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>>140892047
Tharja a best
Azura is shit
>>140907537
The Nintendo DLC link is broken. Replace the "I" in DLC to an L.
Mozu is easily one of the best units in the game for people who actually know how to play Fire Emblem.
Sakura is shit. Overrated artist and overrated shitster.
Rhajat loves some pickle in her poo hole
>>140907656
Good joke. I needed a laugh.
>>140907615
The links work just fine.
>>140907656
How so?
Anon a shit
Efficiency shitters are the most pretentious faggots in this general, along with husbandofags.
Waifufags are just shit in general.
>>140907656
Don't do this, please.
Never going to stop laughing at maximum faggots who've been trying to kill this general since Day 1.
Who else remembers "SRPG General" and other shitty attempts to go "This general shouldn't exist"?
>>140907683
Sakura is an artist?
Anyone else notice that Adventurers have Spear Master animations for their dodging when wielding a staff? The hop back and then the stance afterward. It's pretty odd.
>>140907683
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=56665537
>>140907709
All of them but the DLC link work fine.
>>140907709
Prove it
Copy and paste the link and see if it works
Efficiencyfags are a cancer that need to purged. They're getting worse than husbandofags and waifufags.
Witches are too erotic. Maybe I'll make Midori into one.
>>140907892
This. Like who gives a fuck about efficiency (lol?
>>140907892
t. mozucuck
Describe the sensation Hisame feels when near Ophelia's big titties.
>>140907790
Just close your eyes and walk away from the screen.
>>140907705
Mozu actually has good growth rates unlike Niles making her the best bow user on the only path that has any real difficulty.
>>140907709
Prove it
>>140907984
Why? I'm having so much fun.
What FE do I go for after Fates? Only played Awakening, found conquest to be fun.
50% cousin
20% wife
>>140907995
Growth rates is only one of 5-8 things that can make or break a unit.
>>140908129
>>140908129
>>140908129
This thread.
Battle scars wife!
>>140907683
>Sakura
>Overrated
It still blows my goddamned mind that people post about Sakura in a positive light. This general used to be completely dominated by Elise as far as the imoutos were concerned.
>>140908129
Should've posted it first.
>>140908090
You bet I'd wonder what the other 30% is, huh? I won't fall for your tricks Azura, I'm not your husband.
>>140907995
Mozu's bases kill her in pretty much every way and she shits the bed in earlygame and mobility though.
Niles is considered better because he requires much less to get going, is always relevant, and has Thief utility. Not to mention a Pass unit makes endgame so much less painful. His Strength is kind of low but there's so many ways to boost Strength in Conquest.
>decide to to pick oni savage as my spirit animal this run
>guess I won't be marrying my waifu rinkah because I want to spread this rare class to someone else
>rinkah ends up being damn good through being RNG blessed this playthrough for STR, DEF and SPD
well fuck
who else is cute and good as a fringe oni waifu anyway?
>>140908090
30% shit
>>140908086
>>140908086
>>140908086
Everyone is in here.
>>140908192
There are many units in Hoshido that can make a decent Oni.
It's just that no Hoshido girl is cute.
>>140908072
I'd give the GBA games a try. 8's the easiest one and has a world map and grindan options like Awakening. 6 and 7 are the classic linear FE experience like Conquest.
>>140908192
Hana is fun.
>>140908257
>1 IP vs. this thread's 18 IPs
Severafags are retarded, got it.
Have Chapter 18's boss
>>140908179
But then people would complain
Maybe I should've posted at 700 when the thread could still be bumped
>>140908250
Come on, you walked right into that one.
You oughta be 30% dummy.
>>140908304
Can I fuck her?
>>140908186
The whole point of Mozu's paralogue is to grind her up. Also Niles needing stat boosters to be useful shows just how shitty he is.
>>140908342
No. She's a boss.
Woooooow OUGIman's really giving me the buisness for choosing conquest
like wew lad chill
>>140907892
I absolutely guarantee your favorite character is a non-optimal shitter. Try to contain your butthurt over this, child.
>>140908072
I would start playing the GBA ones, starting with either Blazing Sword (just called "Fire Emblem" in the west) or Sacred Stones. SS is the easier game of the two since you can do battles between chapters and buy weapons and items whenever you want, similar to Awakening. However, SS has a post-game called the Creature Campaign, when Blazing Sword's "post game" is just playing through it again with a few changes. Personally, I prefer SS a little more, but they're both good.
>>140908437
My favorite character is Ougi
>>140908257
Then why aren't you in there?
>>140908304
Does Master of BS Throne Boosts Henning still exist?
>>140908360
Mozu doesn't exactly do well in her paralogue. She's ORKO'd by most things on the map. It's not like she suddenly becomes a god after that either, since even with all of those resources and time she is still going to be average at best for a while.
I don't mean Energy Drops when I say stat boosters, I mean Tonics, Meals, and the 500 units in Conquest that give +Strength GS boosts.
>>140908360
I think Mozu needing a Parallel seal to make her useful is the same anon.
And the point of Mozu's paralogue is to defeat the Faceless, not to grind someone up.
>its an "argue efficiency at 4 in the morning" midseason finale
>>140908495
You got your answer on the stream, why are you asking again.
>>140908545
I wasn't in the stream, sorry.
>>140908360
I just feel like chiming in, I don't think Mozu is as bad as people say. Worst in the game, I won't argue that for Nohr. But maybe it's just because I remember the worst characters in Awakening, and characters like Ricken or Donny are way more painful to use.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56639203
>>140907979
Ophelia's tits aren't that huge. She's quite modest compared to the likes of Camilla, Charlotte, and Kagero. This is an edited image, by the way.
>>140908437
Jokes on you, I like Ryoma and Xander.
>>140907819
heart pupils are fucking gay and I hate them
>playing a chapter for an hour
>fail
Efficiencyfags have some of the most retarded logic and paradigms around when it comes to playing the game a certain way. At least LTCfags admit that they're heavily reliant on RNG to be able to achieve 1-2 turn completions, but all efficiencyfags ever seem to go on about are muh bases, muh unreliable growths, while simultaneously praising Xander for being the GOAT unit in Conquest because he comes with amazing bases and has good enough growths to carry him along the way.
I could probably beat the game two times over while these autists were online preaching about """efficiency""", chugging tonics, or doing calculations that didn't factor in hit rate or critical avoid; maybe even marry Pieri along the way and feed her all my stat boosters so she can kill the final boss.who /AW/ here
>>140908652
I think you're gay.
>>140908470
>>140908639
I absolutely believe you, single person who I was responding to :^)
>>140908652
>heart pupils are fucking gay
That's some shit taste there anon.
>>140908662
Efficiencyfags could beat the game thrice over in the same time it takes you to make Peri into that killing machine you have described.
That's not counting in the amount of times you reset due to deaths of course,
>>140908624
Nope. She has sizable tits in IS-approved artwork featured in official game content and this can't even be debated so don't bother wasting your time.
>>140908495
Newfag here, what does GS stand for? Just the pair-up bonuses?
>>140908828
Guard Stance, yes.
>>140908828
Guard stance?
>>140908828
Guard stance and yes.
>>140908880
>>140908882
Cool, thanks.
The only thing that matters is '''''''''''''''''''''''''''efficiency''''''''''''''''''''''''''' and nothing else is important because I'm obviously better than you
>>140908924
Stay triggered, waifufag.
>>140908924
The only thing that matters ishaving fun
>>140908662
>all efficiencyfags ever seem to go on about are muh bases, muh unreliable growths, while simultaneously praising Xander for being the GOAT unit in Conquest because he comes with amazing bases and has good enough growths to carry him along the way
...A unit with good bases and growths gets praised by a community that values bases and growths? You don't say.
Growth-heavy units like Mozu tend to be frowned upon because a lot of the time it means their starts aren't good, and the start is arguably the most important part for any unit in an XP-based game like Fire Emblem.
Also crit and avoid is always a thing factored into efficiency, just go look at Rutger who gets rightfully fellated for his broken crit rates.
>>140908595
I don't even see the point of ranking characters like that. There are those units that are viable for optimal gameplay, and then there are the rest who are of little to no value.
>>140909000
Wrongfully fellated I'd say
Rutger is obviously a bottom.
Nyx makes me hard.
Efficiencyfags seem to be getting on a bit of a high horse lately.
>>140909160
>The two spent the rest of their lives together, Avatar ruling as the wise king of Valla. His wife, Nyx, was indispensable with her vast experience and magic abilities.
I wonder how this aging thing really works out.
>>140908819
Nope. Forrest has horrendously small hands in IS-approved artwork featured in official game content and this can't even be debated so don't bother wasting your time.
>>140909275
No they aren't. Peg Knights are too inefficient to utilize due to their frailty.
>>140909316
She probably just becomes some immortal queen forever, gets praised as some god. And then a new hero comes up and slays her.
>go to the lottery on my revelation file
>scarlet is there
it's so weird having the ugly dyke-lookalike back
>>140909410
But it says she spends the "rest of her life" together with Corrin in that ending. Presumably they die around roughly the same time.
>>140909000
>Growth-heavy units like Mozu tend to be frowned upon because a lot of the time it means their starts aren't good
Her growths are more than enough to make her not be a pain in the ass by level 10. How can you say this about Mozu and then talk about Xander's good growths on the other hand?
>>140908819
Already downgraded from "big" to "okay" I see
>>140905929
Honestly you sound pretentious as fuck but you do have a point, it's always the same thing whenever the topic of efficiency comes up
>someone praises X unit
>someone else disputes that unit being good from an efficiency standpoint
>both sides get pissy
>repeat ad nauseum until it just devolves into shitposting like everything else
Sometimes it does end without this, but it's definitely not on the higher end of occurrences
Like remember when we were making tiers for every class in the series but stopped eventually because of exactly what I'm describing? That kind of thing
I don't care if people think one side is "right" or "wrong", it's fucking annoying and there's no reason they can't coexist but 99% of FE communities can't seem to manage that, like seriously who the fuck cares if your favourite character sucks from an efficiency standpoint FE accommodates all sorts of playstyles anyways
Like one of my favourite chars from FE6 is fucking Sophia and you don't see me raising a hooplah whenever people call her a shit unit
>>140909129
Go to bed Deke
>>140909485
It's a generic ending. Do you really expect them to care. If you really want to be specific, you can pretend that she either kills herself or simply found a way to make her age again
I mean in my ending, evidently Oboro decides to open up a clothes store despite being the queen of some long-lost kingdom. No governing, no helping the people at all. Makes no sense half the time.
>>140909546
It's because dumb waifufags want to have it all. They want to argue that their waifu is the best at everything, even when they objectively aren't, in gameplay terms.
So sight lens or witch mark?
>>140909647
Witch. Warp is broken, witch animations are ultra bonerific.
>>140909581
How the fuck does Corrin age, is what I want to know. Does s/he get fucked out of a typically-long manakete lifespan for some dumb reason?
Post grandpa homos!
So the Anna Events are almost complete. here is the result of not having enough gold.
>>140909697
She seems legit.
>>140909697
Are you gonna make her an unlikable jew like she is in Awakening and Fates?
>>140909546
It's because of annoying husbandofags who always think that their opinion is fact.
>>140909809
She's not a PC
>>140909546
Speaking of efficiency, I really hate what Fates did with the older brothers. I'm a broken record at this point, but I hate that the vast majority of characters have trouble matching them even when trained because they have super fucking broken swords. Even when Ike was godly with that Ragnell, other characters could use Short Axes, Javelins, all sorts of things to at least keep up with him. There's no such thing here. The closest you get is magic which relies on a lot of praying and Shuriken which have low Mt. I hate it.
>>140909486
If you want Mozu to reach level 10 in any reasonable timeframe, you need to feed her. And this isn't just letting her swoop around taking kills like someone like Thany does either, Mozu needs kills specifically set up for her due to how weak she is and being in a bad base class.
10 Bowman Mozu still has bad defenses too, on top of her enemy phase being really lacking due to her class. She has decent offenses by that point sure but so do a lot of other units who didn't require nearly that much effort to reach that point.
Also getting a Heart Seal on her that early means that 2/3 of the Servant, Corrin, and Camilla have to wait for it, and they all use it much better than she does.
>How can you say this about Mozu and then talk about Xander's good growths on the other hand?
Because Xander's start is really good while Mozu's is really bad. I'm not sure how you don't understand that.
Growths are a cumulative thing, and in efficiency the less a unit needs to grow to begin being good the better. Units like Xander and Camilla are good right away and grow in a way that makes them relevant for the whole thing, which is why they get praised for their growths in addition to their bases and shit.
There are exceptions of course, like Jagen units who are really good at the beginning then fall off later, or more utility-heavy roles that don't rely on stats as much like fliers or Dancers. But with Mozu, a unit that only has combat going for her for the most part, having such a bad start greatly diminishes the value of her growths.
>>140909907
That is an awful catchphrase Anna.
>>140909610
No, it's not the waifufags. It's just you, an autist, asserting how to play a game in a very specific way; involving undefined, vague parameters, and reliance on mechanics which are very unreliable.
>>140910002
I have this theory that they made the Anikis broken so they could arouse girl players.
>>140909809
>unlikable
lol
>>140910050
But turtling and feeding is a specific unreliable way of playing the game.
>>140908624
FIRM AND PERKY
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY
>>140910185
She really is unlikable. Charlotte is a good example of how you make a character like Anna not a total money-obsessed bitch by giving her more to her characterization.
>>140909546
>Like remember when we were making tiers for every class in the series but stopped eventually because of exactly what I'm describing
I remember that.
That was actually pretty fun. I'd be up do doing something like it again but nowadays it'd probably just get drowned out by shitposters.
>it's a tumblrtards sucking Niles' cock episode
>>140910185
Shut up Annafag, there is nothing likable about your jewish hyper-material slutty wife.
>>140909316
>Wise king
>Corn
>Wise
Historians confirmed for bad judge of character.
>>140910317
>Tfw her seduction fails on everyone besides Laslow
I was laughing my ass off at how it worked on no one. She even got pissed off at how Leo was completely unfazed by it.
>>140910014
Unrelated, but why would people want to play "efficiently"?
>>140910014
Just remember that the earliest you're likely to make use of the first heart seal for most of those other units is when you have more of those available to use. Corrin typically wants to learn Draconic Hex first for softening up annoying lategame enemies, the servants want Tomebreaker to make dealing with spellcasters less annoying when changing to a class with less Resistance, and Camilla at the very least wants to grab Savage Blow first because the AoE damage from that is too important to ignore.
As for what to do with Mozume if you don't plan on making her fight things, she should at least give her Archer class to someone else who can make good use of it, since it's the only one available in Nohr. Niles, Silas, and even Effie can do well with it, as Niles already starts with bows, Silas can make use of them as a Bow Knight, and Effie's high str and decent speed are enough to take out fliers even with E ranked bows.
>>140910467
Efficiency was just a thing that came up so people could try a more objective way of judging units really. If you don't want to play with it in mind there's really nothing stopping you.
Some people enjoy it because they try to squeeze out what each unit can do via it. Like in LTC nobody would bother with a unit like Dorcas but he does get rated as just a middling/average unit in efficiency because he got a chance to show his strengths and flaws.
>>140910467
Some people like to go fast I suppose. I don't particularly care about it because a lot of the units I like to use are average/below average.
>le mozu is a good unit meme
Cutestmamuifamily.
>>140910607
What's the difference between efficiency and LTC?
>>140910434
She one of those characters where the "used goods" meme might hold a bit more weight if she wasn't so absolutely terrible at trying to seduce guys.
>>140910519
You really don't need Savage Blow on a unit as strong as Camilla. Like anything that she's not killing is near-dead anyways so it's pretty much redundant.
Also Mozu isn't really worth stringing along even as a GS bot considering her boosts are probably the worst imaginable in her base class (Skill and Luck).
>>140910693
LTC abuses RNG to get the absolute lowest turncounts possible.
Efficiency assumes things like units are at or near their averages and you're not constantly going for 20% hits or whatever like LTC sometimes does, while still trying to go through things at a somewhat brisk pace, and not taking stops to specifically baby or grind something and the like.
Also in terms of unit tiering, LTC lists tend to quite literally be "use these, not these" where any unit who isn't part of the top tier or isn't around to chip for a chapter or something gets sandbagged to death. Efficiency lists try to rate each unit on what they can really do, not always does it succeed in that endeavor but it is a different sentiment from LTC in a sense.
>>140910684
Badly drawn family
>>140910693
LTC relies on the most reckless tactics to reach the end of each map in the absolute minimum amount of turns, "efficiency" came about as a means of arbitrarily judging overall unit usefulness in a variety of situations, but I still have yet to see what is meant specifically by that term, other than some variables that get tossed around without specific weighted values.
>>140910912
>>140910863
the base most agree on for efficiency tends to be turn count and resource expenditure.
like you weigh how units use resources and perform in a setting where you're not necessarily spending 80 turns a map.
of course it gets more subjective from there though.
anyone got an efficiency list for units in fates? you guys made me curious
>>140910434
Wait you were actually laughing? Like physically "hahaha" out loud? Fucking how? The writing in this game is horrendous and her supports are the same generic shit.
>>140910434
Annafag? Is that you? I thought you left
>>140911074
Most recent list I saw from here copied from the archives, there was some decent discussion around this one
>S
Camilla
Xander
Corrin
Azura
>A
Niles
Silas
Jakob 1
Felicia 1
Elise
Gunter
>B
Selena
Leo
Beruka
Kaze
Effie
Peri
Arthur
>C
Flora
Charlotte
Keaton
Felicia 2
Izana
Shura
Benny
Jakob 2
>D
Nyx
Laslow
Odin
>F
Mozu
>>140910863
Does Camilla really even need Wyvern Lord? The stat boosts are so minimal. Is it for Rally Defense? I can get that, I just don't understand entirely since I find that the Bolt Axe can be very good on her at times.
>>140911154
Lances on her are really helpful for a few later maps, namely Subhuman slaughterfest. Bronze doesn't bother her as much since she's so strong too.
Swordbreaker is useful in 26 to bait and kill those Heroes.
Also has better growths and caps than Malig too.
As for the Bolt Axe I've seen people just dump all their Spirit Dusts onto her since Conquest has a lot of them.
>>140911020
>>140910519
>>140911020
>>140910912
>>140910903
>>140910863
>>140910693
>>140910607
>>140910519
>>140910334
>>140910467
>>140910259
>>140910050
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>>140910002
Literally nobody gives a shit. Play the game how you fucking want.
>>140909683
Thanks fampai, I used it on elise.
>>140911249
I see. I kinda get where you're coming from but I'm not sure if you need it immediately. The growths don't impact her that much in the long run since she has less levels to gain than other units. I don't see why she couldn't wait for Savage Blow at least. I'd say Trample too, but that takes a while to get.
>>140911273
Obviously people give a shit if this is one of the most heated FE debates, faggot.
>>140911154
I don't like reclassing Camilla because it gives her generic colors.
I can live without the titty and ass windows but that black/purple/gold color scheme works so well on her.
>>140911347
It's just one waifufag sperging out. I bet it's you dickhead mozufaggot
>>140908728
Would you love your waifu if she laid eggs?
>>140911339
Well you generally want her to get it sooner rather than later so she can train her Lance rank. She does only need D but if she waits too long it can easily come up sooner than you're expecting.
As for Trample you can dip back for a level or two for later on since by then you have a lot more Heart Seals.
>>140911475
STOP
>>140911395
People have actual gameplay discussion and it's a waifufag sperging out? Kill yourself Mozufaggot. Your waifu is unefficient, just accept and move on.
>>140911395
>xfag meme
You obviously don't want people to take your post seriously.
>>140911475
The problem I have with dipping back and forth is that you've basically spent 6,000 gold for Camilla just to reclass three times. Gold in Nohr isn't as hard to get as they'd like you to believe but that still seems like bad management.
>>140911538
I guess. Like I said that's just if you really want the skills, I do think she can go for the whole thing without them (although Trample is nice I'll admit, essentially +10 damage per round since she still doubles a lot by lategame).
Although I'm not sure what else would be worth spending the Gold on at that point but eh.
>>140910607
But the term efficiency and what it represents is so subjective to taste that it pretty much undermines the objectivity that it's trying to achieve. If it tickles somebody's fancy, then sure. I'm all for somebody playing and enjoying the game in a manner that they wish, and also being free to discuss about it. So why not acknowledge that other forms of play also exist and can also be just as viable or fun? Say, a no pre-promotes run or ironman turtle-fagging using a roided up Benny. What really irks me about unit viability discussion is that some people love to assume effiiciency right off the bat and be as elitist about it as possible, which hurts their point more than most. Not saying it's you, unless you were >>140905929
>>140910863
You don't need to be in pair up to raise support levels between units, Attack Stance exists, and allows for a number of units that rely on attacking indirectly to get a bit more exp and build weapon ranks as units in front of them get attacked and counter. Mages and glass cannons who do horrible in the frontlines rely on using these tactics a lot if you want them to damage things without dying horribly.
And with Savage Blow, you're investing in crowd control over reclassing early for a chance at some marginally better level ups. Even if you kill the unit you're targeting, all the others nearby get damaged, and if you kill something that's paired, you damage the remaining unit with it. And of course there's the fact that like all other similar skills you can do damage with it even if you whiff or are incapable of damaging the target with your attack(i.e. a dual guard would activate).
Also some people like keeping Camilla in Malig for Bolt Axe, but Elise or a +Mag main is probably better suited for that, if you have arms scrolls to spend.
Good night /feg/I love you
>>140911873
Would you love your waifu if she laid eggs?
>>140911689
>Not saying it's you, unless you were
Well I'm not thankfully.
I do think that any style of play should be welcomed, FE is good at allowing things like that.
People just need to be more specific about what they mean when it comes to unit discussion and not get pissy at different opinions or playstyles. That's kind of an issue that extends far past here (this is far from the first place to have this argument and I doubt it will be the last).
>>140911814
Attack Stance base Mozu? I'd rather just have the Guard meter at that point personally. The XP from AS isn't nearly enough for her to catch up fast either I'd argue as well.
I concede Savage Blow can sometimes be handy, I'd never say it isn't. But I do think Lances and the stat boosts outweigh it in the early to midgame where Camilla is the ORKO goddess anyways.
Oh boy, they're back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0That one guy spamming the ERB quote is going to be very happy.
tbqh senpai I think efficiency is much more relevant in a game where weapon durability and limited levels in supports/weapon ranks are a thing
also true hit lmao
>>140912147
What is true hit even?
>>140912024
Keeping on the Mozu thing, though she's definitely a weak unit, attack stance is probably the only thing that potentially makes her usable. Seriously, Donny wishes this was a thing. Attack stance is the savior of bad units.
>>140912191
http://serenesforest.net/general/true-hit/
>>140912139
>we can tell what's gonna happen by page and age 5
Damn son.
>>140912246
Yeah, no matter how much I shit on Mozu I'll always say she's better than Donny.
God Donny was bad.
>>140912191
tldr the RNG was skewed, hit/crit rates above 50 had a higher chance of hitting than displayed and hit/crit rates below 50 had a lower one
>>140912024
>>140912246
Attack stance isn't going to save her from having a terrible start, but it is important to keep in mind since crowds of enemies will use it relentlessly, sometimes to the point of compromising their own positions just to get that extra attack in(in some cases, even if it's going to be Dual Guarded). Good use of Attack Stance can clear out shit a lot more safely than Guard Stance in some cases, though I still have trouble getting a feel for when to use which at times, and often fall back to GS when in doubt since building Dual Guard meter is rarely ever a bad thing to do.
>>140912747
Honestly, I think part of it is the mechanics giving units like her a chance to catch up. Awakening pair up was too unreliable, a 25% chance for Donny's pair up partner to attack is still way too little. Not to mention early game Awakening is stupid and fixated on enemies having huge stats to offset pair up boosts, especially on Lunatic.
>>140912867
No, I agree she has a bad start. I'm saying that Attack Stance allows her to get kills that most trainee style units would struggle to get. She can use Effie or Corrin or someone else as a way to get levels easier, especially reclassed to Archer since she can attack without any risk to herself. Is she worth it? Not really. But this is probably the furthest a trainee style unit has gotten outside of maybe Ross.
In terms of efficiency, wouldn't spending 100 turns turtling and using Azura's tiny little healing skill to heal your units instead of wasting a staff be one of the most efficient strategies in terms of resource expenditure? Of course, from a turn count point of view, this is seen as horrible efficiency. I'm just struggling to understand what efficient play is if we're trying to factor both turn count AND resource expenditure when the biggest turtle ever could end up wasting no heals at all.
>>140913865
I'd imagine they try to find a balance to strike between the two.
You go fast, not fast enough to be a total tryhard but enough to exert elitism over casual players.
I want to impregnate elise!
I love Pieri and so do you!
>>140912867
The thing about AS is that in most cases it requires a bait to be able to pull off safely. And when you can disregard a good deal of positioning and just throw Ougi or Sisterkiller with a cookie cutter pair-up right into the fray to soften up enemies on enemy phase the point of it essentially becomes moot.
It opens up a lot of options, however. Pretty fun too. I think IS should make it so that AS gives the full exp only to the unit that attacks, so that "weaker units" can be more flexible with the mechanic. Maybe even nerf GS stat bonuses too.
>>140912867
This guy >>140914539 brought up the point I was going to
Attack stance kind of becomes irrelevant when GS boosts are still really good and you can just throw Xander with Charlotte or Ryoma with Kagero at things and watch the bodies hit the floor harder than the song in a shitty CoD montage
Like I appreciate them making a valiant effort at balancing the mechanic but pairup is still somewhat OP in more situations than it should be in my opinion
>>140914756
Honestly, it's just that 1-2 range is still too good in some areas, but in others it's too weak. It's really hard to balance. That said Guard Stance could still use a nerf. Maybe make the rate you gain shield gauge slower or something.
I want to fuck Charolette's tits
>>140915463
That'll cost extra.
>>140915649
>extra
Fuck that. I'd rather take Effie out to dinner instead.
>>140914883
Shields are perfect aside from Astra and maybe doubling. Pair up buffs can just fuck off imho familio. It's a bit dumb to get +6 str and spd or whatever from a backpack that can block enemy attack stances and also dual guard.
>>140915945
I think it could use a bit of tweaking. Think of it this way. You have a full Guard Stance. You throw yourself into a pack of enemies and you can double them all. The first hit is blocked, you double them and get 2/5ths of your guard gauge back. The second guy attacks you, then you double, and you have your full gauge again. You're only getting hit by about half of the enemies you're fighting. Sure, they put ways to get around it, but it's usually stupid bullshit like infinitely stacking debuffs.
Your waifu isokay
It is Othin who I want to fuck.
>>140915787
She's going to eat the entire restaurant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNqFhyNeibs
Thread theme
>>140917831
>furries using cuck memes
Not surprised.
>>140918075
Desu that sounds like /feg/
>>140917831
Actual thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbw4nsNpqzA
>>140918047tiki feets!
>>140916142
Maybe make it so that one battle = 1/5th of the shield gauge.
Really, I always felt that the design philosophy around attack and guard stance was a bit weird. The follow-up in attack stance is already underwhelming as is but guard stance is able to block it? They managed to utilize the mechanic pretty well though, like in chapter 9 and 10 Conquest where you had to use guard stance or you were fucked by Seal Def/Str from a Spear Fighter getting in the follow-up attack. But after that the game just loves to throw a million debuffs and NINJAS at you so backpacking loses its strategic element aside from juicing up units and building up shields. Not to mention Hoshido classes benefit more from attack stance in general because of all the debuffs they have.
I'm inclined to agree that the balance lies more in other areas, like the other anon said. Conquest enemies are just so brutal that it's easier for most people to just pair up Xander or Effie and have them get passed down a ninja rape corridor. Attack Stance is way too risky and reliant on position to be considered as good as Guard Stance, however...
How about make the follow-up attack activate from any unit that is within attacking range of the target? For example, Unit 1 is adjacent to an enemy from the west. Unit 2 initiates an attack from the east, adjacent to the enemy. Unit 2 has an option to dual attack with Unit 1, or any other units that can attack from their own positions. It would address the turtling problem somewhat and make it even more fun.
I want to brush Severa's twintails.
And with a real good hairbrush too, salon-quality.
Is Fog of War artificial difficulty? Are you glad it's gone?
>>140918831
I want to brush herbush!
>>140919061
It is.
Yes
>>140919061
I'd be perfectly fine with it if enemies had to abide by it. But yeah, it's pretty artificial difficulty.
Takumi a qt~
Where did cutest family poster go?
>>140919061
yes but now we have stupid ass snow in that one revelations chapter that just ends up being even more annoying to deal with.
>>140919557
That map is so bad.
>missed an hour-2 hour long discussion about zoomers
Ok, probably wouldn't have contributed much anyways.
>>140919061
what hack is that?
>>140907587
Damn, these tits
>>140908192
Show me the stats of your blessed rinkah pls
>>140919683
It's not a hack. It's Sacred Stones.
>>140910016
Nice filename mN.
I'm new to your Hack and want to ask, if it's a hack for blazing or binding Sword/blade
>>140907587
It really kills me that you keep doing this and then proceed to get indignant when people talk about your attention whoring ass.
>>140918345
Were there ever any kids who actually liked this show? I always felt like this was something religious parents just kind of forced their kids to watch.
>>140920142
It's a hack for Sword of Seals.
>>140920040
that map doesn't have fog
Going into a final
Wish me luck /feg/!
>>140920205
Ahh ok~.
Any Website?
>>140920254
Good luck, mate.
Marry the one you love.
>>140920376
FEuniverse.us But I'm more likely to post updates here. Also I have a weekly stream
>>140920431
Ok. THX man
>>140919206
>FE12 Fog of War chapters
>game tells you upfront that the enemy can see you but you can't see them through character dialogue
Well, at least they were honest.
>>140920227
On monster encounters, it can.
>>140920254
Hope you actually studied rather than waste time shit posting here
How old would you say Roy and Lilina are in the epilogue?
>>140921095
I think someone's done the math to get their approximate ages, but their portraits make them look 5 to me.
How obnoxious is a paired up SM on a castle throne?
>>140919061
>send Gilliam into the fog to use a torch
>a gargoyle still hidden by the fog comes out with a fucking Heavy Spear and kills him
nah, fuck that BS, senpai.
>>140919061
>Tfw replaying Advance Wars
>Fog of war maps
FUCK YOU NATURE
YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE SIDES LIKE THIS
>>140921250
I miss the demons that SS had.
>>140921359
Those gargoyles were glorious assholes in Fog of War maps. Right when it seems like I have a nice defensive formation going, they pop out of nowhere and attack a less tanky unit.
BIG sister!
>>140921095
>tfw Roy's mother is a dragon(Ninian)
>>140921359
Yeah.
>>140921550
Half dragon.
>>140921313
Didn't the DS title balance it some enemies were affected by Fog of War too?
>>140921250
>not giving Colm a torch to reveal half the map
)lol(
>>140921498
>inb4 Ghost ship(Epbraim Route)
>>140921635
Yeah, I remember it being slightly less dangerous in the DS version, but Tanks still managed to pop up and fuck up your recons out of nowhere.
Is it better to be a Nohr Noble from Conquest chapter 26 onwards? I feel that they're throwing so many tanky armoured units at me and using magic might help my already fast MU.
Also when you use the Arms Scroll will it bump up the weapon level of the primary (higher level) or secondary (lower level) weapon?
>>140921559
This one are even worse then the fucking Heroes
>thx God bishops in SS
>>140921359
>tfw the FE8 monsters will never come back due to people bitching about them being HP blobs with Stormtrooper accuracy
>>140921726
Arms Scroll gives a boost to every weapon type you can use
>>140921667
That map was fun as fuck, although I had to restart a few times due to gargoyle ambushes. In the end I had my fliers patrol the skies to prevent ambushes.
Luckily based Joshua could hold the line all day with his dodging and based "Big Boss" Ross tore through anything in his path.
I bench Seth until halfway though the game to add a little bit of challenge.
>>140921782
>Tfw fucking eyes in a fog of war map
>Exploring cautiously and suddenly you get brutal anal rape out of nowhere
>>140921607
Does she not come from the dragon gate, where only full Dragons live?
She and Nils only took human form, that they can live in eliwoods world.
Also there was sth with dragonsstones..
It was a long time ago i played blazing Sword.
>>140921905
Why is it always the Gargoyles and Mogalls being gay? Some cases Medusas.
>>140921829
>>140921667
Wasn't the "rausten at night"-mission not harder?
>>140921985
Damn, i hate these ones.
Being stoned gives your enemies +30 crot, which is rly dangerous.
Also 1-3 range
>>140921975Nergal is her dad
>>140921985
Medusas and Mogalls have dat magic range, and Gargoyles have dat movement range.
The other monsters aren't too bad, just either sort of fast or tanky. Stronger units like Seth, Cromag and Ephraim will tear those apart in close combat. Of course, chimeras and wolves are dangerous due to their dodge.
>>140922152
Fuck, I remember how scary it was to have a petrified unit and let them get critted by a cyclop.
I want to impregnate elise!
>>140920227
Random monster encounters in SS can have fog on maps that don't have it during story missions.
The Phantom Ship was a ridiculous jump in difficulty.
I also am not fond of that Defend mission in Rausten but that can be cheesed with a Warp (after you've collected all treasures of course).
Do we know if ISIS has plans for any more Fates DLC?
>>140922518
No. Afaik they said it was the final DLC but at the same time I'd expect a new Apotheosis because Fates does almost everything Awakening did.
>>140922232
Yes, also if this stone shit was only 1-2, it would be OK, because you eventually could conter
>>140922610
>Tfw have to wait for late June or July for the Scramble DLC
The worst thing is that it's over half translated by /feg/ and Tumblr already, it can't take Treehouse two months to censor and "culturally appropriate" all that dialogue, right?
>>140922232
I never saw this type of Monster Crit someone.
How does the animation loom like?
>>140922610
When did they say it was final? I thought some people said that there are some items that seem to go with DLC but haven't had one yet?
>>140922197
Some of them also had this long-range magic attack.
