Previously on /tosg/ : >>144289292
Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H
TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.
>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430
>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645
>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipedia (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.
>/tosg/ Guilds info
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake) - Recruiting
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Cabyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
>>144322507
Come join us! We have cute traps!
I LOVE TALT!
>>144322607
t.Disco Pants-u
>>144322605
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4131bbb3.1a213a435561.132a3a47.1f233f426575
Is this how i build a useful Paladin?
>>144323000
Would be better to get Kabbal in my opinion for R7.
>>144323000
>useful
>Paladin
pick one
Once again...
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488d.23354551.11213541.1a293a71.11217185.11254155
I'm trying to follow this path, what should be my stat allocation? Is something like 50 CON and 2:1 dex alright? Or is 3:1 dex better?
S-Sumimasen Pilgrim-san!
>>144323239
kys
>cast Change on 3k hp mob
>get 300k hp monstrosity
Cool skill
I'm lonely.
>>144323181
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4131bbbf.1a213a435561.13253545.1f233f426575.153545
Is it worth losing the increase to Zalciai and Daino?
>>144323497
Me too.
>>144323489
Now do it near some AFKing sorcererfag.
>>144323621
Don't need more than 5 Daino.
>>144322342
It's Louvain-chan! Please be nice to her.
>>144322738
Who?
>mission
>some faggot start spaming his moba memes
>he's only bitching and blaming the other players
>he keeps dying and dying
>he blame everyone and keeps bitching the entire mission
ex moba players are the worst
>>144323817
Leader of Futurediscord. A /tosg/ only gulag that makes sure that everyone they invite is adiscord spy before letting them in.
>>144324054
Oh. I don't run any gulag, I just love talt.
>>144323774
>her
Fuck off newfag.
>>144322905
Idk why I find this funny. Gonna kms
>>144323497
>>144323696
If you're on Orsha we can be alone together!Monk soon!
>>144324378
>her
>implying binary gender
HONEYMELI STINGER PRICE INFLATION OUT
>>144324513
>tfw someone namedrops you
So lets say I was a sadist and wanted to make an alchemist so I could awaken my own shit and make items and such without relying on others. What would be the best build for least amount of suffering?
>people unironically go Archer1 Ranger2
What in the literal fuck.
>>144324513
>Monk
>Orsha
>STR
>Priest 1
>>144324880
>namedropping
>>144323505
tfw get kys bullied everyday
Anon, please!
Do me a favor: If you're lv 190+, check your journal entry for the monster Yellow Candle Spider.
I want to know how many kills the top 3 players have in your server.
>>144324954
If you search google for stuff like Fletcher stat calculations.
You get posts on >Reddit telling people that Archer 1 / Ranger 3 / Fletcher 3 is the best build :^)
>>144324770
took me 771 Honeymeli kills to get 26 stingers
first one dropped at kill 126
got three in a row once
end of blog, enjoy your stinger hunt
>>144324880
I will NEVER reveal my name around here.
>The horror when I appeared once in a screenshot someone else posted
>>144325067
Look the monk maymay again xD I love these posts, upboated!
>>144324513
>str "paladin"
>5 deprotection zone
Is a blood for an ard dagger a good trade, I figure I can sell the dagger for roughly the same if i decide not to use it. I'd pref cash but I cant use shout yet
>>144324937
Buy tokens, tp and xp scrolls.
So what is the appeal of oracle besides lewd outfit?
>>144325357
Both are around the same value but Blood is arguably more rare
>>144325489
pvp
>>144325306
Maybe he's bad at getting armor break with less time?
I dunno.
>>144324937
Pyro3linkAlch2
Pyro2ThaumAlch2
Wiz3Link2
Cryo3link
Pyro for dps
Cryo for cc
Link for parties
Thaum for farming/buffing
Depends on your playstyle really.
>you got a petamion recipe today
>>144325489
Dispel, Immunity, and maybe drops
Is there a rod that has +aoe attack ratio? Or is there a database with advanced search options? I couldn't search for this ingame or on tosbase, or am I just missing something?
>>144325554
FUCKING DELETE THIS
>>144325489
Unlimited possibilities with conversion.
>>144325489
c3 will be able to change boys into cute girls.
>>144325489
>Calling cute outfit "lewd"
What is this bullshit.
>>144325702
Okay, cutelewd then.
>>144324775
>>144325067
>>144325306Please bully me in-game it's the only social contact I'd have had in TOS for two weeks now ;A;
>>144325549
Do you think Pyro2LinkSorcAlch2 would be ok? Or is sorcerer rank 1 bad?
is pyro2 linker1 thaum1 alche2 good?
>>144325489
>>144325769
uhmmm... the outfit is cute not lewd...
>>144325789
Fuck off
>>144325554
>You STILL need obsidian & mithril
>>144325127
Klaipeda
>>144325825
Yes.
>>144324513
>that name
uhmmm no thanks
>>144325489
They can look into the future and tell you exactly how much semen is going to be milked out of you.
>>144324513
Hi Koenig #2.
>>144325827
>>144325926
I want to fuck oracle.
>>144325926
>>144326005
Please do not lewd the oracle or you will go straight to hell.
>>144326120
My life is a pain anyway so why not.
>>144325926
But can she see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
>>144324880
HoneyBingo
>>144325825
Nobody will ever tell you a good alchemist build that'll not make you want to kill yourself while getting through rank 6 (and 7 for when 8 comes along 4 years from now)
muh monopoly & such.
>>144325127
Fedimian
>>144324378
>he
Stop being rude to me and Louvain-chan. She is a delicate person.
>>144324880
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1e.1a213a435561.1f21334551659aa5.152545.11354465
Is plague doctor the only/best option to go with the Chaplain build?
Just hit 15 on my Cleric and planning my future suffering.
>>144325789
>Chose Orsha
You deserve to be lonely. If I were you I'd just reroll on Klai and join a guild.
>>144326193
According to those tablets in Nuoridin Falls, yes.
Yes they can.
>spot someone wearing the Paladin Master costume
>Diev Druid, no Pally
THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
>>144326512
>Wearing Peltasta Master Costume
>No circles in Pelta at all
>Not only living a lie, but has a shit build as well.
So is there a guide for pets?
>>144326387
dievdruidPD
krivdruidPD
bokorpadoPD
>>144326297
Not only are you creepy as fuck but you're also entirely oblivious to 4chan culture. Just fuck off already.
>>144326253
Thanks, anon. this person suffered 3700 kills to drop his Venier assuming he actually dropped it and stoped.
I'm reaching 3300.
>>144324880
>tfw you're the running joke of the general
>tfw nobody would think about inviting you besides out of pity
Is npc re-spawn based on a server tick or time of death it looks like a tick form what i can see so far, not so sure about the rarer npc's though
>>144326782
Is Chaplain really that bad?
>>144326790
I've been here since 2005 though. Please calm down anon.
Currently a1qs3, worth having just 1 rank of wugu before going falconer or stick with 2 rank of wugu?
Oh. Oh dear.
I've always thought these dandels are flying balls of fluff with a black face and itty bitty eyes, kinda like the jukopus. Even thought they were cute.
When I zoomed in, I realized those weren't eyes, but teeth.
>mfw someone from orsha says hi to me
>>144326969
Oh. I thought you were asking alternative PD builds besides chaplain. It's okay in lower levels, but falls off in higher because of 100k HP mobs that oneshots you. kToS patch makes Chaplains better.
>mage tower level
>seduction my revenge starts playing
>>144327312
>reach the end
>boss battle starts
>O Deive starts playing
>>144327268
Sad to hear it falls off, and that i would be stuck waiting on a patch that will never come, what lvl does it fall off at?
Like Before or after C7?
>>144327223
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57327
>3D Model
Spooky
>>144325793
Its okay.. Starts to die off at 200+
Daily reminder that dievs are broken and laima is shit
>>144327223
>Dig for 20 pieces of coal for a side quest
>Takes around 3 minutes to complete
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>>144325587
Let me try again, just differently. Is there a way to make my zaibas do aoe dmg?
>>144327689
Krivis2 Zaibas:Splash attribute?
>>144327607
Maybe gathering some crystal energies in the mines will suit you better. :^)
Price Check on
>Zircon
please. there are 0 in Market like each day
>>144327607
It isn't even worth bothering with that repeatable, nor the Crystal Mines one. The ones you bother with are basically any following the Varv one
>>144327809
~40 talt
>>144327809
200-300k
There are none because 100k max.
>>144327479
>so that's where all these 3D model comes from
>I'm gonna check some female NPCs for reasons
>tfw Giltine doesn't wear panties
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147383
>>144327550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwkKhq7ptk
>>144327541
You don't know shit about being broken and shit.
>>144325128
I honestly tried so hard to fight this misinfo
I give up. Fuck everyone.
>>144328016
>Reasoning with people on the forums
Haha warlock male costume is too gay.
>>144327923
>>144328164
That's where this fucking dogshit Archer1 Ranger3 meme started.
Whatever, fuck it.
>>144328182
>looking fancy is gay
>having muscles showing is gay
>being gay is gay
fcuk you!
>>144328164
>forum goers
>MMO players in general
>image related
not even once
if you're not the kind of lad who gets in voip or chat and screams "OKAY THREE TWO ONE LETS JAM" every time you get a group going you're the cancer killing MMOs
>>144328185
NO! WE KEEP THIS ONE!
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1136668g.24354551.15243541.536a8196aabf.15214475.152135
R8 it and H8 it i guess.
>>144328963
>antisocial
evitatives trying to be menacing are fun
>>144329319
No reason to grab open chest, since you still need a key to do it, Barb3 isn't "needed" but it's still pretty good, but if you go barb2, you can get corsair2 for hexen and dwa - which are better skills than 1 in pouncing, which requires you to constantly run around while channeling.
>>144328963
I'll never understand why people who have such bad social anxiety that they can't handle grouping in an mmo even play them. The solo player experience is pretty shit a majority of the time, and in ToS its worse because you can conceivable solo until you hit 200ish, when mobs scale retardedly and most builds will have to group to level in an reasonable time frame.
>>144328963
>tfw that type of person
>would be willing to to do that with tosg during GvGs
>no one uses voip at all
You guys aren't fun. I don't see how a tosg guild is going to win guild arenas without voip against structured guilds.
>>144327798
I'll never understand how people had such a problem with this one.
It was literally "Here's some extra cards on top of when we gave you in beta."
>>144325549
literally me.
Is there any Necro player here? I have some question about the summons.
1) What is the base damage of Shoggoth without INT?
2) Is the skeleton damage affected by INT?
>>144329530
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1136688g.24354551.15243541.659aa5ba.1a557a85.152135
So something like this then?
Thanks for the advice.
>>144325489
I want to make an Oracle now for GvG purposesand as a jewfarmeris this a good build? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144688.1a233a415561.1a2a5575.15213445.2531415a6171819a
The whole idea is to break precast much like Land Protector using Counterspell, Mackangdal and Out of Body.
>iRO still down for a long maintenance
Can keep playing ToS then
>>144329580
The game is legit dying in korea because there's nearly 0 reason to actually party with other people
apparently party play is a big fad now again and MMOs who haven't evolved back into the co-op grinding methods are getting hit hard.
>>144328963
That picture holds a lot of truth
Forcing anti-social introverts into group activities is annoying as fuck. It just makes them want to be more and more like Kirito: break the norm and do all the content yourself. Then they realize SAO is just an anime and their goal will never be achieved.
I wish I was the main character.
>>144329753
This is info from ktos so grain of salt.
Shoggoth is a pretty big increase to your DPS. It might not seem like much but if it's able to attack something consistently it really adds up. It's also extremely tanky.
I don't believe skeletons are buffed by int, I didn't test it but there's nothing in the tooltip about it and the fact that the attribute adds base damage rather than percentage damage leads me to believe they don't scale, which is really unfortunate.
>>144329756
Yea, I would look at taking battle order to 5/5 and summon guild member to 4/5, since it will summon a full party to you, since 4 members + you as leader = a full party.
If you plan to PvP at least 1 point in iron hook will be nice, since you can lock down 1-3 players, and if you're in melee range when you do lock them, you can auto attack while they do nothing. Downside for that is you gotta take points from elsewhere. IMO Dust Devil would be the one to take from, but if you dislike DWA mechanically take from it cause it's kinda weird on mouse controls.
>>144329810
>playing iRO
>>144329580
>>144329319
>>144329756
Taking Barb over Hoplite in a Corsair build.
>>144329763
>and as a jewfarmer
I can tell you right now oracle is useless for farming.
>>144330113
yeah he should play jRO instead
>>144328963
I love playing solo, it's way more enjoyable. But since most of the people from /tosg/ who play with me is almost the same, it's not that bad playing with them.
I just can't handle those fucking faggots who type more than play, if I wanted to talk 24/7 I would be on facebook, not on a game.
>>144330117
Barb has stuns, if they plan to PvP it helps their team more, and if they're templar they don't need to worry as much about their damage output and more about getting their team kills.
Hoplite doesn't add that much to the build from a team standpoint.
>>144329986
How much INT for that video? Also, what's the card level?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21272755.1123354551.1a35557a.11243a4a55.21355a6171
How much suffering am i in for?
>>144330246
>I love playing solo, it's way more enjoyable.
How did you people even get into the fucking MMO community
like
where did you all fuckers come from
>>144330293
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21272755.1123354551.1a35557a.11243a4a55.21355a6171
I think pyro1 linker3 would be better, no point in investing in dps at all if you're going alch.
>>144330251
Not him, but what's a good stat distribution for a barbsair build? Full dex? Or should I put some str as well?
>>144330405
Not him, but it's not all about deeps. It's about having something that won't make you want to kill yourself when your taking a service class at those high ranks.
>>144330405
I was considering it at one point but, i think pyro 2 might give me some more use when im soloing and questing
>>144327112
Sorry
>>144330668
>>144330251
if you're playing a pure corsair in PvP you're already retarded. You should only do that if you're a doppelgoonsair since you can iron hook into long stride
>>144330367
>where did you all fuckers come from
from the internet
back in my day the internet was full of weirdos, introverts and misfits
>How did you people even get into the fucking MMO community
it's a free game I can enjoy
>>144328963
I wonder if you'd see this type of argument for other games.
>Just because my reaction time is shit and I can't aim doesn't mean I should have a hard time in an online shooter!
>>144330251
>>144330712
He didn't even take Hook, I doubt this is a PvP build.
>>144330492
Full anything on swordie kinda shit in my opinion, you need enough con to not get dumped on, even if you only PvE as DPS since you'll inevitably get caught in boss aoe.
STR and DEX you can balance our 2:1, 1:1, 1:2 depending on build if you want more dex focus or not, since your crits will be wet noodles with no str investment, and you can't evade magic.
>>144330712
He's not going pure corsair, he's going templar. Perhaps read first before blindly commenting and calling others retards?
>>144330723
>from the internet
>back in my day the internet was full of weirdos, introverts and misfits
but I mean when the fuck did you shitters come into the MMO community? I could've sworn nobody but like some really small minority played MMOs alone in 2007 and suddenly in like 2010 or something soloshitters became the majority
>mine level
>cave wub starts playingI love it
>>144330712
I was thinking more about just having some decent damage for lvling
>>144327689
Zaibas has hit limit. It can never be truly AoE unless you have a pet Linker with Lightning damage attribute.
All that Zaibas attribute does is make your hits run out faster, (the concurrent enemies it hits depending on your AoE ratio I think?).The number of hits don't change. If you still want an AoE weapon for Cleric then go get a Five Hammer >>144325549
>>144330268
Moderately high int, I think it was around 300 give or take. The card level was I think something like 7 or 8, but it was doing the same damage with a level 1 card since ktos was crazy glitchy. I have no idea if they've fixed that in itos, probably not.
One thing to note about the skeletons is they're extremely squishy. They're definitely more for field grinding than bosses. The Shoggoth is good in dungeons since it's so stupidly tanky. I also think my Shoggoth ability was only level 1 there since I was saving my points for circle 2 stuff.
>>144330908
Thanks man.
>>144330974
Not really, I play MMOs since 2001, most of the MMOs pre-2010 wasn't like Facebook MMOs that we have today.
LIKE, SHARE, COMMENT XD
>>144331067
If you want damage then don't take Corsair. Go either Barb3 Fencer or Doppel.
>>144331117
Thanks anon-kun! I guess I will try out a full CON necro 2 build. If it doesn't work out then I will reset to high to full INT.
>>144331274
>most of the MMOs pre-2010 wasn't like Facebook MMOs that we have today.
MMOs were literally just fucking social chatrooms with attached minigames of grind and other whacky shit
>>144331335
What about Cleric 3 is bad?
Just asking since i have never really seen it suggested in any builds?
This general isn't just full of fake girls, right?
You girls would tell me if you were really boys in real life.
>>144331274
I think I might know who you are.
>>144331551
didn't mean to link to >>144331335
>>144331551
It's fine if you want healing out the wazoo.
It just doesn't offer nearly as much as C2.
>>144331674
There is not a single post that guy has made that hasn't given me some form of cancer.
>>144331410
No problem.
I'd recommend at least decent int from the get go though, depending on your other classes that is. Flesh Cannon is an amazing ability that has a lot of hits so it scales very well with magic damage. Most popular Necro builds also have a decent amount of CC since Linker is involved, and your summons do a good job of taking hits for you.
Something to note is I believe Chrono is the only Wizard class that can buff your summons. Thaum won't be able to boost them or Thaum would be flat out mandatory for Necro.
Anyone know if Bwa Kayiman crits?
>>144331551
It's not bad but it's overkill.
You don't need 15 heal tiles. Guardian Saint is also pretty meh.
But maybe with Cure scaling better with INT as of latest KR update, and Guardian Saint getting some added effects it could be an option. Someone get me a video of that.
>>144331674
>Professional game tester since 2002
Ahahahahaha...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
how does this sound for cheesing
Linker for shared buffs
Monk for golden bell
Linker for melstisIncreases buff duration.
I just want 10 man parties so I can do this in game.
>>144331551
there's something called opportunity costs. Look at what you're losing to get Cleric C3, you're most likely going to lose C3 in another circle or a rank 6 class or a free circle versus what, 5 more heal squares?
>>144330974
>I could've sworn nobody but like some really small minority played MMOs alone in 2007
it was a minority and still is
>suddenly in like 2010 or something soloshitters became the majority
no they didn't, it was the opposite effect: in 2009-2010 there was an inflation of normies across every part of the internet, from 4chan to Youtube and even MMOs
on the other hand animes like Sword Art Online and Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool thus creating the soloshitters who only play solo and guild-less because it's "cool"
these guys are still a minority but with big mouths, and they ruined the label of solo-players
I only play solo because that's how I used to and that's how I enjoy playing games
>>144331917
Yes.
>>144332056
spiritual chain is shit
>>144332056
first that doesnt work because golden bell is a channeling spell
second if you want to cheese it, just go Cleric C2 Divekirby C3 Druid C2. You literally have infinite invincibility if you chain safety zone and stereo grass with Laima up.
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool
No.
>>144332094
>every modern MMO heavily panders to solo-players
>they're the minority
the fuck are the majority playing these days? EVE?
>>144332094
>Log Horizon
>the show that spent 20/24 episodes sitting in pseudo chatrooms
>solo-playing
>>144332229
So I guess melstis doesn't work with channel buffs? that's suffering.
>>144324513
>dat everything
time to reroll
>>144332467
>>144325789
at least we might queue together during missions
>>144331990
he tested all game he played
quality stuff
>>144332094
>I know nothing about Log Horizon but will say it's part of the cancer ruining MMOs: The Post
>>144331921
I think c3 is already worth it bewteen heal, cure, safety zone and divine might. Buffs to guardian saint would be very welcome though to make the circle 3 more unique.
I just partied with a chronomancer for the first time and realized why you want tohold hands with them,now i want too
>>144332736
>played TOS for almost 1000 hours now
>have never seen a single reference to Log Horizon
>have seen more Kirito and Asuna variations than I can care for
why is Log Horizon not popular?
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool
What the fuck it absolutely did not
Akatsuki's entire character arc is about her being an anti-social, low confidence dweeb opening up and having more fun in a group.
And so my watch begins.
>>144332858
because everyone has shit taste
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look
The MC build is literally screams I can't solo for shit.
>>144332858
boring as fuck
>>144332858
I seen a lewd tea party once
>190 dungeon run
>Fletcher
>Fletcher
>Chrono 3
>Chrono 3
>Alchemist (me)
>Non-friend Chrono instant leaves
>Fletchers can't kill anything
>Their AoE is insanely weak
>They die to every 2nd pull
>They can't even kill the monsters in the Cryo Tree
>They can't out DPS my shitty alchemist pyro2 despite me giving them full atribute Swell Left Arm
>Whole run is campfire spamming
>We have to skip over half of the dungeon
>We have to kite Cerb all across to the center of the map
>Fletchers and me all red gear
>fucking 5 minutes left
>We somehow manage to also kill last boss
holy shit you faggots said swordsmen are the worst but holy shit how useless is fletcher everywhere else except fucking stealing world boss kills with Magic Arrow?
I don't fucking get the "Archers are top DPS" meme at all. Quarrel shooters are like fucking glitch abusers from the looks of it with holding Z and shitting out damage. Other than that archer seems just as fucking weak as swordsman, even in Evac / Truffles / Storage and Abbey.
ARCHER DPS IS A FUCKING MEME
>>144333121
Fletchers outside of bosses are literally just bad QS3 since they only have single target unless they want to cast 5 crossfires and then sit down.
Don't fall for the Fletcher C3 meme people
>>144333121
autism
>>144329947
Then kiritos should not engage in activities that should be social in the first place. It's like going into crowded place and demanging everyone move away to make fucking wide pathway just for you. For some reason many people these days are spoiled, egoistic cunts who want everything to be ajusted to them. If I don't like crowds, I'm keeping myself away from them. These fuckers should play either single players, or play MMOs where you don't need teamwork/everyone play alone anyway, like CoD pubs, or make games themselves insetad of constantly bitching how it's unfair that they can't do something alone.
>>144332970
have fun, get a book to read.
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool thus creating the soloshitters who only play solo and guild-less because it's "cool"
>anime is almost entirely group play, group mechanics, and guild politics
>main character's build relies entirely on others to be effective and cannot solo at all
>heroine's a shy guildless solo player who has never so much as raided, and develops major self esteem issues when she sees how effective the MC and his friends are as a team
>get invited to a Dulla in EU evening primetime
>performance are so shit i couldn't cast anything or even actually see the boss itself
If it wasn't for a lv 270 Fletcher3 with RMT tier gear and upgrades to carry my ass i would have never got 2 more cards and a frag
How people actually do world boss at hours like these?
>inb4 upgrade your toaster
>>144329947
>wish I was the main character.
Then go play a fucking singlelayer game, not a massively multiplayer online role playing game.
MMO plot is not a bad thing in itself but I am so sick of every game calling me the chosen one instead of one of many.
>>144332094
>it's another shitter talking shit he don't know about Log Horizon episode
Holy shit, I hate so much how you degenerates try to make Log Horizon looks bad just because it aired a bit after SAO, stop trying to ruin something good through your shitty memes. Try reading it for once, useless weeb.
>>144333482
You don't
Better doing bosses at NEET hours.
More fun and less competition
>>144333870
>Laima made revelations specifically so everyone got one
>It tells them they are totally the chosen one and everyone else is a "distraction" to keep demons from targetting them
>She singlehandedly recruited an army of kiritos
>>144332094
One of the things Log Horizon even did correctly was that it focused on party play and raids rather than solo bullshit. The MC is a support class, he couldn't solo much even if he wanted to. The closest to doing stuff alone he got was his scribe work.
Out of all the flaws of Log Horizon, how the characters relied on partying otherwise they got punished by the game was done correctly
Hovering or Pheasant with remaining points?
>>144331581
I think there are at least 3 girl (female)s in this general
so how long do we have left?
>>144332275
>the guy that literally sits with his very small group of close friends together and avoids big groups like guilds
Yes.
>>144332462
what MMO panders to solo-players?
every MMO I played always gave an advantage for playing with others
>>144332463
I'm not gonna lie, it was awful to sit through all the political wars instead of seeing actual action
>>144332736
http://log-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Shiroe
>Even as a child, he disliked playing outdoors and from middle school-on preferred to stay indoors, where he used computers to explore virtual reality. Shiroe remained somewhat of a hikikomori through college, and he notes upon regaining consciousness in Akiba that it's been awhile since he was last outside
being accepted by some people and having your own small team of close friends is something any anti-social introvert can settle with eventually if he isn't stubborn, at least for the sake of efficiency
>>144332880
>>144333014
>>144333456
>MC refuses to join guilds
>only stays with a small group of close friends
>he accepts teaming up with others for the sake of being efficient
instead of going fully solo similar to kirito you can just get a small group of people to play together
that's a 3rd thing you can choose as a solo-oriented player without getting involved in a big group of people
>>144333969
>good
>political wars over actual action without balancing the two
this is in regards to the anime by the way
@144334591
>being this mad
Not even worth a (you)
I bet you 1 exp tome that we're getting another maintenance
>>144333456
Log Horizon looked like a pretty damn boring from the way the anime portrayed it anyway.
Only good 'mmo is now become real' animes are .hack (from the 'Phantasy Star is the only concept Japan has of an mmo era' and more recently Overlord.
For Chaplain, my main stat is Spr with some Con and Int?
@144334851
>mad
the only mad person here is (You) who doesn't have the mental capacity to read
>Not even worth a (you)
fine! I'm not giving you a (you) either!
>get likes while I'm afk in klai
uhmmm
>>144335046
overlords a pretty damn terrible example of mmo becomes real now, MC was a bigger gary stu than Kirito and even used cash shop.
Heck the only thing that was good wasn't even an MMO but Danmachi would be great if it were.
>be adventurers
>pledge your allegiance to a goddess who gives you goddess related only buffs
>climb giant tower and get mad bitches
>>144334591
C9 gave bonuses to solo players. Monster Hunter Online didn't, but it didn't give a reward for partying, either. Swordsman Online gave you the bonus of soloing instances. PSO2 didn't give much of a fuck whether you were in a party or solo.
Shiroe founds a guild and it increases in size pretty quickly. Never does he do content with just the same few people, the party he does stuff with changed several times over, including the raids where he joined other guilds. The few times a character tried to be a solo hero, they got wrecked either by a single enemy or a swarm. Akatsuki tried to be a solo hero, got beaten on Christmas Eve and revived.
Log Horizon has a ton of flaws, one being the large priority given to the market plan while all action went to the kids several times. But encouraging solo play isn't something you can accuse it of
I'm naming my Alchemist Mia.
>>144335336
muh i must get stronger plot
>>144335336
>gary stu
>he's a loser in real life, and in the game
>using the cash shop was a major plot point in this, he was in a furry RP guild that was only viable because they all paid 2 win
>the real world was a shit hole, the vr was shitty, and government restrictions had already ruined mmos forever by the time the game was closing
>>144335491
Mia isM.I.A
>>144334591
>what MMO panders to solo-players?
You're playing one right now you stupid shit.
Guys semi stupid question. If I leveled squire can I repair my own shit on the field or does it only work as a "shop"?
>>144333482
one day I will grow into a flower
>>144335548
>gary stu
>he's a loser in real life, and in the game
this is literally every anime
>>144335491
>>144333121
>how useless is fletcher everywhere else except fucking stealing world boss kills with Magic Arrow?
Very
Fletchers are shit everywhere but in boss fights where somehiw they become the most broken shit in the game.
>Quarrel shooters are like fucking glitch abusers from the looks of it with holding Z and shitting out damage
Running Shot is the only point of Quarrel Shooter and to get the best from it you still need a Grand Cross+gem.
>I don't fucking get the "Archers are top DPS" meme at all
Arch2Sap2Wugu2Cannon is a quite good top PvE DPS, but somehow is shit for world boss where Fletcher3 control the market
>>144335572
In memory of my beloved Mia
>>144335336
>DanMachi
>>144335704
What other 'mmo' anime has a loser protag?
The two 'popular' ones of SAO and Log Horizon both have "I'm a 'loner' but everyone knows who I am because I am the best player in the MMO world famous pussy slayer player" protags.
Does Kino only git gud at C3?
>>144335373
Oh, Skyforge also gave you rewards for soloing. BDO is essentially a game where you have no reason to party at all pre-50
>>144335886
Please tell me who Mia is, cute orbiter. I've been here since iCBT2 and still have no fgucking idea.
>>144335947
Kino gets good with Cryo at C3 yes
PvP only though.
Mia tasted delicious after I cut her up into bite size pieces.
>>144334591
>small group
>solo
Pick one you retard.
Shirou just didn't want to join a guild, he had lots of contacts.
So basically the highest health pool possible is Wizard.
Full INT Thauma using Transpose with 70% class bonus. Full Plates and shit.
660+ block rating, crit resist and 60 to 70k health? Ein Rune dat shit and we get 140k.
Woo. I wanna see this.
>sept etoiles as a finishing blow
B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L.
>>144335045
It's better than the server being shit all weekend with 5 second delays on skills.
>>144335920
>>144336347
Accel World was a better anime than Sword Art Online
>>144336220
Too bad that Transpose is terrible in practice and requires a full-time pocket cleric healing you nonstop.
Beginner question: Does every map has a hidden treasure chest with the collection box?
>>144336510
Yes.
>>144336220
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4197&category=%EC%8F%98%EB%A7%88%ED%84%B0%EC%A7%80&l=50150
>>144336220
Then rank 8 comes, someone dispels your buffs and you die to one hit.
Remember to keep your build futureproof:^)