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Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H
TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.
>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430
>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645
>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipedia (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.
>/tosg/ Guilds info
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake) - Recruiting
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Cabyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
>>144322507
Come join us! We have cute traps!
I LOVE TALT!
>>144322607
t.Disco Pants-u
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4131bbb3.1a213a435561.132a3a47.1f233f426575
Is this how i build a useful Paladin?
>>144323000
Would be better to get Kabbal in my opinion for R7.
>>144323000
>useful
>Paladin
pick one
Once again...
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488d.23354551.11213541.1a293a71.11217185.11254155
I'm trying to follow this path, what should be my stat allocation? Is something like 50 CON and 2:1 dex alright? Or is 3:1 dex better?
S-Sumimasen Pilgrim-san!
>>144323239
kys
>cast Change on 3k hp mob
>get 300k hp monstrosity
Cool skill
I'm lonely.
>>144323181
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4131bbbf.1a213a435561.13253545.1f233f426575.153545
Is it worth losing the increase to Zalciai and Daino?
![2016-05-23 12_52_59-[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 06 [7988F5C9].mkv - mpv.png](https://i.imgur.com/WQQ5JaE.png "2016-05-23 12 52 59-[Asenshi] Kiznaiver - 06 [7988F5C9].mkv - mpv")
>>144323497
Me too.
>>144323489
Now do it near some AFKing sorcererfag.
>>144323621
Don't need more than 5 Daino.
>>144322342
It's Louvain-chan! Please be nice to her.
>>144322738
Who?
>mission
>some faggot start spaming his moba memes
>he's only bitching and blaming the other players
>he keeps dying and dying
>he blame everyone and keeps bitching the entire mission
ex moba players are the worst
>>144323817
Leader of Futurediscord. A /tosg/ only gulag that makes sure that everyone they invite is adiscord spy before letting them in.
>>144324054
Oh. I don't run any gulag, I just love talt.
>>144323774
>her
Fuck off newfag.
>>144322905
Idk why I find this funny. Gonna kms
>>144323497
>>144323696
If you're on Orsha we can be alone together!Monk soon!
>>144324378
>her
>implying binary gender
HONEYMELI STINGER PRICE INFLATION OUT
>tfw someone namedrops you
So lets say I was a sadist and wanted to make an alchemist so I could awaken my own shit and make items and such without relying on others. What would be the best build for least amount of suffering?
>people unironically go Archer1 Ranger2
What in the literal fuck.
>>144324513
>Monk
>Orsha
>STR
>Priest 1
>>144324880
>namedropping
>>144323505
tfw get kys bullied everyday
Anon, please!
Do me a favor: If you're lv 190+, check your journal entry for the monster Yellow Candle Spider.
I want to know how many kills the top 3 players have in your server.
>>144324954
If you search google for stuff like Fletcher stat calculations.
You get posts on >Reddit telling people that Archer 1 / Ranger 3 / Fletcher 3 is the best build :^)
>>144324770
took me 771 Honeymeli kills to get 26 stingers
first one dropped at kill 126
got three in a row once
end of blog, enjoy your stinger hunt
>>144324880
I will NEVER reveal my name around here.
>The horror when I appeared once in a screenshot someone else posted
>>144325067
Look the monk maymay again xD I love these posts, upboated!
>>144324513
>str "paladin"
>5 deprotection zone
Is a blood for an ard dagger a good trade, I figure I can sell the dagger for roughly the same if i decide not to use it. I'd pref cash but I cant use shout yet
>>144324937
Buy tokens, tp and xp scrolls.
So what is the appeal of oracle besides lewd outfit?
>>144325357
Both are around the same value but Blood is arguably more rare
>>144325489
pvp
>>144325306
Maybe he's bad at getting armor break with less time?
I dunno.
>>144324937
Pyro3linkAlch2
Pyro2ThaumAlch2
Wiz3Link2
Cryo3link
Pyro for dps
Cryo for cc
Link for parties
Thaum for farming/buffing
Depends on your playstyle really.
>you got a petamion recipe today
>>144325489
Dispel, Immunity, and maybe drops
Is there a rod that has +aoe attack ratio? Or is there a database with advanced search options? I couldn't search for this ingame or on tosbase, or am I just missing something?
>>144325554
FUCKING DELETE THIS
>>144325489
Unlimited possibilities with conversion.
>>144325489
c3 will be able to change boys into cute girls.
>>144325489
>Calling cute outfit "lewd"
What is this bullshit.
>>144325702
Okay, cutelewd then.
>>144324775
>>144325067
>>144325306Please bully me in-game it's the only social contact I'd have had in TOS for two weeks now ;A;
>>144325549
Do you think Pyro2LinkSorcAlch2 would be ok? Or is sorcerer rank 1 bad?
is pyro2 linker1 thaum1 alche2 good?
>>144325489
>>144325769
uhmmm... the outfit is cute not lewd...
>>144325789
Fuck off
>>144325554
>You STILL need obsidian & mithril
>>144325127
Klaipeda
>>144325825
Yes.
>>144324513
>that name
uhmmm no thanks
>>144325489
They can look into the future and tell you exactly how much semen is going to be milked out of you.
>>144324513
Hi Koenig #2.
>>144325827
>>144325926
I want to fuck oracle.
>>144325926
>>144326005
Please do not lewd the oracle or you will go straight to hell.
>>144326120
My life is a pain anyway so why not.
>>144325926
But can she see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
>>144324880
HoneyBingo
>>144325825
Nobody will ever tell you a good alchemist build that'll not make you want to kill yourself while getting through rank 6 (and 7 for when 8 comes along 4 years from now)
muh monopoly & such.
>>144325127
Fedimian
>>144324378
>he
Stop being rude to me and Louvain-chan. She is a delicate person.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1e.1a213a435561.1f21334551659aa5.152545.11354465
Is plague doctor the only/best option to go with the Chaplain build?
Just hit 15 on my Cleric and planning my future suffering.
>>144325789
>Chose Orsha
You deserve to be lonely. If I were you I'd just reroll on Klai and join a guild.
>>144326193
According to those tablets in Nuoridin Falls, yes.
Yes they can.
>spot someone wearing the Paladin Master costume
>Diev Druid, no Pally
THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
>>144326512
>Wearing Peltasta Master Costume
>No circles in Pelta at all
>Not only living a lie, but has a shit build as well.
So is there a guide for pets?
>>144326387
dievdruidPD
krivdruidPD
bokorpadoPD
>>144326297
Not only are you creepy as fuck but you're also entirely oblivious to 4chan culture. Just fuck off already.
>>144326253
Thanks, anon. this person suffered 3700 kills to drop his Venier assuming he actually dropped it and stoped.
I'm reaching 3300.
>>144324880
>tfw you're the running joke of the general
>tfw nobody would think about inviting you besides out of pity
Is npc re-spawn based on a server tick or time of death it looks like a tick form what i can see so far, not so sure about the rarer npc's though
>>144326782
Is Chaplain really that bad?
>>144326790
I've been here since 2005 though. Please calm down anon.
Currently a1qs3, worth having just 1 rank of wugu before going falconer or stick with 2 rank of wugu?
Oh. Oh dear.
I've always thought these dandels are flying balls of fluff with a black face and itty bitty eyes, kinda like the jukopus. Even thought they were cute.
When I zoomed in, I realized those weren't eyes, but teeth.
>mfw someone from orsha says hi to me
>>144326969
Oh. I thought you were asking alternative PD builds besides chaplain. It's okay in lower levels, but falls off in higher because of 100k HP mobs that oneshots you. kToS patch makes Chaplains better.
>mage tower level
>seduction my revenge starts playing
>>144327312
>reach the end
>boss battle starts
>O Deive starts playing
>>144327268
Sad to hear it falls off, and that i would be stuck waiting on a patch that will never come, what lvl does it fall off at?
Like Before or after C7?
>>144327223
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57327
>3D Model
Spooky
>>144325793
Its okay.. Starts to die off at 200+
Daily reminder that dievs are broken and laima is shit
>Dig for 20 pieces of coal for a side quest
>Takes around 3 minutes to complete
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>Finish it and it asks for 20 more
>>144325587
Let me try again, just differently. Is there a way to make my zaibas do aoe dmg?
>>144327689
Krivis2 Zaibas:Splash attribute?
>>144327607
Maybe gathering some crystal energies in the mines will suit you better. :^)
Price Check on
>Zircon
please. there are 0 in Market like each day
>>144327607
It isn't even worth bothering with that repeatable, nor the Crystal Mines one. The ones you bother with are basically any following the Varv one
>>144327809
~40 talt
>>144327809
200-300k
There are none because 100k max.
>>144327479
>so that's where all these 3D model comes from
>I'm gonna check some female NPCs for reasons
>tfw Giltine doesn't wear panties
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147383
>>144327550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpwkKhq7ptk
>>144327541
You don't know shit about being broken and shit.
>>144325128
I honestly tried so hard to fight this misinfo
I give up. Fuck everyone.
>>144328016
>Reasoning with people on the forums
Haha warlock male costume is too gay.
>>144328164
That's where this fucking dogshit Archer1 Ranger3 meme started.
Whatever, fuck it.
>>144328182
>looking fancy is gay
>having muscles showing is gay
>being gay is gay
fcuk you!
>>144328164
>forum goers
>MMO players in general
>image related
not even once
if you're not the kind of lad who gets in voip or chat and screams "OKAY THREE TWO ONE LETS JAM" every time you get a group going you're the cancer killing MMOs
>>144328185
NO! WE KEEP THIS ONE!
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1136668g.24354551.15243541.536a8196aabf.15214475.152135
R8 it and H8 it i guess.
>>144328963
>antisocial
evitatives trying to be menacing are fun
>>144329319
No reason to grab open chest, since you still need a key to do it, Barb3 isn't "needed" but it's still pretty good, but if you go barb2, you can get corsair2 for hexen and dwa - which are better skills than 1 in pouncing, which requires you to constantly run around while channeling.
>>144328963
I'll never understand why people who have such bad social anxiety that they can't handle grouping in an mmo even play them. The solo player experience is pretty shit a majority of the time, and in ToS its worse because you can conceivable solo until you hit 200ish, when mobs scale retardedly and most builds will have to group to level in an reasonable time frame.
>>144328963
>tfw that type of person
>would be willing to to do that with tosg during GvGs
>no one uses voip at all
You guys aren't fun. I don't see how a tosg guild is going to win guild arenas without voip against structured guilds.
>>144327798
I'll never understand how people had such a problem with this one.
It was literally "Here's some extra cards on top of when we gave you in beta."
>>144325549
literally me.
Is there any Necro player here? I have some question about the summons.
1) What is the base damage of Shoggoth without INT?
2) Is the skeleton damage affected by INT?
>>144329530
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1136688g.24354551.15243541.659aa5ba.1a557a85.152135
So something like this then?
Thanks for the advice.
>>144325489
I want to make an Oracle now for GvG purposesand as a jewfarmeris this a good build? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41144688.1a233a415561.1a2a5575.15213445.2531415a6171819a
The whole idea is to break precast much like Land Protector using Counterspell, Mackangdal and Out of Body.
>iRO still down for a long maintenance
Can keep playing ToS then
>>144329580
The game is legit dying in korea because there's nearly 0 reason to actually party with other people
apparently party play is a big fad now again and MMOs who haven't evolved back into the co-op grinding methods are getting hit hard.
>>144328963
That picture holds a lot of truth
Forcing anti-social introverts into group activities is annoying as fuck. It just makes them want to be more and more like Kirito: break the norm and do all the content yourself. Then they realize SAO is just an anime and their goal will never be achieved.
I wish I was the main character.
>>144329753
This is info from ktos so grain of salt.
Shoggoth is a pretty big increase to your DPS. It might not seem like much but if it's able to attack something consistently it really adds up. It's also extremely tanky.
I don't believe skeletons are buffed by int, I didn't test it but there's nothing in the tooltip about it and the fact that the attribute adds base damage rather than percentage damage leads me to believe they don't scale, which is really unfortunate.
>>144329756
Yea, I would look at taking battle order to 5/5 and summon guild member to 4/5, since it will summon a full party to you, since 4 members + you as leader = a full party.
If you plan to PvP at least 1 point in iron hook will be nice, since you can lock down 1-3 players, and if you're in melee range when you do lock them, you can auto attack while they do nothing. Downside for that is you gotta take points from elsewhere. IMO Dust Devil would be the one to take from, but if you dislike DWA mechanically take from it cause it's kinda weird on mouse controls.
>>144329810
>playing iRO
>>144329580
>>144329319
>>144329756
Taking Barb over Hoplite in a Corsair build.
>>144329763
>and as a jewfarmer
I can tell you right now oracle is useless for farming.
>>144330113
yeah he should play jRO instead
>>144328963
I love playing solo, it's way more enjoyable. But since most of the people from /tosg/ who play with me is almost the same, it's not that bad playing with them.
I just can't handle those fucking faggots who type more than play, if I wanted to talk 24/7 I would be on facebook, not on a game.
>>144330117
Barb has stuns, if they plan to PvP it helps their team more, and if they're templar they don't need to worry as much about their damage output and more about getting their team kills.
Hoplite doesn't add that much to the build from a team standpoint.
>>144329986
How much INT for that video? Also, what's the card level?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21272755.1123354551.1a35557a.11243a4a55.21355a6171
How much suffering am i in for?
>>144330246
>I love playing solo, it's way more enjoyable.
How did you people even get into the fucking MMO community
like
where did you all fuckers come from
>>144330293
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21272755.1123354551.1a35557a.11243a4a55.21355a6171
I think pyro1 linker3 would be better, no point in investing in dps at all if you're going alch.
>>144330251
Not him, but what's a good stat distribution for a barbsair build? Full dex? Or should I put some str as well?
>>144330405
Not him, but it's not all about deeps. It's about having something that won't make you want to kill yourself when your taking a service class at those high ranks.
>>144330405
I was considering it at one point but, i think pyro 2 might give me some more use when im soloing and questing
>>144330251
if you're playing a pure corsair in PvP you're already retarded. You should only do that if you're a doppelgoonsair since you can iron hook into long stride
>>144330367
>where did you all fuckers come from
from the internet
back in my day the internet was full of weirdos, introverts and misfits
>How did you people even get into the fucking MMO community
it's a free game I can enjoy
>>144328963
I wonder if you'd see this type of argument for other games.
>Just because my reaction time is shit and I can't aim doesn't mean I should have a hard time in an online shooter!
>>144330251
>>144330712
He didn't even take Hook, I doubt this is a PvP build.
>>144330492
Full anything on swordie kinda shit in my opinion, you need enough con to not get dumped on, even if you only PvE as DPS since you'll inevitably get caught in boss aoe.
STR and DEX you can balance our 2:1, 1:1, 1:2 depending on build if you want more dex focus or not, since your crits will be wet noodles with no str investment, and you can't evade magic.
>>144330712
He's not going pure corsair, he's going templar. Perhaps read first before blindly commenting and calling others retards?
>>144330723
>from the internet
>back in my day the internet was full of weirdos, introverts and misfits
but I mean when the fuck did you shitters come into the MMO community? I could've sworn nobody but like some really small minority played MMOs alone in 2007 and suddenly in like 2010 or something soloshitters became the majority
>mine level
>cave wub starts playingI love it
>>144330712
I was thinking more about just having some decent damage for lvling
>>144327689
Zaibas has hit limit. It can never be truly AoE unless you have a pet Linker with Lightning damage attribute.
All that Zaibas attribute does is make your hits run out faster, (the concurrent enemies it hits depending on your AoE ratio I think?).The number of hits don't change. If you still want an AoE weapon for Cleric then go get a Five Hammer >>144325549
>>144330268
Moderately high int, I think it was around 300 give or take. The card level was I think something like 7 or 8, but it was doing the same damage with a level 1 card since ktos was crazy glitchy. I have no idea if they've fixed that in itos, probably not.
One thing to note about the skeletons is they're extremely squishy. They're definitely more for field grinding than bosses. The Shoggoth is good in dungeons since it's so stupidly tanky. I also think my Shoggoth ability was only level 1 there since I was saving my points for circle 2 stuff.
>>144330908
Thanks man.
>>144330974
Not really, I play MMOs since 2001, most of the MMOs pre-2010 wasn't like Facebook MMOs that we have today.
LIKE, SHARE, COMMENT XD
>>144331067
If you want damage then don't take Corsair. Go either Barb3 Fencer or Doppel.
>>144331117
Thanks anon-kun! I guess I will try out a full CON necro 2 build. If it doesn't work out then I will reset to high to full INT.
>>144331274
>most of the MMOs pre-2010 wasn't like Facebook MMOs that we have today.
MMOs were literally just fucking social chatrooms with attached minigames of grind and other whacky shit
>>144331335
What about Cleric 3 is bad?
Just asking since i have never really seen it suggested in any builds?
This general isn't just full of fake girls, right?
You girls would tell me if you were really boys in real life.
>>144331274
I think I might know who you are.
>>144331551
didn't mean to link to >>144331335
>>144331551
It's fine if you want healing out the wazoo.
It just doesn't offer nearly as much as C2.
>>144331674
There is not a single post that guy has made that hasn't given me some form of cancer.
>>144331410
No problem.
I'd recommend at least decent int from the get go though, depending on your other classes that is. Flesh Cannon is an amazing ability that has a lot of hits so it scales very well with magic damage. Most popular Necro builds also have a decent amount of CC since Linker is involved, and your summons do a good job of taking hits for you.
Something to note is I believe Chrono is the only Wizard class that can buff your summons. Thaum won't be able to boost them or Thaum would be flat out mandatory for Necro.
Anyone know if Bwa Kayiman crits?
>>144331551
It's not bad but it's overkill.
You don't need 15 heal tiles. Guardian Saint is also pretty meh.
But maybe with Cure scaling better with INT as of latest KR update, and Guardian Saint getting some added effects it could be an option. Someone get me a video of that.
>>144331674
>Professional game tester since 2002
Ahahahahaha...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
how does this sound for cheesing
Linker for shared buffs
Monk for golden bell
Linker for melstisIncreases buff duration.
I just want 10 man parties so I can do this in game.
>>144331551
there's something called opportunity costs. Look at what you're losing to get Cleric C3, you're most likely going to lose C3 in another circle or a rank 6 class or a free circle versus what, 5 more heal squares?
>>144330974
>I could've sworn nobody but like some really small minority played MMOs alone in 2007
it was a minority and still is
>suddenly in like 2010 or something soloshitters became the majority
no they didn't, it was the opposite effect: in 2009-2010 there was an inflation of normies across every part of the internet, from 4chan to Youtube and even MMOs
on the other hand animes like Sword Art Online and Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool thus creating the soloshitters who only play solo and guild-less because it's "cool"
these guys are still a minority but with big mouths, and they ruined the label of solo-players
I only play solo because that's how I used to and that's how I enjoy playing games
>>144331917
Yes.
>>144332056
spiritual chain is shit
>>144332056
first that doesnt work because golden bell is a channeling spell
second if you want to cheese it, just go Cleric C2 Divekirby C3 Druid C2. You literally have infinite invincibility if you chain safety zone and stereo grass with Laima up.
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool
No.
>>144332094
>every modern MMO heavily panders to solo-players
>they're the minority
the fuck are the majority playing these days? EVE?
>>144332094
>Log Horizon
>the show that spent 20/24 episodes sitting in pseudo chatrooms
>solo-playing
>>144332229
So I guess melstis doesn't work with channel buffs? that's suffering.
>>144324513
>dat everything
time to reroll
>>144325789
at least we might queue together during missions
>>144331990
he tested all game he played
quality stuff
>>144332094
>I know nothing about Log Horizon but will say it's part of the cancer ruining MMOs: The Post
>>144331921
I think c3 is already worth it bewteen heal, cure, safety zone and divine might. Buffs to guardian saint would be very welcome though to make the circle 3 more unique.
I just partied with a chronomancer for the first time and realized why you want tohold hands with them,now i want too
>>144332736
>played TOS for almost 1000 hours now
>have never seen a single reference to Log Horizon
>have seen more Kirito and Asuna variations than I can care for
why is Log Horizon not popular?
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool
What the fuck it absolutely did not
Akatsuki's entire character arc is about her being an anti-social, low confidence dweeb opening up and having more fun in a group.
And so my watch begins.
>>144332858
because everyone has shit taste
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look
The MC build is literally screams I can't solo for shit.
>>144332858
boring as fuck
>>144332858
I seen a lewd tea party once
>190 dungeon run
>Fletcher
>Fletcher
>Chrono 3
>Chrono 3
>Alchemist (me)
>Non-friend Chrono instant leaves
>Fletchers can't kill anything
>Their AoE is insanely weak
>They die to every 2nd pull
>They can't even kill the monsters in the Cryo Tree
>They can't out DPS my shitty alchemist pyro2 despite me giving them full atribute Swell Left Arm
>Whole run is campfire spamming
>We have to skip over half of the dungeon
>We have to kite Cerb all across to the center of the map
>Fletchers and me all red gear
>fucking 5 minutes left
>We somehow manage to also kill last boss
holy shit you faggots said swordsmen are the worst but holy shit how useless is fletcher everywhere else except fucking stealing world boss kills with Magic Arrow?
I don't fucking get the "Archers are top DPS" meme at all. Quarrel shooters are like fucking glitch abusers from the looks of it with holding Z and shitting out damage. Other than that archer seems just as fucking weak as swordsman, even in Evac / Truffles / Storage and Abbey.
ARCHER DPS IS A FUCKING MEME
>>144333121
Fletchers outside of bosses are literally just bad QS3 since they only have single target unless they want to cast 5 crossfires and then sit down.
Don't fall for the Fletcher C3 meme people
>>144333121
autism
>>144329947
Then kiritos should not engage in activities that should be social in the first place. It's like going into crowded place and demanging everyone move away to make fucking wide pathway just for you. For some reason many people these days are spoiled, egoistic cunts who want everything to be ajusted to them. If I don't like crowds, I'm keeping myself away from them. These fuckers should play either single players, or play MMOs where you don't need teamwork/everyone play alone anyway, like CoD pubs, or make games themselves insetad of constantly bitching how it's unfair that they can't do something alone.
>>144332970
have fun, get a book to read.
>>144332094
>Log Horizon made solo-playing look cool thus creating the soloshitters who only play solo and guild-less because it's "cool"
>anime is almost entirely group play, group mechanics, and guild politics
>main character's build relies entirely on others to be effective and cannot solo at all
>heroine's a shy guildless solo player who has never so much as raided, and develops major self esteem issues when she sees how effective the MC and his friends are as a team
![TOS 2016-06-03 18-07-08-506.avi_snapshot_00.02_[2016.06.03_21.40.20].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hL4HLN5.jpg "TOS 2016-06-03 18-07-08-506.avi snapshot 00.02 [2016.06.03 21.40.20]")
>get invited to a Dulla in EU evening primetime
>performance are so shit i couldn't cast anything or even actually see the boss itself
If it wasn't for a lv 270 Fletcher3 with RMT tier gear and upgrades to carry my ass i would have never got 2 more cards and a frag
How people actually do world boss at hours like these?
>inb4 upgrade your toaster
>>144329947
>wish I was the main character.
Then go play a fucking singlelayer game, not a massively multiplayer online role playing game.
MMO plot is not a bad thing in itself but I am so sick of every game calling me the chosen one instead of one of many.
>>144332094
>it's another shitter talking shit he don't know about Log Horizon episode
Holy shit, I hate so much how you degenerates try to make Log Horizon looks bad just because it aired a bit after SAO, stop trying to ruin something good through your shitty memes. Try reading it for once, useless weeb.
>>144333482
You don't
Better doing bosses at NEET hours.
More fun and less competition
>>144333870
>Laima made revelations specifically so everyone got one
>It tells them they are totally the chosen one and everyone else is a "distraction" to keep demons from targetting them
>She singlehandedly recruited an army of kiritos
>>144332094
One of the things Log Horizon even did correctly was that it focused on party play and raids rather than solo bullshit. The MC is a support class, he couldn't solo much even if he wanted to. The closest to doing stuff alone he got was his scribe work.
Out of all the flaws of Log Horizon, how the characters relied on partying otherwise they got punished by the game was done correctly
Hovering or Pheasant with remaining points?
>>144331581
I think there are at least 3 girl (female)s in this general
so how long do we have left?
>>144332275
>the guy that literally sits with his very small group of close friends together and avoids big groups like guilds
Yes.
>>144332462
what MMO panders to solo-players?
every MMO I played always gave an advantage for playing with others
>>144332463
I'm not gonna lie, it was awful to sit through all the political wars instead of seeing actual action
>>144332736
http://log-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Shiroe
>Even as a child, he disliked playing outdoors and from middle school-on preferred to stay indoors, where he used computers to explore virtual reality. Shiroe remained somewhat of a hikikomori through college, and he notes upon regaining consciousness in Akiba that it's been awhile since he was last outside
being accepted by some people and having your own small team of close friends is something any anti-social introvert can settle with eventually if he isn't stubborn, at least for the sake of efficiency
>>144332880
>>144333014
>>144333456
>MC refuses to join guilds
>only stays with a small group of close friends
>he accepts teaming up with others for the sake of being efficient
instead of going fully solo similar to kirito you can just get a small group of people to play together
that's a 3rd thing you can choose as a solo-oriented player without getting involved in a big group of people
>>144333969
>good
>political wars over actual action without balancing the two
this is in regards to the anime by the way
@144334591
>being this mad
Not even worth a (you)
I bet you 1 exp tome that we're getting another maintenance
>>144333456
Log Horizon looked like a pretty damn boring from the way the anime portrayed it anyway.
Only good 'mmo is now become real' animes are .hack (from the 'Phantasy Star is the only concept Japan has of an mmo era' and more recently Overlord.
For Chaplain, my main stat is Spr with some Con and Int?
@144334851
>mad
the only mad person here is (You) who doesn't have the mental capacity to read
>Not even worth a (you)
fine! I'm not giving you a (you) either!
>get likes while I'm afk in klai
uhmmm
![[DameDesuYo] DanMachi - 01 (1280x720 10bit AAC) [CAB84B8D].mkv_snapshot_07.00_[2015.04.09_22.56.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FY5k6On.jpg "[DameDesuYo] DanMachi - 01 (1280x720 10bit AAC) [CAB84B8D].mkv snapshot 07.00 [2015.04.09 22.56.29]")
>>144335046
overlords a pretty damn terrible example of mmo becomes real now, MC was a bigger gary stu than Kirito and even used cash shop.
Heck the only thing that was good wasn't even an MMO but Danmachi would be great if it were.
>be adventurers
>pledge your allegiance to a goddess who gives you goddess related only buffs
>climb giant tower and get mad bitches
>>144334591
C9 gave bonuses to solo players. Monster Hunter Online didn't, but it didn't give a reward for partying, either. Swordsman Online gave you the bonus of soloing instances. PSO2 didn't give much of a fuck whether you were in a party or solo.
Shiroe founds a guild and it increases in size pretty quickly. Never does he do content with just the same few people, the party he does stuff with changed several times over, including the raids where he joined other guilds. The few times a character tried to be a solo hero, they got wrecked either by a single enemy or a swarm. Akatsuki tried to be a solo hero, got beaten on Christmas Eve and revived.
Log Horizon has a ton of flaws, one being the large priority given to the market plan while all action went to the kids several times. But encouraging solo play isn't something you can accuse it of
I'm naming my Alchemist Mia.
>>144335336
muh i must get stronger plot
>>144335336
>gary stu
>he's a loser in real life, and in the game
>using the cash shop was a major plot point in this, he was in a furry RP guild that was only viable because they all paid 2 win
>the real world was a shit hole, the vr was shitty, and government restrictions had already ruined mmos forever by the time the game was closing
>>144335491
Mia isM.I.A
>>144334591
>what MMO panders to solo-players?
You're playing one right now you stupid shit.
Guys semi stupid question. If I leveled squire can I repair my own shit on the field or does it only work as a "shop"?
>>144333482
one day I will grow into a flower
>>144335548
>gary stu
>he's a loser in real life, and in the game
this is literally every anime
>>144333121
>how useless is fletcher everywhere else except fucking stealing world boss kills with Magic Arrow?
Very
Fletchers are shit everywhere but in boss fights where somehiw they become the most broken shit in the game.
>Quarrel shooters are like fucking glitch abusers from the looks of it with holding Z and shitting out damage
Running Shot is the only point of Quarrel Shooter and to get the best from it you still need a Grand Cross+gem.
>I don't fucking get the "Archers are top DPS" meme at all
Arch2Sap2Wugu2Cannon is a quite good top PvE DPS, but somehow is shit for world boss where Fletcher3 control the market
>>144335572
In memory of my beloved Mia
>>144335336
>DanMachi
>>144335704
What other 'mmo' anime has a loser protag?
The two 'popular' ones of SAO and Log Horizon both have "I'm a 'loner' but everyone knows who I am because I am the best player in the MMO world famous pussy slayer player" protags.
Does Kino only git gud at C3?
>>144335373
Oh, Skyforge also gave you rewards for soloing. BDO is essentially a game where you have no reason to party at all pre-50
>>144335886
Please tell me who Mia is, cute orbiter. I've been here since iCBT2 and still have no fgucking idea.
>>144335947
Kino gets good with Cryo at C3 yes
PvP only though.
Mia tasted delicious after I cut her up into bite size pieces.
>>144334591
>small group
>solo
Pick one you retard.
Shirou just didn't want to join a guild, he had lots of contacts.
So basically the highest health pool possible is Wizard.
Full INT Thauma using Transpose with 70% class bonus. Full Plates and shit.
660+ block rating, crit resist and 60 to 70k health? Ein Rune dat shit and we get 140k.
Woo. I wanna see this.
>sept etoiles as a finishing blow
B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L.
>>144335045
It's better than the server being shit all weekend with 5 second delays on skills.
>>144336347
Accel World was a better anime than Sword Art Online
>>144336220
Too bad that Transpose is terrible in practice and requires a full-time pocket cleric healing you nonstop.
Beginner question: Does every map has a hidden treasure chest with the collection box?
>>144336510
Yes.
>>144336220
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4197&category=%EC%8F%98%EB%A7%88%ED%84%B0%EC%A7%80&l=50150
>>144336220
Then rank 8 comes, someone dispels your buffs and you die to one hit.
Remember to keep your build futureproof:^)
>>144336452
Never heard of accel world
>>144335373
>Monster Hunter Online didn't, but it didn't give a reward for partying
all MH games give you the option to play it solo or play it with others
playing it with others makes the hunt more efficient as long as you don't have someone who keeps dying
some monster parts can be broken with specific weapons thus having a group means an efficient way to farm materials without resorting to multiple runs using different weapons by yourself
>>144335578
>there's no open-PK and the only other options to non-duel PvP is GvG
>it's faster to grind with a party
>there's no reason to do dungeons the same level as you solo
the only thing close you can say about "solo" advantage is the dungeon queue exp bonus.
>>144336597
go watch it then
>https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57224
Oracle Master, please.
That's not where that goes.
>>144336661
>>it's faster to grind with a party
oh yeah fuck it's like you encounter grinding in what
level 200?
>>there's no reason to do dungeons the same level as you solo
fuck yeah those auto-queued dungeon party searches where nobody even sputters a fucking sentence sure are super social
>Can't even make afk money because emergency maintenances
Thanks IMC
>>144336597
It's written by the same guy, but it's better. At the same time, it still feels like you're reading the author's projection when you read the LN
>>144336661
>all MH games give you the option
Yes, but MHO outright has no content besides Shen that remotely benefits from you having a party. It doesn't even make it more efficient, it makes it more hectic than anything because you get frenzied dancing birds going hectic across the entire map.
MHO also doesn't have the same cart limitation as the main games early on. Early on you get like 9 carts, or time out, in order to fail. It's even more solo-friendly until the tutorial ends and you enter G-rank. There it's still soloable, it just stops holding your hands
>>144336452
Shit is also a better anime than SAO
>>144334591
>still has a huge number of friends and acquintances, is renowned on the server
>is part of a big group that goes around tackling raids
>just doesn't want to join guilds for personal reasons, but eventually makes his own in the end
>this is the same as a solo kirito player
The only kirito in the entire show has it rough and is poor as shit.
>12 kills
>Wizard Bracelet
:^)
>>144336950
Sure, but I use Accel World as an example because it's written by the same author as Sword Art Online. Yet it's just outright superior in all ways other than the fact the author's bully victim complex leaks out and fills the LN
>>144336901
>same guy
But I didn't like SAO
>>144337061
DELETE THIS
>>144337061
>monk
>sao
2 years worth of
>>144337061
NO MONKS
>>144331274
>MMOs in 2001 - require grouping to make any meaningful progress in anyway, have full support classes, few quests, but the quests that were in game usually had a great reward aside from exp
vs
>MMOs post 2010 - quest driven, grouping for exp is slower then solo questing a majority of the time, only content requiring a group was usually high end PvP or Raids, which because people got used to being able to do everything up until endgame solo, became a divisive point among the communities in games, content is tuned for the lowest common denominator vs making content designed to push players and classes to their limits
Its pretty telling when I can literally go and play EQ, FFXI, DAoC, Lineage, ect.(games that require grouping for the most part and still see a decent playerbase, vs looking at a majority of MMOs released since 2010(which are based around questing) and see how quickly those games dropped off the face of the map.
Should I spend my stat points /tosg/?
I never remember partying in RO
>>144337282
glop glop
>>144337392
Yes. on SPR.
>>144337107
It isn't a requirement, it's just the reason I compared the two. I hate SAO because I can't stand any of its characters and instead of focusing on the neat parts of the story's world they just focused on Kirito. But Accel World is okay outside of the fact the LN gets really questionable, in my opinion.
Back when it was airing, /a/ used to make fun of it. It was still deemed a fun show and better than his other known work (SAO) but the entire thing was jokingly called a self-insert series where the author self-inserted as a pigboy who became a special snowflake. Then he got bullied some more.
>>144337061
>3.5k kills
>venier recipe
>golden anvil
>2x lv 9 cards
>>144337719
That description really bothers me
>>144337719
SO CUTE!
>>144337719
I'm going to DPE a Yellow Candle Spider and get two Venier Recipes.
selling beetleback
>>144337719
What are some other good recipes that drop from sub 230 monsters that I can ''reliably'''' farm
I feel like grinding some thousand monsters for some cash
>>144338062
can somebody explain to me what this DPE meme is?
t. DKP
>>144338224
I will offer 1 talt for your girlpucci.
>>144338302
Double Pay Earn. Doppel skill. Get double loot.
>>144338278
>I feel like grinding some thousand monsters for some cash
How do you feel about bees?
>>144338302
Drop Per Ecstasy
>>144338378
what was that other thing then? DPK or some sort of kill based drop rate system?
>>144338420
They drop like 100 silver or so each so even if I kill 5000 of them thats only 500k
I want some big payoff thing
>>144338489
The other thing is DPK, Drop Per Kill. Supposedly you have to kill the same mob a billion times for extra chance of getting the loot.
>>144337719
>There is no meaning of the question that candle to change monster or monster to change candle. Really makes you think...
>>144335046
>Complains about MMO anime being boring
>Praises .hack
Anon... no... stahp. While nothing will ever be as bad as //Roots (which completely missed the point of sign and restorted to retarded staring contests), //SIGN is like 40% "let's just soak up this glorious ambience."
Do people run the 175 dungeon?
>>144338714
sometimes
>>144338278
I'm reaching 3600 and still didn't get it.
I met a doppel in this map when I started farmign that got his recipe with 2300 kills. The top kills before me was 2900.
This monster has almost 50k hp, plate armor. Only 2 channels to hop. Think twice, anon.
Brandish is a better option, imo.
>>144338278
>>144338541
Farm Wizard Bracelets from Shardstones or go to Tenet Chapel and farm mithril since its always in high demand
People only farm bees since its a guranteed payday but it's always more fun to hit the jackpot I suppose
>>144338754
you could try and make a Brandish and trade it for a Venier, I mean they're literally the equivalent in value although it seems more people are going Fencer lately over Hoplite.
>>144338754
I was asking if there was other stuff
Also no one wants brandish desu
>>144338950
people have been selling brandish like crazy recently
no one even plays hop anymore
its always barb or pelt3s you see
>>144339028
If you feel really bored, you could go over to Orsha and farm Varvs then sell the skins off.
>>144338950
I'm reaching the point that If I was farming raw silver at DP, I could have nought the whole Venier and made 2 lv 5 green gems with the yellow ones from the demon spiders.
Since I'm already this deep into that shit, I'll just keep farming.
At least the EXP is ok. I started 186 at the reset and I"m 201 now, and I only did 3 190 runs.
>>144335046
>Log Horizon looked pretty damn boring because it actually showed what a majority of people do in MMOs in real life - chat with friends, putz around, maybe join a raid group, try to make money
Almost everyone who hates/disliked Log Horizon says it didn't have enough action, had too much talking. In reality, its because it just reminds them of what they do when they play MMOs and most people don't watch anime to mirror their real life.
Am I doing it right? Going for fencer.
>>144339154
>>144338809
I want some real jackpot shit not varv skins and mithril ores
wizard bracelets are not that valuable either
something
Are meme gems my only options?
That shits really annoying to trade with
>>144339310
It's ok
>>144339028
I personally traded a catacomb pike recipe for a brandish a while ago and I kind of wish I still had my pike despite the value trade on it. Hoplite kind of boring desu
>>144339374
The only real jackpots in the way you mean, while not being Brandish or Venier, are dungeon ones. Ignition, Maga Rod, Catacombs stuff, Arde Dagger. Toy Hammer from Earth Archon. All of these are, obviously, not stuff you can just spend hours farming, they all follow either instance run limits or Earth Archon's respawn time.
>>144339374
battle bracelets maybe, the best things to sell come from dungeons but dungeons are 99% talt, 3 times a day.
>>144339706
>>144339596
Yeah I know cubes are cubes
Well all I wanted to know if there was anything similar to Venier, but I guess there's not much out there
Imma just grind for running shot gem or something then
>>144339374
>char slot limit is 15
>make 15 A1orA2>QS3
>do 15 * 3 Arde Runs a day
>>144339916
I already got 8 chars to rush 90 dungeon solo with
I still only do the dungeons on my main
I aint about that relogging x 15 life mayne,
just want some comfy grindan, maybe some channel change
>hanshit cant even get their stocks sold
>the day they do most other stockholders will probably jump ship because of how bad its doing in korea
eyy lamoeeee
>>144340135
Battle bracelet, go.
>>144340334
Aite, I hope this ToSbase info is accurate
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1e.1a213a435561.1121334551659aa5.152545.1135
where to spend the extra points? also what stats does this build go? any other tips? thanks
This 190 dungeon is a comedy zone.
>>144340563
>chaplain
no...
don't do it brah
>>144336291
This so much. Game and servers need more restarts than 1 per week so I take it even if it is for other reasons.
>>144335621
Only shop I think. Check tosbase description.
>>144339916
>45 runs per day
>1 run each 10-20mins
>that means 3-6 per hour
>that means 30-60 runs per 10 hours
Roughly it's gonna take at least 8.5 hours to do all those runs. Unless it's a chinese Arde Dagger sweatshop or you do botting you'll get bored in the first few hours of doing the runs.
>Cast skill with minute+ cooldown
>Nothing happens because shit servers
>Cooldown anyway
Thanks, IMC.
>>144322465
NEW PLAYERS WHEN
>>144340872
>10-20 minus
uhmm
>>144340872
>1 run each 10-20mins
what?
my QS does them like 2-3 min each
>>144333121
Fletcher's only purpose is to shit all over giant bosses.
Magic Arrow is actually kinda decent aoe though, but since they're fletcher2's they're pretty useless.
VENIER ANON HERE, I JUST MEET A ROGUE WHO GOT HER SECOND VENIER WHILE GRINDING HERE.
Nice guy, shared a bonfire with him.
He said that if he get a third one, he'll give it to me.
HOPE!
>>144333121
>not complaining about the """""""support"""""" chronos that probably both went with the retarded cryo3 meme build and basically don't help with damage at all
>>144340953
>>144340996
I assumed the player isn't at the point where it can farm Karacha Dagger.
>Blessing now scales, and HARD (14*0.02=28% INT & 14*0.06=84% SPR, even higher with DM+gem) and lasts for 15 more seconds, even when it was fine before (stronger early, but falls off later, but never becomes irrelevant).
>Divine Stigma still gives 78 INT/STR for 35 seconds while being hard as fuck to apply and keep it up. No way to get 100% uptime without -cooldown or melstis.
>>144340563
>Few points in blessing, sacrament and aspersion while going Chaplain
Reconsider your build
>>144341459
>insane buff to aukuras that once again helps render debuff classes useless
>entitled krivis sluts still complaining
>>144341445
Anon pls. a proper qs can do fast solo arde runs at around 100 or 11x
>>144341748
>you can halve the duration of debuffs...
>or resist them completely with other skills
Where do I grind at 180?
>>144342048
180 is where you card to 190
Surely you've not wasted your cards on dumb shit and grinded bees/demon prison instead?
>>144342043
My point exactly, assmunch.
>>144342048
>Where do I grind at 180?
>>144342048
Use your cards! You have some right?
>>144342195
I grinded bees from 161 to 165. I'm not going to grind for weeks just to get a few levels.
>>144342048
Do the Lvl 175 dungeon. (Found in Nuoridin Fall)
Do the Lvl 100 mission dungeons.
Do all the maps from Fedimian.
Use all of your Lvl 8 EXP cards.
Use some Lvl 9 EXP cards if needed.
>>144342048
dung+missions+quest to 190
then dung+missions to 20x
then grind or dung+missions+quest to R7
>>144342361
Why does everyone look like traced from porn in this game?
>>144342567
ur mums traced from porn retarded weeb nigger
>>144342567
maggi is a perv
>>144342567
More importantly, why there're more giant boobed NPCs than small boobed ones?
>>144340668
im already Priest C3, is there another option to take if Chaplain is as awful as you are claiming?
>>144342467
if you grinded bees then just use cards till 190 and do the dungeon
>>144341459
>>144341748
>implying iToS will see these changes.
pic related it's (you)
>>144342567
How do you know underground Korean isn't based off of Maggi's art?
>>144342767
>implying I play on iToS
ayy
>>144342680
krivis is good for the buff increases
you can go cleric2 now and get oracle or druid at 6 which have damage or interesting utility, depending on what you're looking to do with the char
even cleric3 would be better
>still have to wait 2 days even with a Token active
for what purpose
>>144343035
MA BOT PREVENTIONNO
MUUHH
BOOOTS
THEY RUIN THE GAME
MUH BOTS
MUH
MUHJ
MUHHHH BOTTS
>>144342925
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222133.1a213a435561.11213f4553659aa5.132a3a47
Maybe something like this then?
>>144343356
no no no
don't waste your rank7 one something bad as krivis2
krivis is a onetree wonder because of the scaling crit debuff and Daino
both are plenty good at circle1
just take PD with it as you planned earlier and you got yourself a solid support
>>144342885
>playing in a literal ghosttown
wew
I bet you also play on the reddit server
>>144343679
>playing in a server literally half a year behind in content
wew
I bet you also use discord
>>144343675
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4122213e.1a213a435561.11213f4553659aa5.13253542.11354465
Alright, i will look at some of the other options as well since i still have time, gotta finish through Priest C3 and Cleric C2 anyway.
Good night /tosg/, good night cawfees
>>144342302
Go to your inventory and grind cards
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>>144343819
No seriously faggot which server do you play on would be cool to play with another person who doesn't worship turds.
>>144344242
VakarineBut it's dead
This RMTing piece of shit is only 1 level higher than me?
What the fuck.
>>144344404
You can't buy levels retard
>>144344362
Yeah I play on Alkaline or whatever the shit it's called.
It's less dead than every other server but that's not saying much.
>>144341268
Isn't catacombs rapier better if you crit reliably? How does that 3% chance of additional holy property attacks work?
>>144344461
you can
>>144344461
it's called powerleveling returd
>>144344404
He has a high level musketeer IIRC too
>>144344404
His alt* is higher level than you.
Convince me.
I'm pretty tempted to go Sorc and only invest one point in the card summon, mainly do it for the bats and cat. What exact numbers does the cat give? I mean more aoe ratio and dark attack will go well with Flesh Cannon. Does the cat buff summons?
what is a good quarrel schooter build for pve ?
New players when?
Didn't IMC hand out the ToS OST for free at some sort of event before kOBT was released?
Was that ever ripped of am I hoping for too much? Or was it just a copy of the game files?
>>144344834
>cryo3
please just uninstall
>>144344925
QS3 then wugu 2 then wathever you want
>>144341205
>>144335729
>>144333262
>>144333121
lv 7 crossfire + lv 5 magic arrow basically destroyed every run of 190 I did at that level and with only C2 Fletcher. 6k damage 0 cd AoE without target limit at lv 190~200 is more than enough, maybe people should learn to use alchemist pots.
Even if crossfire becomes kinda mediocre later on, it's still miles better than QS3 memers.
which druid build in the pastebin is recommended?
>>144344698
he also has a templar on an alt account
>+750 blessing
Thanks Korea
What is with Maggi & footstools?
Cawfee and Noose, where did you two go? I miss you both.If you aren't back soon, i'll have to remove you guys and add people from the wait list.
>>144344980
Check the game folder.
>>144344834
You said already that you don't like sorcerer. There's only 2 thing that helps meme cannon: join penalty or quickcast.
>>144345214
I was doing pretty good aoe damage in the 190 dungeon too, though I had a viper and crossfire burn was just ticking at 600-700 damage a tick.
>>144344980
They're right there in the folder, anon.
>>144344834
You can get pretty much what you want there, since it's just one circle.
Thauma could be good too for the x2 droprate.
>>144345520
Fair enough. I'm just trying to be a special snowflake at this point. I guess I'll just get Linker and deal with it. I feel like Necro3 might have some poison damage anyway, so I guess Linker will work well. Thanks anon.
>>144345635
I'm probably going to make a Wiz3Thaum3 next anyway, so since Thaum can't buff skellingtons I'll just go Linker.
>>144345495
>>144345568
I'm aware of that but I was hoping that the OST release was a higher bitrate.
>>144345834
>>>/placebo/
SPAWN YOU FUCKING FLOWER
>>144345363
She likes showing off legs and shoes
>All these PvP only changes
Those are getting added to the tooltips in kTOS, right?
>>144346492
Tooltips' values change to reflect the pvp modifiers when you are in arena.
>queue lvl 132 dungeon
>one player is "Out"
>ChronoLinker teleports out
>some swordie complains about attempting the dungeon and prefers to get Out and lose his run
>it's just me and another dude
>the other dude guides me to the boss room
>we lost the exp but we managed to get the boss cube at least
I did 50,90,115 dungeons and this is the first time I encounter the "I want perfection" mentality players. I usually see them near the end of a MMO's late game content.
Is 132+ the point where I'll see more and more of these cancerous people? Kinda wish there was PK enabled so I can get rid of them by my own hand.
>>144346245
who
whats the best char for pvp or gvg?
>>144346764
3cryo3kino
>>144346671
I don't demand perfection but sometimes I get sick of not at least having a healer in my group, because this games dungeon finder is retarded and can't simply match people by class.
End result is I quit sometimes if there's no healer
>>144346671
>fletcher muh best single target dps wannabe
check, elitist kirito retards that think having the best build will guarantee them boss cubes and big money
>chronolinker "leveling alone sucks I hope this cuckbuild pays off"
check, always on edge because they chose to play an absolute horrendous solobuild so they can get invited to things in endgame and pretend that people like them
>corsair named pistol
check, just look at the know-your-swords lists
just bad luck with team mates desu
>>144347058
soon to be worst KEK
>>144347228
>itos
>soon
>>144347228
A lot of current top builds will be dumpstered if we get those korean balance changes.
>>144347326
>>144347327
Should I care if I'm wiz3kino? I feel like 50% more dmg and sleep15 is a lot more op
>>144347506
wiz3kino3warlock is fine
(for now, they keep nerfing it though and eventually it will be ded)
>>144347228
Not really, raise is the bullshit spell and they didn't touched it. I mean, only indulgentia, fumigate and reversi counter's it.
It's still the best CC in the game and guess what, gravity pole is still the second one..
Raise into PP is still a surekill.
Cryo was hurt really bad thou, maybe people will just roll wiz 3 kino 3 wl or cryo 1 kino 3 necro2 or sorc 2
What people should do now
>>144346671
I've had a dungeon run go to shit there because some faggot Pelta kept pulling way more than we could handle at once at our levels & party setup.
Instead of leaving, we decided to just rush the fucking boss. Why the hell would people LEAVE?
>>144347506
Sleeps getting nerfed in PvP to 5 seconds so it being level 15 doesnt really matter if we get that patch
>>144346671
This only really happens in the "shitty" dungeons you cant rush, 115 and especially 145. 145 with no tank/healer and noone quite understanding how terrible magic/ranged mobs can be is just frustrating as fuck.
>>144347781
Depends. Sleep has a hit count limit, and that still applied even after the nerfs. A level 5 sleep will never last the full 5 seconds in a real Guild Battles or Team Battle League match (except maybe in 2v2).
Holy hell, I never realized before just how fun it is plink-plonking pyro flamey balls!
It's so delightful!
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122766f.15243551.1a35557a.11243545.1a213141516a7185.14253551
any better path do go for sorc?
>>144348698
There's only wiz3linksorc or wizcryo3sorc anyway.
>>144348698
Link before pyro2
are dungeons fucked
>Do level 50 dungeons on a new character
>Idiots team mates keep running into mobs and get themselves killed
>No cleric to heal
>Doing my best to link everything and nuke
>Three teamates died so many times they quit
>Me and the cleric spend a good 5 minutes slowly killing the boss
>All i got for this suffering was one talt
>>144349160
>No cleric to heal
>Me and the cleric spend a good 5 minutes slowly killing the boss
>>144349160
>>No cleric to heal
>>>Me and the cleric
Help, I started dreaming about ToS.
>>144349160
anon leave the drugs please
>if database happens it's only going to be a kTOS thing
>>144349160
>I don't have cleric but there was just me and the cleric
>I am a bipolar tsundere baka
>>144349276
>>144349297
Monk in training.
>>144349524
>>>No cleric to heal
>>>>Me and the cleric
>>144349160
Anon, do you have a sister?
this nigga
tfw WizKino
I feel like I got rused
>>144350241
>believing anything in this thread that is not backed up with math and sources
You get what you deserve
>>144350207
i feel her ;_;
>>144350207
did you fix the thing
>>144350207
my guildleader can't be this cute
>>144348938
sound like a pain to level. what does wiz3 give to help sorc? build i found was in pastebin
>>144350241
what
wiz kino is amazing, wait until you get The Pole.
>>144350863
Improved bat damage for gvg. It's Karga's build.
I imagine wiz-pyro-link-pyro-sorc2 would be easier.
>>144350798
Don't bully bokors!
>>144350241
Are you kino3 yet?
Have you pvped yet?
>>144350906
Feels like a long ways away, especially considering PP can easily get interrupted. Is the stun chance at least on every damage tick once in C2?
>>144351249
yes 50% each tick.
Also, how are you getting interrupted? Where's Surespell?Wiz 3 kino 3 is super ok.
>no wugushi fixes yet
>read patch notes
>nowugushifixes
IMC is trying to bully me and my class into submission. I can't hold myself in any longer, please give me the fixes!
>>144351379
It still gets interrupted even with surespell my dude.
>>144351389
you listed wugushi twice
Does Quick Cast increase the damage from Thaum buffs by 50% as well? Do I have to cast it in a certain order?
>>144351389
>I can't hold myself in any longer
Please do for all our sakes, wugushifam.
>>144351389
What needs fixing?
>>144351389
Get in line, buddy!
>>144349874
Go away /a/, you drunk and in the wrong board.
>>144350641
Didn't post that but no fix yet, sent a ticket and waiting
Someone suggested changing my name back but there's no guarantee it will work and costs another 150tp
>>144351389
>>144351930
What about those kTOS buffs to monk?
AND SO MY WATCH ENDSafter 3 hours
When the fuck's the next time we get a stat reset potion my build is all fucked.
>>144352309
when you buy the next 120 dollar dlc pack for super vets
Who wants to kiss!
>>144350798
Bokors are getting buffs, daily reminder that bullying them is not allowed anymore.
>Be zombie bokor
>Do mission run
>Chronomancer in party, fun fun fun
>Get to torch, have full stock of zombies from the start for once
>Do the typical parade around torch while everyone sits inside doing nothing, I've got this
>Chronomancer gave me sanic speed, so it's entertaining as fuck
>Party members start going on about how this is making me SO strong
>They start going so far to say it's the most OP combination ever
>None of this was actually making the train do damage faster
>It's literally the same old thing, only funner
>>144352526
Please be kind.
ALWAYS know your posters
>>144352207
Can I rape you?
>>144352543
But not fixes.
The only thing IMC is STARTING to recognize is that none of the damage scaled well at all.
That list of over 50 bugs/programming oversights isn't gonna shring anytime, soon.
>>144352207
:^) Kim please :^)
>>144352651
>mfw I was misinfoed in believing bokor's zombies would generate other zombies if they last hit a mob
>>144353232
They do, but only on mobs with the hexing debuff.
>>144353232
They do if the mob is cursed. And they can't be in train formation.
That method isn't really worth it, though, since curse targeting is ass and zombies often flat-out refuse to gang up on that one enemy you want them to kill immediately.
Just use the goddamn circle.
>>144352651
you forgot to add FP blogposters, anon-kun
>>144353323
Might as well use zombify then.
I thought I could afk while an self regenerating horde of zombies farmed for me.
>>144353545
Is this shit the reason so many faggots have been claiming bokors can AFK here, lately?
Are YOU that faggot that's been spreading it?
>it costs over 10,000 dollarydindus to repair my armor now
Can you only get map exploration cards the first time? I made a new character and maps appear already explored.
>>144353737
Of course not, I'm just a poor failed bokor that has been tricked by the misinfo.
>>144353545
Except Zombify has a 54 second cooldown (69 with both special zombie attributes) and Hexing has an 8 second cooldown.
>>144353885
No, you get it on every character, granted you re-explore them.
>>144353570
pelt at r4 fencer 2/doppel 2
solid build
How much grinding does this game require? I'm thinking of picking it up but can only really play on weekends and/or maybe for a couple of hours each weekday.
>>144351389
>I can't hold myself in any longer
>>144353990
thousands of hours
i've got 900 hours played and i'm only level 84. out of fucking 600 levels.
>>144353885
That's a common issue. Close the client and reopen, without first logging into your first character.
>>144351389
>please give me the fixes!
I'll give you something for sure *unzips Agvara*
>>144353885
>maps appear already explored
restart the game
>>144353985
He went through half the 90 dungeon without a weapon.
>>144354061
That fuck do you do with your time
I'm not even at 400 hours yet and have a 230 and a 120
And still afk to shit post here quite often
>>144353990
It's questing and the occasional dungeon up until 100, then there's daily missions and quests. If you're pacing yourself out over a long amount of time, you can certainly hit 280 with a minimal amount of grinding.
>>144354061
Wow, could you use a buddy? What server/timezone?
>>144350207
since when was /jp/ filled with normies?
Delivering. I remember someone asked for this, so I copied Fletcher spreadsheet Anon and made a comparison between Cata Rapier and Venier.
What I conclude is Cata rapier crits with Sept-Étoiles will always be higher than Venier's, because the per level scaling for that skill isn't significant enough. For average damage, your crit chance will be important, as white damage with Venier is that much higher. The same holds true for Flanconnade, but the minimum crit chance for a higher Cata Rapier average damage is bigger than Sept's. For the other two (Composeé and Lunge), Venier is the better choice.
Feel free to point out what I did wrong. I, didn't factor in things like Preparation because I don't know where it's added on the damage formula, if it's not T0 it really doesn't matterLolopanther rapier is better btw
So how much con should i slap on my wizard, im currently 65 and i have around 31 con
>>144353323
the problem is trying to land a hexing when there's 10 mobs eating the zombie and hexing targets the zombies
>>144354795
I'm 135 with 31 CON and I only die when I do retarded shit.
>Rodelero is bad meme
Why is this still a thing? Rode bring utility and Swordsman aren't going to do damage anyway.
>>144354868
How do you deal with Spiral arrows?
>>144354868
>level 135 thinks his opinion matters whatsoever
wait until you find out the joy of spion archers who meme you for 5k each and spawn in groups of 3
>>144355036
make one then you cuck
>>144353895
Anon, stop. Turn that shit off. Also, the cooldown isn't ever going to be an issue outside of dungeon runs, in which case, zombies aren't going to be doing finishing blows, anyway.
>>144355036
Rodeleros are some of the best damage in the Swordsman tree.
People will laugh at this post, but it's true. Our time to shine will come, and soon.
>>144354486
how the fuck does a zero dex invested full str have 23% crit chance?
what kind of garbage formula is this?
>>144354485
>calling it /jp/ these days
Might as well rename that board to /2hu/ and be done with it.
>>144355085
don't let them cast it in the first place :^)
>>144355085
>>144355095
I'll just have equipment and hats with even more HP by then. That plus I'll max out plate mastery.
>>144355275
I thought Kancolle killed /2hu/
>>144355265
k lolipa
>>144354486
(Crit rate - target crit resistance)*(42/your level)
Full str will never have 23% crit chance as they have only the base 9 dex + 128 from gems.
At max they have around 13% crit rate or less.
>510 posts
>100 unique IPs
will we be /rog/ soon
>>144355275
Maybe one day, one of them will actually play the games.
>>144355295
>he thinks plate mastery 1k or so health matters at all
if you're lucky you take 10k, if you're unlucky you take 15k
>>144355682
t.clique
>>144355443
Kancolle killed OS-tans and all other netcharas. Touhou survived because it's basically an /mlp/ shmup with cute girls.
>>144355085
>>144355095
>>144355840
Maybe you should actually play the game?
Defense isn't a meme you know. Aspersion 15 is also easy to acquire through pardoners.
>>144355840
>15k
Please sempai. I know exactly how much damage spions and other wendigo shitters do.
>>144355980
>/mlp/ shmup with cute girls.
/jp/ wants to fuck the 2hus?
>>144355950
t.IMC and t.Staff_MAX
>>144354486
Interesting anon, but those crit rates seems strange...
I mean, full str dealing nearly 400 damage on average... This is no archer, not even finestraman.
>>144355696
I play the games and I make my own 2hu arranges but I'm not gonna shill my stuff here
Reminder to cast Lethargy at every boss you fight, help you poor melee teammates.
>>144355267
>>144355541
(9+22+22+29+37+37)*42/28000=0.234000
This is assuming two sissels, two lvl 5 gems on the rapier, another lvl5 on a dagger and target's crit resistance=0. Swordsman's base dex isn't that high iirc so that value is slightly off to begin with
stone shot remind anyone else of the door bust / boss hit sound from sonic spinball
>>144355212
>turn off cute special zombies
No!
And I disagree. Most of the zombies I make are from hexing.
Is this a world boss? Anyway, it's at the resident quarter ch1 on Kla.
>>144356820
>Is this a world boss?
Yes
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111aaa9
What do you guys think?
No idea about the stat and skill point distribution..
>want to make a dps mage
>IMC nerfing class left and right
>the only untouched build was memetelist
>>144356060
SHUT THE FUCK UP OHAYOU POSTER
STOP ADVERTISING YOUR SHITTY GAME ON /jp/
>>144357128
But all my friends are there.
>>144357119
Do not go wiz3, they said.
pyrolinker all the way, they said.
>>144356820
Lets get that talt anon
>>144354486
I have 200 points invested in DEX already, 0 STR. Should I consider some str like a 3:1 dex/str ratio now or what? I feel that having a not perfect flee breaks fencer proposal of tankness, but I want some damage, specially since fencer multihits a lot.
>>144356119
My favorite so far was a level 130 wizard telling me it costed too much money.
>>144354353
Neat, thanks.
How autistically do I have to adhere to character builds? Or can I do some freeform?
>>144356695
Shit that never happened: The Post
How do i kick my addiction to Alchemist potions?
spooky
>>144357489
Up to you, really. Damage isn't the only reason you should invest on DEX, it has other benefits. But if you feel like adding more STR, then why not?
>>144357773
>random for 100 mission
>monk
>3 times
>random for dungeon
>monk
I hate you NO MONK fuckers, worst is they either suck at doing their job or just do nothing at allworst part is i am playing a monk already
>>144357489
>he doesn't know how horrible str fencer is
remember str fencer anon?
do you really want to suffer like him?
just dump everything in dex and safely pelt away
why risk such a useless stat as str when you have pierce that ignores def anyways?
>>144358168
whats wrong with Monks?
>>144357773
Be Chaplain and get addicted to holy water instead
Or go QS3 and get addicted to meme gear
I feel like shit for leaving krivis at 1... is it even worth keeping at 1 or should i at least take it to 2?
>>144358269
Most monk players don't heal.
Don't buff.
Only heal for themselves and prefer to dps.
>>144358269
nothing when they do their job. Except those rarely appear. Also didnt meant to reply to >>144357773
>>144358001
Zombies are cute and loyal!
Fill out the blank
Cleric3 Pala3 ____?
>>144358351
It's plenty if you're FS, a dps cleric will want Zaibas 10 at least. But dps cleric shouldn't even be going krivis imo
>>144358351
Depends on your build.
>>144358125
>>144358261
I know anon, I remember him and his suicide note, that's why I'm nearly full dex (spent 10 points into con).
But Str is another stats that will feel wasted if you don't pump at lest some 40-50 points to enjoy the scaling from the rank ups.
Is much to ask the damage chart of Lunge 10 (12)/Flanconade 1 (3) and Composee 1 (3) together with the values + lv 15 squire buff?
>>144358416
I like healing! I like buffing!
I'm just not very good at it!I'm much better at titfucking!
There’s this emperor, and he asks the shepherd’s boy, “How many seconds in eternity?"
The shepherd’s boy says, “There’s this monster called the Yellow Candle Spider. It has 43,896 hp and only 10 respawns every 25 seconds. Every thousand years or so, it drops this recipe called Venier. In order to craft it, 12 Fossilized Lizard Embers are needed and in order for even one to drop, it takes another thousand years. And when the Venier is finally crafted, a second of eternity will have passed."
>>144358416
honestly all the monks i've met do buff and heal, i think i've got really good luck or the meme is just not so realNO MONKS tho
>>144358497Monk
>>144358625
Just buy it off the market jesus
>>144346671
I admit, sometimes I quit dungeons. When the run is two full CON Cryo3s, a full CON CryoKino, one Cleric and one Hoplite without Peltasta who quits after the first group of mobs, it's just not worth it. Takes 3 years to kill a single group of mobs, nobody does any damage. Just not worth it.
>>144357456
Too shy. I hope you all get something nice.
>>144358497
plague doktor
>>144355265
My High2 Rode3 Shin snowflake build does a shitload of damage with Cartar 10 after Rode's strike debuffs. Too bad it's STILL annoying to hit with even with Shinobi's cloaking
>>144352853
Screw fixes, they're becoming OP. 3x zombie stats is nice, better scaling is nice. Effigy's getting a nice mana reduction, which is fucking amazing, I'm going broke buying alch pots here. Bwa Kamiyan might actually be becoming useful.
And they're fucking DOUBLING Damballa damage. Icing on the cake right there.
>>144358615
Come to Orsha, I'll give you plenty of practicehealing and buffingin all seriousness though i might have to frikazee up a templar and scrape together something this server is eerily quiet
>>144359660Give me a time and place to bless your guild tower, you brave, charitable soul~
>>144359248
Also should note that for anyone going Rode, GET +AOE RATIO EQUIP ASAP
It's expensive but so worth it
>>144352651
But wugu is good
Is it totally fine to go 1:1:1 con/int/spr on a Cleric2Priest3? I want to make a pardoner but no idea on how to build clerics.
>>144360528
Its fine but going pure int or spr is better due to bonus points and how they have equal scaling for priest skills (althrough int does have heal/cure scaling and additional 70% at max level)
do afk necros just burst into treats when their durability drops to 0?
>>144360842
They have pocket squires
How many bonus stat points are the in the game?
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=457
>we're never going to get total class advancement resets because apparently it's "too hard"
IMCompetent strikes again. I'm not an incredible programmer, but for some reason I don't think it could possibly be THAT hard to implement.
Lv160 Pyro c2
Did I just fuck up?
>>144360639
Okay thanks.
>>144361084
Turn off the fireball burn debuff. It's a net DPS loss.
>>144348698
>>144350863
>>144351005
Build looks great, I like PyroLinker over Cryo3 because of the lower cooldowns.
I went Wiz3 because MM/Sleep/QC'd Bats are good tools in PvP, you really want homing skills there.
Here is the webm I promised of Quickcast and Summoning/Riding interaction (aka none).
2.4-2.5k with thunderstorm boss skill both before and after Quickcast.
>>144357773
Minigames, son. You can get like 50 of these per day, for free!
>>144360935
30 or so
>>144360954
They use this excuse a lot for "we don't want to"
Just look at blizzard with Vanilla servers "it's too hard wah wah" yea but some guys in a basement can do it
>>144361228
Can you elaborate? Not the guy, but, how the Fire Burn is not a good thing?
>>144361635
it adds additional cd and its been calced to be net loss in dps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngtq_pywtGg&feature=youtu.be
I've found the new meme build.
I'VE FOUND THE NEW MEME BUILD, EVERYBODY!
>>144361347
What level is your attack order?
>>144362034
If it's not new, why does nobody use it? Checkmate.
>>144361814Cuteboyclerics
>>144362479
Cute bot clerics *
>>144341384
>cryo3 meme
I'm cryo3 planing to go traumaturge, Am I making a mistake?
>>144362479
>>144362479boys are notcute!!
>>144362686
Follow your heart, familia.
>>144362701
You're as silly as always.
Why is Cattly in cute? Onaholes aren't cute...
>>144363015
you're the silly one~!
>>144363102
-(you)
>>144363102
They're cute if you wash them out afterwards.
>>144361287
awesome. will probably go the pyro route for easier leveling, wont be pvping. thoughts on stats? just 70 con rest int?
>>144361287
They say druids can move the monster skills to the hotbar when not transformed.
Can sorcs do the same with boss skills?
>>144362648
Thanks, anon.
That's why the full str anon committed suicide.
>tfw the sleeper agent in my guild doesn't know that we know he's a sleeper agent
>>144362490
Just to be clear, how much dex:str ratio we are talking here? not so clear in the chats, besides the obvious full dex/full str
>>144360935
I did a stat reset at 240 and I had 34 bonus stats.
>>144363102
I am no onahole, be nice.
>>144363140
Are you gonna be my friend yet!
Is effigy spam bokor a decent build?
>>144363604
You might be missing some statue or haven't right clicked some quest item in your inventory (one or two of them give stat points).
I've had 35 bonus points on all my r7 characters.
>>144363709
>bokor
No, even monks are better.
>>144363709
Alchemists will love you
>>144363786
oh shit, nigga wut...
>>144363709
It's good damage but you'll run out of SP SO FUCKING FAST.
wanwan.moe
>>144363709
Damage is similar to swordsman or monks unless you managed to hex 10+ mobs.
When the new kTOS stuff arrives on the store I'm going to have white hair and yellow eyes!
>>144363845
Monks don't have cute feet.
>>144363545
Like I said, I copied those values off Fletcher spreadsheet anon, the one table with 70 invested points in Con. the order is 2STR:1DEX, 1STR:2DEX, 1:1 and the last one where he calculated the needed amount of dex to reach 100% crit chance. Since this isn't an Archer, these numbers are a bit off, also I'm quite sure the stat gained from equips (Max Peta) doesn't get the bonuses from invested points. Still, it shouldn't change much, I'm messing around with tosbase's stat calculator right now
>>144364141
>He thinks this game will ever get content updates
>>144364196
>Looking at their feet when their bazookas are in your face
Uhmmm
>>144363845
>>144363867
>>144363973
>>144364073
The cackling though. So cute.
where were you when you realized male swordsmen fight in heels?
How Koenig out of 10 is 2:2:1 STR INT SPR for a cleric?
>>144364467
>no CON
Enjoy dying all the time and not actually doing any of what you're supposed to do.
>>144364279
Come on I'm sure IMC isn't trying to kill their gameon purpose
>>144363845
Bullying cute clerics is ILLEGAL.
templar fencer tank
s1 pelt1 ? ? ? fencer1 templarthinking high3
>>144364467
>Cleric
>STR ever
>>144364880
I'm going balls deep into Paladin though, that's why I need STR
>>144364879
doesnt matter, templar is always an alt anyway
as long as you have pelt, youre fine
>/memberinfo a friend
>it automatically likes them
why
>>144365005
fair enough
>>144365036
STALKER CAUGHT.
>>144364880
>not going full STR/DEX dievdirby
>>144364970
then don't get any INT or SPR
NEVER A FUCKING A HEALER IN THESE GODDAMN 190 DUNGEONS NEVER EVER EVER WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME RO WAS CHOCK FULL OF PRIEST PLAYERS WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE PLAYING USELESS PIECE OF SHIT MEME BUILDS AT THE LEVEL
>>144365036
I can't even memberinfo anyone aside from myself anymore. It just doesn't show up.
>>144365036
IMC breaks a couple of things every maintenance.
>some dude started talking to me in french
>I'm on Klaipeda
>>144365145
only healers you're going to get are monks anon, invest in lots of potions
>>144365145
Sorry, I literally just dodged queueing again (as a full support cleric) for the 190 dungeon because of my last group. It was so slow I didn't want to be stuck with them again.
I hope everyone has found a special friend by now. I mean we're three months in.
>>144365280
what is canada
>>144365159
Well shit, I didn't know you can memberinfo yourself. I thoughtI could like myself.
>>144365417i had a 50/50 chance of picking the right server goddangit
>>144365280
Hi demon. I saw that scene and laughed.
>>144365159
Names in the command are case sensitive. Won't work if you don't match capital letters.
>>144365145
Why don't you start playing Cleric then
>>144365417
I don't have anyone special.
Exploration/battle cards are a great system. Best thing IMC has added since icbt2Only thing IMC has added since icbt2. So good I forgot Orsha existed. Which of these end up giving me stat points?
>>144352651
This didn't start namedrops? How will I judge how cool I am now?
>>144363709
I'll never understand how people look at JUST the non-cooldown as see a must-have.Pandemic is shit, too. Don't ever fall for the Bokor/Memedoctor bullshit you read.
>>144365145
I wasn't getting pounded after every dungeon runs so i switched to some other classes, sorry anon.
Here is something that happens to me in a regular basis:
>be me lvl 105 krivis, full glass
>queue missions
>getting queued with 3 people in my range and one guy at lvl 121, 3 archer, 1 cleric
>everyone but the lvl 121 goi dies from golem one hit, even at normal attacks
>golem finally dies after an eternity
>I say "dont pull both bosses. We already had so much trouble with the golem."
>mfw when all 3 archers rushing instantly into the last room like lemmings, pulling both bosses, unable to split even after 5mins
>I relog because its useless
>re-queueing
>not prime time, takes a while
>mfw when I have 2 of them again in my team and they told me they just gave up, using a couple of weeab shit smileys
>"Its just a game, bro"
Archer class is the absolute noob magnet in every single game and the casual mmo player never been on a so bad level likely nowadays.
>>144365417
My special friend is just a figment of my imagination.
>>144366187
I just wanted a cackling cutie.
>>144366615
But they're right, it's just a game bro.
>>144366884
try a necro
>>144366294
goddamn waste
If anyone is still in need of a guild, let me know. We're a small guild at the moment with hopes of growth.
We also have a comfy dilgele farm.
>>144367192
>being this much of a jewhow much do you make from the dilgele farming?
>>144366978
What ability cackles?
>>144367192
I think you're a cool person, person. Make the most of your dilgele farm.
>>144367192
what server?
>>144367192
>>144367453
Server is Klai
>>144365145
>play cleric
>queue into mission
>3 fucking clerics everytime
>play swordsman
>queue missions
>no heals everytime
fuck this dead game
>>144361765
Is this hypothetically, where each of your fireballs immediately hits something and continues to hit something for the entire duration before being re-cast immediately after cooldown?
It's not really that great without arde and stuff though, but the fact that elemental damage affects burn has made me rethink it myself recently.
>>144366615
Babies first BR party
>>144367317
I'm not planning on selling it. One of our members is rolling an alch alt, so I'm planning on giving it all to him.
>>144365591
Hi. Yeah I responded to him in the little French I know, but he didn't respond. He's probably fighting his way against bots in Tenet Garden
>>144367192
If my friends aren't in some other guild already I can try to convince them to join you with me, my friend from RO.
>>144367192
What classes are most in need for the guild?
is this good
>>144366615
>Falling for the 0 CON meme
>Dead Corpsman
Thanks IMC writers.
>>144366961
Why cant people act like normal persons in the internet? Its nothing but a shit excuse for being retarded in general.
>>144367853
There is nothing wrong with dead corpsmen,
>>144367853
Corpsman as in a member of a corps.
>>144367837
Actually its not needed at this level. It starts getting critical at ~170.
>>144367764
Sounds good.
>>144367790
Any class is welcome
>>144367853
That's a corpse, man. Show some respect.
>>144367791
its not horrible. at least you got 3 enchants. the only thing that suck here is the resistance
>>144367925
>>144368032
Don't respond. It's a "tee-hee look at how cute and dumb I am!" post.
Good and creative recipe.
>>144367925
>>144368032
I get that but haven't you seen that running gag in too many games lately?
How difficult is it to solo raise a healer? I'm tired of no-healer runs and want to take matters into my own hands, but I don't have anyone to help me with the grind.
>>144367853
NO MONKS
>>144367853
I'm pretty sure you can already card to 190 at that level.
>>144367790
His guild is newly created like 2 threads ago or something. Join them to gather /tosg/ stragglers in one place.
>>144368260
Cleric is literally brain dead leveling.
>>144368260
I personally think Clerics are the easiest to solo with. Flying enemies can be annoying though.
>>144368260
its not hard atall, but expect to be stuck in parties with 4 other "full support" healers and suffering a different kind of hell
Might start investing in to armor attributes soon
Which is best for an archer going canon
Pls no mis info
lolol just asking haha
>>144368260
you want an easy fucking time? priests. auto attack and heal when needed. no skill involved
>>144368260
Generally pretty easy, though it depents on the build.
>>144368260
Depending on class tree and stats. But first its ezpz thru exp cards until r6
>>144367695
This kind of shit ain't happening here in silute. Worst experiences I had was on klaipeda by far.
>>144368260
It's relatively easy but can be slow in high density of flying monster maps.
>>144368474
ToS literally just groups all DPS together then heals together. I've had average of 2 clerics in my parties with a rare occasion of 5.
>>144368479
Plate or Leather, or both if you're rich enough to min/max.
First just choose what you feel comfortable with your build the most.
>>144368060
The dead cleric could have used some CON.
It isn't actually "needed" if your party is around your level or they don't completely fucking suck (also no lag issues), but players have no control over their fate in the random queue.
>>144368260
Depends on the build, but it's generally easy as sin. You have no excuse for dying, especially if your build involves Priest in any way. Even if you somehow screw up badly, you have Revive to carry you
>3 runs in 115 dungeon
>Reroll every cube
>Still no Valia
Can anyone recommend me a working build for archer class ? From the pastebin it seems i need archer c2 for the +25% crit rate buff, but i have no idea regarding what class to go for later rank
>>144368709
Planning to go druid c2 montage, so I have to bear with those minor issues.
>Kateen Forest
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LAST BONFIRE
>>144368876
>what is toscamp
>>144368689
i dont think it's that bad, i think its just completely random. rather then being somewhat smart about it and just picking 1 archer/wiz/cler/swordie/random. Then just taking whatever after 3-5 minutes if nothing is available.
Why is the level 90 deungeon located in a level 70-80 area?
Koenigro doing Saknis at level 164?
>>144368765
it depends what you want to do
Do you want to be a single target machine gun
>Quarrel Shooter C3 Archer C2 Falconer Musket
Do you want to be an AOE monster in PvE
>Archer C2 Sapper C2 Wugushi C2 Cannon
>Archer C2 Ranger Scout C3 Musketeer
Do you want to be Kirito and solo world bosses
>Archer C2 Ranger Scout Fletcher C3
>Ranger C3 Fletcher C3
Do you want to be a Kirito in PvP
>Archer C2 Ranger Scout Rogue C2 Cannon
etc
>>144368941
It'd be okay it was just randomx4 +1 cleric.
>>144368876
When you go the first crossing head left side.
>>144369026
>me and 4 other no CON archers
Never goes well anon, almost as bad as the dozens of wiz/eles as atleast most of them run the high con build and can take a hit.
>>144368426
>>144368438
>>144368526
>>144368527
>>144368596
>>144368642
>>144368474
>>144368731
T-thanks guys. I think I'll roll one whenever this one gets too boring.
>>144368962
Same reason why the 190 dungeon is in a 100-110 zone
>>144368969
>Kirito is a Corsair
>>144368742
got it one run while leveing my first ever character, crafted it and it's sitting on a low level cleric monk to be that will probably never be
>>144367853
>Leaving guild chat uncensored
You're gross koenig. GROSS
>>144367670
It increases the cooldown by 50%. If you don't see the burn ticking for as many times as your fireball hits while doing at least 50% of its damage then it is a dps loss. Simple maths.
>>144369313
The only decent drop I ever got from the 115 dungeon was the Ledas Shield, which I use over an Arde Dagger on my Chaplain just because I prefer a shield for it. I've given up on ever seeing Valia, and I doubt I'll see the Catacombs Club drop when this character is 200.
i can card straight to 217
should i do it?
y/n pls respond.
>>144361814
*kys* (kills you swiftly)
>>144369476
Valia just costs 1m
>>144369541
Just go grind
>>144369541
No, only card when you have no where left to quest and are below the level of the area
>>144369541
card to 210 and go to Truffles for 20 levels
Finally, the bot broke. This is my channel now.
>>144369313
>>144369476
At this point I'm giving it up and returning back to running 90 again in hopes for an arde to sell so I can fucking buy it
>abadoning a party quest resets your gem counter
fucking why, I was at +10 but got goddess saule which is impossible to solo
>>144370135
you could just buy a Valtas, it's like a discount Valia
>>144368742
>complaining about 3 fucking runs
>>144369476
>has gotten an arde AND a ledas before
KILL
YOU'RE
SELF
I want to bully Gesti with my feet.
>>144370271
>you're
kill yourself
>>144370221
>gem counter
What?
>>144370221
What gem counter?
>>144370221
DELETE THIS
so what's the easy leveling cleric build? top support one in pastebin? any tips?
>>144370419
>>144370424
>he doesn't know how there are people getting 20+ gems per party quest run
>>144370271
"Tis your birth and faith that wrong you- not I" - Delita
>>144369462
So it's a hypothetical, perfect-sphere-moving-at-a-constant-speed-with-no-friction type of thing then.
It doesn't matter if the cooldown increases if you're not casting the fireball ASAP each time and it hits the thing you're trying to hit each time. If things are spending time not in contact with your ball, i.e. in the real game and not on a spreadsheet, they're taking more damage while they're burning.
For that matter, they can be burnt on every hit, so if they lose contact with the ball, they can do something like be set burning three times by the same ball.
>>144370574
c2 p3 k1 pd1 is commonly used as full support afaik
>>144368260
Going full priest is so braindead easy, a bunch of chinese computers can do it.
>>144370676
well I'm a pyrolinker so things always die before they can leave my fireball
git gud
>>144370662
By all means, explain what the fuck you're talking about.
>>144367897
Some people are just born retarded.
i want a monk to train to heal and buffand throatfuck when she's being a good girl, all while she knows she's only being kept around as plaything that has no use over a real cleric build beyond use as a lust receptacle
>>144371049
>Spoonfeed me please
Not that anon but no-one should ever spoonfeed others
>>144371156
I'll spoonfeed you anytime you want, anon.
stop giving him (You)'s
>>144371049They're being retarded again.
Looks like miss info is getting better at getting (you)s
Whats the best cleric DPS build? I was thinking going Krivis C3, zaibas seems strong, then druid. My problem with priests is that you can just buy their buffs from pardoner, Bokor has shit AI zoombies, Sadhu seems ok. And of course I know monk is shit.
>>144371554
zaibas seems strong until you grasp how fast those 19 hits get spent
>>144371148
...I'm on Orsha
>>144371554
>he fell for the monk is shit meme
>>144370242
What's the option to go with at 170?
>>144371554
I have c1 p3 chp d1 and it works great. You have so many buff skills that you can interact as a fs type if required.
Best dmg is with c2 k3 d2 from what Ive seen.
>>144371723
>Orsha
Reroll with me on Klai then,idiot.
>>144371706
Yeah, it sucks to just have 1 damage skill, but its 19 hits, it scales well and, what you would choose as alternative? As I said, you can just buy priest buffs.
>>144371829
I wish I could go with my original plan to do Chaplain into Druid C2. I really want Divine Might and level 10 Heal, though, which only leaves one circle free at rank 7 (Plague Doctor)
>>144371943
You do not seem to understand its not 19 hits on everyone, its just 19 hits.
>>144371723Ill come find you; location or name?
>>144371943
the problem with it is the fuckin cooldown
>>144372087
>2x 19 hits
>>144371148
>>144371723
>>144371885
What's going on here
>>144372121
Owl Burial Ground Ch1. You can help me earn my pink hair!
>>144363251
I went this build but for some reason I went alch at the end
Maybe it was for the money maybe it was because sorc has % sp drain and you'll have to chug pots for the rest of your life.. And when you hit warlock I doubt you'll use any pyro skills because you won't have that much sp after your warlock rotation.
>>144372619
starts with memorial service (1) i figure?
>>144358497
Pardoner.
Since the only purpose of paladin is to sell barrier scrolls.
>>144373487
I guess? I'm parked at the statue.
>>144373717
It'll cut down my search time if I know what area of the map you're in, sublabels on the area map.
>>144373820
I meant goddess statue. Garden of Consolation
>>144371156
Oh, so you're full of shit.
Got it.
Got lvl 170 a1-r3-s1 (-r1-musk) and was planning to pvp with it.
But then Ive seen a couple of useful combinations.
Do you think a2-r1-s1-r1-falc1-musk(or cann) is better?
fuuuuuuuu
auto-piloting thru quests, head back to fedimian and accidentally turn in this quest
>insect type
