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After our Thousand Year Old Slumber, WE ARE FINALLY ALIVE AGAIN.

Holy shit /edg/ is back, now its more jaded then before. Come, join the fun

>whats new?
Frontier added 2.1, now trying patch it and contain the shitstorm

>good
new huge, large weapons are added
a lot of utility updates like bookmarks
docking radio chatter
AI bitch lost her shit
http://pastebin.com/ATxFSC9s

>bad
AI is broken, overpowered, BUT frontier removed the engineer stuff on AI
half of the missions are bugged
Bulk trade taxes
Frontier broke the PP, removed funzones. no more turreting
Brabo pulling the plug on ARCHON DELAINE

>ugly
RNGINEERS adds a new layer of grind to the game
AI is back to its old self
heatsinks are still fucking nerfed

Previous thread: >>144097836
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VISION
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>>144324783
When the skellingtrons are going back to their tomb?
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Reading all kind of discussions, pleas, demands, threads about Engineers it feels like people still don't try to understand it, maybe even just because they are going trough emotions, trying to force it to become what it's not. It happens all the time, but it is very visible with Engineers.

So my opinion seeing how it all works is this - Engineers is side activity (not main one, it is clearly not an mandatory upgrade path) which rewards having varied play style or "life" in ED universe.

It is system designed as anti-thesis of "consuming content". It is not really a content per se, it is mechanism which together with assets adds new gameplay, and thus content. It trades clear min/max paths with variations of outcomes. You get bonus...but you don't know what kind of bonus you get, and grinding for it is quite taunting task. Probability gates are there to avoid players get specific upgrade (as I said, not a mandatory upgrade path), but get upgrade nevertheless.

Why I like it? It doesn't force me into mandatory upgrade mill, yet it can give me boost in interesting ways. I also love collecting materials (I love looting, FD has done it right) and it gives some context and ideas how and why to do it.

Why some people might not like it? Well, min/maxers will definitely not like it, as it is clear anti-thesis of calculated paths towards upgrades, they most likely will struggle to understand concept of this. Pure PvP fans will most likely avoid Engineer mods in combative dogfights as they want equal standing. "Griefers" will loath it and love it in same time, but with buffed NPCs I think they will have more issues on their hands. People locking themselves in specific roles will try to understand why they should bother.

I think main point is - you don't. None of ED systems added are mandatory (same as roles - they arent, so why Engineer mods should be). However, if you hit it right with one of them, you are in treat.
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>>144324783
>Frontier broke the PP, removed funzones. no more turreting
they didnt remove funzones, they just bugged PP so there arent any
>the bugs do a better QA than FD
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>>144325123
Huh, what's that? A valid and well constructed post? Here? Unbeliveable!

Well said CMDR, have some rep o7
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>>144325171
You got it spot on cmdr o7

i wish i could rep you twice :^)
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>>144325171
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>>144324783

>AI is back to its old self

I don't believe this. I was mining in an Anaconda and making my way back to a station, and I continuously got interdicted by a FAS. My large and medium pulse lasers barely even scratched its fucking shields. It was able to knock out my shields in 3 seconds and took me down to 75% hull in the blink of an eye before I barely was able to bug out. Then I had to spend 10 minutes constantly submitting and jumping to SC to make it back to the station.

Fuck this game.
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>>144325810
Had a similar experience earlier.

Lies, goddamn lies.
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>>144325810
ultra memetic
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>>144325171
>It is system designed as anti-thesis of "consuming content"
>a game that releases content that you're not supposed to experience
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The necrons are BAWLD and FEWLISH if the think they can stand up to the EMPRAH'S SPESS MEHREENS
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You're adorable, anon.
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>>144326067
>>144326326
off yourself
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>>144325810
Do yourself a favor and just highwake out if you don't want to blow up the NPC chasing you.
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They rolling shit back or naw
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>>144326874

No shit, it's wonderful how this is the only option left. I didn't play for long but I'm guessing that the Anaconda got a nerf since I'm not seeing others having this issue in Vultures.
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Maia is going to be rip in pepperoni
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>tfw you will never get 80 class 3 multicanon bullets through your apartment window as a wake up call
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>>144327319
I'm in a vulture and I can USUALLY destroy whatever attacks me, unless its better than dangerous and is in dropship or better.
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>>144327345

Who the hell smuggles in open, anyway?
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>>144327542
me my good mate
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>>144327542
i smuggled for half a billion in open

open or bust
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>>144327542
I do, I never fucking see anyone anyway.
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>We're still alive

Holy shit I can't believe it. Keep it going, my dudes.
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>>144327542
Nobody ever interdicts you in open anyway because unless you're carrying over twenty million on your head, nobody bothers.
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>>144328352
bounty caps at 1 million so not even that is a reason.
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Have they updated the faction system?
Can I be pledged to Hudson and still get in good terms with anarchists and piratefags?
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>>144328126
*my dads

fxd
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>>144328126
/edg/ is eternal
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to who ever was asking about home system, did you end up finding my suggestion?
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Every update for which Fdevs askin to buy Horizons should be free. It's not content, it's fucking features that should be in full game. The only thing that makes sence for DLC is engeniers. Shit like land on planets, walk around your ship, creat a commander(I hope we can create qt grill) should be in the main game.
Just look at GTA Online R* is adding features ad content for Free because it should be free
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>>144329285
delkar is nice
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>>144329583
They shoul also start selling Shark cards.
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>followed all the dads at the other side of the galaxy
>making my way back to bubble
>still ~60000 ly from sol
>not wanting to suicide because of all that sweet exploration data
>then i read about the batshit AI

i guess i'll take my time then...
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>>144330123
Game already has microtransactions. And what do you care let the dads buy credits if that gives us free stuff then I have no problems with it
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>>144331536
indeed cmdr

+rep
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>>144331536
>microtransactions
do you know what this means?

i hate their market model as much as the next guy but a cosmetics shop is not a microtransaction system.
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WHY RANDOM FUCKS ARE SPAMMING MY INBOX WITH SALVAGE MISSIONS

MAKE IT STOP
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>>144316451

Everything is broken.
I was having bounties and shit disappear.
One time everything disappeared and I had a 5 million credit bounty put on me for no reason.
After getting interdicted around 45 times I eventually died. My bounties and fines went back to normal, then I visited a station and I ended up with a 3 million credit dormant bounty.

I can never visit Quince again.
Mostly because I uninstalled this shitheap game. It isnt going to get better, posting in this thread is the only fun thing left to do.

Posted this in the old thread like a moron.
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>>144332626
I've never experienced this, but I do have several dozen 'expired' mission offer messages that I can't seem to delete.
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holy shit how broken is this game?

>do imperial rank mission, become serf
>(btw why does my rank in the empire depend on me doing illegal shit? that's weird
>get a message about being promoted to squire
>still 66% serf

wat
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>>144328352

People will interdict you at CGs but that's about it.
I got interdicted by some fag in a Vulture at the last CG. I dont even know what he wanted. I asked him and he responded with "HEY WHATS UP". So I shot him.
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>>144332626
I still can't get my Sirius permit.

Before 2.1 the reputation progress with sirius corp was bugged never rising above friendly.
>2.1 comes out
>finally reach allied with them
>grab the permit mission
>details will follow via your inbox cmdr ;)
>still no details
>still no permit
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>>144331831
Whatever you want to call it. You can still buy cosmetics stuff in full priced game
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So now all of Sothis missions are like this, is it worth getting a type 9 and just loading up on these? Asp seems so shit now the cargo requirement is so high. Or would it be better getting a Python? I only have 150ish million at the moment.
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>>144333995
Wait, is that the same type of missions that robigo had? The ones that fail upon scanning?
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>>144334220
Nah these are just some delivery missions that pay as much as smuggling but with much higher cargo requirements it seems. Only ones I'm getting though.
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>>144334383
Shit, my man, grabbing my Python and heading out.
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>>144334220
Should mention that some missions spawn AI that interdict you, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was with smuggling. Only had 1 NPC try to interdict me out of 30ish missions.

Do you mind sharing your Python loadout?
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>>144334846
I haven't specced it for hauling yet.
Tinking of grabbing a t9 but don't want to loose money on hull tax.
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>>144333995
>8M for 88 units
not bad
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>>144330682
lets just hope they fixed the exploration data bug
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>>144335385
https://coriolis.io/outfit/type_9_heavy/04A7A6A5D6A4D6C---------07f7f604020301242f.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==?bn=type%209%20sothis%20hauler

https://coriolis.io/outfit/python/04A6A5A4D7A6D5C---------f6050504f50343242f.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Python%20hauler

ya, I'm struggling to decide what to take. Can afford both. The builds aren't fantastic but they let you take as much cargo as possible + enough fuel to make a non stop trip to and from the bubble.
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>>144335649
What does the bug do? Give you less money?
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>grinding for RNGineer materials
>get bored, decide to try a threat 2 USS since ive not done any yet
>3 condas
>message telling me to leave or else
>they open fire before i can finish reading it
>dead before my boost kicks in

dont know if it tops out at 4 or 5 but if threat 0 means theres nothing and 2 is 3 hostile anacondas whats at the top?
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>>144336851
after 2.1 people have been having their exploration data get wiped when they landed at a station. FD were working on a fix, dont know if its out yet but i havent heard any reports of it recently. but most people it would affect are probably still hiding from 2.1 outside the bubble
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>>144337448
do you have any links whatsoever to prove this is an actual thing?
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>>144337050
a capital ship

jumping into threat 5 never ends well.
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>>144333320
Stuck on the same shit as is everyone else
>>144333995
Damn, but remember that these missions often require medium ships as the target's dont have large pads.
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>>144337785
a couple /edg/elords mentioned it in the first post 2.1 thread

top link on google was this
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=254172
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>>144338401
I posted the outpost, because it was where I went and found them first. Went to the station, newholm station it's called iirc, in sothis and they had similar missions.
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>>144338412
seems it was fixed
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>>144338401
>>144338643
Oh and I should also add the missions I've been getting have only sent me to stations so far. No outposts in 40+ missions.
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>jumped by two wings of three cheating PP eagle AI
this shit is so broken
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>>144337050
I thought im a total scrub for only able to deal with threat 1 sources. I tried threat 2 but they'll always end up with me having to run
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Where does one go to grind for Fed rank?
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>>144325171
I am starting to believe Pecisk actually posts these
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>>144339265
17 draconis during starvation
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>>144338820
>jumped in and out four times
>happens every time
ok, what the fuck. why is braben cheesing so hard? it's literally not possible to deal with this many cheating AI
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>tfw no anaconda or corvette to pretend to be a starship captain in
i NEED IT
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anyone know of a hudson exploited or controlled system with resource sites?

preferably close to mehet since i was over there to do the community goal
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How hard is it to make completely randomized ship loadouts for NPC's? And have like the higher ranking the more chances of having A graded modules. Every time I engage any ship it feels like they all are A graded PLUS it feels like they use fixed hardpoints and they barely ever miss with lasers, mini-guns. NPC are OP as fuck, they should be difficult buy having competent piloting skills not OP modules and rediculous maneuverability.
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Is the slave trade alive in Fehu?
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>>144340331
I was there earlier and I was getting nothing. Might just be me, but I was there for over 45 minutes swapping between open and solo.
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>>144340539
If slave trade is kill then what's probably the best way to earn credits fast at this point? Trading?
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So is the AI broken or did the Anaconda get nerfed into oblivion?
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>>144340124
I know that HIP 93377 has a station near a ring with both hi and haz res. The same system where the turreting took place
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>>144340247
You'd be right. I was also curious about this, and by examining the relative speed differences between my A ranked vulture and vairous NPCs, DPS on shields, ect, I've learned that every single NPC spawned has at the very least A ranked thrusters, shields, power distributors, and power plants. Some NPCs have exhibited even higher statistics than are normally possible for players.

I've also discovered that harmless-competent tends to have C ranked weapons, competent-master tend to have B ranked weapons, and master-elite tend to have A ranked weapons. Some elite NPCs have exhibited MUCH higher dps on their weapons than what should be possible.

Note that this is merely a tendancy. You CAN get a harmless NPC with a hypothetical 'S' ranked weapon (meaning doing more than should be possible), with a bad RNG roll.

NPCs also will almost ALWAYS use fixed weapons with a pseudo-aimbot. They will essentially never miss you unless you can turn out of their firing arc faster than their ship can correct it.

They also ignore heat accumulated from your weapon damage and any SCBs they use.

In short: NPCs cheat like bastards, more than is readily apparent.
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>>144340661
Fuck knows dude, I've been grinding whatever cargo delivery missions I can fit into my Asp at Sothis. They pay the same as smuggling, but it seems like you have to have a much bigger cargo hold for a lot of them, see >>144333995

But, like I said, it might just be me in regards to Fehu, maybe RNG just fucked me over with mission generation.
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>>144341007
>used to do long range smuggling in my asp
>an npc eagle would somehow be able to make the same jumps as my asp, and would follow me from system to system

the npc's have always cheated, this is not new. 2.1 just made it all the more obvious.
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Anyone wanna coop just started a new profile
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>>144339765
once multi-crew comes in you can be my first mate, anon

you can even sleep in the captains quarters with me if you want
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>>144341758
>coop
Fuck that m8 I I could transfer you 100m I would just to save you your time
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>>144342196

>commander creator and multicrew comes out
>thread gets shitposted into oblivion by waifufaggots
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>>144342221
But I want to play the game 4 fun :DDDDD
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>>144342445
>Aisling copilot
>all the lewdposting and pastebins to come
can't wait
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whats the best ERP location?
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>>144343373
hutton orbital
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>>144343373
eravate
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>>144342196
Delicious
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to any /edg/elords looking to group up

how does rotanev system sound? high tech refinery, surrounded by delanie territory, not too close to autismland but not too far

we could even make a minor faction
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>>144343373
everywhere, FD fucks everyone
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>>144343029
>>144343373

I've already watched /ss13g/ descend into a waifu trainwreck of a general that barely discusses the game. I'm not doing it again.
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>>144343373
All the bitches love Sag A, as it reminds them of their own cooters, black sucking holes of despair.
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>>144341007
Just had a Python spamming SCBs for a minute while shooting double PACs.

Also, fuckers are hellbent on ramming you.
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>>144342445
>waifufaggots
>all females in the game look like geriatric meth addicts
yeah nah
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>>144345162
we will be sharing sliders soon enough
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Just started playing this again after a few months. Have SCBs been nerfed into oblivion or something? Mine don't seem to do anything (not even exaggerating).
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Ran out of fuel stranded send help pls at Altai sector lc-v b2-4 system
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>>144346010
ignore ship, check SCB stats
http://edshipyard.com/#/L=70Y,,2-AABkAA8cAA729s,7nC7le7k47iW7gy7fO7dq7cG7ck
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>>144346012
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>>144346264
Pls help
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>>144346415
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>>144346557
Why?
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i'll drop 720t painite to the guys that kills
>>144346012
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>>144346628
fly safe CMDR
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This general is rude as he*k
This is why Reddit so much better
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>>144346912
b8
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>>144346973

Plesick or whatever his name was trying out a new shtick.
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>>144346012
>>144346415
Sent ;)
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>>144346912
listen you faggot, if you don't like 4chan or the way we act around here maybe you should head right on back to your gay reddit and suck a fucking dick
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>>144347421
Stop being rude?????
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>>144347513
No????
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>>144347421
you cant talk to my wifes son like that, apologise
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>>144347660
ya you tell him cmdr!

+rep
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>>144347421
o-only if it's feminine
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If you continue like it i'll eventually become unironic as the memes consume you
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Is there anyway to stop this from happening?
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>>144347981
ENOUGH
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>>144347981
uninstall
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>>144346250
Fuck, they seem to be useless for my Scout now. Might as well take them out and put in a hull reinforcement or something. Or just go back to the Meme De Lance and have no fun flying.
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*gives you a kiss*
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>>144348409
*yiffs u*
wink
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>>144348409
>/edg/
>shitposting general
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>>144343449
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>>144348565
well its like we can discuss how awesome this update is
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We have to be breaking some sort of ironic shitposting record here
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>>144348409
>>144348546
get this filth out of my general
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144349048
Why can't you just post something constructive instead of all this whining?
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>>144343924
anyone?
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>>144347981
You could stop playing

ALTERNATIVELY: Use pivot points
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>>144349361
are you happened to be interesting in mining anon
because that is the only profitable wing activity right now?
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>>144349207
No need to get angry, bud. We're all friends here.
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>>144349361
it'll just die
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>>144349361
no one here actually plays this game anymore friend

this general is for shitposting
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*farts*
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>>144350317
hahaha good on you cmdr

+rep
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*dockes in ur tigh port with my BIG ship
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>>144349486
>it blinks
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>>144350489

o7 CMDR o7

Will you fuck my stinky CMDR boipucci now???? ;)
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huge multi or huge beam laser?
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what's the best counter to the AWP?
Whenever I try to plant the bomb my ship just explodes from some sniper faggot
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>>144350720
both are good

up to your personal preference
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>>144350720
Id suggest the ak-47
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>>144350687
>>144350489
hahah xpppp so fanni +rep upvoted CMDR's
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they aren't even good shitposts

baka
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This game has more depth desu
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>>144351087
no

they're dadposts :^)
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>>144350813
>>144350694
>>144350607
>>144350489
>>144350317
>>144350993
>>144351061
STOP IT
not because you are shitposting, because you are horrible at shitposting
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>>144351149
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>>144351608
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>>144351983
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>>144352115
The 1st Panzer Division breaks through the lines and makes a push towards Paris.
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>>144352115
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>>144352358
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>>144352432

The excitement is palpable.
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>>144352613
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>>144347845
how can a dick be feminine
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>>144352613
>>144352817
Mutually Assured Destruction
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>>144342196
can i come too
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>>144352817

I think we created a metaphor here...
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>>144352990
if you do it inside
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New fav general desu
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>>144353034
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Making some pasta
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going to the bathroom brb
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ok back : )
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>>144353240
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>>144354361
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>>144352908
If it's cute
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>tfw you leave Newholm Station in Sothis in an Asp to go buy a bigger ship with a better cargo hold, because missions are 80+ cargo only to come back and have all the 5-10 million missions disappear.

I LOVE THIS GAME, YUP YUP.
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>>144354689
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>>144355262
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>>144355452

perfect
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>/edg/ will never come together and make a kick-ass faction to take over a system
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>>144355812
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Is there any way to get Steam to recognise I already have E:D downloaded? Really don't want to wait for the 15gb download so I can have it installed twice.
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>>144357743
>not simply having elite but having it twice
jesus christ why
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We've been awake too long, its time to slumber. See you in 2.2

>>144357743
>Frontier store
>My Account
>Partner Keys
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This is the greatest edg thread ever.
o7 commaders
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>>144357743

Why not buy it again so that you can have a second commander?
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>>144359195
>>144358169
This shitposting will eventually be accepted as truth. Be careful.
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>>144358704
Yes, I know, and I activated on Steam, which wants me to download it a second time.
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>>144358704
see ya space cowboy o7
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stop the shitposting
you fools dont understand the powers you are playing with
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>>144360267
This. The Vision cannot be contained by any mere mortal.
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>>144359519

It isn't already? This mantra is held up on the forums more dearly than anything. Why would you provide character slots when retards are willing to buy your game twice, or even three times just to have a fresh save without having to wipe their characters?
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I watched live stream frontier hosted for Horizons launch on xbone. I thought they'd give mere detail on future updates.
The dev hosting it was cringe as fuck. The shit he said, you literally can't make it up.
>lead producer/manger on xbox team
>my 16yo son came up with achievement name
>my wife doesn't like me playing games alone in my room so I stream ED on PC from xbone while watching tv with her
>I don't have much time to play, and I haven't tried Engineers yet
>Engineers are awesome everyone should try them
There are other stuff he said too, this is just what I really remembered.
I've been on to other generals and seen a lot of inside memes and 99% of them were forced. But this dad meme is as real as it gets.
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>>144362068
>my 16yo son came up with achievement name
That's actually kinda nice.

But the rest? Top kek and top cuck. What a fucking shitshow.
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are you lads too chicken to share CMDR names?
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>>144363302
>Implying any of us even play anymore.
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>>144363302
Add me "Flarg"
We can ERP ;)
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>>144363302

Billy Herrington

Literally don't care. We can wing up or something if I ever play again.
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and once again we go to slumber to the darkness...
see you guys next patch

embrace the VISION
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>>144367953

NOT TODAY
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>>144370963
This. Going to grind my heart out for more engineer unlocks very soon.
>inb4 transport these 500 rare goods across the bubble

Max power plant upgrade for extra power is 37.5% btw
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>>144370963
>>144367953
>>144371820

Let us bitch and moan for weeks to come
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>>144371820

Jesus christ that's better than upgrading your PP two entire classes.
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>>144354689
WHAT IS THIS NEW MEME!?
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>>144372398
integrity drops hard as fuck though, if you ever drop shields you can be planted instantly
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>>144373708

I'm okay with this. I have close to 3K shields on my FDL but the extra power draw from my mods so far is limiting my options.

Not even worried about SCB disruption. Nobody's even rocking feedback cascade since everybody preemptively went biweave/hulltanky.
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>>144376273
This is ironically what i am relying on to keep those shield cells on my corvette

''nah, there's no way anyone would fit shield cells''

I use the double bluff to pack another 6500 MJ up my ass.
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Soon it is time for 2 of these bad boys. Frags are great now. 93 base ammo and perfectly capable to tear up multiple ships by themselves. Maybe I'll finally get a special effect too.
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>>144360707
Sometimes I think Frontier thinks their game is f2p with all the grind, cosmetic shop and lack of save slots.
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>>144382470
Be under no illusion. This game has always been planned for f2p.
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>>144384302
The price differences between First Encounters and ED ships is fucking amazing. In FE the difference between starting ship and final ship is 64 times. In ED it's 6,500 (without upgrades).

Ridiculous.
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>>144386276
I'm sure early playtesting exposed the huge hole where content should have been.

Hence the grind. It's a pretty tried and tested development method.
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>>144357743
Something you could try would be downloading enough so the file structure is intact-ish, then copying over the game files into it. Then you resume download. Might work. Then if that works, try verifying cache.
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HOW TO MAKE MUNIES???
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>>144387135
build a shrine to braben and pray 5 times a day like a good muslim
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>>144386276
It will be $20 per 50 million.
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>>144379602
>upgrades need cargo for commodities
>you can never mod that last SCB or HRP slot
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>>144387135
:)
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>>144363302
There's the steam groups thread about names, add those guys, they might play.
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Best laz0rs? Burst? Beams?
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>>144396669
Pulse has the steadiest dps while beams are fun. Burst are absolute shit.
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>>144396764

Beams it is, then. Thanks anon. Wanna spacefuck?
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are we dead yet again?
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anyone know some crazy money glitches?
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>>144399961

Not any more. Besides, why are you so entitled as to believe you deserve money? Fucking milennials man...
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>>144398524
when ftroop in ashes, you will have my permission to die
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>>144401254
Has anyone figured out how the negative bounty thing happened?
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>>144403275
I think the bounty value just overflowed
if I recall correctly he scanned his friend while he was carrying illegal stuff over and over again
bounty used to stack and there was no limit on the bounty value
both are "fixed" now
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How the hell do you rank up Federation and Empire now? I want to get max rank because surely they'll release ships for those ranks at one point but now way I'm ranking up the way it was meant to. I like to play other games as well.
Is there a way? Seeing that donation missions aren't an option because they ask for million cr now
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>>144404396
>no way I'm ranking up the way it was meant to
>Is there a way?

No.
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>>144404396
>How the hell do you rank up Federation and Empire now?
no you dont rank up
because they dont want you to rank up
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>>144404396

Maybe play the game instead of abusing exploits? Or is that too much for this generation?
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>>144405604
Nice meme posting but
I can fucking get masters in quantum engineering before I reach max rank in both factions
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>>144404396
Now no one can have fun chasing people with large bounties.
Fucking no one will chase someone down for a maxamum payout of 1 million.
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>>144406254
For >>144403783
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Sorry if this has already been asked but does anyone know if there has been an update on a ps4 release? I'm holding out for a mention at e3.
I bought rebel Galaxy to tide me over, it's pretty good
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jesus christ why is everything so bright in here
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>>144406682
#asp
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>>144406840

there was no > gimme a break
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>>144407105
Could have at least spelled vision or egd
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>>144407326
snek is love
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how far would i have to travel from eravate or the starting systems until i start finding a decent number of undiscovered planets?
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>>144407812
No scientific proof but I'd say about 1-3k Ly
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>>144407812
Also pick a direction most people don't take. So don't aim for galactic core or a nebula.
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My asp can jump 32 ly. If I upgrade my drive with engineers what jump range would I be looking at?
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>>144409448
max asp can do is about 50
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Vision?
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Vision.
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Dead?
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>>144414958
we were so close you bastard
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>>144407812
I was about 1.5k ly out when I found my first one, just follow a weird as fuck route, i.e. go 500 ly below or above the bubble then set off in a random direction and you'll find something.

Most people head to Sagittarius A so avoid going directly for the center and you'll be fine. It's a big galaxy out there CMDR.
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>>144415298

Why do you want us to die?
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>>144415298
if we dont survive the next 12 hours, I am voting for that we should go back to our tombs till the next update
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>>144416754
this thread needs A rated life support
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>>144417046
A is too heavy, D all the way.

Also I blew 11 million on an asp explorer mining ship only to find that I don't particularly enjoy mining because finding a decent amount of painite is hell. Where the fuck are low temperature diamonds, I assumed they were in icy belts but I have yet to see even one.
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ctrl f "citizen"
0
~okay
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>>144417876
>ASP for mining

What are you, poor?
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I love how I'm ruining the game for all of you. Love FD. Elite is the best game ever. Your thread is dying while forums love the game. Even Reddit is better. Game will only get better. Go back to CoD :)

Cheers Cmdr's
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>>144418150
Yes.
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>>144418882
Ironically, the new CoD trailer got a nice space fight, wish they just rename it and forget about cod franchise
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>General is up again after the last one died
>Still nothing to do in game except the same shit 6 months ago

Time to let it die again, I guess.
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>>144420890
"Nothing to do" this kid says.
Have YOU visited all systems?
Have YOU landed on all planets?
Have YOU achieved elite in all professions?
Have YOU unlocked all Engineersâ„¢?
And many things more this amazing game offers?
I don't thinks so, pal. So why don't you stop posting these meaning less posts and add some real, constructive criticism. Oh right you can't because Elite Dangerous: Horizonsâ„¢ Is flawless game.

Sincerely
CMDR Anon
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>>144421315
We're approaching levels of dadposting that shouldn't even be possible.
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>>144421315
>Have you

I will soonâ„¢ Except I won't. I stopped playing because there's nothing to do in this shit game any more
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>this general
>this game
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good FDL builds?

so far ive tried:

huge laser 4 multi

huge multi 2 railguns 2 beams

huge laser 4 seakers

all pretty fun
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>>144423029
All multis for stealth otherwise fixed beam and multicannons.
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What's a good spot near naunin to refit my ship?
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whats your callsign /edg/?

your callsign is [your ship manufacturer] [the phonetic first 3 letters of your username] and its what the ATC calls you when you warp into a station

Zorgon Peterson Golf Alpha Lima
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>>144423395
Core Dynamics Foxtrot Romeo India
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>>144423395
DeLacy Lima Oscar Zulu iirc
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>>144423243
Look for High tech worlds with a high population. It's likely. Otherwise google "rougey", it has a database for every ship and equipment, where you can get it and whats the closest to you.
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Lakon Whiskey Alpha Lima

>>144424431

Lozenge
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>>144424636
H-how did you know?
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>>144424583
Thanks.

Looks like the community goals there are a waste of time though so fuck it, time to check out what this sothis thing is all about
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>>144423395
Core Dynamics Bravo Alpha Zulu

I particularly love this change, along with the other new lines you hear on the radio, and the more varied voices/accents.
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>>144424695

The Vision.
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>>144423395
Core Dynamics Mike Yankee Sierra, usually. Sometimes its Lakon, but I really like my vulture so.
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>>144423395
Core Dynamics Juliet Alpha Golf
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>>144423395
DeLacy Romeo Alpha India
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>>144404396
They buffed the rank gain rates so while it'll take longer it won't take anywhere near as long as it did to do """""""""properly""""""""" pre-2.1
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What economy stations do Mining missions spawn at now, can't seem to find any
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>>144427437
Mining and scavenging missions are the only ones I seem to be able to find, pisses me off.
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>arsenic is a common mined materal
when will i stop falling for this meme
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>mfw all of the missions went to the same system and station 20ly away and paid out 300-500k each
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>>144428856
>INCOMING MESSAGE NEW DESTINATION
>INCOMING MESSAGE NEW DESTINATION
>INCOMING MESSAGE NEW DESTINATION
>INCOMING MESSAGE NEW DESTINATION
>INCOMING MESSAGE NEW DESTINATION
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Neat.
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>>144428998
Na, I get the bullshit timer update message instead. Make the delivery in 00:00 minutes for a bonus
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>>144429219
>10 units of painite
Thank you frontier for increasing the rarity of painite
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>>144429219
Are frag guns any good these days?
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>>144429219
>home system kuk
>KUK
memes

>>144429472
Yes
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>>144429472
Extreme damage for hit'n'runs, the increased ammo makes them usable now. Shooting their entire clip at 200-400m distance kills entire shields 100 to 0.
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Fuck, the dropship is comfy to fly and mine in
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>>144423395
Lakon Sierra Echo Victor
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>>144429535
Supposedly that engineer has both of those upgrade types, hull and armor, at 5 grade quality.
I'm grabbing my mining conda as I type this, getting 10 painite isn't that hard as long as you have a huge cargo hold.
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>>144431196
I've only seen 1t of it since the update. Feels like they made it rarer
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>>144431361
>>mfw
You have no face?
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>>144431361
Did you.. did you just copy his entire post header? What the fuck
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>>144431557
And you have no one to reply to. Checkmate
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>>144423029
pre 2.1
four beam with huge PA
2.1
four beam with huge MC
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>>144431805
>>>/reddit/
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>>144431457
They did. The 2 new metals forced their way into the loot tables.
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>>144423029
depends, if you have engineers i'd roll full overcharged/ MCs with corrosive and incendiary. shit will absolutely tear apart any ship you face

if not i'm partial to 4 2F pulses and a 3A PAC
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what happens if you get a weapon upgrade then swap that weapon for a different one or sell it?

is it gone forever? because i like to switch my weapons around almost all the time, and if thats the case i might as well pretend engineers aren't even in the game
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>>144432146
>>>/FrontierForums/
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>>144431896

>i have no heat sinks and i must scream
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Just got attacked while I was landed on a planet, first time that has happened. Fighting close to the ground is pretty fun and scary, managed to make the enemy clip a mountain.
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>>144432725
>doing a high speed, hard bank in a python on a 3g moon and trying desperately not to slam into the ground sideways
>going nose up and boosting to try and stop your 400kps decent
>losing control and throwing all pips into shield as you bounce off the ground and over the enemy ship jousting at you
No seriously, don't pick a fight on a high g world. Shit's crazy. Crazy fun.
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>>144432396
You can sell and rebuy modded weapons but if you just sell them and then leave they're gone.
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>>144432227
And both the new metals are worth fuck all compared to painite.
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>>144432396
MODULE/SHIP STORAGE WHEN?!
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How do I keep gliding on planetary landings? It says gliding aborted every time
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>>144433594
Come in flat and at 2.5km/s-3km/s when it drops to gliding height. Slowing down to achieve this is worth it as you can glide to your target all the way up to 4km close up in the best case.
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>>144433454
Probably 2.2
But when is that? 6 Months.
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>>144433245
>There will never be an auction house where you can sell your modded modules and weapons to people who don't like the grind or want a specific effect that you don't want.
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>>144433131
What happens if an enemy finds you when you are in your SRV? This pirate appeared before I got into my ship and he came into scanning range right after I got in. Would they open fire on an SRV or an uninhabited ship?
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>>144434689
If the enemy is in a ship they will ignore your SRV.

They will however, shoot your ship even if you aren't in it.
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Im going to get shit but fuck it

>ps4
>love the idea of mindless, boring space travelin sims
>hear about dangerous elite
>seems like a already released No man's sky
>learned dangerous is a timed exclusive
>will be unlocked from exclusivity after no mans sky is released

Only time in history for me were a exclusive had fucked me over personally. Kind pissed I have to wait till august for any spce sim.
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>>144434689
All the pirates I've come across just ignore the SRV's. It's kind of weird because in some systems, they spawn right on top of you and then just fly away like they don't even see you.

I've had them threaten and scan my unoccupied ship but I had no cargo at the time and they flew away from that too.
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>still no class 4 railgun

i dont want to play
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EVERYTHING IS FINE
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>>144434810
>>144434920
What happens if you're in SRV and your ship gets destroyed?
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>>144435317
You farm some mats for fuel and build a house from the remains of your ship and set off an emergency beacon. Then you live your life until rescue comes

>Immersive shit that will never be in this game

Really though, you die eventually and then get a rebuy screen. Often bugged because the game might forget what ship you were in before you got in the SRV and think you're owed a brand new Sidewinder.
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>>144434087

Supposedly this summer.
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>>144434834
You're hyped now, but soon after you get it, could be a week, could be a few months, you will realise it's all just a boring grind. Regardless of which game you get. Don't hype yourself up too much. You will be disappointed eventually.

Unless of course, you're looking after your wife's son right now.
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I'm looking at FSD upgrades and it says that increased range comes at tr cost of module integrity.
I've made to Sag A before and back before engineers and my module didn't brake or anything but if I get max range FSD upgrade with 25% decreased integrity will I feel it's side effects?

This mod is probaby good for in bubble travel not long range stuff
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what would do more DPS?

4 class 2 multi cannons or 2 class 2 multi cannons and a class 4 multi cannon

i dont understand how the class does more damage againsed different ship sizes
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>>144438407
Far as I know that only means it'll blow up faster if you get shot
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>tfw see a commander for the first time in forever while running Sothis and all he says is "fuck off"
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>>144439471
When was that anon?
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>>144439625
about 5 minutes ago
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>>144439471

General Griveous, is that you?
>>
How do I start making money?

Is it normal for a courier mission to be like 30 jumps away?
I'd have to refuel a lot and you only start with 1K credits.
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>>144440016
Get a fuel scoop, free fuel for life.
30 jump couriers are not at all what you should be aiming for, short ones should be fairly common.
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>>144440016
You basically can't right now because they fixed/removed funzones and missions pay out pennies, by and large.

You could try to go out to Maia and get a smuggling contract but you'll have to grind rep with the factions there to get access to those missions
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There we go.
Harder, but not impossible.
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>>144440016

>Is it normal for a courier mission to be like 30 jumps away?

Not when you're starting out, no.

Find some other courier jobs until you have enough cargo space/capital to make manual bulk trading worthwhile.

https://eddb.io/
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>>144438407
that doesn't matter if you're wise enough to pack one or two afmu's
>>
Will shutting down your reactor manually also make you start draining your oxygen supply?
>>
>>144440016
early game the best thing you can do imo is to hit high RESes and slip in to big bounties just before the cops kill them. if you get a K-warrant scanner you can easily net 150k+ for every conda, FDL, clipper and python kill
>>
Is there a new Imperial Rep Exploit yet?
>>
so with the new weapons in this update will the opinion of the federal gunship change?

is it still outclassed by the FDL?
>>
>>144443921

Shotgunning with frags has got a lot more effective now because of the engineers. This is a strategy the gunship excels at, so it has at least gotten a buff compared to the fdl.
>>
>>144444562

i only just now realized the gunship uses a class 3 hardpoint, for the longest time i thought it had a 4 on the bottom.

that's really disappointing...
>>
>>144444562
on that same thought the additions of more huge weapons have really buffed the FDL

i'd say its about even. i prefer the FDL but that's just because its a bit more maneuverable
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>>144333995
If you accept these missions then immediately sell the the slaves without abandoning the mission what would happen?
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>>144445285
I think you can't sell them because they are "Imperial Slaves (Unique)". You can't replace them if you die for the same reason.
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>beer, cider and gin in the fridge
>live alone

Probably gonna spend most of the night NOT playing ed
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There is a problem with the double shot frag mod. If you have a clip size of 5 and you shoot with 1 shot left, it will remember the double shot up until you reloaded and then immediately fire no matter what. I blasted a police anaconda in the face because of this.
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>>144447729
I bet they weren't too happy about that.
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>>144447729

I'd love to go to FD offices and see what their testing process is like.
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>>144449704
>implying they have a testing process
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>>144449704
If they can get to the Frontier logo, they ship it.
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>>144449704
Testing?

whats that?
>>
They don't need to test, they have vision.
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>>144449704
>testing so they can prove the perfection of the VISION
I am sorry but fdev simply do not have time to spare from development
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>>144454570

LIES. They use the same mechanism as used in the FED to test loans. Have a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY
>>
Mining now most comfy profession if you're rich.

> Have cutter. 512 cargo, 3x 5A collector controllers, 3A prospector controller.

Mine almost at the speed the asteroids drain. Don't even care to weed out the useless stuff, just sell everything and come back.

2 hours: 14 millions.

I suppose it might work for plebs with Anacondas too.
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>>144457194
Meanwhile I made more than that in a 25 minute trip from sothis
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>>144457352

Sothis still a thing? They told me it has been kill.
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>>144457520
Works on my machine
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>>144457194
Seriously how do you people get high enough rank to get cutters bad corvettes?
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>>144459003
most people ranked before 2.1
it was much easier back then
now its near impossible
>>
>>144459659
How long does it take? And how much would it cost to rep grind from the lowest rank to the corvette.
>>
The engineer requirements are tedious as fuck. What were that thinking?
>>
>>144460205
I say just the dedicated rep grind would cost you at best 100 hours
excluding the money grind
that's only for one faction
and no I am not exaggerating
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>>144460254
they weren't
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>>144430902
>look to the side
>it has a fucking coffee maker

I am home.
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>>144433454

I think we've finally figured out what the Cobra MkIV is for.

I'm modding small/med size weps and internals for later use and using the MkIV as a storage mule.
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>>144435051

Railguns with the Super Penetrator special go all the way through a Corvette bow to stern. Even class 2s wreck their internals fast.

It's significant because the 'vette has no modules in the entire nose section which makes it a very tough target when it's fighting head-on. The vast majority of frontal hits on it from non-penetrating weapons are hull-only damage.
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>>144446026
>2016
>people don't understand fov
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>>144435317

They can't target SRVs at all, while your ship is still "you" even if you're not in it.

>>144438407

Lower integrity just means the module has fewer hit points, and AFAIK heat damage works off a scale instead of doing set amounts of damage like weapons do. Also since you can fix a FSD with an AFMU it's not much of an issue either way.
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>>144442412

You can't shut down your power plant. You can disable life support though, which starts your emergency oxygen countdown.
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How's this for lazy long distance hauling?
http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/07D5D5A4D7D6D5C-----0202--0505050404320i242f.Iw18eQ==.Aw18eQ==
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>about to board ship from SRV
>accidentally hit dismiss ship button as right above board ship button
>no warning
>lengthy cooldown
>lengthy animation
>lands a KM away
fuck
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>>144461547
when i got a FAS the first thing i noticed was a coffee maker on both sides of the pilots seat. considering the fluff for the federal ships all i can imagine is a pilot avoiding anti ship fire while flying with his knees as his hands are full with coffee cups. meanwhile the troops look at each other nervously as the man responsible for keeping them alive becomes increasingly jittery.

then again, the game is made by bongs so ships having ample tea making facilities is a given
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>>144467675

The OP of that thread sounds like a cunt but he has a point. I wish that the majority of people that pointed out issues with Elite on the forums were people who had a better grasp of English that a Slav teenager.

This wouldn't be an issue if there was some kind of player market or if even you could buy and sell ores to stations, supply of those ores is only replenished by players instead of the servers just telling the station to have some arbitrary amount of ore. This would give people that don't want to do this a way to use their credits that they have amassed from endless grinding to buy shit, and give miners more of a purpose instead of "comfy job i do while listening to streams."
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>>144423395
Gutamaya Charlie Tango Charlie
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Time to get back into the signal source grinder. If only I could be doing my favourite activity instead and then trade the materials in for the ones I need. Thanks braben.
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>>144470682
no problem you ungrateful little cunt

buy the season pass
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>>144423395
Fau lconDelacy Sierra Gulf Tango
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serious question

why is ANYONE bothering with engineer shit. it is literally just an upgrade shop that you need to grind for ages for with a slot machine to make some modules maybe have 20% better output. okay then what. for what purpose.
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>>144471556
minmax or bust you fucking fag
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>>144471556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HB7OhoVn78

This is why.
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Whats an all-rounder ship that isn't the cobra and doesn't cost hundreds of millions of fucking credits, god damnit why the fuck is the grind so bad.
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>>144471556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjgsZe9dlaY
Also this
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>>144471556
because they've spent so much time grinding the few other activities and engineers is the closest thing to a chsnge of pace. Playing ED is like drinking a can of paint everyday and engineers is a new shade. it still tastes like crap and is killing us but the new eggshell white is at least something different from the bone white we've had
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>>144472321
AspE and the DBE.
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>>144471556

I finally got my RES-hunting FAS loaded with four impulse cannons.

They accelerate the target to stupid speeds, which I use to smash them against asteroids. One or two well-placed volleys assures most kills.
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>>144457597

Oooh! Is it true that they took out all the interdictions and that running cold now breaks scans?
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>>144478563
You need to gather 10000 merits with Toussant and wait for week end for them to appear. Then you ship blood and wine canister to geralt station.
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>>144479078
Ahaha thanks, friend. I realized almost immediately how I'd fucked up. Thanks for the laugh.
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>>144478563
Also anon you are being cute and adorable
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let it die?
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>>144481808
Letting it die would admit defeat.
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>>144481808
>>144482165
What are the dads up to today?
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>>144482394
Looking for new smuggling routes.
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>>144481808
too busy in the Grindâ„¢ anon

a-at least i have 2x bounties ;_;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4bDrZtiGoI
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>unknown signal source
>weapons fire detected, level 4 threat
>drop down to investigate, never seen level 4 before
>simultaneously while one npc gives me the "choice" of leaving their loot alone, the other four open fire
>pips into shield and engine, lowwake it out

Literally the first thing that happened when I dropped down was losing 20% of my shield. Good job, Braben,
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Is it normal to constantly be interdicted by NPC pirates flying super-awesome ships? If you're just beginning on working your way up, how are you even supposed to deal with this?
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>>144484756
It was a threat 4 anon

This game is dangerous now kiddo
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>>144486302
Well that's fair enough, I'm all for these dangerous fights being legitimately dangerous and warning you beforehand.

But this stuff >>144486289 pisses me off, when NPC Vultures indertict any ship at all, say "Hand over your cargo" and then open fire regardless.
I haven't flown with a cargo rack for about a year, if you do actually drop your cargo, do the pirates let you go? Really, they would be much better if they scanned you first, and only opened fire if you refused to drop cargo, or if you boosted away while they were scanning you. Their fucking 'AI goddess' needs to get the fucking finger out.
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>>144488014
But that would require work. And when you're working, you're not able to write passive shares dive fanfics
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>>144488676
Passive-aggressive*
Fucking words, how do they work?
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>>144488676
God damn it, that lady infuriates me. I was relatively content with the thought that the devs couldn't get any incompetent, and then it turns out that she is in charge of the increasingly broken AI.
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Why is it that when you are interdicted by an NPC, they start laying into you immediately, but when you interdict an NPC, your ship spins wildly for a whole fucking minute and lets your target get away?
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VISION
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is horizons worth getting? is engineers worth getting? have they at least made the game slightly better with updates or have things gotten even worse?
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>>144493672
V I S I O N
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>>144488014
>if you do actually drop your cargo, do the pirates let you go?

Yeah, they do. The ones that interdict you are a bit unpredictable though since they don't carry cargo scanners and will have a magic number of cargo they expect based on their available cargo space vs your ship class. If you don't have enough they'll attack even if you drop all you have.

Also some AIs that interdict you are psychos who will attack you regardless (their introduction in comms will tip you off as to what kind of AI they are). They intend to just kill you and pick up whatever falls out of the pinata (ie: you).
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>>144489354

The game doesn't actually have the mechanics to transfer an AI from supercruise to realspace. The whole SC instance actually gets unloaded when you start a RS instance.

The game simply spawns in a new AI ship based on the template of the one from SC. It just appears without spinning out or even creating a frameshift flash.

For this same reason the AI always appears at full strength without any sort of interdiction damage.
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>>144496139
Then why do you spin out if the NPCs aren't programmed to?
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>>144496467

The only reason the NPCs don't is sloppy handling of the spawning mechanics.
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How is this thread still here?
Necrons please go to bed.
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>>144496139
Yet another reason why Supercruise is one of the worst things to come out of any space sim.

Rebel Galaxy's warping is such a far better way of doing more or less the same thing
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>>144325171
>Engineers is side activity (not main one, it is clearly not an mandatory upgrade path)
hearty kek
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You cant make this shit up
BRABEN
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>>144498329
this
in each system the skybox is generated based on the nearby starts
which is amazing
if only when we are in jump more we can see nearby systems without going into the system map every time
we set a target in the general direction then jump on our own
no auto generated path to guide us
it would fix the half of the issues in the game
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>>144325810
really fucked late response but

real talk /edg/, this update man, it really fucked newbies. before, a competent pilot could solo pretty much every enemy in the game short of a wing of larges in an eagle or better without suffering too much damage. it took me the better part of a dozen RES sessions to even drop shields when i first bought a vulture

now though, just to combat most of anything you have to know how to use FAoff and your lateral thrusters effectively, and with how much the AI loves to pop infini-chaff you may as well tack on no gimballed combat too. that's not really an issue for half of the autists that play this game, including most of /edg/, but for a newb that's daunting as fuck.

fdev shoot themselves in the foot every time they try to move forward
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>>144500931
on the other hand i can fap to the thought of all those casual fucking shits getting slaughtered, mobius and solo alike.
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How do you complete "massacre" type missions? I have the correct number of confirmed kills but when I return to station there is no way to turn it in even when the mission log says to.
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I've never really did bounty hunting or this res farmin, just heard about it.
Now I'm rank 5 Hudson with 100% bounty payout increase.
Can anyone spoonfeed me on the most effectively way to get bounties while I have 100% bonus?
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Returning player here (maybe) so what's this about Engineers, if I don't have Horizons my ship is going to be worse than everyone else's, is that right?
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>>144504994
Yes. But after very long and tidious grind. Also you can now get one time use injections for your modules, stuff that boosts your FSD distance by 100%. Haven't checked the other ones
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>>144505534
Most of the others are reloads for various weapons. Though that was in since 2.0.
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How long do FSD boosters last for.
It cant just be one jump can it.
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>>144506019
literally one jump
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>>144506383
Bullshit, i refuse to believe
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>>144506608
yep, that 100% fsd boost, one jump and those 6 microresources are burnt
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>>144504340
hi res in hudson space
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>>144500931
Didn't AI always have infini-chaff though? And in all my hours BH at RES I've had to use strafing in most fights against bigger or especially more agile ships.

I haven't BH since I returned post-2.1 though, currently running a gunless smuggling/trading Cobra, did the AI really get that much better?

Not to refute your point, but newbs will actually start in pretty much the most agile ships in the game, and I doubt so much has changed that going to high RES is no longer a fun time to earn some creds for a Cobra, Type-6 or whathaveyou and get acquainted with flight controls and combat, no?
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>>144510684

I have mixed feelings about the AI. I was trading in an Anaconda and got interdicted by a FDS that dropped my shields in 2 seconds and got me to 80% hull in another 1 second. This is supposedly after their fix for op weapons. I got away but had to shelve my Anaconda because a lot of the AI are simply too fast. Turrets are almost mandatory.

I did some BH in my A-rated Vulture and some of the AI can pull some ridiculous moves. I have no idea how agile a DBS is but I saw it accelerate upwards with lateral thrusters much faster than ny Vulture could keep up with. The AI seem to have some cheats when it comes to movement but I didnt experiment much with it. Fighting the AI is pretty fun since they're a lot harder to fight but dogfights tend to drag on for fucking ever and almost every AI has PAs, missiles, and spams infinichaff. Bounty payouts are also the same so earning cash by BH takes considerably more time than before.

I think the AI needs some mire tweaking but knowing FD they'll listen to retarded dads who think they're hot shit and not change anything.
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>>144510684
The AI is much, MUCH better now. Before 2.1 it was possible to be practically unkillable in a Vulture at a RES. I farmed something like 10 million CR before the patch in my vulture without having to worry by just targeting power plants with pulse lasers.

It certainly was too easy before. I'm pretty sure everyone has experienced those times when bounty hunting where the AI has a retardation attack and spins helplessly in place while trying to decide what to do. There's nothing like that anymore; the AI uses FA-off maneuvers and loads of other fancy shit and can now put up a serious fight.

It's certainly more of a challenge, but I think it's overtuned really. Any AI pilot ranked above Competent flies better than most players which combined with infinite heat, SCBs and chaff makes any kind of combat activity fucking awful for all but the most jaded of dads.

It's a change that fucks things for newbies the most. While they are flying around in agile ships they're often outfitted poorly, and when your first BH mission or trade run is ended by an Elite Eagle it really ruins the game for you.
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I have 700mil should I even bother with engineers or should I hoard more money for future ships?
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>>144513953
The thing is that not only that AI got better but they're still cheating module, AI flawless aim, one over heats, endless consumables, ridiculous maneuverability etc.
Before I understand, AI was dumb it needed some kind of boost to hold it's own. But now that AI actually tries, avoids your line of fire really well it doesn't make any sense for it to have advantages like that.
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