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>>140901291
You're doing god's work Lister
>>140901291
>shittle mac
>>140901734
Shut the fuck up Chen
JUST
>>140904413
>yoshi's island platform eats my pkt1
you should stop doing that imo senpai
>>140905479
It looked cooler on tv familia
why are mexican so cancerous? every time I see a LUIS or a KISAGAMI online I fucking know they're latinos before checking. And yeah, to no one's surprise, they're laggy as all shit.
Thing is, they're used to the lag and perform better with those sweet 5 seconds of input delay.
God I wish we could just filter out countries.
>>140905712
>losing to mexicans
>>140905626
next is last for me bbdoll, but ggs in advanceif you ko punch me i'm going to find where you live tho ok
>>140905830
ok not that one
>distant planet
>>140905830pls_________
j/k fun stuff, thanks for the games, was a ton of fun as always
Alright gg's my man, it was fun playing with ness again, but it's getting late also.
Thanks for those long matches jacobpls don't kill me
Don't you page-10 on me asshole!
>>140907359
Let it die!
Let it die!
I don't want you any more!
1v1 anyone?
>>140910915
NNID?
>>140910969
>NNID?
It's too early for that.
Ya got melee?
>>140911170
sorry, i only play 64
>>140911176
FC?
>>140911176
True patrician
>>140911335
0420-6669-1337
>>140911464
3230-6662-2979
post cringe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khD02rLXWYM
>>140913191
>that japanese
It's been a while now and the questions has to be answered.
Did Diddy, Greninja and Luigi deserve their nefs?
>>140913898
Yes
>>140913898
>diddy
yes
>greninja
not really but sorta
>luigi
no
>>140913898
Luigi got buffed thanks to the nerf
>>140913191
>SO LONG, GAY MARIO!
not too bad honestly
>>140913898
>diddy
yes
>greninja
a little
>luigi
yes
>>140914123
How? He had one of the easiest kill set up in Down throw to down B. Now he doesn't and his grab combo game got reduced as well
>>140914125
>>luigi
>yes
You're an idiot.
>>140914276
>and his grab combo game got reduced as well
HAHAHAHAHAHA holy shit
>>140914457
I remember it being a lot stronger before the patches
>>140914427
No u
>>140914552
It was. Don't listen to them. They have no idea what they're talking about.
>>140914427
no, u
How do i get good. I cant neutral air out of shield. Fuck.
>>140915516
you disable tap jump and learn to press X and Y, for starters
>>140915570
Not him, but goddamn is that shit weird.>>140915516
Any Meta Knight tips?
Does perfect shielding a bowser bomb prevent a shield break?
Also what does disabling tap jump improve?
>>140915570
I already disabled tap jump but i use jump on my left trigger.
>>140915696
what do you mean? not tap jumping?
i find it to be a lot more useful when trying to land up tilts and shit
>>140915984
then you just need to get better at it
keep practising it
>>140915934
Perfect shielding always prevent shield breaks
>>140916015
Do you (or anyone) have any yoshi tips
>>140915934
>Does perfect shielding a bowser bomb prevent a shield break?
Yes, assuming you have enough shield to survive the second hit.
>Also what does disabling tap jump improve?
Makes it easier to move you stick upwards without accidentally jumping.
>>140915934
Meta Knight doesn't have a tip.
There are two parts of Bowser Bomb, the headbutt as he jumps up, and the landing afterwards, but perfect shielding either one should be enough to not have your shield broken
By disabling tap jump, you can do Up Bs without fear of wasting your jump. Bowser's Up B on the ground is vastly different to his aerial Up B because he doesn't have any vertical movement that way. You might also want to Up B without using your midair jump so that, if you're hit away before snapping to the ledge, you still have your midair jump to help you get back instead of being gimped
>>140916032
>>140916094
>>140916126
Thanks guys
>>140915934
>Does perfect shielding a bowser bomb prevent a shield break?
Only if you perfect shield the landing hit.
The knock up hit he does when using a grounded bomb is just a little bonus to possibly guarantee the follow up which will break your shield if blocked even if the knock up whiffs entirely.You might be able to survive blocking it if you do something ridiculous like dropping your shield after perfect shielding the knock up hit to let it regen a tiny bit of HP before bringing it back up too early to perfect shield the follow up, but that's just a guess since I don't care to look up the timings for all that and it'd only happen out of panic anyway because otherwise you'd just roll out from under him.
If he uses it in the air, blocking the landing will still break a shield. (~37% from the drop and landing together plus the 10 extra total shield damage from the extra 5 shield damage every hit of the Bowser Bomb deals)You'd technically have about 20 or so frames to drop the shield before the last three HP decays, but between shield stun and the fact that an imperfect shield means there was some decay time, blocking a Bowser Bomb is for all intents and purposes a shield break. Just don't do it.
>>140917590
it makes sense at least, it's a giant pile of steel and reptile slamming on top of you
why dedede doesn't get the same results from it i still don't understand
>>140917590
Just looked it up, the falling hit of the Bowser Bomb causes 13 frames of shield stun, and the landing hit causes 8.
I can't find anything about overlapping shield stun, but a blocked Bowser Bomb is basically a broken shield.
If there's some way to avoid it, I don't know how reliable it'd be and blocking all three hits of a grounded bomb is going to break your shield no matter what.
>>140917816
>why dedede doesn't get the same results from it i still don't understand
From a technical standpoint, it's just because of the bonus shield damage Bowser gets.
If someone shields both attacks (enabling them to be hit by every possible hitbox without getting sent flying) they'd both deal 31% (37 points of health to the shield) but while Bowser gets an extra 5 points of shield damage on every hitbox, Dedede gets 3 points on only the landing hitbox.
So while Bowser would be at the cusp of busting your shield at 47/50 health (which decay takes care of) Dedede would leave you with a manageable 40/50 with less shieldstun.
From a visual standpoint, Bowser's a swole motherfucker and Dedede's a flabby fat bastard.
They're both heavy as hell, but one's a shit brickhouse and the other's a massive water balloon.
>>140918912
when you look at it that way dedede has more reason to break shields with his super jump
water's heavy in large quantities
>>140913191
These videos are literally vocalized shitposting. They're alright, but once you've seen one or two you've seen them all though.
>>140913898
Kinda, but not to the extent that they took Diddy/Greninja. Luigi's nerfs were fair. Fireball was really good and he could literally just slam his dick on the controller after a dthrow and get 50%
>>140919098
>>140919470
but
water
>>140919558
And how much water is there in fat and muscles?
stop being ded
Why didn't the hydrant hit me?
>>140924237
Your upair canceled it.
>>140928914
Well yeah if I'd dealt it enough damage to send it flying before it reached me that'd make sense.
It just fell to ground normally after sliding me out of the way though.
>>140924237
It missed your hitbox due to you moving out of the way with all that hitstun.
>>140929625
You can't send it flying when it's still in the air like that.
Threadly reminder :
THE KEXPLOIT FOR WII U IS OUT, IF YOU WANT TO PLAY SM4SH MODS OFFLINE/ONLINE, BLOCK WII U UPDATES NOW.
TO DO THAT, SET BOTH YOUR DNS TO 107.211.140.065I made your main viable
>page 10
no
What's the link to voldemort's discord?
remember when /ssbg/ was good...
>>140930571
explain this java shit to me
>>140938581
Which step do you have trouble with?
>>140936305
/ssbg/ was never good
>>140938705
the running java -jar ect part
unable to access it comes up
>>140930571
can i do anything worth while with this
mostly pirating pokken and playing online or custom smash music while playing online
>>140941527
cant play online if put 107.211.140.065 in your DNS
>>140938998
shift right click in the folder, open command prompt. Write java -jar HaxServer.jar. If it cant find the file,maybe you forgot to unzip the folder? or maybe you dont have java 8?
>>140941638
yes to all your question
>>140941527
yes you can still play online lmao
hey /hbg/ is cakes 139 worth updating to
>>140943448
>/hbg/
>>140946719
>people talking about homebrew shit
vs
>people talking about homebrew shit
>not even 100 posts in 13 hours
>>140948271
Fuck off chazo, everyone is at work or school you fucking NEET
>>140948958
>work long days and weekends, but have sun/mon/tue off
anyone wanna play
>>140950380
>>140951931
>>140952548
pardon
>>140952707
Damn, someone posted fc but deleted it or some reason
>>140951931
>>140952548
>>140952707
>>140953278
Well guys, I finally decided to do it. I'm going to sell my Wii U along with my Wii U Pro controller.
I'm usually calm as a hindu cow, but I think Smash has given me legitimate anger issues. When I lose a match online, I get incredibly angry. I've screamed into pillows. I smashed my gamepad to pieces once (meaning I'll have to sell it without the gamepad). I broke my first wii U pro controller.
It's just not worth it anymore. My mental health is more important than a video game. And thankfully I can still play the game in person, and mercifully without the extreme lag that is a major reason for my anger.
I mean Smash is literally the only game I played on my Wii U aside from Mario Kart on occasion. It's kind of stupid to own a console for one game anyway.
Plus I'll have some extra cash. Honestly, I'm feeling pretty good about this.
Lets get this shit started! 3DS DUBS EVERYONE!!!
I'll be hosting in a few.
First come, first serve.
>>140953890
>he doesnt play mh3u, mario maker, or need for speed: most wanted
>>140954972
dibs
>>140955550
>>140955550
Dead thread with no results, guess we could play 1v1s if you're around.
>>140957675
Sure, just a moment.
Best alt costume
Anyone up for dubs?
Host whenever you're ready, Swatkat.
>>140958361
>>140958361
Ok, room will be up shortly
>>140957982
Me
>>140959123
Need 1 more for dubs.
>>140957982
>>140959851
Medeka Box!
>couldn't recognize legs
>could recognize chest
i'm sad
I still can't kill for shit.
>>140936305
>chazo is the only regular who wasn't there
not a coincidence
Stop changing your properties on me I don't know how to handle this
Who are the best wii u players?
The best 3ds players?
Tell me so I can beat them and bend the knee to me
Sorry for the wait, my dog had to piss.
>>140962290
I'm the best 3ds player
>>140961775
>can't handle the Monado dick
>>140962993
Lies boy, I heard so much about you, Fiahy the Meek.
The only fish that complains, whines, and has suicidal tendencies. I hear you play a disgraceful Marth and Mii Gunner, have you no shame?
No, I'm only after the best of the best. I hear tales of this pher and this jacob and this macfag. Sumon them to me and I will reward you greatly with tips on how not to piss yourself during battles, Fishy the Meek.
>>140964669
Jesus fuck dude
are we larping or are we playing video games
>>140962290
Best Wii u player: panchito
best 3ds player: macfag
Sorry to stop already, but I've got to go do something
Thanks for the fun games though Swatkat, I hope to play against you more, you're fun.sorry I'm doing bad today though. My Marth spacing was all over the place.
>>140965104
In a few hours I will.
Seems I misplaced my box with my other horse.
I will be back for you, Jacob the Sly
>>140965784
Stannis was a shit character and I'm glad he's dead.
>>140965642
Ggs, maybe later
>>140965642
>you'll never be this passive-aggressive
I'm ok with that
>>140965642
wanna play a few
>>140936305
>no chazo
>actually good people instead
I wish it was like this again
Fuck chazo
>>140965228
Why do people keep acting like Panchito is the best Wii u player when Dorf and Peridot wreck him
>>140968575
It's a meme you dip
It's especially funny because Panchito doesn't know how to swim
>>140968575
Because it's all shitposting from asking who's the best to saying who's the best.
>>140968575
it's probably panchito posting it in a desperate bid to stay relevant even though he loses to shitters like dorf and drowns in pools in an actual tourney setting
Haven't played a Super Smash in like four years
Is the announcer saying "SUPER SMAAAAAAAAAASH BROTHERS" back in the fourth?
>>140969049
No.
>>140969049
He said he recorded some lines of it
but in the game Nope
>>140969049
It's a different announcer in every game.
>>140969118
>>140969153
Well fuck Nintendo then.
Anybody wanna play a few matches?
>>140969501
already have a game up senpai
>>140968575
>implying I lose to Dorf and peridot
>>140970850
Where is that shieldbreak webm?
>>140970850
yeah, like that time you beat him 5-1
wait
[framerate de-intensifies]
>>140971146
I know :( I don't know if it's me also sorry for the succ i haven't played in a few days
>>140970850
>>140971125
>living this far in the past
>>140970850
>Chito and Peri have a FT5
>Chito loses 5-1
You'll be crowned Panchillin' sooner later
>>140971837
>he only took one game because peri was memeing around with mewtwo
>>140971970
>he almost lost that game
>to pre-patch mewtwo
>>140972182
>he lost to a literal FG mario
>>140971970
>>140972182
>>140972618
I could easily beat him in a FT5 now. He's slipping our last friendlies.
ggs jane gotta call it there
i need nachos
so many nachosfun games tho, ty4playing
>>140973702
Then prove it
>>140973702
Do I really need to namefag here to ask for games?
>most of Sm4sh characters can be ported and added to PM without replacing anyone
>Sm4sh modding is quickly growing and Nintendo can't do anything about it
>Sm4sh balance patches finally make sense instead of random shit like nerfing shit characters and nerfing best characters by reducing their weight by 1 point
What a good time to be alive.Now we can finally fix that goddamn CSS and Ganondorf's face.
>>140974036
ggs jacob enjoy your nachos bud
>>140974486
Yes. You need to post your NNID or FC if you actually want to look for games.
How else would people add you to their friend's list?
Don't be an idiot.
>>140974486
Anons get memed on usually so it's probably best to namefag with your NNID, at least when you're asking for games.
>>140974486
Well you'll probably have to post your nnid at some point if your asking for games but namefagging isn't necessary
>>140974486
well you need to have a name and your nnid or fc or w/e to find games yesi assume this is bait tho
>>140974524
>and Nintendo can't do anything about it
tell that to project m
>>1409747521400 calories
>>140974940
People still continue using and modifying PM. Brawl modding isn't dead either.
To revive /ssbg/ we need people to host tournaments. Who streams and has a decent internet connection?
>>140975285
well sure, you can modify anything you want for personal use. but the second you try to publicly distribute it, you're committing a crime without explicit permission of the owner
smash is only fun with other people
>>140975489
rex
>>140974167
Host.
>>140975489
Dorf, Jacob, maybe Falkore.
Rex's connection is only good when his roommates aren't torrenting porn or watching Netflix.
>>140975703
NNID pls
>>140975574
Didn't stop PMCC or many other modders. And that's for a very old game. Sm4sh mods already are uploaded and shared.
>>140975789
Let me rephrase.
Who streams and has a decent internet connection and is a reasonable person who doesn't shitpost?
>>140975489
Wasn't that the very thing that killed /ssbg/ in the first place?
>>140975915
sure, but my point is that no mod will ever have a large or even moderately sized player base, no meaningful tournaments, nothing.
it's fun to jerk around for kicks, but ultimately it's just not a big dealit's sad to think that those 1 or 2 dozen players huddled around some dusty CRTs at major tournaments was literally the height of PM competitive play
>>140976117
Kill yourself jacob you don't know anything about competitive smash
>>140976001
Jacob and Rex?
>>140976090
No.
How would people getting together to play the very video game the general was made for kill the general?
Are you stupid?
If you anything driving out anyone who wanted to possibly wanted to host a tournament killed /ssbg/.
>>140976372
Jacob enables the 3ds shitters
Rex is the clear choice. He hates chazo too
>>140976438
Rex doesn't come here anymore.
>>140976438
>Jacob enables the 3ds shitters
I didn't realize wanting to actually play Smash was "enabling."
You need that boogeyman, though. I know. You can't live life without people to blame.
>>140976431
Say someone did make a tournament and had a stream and wasn't someone who people would sperg out about them hosting a tournament. Do you really think that there would be more than 4 people that would join?
>>140976431
>>140976659
Dude...
>>140976117
Now that's a completely different thing. My point was that Nintendo can't do anything about Sm4sh modding (or even Brawl modding) growing and it getting to same level as Brawl modding is inevitable. It's only a matter of time until people start making something like PM.
>>140976685
>you really think that there would be more than 4 people that would join?
No because they were all driven away, or left, because of the rampant dramaposting, shitposting, and lack of tournaments and games.
I never said that a tournament posted in this general would thrive.
You would need to advertise it elsewhere and bring in new blood to the general.
All I was saying is that stopping the actual act of playing Smash, which is what happened to the general, is what killed it.
>>140976718
>down to up messaging
Nintendo needs to get its shit together.
>>140976718
Okay?
>>140976985
Why even bother staying here? Why not just move on to a better community that doesn't have constant shitposting and circlejerk bullshit unrelated to the game (granted it's smash so wherever you go there will be circlejerk bullshit) and just actually play the game and have fun with people. /ssbg/ is shit and has nothing left, let it rot like the decomposing corpse that it is and find a better place if you actually want to play the game.
What the fuck happened bros?
>>140977525
This https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/329187016/
>>140977452
I recognize your angryfag style posts anywhere falkore
go shitpost about friendly regulars like chronos again
>>140977525
>people lost interest on the game
>people went on to join locals
>people went on to find nicer places to talk and play Smash
>>140977831
Kek.
I like how that's the only thing that you can cling to, and it's even funnier since it's not even relevant anymore. I'm enjoying watching this shithole burn.
>>140977452
>Why even bother staying here?
Blind hope.
I don't really have any other choice for a "community" since I live in the middle of nowhere with no local scene.
That said, I've given up on trying to "fix" /ssbg/.
Last time I tried asking for games I was ignored because certain cliques were already playing with each other.
I've tried to encourage people to post 64, Melee, and PM netplay tournaments in this general. This is most for my own selfish reason since I enjoy playing all Smash, but the general could benefit from having more people in it looking to play games and play in tournaments in general.
>>140978061
It still happened. You shat on a friendly regular for tripfagging when he actually was helping this place out by playing and discussing games
You are part of the reason this place is dead
>>140977525
first was someone else's tournament that we all entered as some sort of ssbg raid back when ssbg was in its heyday
second is one of the newer tuesday tournaments after ssbg died and was taken over by 3dsfags
>>140976781
that's a fair point
>>140978356
>muh 3DS boogeyman
>>140978458
shut up
Is this a general about Smash Bros or complaints?
>>140978586
both
>>140978506
>Don't tell me that I've fabricated scapegoat! I want to remain ignorant and shitpost!
>>140978586
It's a general for dark souls and cooking. Just ask macfag
>>140978646
>I am right you are wrong!
>>140978192
Good, I tried for the longest time to discourage offtopic shit and have people focus on playing the game, but the faggots here were too pathetic to do anything other than circlejerk and shitpost. Although now that I think about it, I'm thinking /ssbg/ was a lot more worse when it wasn't dead.
>>140978143
I can understand that, but /ssbg/ isn't the only online smash "community" and you would be able to do a whole lot better than this.
All this trash aside I am bored and feel like bodying scrubs in smash bros.
NNID: Falkore / 2981 6606 3988
>>140978143
>I've tried to encourage people to post 64 ... netplay tournamentshttp://challonge.com/64prix13
Hey falkore, if you want this place to rot, then why did you fucking play with fucking chazo in his tourney?
>>140977525
>>140979123
Same reason I'm asking for games right now, I'm fucking bored and trashing players on /ssbg/ strokes my ego.
>>140978967
>and feel like bodying scrubs in smash bros.
You're sounding like the tryhard chazo here you faggot
>>140978940
Correct.
I'm glad you realize that "3dsfags" have done absolutely nothing to "take over" the thread other than being the only ones left after everyone else was run off.
>>140979301
Would it matter if I took a nicer tone? This place is dead and the few 3DS cucks who do play only play within their circlejerk.
>>140978967
i'll play some 3dsif you can tolerate no c stick
Do I bind my unused shoulder button to make easier an uncommonly used technique with a few characters I play very often? Or to make possible some fundamental techniques with a few characters I play less often?
Basically, do I want to get comfortable with jump or special on a trigger?
pic unrelated.
>>140979297
>trashing players on /ssbg/ strokes my ego.
IT's funny how you think you are better than chazo or the 3dsfags
You may not be an annoying circlejerker but you are as big of an asshole as chazo is, you pathetic angryfag.
>3DS players
Jacob
Pher
SwatKat
Horneaus
Jane
J
Pame
Tino
Rob
Rosie
>3DSfags
Hoody
Fishy
Macfag
>>140979028
thx bb
>>140978761
To be fair, talking about food isn't so bad and I prefer brief talk about other video games over whatever this is >>140978967
Not defending Macfag though.
He's cancer no matter how you look at it.
>>140979301
Please do not reply to these sort of posts, for the good of the general.
>>140979327
This, to be honest.
>>140979472
Macfag plays with literally anybody who looks for games.
Fishy prioritizes Hoody and Macfag.
I think it's best Hoody sticked to his circlejerk.
>>140979489
Host a room, I'll join in a bit.No promises
Real nigga hours (It is 7:18 PM)
Who up for some 1v1?
>>140979727
i'll play later/shortly if falkore decides he can't tolerate 3ds controls
>>140979297
>trashing players on /ssbg/ strokes my ego.
Forget about /ssbg/, anyone who acts like this is literally cancer to the smash community
Jay cub
Why did you left the discord?
I'll never understand why you people hate macfag so much, I mean ok, he tripfagged and posted off topic like twice but he's a nice and in general doesn't really seem to be that much of a nuisance like Hoody and Fishy are.
>>140979819
You'd even play with hitler, wouldn't you, jacob?
You need to stop playing with the faggots who are ruining this place or they'll never leave, you complete retard
>>140979652
>>140979992
Hey man, I was just looking for some matches. No need to be uptight about that.
>>140979909
i don't usually idle if we're not playing games or posting porn or music or w/e
>>140979727
I can play.
Heads up, I haven't really played for near a week now, so if the games are too easy feel free to leave.
>>140979916
>like twice
Retarded whiteknights like you are why macfag will never leave
>>140979909
>Why did you left the discord?
Which discord? Moxy or chazo?
>>140980336
Sounds fun! Joining
>>140980509
>Moxy
Moxy is an attention whoring faggot himself
>>140980336
Why are you such a pessimistic faggot airswimmer?
did i sd with pkt2 off the top of the stage what even happened
>>140980915
zelda mains are self-hating masochists desu senpai
>>140981095
and ness mains are flow charting tryhards
No but really airswimmer is just a freaking weirdo
>>140981095
I uptilted you before the pkt2 hit.
>>140980572
Geez. I'm sorry, Angus.
I'm literally SDing almost every match.
>>140981243
>and ness mains are flow charting tryhards
can't argue with that bb
>>140981541
o ok
>>140981551
No you're fine homie! The rust is real after a week
>>140980686
this game is twice as jank as it was a year ago
>>140982037
Kill yourself
>>140982173
>>140982328
You moxy? You were cancer from day one you attention whoring faggot
>>140982587
You keep throwing out names, bud. Gonna need a reason outside of shitposting
>>140979692
>Fishy prioritizes Hoody and Macfag.No, just Hoody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0
>>140983843
ssbg sings when
I think you won Duck Hunt, Angus.
You're a sharpshooter.
>that Duck Hunt set
Best Duck Hunter confirmed
>>140979517
send assistance
>>140985107
Whatever improves your gameplay is worth it, kiddo. If you use characters that benefit from it, go ahead.
next is last for me falkore, gonna run eat finally
ggs was a ton of funsorry about 3ds
>>140985648
GGs Jacob
When is 3ds genocide?
>>140985521
That's the problem. I play different characters that would benefit from each one. The characters I play more often would get little benefit from special moves on a shoulder because it's just making something I can already do (albeit a little inconsistent) much easier. But for the characters I play a bit less often, there's things I can't do without jump on a shoulder button. I'm trying to figure which is more worth it.
>>140986314
Well, ultimately you wanna focus on what's fun for you more often than not. Play around with it by trying each layout first, online and offline. Get a feel for each and see which one really stands out as the superior choice. Could say it's a quality vs quantity thing. Best of luck.
Anywho, dubs?
Looking for some 3DS dubs
>>140981243
Maybe he's just depressed
I wouldn't call him a weirdo
Last set for me up next
>>140974524
>most of Sm4sh characters can be ported and added to PM without replacing anyone
Really? Source?
>>140987092
ggs Angus
Hope you had fun. I know they weren't the best matches.Sorry I kept falling for Jab2 to Fsmash. I keep forgetting it sends you upwards
Solid movement on your Lucas, as always.
>>140987674
GGs Airswimmer! Really fun set, I enjoyed that set a lot.Homie you gotta realize that these are friendlies, skill doesn't matter as long as both players are having fun
Is there anything a Zelda player can do to defend themselves from Bayonetta? A friend of mine mains Zelda and has been getting really whiny about me stompig him so many times.
>>140988724
>Is there anything a Zelda player can do to defend themselves from Bayonetta?
Not really.
Bayonetta is quite possible in the top 5 for worst MUs.
Zelda has no way to approach, no real OoS options, and just about everything she does is unsafe, which obviously Bayo's punishes are literally deadly.
The best thing your friend can do is play extremely safe and turtle most of the match.
This will likely lead to a time out, though, which is unfun.
There's a small thread on Smashboards, too, that goes into things a bit more specifically.
http://smashboards.com/threads/how-to-handle-bayonetta-as-zelda.434628/
Show it to your friendand beat them anyway because you'll know exactly what they'll try to do to counter you
>>140988724
>the friend I play with whines about x etc
Why do I see this posted so much, it's not your fucking job to babysit them dude
>>140990213
He's the most easily available irl smash partner. Trust me, I get fucking annoyed when he's in a whiny mood, but at the end of the day I'd rather have him there than not. It doesn't help that he's myex-boyfriend, but at least I feel vindicated when he's being shitty.