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>Patch 3.3 Revenge of the Horde Information (Release date: June 7):
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/291208-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-XXIX-Update-Thread
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/293255-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-XXX-Update-Thread
>Resources, Guides, Free Companies and Linkshells:
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>Last time on /xivg/:
>>143500337
qt
>two threads AGAIN
For FUCK sake guys.
xth for disobedient Xaelas
>>143544350
you can't tell me what to do
>>143544387
ugly
WHEN DOES THE MAKE IT RAIN EVENT START
>that feel when landslide
>>143544714
git gud
>>143544794
b-but muh LAG
soulless husk seeks other soulless husk with which to commit suicide or decide to be alive with
thx
>>143545591
>believing in souls
ayyy how is that big paperweight of propaganda treating ya, fundie?
Alex 5, for the first time.
>tfw posting in this thread and the other thread to keep both alive and confuse posters even more
>>143545874
this one won't make it
>>143546049
it will, anon
you just gotta believe
Post your crush's initials and tell us a little about themHard mode:Tell us something about yourself
>>143546313
R.C.Just some fag who's crazy over a cute cat.
>>143544475
4 hours ago.
!
boys boys boys
>>143546623
cute!
Post lizards!
>>143546842
We can win this, anons. Don't give up! Keep posting here!
Holy fuck
Everyone is going to have Fenrir at this rate.
>>143546842
>>143546842
>>143547102
Why's that, anon? What happened?
>>143547207
The "Repeatable" Quest in Gold Saucer gives you 10 tickets to any game for free.
Including the Mini Cacpot.
You can do this quest over and over and get the tickets.
>>143547190
Cute cute cute!
>>143547268
>Jumbo cactpot, mini-cactpot, chocobo racing, and triple triad not included.
>>143547340
>>143547268
Which is it?
>>143547268
You know you can only play mini cactpot 3 times a day, do you?
And it only applies to mini-arcade games like crystal tower and shit.
>>143547415
You can farm King Elmer easily for better MGP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu-jRcMQ_10
>>143547119
cute
you forgot
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/special/3_3_Revenge_Of_The_Horde/ on the OP
Eureka!
>>143548736
You finally discovered that you're a massive faggot?
Congrats anon
>>143548916
I knew that a long time ago.
>>143548736
Your lizard is hella ugly my man.
>>143548736
Who is this cutie warrior?
>>143548736
who is this dick devourer
it makes lizard tails erect
>>143549008
Really? I think she's pretty cute.
Though I have gotten a lot of people telling me to change the haircut.
Another day, same old grind.The song's starting to grow on me.
>>143549591
Yeah, I can live without another member of the Warring Triad for a few more months.
>Do Alex 5
>First time
>Know all the mechanics
>Someone goes gorilla
>Hits bomb to group in a corner
>Wipe
>Everyone except the tanks and me leave
>Boss was on 10%
>Everyone was doing fine
Why the fuck do people leave
Seriously they should add some major penalty for leaving.
>>143550132
Sounds like NeoGAF's FC <GAF> because they're shitters, floor kissers, and triggered SJWs.
>>143549591
We Legend of the Dragoons now, boys.
>>143552724
I dunno
>>143552901
How big is your dickie...
>>143552937L-Lewd
>>143553040
please...Breed me!
>People you should never befriend ig
I'll start: Abe/Aika
>>143549387WAKE THE METAL
need 1 healer and 2 dps for titan story mode on primal
>>143543785
rip
>>143553519
why did that post disappear, he was a cute c@
>>143553257
meria athera aka egghyur
>>143553257
Saeha Mugen
>Deleting the more active thread.
Good job mods
At what ilvl should a MNK be able to beat AS8 dummy?
>>143549387
i swear to god if this song isn't the one played on the gobwalker in 3.3 i will get platinum mad
>>143553257
agree
hahaha so funny eureka! eureka!
eureka!
eureka!
eureka!eureka!
eureka!eureka! eureka! eureka!
Haha !! eureka!
>>143553682
fake thread btfo
>>143553823
Its a fun emote.
>>143553724
Most likely it'll play the version with lyrics if it does
>>143553823
can't wait to spam my winky face selfies in 3.3 ;)
>>143553257
Natsu Seika
>tfw thordan will never get a savage mode
I want a dance that is throwing more shit at you than post metors does.
>>143553932
tfw can't wait for the wink
>>143553998
The devs said nothing will be as complex as thordan again
>>143553998
>tfw static beat thordan but doesnt want to learn sephi
>>143554018
Welcome to the glorious world of feline AIDS
>>143554018
What an ugly cat.
Why do people get so upset when someone else makes a general after so many bitch that no one has made a new one? Why do you get so pissy about leaving out the information in the OP, is it really needed?
>>143554224
Yes the info is needed in the OP sometimes it's the only way you can get info when everyone is avatarfagging/thirstin/ (you) fishing...
Why is Paks cute...
>put elezen in jail
>black dude says its wrong choice
>start wondering who the fuck is the real criminal and suspect the lala
>put lala in jail
>black dude says its the wrong choice again
>don't care, its a lala after all
good riddance
>>143554080
That's a shame.
>>143554178
All cats are ugly, it's just a matter of how ugly they are.like everything else in FFXIV
>>143554628
I dunno if the comment applies to raids too but yeah, but that's apparently the peak of mechanically intense primals
>>143554765
The sad thing is that even if future primals start getting less and less complex, people will STILL have issues beating them.
There's still a lot of people out there who will likely never clear Seph EX, let alone Thordan EX.
I need to level a DPS to do stuff with the FC since there's already like 3 really good tanks and we all tank on rotation.
What is a good DPS that fits most of the comps and won't hurt a party if there's 2 of the same in the party?
DRG?
>>143554854
>tfw you've cleared Thordan EX but not Sephirot EX
>>143554710
Holy shit, is that actually him?
>>143554854
Shit there are people that have played since launch and not beat titan / ifrit ex are you kidding
>>143554894
More monks never hurt, but drg is good for that sick littany uptime
>>143554894
nin
>>143554894
What content is your fc doing?
smug mug
>>143555131
Bird farming
Ex clearing
Slowly working on raid.
Normie stuff. If we ever get into hardcore raiding I'll end up leveling more than 1 DPS probably.
>>143555078
Those aren't people.
>>143554080
No they didn't. They said, prior to 3.2, that the 3.2 primal "wouldn't be as difficult" as Thordan was*. They didn't say anything about primals in 3.3 or 3.4, let alone "indefinitely into the future".
*(And I don't know how true that ended up being in the first place; Thordan wasn't exactly more difficult than Sephirot, or even much less forgiving in his mechanics)
>>143555241
Just lvl the one that seems interesting for you
HUH?
WHO'S FOOTPRINTS ARE THESE..?
>>143555063
that is abe, from his cam session with him
ugly
a4n queues aether gogogogo!
>>143555492
Your own you inbred retard.
>>143555492
kill yourself stupid nigger
>>143555492
mine!
why can't you buy southern seas swimsuit fucc square
>>143555894
What's the queue?
2/0/1?
>>143556142
>>143556232
u fucking suck
>>143556243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8m1Rk0oCU
>tfw convicted the wrong person the first time and only got it the second time
I really hope the game doesn't count the first time you did it as the path you chose in future events. I would be very upset about that.
>You basically have to stay at your PC all day full neet to compete in the market because they undercut by 1 gil every 5 minutes
Game should come into the modern era where theres hosting and delisting fees and limitations.
>>143556357
2/1/3
It's been reall inconsistent lately, with queues for about 45 to the three I just had back to back.
>>143556521
So undercut by enough that they wait for your shit to sell instead of matching your price minus one gil.
>>143549225
i want to stroke that rockhard tail
>>143556692
So the only way to sell things in a reasonable time for normal people is to bottom out the price for an item temporarily and make little profit?
>>143555063
no, are you retarded
>>143556858
Yes
Embrace it
>>143556858
or just wait, if the market is really that hot for what you're selling it'll sell eventually.
>>143556692
Doesn't stop retards from undercutting, including those who already had their shit on the board before.
Here's the solution:Demand
who already bored of 3.3?
>>143557556
Kill yourself.
>>143556601
>>143556357
Wake me up (feat can't wake up)
>>143557652
Waiting for the next soundtrack CD.
>>143557652
3.3 isn't out yet you faggot
>>143557726
This, the new edda song is pure sex.
>>143557789
>missing the point
>>143557839
Shut the fuck up nigga
>>143557652
end yourself
How quick will you become bored in 3.3? Personally probably within a day.
3.3 actually seems like it's going to be even more phoned-in than 3.1 was
Which is actually kind of impressive in its own weird way
>>143558063
Nidhogg will last a week
Aquapolis will have garbage returns that will require a hotfix to revamp, but too little too late
Dungeons get tired after a single run
Palace of the Dead isn't until 3.35 and that was what I banked on, so 3.30 is a wash.
>watching the Heavensward intro the other day
>notice the floating islands "around" Ishgard
>they seem to have buildings on them
I wonder what those were supposed to be. Considering the render was finished before the expansion itself and likely in production way ahead of beta, those must either be scrapped locations or early Sea of Clouds. Or maybe they'll be the new housing areas in 3.4+?
>>143557669
>an emote made you this mad
wew
>>143558319
Palace isn't even 3.3? Fucking tragic, and who the fuck gives a shit about another RNG PvP mode with GC RESTRICTIONS
Aquapolis will be nothing good but a minion or two I bet.
>>143558448
>Aquapolis will be nothing good but a minion or two I bet.
Doubt it. At least you can battle shit without bad controls and any restriction except level sync.
It will be Diadem 1.5 if anything.
>>143557556
You look insane
I love that
>>143558694
What happened to them saying they would update Diadem every odd patch? Still no info on what they will do unless they surprise us in patch notes, or it'll be dead forever.
Why did we settle?
>>143556417
I want to kidnap Elliot and force him to be my husband!
>>143558839
>muh edge
What next? Linkin park playing on the background while grit is active?
>>143558319
Yet you'll keep playing. Although I agree the entire concept of Aquapolis is shit. Almost nobody is going to get anything significant from it with that RNG, and once they do the forum is going to be flooded with complaints over the disparity.
>>143558448
What's wrong with GC restrictions?
>>143559117
>Yet you'll keep playing
Yes, and?
I'll just do my moogle dailies and spam Shatter for a month.
>>143558960
Paladin's and dark knights are damn near exactly the same functionally and mechanically, especially when compared to the much more different Warrior.
In fact, dark knights are pretty much just paladins without heals, and a bit more "muh edge".
Just swap heals with an MP drain mechanic
>>143559327
>MP drain mechanic
>mechanic
Calling it that much is overkill
>>143559269
Aparently longer loading times, but that's mostly thanks to nobody but the hardcore retards giving a shit about PvP.
The real problem are the shitters who switch GCs to the one current strongest, dragging them down.
Speaking of PvP. How is The feast doing? Never touched it and never will, but I'm curious if it's actually failing.
Brahms. Teamspeak. Now.
>>143559117
The issue with aquapolis is that the current map system is annoying.
>maps are annoying as fuck to gather due to their really rare rate
>can only keep 2 on inventory, 1 per retainer and gotta mail them to someone to have them back to you if you want to keep more maps
>harder maps can't be solo'd so you'll need 1-2 more people
>if you don't know anyone you might have to pug and pugs might just run with your map rewards
>depending on the aquapolis dungeon requirements you might need a light party at least a healer is most likely to be a requirement
It's a good idea but badly executed.
>>143559327
>Paladin's and dark knights are damn near exactly the same functionally and mechanically,
>In fact, dark knights are pretty much just paladins without heals, and a bit more "muh edge".
It's so obvious you don't even know anything about how DRK plays that it's sad to see you trying to argue as if you do.
>>143559648
yes ma'am
>>143559648
>people still use teamspeak
tfw
>>143558830
They gave up on that when it turned out that they couldn't figure out how to balance Diadem or to make it fun without actually doing some work on it. It's just one failed experiment of the many that riddle FFXIV.
Don't expect to ever see another Diadem-style map, and I'd be surprised if they even bothered to make a new difficulty level on the same map for 3.3.
>>143559732
They should have put the portals into those unknown maps you can hold in stacks and higher the drop rate of them.
Or even better, give optional ways to get the portal. You'd think that devs who have to make a inventory items for every goddamn shit they could use old itens or other tasks for, could come up with five new systems that require at least one item.
And they could have designed The Aquapolis better. It already looks boring visually.
>>143560091
I'm sorry, did I forget the part where dark knight has a int debuff instead of str debuff, and the fact drk has anti magic cooldowns instead of anti physical cooldowns?
My deepest apology.
Great job explaining your counter argument also. Truly I am taken aback.
>>143560279
This, but it's not just thanks to incompetence or the community this time. If they had more people working on additional content and a higher budget, they probably could have come up with something better.
Meanwhile SE desperately tries to save XV. A already is overhyped game that may not live up to the hype, even if it is the best solo Final Fantasy ever made.
>>143560279
What the fuck is with this dev team and the constant experimentation? Don't they realise the massive amount of utterly dead, pointless content they're leaving us with as a result of trying? Diadem was dead within a fucking WEEK of release. Seven entire days.
And don't even get me started on garbage like Lords of Verminion. Nobody wanted that.
>>143560384
Thanks for proving me right with yet another unbelievably retarded post.
>>143560279
>It's just one failed experiment of the many that riddle FFXIV.
Like...? The only other failed experiment you could even possibly name is Lord of Verminion and that came in the same patch.
>>143560832
The entire Gold Saucer is a failed experiment. Poorly conceived minigames. Silly aesthetic items that with the exception of Fenrir can be obtained in a few days and then no reason to ever come back. I'm not saying minigames need to give out raid drops, but how about some reagents, cordials, manuals, materia, weekly randomized glamour pieces instead of just the fake currency? Or what about real gil?
>>143561156
>The entire Gold Saucer is a failed experiment.
No it isn't. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is. The only flaw of the gold saucer is that the community itself ruins things like triple triad tournaments by win trading.
>>143561156
>Poorly conceived minigames.
This bothers me the most. I expected them to play more like what we got with Chocobo Racing, LoV and Gates only not in an instance.
>but how about some reagents, cordials, manuals, materia, weekly randomized glamour pieces
Pretty much because MUH MARKET ECONOMY.
>instead of just the fake currency? Or what about real gil?
Be glad they didn't turn MGP into an item. They love to do that.
>>143561286
>verminion is dead
>chocobo racing is almost entirely bots because no one plays it
>mini games are all variations of the same two
>had to massively buff mgp more than once to get people to even enter the place after the first week
no
its a failure
>>143561286
Just because a handful of people still go there like you doesnt mean it was a success. Almost nobody plays Vermillion. Almost nobody does chocobo racing. Almost nobody does TT anymore now that they have all the cards. Nobody goes there just to play silly 10 second minigame machines. Anyone who was trying to get Fenrir should have gotten it eons ago. Short of this current event theres been no reason to keep going there other than people on Balmung doing ERP dates and shit.
Anybody else notice the hairstyle that looks like JP's from Redline?
Post tailboners
>>143561535
>chocobo racing is almost entirely bots because no one plays it
I'm okay with this. I just want to do my weekly challenge and not lose to some OP player.
>>143561535
>>143561575
>nobody does it
That's the fault of the community and players for not doing it. Chocobo racing and triple triad are nearly identical to their counterparts in the classic games.
>>143558839
because ffxiv's game design never was and never will be the players choice, and xi drk a shit. it was an ass backwards mmo that never rose out of the gutter it was born in.
>>143561156
>>143561535
>>143561575
>if its not relevent to me its shit.
>>143561732
>SE releases something shit
>no one plays it
>It's the community's fault no one plays it!
Are you fucking serious?
Any ideas on how to get the beast tribe armor? I was holding onto my beast tribe shekels for anima shit but that vath gear looks good.
>>143561868
Yes I am. If no one is playing it when it's a nearly identical copy of the classic versions, then yes, it's the fault of the community for not playing it.
>WOW NOBODY PLAYS THIS SO I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY IT EITHER
And thus the cycle continues.
>>143561934
No info on that yet.
LF qt to spoil
>>143560832
Desynthesis, Guildhests, dual-job classes, classes in general, actual proper SCoB-style Savage raids, GC ranks (oh boy, one new glamour gear set three years into the relaunch), company workshops, Morale (and everything from the first couple PvP patches)
Plus arguably Hunts, Treasure Maps, and everything in the Gold Saucer, soon to be joined by Aquapolis and whatever that other type of casual dungeon is called.
>>143561934
Probably a Bloodsworn reward (rank 8).
>>143561732
Its the community's fault if a game isn't fun or doesn't provide meaningful rewards? Anon I know it hurts to hear but we live in an era where players need that carrot on a stick. I guarantee you the place would be bustling if they scrapped MGP and gave out real gil or at least let you trade in the MGP for actually useful things. Then they need a system to cycle and prioritize certain events and games. Like "This week is chocobo racing week and if you win X games you get this pet/glimglam/materia" and then also apply that on a daily basis to the smaller games like the gathering/basketball ones.
>>143561868
If WoW is anything to go by, people don't do side-stuff that's for fun unless they are literally forced into it (such as garrisons).
That's the whole reason why it was forcedand still be forced in legion with the new class halls
>>143561934
500.000 gil each piece.
>>143562120
>if a game isn't fun
It's literally what the people asked for.
>or doesn't provide meaningful rewards?
The only thing they can reward are cosmetics, nothing else.
MGP is a good mechanic, fuck off.
>>143562036
All of that content is utilized other than classes and the dual-class SMN and SCH really.
You can't consider any of the rest of those failures when they're regularly utilized.
>>143562120
>wanting 5 billion bots on each mini game machine
>>143562120
>Its the community's fault if a game isn't fun or doesn't provide meaningful rewards?
It's the community's fault for being filled with people who don't know how to have fun with anything.
>IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN FURTHER MY E-PEEN QUEST IT'S SHIT
That's essentially the entire reasoning behind why people don't even try to enjoy the mini-games.
>>143560091
I dunno dude, DRK doesn't really play like PLD, but that's more an issue of PLD feeling like a half-finished, beta test version of DRK than because the two classes are fundamentally different. Both classes pretty obviously come from the same place in terms of design.
They should probably just fold some of PLD's tricks into DRK (ie: make DA Dark Dance into Sheltron, 30s cooldown with 100% proc rate, native Awareness and Provoke) and get rid of PLD, at least until they come up with an idea for it that isn't shit.
>>143562295
They asked for Gold Saucer. They didn't sign up for tiny little 10 second minigames that reward you practically nothing of value. They expected something from it. Cosmetics are SHIT and people clearly wanted more, otherwise they would keep going there for 'fun.'
>>143562654
>WAAH IT'S NOT FUN BECAUSE I THINK THE REWARDS ARE SHIT I NEED TO HAVE A CARROT ON A STICK DANGLED IN FRONT OF ME TO MAKE ME DO ANYTHING
Did you even play the original Gold Saucer in FFVII?
>>143562539
>Guildhests are "regularly utilized"
>>143562778
They aren't? Try Qing for the roulette right now as tank.
>>143562778
They are. Don't be a retard.
>>143562548
My man if a developer cant handle their own botting situation they dont need to make a game in the first place (see: Tree of Savior).
>>143562645
There is no enjoyment to be had with the lesser minigames, the ones that arent chocobo and Vermillion. They're little one button crane game style things that you have viewed the full experience of and probably mastered within a minute.
>>143562762
Get over it nerd. Rewards are important. Yes I played the original and I didn't spend much time there either. Yelling in caps to make me look silly doesn't make your argument better.
>>143561649
There is literally nothing wrong with expecting a reward for time and effort spent no matter the context.
>>143562853
>>143562859
I didn't think there were people so far gone that they'd shill for fucking Guildhests. This is unreal.
No, when something stops being offered at level 35, and hasn't received a single update in the almost-three-years since the game released, it doesn't count as anything other than a failed experiment.
The fact that people queue for it for a piddle exp bonus when they're leveling from 1-50 does not change that, and by that logic, the dual-jobstone class idea is alive and well, because just LOOK at all those people playing Summoners and Scholars.
>>143562907
>There is no enjoyment to be had with the lesser minigames,
Speak for yourself. Just because you're too bland of a person to enjoy things that are simple fun doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>143562907
>Get over it nerd. Rewards are important
You call me a nerd yet you're the one that needs to have "rewards" to get you to do something that's for fun.
>Hey anon, you want to come hang out later and do stuff?
>FUCK NO, WHAT ARE THE REWARDS? NOTHING??? FUCK THAT!!!
>>143562036
>Desynthesis
I kinda disagree. yes they could have made more with it or at least let us desynth material too, but it's a okay alternative to get material and make money.
>Guildhests
I will never understand how they never added more. I know they are supposed to be """tutorials""", but they were a good idea for quick content.
>dual-job classes
I will never understand how that was supposed to work with attribute points attached to the base class, especially considering that they wanted people to be able to play every class and job.
>classes in general
That's from vanilla XIV. They had to keep them. Still, could have made something with it.
>actual proper SCoB-style Savage raids
This might be PS3 and dev limitations.
>GC ranks (oh boy, one new glamour gear set three years into the relaunch)
That's a running joke at this point they don't want to break.
>company workshops
Could have been more individual customization, but PS3 limitations. Should have been part of private housing too.
>Morale (and everything from the first couple PvP patches)
Could have worked if PvP had their own set of jobs and not, like dual-classes, are forced to the same attributes, skills and gear like regular jobs. Could have had them separated.
>Plus arguably Hunts
That was a poor idea from the start. Again, could have been so much more yet almost killed progress in other content.
>Treasure Maps
The only shit that pisses me off is that I sometimes only get one item, shards + 2k gil, or even worse just shards and 2k gil on Heavensward maps. Not even the old maps were that shitty.
>>143563246
>moving the goalposts
You said people don't use guildhests which is objectively wrong. You got called out on that BS and now you're trying to spin it as being a failure because they haven't added more.
>>143563246
>I didn't think there were people so far gone that they'd shill for fucking Guildhests. This is unreal.
Don't be a retard. People do them everyday while they're leveling for a quick exp boost on daily.
I think I need to capture, like, three other frames of this emote.
1 healer 3 dps for wod
Aether
>>143562762
>Did you even play the original Gold Saucer in FFVII?
That's a solo RPG. We're talking MMO. so yes. GS needs more to offer to a few thousand players.
>>143563356
He actually didn't say that. You made up that criteria to prove him wrong. His point was that SE stopped using them... which is objectively true.
>>143563256
I enjoy things with complexity. The fact that you can enjoy those minigames for any length of time means you're the person with a problem.
>>143563256
Because its not fun, thus they need to back it with rewards. Typically when you 'hang out' you do something like an actually interesting game, movie, or social event. I can't imagine how strange it would be if one of my FC friends PM'd me and said "Hey bro you wanna go to the saucer together and play the crane game for an hour?"
how terrifying
>>143563583
BASED ASH CAT IS BACK PLEASE STEP ON MY DICK
>>143563356
I'm not the one moving the goalposts, you illiterate. This is a recap of the conversation:
>Diadem is a failed experiment that won't receive any meaningful future support/updates, and FFXIV is filled with such failed experiments
>What other failed experiments
>Here are some things that have not received a single update in three years
>That's not a failed experiment, there's a roulette that people do!
Like, for fuck's sake, if you're so fucking stupid that you think that something counts as a success just because it's still technically in use, then nothing in this game has ever failed, ever, because people still go to Diadem to fish, Nora still tries to play Pugilist at level 60, there's a post on Reddit about how elemental materia is super overpowered, and there's probably some autist on the official forums who pays a monthly subscription to do nothing but sit in a queue all day for level 50 Wolves' Den, to play the one match that he actually gets in a week.
>>143563583
>squidcat_suggests_anal.jpg
>>143563256
>Hey anon, you want to come hang out and pull weeds later?
>....
>anon...?
>>143563470
>That's a solo RPG.
So fucking what? It's not like FFXIV Gold Saucer doesn't have things you can play with other people.
>>143563551
>He actually didn't say that.
Really now? Because this post says otherwise >>143562778
>>Guildhests are "regularly utilized"
>>143563557
>I enjoy things with complexity.
You're being a pseudo-intellectual right now if you think it's not possible to enjoy both simple and complex things.
>Because its not fun
TO YOU.
>thus they need to back it with rewards.
This is the cancer killing MMOs nowadays. They're filled with people like you who feel like everything has to have some sort of reward or it's not worth doing.
Yet you wont even consider that it's you and your mentality that's the problem. Nope. Couldn't possibly be that, right?
>>143563796
No, it's more like
>Hey anon, you want to come hang out and smoke weed later?
>....
>anon...?
You guys are literally no fun allowed fags.
Doing your guildhests once is not regularly utilized and is poorly thought out since it ends at such a level. You can check the queue for yourself. People very rarely use guildhest roulette itself because the EXP bonus on it is tiny, so they usually just manually queue for their missing hests and move on. They need to expand upon them up to level 60 and introduce serious raid mechanics like
>Stacking on platforms with others
>Facing away from petrifaction
>Tank swapping
>Tethers of all sorts
>Using line of sight to avoid deadly mechanics
>Actually giving good rewards
This is the same issue with the beginner zone as well where they teach you the most bare bone essentials that pretty much any retard who has touched a class based game or MMO should know instead of mechanics.
>>143563681
ok pst
>>143563792
giving or receiving
>>143563854
And in the context of what he was saying by "utilized" he is right to call you out. SE hasn't used guildhests for anything since 2.1, and even that was just a band aid to get people to do two hests no one did.
These are objective facts. Stop playing semantics to dodge the point.
>>143553257
>>143564007
If people use them every time they level a new class then they are being utilized well. Something doesnt have to be used every single day forever to be considered a successful concept, especially since the whole point of hests is just to introduce new players to mechanics. It was never meant to be something that rivaled dungeons in importance.
>>143564007
>SE hasn't used guildhests for anything since 2.1, and even that was just a band aid to get people to do two hests no one did.
They actually updated the MSQ specifically to remove the Guildhests. Now instead of doing the Guildhest with the Morbol and the bubbles, you just have to kill an extra 3 Morbols on the overworld.
>>143564007
>And in the context of what he was saying by "utilized" he is right to call you out. SE hasn't used guildhests for anything since 2.1
This is where the goalposts were moved.
>>143564135
cute catte
>>143563583
moonies areSQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS
>>143564171
No, the goalposts were moved when you idiots changed the discussion from "this content hasn't been updated since it was introduced and they have no plans to update it in the foreseeable future" to "b-b-b-b-but people still U T I L I Z E it!!"
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/267575-Mount-Music?p=3711697&viewfull=1#post3711697
Reminder that it's finally happening
>>143563161
briah realizes she's a slut
kiki realizes he's being cucc'd
the screenshot
>>143564279
Re-read the comment chain buddy.
>>143564001
"Both!" -me in the back
>>143564279
Nobody is arguing the objective fact that it hasnt been updated. What we have been arguing is that just because it hasnt been updated doesnt mean it was a failed experiment. It served and still does serve its purpose frequently.
>>143564007
>SE hasn't used guildhests
ofc SE hasn't used guildhests, they're meant to be a tutorial on how to dodge shit and do certain common mechanics. Wth were they going to add after lv 35? Dodge divebombs?
Also you're so desperate to prove you're right its hilarious.
sorry for late image but this was the only imperial shit i could find
But seriously. I know it's an MMO, but there's a lot of things that waste time by design.
Like looking for maps. Why is it so random? You know I'm looking for a certain one and will get it, but you sometimes let me try for almost half an hour. I could use that time to do other things besides queueing. Like actually help other players with something. If it's not a real task to get these maps, then stop pretending random finds are actual content, Yoshi!
>>143563854
>So fucking what? It's not like FFXIV Gold Saucer doesn't have things you can play with other people.
Because it doesn't matter if people don't like something in a thing they don't HAVE to PAY monthly for. If you want me to still pay your sub for a MMO, then you better give me good content and rewards that aren't just a raid or a dungeon every three months.
>>143564163
So that's why I barely get that one anymore.
c@
>>143564352
But will Anon ever realize he's crazy for obsessing over video game drama?
>>143564524
that was wearable on lalafells*
>>143564271
>whiny little pissbaby bitch can't handle people having fun and attempts to rain on their parade
>>143564319
I hope the tachiko--I mean Gobwalker--gets Brute Justice's theme. I'd like to ride around to a goofy-fun 70s mecha anime song. If not, we'll probably get that SMT-esque one that plays in A4/8.
One healer for wod
>>143564464
Maybe you should take your own advice.
Comment 1 - Diadem is a failed experiment that won't get updated any time soon, and the game has many such failed experiments: >>143560279
Comment 2 - [Diadem is a failed experiment, because it won't get updated any time soon but] what are the other failed experiments [that are failed experiments because they haven't been updated in forever and won't be updated any time soon]?: >>143560832
Comment 3 - A list of things that fit that bill, including Guildhests: >>143562036
Comment 4 - Let me just move the goalposts and talk about uuttiilliizzaattiioonn: >>143562539
>>143564761
haha crying pissbaby
crying pissbaby
crying pissbaby
wat is the exclamation mark ppl are spamming
>>143564529
>If you want me to still pay your sub for a MMO, then you better give me good content and rewards that aren't just a raid or a dungeon every three months.
Why do you have to be rewarded for doing something that you should be having fun doing to begin with?
Video games are for fun. If you don't have fun playing FFXIV, have you ever considered that maybe it isn't the type of game that you enjoy?
Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean it's shitty either. Different people like different things. Just because one person likes chocolate, and another person likes vanilla, doesn't mean that vanilla is shit to the chocolate person, or that chocolate is shit to the vanilla person.
>>143564761
considering there are autists like guffy who literally posted 15+ screenshots by now that are just himself doing the same emote
and then every other avatarfag is also exclusively posting screenshots of the same emote
i don't really blame them
this is like chemotherapy but with avatars
>>143564785
You missed >>143562778
>>143564586
yes but only sometimes
>>143564785
You should take your own advice. If it's being used it's not a failed experiment.
Just because it doesn't get updated doesn't mean it's failed. If it's being used it isn't failed.
>what, they stopped updating this game years ago? must be because it's a failed experiment!
the samefagging is real
>>143564935
>people are having too much fun!
>hmph! hmph! HMPH! i'll ruin their fun by making fun of them! HMPH! no fun allowed!
>>143564520
>>143564489
Well why arent guildhests or the rookie place updated for important mechanics? They only cover the most barebone essentials.
>>143564902
But it isn't fun to everyone. Not everyone is you and SE has to keep those in mind who might not like certain content even if it's truly good.
>>143564935
What
I was playing overwatch
>>143565005
You realize that's AFTER the goalposts had been moved, right?
I mean I guess it's my fault for not calling out that bullshit immediately, but I honestly didn't think you people were so retarded that you'd mark literally anything a success as long as there was even one group of four people willing to queue for something in a game with several hundred thousand subscribers.
>>143565064
>You should take your own advice. If it's being used it's not a failed experiment.
See >>143563762
>Like, for fuck's sake, if you're so fucking stupid that you think that something counts as a success just because it's still technically in use, then nothing in this game has ever failed, ever, because people still go to Diadem to fish, Nora still tries to play Pugilist at level 60, there's a post on Reddit about how elemental materia is super overpowered, and there's probably some autist on the official forums who pays a monthly subscription to do nothing but sit in a queue all day for level 50 Wolves' Den, to play the one match that he actually gets in a week.
>>143565202
It's unfortunate that this is what 4chan has come to. People just trying to ruin other people's fun constantly.
>>143565202
Both sides are having fun it looks. The avatarfaggots and anonymous shitposters. Shut up faggot.
>>143564935
>Gold Saucer in Jenova
>all these hot cats and naked au ras
My dick is diamonds. Thank god for this event
>>143565235
This is true, but what can they do when those people refuse to enjoy just about anything?
When does it stop being the fault of the developers and start being the fault of the players?
The devs are human too. They can't get inside the minds of every single player to figure out exactly what they would have to create for those people to never get "bored" of it.
>>143565202
>here is a pic of my catgirl doing this new emote from a side angle :)
>here is a pic of my (same) catgirl doing this new emote from a right angle :)
>here is the (same again) catgirl but from a left angle this time, doing you know what :)
>this is fun compared to the usual which is the exact same shit except with blankface stares
HAHA just having fun guys, stop hating fun! Engaging chemotherapy !:D !:D !:D !:D
