesn't count
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>>145057932
return of the Dragon Lords
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>>145057881
Some alternative fusion monsters.
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>>145057964
Anon get some sleep.
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Hosting Unlimited/Full-power Tag
YGOpro
Note /dng/
Pass vidya
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>>145058091
Take your own advice, you are the one saying stupid shit.
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>>145058265
Anon it is 5 AM, this is no time to be belligerent over literally nothing. Go to bed.
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>>145057804
Yeah, he's good. And so is red-eyes flare, big eye, and dracossack has its uses.
But those are the only 4 non-garbage options. Compare that to blue-eyes where they have 25 good extra deck options and optimising the extra deck requires some thought. In DM you can get away with not even running a full extra deck and the deck is still at full power.
They'd definitely benefit from more options.
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>>145057428
Hi
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I hope there are a few more good Red-Eyes cards in this set.

FUCK I NEED VJUMP NOWWWWWWWWW
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>>145058375
I agree, it needs more rank 7 spellcaster choices.
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>>145058367
>belligerent

just for poninting out your stupid comment? k
damn son, you really should take your own advice
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>>145057428
?????
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>>145058002
Not searchable.
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>>145058807
???

why do people use this meme, there's also silver's cry to bump it to 6 copies of revival.
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>>145056725
Good job for once Konami. Now keep it up and fix up the other legacy support.
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>>145057165
>Red-Eyes finally get a good search card
>but virtually all of it is shit anyways

Oh god am I laffin
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>>145058525
What does your deck look like for you to be able to access an extra deck like that?
pic related is mine
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Please join you can even play D R A G O N S.
>>145058165
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>>145059012
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>>145059012
my bad that's an old screenshot
this is what i got
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>>145057804
The newest one is not garbage, it was just given a win moar effect. Unless Dark Magician has an archetype searchable Solemn there will be no point in going into Oblivion over Ebon
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>>145060294
>2300 atk
it's useless
Also how is Oblivion a win more card? I genuinely want to know.
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>>145060549
>2100 ATK
ITS USELESS

It's win more because it lets you drop Spell and Traps from your hand, which you would've already used to get the materials for it, which would either lead to maming more or just dropping Solemns if you even open with them.
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>>145060819
difference between pic related and oblivion is that you used 2 resources for it's summon, whereas illusion can ss itself to be used as a material aside from it's eff to ss.
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>>145061048
Does Magician of Black Illusion special summon itself or do you have to use ANOTHER card to make it go off
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>>145061169
Shut up retard.
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>>145057404
Who wears the pants in that Monarch relationship?
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>>145061169
this is gonna be hard to explain but you're right to a certain point.
He needs another card to be special summoned, but it's not a card specifially for him, he goes off when you activate any card during opp's turn then you also get to ss him.
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>>145061369
You first.
>>145061396
You also need to be holding him.
You also need to make sure your set card is something that will advance your state or that can't be wasted by a Twin Twister. Not that generic in the end.
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>>145061570
it's still easier than the xyz, and he can be ss with magician's navigation
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>>145061686
Which requires holding Dark Magician. So now it takes two cards. So now it uses two resources.
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>>145061751
>So now it uses 2 recourses
No, it uses 2 if it's being summoned via THAT trap, it still only needs 1 unlike Oblivion.
Oblivion really is a bad card.
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>>145061851
And Black Illusion is also bad because of its requirement to summon it. Literally slow.
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>>145062085
No wtf he's ultimately easier to summon than oblivion and he can be used as fodder
I can't see why you're defending Oblivion lmao
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Who cares about all that gay shit, why are cloudians so frigging strong?
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>>145062663

who cares about what now?
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>>145062663
This.
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New to /dng/, why are there so may tripfags here and why are they even tolerated?
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>>145062839
>tolerated
nah, it's just dead hour
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>>145062746
Most of those post were literal samefags you fucking faggot.
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>>145062931

i don't know what you are talking about
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>>145062908
Nah, i'm not new today. Been here about a week and i've seen that le blue eyes trip almost daily and many more.

Why are you fucks allowed? It's not like this general us slow overall.
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>>145063174
we're not really allowed, we get a ton of hate, i guess since trips ignore it most people gave up
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>>145063330
Hmmm, fair enough. Thanks for the information.

I'm adding you all to my filter list now though. Fuck off cunts
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