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> Next Demo Day (Nine)
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-9
> Next Game Jam will be...
SPACE themed. Jam starts July 14th. You can start early.
If you want to collab read this http://pastebin.com/NEPv0pPC
> Waifu Jam finished, go play some games!
https://itch.io/jam/wj2016
Previous thread: >>144894384
>New /agdg/ Website (Still in beta)
http://tools.aggydaggy.com/#
Helpful Links: http://alloyed.github.io/agdg-links/
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/agdg/
> Chats
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgamedevcrew
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=vidyadev
> Previous Demo Days
http://pastebin.com/Qi63yBxd
> Previous Jams
http://pastebin.com/QwcSPdnx
> Engines
GameMaker: https://www.yoyogames.com/gamemaker
Godot: https://www.godotengine.org/
LÖVE: https://love2d.org/
UE4: https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4
Unity: https://unity3d.com/
> Models/art/textures/sprites
http://opengameart.org/
http://www.blender-models.com/
http://www.mayang.com/textures/
> Free audio
https://machinimasound.com/
http://freesound.org/browse/
http://incompetech.com/music/
http://freemusicarchive.org/
>>144976278
>CS+Gamedev masters degree
There's your problem then mate, if you go for a shitty degree of-course you're gonna be taught shitty habits. The university I went to (LIU) did honestly start with telling us that we shouldn't abuse patterns our structures they taught us everywhere, they have their place and time and a huge part of being a good programmer is knowing where that line is drawn. Can even remember a specific assignment i got "komplettering" (essentially you have to redo it) because I had implemented an command pattern which for the scope of the assignment was retarded.
Second for webdev discussion
>>144955009
>If you set up different small pages and sub forums, the already small /agdg/ community will be more devided. I love it here, since I can easily scroll trough everything.
Well you don't need to separate it like that.
What you can do is have posts be tagged. So for instance we'd have a single general where you post. But you can then add tags for each posts and the game post replies are also tagged with the game tag.
This would give you a neat collection of progress posts for a specific game. If there's posting ability in the gamespecific pages they can just be posted as normal general posts replying to the old progress posts for the game.Why are you always so negative about developing something cool? It's like there's no drive to make something new here in /agdg/ aside from webdev anon. There's literally people who think tripcodes would suffice as a collaboration/job board/request method.
>>144976927
3rd for anime
peter planix
Working on billboard textures. All that's left is to make them rotate around their center.
jjoyce jjoycemenn
For yesdevs who aren't making freeware:
How would you feel if your game was super popular, but most people get your game from pirating or getting refunds after 1hr 50 minutes of playtime?
Post game ideas for space jam!
pete clayemore
this is such a comfy desktop background.
Thanks agdg.
>>144974996
What pic is that?
eric klaustmenhaufferstietermenne
>>144977907
If you're looking at your wallpaper instead of devving you should kill yourself.
The page system is now mostly coded. Just a little further and I'll finally be able to get this thing back into gameplay again. Decided I'd redo the intro while I was at it to make it more character class specific. So far, it's not as efficient as the old system was - but it's a lot more flexible and pleasant to look at.
mathew cornhollow
Progress:
Game now has a web server that allows remote control of the game screen
If I put a password on it it will be useful for running a dedi server or st
>>144978068
doing both actually :3c
Not particularly well, but it's something
>>144977782
Perfectly happy.
I'd still be getting paid quite a solid sum, and I'd have made a name for myself.
I'd also be pretty convinced that anyone who only plays for 1:50min and then refunds it wasn't really that interested in my game.
frank mongol
>>144978396
>devving on linux
not going to make it
at least you don't have worst oreimo as 4chan mascot
>>144978396
>java
>>144978545
>windows cuck trying to school literally ANYONE
>>144977794
I'm planning a top down shooter where you can choose to either fight the bad guys, hunt for minerals and treasures or become a space pirate.
>>144978627
Oh right how could I forget all the great games developed on linux like, huh, uh, huhhhh
>>144978545
>he doesn't know the wonders of devving on linux
your loss desu
>>144978396
Try IntelliJ and Kotlin some time.
>>144978858
how's being microsoft's bitch working for you?
>>144977782
if a game is super popular like that, then chances are the dev is still making decent money from legal purchases
unless his game is a ridiculous price
>OS used during devving determines how good the game is
Love this meme.
>>144978960
How's your game coming along? Oh wait.
>>144978396
>sister
Are you the nun dev?
>>144979091
great, why are you asking?
What's the easiest way to generate a unique number-only ID that I can use for my entities?
>>144977113
Vad gick du då?
>There's your progblem mate
No It's a fucking shitty degree. You're being absolutely retarded if you assume that Civilingenör i spel och programmvaruutveckling var en dålig examen att ta. Problemet var inte att de inte var emot programmspråk/programming principle religiositet. Problemet var att de introducerade ett OOP för tidigt för dessa jävla knuttarna att fatta vad ett program är och gör. Hur fan kan du ens säga att Universitet lär en bättre än att vara självlärd när varenda kotte vet att de öppet uppmuntrar all typ av skit när det gäller programmeringsprinciper.
Jo. Såklart ifall du är en jävla idiot (vilket du verkar vara) så får du komplettera din skit kod. Vi programmerade med minnes och profilerings restriktioner som gjorde att det inte skulle vara rimligt att utnyttja OOP för mycket (virtuella metoder skulle sätta dig långt under målet ifall du inte krånglar så jävligt mycket). Men tro fan att ifall mitt universitet gjorde så, när de är (definitivt) mer prestandafokuserade än vafan man nu lär sig på en ren-datorvetenskapsutbildning att universitet i allmänhet skulle kunna lära folk programmering på ett bra sätt? Helt orimligt.
Nej jag är för arg för att skriva detta. Du är en idiot som fan tror att du kan säga skit om CS+Gamedevelopment. Jag vetefan vad du gick men du kan nog inte tolka det som normen. Och ifall din föreläsare råkade vara bra så ska du inte anta att det gäller universellt. Jag har fan lärt om en stor drös med elever på LTH som gick deras C++ kurs. De vetefan va de höll på med. Och ifall inte LTH har en rimlig standard för att skriva bra kod så tro fan att du kan komma här och snacka om hur bra universitet är. Det är ytterst onormalt att de faktiskt undviker principer väl nog.
>command pattern
Att du använder det ordet är mycket oroande. Låter ju som om du erkänner att du skriver skitdålig kod bara i din lilla brevning. Att du inte sa "deferred X" är ytterst oroande.
>>144977907
>tfw I keep fixing the missing pixels on the bottom left but them always come back to haunt me
>>144979219
No reason. But really, is there any particular reason why you're devving on linux? I don't get it.
>>144979175
yeah. I've accomplished basically nothing in the last 2 months trying to get a better job.
>pass phone interview, technical skills test, and first formal interview
>train wreck of a second formal interview
Now I'm returning to being a hopeless degenerate, and doing game dev because I can't afford vidya games.
>>144978860
>wonders of devving on linux
ElaborateI've tried devving on Linux and I don't see the charm at all.If you can't build a project on windows just as well you should just kill yourself/quit devving and apply for retard-bux
>>144979398
Don't forget the extra pixel above it.
>>144979242
EntityID++
>>144979242
Use a int counter and simply increment for each new entity
Keep track of dead entity ID's so you can reuse them later to prevent overflows
>>144979279
Back to /int/ m80. The only areas of 4chan where non-English is allowed: /int/, /jp/, and perhaps one other I can't think of.
>>144979421
Yes.
I do not like paying a scumbag company for a product I consider inferior, and my computer runs and has been running a GNU/Linux-based operating system for years. There's no reason why I would install Microsoft's abortion of a system on my machine, especially after hearing about their recent abuse of their own customers.
>>144979620
So literally no reason except "muh freedumb"
ok
>>144979453
While linux is generally a better programming environment, windows generally has better art and music tools.
I like to use linux because it's comfy as hell. I can use krita and aseprite for art, and I'm completely useless and will have to trade blowjobs for music, or use CC music. So linux works out for me.
>>144979620
windoze babies who have never ventured out of their safe spaces will never understand how easy it is to dev and learn to dev on linux.
I installed linux when I was 16, because I could not afford a compiler for windows and I wanted to program so much. I have never looked back.
>>144977180
I think if i started talking about posting and threads and boards on the site then it would kick off a distrustful shitstorm so I'm definitely staying far away from that.
Unless 4chan goes down for good for some reason.
>>144979698
So tell me, do you like being exploited, treated like an idiot, taken advantage of and having your data stolen and sold? Is this some kind of a Stockholm syndrome you have with microsoft?
>>144980026
It's worth it.
>>144980004
They're talking about it as if it was some kind of disadvantage instead of a huge boon. There's no better way to develop software than to do it on Linux.
>>144979242
>unique
Are they supposed to be reusable? That's harder.
Otherwise just assign an ever increasing integer to the entity. Sure, you can't have more than INT_MAX entities spawn in the game if you rely on the characteristics of that unique ID but if you avoid that and just let it overflow that's fine. Not that I think you will have a player reach INT_MAX during a playsession of your game (because you asked this question, no offense).
>>144979598
Yeah whatever. Fuck that guy though.
>>144979751
>While linux is generally a better programming environment
Ok, ELABORATE.
>linux works for me
Sure. It works. I'm not saying 'you must switch to windows and pay unessesarily' I'm just saying I don't see the charm. Linux has its fair share of shit as an OS and the 'benefits' of having automake doesn't really cut it. You can get cmake on windows.
It's true that because of the way linux has its standard places for .lib or whatever it's all neatly organized automatically. But it's such an incredibly minor convenience becuase you're gonna want to keep your project self-contained anyhow if you're developing with other people (teams, you generally keep your headers and libs in a project directory for ease of moving). So it's not really a point for Linux, its pretty moot.
>>144980021
Hiroshimoot is such a bad admin the site goes down regularly just after 11am and he doesn't even warn us. If that keeps going I'd very much enjoy an option.
>>144979279
Calm down mate, stop projecting, I presume you haven't been able to find proper work with that degree? But sure let me sink to your level of argument.
>I have a masters degree! That means I'm a civil engineer!
The fact that you don't understand the difference between högskoleingenjör and civilingenjör worries me.
>I weren't smart enough for a proper CS degree so I went for a meme degree instead!
The fact that you don't understand the difference between true CS and a shitty game-making degree that accepts anyone who essentially finished high-school worries me.
>I'm not smart enough to know that not everyone talks in technical terms all the time online!
The fact that you had a hard time understanding what I meant by command pattern worries me.
Personally I'm a real civic engineer in computer science seeing that I have a brain between my ears. Bet you went to some small university yes?
>>144977782
>getting refunds after 1hr 50 minutes of playtime
Players won't be able to finish my game in that amount of time, so if anyone is still playing after that point, it means they're having fun or they got caught in my skinner box. Paying customers aren't pirates so I'm just going to focus on keeping them happy/occupied.
>>144979453
>package managers
>terminal and cli program ecosystem is not an unusable hot mess
>customize the fuck out of the system, e.g. hotkeys for basic stuff like keyboard layouts
>>144979279Jäklar vilken pinne i röven du verkar ha då, genuint nyfiken med vad för jobb man kan få efter en sån utbildning. Så vad jobbar du med nu och hur är de fine med att jobba med någon med en som blir såhär arg på nätet? Du lär vara genuint läskig IRL sålänge du inte är kort vilket känns alltmer troligt
>>144979279
The fact that you don't know that this is an ENGLISH board worries me son, maybe you should go and cry somewhere else ey?
Please everyone just because this Swede is retarded doesn't mean all of us are.
>>144980802
Don't worry, my svéd friend.
>>144980325
Ok anon. Is 4chan ever goes down I'll pay for the hosting costs to keep a gamedev general board running on the site.
>>144970910
Nice work.
>>144978396
how do i get that cute waifu
>>144980689
>genuint nyfiken med vad för jobb man kan få efter en sån utbildning
Most jobs where you're supposed to know C++ or C and they give a shit about performance. Unlike this other guy who writes programs for the computer ether and has absolutely no demands on how well shit runs or how maintainable it is. All he has to do is write some garbage that that completes before ragnarök and produces the right result. Thus he can consider things like "command pattern" rather than deferred rendering or whatever he was doing (likely not rendering, hopefully not anything with any data-load).
>What do those who work with you think of you?
Always hard to know obviously. But I don't get mad at people for arbitrary reason. But when some retard pretends tha univeristy is the best source of knowledge in the universe and that self-taught people are problematic (while he himself show himself to be a lesser programmer). I get a little upset because my experience tells me it's more of the opposite. But sure, there's some selection bias. People who are self-taught make it or don't. None of the 'I did CS but suck at it' limbo.
>what do you work with
Currently working programming the DPS at a company that develops control systems for rökgasrening. Elfilter (interesting stuff).
But I'm a consultant.
>it's not gamedev
It pays (very very very) well. I do enjoy gamedev a lot, that's why it's a hobby.
>>144981231
use onee-chan and edit your available mascots.
>>144979421
Linux is great for deving
>>144981581
Fuck, didn't notice old thread was dead.
Reposting this.
>>144981510
>>144981431
Woaw okay stop tooting your own horn there mate.
He obviously mentioned the command pattern because if you actually studied CS you would know that there are times where there literately is no other way to go, or how would you do a system with operations you can later undo?
Not to mention that you claim to be a consultant(which means you are expendable as fuck), using c and c++ to program for low-end hardware applications? Whilst also claiming that c and c++ is quick? And thinking this is something to be proud of? Stop making up stories anon, and stop getting triggered so easily it makes people notice the lies easier.But yeah uni is overrated but stop being an asshat about it just because you weren't smart enough for a real degree man
Reposting some progress
>>144978396
>Devving in Java
>On Linux
I was experimenting in Java for a few months, but could not test the "code it once, run anywhere" aspect. Is it true?Will you share your wallpapers with us? The only /agdg/ related I have is the picture about the waifus from the recent jam, but the resolution is not monitor friendly.
>>144981431
>I use c and c++ to program hardware because its quick!
Okay anon you sure know a ton about programming, c is the quickest shit out there amirite LOL?
>>144981431
>I get alittle upset
>He is a lesser programmer because he hurt my feelings!
What he didn't even show any programming other than talking about a well known pattern as an example? But sure show some of your great work! We'll be waiting. (unless you where lying that is)
>>144980931
>reading the tiny text
>read "Mr. Applechoad"
>die laughing
>>144979279
Isn't people from that degree basicly the least employed of all cs degrees?
>>144980419
>högskoleingenjör
Idiot: https://www.bth.se/ingenjorsutbildningar/civilingenjor-i-spel-och-programvaruteknik/ (ignore the ugly nerds)
I even gave you the name. So yeah, you're an idiot.
>real CS vs gamemaking degree
Yeah I know exactly what real CS is. And it's not about programming. If you took some codemonkey courses that's fine. But don't pretend your opinions matters on how universities are in general.
>projecting
You don't even know what that means. I'm angry with you for misleading people about what university is like and how 'proper' people are there. There's a large variety between universities and
>shitty game-making degree
We had two game-making projects. First one required us to not us more than basic OS interfacing libraries like GLFW/GLEW or SFML (their recommendation). The second project required us to implement everything from the ground up and you got scored on a lot of different factors. It was a rather cool thing. I'm rather disappointed by the projects they're showing on the program page.
It's obviously not bad but there's been a clear decrease in quality.
I really liked the structure of those projects. They're sort of what I imagine /agdg/ collabs would be like if you took it seriously and worked for a few months.
And I went off on a tangent there but the point was it was all real software development rather than gameprogramming (as in gameplay code).
>The fact that you had a hard time understanding what I meant by command pattern worries me
No I assumed you were using the word as it's meant to be used. Command patterns is a very specific thing. It's deferred whatever under a very specific OOP constraint. And sure, that's problematic. You had to redo it (thank god). But the problem wasn't that. The problem was that you considered it OK at all in the first place. It's a word you should avoid because it makes you look retarded.
>>144982357
He has opinions that I disagree with.
Go back to watching anime nodev.
>>144977782
For pirating if I release it on steam only then it shouldn't be a problem, since I trust the userbase. And by that I mean that the amount of pirates don't matter since Steam has enough of a legitimate consumer base to support a good game regardless of how much it gets pirated.
As for refunds, I highly doubt if a game is even passable enough that you will get more than 10% refunds, let alone a game that gives players a legitimately good reason to keep playing past the 2 hour mark.
>>144982529
>>144982357
You said you had a masters degree, thats not a civil-engineering degree in Sweden, don't blame him for you misleeding him.
Lol so you where just blowing smoke then? No game, lying and rageing in the thread. At least i'm just a nodev and not a lying nodev.
>>144977782
For yesdevs who are making free software:
How does it feel that you're spending all your time on a complicated hobby and you'll never be reimbursed for it?
>>144982529
>>144982159
>Anon gets called out for lying about work and knowing nothing about how hardware programming works
>Anon thinks that ignoring it won't make people notice
I'm also interested in seeing some of your work if its so great.
>>144982112
i remember something that was posted here that was java. when i downloaded it there was an exe launcher but also a jar alongside and surprisingly it worked
it depends on the framework and libs used tho
>>144982529
>https://www.bth.se/ingenjorsutbildningar/civilingenjor-i-spel-och-programvaruteknik/
>Blekinge universitet
I told you guys he probably went to a small UNI and he literally weren't even in the top 7 universities in Sweden. Explains alot I guess but just makes it pointless to attack since you having so poor scores you had to settle for such a shitty degree in such a shitty place that you can't even find work is just sad man. Are you actually jobless or do you have a real job?
>>144982112
>but could not test the "code it once, run anywhere" aspect. Is it true?
Short answer: yes
Long answer : Maybe
as long as you don't do anything platform specific in java it will run the same on windows, OSX, and linux.
Having that said there's small little improvements you can do for each platform where you might want a build for each. One example would be packaging the JAR file you get from a java program as an EXE with a nice icon for windows.
I don't really have any other agdg walls unfortunately.
>>144981724
I've read your post when it was new and I was wondering about an answer. If you look at major devs, there are two kinds of patches usually:
- Content patch: these usually contain new features or alterations.
- Hot fix: these contain fixes for game breaking bugs, exploitations, you name it. So basically anything which ruins or could ruin the gaming experience.
So it's up to you to decide this. If you want to add some new feature, but you know you'll add a few more some time later, maybe wait for it and have one huge patch instead of releasing many smaller ones. However if you find something crucial, then fix it and put it out as soon as you can.
A nice new thing might make your players happy, but an annoying bug might make the whole experience unpleasant, which is not what you want, I suppose.
>>144982529
>Blekinge universitet
>Vettig utbildning
Pick one son. Genuinely impressed you trolled that dude so long.
>>144982009
>how would you do a system with operations you can later undo?
You can work fine in a deferred system, undoing shit is a piece of cake. But command patterns is a very specific concept which sucks ass and demonstrates clearly how he's bragging when he has nothing to back it up.
>>144982159
>c is the quickest shit
Ok anon you don't have to pretend to be multiple people. It doesn't exactly make you look any better to lose on all your pretend fronts.
But yeah. There's very few good options and right now any industry which gives a shit about performance does C/C++. There's a few embedded Java people, but I dunno. I avoid that. I can't imagine it works well.
Sure I'd gladly work in D or lots of other languages if it were plausible. But there's nobody who'd pay me as a D dev. There's just no way.
>>144977782
Well I don't know how I'm gonna release it but the piracy problem doesn't seem like a problem when the game is really popular. It'd be a problem if I couldn't really make games becuase of it.
>>144982752
>masters of science in engineering
Quite literally what the translation is. I guess maybe it's misleading? But given we're both in Sweden it should be pretty clear. I also told him the exact name of my education. And civil-engineering is in the name. So maybe be less lenient.
>>144982883
Lot of posts. I write long replies. Note how I'm always at 2k chars pretty much.
I mean really now. The intelligent content in your posts are far below the effort i put into the responses.
His post is literally a meme. I'm not gonna prioritize it.
>>144983078
Except it's the university which the goverment decided to fund extra much because it's a really good IT university. Anon you really know jack shit about our universities do you? It's not like they're all that different. They have their specialties. I'm pretty sure nobody would go to LIU if they actually cared about computers.
>>144982830
>hobby
>reimbursed for it
Anon do you know what a hobby is?
>>144983315
For enjoyment.
The only enjoyable part of game dev is seeing the end product come together.
>>144982112
>code it once, run anywhere
More like "write once run nowhere". Depending on your goals. It's obviously true that you're not gonna find a JVM that doesn't run your java code.
Does every computer have a JVM installed? No not really. Probably more people do now because of minecraft though.
>>144983219
>all this defensive posting
Yeah sure if you pretend to be multiple people you will have a stronger argument.
He didn't even go to Chalmers. I put Chalmers as my second and could have gone there but didn't (and thank god for that looking at their curriculum with more knowledge behind my eyes). Like, what the hell do you people think University studies here are anyway? Nobody serious gives a shit about what university you went to it's all about what you got to show for it.
This guy literally made a command pattern and pretends he's somehow someone you should listen to. That's just stupid.
>>144983226
>Anon getting trolled this hard by a guy samefagging
Whoever is samefagging this guy to rage so hard is only slightly less pathetic than the guy getting trolled, you can stop now. We all now that he hasn't actually programmed any fast embedded shit since he hasn't even mentioned LDDR's or any kind of PLG's, openly being proud of knowing about the D language as if it fast. You can quit now. We all know gamedev is a useless baby degree and that anon got mad because you called him out. Please stop shitting down our thread.
>>144983558
Exactly. So what does it matter if you make it free or paid?
>>144983226
>>144983219
>>144982883
>>144982752
>>144982529
>>144982357
>>144982159
>>144981431
>>144981042
This has to be some next level shitposting with a guy pretending to be not only one, but two retarded people. Kinda impressed.
>>144981724
>>144983205
If you want a more specific answer, then I say release it now. The controls were very annoying, and I could not name any other thing from your game which bothered me, so that's something I would release as fast as I can.
Other than this, on Itch.io, you just get a message on your feed that a given dev has updated his game. It's not like Steam or Battle.net where it doesn't even let you play the thing until you update it, and you have to manually set when and how you want to update things. What I want to say is that you will annoy no one if you update your game frequently.I've also asked it many times without an answer: do you have a high res version of the opening screen and about the screen which appears before and after each level? Those are some nice artworks, and I would like to have them as wallpapers.
>>144983681
If you -can- get paid, you may as well get paid, because >0 is better than 0.
That money can be reinvested in better dev tools (licenses, programs, even hiring people who are better than you at a certain area, like art) that allow you to gamedev better.
>>144982830
So far my strategy is making the game free until it gests slightly popular, then make a paid version with new content, and also a paid release on android and maybe ios. Still really cheap, so anyone can pay for it.
If it gets popular enought I could make a small kickstarter to have an slightier expensive physical release, people could get interested on having limited stuff like artwork and stuff like that with it. Worked for Kira kira star night.
I know I'm never becoming a millionaire, but maybe I could make a really small profit out of it.
>>144983205
Really good point there, thanks for your answer.
Guess I should release a small 'Hot fix patch' then, since the fixes I made are mostly for polishing the gameplay, and people will have a better experience with them, and later I could make another bigger update adding all the content I have in mind.
>>144983649
>I'm gonna continue hating on this one thing he said.
Just let it go dude he is just a troll who can't post source anymore.
I'm curious about the D language, never heard about it before. Is it even quicker than LADDER or?
>>144983668
>Implying I don't like to talk shit
Well anon. I have to say you're wrong. There's a lot of frustration involved with working with these people (me being a performance consultant, they being systems engineers that'd rather write everything in mathlab). It feels kinda good to be mad at someone for justifiable reasons.
>We all know gamedev is a useless baby degree and that anon got mad because you called him out.
Gamedev is a fine degree if you go to the right place and look at them thoroughly. Sure, when you say 'i went gamedev' that's just dumb. But I qualified it. By saying CS+Gamedev. I get the idea that maybe if you don't give a shit to look into that stuff a 'gamedev' education is just crap. There's tons of "learn unity" educations available. But I told the guy directly we write performance oriented code.
I don't think it was the best education imaginable, I don't think anyone worth their weight in salt can say that about any education they've taken. But it was pretty good. And actually being allowed to care about how programs run feels good. I don't think I could get that anywhere else. This guy certainly didn't get it.
>>144983849
>retarded people
No u.
>>144983996
>So far my strategy is making the game free until it gests slightly popular, then make a paid version with new content, and also a paid release on android and maybe ios. Still really cheap, so anyone can pay for it.
That's how Spelunky and Cave Story did it, so you might be onto something
...or you need to make your game underground. There are too many shared variables here to use the scientific method.
Just make it in a cave, just in case.
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to collab on winning Space Jam
>91 posts
>4 progress posts
WEW LADS
>>144984157
>Reminder to post with trip #rocket to collab on winning Space Jam
that's what they told the astronauts on the Challenger, and see what happened to them
>>144984226
Now it's 93, good job
Progress. Now the head...
>>144984157
>>144983996
As I heard it's not profitable to dev "buyable" things for mobiles. So having micro transactions or advertisements every now and then might be better in the long run. I do not like these solutions as a user, but since the mobile market is flooded with free stuff, people are less likely buy things on it. I would suggest to do some research on this subject before you really make up your mind.
A game where you're an astronaut on the Challenger
Reduced the growing animation down to 3 frames and removed that exclamation mark. also changed the camera to follow behind the player slowly instead of locking on immediately.
>>144983979
Thanks, that's what I'll do then,. will make a lot of testing these days and upload the update as soon as I see everything working perfectly.Haven't seen that qustion before, sorry about that. Right now the only bigger image I got is the girl's concept sketch (pic related), but I have been planning making exactly the pics you asked for, so I'll probably post them for you as soon as I'm done with them.
>>144984153
Yeah, there is a lot of variables playing here, so it's difficult to foresee exactly what will happen, but if you don't risk you will never know.
I made another vid on what happens(as for now) when he gets you:
https://youtu.be/BSotca_D_VE
>>144984678
That's actually a pretty good idea. It implies survival though
>>144984126
Don't take the trolls bait man. Only thing I can say is that you should calm your superiority complex next time, makes you sound ultra douchy especially when you don't refute these anons who seem to know what they talk about: >>144983668 >>144982159
>>144984126
>mathlab
>mathrix laboratory
You are not welcome to join Team Rocket
>>144984784
Nah, it's more artsy if you die.
>new
>try unity
>mostly struggle along implementing small features, most things of note are fucking difficult
>pick up GM:S
>learn about all sorts of concepts I didn't get close to touching in unity
It really is the best beginner engine.
>>144984463
Thanks for the advice, you have a good point there! I'll give a look into that too.
>>144984776
that's a proper spoook right there
>>144984917
I meant genre, like the player desperately trying to keep the crewmembers alive, sort of like playing Faster Than Light and getting your oxygen systems knocked out.
>>144984878
Disregard this, everyone is invited to join Team Rocket. Let's win Space Jam!
>>144984765
Thanks for that! Do you have a tumblr?
>>144984448
I like these anon what's the dimension?
>>144983668
>proud of the D language
No not particularly. It's just C++ with less bullshit.
>as if it's fast
It's a native-compiled language with nice features like not having to use intrinsics to get SIMD. (which I think would greatly assist in making people do it, given what I've seen). C++ just adds bullshit. 14 has been pretty OK. But it's really not like I can trust the commitee with anything. They're quite literally insane. You can look at any of their feature presentations (in the past anyway) and they simply do not care about the usage cases for the code 99% of the time.
>>144984014
>LADDER
>quicker than X
Not the same kind of stuff we're dealing with here. Of course a ASIC would be faster for anything. Or at least the same speed (but you'd have to program for some GPCPU that's pretty damn special then).
Pretty lame that you're trying to 'catch me out' when this isn't really in my field. I don't have to know about hardware-level programming at all to be a proper software optimizing guy. Especially with a background in games where we (with PC at least) program towards a rather wide range of machines.
>>144984810
I did both of them though. Come on. I've already said multiple times. I'm being detailed when answering their bullshit.
>>144984878
Ok what's this. I've been through this shit so many times on /agdg/ I demand an answer.
You read a very slim portion of a post and somehow make assumptions. The post was clearly stating that I don't like to work with these systems engineers who'd rather so matlab code. And this guy somehow assumes that has anything to do with me?
It's not new. You can post about anything and it's like they scan for words they understand and then 'ah, I could imagine what has been said around this word I understand' and they work from that assumption.
Maybe it's just bait that goes far above my head.
>>144985801
They're stolen from someone in /agdg/.
Team Rocket is the worst. Do not join Team Rocket. They will not win space jam.
top view animations are much harder for some reason
>>144984776
neat
why is unity so SHIT
if i were using whatever other engine i'd definitely be complaining just as hard about its limitations and flaws, but right now i'm using unity and it's SHIT
>>144986269
Really smooth! Nice work anon.
>>144986567
Just buy some features on the Unity asset store, that will surely improve your experience.
>>144985512
Not yet, but I'm thinking about making one too, both for having a devblog and for posting game related art.
>>144982009
(Sorry for shitting up the board now /agdg/, but they got me started)
This post. Bothers me especially. I'm literally asked to qualify myself and he complains about it. It's clear he's not the person I'm responding to.
It bothers me a lot. And he ALSO thinks that a command pattern is something you do _EVER_. What the fuck is this.
How many of you have had a job in your lives?
http://poal.me/4z4lp3
>>144986567
No you wouldn't mate.
When you use your own engine (or an open source engine that's sensibly designed). You won't find yourself complaining. You will enjoy working.
t. Engine dev.
A game where you steal pokemon
>>144987370
I love it, but it should be space themed somehow
>>144987370
>Pokemon MMO where you can throw pokeballs at opponents during trainerbattles
>leveling is about as quick as WC3 pokemon ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJk9FpCWLdU )
>set in space to avoid getting sued
>>144987584
COLLAB WHEN?
>>144986269
>top view animations are much harder for some reason
That's because perspective can get tricky, more so with organic forms.
>>144987637
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to join Team Rocket
>>144986984
>full time game dev
How'd you get your job? It doesn't seem like anyone knows how to get a game development job (and people pretend games aren't being made professionally).
>>144987163
>open source engine that's sensibly designed
Not him, but the only one I can think of is Godot. Is Godot really that good, or are there better free engines? Is there more programming/scripting than GameMaker or is it easier?
A game made of stolen /agdg/ assets
>>144988123
Godot is good, and it's growing. I'd pick it over Unity desu. Less bloat, and free.
I think of it as between GM:S and Unity, but free.
>>144988190
has this even ever happened before? Sometimes I'm afraid of posting too much progress because my pixel art might get stoled
>>144988190
But not just any assets, right? You guys want to steal rare, and valuable /agdg/ assets?
>>144988394
Start watermarking
>>144988394
hehehehehehehe
>>144988394
desu I'm at the stage where I don't even post progress here. The chances of someone giving constructive feedback are far, far lower than the chance of getting memed at by these steamchat faggots spending all day trying to force an unfunny meme.
>>144988326
Already have gamemaker game I'm working on, but I plan on moving to 3D after it's finished. Very iffy about Unity's payment system so I'll be giving Godot a look. When I get good at Godot, then I'll move up to Unreal.
>>144988394
I wouldn't worry about it ;^)
I think Team Rocket has what it takes to win Space Jam
>>144982015
>cleartext passwords
What's that? Twitter's database?
>>144986043
>You only read a slim amount of posts to make a ton of assumptions
>You just shat like 10 posts about a guy who's only sin was mentioning a famous pattern without ever telling anyone properly why that ment he was a bad programmer.
>>144988123
Go look for a new engine?
>Is there more programming/scripting than GameMaker or is it easier?
I've used Godot some. I haven't used gamemaker though. But I think the scene (node in non-godot speak)-based structure of the whole thing allows you to reuse things in a rather neat way considering how distanced it all is from programming. Also it's (from what error messages I've seen posted from gamemaker here) is far more helpful with the programming bits.
But look for gameengines and do some research.
Here's a start: https://github.com/showcases/game-engines
Thinking of joining team rocket desu
>>144988872
I shat on him for his bullshit about Universities.
The programming pattern was a tangent which is more like saying "I really love bongo sort". While it being plausible that you're serious.
>>144988559
It's a good way to refresh the game you are making in people's minds. Just look at how popular plokdev is
>>144988629
>>144988448
?
>>144988559
>taking yourself way too seriously: the game
>>144989087
Anon don't turn to crime. Join the police force and become a Jenny
>>144982015
Looking good anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QliQ0livbeQ
Just dropping this masterpiece here (the first song fits so well with Factorio if any of you guys play it)
>>144989145
>World famous pattern used everywhere is comparable to bongosort says the guy claiming to have a CS degree whilst still dodging the question why him during learning used it ones makes him a bad programmer an unsaid amount of years later
>>144988326
Man Godot is fucking weird, its gonna take me ages to learn the system well enough.
![amd-radeon-split-2015-09-10-03[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MY6t0nn.jpg "amd-radeon-split-2015-09-10-03[2]")
>>144989145
>bongo sort
Post progress
What do you think the number one biggest problem with Unity is?
>>144988394
I've already had people steal my fanart of other games and removed my sig and claim that they drew it. In fact, one person made a drawing/coloring tutorial of one of my linearts. They sketched out a basic shape, slightly cleaned it up, then in the next step it was my sketch, then they cleaned that up, then colored it.
It was flattering. Then some subscribers/followers ratted him out to the mods after telling me. I would have looked the other way because it's just fanart of characters I don't own and I don't mind people using my art to practice with, but I know a lot of other artists are very protective of their stuff. Some people won't think twice about taking your work if they think it looks good. Happens in gamedev too.
In fact now I'm worried about releasing a demo here in case someone takes my game, uploads it somewhere else, then sues me for infringing on their 'copyrights' or patents. Kind of scary tbqh, almost makes me want to just not even release the game at all. I don't have money to dump into our expensive court system, and it's super-dee-duper expensive just to start an LLC where I live. I don't even think my game's lifetime sales would ever be able to pay for the costs of having an LLC within its first year. It's just too much to hope for as an amateur indie dev. I don't get how other startups survive past their first year on a single indie pixel art sidescroller game. Are they just super lucky?
>>144989361
Rather that than be a living joke.
A bad one.
>>144988960
thanks, will check these out
>>144989735
Their over-reliance on the Asset store to make up for their failings, just like Bethesda do for modders.
Now that they actually have some competition it will hopefully get better.
>>144989735
Interface is clunky, relies on asset store, shady business practices, splash screen under $125 a month, you can't "own" it.
>>144989894
This is your game
>>144988806
At some point there'll be hashed passwords you have to use your botnet to crack, like using your spare CPU to either build up your library of hashes or mine BTC, so when you compromise a big database you'll be ready to immediately look up most of which passwords generate which hashes, I think thats how it works at least.
>>144989401
Thanks anon, if you like hacking games Hacknet is $5 right now
>>144989503
>World famous pattern
Exaggerating anon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_pattern
I've made it perfectly clear to anyone who knows what a command pattern is. I just wanted to see how long this could go on without understanding.
A command pattern is one of the obvious things that drop out when you blindly follow programming practices like OOP. A command pattern is the OOP-encapsulation approach to designing a deferred system. While other (sane) approaches would just pass a pointer to a pushbuffer or whatever you decided to use. A command buffer is one of those clear examples of what he was arguing against. So he's at the level where he's saying that a command buffer was inappropriate _for that one case_. While anyone with half a brain (that isn't brainwashed) should realize the issues with a command pattern.
SO yes. He's a verifiable retard because he defeated his own argument from the start. And nobody in the thread even caught it. I didn't have high hopes for collab. But now I'm hoping I just get artists.
>but you're a meanie, nobody will work with you
If they talk bs about my craft yes, yes I will be very mean indeed. If they don't I'm a pretty nice guy (I think).
>>144989963
No problem.See! I'm a nice guy right! Super nice.
>>144990083
This is yours.
>>144990157
Oh yeah I should probably buy it huh, a friend of mine also recommended it recently.
>>144990193
>command pattern
>what is a (first class) function
>>144990083
I would play this
>>144989819
I think its a lot harder for someone to steal a demo and get away with it for long, especially if you post progress on a personal site or somewhere like tumblr regularly, and if you credit yourself in the game somewhere.
>>144990219
S A V A G E
>>144990301
>doesn't get it
I can't be bothered anymore.
At least write more than a single sentence if you're trying to make a point.
>>144990193
>A command buffer is one of those clear examples of what he was arguing against
"The command pattern is a behavioral design pattern in which an object is used to encapsulate all information needed to perform an action"
So for example using a command buffer?
>>144990402
I just jumped in to say that :)
Are you taking issue with him saying that a pattern is something you actively try to use? I agree. Patterns are for describing code that has already been written, not for writing new code.
>>144990193
You do realise that having an int referring to an action is an implementation of the command pattern? Or an enum (Inb4 an enum is an integer I know calm your titties)
What assets have you been working on /agdg/? Let's see 'em!
>>144990219
God damn.
>>144990473
>"In object-oriented programming, the command pattern is a behavioral design pattern in which an object is used to encapsulate all information needed to perform an action or trigger an event at a later time."
You seem to not understand the point here.
He said Command pattern. THis specific OOP thing that's clunky and complete garbage. And just look at my post again for a complete explanation.
He said (>>144959629).
>""patterns" are overused by scriptkiddies who learnt programming themselves "
While using one of the dumbest patterns I know (though I avoid them so perhaps his knowledge goes far beyond me in stupid OOP practices).
Yes. We're 200 posts in soon and this argument isn't over. I didn't let it die because I hate his lie.
I'd consider him pretty rekt right now. If I do say so my self.
>>144990709
>Doesn't understand what a command pattern is still.
Doesn't surprise me that much. It'd be pretty dumb of you to _actually_ use a command pattern.
>>144990219
You win this round friend, but I'll be back, you'll see
>>144990837
"In object-oriented programming, the command pattern is a behavioral design pattern in which an object is used to encapsulate all information needed to perform an action or trigger an event at a later time"
An int representing an action fits this description ya know, learn 2 read mate.
>>144988326
>I'd pick it over Unity desu.
For 2D so would I, it's fantastic. Sadly for 3D it's just not quite there yet. I'm hoping their big 3D update later this year is good enough.
For 2D Godot is great, but for 3D I'd definitely go with UE4. It's much better than Unity in my4 painful years of professional useexperienceOur entire studio made the switch to UE4 recently
>>144990837
In object-oriented programming, the command pattern is a behavioral design pattern in which an object is used to encapsulate all information needed to perform an action or trigger an event"
So for example ints in a buffer representing later calls which you described in your last post as a-ok? It even states in the article you linked that an object doesn't have to be an object in an OOP sense.
>>144991069
Even for the typical bedroom dev project's scope?
What the fuck is up with Godot's 3DS support? Does it not exist anymore? Do I have to use Unity if I want to develop for the 3DS?
how is /quest/ working for you /agdg/? stole anything yet?
>>144991273
Doesn't matter. You will not make games for the 3DS.
>>144991214Honestly yes. The workflow is - again, this is all my opinion - much better than Unity. The entire experience is better as far as I'm concerned. The whole "UE4 is hard and you'll never finish a game with it" thing is one of the most idiotic agdg memes. I bet it was made up by some fanatical Unityfriend
>>144991069
I don't know, if you're not looking at making something with great/new looking graphics, I'd say the 3d is fine. If you are after the most capable 3d engine, I would agree that UE4 is the way to go. For the average indie developer I think Godot is sufficient.
Both are nicer than unity though, overall, and imo.
>>144991547C# in UE4 when
>>144991547
It was made up by someone who doesn't know C++ well and gave up
>>144991014
>an object is used to encapsulate all information needed
Ok. So you mean that you have a deferred action to take. It's easily represented by an int, so instead of inserting an int into your push buffer you construct an entire OOP scheme around the int (or enum). Because you do realize that if you just pass an int to a buffer which you passed by a pointer it's no longer OOP. Wow. How surprising right? A programming pattern that's OOP stops being an OOP programming pattern when you break OOP rules?
>>144991205
You don't understand OOP?
> ints in a buffer representing later calls
Yeah, if you're doing procedural programming that's fine. But it's not a command pattern (if we don't reject the definition given by Wikipedia, which fine go ahead and do that but i'm just not gonna deal with you).
But you're just gonna be mad because of cognitive dissonance (hopefully, if you're smart enough) and call me stupid without argument for why I suspect. It's what tends to happen. I'd like to see something different happen.
>>144991720
iirc there's been some movement towards that. I'm pretty sure I saw it once. All it takes is someone that wants it bad enough and knows his C++ well enough to implement a bridge between them
>>144991547
That isn't an AGDG meme, it's definitely used by Unity fanboys everywhere.
>>144991273
>unity on 3ds
Enjoy that 3 fps game with n64 graphics
Not like you'll even get a dev license in the first place
>>144991796
What are you even trying to argue anymore?
>>144991547
Yeah people praise Unity to the high heavens. They really shouldn't.
>>144991856
i'm a terrible programmer, i 1ma and i use ue4, it's definitely not a problem at all
my game's doing fine thank you
>>144991907
It's Object oriented stuff, don't worry. It's fairly inconsequential to most software development.
>>144991796
>HA the pattern becomes useful if you do this
So why are you saying its shit then?
Too much gabbing, not enough progress
>>144992146
>So why are you saying its shit then?
Because it's not the pattern anymore.
Clearly this discussion is over.
Make an edit to the wikipedia article and remove the "in object oriented programming". And see what happens.
Because you clearly think it's not object oriented programming.
>>144992125
Don't break his bubble guys he might sperg out again if you tell him how almost all relevant software today is OOP especially games. Let him believe he is some genius smarter than all hte big IT companies combined and he might stop shitting the thread down by feeding the trolls.
What's with the tripfags?
SPAAAAAAAAACE JAM
>>144992290
Dude stop feeding the trolls ruining the thread and post progress instead!
>>144992425
tfw that game is super terrible
>>144992232
>>144992332
>especially games
is debug progress progress?
How many games/prototypes did you drop or abandon? What made you do it?
>>144992586
Is that X: Rebirth?
The fact that that game was shit was the most disappointing thing that happened all year.
Have i posted this one before?3D artists please notice me
Should I just leave guys?
the shitposting is so depressing.
>>144992806
Thanks, I love it!
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to join the team that will win Space Jam.
>>144992806
Send an email to Microsoft and see if they can add your work as clipart to the next iteration of Office 365.
>>144992806
I love them. I wish I didn't suck at modeling. I would LOVE to help you with your AC clone, man.
SPAAAAAAAAACE JAM
>>144992781
Galaxy on Fire
>>144992660
Name 3 popular games not made using OOP in the last 5 years. I'll wait.
>>144977782
dude I just want people to play my damn games and have ahearty chuckle
>>144993045
I don't think I can name any that aren't using what could be construed as OOP in some way. OOP has some good uses in games, but not for game objects specifically.
I recognize this shitposting image, though, so I won't reply further.
>>144993002
Man Kurobasu was fucking dumb but I loved every minute of it. Great taste goog
>>144992987
i-it's notjustan AC clone ;-;
>>144993045
There are a dozen, but they cannot be named in the tongues of man, for the great wizard John Carmack created them while locked in his tower of black ivory to serve as modern day Rings of Solomon.
>>144993223
Even better!What artstyle do you have in mind? Would you like some textured low poly like pic related?
>>144993207
Wow this is the first time I shut down an anti-oop troll this quickly, usually you guys just don't reply.
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>>144992232
>>144993504
You shut me down? You can use some OOP without being a fully OOP cargo cultist.
>>144993576
Yeah chill. Going full OOP is retarded as well. A balance is what i'd personally consider best though, but i recognize that that is just an opinion.
>>144993707
A balance with what? OOP is just a thing, you either use it or you don't. It's also more or less just an amalgamation of various features, so you could be partially using it.
I'd always just write the code that works and then later reflect on it and say, yeah, that's kinda OOP-ish. Is that an important fact? No.
>>144993848
That's fine but how can I have an argument if there aren't sides? I literally have nothing better to do with my time
These spiders jumping attacks aren't working out, How should they attack instead?
Have a circular saw embedded in their skull or something?
>>144993416
fuck, that's lowpoly? that looks great dude
overall i want my game to look better than this: https://youtu.be/wt1LHFlBO6M?t=215
since i'm using UE4 it's all about having a good artstyle
i also posted a few of my character concepts yesterday, see pic related
overall i just want it to be colorful, cute and cartoony.
>>144993524
a-art is progress ok
>>144993210
>Man Kurobasu was fucking dumb
i disagree. kurobasu was smart in 2 key ways...
1) it started out making real sport strategies into satisfying plots by exaggerating the abilities into easily understandable "powers"
2) when it abused that and started becoming dumb power level bullshit they were smart enough to just pick a nice ending point and end it
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to join the team that will win Space Jam
>>144994026
nice kerbcrawler clone
>figure out the next brain busster i have to do in game
>really fucking tedious
>every time i open engine i just really don't want to
feelsbadman
>>144992425
SPAAAAACE JAM
>>144994453
just do it
>>144994453
Times like this make you want to work with a team, doesn't it?
Best 3d engine for a shit-ton of moving parts ala DF or project zomboid?
>>144994528
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE JAM
>tfw team rocket steals your assets
it kind of feels like attentionwill they actually make game?
>>144995229
Unironically, your own. Not that you have to write everything yourself, but you definitely don't want the pre-set "glue".
>>144995547
>will they actually make game?hahahaha, good one
>>144995229
No way in hell you can have a game like DF rendered in 3D
>>144993416
How do I into low poly characters? is there a good tutorial?
>>144996345
of course you canbut it'll be very slow
>>144996345
Nah, I think it would be possible. Toady is a self-proclaimed horrible programmer (DF runs on a single thread!)
>>144996369
Look for Blender Character Creation Series playlist on youtube.
>>144994026
hah, i told you about the spiderskull.
the game is supposed to be on VR, right?
how about a snake-tongue that strangles the MC?
>>144996345
you can render DF in isometric 3D no problem. it takes a lot of power to do it but it's completely feasible.
Post some space related assets! Who's excited for Space Jam!
>>144996957
Yeah its VR, I think i'd like to save the toungue strangulation to some bigger enemies, these will more be kind of "OMG THEYRE CRAWLING OUT OF THE WALLS" and having 10 of them strangling you would probably loose its spookiness quickly,I also will have enemies crawling onto you but those will be smaller than the walking-cherubs aka skull-crustacians
>>144994289
Nah theyre more some kind of skull-crustacean type of think i'd say.
not enough space progress ITT tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptef8e_ZGic
>>144997697
>>144997275
Are you having fun doing this? I don't get it.
>>144997819
We'll have fun winning space jam, yes
>>144997929
Will you stop shitposting after the Jam is over?
>>144997613
head reclining back and a syringe going out?
it the attack connects it makes movement more sluggish and obfusces a bit the camera.
if you accumulate too many stacks of this "poison" the camera acts as if the character takes a couple steps back and falls down and these things crawl onto you?
Rate my CTF map
"Gameplay" coming next post
>>144997697
this is realy funny with this
>>144997613
>>144998064
Disband Team Rocket after winning the Jam? Why would we do that?
Space jam was a mistake.
>>144998507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tq5vXk0wTk
>>144998558
looks lit af
are we getting raided by memesters because we're constantly on page 1?
>>144997697
It's not too late for you Camper Eric, turn away from your life of shitposting and stealing /agdg/ assets
>>144998558
that's actually a really cool idea
Done a few bit and pieces today.
Completed the UV map for the player model (will texture now).
Added an engine exhaust, bullet spawners on the ship.
Aiming reticule displays above the model and the asteroids take 3 hits to destroy which will also be configurable for any enemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKNXJqyknA
Going to create a simple bullet/laser model to replace the cube.
>>144998348
The map has no meaning for us if we don't know the gameplay/10
>>144998417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4
This one is also good with all skull-crustacean webms.
>>144998080
Thats actually also good for pacing, everything in VR is 10 times as intense. Having the skulls first walk/run to the player and then semi-slowly erecting theirsyringesinto the player would be freaky AND easily paced. Will probably have a rig ready tomorow with it. Thanks man.
>>144998558
I like the idea, but everything seems too fragile.
>leave thread
>people mistake polymoprhism for OOP
Eh, /dpt/ is fun than you guys anyway.
>>144999119
I can't stand /dpt/. There are too many shitposters, especially that "kys" faggot.
>>144986269
Indeed.
Its tricky perspective to work with.
Is this for overworld stuff or are you working on something different for now?
Or are you even Diest?
I'm lost.
I'm using GMS and my assets are low resolution and I'm just scaling up. However, I'm using the built in speed/direction/etc for movement (yes I know it is often better to write your own physics and I have done so in the past) and I'm just wondering, is there a way to alleviate the awkward feeling produced by blown up pixel art moving at subpixel rates?
>>144999783
>Scaling it up
Not to be a punk, but I really would implore you not to do this...
Anyways, rounding/ceiling/flooring the sprites x and y coordinates could help some. At the very least the sprite will always appear aligned to the pixel grid. Although that might not mean much with blown up art.
>>145000081
What is the alternative to making a game at low resolution and scaling it up? That seems to be what everyone does.
>>144999783
Your sprites are probably too small.
Status effects are now working correctly (almost, some tweaks are needed, like blood should come after freeze stops and there's small issue with state machine but other than they they are working right).
I'll be adding different death animations burning and freezing. When enemies burn to death, they will just collapse and their corpse will turn black and when frozen and hit, they will shatter into pieces. At least that's what I was thinking.
I've been thinking about the freeze effect, because it's OP right now. Do you think it would be better if it worked like critical hit and would just randomly be applied with certain weapons or should enemies be hit X amount of times with those kind of swords to apply it? Any other ideas?
Small update
>>145000204
Scale the viewport instead (simplest way is the view settings in the room editor), not the sprites themselves.
Unless thats what you meant.
>>144999783
Legit question. What is the advantage of writing your own physics in game maker. Is it better control or cost efficiency?
>>145000401
Kinda like the hit X amount of times idea desu. At the end of the day it wont be that different from having it random, except it will be predictable. Make it scale with attack speed if there is such a thing too.
Didn't have much time today, but I will do this shit tomorrow. Get ready for new AGDG banners/OP pics.
>>145000401
I like the idea of stacking freeze on something until a threshold. That way if it's an intentionally difficult enemy you still need to weave to win. And perhaps have it wear off before the enemy is dead.
>>145000770So close
>>145000514
Well, for games like platformers, shmups, etc it is easy to implement and you have more control over it. Secondly, if you're making a pixelshit game you avoid the problem I'm having, where you have movement by subpixel values (if you want to avoid that "problem" anyway).
>>145000629
Yeah every sword has their own attack speed variable. Some are faster and some are slower.
The fire effect on sword isnt still finished completely as it lacks particle effects. I have no idea how to spawn them at correct positions yet, but I think I'll come up with something.
>>145000828
I guess I'll go with stacking then. Enemies cant be damaged while they are frozen, currently, so it's not completely broken. I'm not sure what way I should handle this, but I think I'll go with threshold and then when enemy is frozen and you hit it, it will shatter to pieces as I find that really cool. The freezing weapons will be end game weapons and won't affect bosses (at least most of them).
>>144982015
You forget that SQL Servers have ports
>>145000976
Same guy.I barely into pixel shit but I've yet to run into that problem or at least have not noticed it. I have the viewport scaled up but not the actual sprites. I'm using the built in stuff so I'm hoping that it wont bite me later.
>>145001130
I think the shatter effect sounds choice. It sounds like you've got a good idea of how to tackle Freeze and not make it OP.
Part of me wants to save this for monday, but screw that.
I haven't accomplished much because of reasons.
I have implemented a taunt animation, a knock back animation, and actually getting knocked back.
Beyond that it now sorts draw order properly as well.
It's something.
>>145001452
Ah, well thats good then.
Anyways, yeah, rounding the x and y drawn sprite values will at least stop the bugouts from happening. The game still can suffer from jitteryness and thats partially based on the decimal values you give for your speed variables.
The solution might require values like 0.4, 0.3 etc rather than 0.5.
I animated a new move: the powerslide. It will hurt enemies as well as moving you forward since it's a special attack like the guitar uppercut is. Whether or not it will let you slide under blocks and be a core part of gameplay or just a way to find secrets or whatever I'm not sure yet, but c'mon what kind of self-respecting game where you use a guitar as a weapon doesn't have a powerslide?
>>145001589
this is amazing, the slut is not very pretty but fanart can fix her, so no worries, keep working on the game, like the punches
>>145002040
I'm so glad your game isn't dead now, it's unreal.
>job listed as entry-level
>3 years industry experience and 1 shipped title required
>>145002290
>make one indie game
>technically meet those requirements
What's the problem?
>>145002229
I meant, "I like the punches"
>>145002385
>Finish a game
You're in AGDG my dear lad.
>>145002040
I-no inspired?
>>145002229
>the slut is not very pretty
WOW RUDE
>but fanart can fix her, so no worries
this has actually been my plan all along.
I'm playing the long con.
This game is going to take a long time, but it will be worth it.
>>145002290
As if this should stop you from sending your portfolio/resume.
>>144998348
>>144998558
both players or teams can control every block?
if so, it will be pointless to throw the blocks, since you can just go ham and wreck the opponent base just like you did with yours
looks really fun tho, all those blocks on the ground making it difficult to walk is really nice.
>>145002290
>>145002385
>>145002613
Here's job listed as junior level I found not too long ago. It's like these people want industry veterans that just graduated college.
>>144992678
Yes, good job
persistence is fun.r-right guys?
>>145002040
I like it
>>145002276
>>145003217
Thanks anons! Hopefully it'l stay revived even if I'm a little slow.
>>145002497
It's not really inspired by any one thing, just rock in general. Hell I wasn't even thinking of I-no at all. Though I love Guilty GearElphelt best girlso sure why not
In gamemaker, is it possible to use the same exact switch with the same case variables at different times within the same step event? Or do I need to create a new switch with new cases?
Basically I have a system where I just want to copy the entire switch statement with its variables over to another part for later use, I don't want to create a brand new set of menus when I could just reuse the current system.
Whenever I disable the copy, everything works, but whenever I use the new switch, everything stops working. If I need to create a brand new system just to get a new menu to pop up, then no wonder why everyone hates UI. It's such a pain the ass. You can't reuse anything.
>>145002710
I thought about it, I weighted the pros and cons for this and came to the same conclusion as you.
The only problem with this solution is that you can't intercept opponent's projectiles mid-air (but this can be fixed by having a third color for some "power weapons" blocs both teams can use, also you can still block opponents projectiles by shielding yourself with a large block).
>>145003713
look into parents, idk wtf you're talking about really sounds like you're overcomplicating it.
>>145003183
this shit looks too nice
keep going
make this game as fun as it looks
>is there gonna be a story?there should be
>>145001589
Why would you wait until Monday? The Monday Recap is for making a recap of everything you've posted in the past week. Not to wait for and post only once.
It's looking good though, the animations are nice.
How do raep gaem?
Anyone wanna give me a quick rundown on what the fuck dependant typing is and how to use it practically, not some theory bullshit
>>145002613
This.
Experience requirements mean nothing if you can prove that you're good enough, or at bare minimum show potential and an eager attitude to learn.
>>145003713
Script?
>>145004105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVBck2Zngjo
>>145004024
>a recap of everything you've posted in the past week.
You mean I could have been reposting my progress from all week on every monday regardless?
I feel dumb.
I'm watching Berserk for the first time because my game has a medieval setting and I wanted some inspo/motivation.
Good choice so far.
>Want to make a game
>Don't care about programming
>Hobbies and skills don't help with game dev outside of concept work
>>145003947there will be
right now I'm focusing on getting the base mechanics going, then I'll start working on some sort of story. I have a vague idea of what I want it to be atm.
>>145004854
Just use an engine like gamemaker
>>145004194
>>145003935
Never mind, disregard this for now: >>145003713
I made a couple changes to test something and I found out that the reason why it 'doesn't work' is that it does work. The issue was the way the switch activated. Since the requirements happened at the exact same time that both the original and the copy of the switch happened, both switches got activated immediately. There wasn't enough time for the new switch to set the options up because I had already made my choice.
Basically the requirements for the first switch are different from the copy switch, one of them being to press a button. But as soon as those requirements are fulfilled the requirements for the copy immediately kick into gear, which just so happens that one of those requirements are to press the same button.
this:
gamepad_button_check
needs to be this:
gamepad_button_check_pressed
I'm stupid for spending the last two days on this.
>>145004854
COLLAB!
Use the trip #rocket to join team rocket
>>145004791
great choice. I'm watching Cowboy Bebop for space jam inspo
>>145004069
Elaborate
>>145004514
Of course anon! That's the reason for it.
What do you guys think of my design document for my newest project?
Reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbfCjkyjG4#t=8h12m14s
>>145004854
Welcome to Team Rocket, friend.
>>145004791
I was a showfag for such a long time. It's very good.
But I just borrowed Volume 1 of the manga from my friend recently, and holy shit, it's off the rails in terms of crazy shit right from the opening scene.
I would suggest watching through the anime first, and definitely picking up/downloading the manga right after that. I regret not doing so sooner
>>145005396
I'm not really a manga/anima fan
But Berserk is probably the only graphic novel/comic that I ever got emotionally invested in.
And by the time the golden age was over it fucking RUINED me.
Take that as a potential normalfags endorsement.
>>145005610
Berserk is something you can probably sell pretty well to GoTfags.
>>145005396
>mfw they got off the boat
>>145005219
Looks exactly like mine
Probably taking a break to focus on progress, and to get away from the namefags. I'll keep you guys updated on mondays most likely.
>>145004993
Nice! I wish I could've entered myself but I am just too focused on my current project. When I get a little tired of it I'll probably enter a jam.
>>145005396
I will do that, it's been something I always wanted to watch. I actually played the game on the dreamcast about 10 years ago or something and that was really fun (although I seem to remember it getting 1/10 in a review i read lol)
but yeah, cool aesthetic and so far very enjoyable.
>>144979398
How hard is it to do straight fucking lines?
>>145005396
>I would suggest watching through the anime first, and definitely picking up/downloading the manga right after that. I regret not doing so sooner
The anime was pretty lackluster compared to the source material. The big surprise is that they are airing a new season this summer
>>145004791
I can't stand watching bleak/dark fantasy. Everything is so hopeless I'm just waiting for everyone to die off in horrible messed up ways. And they can't just escape the atmosphere even when the show ends, that atmosphere just follows them around. It's like gothic architecture/style/monsters/super seriousness 24/7. Like there's no room to breathe at all, some bad shit is always about to happen. Didn't like Vampire Hunter D and I almost gave up on Jojo during it's first season.
Anytime vampires or gothic architecture are mentioned I usually just skip it. this is why I can't touch games like Castlevania or Dark Souls or dungeon crawlers/most roguelikes/roguelites. You're just trapped in that shitty castle or dungeon full of dead shit that want to kill you. They don't want me there, and I don't want to be there either, so why bother?
If more of these games had cute waifus, I'd play them though. But most of them have some depressing/bleak protagonists anyway, it's just not worth it. What do you guys get out of these games/media?
I never realized how hard it is to come up with an idle animation
>>145006209
There is something very satisfying to me about being the only dying light in a bleak universe. Also pretty enjoyable to be the darkness. Those universes are just cool to me I guess.
>>145005219
I have one notepad file strewn with notes for every single thing Im working on, not just games. Excerpt. Its a fucking mess.
I made this thing because I really like physical spears and arrows in games.
Does a roguelike with physically simulated combat sound interesting?
>>145006209
>If more of these games had cute waifus, I'd play them though.
>>145006037
You will see they will come back to haunt you sooner or later
Entities can now have their own particle emitters.
>>145006336
Stand in front of the mirror and experiment anon. The actual hard part doesn't come until later. Trying to make the animation loop and then trying to clean it up. Good luck trying to make keyframes for those motions when they're so much more subtle than walking or punching/kicking. Huge pain, and a lot of work. But the reward...
>>145006467
It wouldn't be a roguelike, not if you do it that way at least.
0-4 code
5-9 draw
Also, how achievable is a fighting game as a 1MA? 2D using GM:S.
>>145006941
>Also, how achievable is a fighting game as a 1MA?
Theoretically possible but I can't imagine it ever being worth it.
>>145006694
Well, a roguelike-like then, something like Binding of Isaac
>>145006941
keep in mind how many animations you have to make.
So many animations.
I looked at the sprite sheets for the old jojo fighting game, and then decided never to do a fighting game.
0-4 C++/SFML
5-9 Godot
>>145002290
Don't get discouraged by this, they always set the bar higher than necessary so only really motivated people apply.
Does anyone have a guide to make cute waifus?
How to handle rectangle-circle collision? Is it important for a breakout? Can i get away with bounding boxes only?
>>145008130
http://imgur.com/a/AjIjq
>>145007693
We should use an engine. Godot would be better.
And also we should steal all of our assets.
>>145003915
i think that's better, although when throwing the third color blocs, it will be like throwing more ammunition to the other team, unless it disappears after using it somehow.
and these blocs will be part of the environment? if so the same problem arise, one player goes ham and picks the third color blokc from the opponent's base and wrecks everything.
con you push people with the blocks? that will be nice, but just when throwing them, because i think you can imagine what will happen if every player grabs the larger block and just run to the other. seems like a lot of fun, but i'm having trouble thinking on the balance,and maybe the "competitive" side of your game, it might get tricky. I just can imagine myself playing and enjoying the physics, sabotaging my own base by wrecking everything and trying to build my own structure without caring whats happening on the game.
i don't feel motivation for capturing the flag.
>>145005224
That's hilarious, but honestly I never understand how people think like this. If you're so concerned about using others' ideas, you should just go live out in the wilderness alone without clothes or fire, or even sharp sticks.
There's not a single person in history of the earth that's made anything without massive help from others.
have side view now. takes me forever to do these.
>>145008324
I need a shower after reading that
>>145008324
Great link but too little info on drawing cute, puffy little loli pussies.
>>145008319
Just approximate the ball as a square.
>>145009384
I thought you were making a Yoshi's Island clone? It was looking pretty good, what made you change it?
>>145009950
Is it passable gameplay-wise?
I'm gonna do it guys, I'm gonna collab
>>145009956
I'm not changing it. This is a new project. I just want to make a small flash game in this perspective, then i'll get back to that one.
>>145010223
For collision testing, yeah, although you could make the interactions more interesting in a non-physical way. Just like how the ball interacts with the bat.
>>145010331
>I just want to make a small flash game in this perspective, then i'll get back to that one.
RIP
Is concept art progress?
>>145011034
No, because you posted the exact same thing yesterday.
>>145010395
>RIP
Reason for it is I got a partner so now I can do the 3D part of the game plus other stuff I figured would be too much work alone, but they are finishing up on another game, so while they finish, I want to make a tiny flash game.
>>145011083
Nah nigga, that shit was way less developed.
>>145011334
>way less developed
theres barely anything there, that looks like babies first photoshop picture
Working on some backgrounds for team rocket
We're gonna make it!
>learned how to use state machines for the first time
wow, this makes things a lot cleaner.
>stateful programming drugs another programmer
Oh well, not my problem
>>145011687
Nice!
Considered coloring it in?
>>145012024
State machine =/= mutable state
>>145009384
Kero Blaster prequel?
drew for the first time in close to a year
just a crude sketch in manga studio
I think it looks pretty decent atm but when see it in an hour from now it will probably look as bad as it looks to all of you.
I know this isn't too applicable to games and is more in the realm of concept art but I wanted to share something along the lines of progress
>>145011162
can i be your partner i'm new
Coroutines > state machines
>>145012652
Join team rocket
![v1e99oE3TIymrPWVlU2J_no_thanks_stock_photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1T0yKpx.jpg "v1e99oE3TIymrPWVlU2J no thanks stock photo[1]")
>>145012747
>memeroutines
So this is the power of progress??
>>145012847
>meme memes
Those are the worst memes.
>>145012847
What's wrong with coroutines?
>>145012932
give it a black background and you can submit it to space collab jam.
State machine guy here, why shouldn't I be using these?
>>145012652
sure give me good ideas
>>145013243
'subroutines' sounds cooler and more techy tbqh
>>145013424
Because you should be using coroutines instead.
>>145013341
maybe i'll do it!
>>145013548
But they're not the same
Progress
>>145013551
I'm using game maker tho.
>>145013813
Sucks to be you, I guess.
>>145013813
no excuses
>>145013918
yeah what a shit life i must have isnt it terrible that i'm a beginner using an engine to get friendly with game development and wasn't born shitting C++ into my diapers jesus christ i am such a failure
kill yourself m8 yea?
Subpixel movement retard guy here, I just realized what the guy who responded to me meant when he said to not upscale my stuff and just scale the viewport up. Naturally I feel like a retard but it is gratifying to be enlightened now lmao
Reminder to report and filter tripfag trolls.
>>145008319
http://yal.cc/rectangle-circle-intersection-test/
>>145014071
Holy shit anon.
>>145013664
Glad this one isn't dead, anon.
>>145014071
>being this unable to handle the banter
Are there games designed around the concept of banter?
>>145014118
thanks kind anon!
>>145014435
>my post was banter but yours is genuine rage
stand on your tiptoes maybe you will reach those straws
HAHAHA BANTER S M H T B H SENPAI LOL
>>145014674
>"Sucks to be you" is rage
lmaoooo
Progress
>>145014821
would play/10
>>145014767
>literally no reading comprehension
you were just being an edgy faggot, and as soon as anyone says anything about it you literally resort to U MAD LOL
anyway i'm gonna stop shitting up the thread now so post your reaction image and jack yourself off over your engine that you will never finish and the fact you got to posture on the internet today
>>145015009
He didn't even post it, I did.
>>145014821
>>145014935
It's baldurs gate.
>>145014935
Then you should buy Baldur's Gate
What's a variable? GM user here if that's important
>>145015339
prefer not to say
>>144978287
sauce
>>145015339
some thingie where you store values, it has a name so it doesn't matter how much what is inside changes you can still call it
It's something like that, very useful stuff
Team Rocket is the best thing to ever happen to /agdg/. They will actually make a game because they don't worry about the originality or ownership or blahblah of their assets/code
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxGo771vml0
>>145016489
What the fuck is this Team Rocket shit I keep hearing
Unity user here. Whats a program?
>>145016402
I'm using game maker tho.
>>144984920
>still no proper classes
:^(
No idea how to do idle animations for robots (or in general), looks like hes breathing. Also, how does the pompadour/giant black dick look from the front? Should I add some sort of highlight to show depth?
>>145016657
gamemaker has variables. What exactly are you asking for
>>145016643
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to collab with Team Rocket on Space Jam.
We already have a few assets
Anyone know this phenomenon?
The left is how the game is supposed to work.
The right is what happens when i take a step forward.
I dont even know what to call this, so i dont know how to loop it up.
Another example inc.
>>145016657
gamemaker has variables as well, just start deving and you will naturally going to need those hot variables to store values
>>145016868
It looks worse from the side
And a robot breathing is just funny, I don't think anyone will mind unless they're hardcore autists
Got some good progress past few days. Basic RPG elements in check, stat/level progression, working formulas (because fuck balance). Also got a nice death animation going, with hopefully generous death penalties. Permadeath sucks in my opinion.
Hopefully my art has gotten better as well. I think it at least looks a little less like dogshit
>>145016868
>That giant black box
I'll figure out how to use OBS in one of these progress posts some day
>>145017009
Probably multiplying your matrices in the wrong order.
>>145017009
I dont know if my shader is having an anurism when it comes to matrix math in fringe situation. I think it has to do with near - far plane clipping.
>>145017216
I do not think that is it, considering that it works 99% of the time.
If they were out of order it would "never" render correctly.
you guys are all pretty great
How's my astronaut?
>>145018042
Flat and a bit off balance, push those shapes more.
>>145018042
It's perfect, I love it!
>>145018042
needs some ambient occlusion
>>145013424
>>145013551
>Because you should be using coroutines instead.
Weird, when I had a game system running using coroutines a while back, I got a code review from a senior programmer and they suggested using a state machine instead. Why should I be using coroutines instead?
What's with all this shitposting, asset stealing and namefagging?
![Smug+anime+faces_95aba7_5762907[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QozeJRL.jpg "Smug+anime+faces 95aba7 5762907[1]")
>>145018480
Do you not know where you are?
>>145018480
People want to win Space Jam so they're collabing by using the trip #rocket to join the best team around
http://store.steampowered.com/app/428690/
>>145018480
Hopoo's studio was built on an Indian burial ground so we're eternally plagued by shitposters as punishment.
>>145018480
I'll take this over the shit we used to deal with any day
Oi the guy who suggested them having syringes still here?
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Filename unrelated.
>>145018653
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435460/
>>145018807
this is really nice, do you mind if I use similar creature design in a different game?
>>145018480
Some guy is really butthurt that the space jam is collab-based so he's really trying his best to shitpost
>>145018724
its native american you fuck.
>>145018992
Yes I own the trademark for headcrabs. I mean skull-crustaceans*****Of course I don't mind but i would love to see your progress here or email me [email protected]
>>145019163
Not in the country where I live. Stop oppressing me with your American culture shitlord.
>>145018446
Because state machines are "low level" whereas coroutines are more "high level".
In C#, coroutines literally compile to state machines.
>>145019335
This american-inidian beanbag chair your posting on is hosted in America, check your privilegeyou fuck.
>>145017129
Oh, and full screen works as well, although OBS obviously can't change resolution to reflect that
>>145018446
>>145019397
Point is, state machines are basically an implementation of coroutines and often it's much easier to write a system as a coroutine instead of a bunch of states.
Face topology is hell.
>mutable state as a legitimate programming technique
>>145019768
use a reference, than build from that
>>145019832
I like considering mutable state as an optimization/implementation detail.
>>145019832
*tips monad*
>>145019226
Cool I'll post it when I have the model done.
>>145020050
Guarantee that you don't have any idea what a monad is.
>>145020160
*tips Hindley-Milner type system*
>>145020261
Programming with immutable values isn't just a Haskell thing.
>>145020353
*tips hygienic macros*
So we're using Godot? Free, cross-platform, git-friendly?and a June 2016 game jam we can "borrow from"
>>145020353
If a value isn't mutable how do you change it?and if dont change it what do you do?
>>145020160
(not one of the previous guys)
Monads is one of those things I know i'll have to touch sooner or later but I'd rather wait until I put my brain through that shit. Heard so much variation in how hard it is and i'm scared to hell that i'll never get it.
>>145020685
>not using Xenko
*tips game in progress*
>>145020756
Don't overthink it. Save this for when you're ready to approach them. It's not as hard as you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhuHCtR3xq8
>>145020718
You don't change it. You recurse with a modified value. In certain cases, this can be optimized to mutation of the actual memory, but there's little value in modeling it as such.
>>145020756
Monads aren't hard or easy. It's an interface that applies to a lot of different things.
>>145020718
You replace it with a copy with the value changed
This is all the progress I've made in two days. Literally 20-30 minutes of drawing.
I don't think I'll be able to finish guys, I really wanted to this time but I just can't do it. I've never been able to finish anything in my life.
>a monad is a way to chain statements with processing between each statement, often called "a programmable semicolon"
wow, its fucking nothing
>>145021661
this looks really good, you should keep going.
REMEMBER TO BACKUP TO YOUR DROPBOX BROS
>>145021740
That's a terrible explanation, but monads are even more "meaningless" than that.
A monad is any functor with return and bind that satisfies the laws. Period.
>>145021740
The maybe monad would single handedly make Go a good language
>>145021661
That looks really cute and comfy, anon! Maybe try pushing the contrast a bit more but I like it!
Is there gonna be a cute little anime girl protagonist to go with it?
Keep it up, anon, I believe in you!
>>145021949
No.You raise a guild of cute anime adventurers and send them to their deaths.
>>145021661
Shit that's good. I'm jealous of you.
Trying to emulate Killer7's art style. Would appreciate some feedback on how you think it looks so far.
>>145021947
>mfw people praise Go's approach to errors
>>145022074
I'm actually pretty bad at art, but here is the secret I use. Picture related, even shitty art can look better if you use a good colour palette, and this is a really good one.
>>145022068
Oh shit, you gotta finish that, anon! 'Cause I wanna play it!
>>145022162
It's easily the worst thing about the language.I'm writing a Lisp interpreter in it and I feel like 50%+ of my code is if err != nil or if x, ok := c.(Type); ok shit
But it'll never be cleaned up because Rob "Führer" Pike enjoys sniffing his own farts
>>145021661
>did this in 20 minutes
what the fuck? that would take me like 2 hours.
>>145020718
you cast it to a different type, of course.
Progress
http://www.strawpoll.me/10444154
Working on some NPC concepts, anyone have ideas for a cute shopkeeper or other villagers?
>>145022378
I don't see any reason to use Go unless you're working at Google and it's being forced on you.
>>145022289
This is literally the problem I'm running into though. The closer I get to finishing it, the less it feels like you play the game.
It's a tamagochi combined with something like Sim Hospital.
On the tamagochi side, you hire adventurers, train them and look after them. Then send them off on adventures to try and not die.
On the Sim Hospital side, you have a guild hall and build it up with rooms and facilities to help you raise your adventurers.
The problem is, it just doesn't feel like there is any real gameplay involved. You just interact with it every now and then and just wait. I don't want to make one of those waiting games.
>>145022378
>Lisp interpreter
>doesn't have brackets
>>145021661
Donate your assets to Team Rocket :)
AlsoThank for the assets!
>>145022473
Why are you stealing sprites from my game Momodora 4?
>>145022532
>soul calibur nightmare girl
I approve.
>>145022631
You can have more I've made over the years if you want. Trust me, I got lots.
>>145022552
For a garbage collected language I prefer it over Java. I mean in Java you end up with new Thread(new Runnable() { void Run() { }}}); and that kind of garbage all the time, in Go it's just go func(). The go, defer and select keywords are basically what make the language for me. I don't know any other GC languages aside from Lua, Java, C# and Go and out of those I generally prefer Go desu.
>>145022686
They really look nice. Post anything you'd like.
>>145022772
Every language looks good when compared to Java...
>>145022636
It's their epic meme :^)
>>145022774
Lots of it's really old and doesn't look that good to be honest.
>>145022562
Maybe add a crafting system? The adventurers bring back resources you can use to create better items.
Or maybe you could directly control an adventurer on an adventure? A little dungeon delving thing, maybe.
Maybe you can adventure yourself to find recruit "special" adventurers from far off places?
If the guild grows big enough maybe you need surrounding facilities - a farm to provide food for the adventurers, blacksmith, inn. Eventually grows into a little village or city that you have to manage alongside your cute little adventurers?
Just some ideas, ganbatte anon-chan~
>>145023221
The game will have a crafting system. You'll have to use it to upgrade your guild hall and make items and gear for adventurers.
I was considering adding some kind of control for adventurers while on an adventure, but that would massively increase the scope of the game and if I can't finish it now, I sure couldn't finish it with all that extra.
Same applies to adventuring yourself.
Also the guild has those kind of facilities. You start off with a small building and make it bigger. Then you highlight areas and designate them as specific facilities. Then in that facility you buy and place furniture.
Making it into a full blown city sim would again add a ton more work.
>>145023482
Anyone have talks on level design in particular?
>>144998558
Looks neat but everything would just get demolished within 60 seconds. You need to design it as an actual game; physics toybox isn't game. Think about your fundamentals.
>>145024107
I don't think you should give up. It seems like a really nice idea and you have so much already made.
But don't give up! A lot of that looks really great, and you've made so much progress already.
>agdg slows down when there is a thread on /v/
Everytime. Why can't they leave us alone bros?
>>145024473
Oops I left my uniform on, I meant hehehe thanks for the free assets, sucker!
>>145021661
comfy af/10
would play
>implemented a bunch of stuff code-wise today
>nothing that would be visually impressive
>just want to make more progress
>tired as fuck
I even tried to practice drawing but i just can't do anything. At least I'm giving up due to actual effort rather than not even getting started though, things are improving.
>>145001589
i like your animations anon
also don't listen to the other anon, i think she's cute
>>145000401
I haven't been here in some time. Glad you're still working on this. Did you make it faster/boostier? Also did you make the screen space smaller or has it always been that small? Seems cool for 1 on 1 stuff but it might be a little cramped if you're facing multiple enemies.
I also really like the stacking/threshold idea for the freezing. You could possibly use a similar system for all the status effects.
For example, if you have a sword that has "Fire 1," and you hit a small enemy with it, it may ignite on every hit. If you hit a medium enemy with it, it may take 2 hits to ignite. Then if you have a sword with "Fire 2," it may ignite a medium enemy with one hit, but not a large enemy (but will stack faster to ignite a large enemy than "Fire 1").
For burning to death or shattering to pieces, you could just have that be a death animation (only) whenever an enemy dies while under that status. For the shattering, you could have an enemy take damage and "break" out of the freeze if you hit them while frozen but it's not enough to kill them.
Also higher numbers of "Fire" could burn for longer, while higher numbers of "Freeze" could keep an enemy frozen for longer, or things like that.
You could scale the numbers however. Rather than just "small, medium, big" you could have every enemy have different resistances, for example that knight guy could have FireResist4 but IceResist2, which is what your weapon status effect stats would be checked/stacked against. That way you could work in different weaknesses per enemy.
Just some ideas. Not sure if that's the kind of design you're going for. And sorry for the late reply. :)
>>145006568
your muzzle flash needs work
but it looks neat anon
>>145001589
I like the animations too but the stance looks stupid and her calves are weirdly thick.
>player walking around in a dungeon/maze
>cutscene to smug giggling old witch turning a crank
>dungeon begins to rotate
What do you guys think of this title page?
>>145021661
this is comfy
Wawawa
I failed
>>145027349
I think of Loomis.
>>145027349
looks like my art lol,
the painting on the character feel rushed, maybe you should fix the gaps, and try to work a bit on the ink line so it looks more continous, it's your title screen afterall.
Also your trees suck
>>145027349
Bad face, man hands, screwy perspective on right hand, pointless ribbon for pointless titilation
can't unsee beard
>>145021832
I always backup my game on mega+dropbox+giga.gg in an encrypted and password protected .rar. Unless all three services go down at the same time I doubt I'll ever lose my game.
>>145027349
You need practice.
>>145022562
You're missing breeding. That's the problem.
www.remproject.wordpress.com
Would anyone like to visit my website?
Can someone who knows OpenGL try and help me out.
I just added two more vertex attributes (jointWeights and jointIndices), and have setup the buffers and loaded the data in the same exact way that I have done with the previous attributes. In my vertex shader, if I try to access either of the two new attributes (such as by doing: int N = jointsWeights.x;) everything gets fucked up. The image on the left is what it looks like if I don't touch those attributes at all in the shader, and the right is what happens if I try to access them at all. I'm using OpenGL 3.2 and GLSL 1.5 if that helps.
How should I go about changing weapons on a 2d character? The character is going to have one weapon "type". Should I just draw over the sprites with each of the weapons? or should I maybe make the weapon a separate object somehow? Anyone done something similar?
I ask because I am going to have a lot of attack animations, and would like to do it the most efficient way possible.
>>145028214
Double check all your glVertexAttrib stuff
>Bombed an important job interview today
A-at least I still have gamedev. It's hugely different from my roguelike, but I implemented an ECS as described in boreal.aggydaggy.com, got a few simple things like the label system working, and mocked up a dialog system for my comfy shop simulator.
>>145028247
I'm kinda confused about your question but indeed each weapon needs to be its own item. As for your character, if the animation is different depending on the weapon he's using, you might have to make a second character object for that other particular weapon.
So yeah you could very well have, let's say, your whole Axe object being the axe + your character if the animations are different than your weaponless character sprite. Then in your code simply call the different sprites or something.
PS : I'm not even at that stage yet, I'm still working on tutorial prototypes but so far from what I've learned I'd say everything is possible so just do whatever feels more intuitive and best to you.
>>145027349
12 year old art/10
>>145028818
I've been looking this over for the last few days and I can't see anything wrong.
Am I missing something here? Or could the issue be somewhere else.
I've looked at the values in the jointIndices and weights arrays and they are the correct size and have good values.
>>145028247
>>145029060
After putting some more thoughts into it : other solution would be to include all the different animations/stances etc in a single stripe and calling them upon changing weapon etc.
I've got this really, really weird glitch with my pathfinding algorithm. It works totally fine 90% of the time, finding its way through simple mazes and stuff, but for some unknown reason it loses its shit and gets stuck when I try to move around a 1x3 wall. Fucking baffled as to why. Guess Ill have to make sure all walls are at least four blocks wide.
>>145029135
Yeah that looks pretty sensible (assuming you didn't forget to bind the buffer and VAO again before drawing). I would say use a debugger like CodeXL to check that the values that actually end up on the GPU are what you're expecting but I don't know if that works with Java or whichever language you're using.
>>145030023
>Fucking baffled as to why
Is your debug process print statements?
>>145030241
d-don't make fun of my methods
>>145030241
The log is giving me nothing useful. Just says that an infinite loop murders the process when it gets to the problem area.
>>145029135
Actually wait, I thought glBufferData wiped the buffer it wrote to. According to docs.gl "glBufferData and glNamedBufferData create a new data store for a buffer object. [...] While creating the new storage, any pre-existing data store is deleted."
But since you're saying this worked before I mean I guess it should still work. I've always put all the vertex data into a single array so I could put it all in with one glBufferData call, but there is also glMapBuffer and glBufferSubData (IIRC) to let you change parts of the buffer.
did the person who made the loli enslaving game ever finish the game?
>>145030676
Looking at a log is not debugging
progress
>>145031138
Well shit, what do you recommend?
>>145031408
using a debugger
>>145031408
Using a debugger where you can step through and check and set values
>pick a kind of game
>remove the thing that normally lets you surmount obstacles
>figure out a totally different mechanic for it
This is how VVVVVV was obviously made. "It's a platformer where you can't jump! Now, how do you get past enemies and over pits? Ooh, what if you fall up?" And the rest is history.
Any other games that clearly went this route?
>>145031532
Undermeme
GM user here. So is there a way to avoid jitter with subpixel movement with really low res stuff? Like I have a sprite just moving around on the screen and moving up/down/left/right is fine but diagonals produce a jitter. I'm using floor() when I draw the sprite.
>>145030892
He's still working on it. He rarely shows up because his webms got him banned more than once.
He has an entire thread for himself in the /agdg/ board on the other chan, but I heard he's looking for another place to post updates
>>145031532
>>145031671
So you're saying it's a good way to make a game that people like?
>>145031796
As good as any
>>145031532
fezz
>>145031532
Bionic commando.
>>145031723
jitter, as in screen-tearing? try turning on vertical sync + triple buffering in your graphics card's control panel. that usually stops mine. i have this constant tear that floats upward across the screen whenever the camera moves around. when it gets to the top, it starts from the bottom and floats back up again. turning on vsync with triple buffering makes it go away.
>>145031532
the witness
remove all gameplay and add mazes
>>145031793
Well that fucking sucks
>>145032267
No, jitter as in the sprite jumping back and forth between two coordinates that are right next to each other.
>>145031532
>Instead of jumping, let's make him plant a bomb!
>you can actually get hurt by your own bombs if get touched by the explosion!
>let's block his path with obstacles!
>how will he traverse the map? by blowing up the obstacles with bombs to clear the path!
>hey, let's add multiplayer!
And Bomberman was born.
>>145032658
That's entirely different seeing as Bomberman isn't remotely close to a platformer. If anything, it's closer to Zelda.
>>145032658
except you can jump in bomberman
>0-2 power ups
>3-5 enemies
>6-8 level switching
>9 play with cat
>>145031486
>>145031490
Ill use one of those next time it inevitably happens. Fixed this one by stumbling across the place where I was a McFucking Idiot.
>>145031532
There was a ton of games that had that mechanic before VVVVVV. Metal Storm on the NES coming to mind.
>>145031532
If you think about it a lot of games based their success on that. Take an already well known and successful kind of game and change the main mechanic into something totally different, but keeping the rest mostly the same.
>>145032919
best get, to be honest. I'm going to do that too now.
>>145032825
Only bomberman hero, pocket bomberman, and one special multiplayer map in super bomberman 2
>>145033007
You could jump in metal storm. And flipping after jumping was strongly encouraged
https://www.patreon.com/wingedcloud?ty=h
https://www.patreon.com/marblesyrup?ty=h
just fuck my shit up
>>145033245
I was petting my cat then he jumped away.
I don't think he wants to play right now.
>>145033469
Ehh
Their stuff seems nice
>>145032473
Why is this spaceship in particular posted here so often?
>>145033621
Mine ignored me and kept sleeping. Back to art I guess.
>>145031793
What's the other chan he uses?
>>145034373
>this thirsty for a shitty game that only has a omglol idea going for it
Could probably just make it yourself in an evening
I made a pretty simple behavior tree for friendly NPCs where they just pick a random location within 5m of their spawn location and walk to it, then wait a few seconds, and repeat. Friendly NPCs move at half speed of their data table entry. Eventually, when I make friendlies hostile after attacking them, they'll regain their original movement speed.
The pigs are static meshes right now, so if I want them to move I'd have to give them an NPC data table entry, and they wouldn't have animations. I was thinking about making them NPCs but giving them a billion HP.
>>145031532
>most devs nowadays try to balance their games fairly and give the player opportunities to learn the mechanics in a comfy environment and slowly up the difficulty so that they enjoy the challenge throughout the game!
>let's NOT do that!
I wanna be the Guy Gaiden
>>145034373
4+4chan
I don't think I can post the name, is it still filtered?
How do I make my Mario clone more interesting from a gameplay perspective?
>>145035032
IWBTG was a literal rip of some random 2ch meme game
>>145035492
(pick one) just add:
guns
open world
skinner box mechanics
rpg mechanics
weakness/resistance
smarter AI
portals
dynamically changing levels
physics
vehicles
destructable environments
voxels
>>145035384
i don't think they would do that to 8ch
>>145031532
>Let's take out all the action and mechanical difficulty from our games!
turn-based RPG is born
>>145035978
Turn-based RPGs predate real-time RPGs.
>>145035595
Thankfully it's Anonymous so you can say dumb shit like this eh?
>>145036045
>Let's add action and mechanical difficulty to our games!
real-time RPG is born
Does Substance automatically come with unreal engine 4?
>>145036180
I hope you aren't suggesting that real-time RPGs are categorically better than turn-based ones.
>>144977180
There's literally people who think collaborations here would be a good idea, despite extremely abysmal success rates here and everywhere else on the internet.
I guess they have to fail personally to figure it out, again and again as newfags come in.
Not even being a negative nancy, this shit is just so goddamn consistent it hurts to see new people willingly jumping into the abattoir.
>>145036460
What, the plugin? You just get it in the market, it's free.
My quadtree was fucking up, I don't know what was wrong with it. Under advice from /agdg/, I decided to remove it, and since my game is tile based, I split the world up into four separate quadrants. All of the platforms are put into a separate vector depending on which quadrant they're in, then I run collision checks on all the objects by checking which quadrant they're in and using that respective vector of platforms.
So it's basically a quadtree except slightly less accurate, and much more efficient since it actually works and uses less memory and CPU power.
Thanks /agdg/.
>want to make space jam game
>don't remember the first fucking thing about calculus
>>145036679
all things are more likely to fail than to succeed. that doesn't mean we shouldn't allow it to happen. we never know what may come out of it.
>>145036847
So make a 2d game or relearn calc.Or collab.
>>145036875
Right that's the very attitude that leads people ever into the collab quicksand.
If you look at the points of failure though, it's always the partners, and then the projects die.
At least as a one man army (or when paying employees to work on your game) your game doesn't die when someone ups and say "I don't feel like it anymore lol" or worse just completely drops contact with you.
>>145037048
it's more like anyone capable of producing something is already working on their own game, so the only people left who would do a game jam are ones incapable of producing anything
>>145036679
I'm only half-shitposting when I post about collabing as Team Rocket. I also think it's kind of a fun idea, to very transiently collab, and especially just making a shitty homage to /agdg/ by stealing and slightly altering assets from the thread.
I'm actually not sure my opinion on whether collabs could work here. I'm glad the anon stepped up to organize teams. It will be very interesting to see how that turns out. I hope something works out for using the website in a simple way that adds to the thread, rather than replace it.
I think a problem is that some anons don't realize just how casual a collab could be, that's also why I'm a little interested in doing like a 2-week #spacestationVN or whatever. So they imagine like collab necessarily leads to being BFF or signing a year contract or something. I think beginners collabing on a shitty game over a week would be a good idea, even.
>>145037048
as 1MA your game never gets made either. Most people aren't capable of putting on that many hats. I don't know why someone has to put in all that effort to stop something from happening.
Is using the key press event in GM considered taboo? I basically only use execute script or code block, but for the object that pauses it would be much simpler to just use the drag and drop event
>>145038038
Theres nothing wrong with using keyboard events if its for something nice and simple that doesn't require running before/after specific other tests/checks/general step-based code.
Just like theres nothing wrong with using Alarms for the same reasons.
>>145037136
>>145037229
Well yeah, some nuance to my claim: People who are capable generally have small finished things already. It's a much safer bet to collab if all parties involves have finished shit already on their own.
love shitlime text, learning curve is low enough to just do this sort of shit
>>145038895
>that fucking code
holy shit man
do you have a 200 line if statement controlling it all?
>>144998348
>>144998558
Lol, literally remaking "Toblo!"
http://games.digipen.edu/games/toblo#.V1pFtOQc3m0You aren't just using the source code and calling it your own, are you, Anon?
>>145039628
this is a new low for agdg
>>145039839
Team Rocket is behind this, I just know it
>>145039628
Why would you even do this?
team rocket is a cancer on this thread
they think its cute and quirky to straight up steal hard work and their annoying
lets start a hate campaign
every time one of them talks,we tell them to paper-cut their wrists
>>145040218
Put your uniform back on TR
>>145040040
AGDG Team Rocket is just like their animoo counterpart: They can't do shit.
So I wouldn't count on it.Notice how all the dogposting has stopped, and rocket posts have come flooding in?
I'm a failed computer scientist with a good handle on Python, basic understanding of C#, and uh, can make blocks rotate in Unity.
>can I into Team Rocket?
>>145041045
but can you download source code from the internet and pass it off as your own creation?
>>145041045
Reminder to post with trip #rocket to join the team that will win Space Jam!
>>145041172
Why do I feeLike this meme is to fool people into using a banned trip or something?
>>145041134
Can? Yes.
Will? No.
C'mon y'all, we can be shit together without being thieves who die alone.
>>145041172
>the team that will win Space Jam!
>will win Space Jam!
>win Space Jam!
inb4 they lose to Michael "One Piece" Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S9W9xZikkA
Team Rocket is really growing strong, many new members every day, it's quite impressive
>>145039314
sort of, there are actually 4 places
http://z.qt.cx/zkfizy.webm
>>145036049
Gee, Anon, you sure owned me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT_jTQtCnu0
>>145005219
Get into the Process Dashboard! http://www.processdash.com/
REV UP THAT PSP!!!!!!!!!!
On that note...
HEY /AGDG/ WHAT'S YOUR PSP LVL?
PSP 0.1 REPORTING IN
>>145041498
>we can be shit together without being thieves who die alone.
But that's kind of what we do. Well only because it's effectiveand funny. If you'd rather make original work that's on you bud!
https://github.com/agdg-rocket
I have to do some reading on how organizations work though
>be third-year CIS student
>wrote pages of design docs
>drew pages of concept art
>thinking i'm pretty well prepared
>downloaded unity
oh lord, fuck me
Two items that when combined basically turn you into DIO. First progress in a while so did something small to get back into it.
>>145042343
Hey I'm AzrayeL, just started watching the page.
Let me in?
Can anyone expand upon what this helpful anon said yesterday about handling sprites in GM?
I've been bruteforcing it, but any info is helpful
>>145042625
For a second there, I thought you redesigned your protag again.
>>145042625
oh shit sloweh, looking good!
I'm coming back!
TOMORROW
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>>145042549
>be CS graduate
>have no idea what the fuck a monad is
>or a Hindley-Milner type system
I mean, I can still make games so I guess it's okay.
>>145042760
is just his dad
>>145042825
Thanks. After a bit more progress I'll update the tumblr.
I had never heard of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles but holy fuck it is the coziest game ever. Really beautiful music too. The miasma gimmick is a sort of interesting mechanic.
>no gamecube, have to watch a LP
>no friends, couldn't play co-op even if I had it
Life is pain
>>145035024
I like your progress anon, keep it up. ThetempUI seems intrusive in the top left but I still sense a lot of comf from the first person RPG setting. I'm sure when you tackle AI, the comf-immersion will skyrocket even more
>>145043943
>Will never play 4 player co-op of Crystal Chronicles
>Never play 4 player co-op 4 swords adventures
Some of the few games I'd actually buy a HD remake of, if it included online at least.
>>145036504
He's probably so high up on Mt. Stupid he'd call chess or go 'easy.'
>lmao realtime chess so hard
>>145043943
>>145044154
Co-op games that aren't competitive always kind of annoyed me. I had friends and siblings to play with, but I hated having to rely on other people being there to have fun, and when you have bad players (or you're the bad player yourself) it can quickly become tedious or aggravating. Even when all four players were excellent, it all just seemed sort of rote.
I wasn't a fan of Gauntlet for the same reasons. Also, trying to play Legends on the N64 was hell when you had no memory card to save with.
That said, I thought Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime looked pretty cool. With online co-op, I might have even bought it.
>>145044254
That was great, what's that from?
>>145042682
I will tomorrow, I'm in my comfy time now. WELCOME ABOARD.you messed up the trip but it doesn't matter at all. I suspect you put ##rocket. Really the only purpose of the trip is 1) laffs, 2) scraping/identifying, 3) laffs
>>145044116
I'm thinking of something like Lords of Xulima eventually, but who knows what I'll get to that.
Got my new HUD working (no HP display on it yet, still figuring out how that should look. Any ideas welcome). But at least it tells you who you're controlling.
Would love some critique and comments
>>145042076
I knew the game you were referring to already mate. Crying about superficial similarities is kinda silly though.
>>145044871
I like the name scramble
>>145042625
TOKI WO TOMARE
KORAE
>>145044871
I also like the name scramble, and the art is nice and I like this type of mechanic a lot.
>>145044664
Blue Blazes
>>145044630
>focusing so much on good/bad playing
I can see why co-op games are no fun for you. Not taking a jab, everyone plays for different reasons, but I wouldn't think of non-competitive co-op games in these terms personally, for me it's more of an extension of interacting with eachother. But I haven't played much of them so maybe it would annoy me too, who knows. I played some doom/quake co-op and loved it, but there was a common goal in those. Even still, getting blown up by a friend's rocket (or blowing up someone accidentally) didn't bother me at all, it was more "lol oops my bad"
>picking nose
>push the finger a little further
>faint
what the fuck was that
is this normal
I have not coded in 2 months. How to back into coding and developing when you feel only despair?
>>145046072
Did you just discover some previously unknown Kung-Fu pressure point?
>>145046373
I just repeated it, and it happened again.
Weird. I hope it's not because I'm poking my brain or something? (I'm not very good with anatomy)
>>145046431
There is certain developmental issues that can have the brain be accessible from the nose. It also means you have a greatly increase risk of infections reaching the brain. Time for a doctors visit.
MAKING GAMES IS TOO HARD
>>145046237
Join Team Rocket and make/steal shit with other losers
>>145042734
I wrote that post. What are you having trouble with?
>>145046741
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHtime to get high and watch some anime
>>145046982
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NEED CODER TO SLAVE FOR MY IDEAS AND ART, PLEASE APPLY
NEED CUTE GF TO SLAVE FOR MY COCK AND CODE, PLEASE APPLY.
>>145047435
What is your idea? Post art.
NEED TO PROTECT THE WORLD FROM DEVASTATION, PLEASE APPLY
>>145047748
I'm in.
Why don't all the famous /agdg/ devs participate in /agdg/ stuff? The ones anons keep talking about, or sometimes they come in and make posts themselves and talk about their game or shitpost, but I never see them participate in Recap Monday, or any /agdg/ jams, or even demo days. Some of them don't even post webm progress even though they have multiple games on sale. What gives?
>>145047649
No, you'll steal them.
>>145047925
Hippo is too good for us dirty dogs, fampai.
>>145047939
Honestly anon, we just want to help
>>145047649
UE. It's a 3rd person 1 v 1 multiplayer sandbox (with a TWIST with rules/time/features) in a small building and the vast majority of code would be netcode/player control. I'll wait until I have a concept trailer put together before I actually try to get help.
>>145047939
I'm actually down to code slave for you but kys please
I have gameplay. Haven't gotten enemy fighters to work but player stuff is pretty much done.
>>145048313
that wasn't me that was a filthy imposter
>>145048309
this is me (pic is me, that's me, a real photo of me)
Hey guys you could try to hire the coders from that amorous game, they worked for fucking pennies
Working on a gladiator/training arena, what kind of stuff should I add to make it the ULTIMATE TRAINING ZONE OF DOOM?
>>145018807
i am here now. breddy good.
also i thought you were neetdev
>>145048656
hydraulic press
A game like pikmin
Not exactly progress, but since I wanted to take a break from code and anon liking her enought to want her as wallpaper motivated me I started working on this.
>>145049243
CUTE
>>145049243
Thanks, anon!
>>145050132
i am
>>145050132
But I am, 2D is for kids.
Trying to change behavior of the Lily Mace enemies to work better in 3D. Like the SNES game, you originally were supposed to shoot them, causing them to bounce higher to the point where you could duck under them. But since this is never telegraphed in-game and is a violation of common sense, doing that could result in a repeat of Sonic 3's barrel.
>>145050132
3D is just a meme
>>145050132
I don't want to
>>145050132
harder to steal 3D assets
>>144977113LIU represent.
>>145050132
Because I'm still on like part 11 of a 26 part Blender tutorial series
Does code ever give you food feelings? Like you get hungry for it and it almost feels like eating, to write it? I think it's the colors of the syntax highlighting
did whoever made this image even make a good game
>>145051232
Googum made that image, so do you find his games to be any good?
restricted rock
>>145051340
i'm not familiar enough with the local memeverse to know what he's made
>>145051845
They're pretty old, he made a whole set of them back when he used to pretend to make games.
>>145051919
i just want to know if that pic i posted is bullish or not.
>>145052458
bullshit*. i need to go to bed
>>145052458
It's just regurgitated shit everyone says.
1 & 2 are fine, but three is where he went full Googem.
>>145051845
>something about a school shooting
>straya social interation game where you move your eyes around depending on the situation
>restricted rock paper scissors, see Kaiji, multiplayer only. guess how it went.
>something about NA elections
i'm probably forgetting some, but i wouldn't exactly describe them as good examples of game design, they are flash tier games worth trying for around five minutes and that's it.
About the image, the best practice part is retarded, a lot of things are simply not adaptable into games. The rest of the image is pretty much obvious shit.
How do I reticulate my splines?
>>145052974
>a lot of things are simply not adaptable into games.
You can adapt just near anything into a video game.
Packet path finding is a go (Anyone know a good way to record in lossless webm? My current method makes shit all blurry)
woop woop
>>145053226
What's you game?
>>145053149
I should have said you can't build a game around.
Give me one thing you can build a game around that wouldn't just be X game genre.
>>145053226
>tfw you want to play this, but without the chromatic aberration and scanlines you'd dismiss it as "just another indie game"
>tfw you're that shallow
>>145053534
What?
I don't understand the question.
>>145053427
It's a virus-based infection spreading game
The packets won't actually be rainbow, they just are for the time being for the sake of clarity.
In the end, there's going to only be a few colors for packets:
White for just simulated traffic, blue for packets that you can inspect to get important information (sent from government facilities around the globe, they'll include stuff like techniques they're going to use to try and stop you. If you create a wall of controlled nodes around a facility, you can stop the communication), red packets for those spreading infection, etc.
They're also likely going to move far slower
>>145053538
The chromatic aberration and scanlines actually look extremely nice when the quality isn't tanked.
I'm also going to add an optional alternative look that's white/orange/grey and more modern, which should also look nice.
>>145053691
>virus-based
computer virus based*
>>145053226
africa sure has a lot of traffic
>>145053226
My dick is rock hard, anon. Since I've started devving, I look at games from a different perspective. Sometimes I just like to create mass groups in SC2 and send them all around the map to examine how their path finding algorithm might work.
Have you basically "just" implemented the A* algorithm, or is it your invention? It's beautiful.
>>145053832
It's like
Take A*
but
break it
that's what I implemented
(shit is fucked, a lot of packets can't pathfind, and I don't know what's wrong. I'm fixing it now, though)
Thanks, though! It does look very pretty, doesn't it
>>145053828
Heatmaps are next
There's also a lot of traffic in Russia's tundra for the same reason
>>145038895
ever heard of dynamic assignment?
You should look it up, because that's a lot of fucking work to manually type all that shit.
>>145053226
>Madagascar only has 1 node
PANIC
>>145053638
Adapting things from reality into a game without making said game part of a pre-existant genre is almost impossible.
New mechanics adapted from reality situations will most likely be SHIT, entertaining the player for less than the time taken to express them.
When younodevso hard yougo joggingat 4AM.
>>145054338
>1972
>Nah, Pong is the pinnacle of video games, looks like we're done
That's you.
>>145050481
Can you link it if it's a series you would recommend?
>>145042734
>>145046803
Not him but what's the advantage of that?
>>145054350
>not jogging at 4am
I should start my daily reminder again.
neat
I need to fix a bug where the chest shouldn't highlight unless you're within 5m of it (but enemies are targetable from much further out). Also, I just grabbed the highlight effect from a tutorial video. I want to tweak it to make the enemies glow a thin, solid red, and interactable glow orange or yellow. Maybe friendlies will glow green. But I don't think I want it pulsating.
Also, it should highlight the nearest targetable enemy even if your mouse isn't over them. One step at a time, though.
>>145054516
Prove me wrong then, instead of just using ad hominem.
Give me 1 (one) idea that's adaptable into a game that's not part of X genre.
>>145054550
This is what I'm using
http://www.gamefromscratch.com/page/Complete-Blender-Game-Art-Tutorial-From-zero-experience-to-2D-or-3D-game-ready-asset.aspx
And supplementing with tons of youtube videos.
>>145054847
>please idea guy for me
"no"
>>145054767
>you will never make a game that looks that pretty
Good luck, anon.
>>145054880
Thanks, will check it out.
>>145054968
>Inventing new mechanics from reality is a terrible advice
>no it' not
>prove it
>"no"
okay
>>145055264
How is it bad advice?
Especially in the age of VR and if MS gets their shit together, AR.
Literally hill yourself if you think all the genres we have now are it.
It just takes someone to have one dumb idea and implement it.
>>145055107
I actually need to replace almost all the foliage because they're from Epic's Kite video and the textures are 8k each, which results in about 80mb per asset. But I'm not worrying about that until I have to start considering how I want to distribute the demo. Maybe I can just downsize them to 1k or something like that and still have it look alright.
On the plus side, I fixed the distance bug.
>>145055441
hys
wew
nice argument m8
>>145053226
Congrats anon, thats coming along nicely
And then we play the game of you moving goal-posts and saying all the ideas are shit so they don't matter.
>>145056262
I wanna fuck the green one.
>>145055441
Trust me, i'm from the future.
The new tecnologies will change input and output given to games, not create new genres.My own opinions about the future aside, whatever happens in the future doesn't concern advice given with the current technologies. [/spoilers]
>>145036847
>calc
why
>>145039628
Yes, Toblo! is one of my favorite games of all time, and it saddens me that no one tried to push its concept to something greater, that's why I'm doing it or at least trying to.
Tho I think there will be enough differences in my game for it to not be a complete"Toblo!-clone".
> tfw look through abandoned project folder
> look at the webms saved
> remember this project
I'm so upset I dropped it.
Excuse the unfinished model.
Still offering to make animations (first person or mechanical) for any anon that needs them for the space jam.
>>145057284
Fuck you anon, I was looking forward to it.
Go back and finish it or I'm going to be angry.
>>145057284
>oh no, an old project, there's no way I could possibly resume work on it again
>>145056807
>why would the branch of mathematics specifically made to describe orbits be useful in a space game
>>145057402
oh, didn't think someone would do that
no need to be an ass tho
>>145057402
>every space related game must have orbits
"no"
>does he have a game
"no"
>>145057284
Can I have that waifu if you're not going to use it.
>im losing the argument, better spout WIYG
>>145050192
>But since this is never telegraphed in-game
Why don't you introduce an enemy on the other side that shoots at it and makes it jump noticeably higher?
>>145036847
calc is easy, it's just how much shit changes
>>145057284
I don't get it. It was only a month or so the last time you posted about it wasn't it? How can it just be dead?
Thinking of maybe doing an on-rails arcade-like shooter as my new project. Whipped up this shitty scene today to test it out to see if it has potential...I think I may flesh it out and run with it.
Oh yeah, download my game "Dega Madness" on the Android play store...it barely has any downloads because I don't know how to market for shit.
>>145058032
was it even anything to begin with? it's just an animation in an empty world shooting a projectile
>>145058124
anon... skybox isn't meant to be taken literally...
someone bakea new bread, I have to sleep
What's your game's final boss /agdg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3oqZ3V4QIY
>>145057654
That could work. I'll consider it, but I also like the way the enemy works now.
>>145058895
Feline Aids Entity
>>145058895
>click original video
>that was her own editing
okayyyy
Thread is autosage.
Ples make new one.
>>145058124
Why doesn't your skybox move with the player
Why isn't your skybox fullbright
If you did these two things, it would look like an actual night sky
>>145017129
looks like heartbeasts rpg tutorial.
>>145017129
>noisy as fuck floor tiles
>saturated as fuck everything
>pure black
>pure white
>mixed pixel resolutions
Oh shit nigga what are you doing?
>>145060479
the noise isn't even that bad, and it's a lot better than your edit.
>>145061959
>the noise isn't even that bad
Pic related.
It really is super terrible. But yeah, I should have just chosen a game that does it well rather than a lazy edit. A proper fix would require changing colors and shape work.
>>145062093
>Misusing mt.stupid
oh boy we're getting to new levels.
But it's really not.
>>145062309
Ah I see what your game is. Here you go sir.
>be wrong
>misuse a term for ignorance
>w-whers your game
alright
>>145062445
Amazing reading comprehension too¡
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