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Luke Skywalker edition
A thread for all simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
>Thread trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0NUJTjkpIM [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
>/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile
>BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
>Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
>Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY
>Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r
>FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ
>/dcsg/ music playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7AgadRWtOf0c6jagM4JVjN4
>OP pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg
>Example of welcome sims:
DCS World
Falcon BMS
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015
>Example of non-welcome games:
Arma 3
Ace Combat
War Thunder
World of ____
BMS ops WHEN
>>140445382
ban greg when?
http://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthread.php?26567-Falcon-BMS-4-33-U1-Full-Installer
4.33 update 1 link for anyone trying to get into BMS
>tfw my autism folder isn't worth of OP materal
feelsbadman
>>140445493
ban greg when
>image that has nothing to do with the thread
Oh boy, ctrl+F for the next few days it is.
HEY GUYS IS THIS THE NEW /wgg/ AFTER WE TOLD YOU PLANE-AUTISTS TO FUCK OFF??
>>140445726
fuck off
>>140445726
>click search
>simg
>>140445726
This. Does it really take that much effort to post a fucking vehicle related image?
Teamspeak was a mistake.
>>140446415
ok punpun
Migrate here.
>>140446738
>>140446795
but we already have a thread here?
>>140446795
FUCK OFF BUDDY
>>140446795
fuck off.
>>140446795
Wut do? Should we switch to the new thread, even thou this edition is funnier?
>>140447001
Let's stay here and encourage the cancer, we obviously need more shitposting.
How can /simg/ possibly survive without TS shitters shitting the place up?
>>140447218
This anon has a point, but the idea is typically not to smear shit all over the outside of the building as to not scare away potential newcomers.
>>140447218
TS fags created /simg/ and we make up a majority of the posts and content. A few random asshats shit up the thread and everybody goes reeeeee TS fags get out. Don't fall for it. This is the work of of resident turkroach fuckhead who should be banned.
some cool shit before i go to bed: https://imgur.com/gallery/fZe7T
>>140447750
>its not TS i swear
>but fuck that guy on TS he fucks everything up
>>140448224
>post contains a facebook frog, which is like saying "I'm a huge shitposter pls report me on sight"
>>140448162
Dank pictures, thanks anon
>>140451386
Where's this from?
>when it takes you more than one day to get good at a thing
>>140453963
Such teammate, such coordination.
Speechless
>>140455123
Like?...
>>140455319
Had 60 seconds till mission reset so..
>>140455720
I see, wut game?
>>140455319
sabre divebombing m8
why does every guide for manual bombing i can find contain illegible technical wank
rip engine
>>140452952
DCS
>>140457243
Seems like a guide that isn't going to be very helpful....
I'm thankful for peeps who make guides, but if we're really looking for guides the chances are that most people are look for simplified or (maybe even) dumbed down to-the-point guides. =/
>>140457243
Maybe this is a simpler guide for you?
>>140458019
Surely not
Now, where is it really from?
>>140458152
Cliffs of Dover.
>>140457521
what server?
>>140458690
never mind, just saw the ad in the feed
Blue Flag can't start soon enough, even if it's fucked.
I can't wait to start slaughtering these turbocucks on the forums. Holy shit, we're going to be reaping them like wheat. These people really will thank you for impaling them with a 30-inch spiked horse dildo.
>>140460485
>I heart FAB
okay, I kek'd.
>>140460883
Welcome here, newfriend
>>140461604I've been lurking for months, just don't join the TS. I remember when this shit was /fsg/ and then /wgg/ respectively. sup?[/spoiler}
GODS PLANE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dRDWe_kOwM&feature=youtu.be&t=65
>1:16
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>140463050
right on cue
Do you ever sleep?
Speaking offalsegod's plane, did the F-15 ever do any of that ballerina shit at airshows?
You know. Stuff like flat spins and other crazy maneuvers.
>year is 2017
>Blue Flag round 14
>blue side has A-10's, F-14's, F-15's, F/A-18's, A-6's, Viggens and the Mirrage
>red still has its shity Baby Cliff jets and the Fishbed
Great times are ahead of us, soon the ground witll be full of slavshit wrecks - just like IRL.
>>140463869
Don't forget, the Blufor side will retain access to Redfor's planes, but the opposite will not be true.
>>140464069
Why would anyone use redfor planes on blufor when blufor will have enough planes to fill all roles?
Nobody is gonna need the snowflake 25T when the F/A-18C comes out.
In the rotary section if they finish the Cobra there will be no need for the KA-50 on blufor.
More likely redfor will need blufor planes. But then again we can be sure that the 14 and 18 will be released around 2032 at this pace.
>>140464505
>2032
Ouch
>>140464505
>he thinks the Cobra and F/A-18C are actually coming out this century
I don't see why Blue Flag has to be tubo-autism "realistic battlefield" mode, "planes and mercs" mixed NATO/pact coalitions are more fun/diverse anyway.
besides, it's not like Egypt can be consistently counted on to do what the West says. They operate the Mirage, let that shit be on redfor as some sort of wacky TOM CUHLANCY wargameporn situation.
Shit, there's a fuckton of western-allied countries that operate variants of the MiG-21, let Blue have it as well, for fuck sake. The proposed logic for limiting these two planes to Blue/Red respectively doesn't even hold up.
>>140463386
GPDF never sleeps when you have delusional slavboos running loose in the thread. Whats wrong friendo you don't like my spicy meme?
>>140464956
>>140465970
>this one murican jew gets triggered by slavs and slav planes so much, he makes multiple paint memes a day in hopes of getting attention in the thread
Fucking pathetic 2bh
What time period is DCS supposed to be in, anyways? Russia-Georgian war of 2008?
Since the R-77 was put into service in 1994, does that mean we might see the Su-30 or some other Su-27 variant which could carry it? Maybe a Mig-29M or Mig-29K?
>>140466487
Essentially yes, but no one's allowed to say that for POLITICAL REASONS.
Really it's based around whatever the fuck you want to play, the Caucasus map was in use in Lock On/Flaming Cliffs before 2008 and before DCS existed, however.
Seriously, look at the FC3 campaigns, most of them are pretty obvious.
>>140466487
DCS is set in 2008, but Baby Cliffs is around 85 or so if you go by the tech.
HOL' UP
>>140467386
WE DA BOYZ
>>140463679
Of course not, western airshow shit, is usually look at this plane flying straight.
also the west does flat spins at really high altitudes.
>>140466748
>Babby cliffs is 85
>aim-9m
>Aim-120C-5
sure thing.
DCS is mid/early 90s ya numpties, the only plane contradicting that is the A-10C.
DCS has no set time period because it was never coherently designed to be one theater. It's just a grab bag of whatever people are willing to develop.
The closest to a set time period comes from back in the LOMAC days when the game was supposed to loosely represent the Georgian conflict, but ever since then that content has expanded in different directions.
So blue flag, they moved the mirage off of red because realism, but blue still get mig-29's?
Sure is balanse.
>>140475384
SU-25 came into service in 1978
MiG-29 in 1982
SU-27 in 1985
F-15C in 1985
A-10A in 1976
Don't base weapons as a time period indicator but the avionics of the aircraft since the 120C was made to be compatible with the APG-63 for example.
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2760057&postcount=71
Cheater fags BTFO, leavu devs buttblasted.
>>140478953
Also what this guy said >>140477815
DCS is just a mess with 80's jets with some new missiles on it.
The F-15C campaign Bear Trap is set in 2011 where the new radar, aim-9x and HMCS were already being used on them.
BMS ops WHEN
GAZELLE
A
Z
E
L
L
E
IS OUT
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/modules/gazelle/
>>140483808
Why do people even care about it
It's a boring as fuck module
>>140486683
Because itty bitty little helicopter
>>140483808
aaaaannnnd bought. Gotta wait until tomorrow to download and play it though.
>>140456487
Every time I try bombing with the Sabre, I set all the switches and stuff according to the instructions but then the bombs never drop when I do the bombing run. No matter whether I hold down the button or mash it repeatedly or anything else, the goddamn bombs just never release. Am I retarded or what am I doing wrong?
>>140468325
>DA BOYZ
Da fug did it come from?
>>140492632
hownew.ru
>>140492875
>hownew.ru
?
I don't get it
>>140493084
What? You forgot your account details?
L M A O
>>140493615
shut the fuck up and lurk until you do
>>140493615
That site's author done goof'd.
>>140486683
It's fast as fuck and has ATGMS, why not want one
>>140493894
>It's a less capable KA-50
Awesome
>take off
>fly to target area
>blow up 2 to 4 tonks
>fly back
>>140493894
It's also the first not shit Brit aircraft
How many weapons does mirage have? Is it comparable to the ammount of stuff mig21? Is it worth it?
>>140493724
Fret not, my son.
Your life's gonna turn up just fine some day.
>>140495026
>life's gonna turn up just fine some day.
>simg
Exhaust flames are fucking cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZzvKCQwWj0&ab_channel=Finyo109
bimp
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/special_offers/dcs_gazelle_plus_dcs_nevada_bundle/
Is this a good deal?
>>140499570
No, it has grey sand map in it
>>140499978
Yeah but if I were to get the gazelle then why not do it when it's bundled with a map for an extra 15 bucks
>>140491569
Have you set the variable sight selector to bomb (bottom left circle) and the demolition sequence selector switch to ALL or LEFT/RIGHT (bottom right where it says DEM BOMBS)?
>>140504138
ALL DEM BOMBS
>>140508765
:D fug
A neoconservative American pilot, Lockheed-Martin engineer, SDI supporter and NATO officer was teaching a class on the M1 Abrams, an American tank
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship General Motors and accept they designed the best tank in the world, impenetrable to any round the world has ever known thanks to depleted uranium plates, even superior to the T-80U”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic Spetsnaz officer who had served 1500 tours of duty in the Great Patriotic War and understood deep battle and fully supported all military decision made by Leonid Brezhnev stood up and held up a photograph of a burned out Abrams.
”How was this tank lost, burger?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied “It was blown up by its own crew, you stupid vatnik"
”Wrong. It’s been 10 years since an RPG-7 penetrated it. If it was modern technology as you say, and was well protected, it would have reactive armor”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Red Storm Rising. He stormed out of the room crying those American crocodile tears, the same tears Americans cry for the Afghan "children" when they smuggle Stinger missiles over the border to kill brave Soviet pilots.
The students applauded and all joined the mechanized infantry that day and accepted Lenin as their lord and savior. A bear named “Soviet Doctrine” walked into the room and climbed atop the Soviet Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. Red Army was read several times, and Zhukov himself showed up and placed S-300 batteries across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died when his F-22 suffocated him and was mocked for all eternity.
Ura.
>>140510217
>The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died when his F-22 suffocated him and was mocked for all eternity.
10/10
>>140510217
>He died when his F-22 suffocated him and was mocked for all eternity
>Not dying when your F-22 crosses a time zone and the computers freeze.
>>140510825
>time zone
You mean the date line, right?
BMS MISSION TODAY (27 APRIL) 2045 UTC!
Theater: Balkans Theater of Operations
Package 742 - Strike at Split
Package strikes Split Power Plant and an Underground Factory in order to lower enemy's capacity to wage war.
Package Intel - feeling lazy today, no intel. sue me :^)
Flying F16CM Block 50 out of Ljubljana
2 ship Strike - Gypsy 2
2 ship Strike - Serpent 3
2 ship SEAD - Snake 3
2 ship Escort - Stud 3
!WE WILL BE USING IVC AND """ATTEMPT""" TO USE REALISTIC BREVITY TERMS AND COMMS!
Since you guys seem to hate my TS, we will be using the /fsg/ teamspeak. Gather there.
BE THERE AT 2045 GMT
Mission brief will start no later than 2100 UTC
Important:
You have to know the basics if you want to play. By basics, I mean you can fly, you can land, and you can use the radio. You also need to know how to shoot AIM120/ AGM88/ Drop bombs.(delete as appropriate)
LAST NOTE: There will be fuck ups. Also I won't be making ops for a while. Uni work is piling up and I need to finish it. After that around the middle or late May I'll probably be going to Poland.
This'll very likely mean no ops for a few months. IDK whether I'll be able to stay up at night shouting brevity (since I'll be staying with my
grandparents) let alone take my gaming PC.
>>140512773
you are a cunt
>>140512773
29th April not 27th.
>>140512773
>wrong date
>No intel
Just like a real military op from my experience
Anyone got Reshade working with IL-2 CloD? I cant get this shit working.
>>140508765
VEAO is doing the F-16?
>suddenly, forumcucks calling 373/Buddy Spike out on their bullshit
have I traversed into a parallel dimension?
Of course, Buddy Spike admins still refuse to pay attention to anything that criticizes them.
>>140510825
>Not dying when the F22 crosses the equator and flips upside down
>>140516536
Buddy, you've got the wrong door.
>>140515265
Show the e-drama ye fag.
>>140516627
I did. excuse me. Wrong thread came up in the catalog.
>>140515265
>buddy spike gets btfo so hard they cancel blue flag
I don't know how I'd feel.
Why can't they just try not being retarded?
Give the community what it wants. Why would you fight back?
Honestly someone should just take their code and run it them selves. We could have it run all the time, instead of once every three months.
We could rotate the types of scenarios after every match (modern, 80's, strict Russia vs US scenarios)
>>140517139
>Give the community what it wants. Why would you fight back?
Because they fly on Blufor, which is coincidentally the side they're handing every advantage to.
>>140517139
>Shit-21 radar doesnt work
>Baguette 2000C crashes all the time
>4 ATGM "tank killer" helo just came out
>Fuel system not resolved/fixed
Geee I wonder why they need to postpone BF.
>>140517515
Baguette doesn't crash so much as of last week's patch, anon.
At least not for me, seems like the radar-related shit was fixed.
MiG-21 still busted as fuck, Gazelle won't be on 1.5 for a while, and their fuel system is admittedly still busted.
I don't expect it to start until next Friday, I don't know where everyone got the "April 29th" figure from, it never seemed reasonable to me.
>>140517697
The April 29th figure came from BuddySpike themselves.
F-5 WHEN?
>mfw never
Also I don't understand why nobody did T-38, if they're making a trainer. It would make all the pilot wannabe burgers go crazy.
>>140517697
Did they fix the stupid shit when an M-2000C gets a jamming contact on scope it crashes?
>>140518160
Yes
>>140518160
Yeah, but the Mirage still doesn't have much real way to counter being jammed, so you're not much better off now than you were when the shit crashed when a jamming contact was picked up.
>>140517849
Oh great, so Buddy Spike really is retarded.
This is what we get for letting Greeks and Israelis run community functions.
>>140519072
They had a hopeful figure on the interactive map that was April 29th, it's since been removed for obvious reasons
>>140517861
A newsletter a week or two ago said that it'd be entering early access "within the month," so you can expect it to be available sometime before 2017.
Actually, knowing Belsimtek, it'll release relatively on time and just be in beta forever, though pretty much mostly functional for all of that time.
>>140517861
fucking anything when at this point
ANYTHING
WHEN
>>140519494
>Gazelle releases
>2.0 only
If they do this with the F-5 I'll be kind of mad, truth be told. The Mirage was able to release simultaneously across both versions, why not Gazelle?
>tfw DCS is irredeemable hot garbage
Why man. Fucking. Why.
>>140519494
>tfw blueflag canceled
>tfw f5 gets delayed
>tfw gazelle is actually a piece of shit
>tfw still no mig25
>>140508765
F-16Dobson
>>140520204
We've all been saying for weeks that the Gazelle would be a piece of shit and of extremely limited utility.
Even if it's a nice chopper, it's kinda useless when other things can perform its role faster and better.
>>140520190
Because we are all sinners.
>Captcha: WEEPING WILLOW BLVD
There is a realistic chance you will die before playing either of:
F/A 18
F14
F5
How does this make you feel?
>>140520645
There's a realistic chance I'll die before I play the fucking mirage since I'm waiting on a sale.
I feel good
>>140520645
joke's on you, I'm a NEET and perfectly safe in my fortress.
>>140517490
>>140519072
>Because they fly on Blufor, which is coincidentally the side they're handing every advantage to.
>Greeks and Israelis run community functions.
It checks out.
>>140520204
>no MiG25
Stop, it fucking hurts too bad.
>you will never, ever, intercept a wave of nuclear equipped B-52's attacking the mother land in your Mach 3 meme machine while flying in formation with da bois
>you will literally, never fucking ever fly MiG25s in a desert setting, causing immense butt hurt as you evade an F-15's 10 AMRAAMs as you escape at the speed of light.
>you will god damn literally never ever turn your radar on while on the ground just to fry Crazy Ivan inside his Gaz truck to prevent future operational accidents
Fuck my life. It's not worth living.
>>140521078
When nationalistic shitskins are put in control, everyone loses.
>>140521172
I just want the fucking MiG-23, which would be absurdly easy for Leatherneck to do after having mastered most of its avionics and systems with the MiG-21bis, and having figured out variable-geometry wings from the F-14, but will probably still never happen.
MiG-25 would be really god-damn fun, though, maybe multi-crew won't suck dick in a year or two and it'll become possible.
>>140521515
>When nationalistic shitskins are put in control, everyone loses.
But greeks usually hate the natoz.
>>140521593
Their country flies the Mirage 2000, and the team they fly is the only one allowed access to it.
Explain that shit.
>>140521775
I cannot.
>>140517861
I wish somebody did the t-38.
It was the first supersonic trainer and also the most produced. Gods trainer desu.
>>140523379
>implying
>>140523379
>un-ironically wanting yet another fucking trainer aircraft
Please kill your self irl
Ban Greg when?
>>140524319
>DCS currently has more fully-simulated trainer aircraft than fighters or air-to-ground attackers
>actually exactly as much
>A-10C
>Mig-21bis
>Mirage-2000C
>L-39
>HAWK
>C-101
If you include Ka-50, it's 4 fully-simulated aircraft, I didn't because it's not fixed-wing.
Trainers are cool to dick around in for an hour or 2, but after that they are just 'meh' planes really. Right now they just seem like a multicrew test. Sure full fledged fighter aircraft are more difficult but I'd rather devs develop a fighter for twice as long than to give us another trainer that we can't actually use.
>>140526151
The trainers pretty much are just a multi-crew test, and only one of them currently supports multi-crew if I recall correctly.
So 2/3 of them are fucking useless entirely.
>>140525703
>PC Gamer
I think a random dude that never plays video games has more authority.
>>140517139
Is their code public?
>>140527738
This is DCS what do you think.
Would a Logitech 3d with a Delan head tracker be good enough for BMS? or should I drop some money on a HOTAS?
How do I make FSX not crash after like 10 minutes? terrain.dll on windows 10
>inb4 >windows 10
>>140527971
I play BMS with a 3D and TrackIR.
It's doable, but I'm used to using my keyboard for everything I don't have binded.
There's a video on YouTube by a guy named Krause who uses a 3D and has recommended bindings.
I binded my stick like his, and use defaults for everything else.
Is there an online "community" to speak of? Which game is it for?
>>140525397
>>140517139
>greeks running a major community event
NEVER AGAIN
>>140527971
I regret not getting a HOTAS for basically any sim. You might end up in the same boat. Its doable, but eventually you might want one.
Gazelle is going well.
>>140530347
What this guy said desu.
If you can afford it, just save up for x52 pro. it's entry level cheap Saitek shit, but affordable (when they're actually in production) and have enough buttons/toggleable modes that allow it to cover basically everything you need bound in DCS and BMS.
3D Pro is doable, though, just a pain in the ass. My issue was never so much the lack of buttons as its stupid fucking little throttle slider.
>>140528358
Its a wild guess, but check if the crash happens when the ram usage reaches 2GB.
>>140530402
Does it have British skins?
Is it worth buying it bundled with NTTR?
Mig 21 is still fucked in 2.0?
>>140530649
I'll check and get back to you
>>140523379
How about just an F-5?
>Gazelle
WHY
WHO EVEN WANTS THIS GARBAGE
>>140523379
Fact: trainers are used in real life because they are cheaper to produce and cheaper on fuel
The only reason why DCS releases so many trainers is because its cheaper to get the rights, easier to get systems info and they're simple to develop and they want to fleece people with a slow drip of trainers.
>>140530649
It has this 1 UK skin.
It's too early for me to say if it was worth, but if you have bonus credit you can get it for $15 off.
Sand is worth for some, if you are going to get it get it with gazelle, I hardly never play on sand.
>>140531645
Can't a Ka-50 carry more vikhrs on one pylon than the Gazelle can carry TOW missiles in total?
Literally a fucking worthless chopper in its own intended role.
>>140530580
that'd probably take a bit to check, but in case it turns out that way what could be done anyway? I thought the steam edition was large address aware and should be able to use up to 4gb
slightly older version from a torrent, maybe that has to do with it? not really about to buy a game that crashes like this to find out desu
does fsx just leak memory like a sieve or what? how do people play with these ultra high detail pay addons for more than 5 minutes in that case?
>>140531778
Polychop has confirmed free updates with different armament including a sniper team.
We gon fuckin snipe F-15 pilots with a barrett sticking out its ass.
Really though you can say it's useless compared to the Ka-50, which honestly it's probably true but it is still seems fun to use.
>>140531778
I would rather fly a civilian two seat chopper and put a GBU in the passenger seat. I'd hover over my target, tilt the helo and let it roll out.
>>140532021
>sniper team
Okay, that seems neat.
I 'hacked' belsimtek, they're making an SU-24 and an F-111. Also F-15A with clickable cockpit.
>>140532351
>I 'hacked' belsimtek, they're making an SU-24 and an F-111. Also F-15A with clickable cockpit.
PROOFS
>>140532351
>>140532858
SHOW PROOFS COMRADE
>>140531695
Ayyy we AAC now.
They're at least going to add SNEB rockets because it doesn't make sense not to if they're adding more weapons
EVERYTHING I HAVE PROPHECISED HAS COME TRUE
I AM NOSTRADAMUS
373 UNFAIRLY GAMING BLUE FLAG SO THAT THEY CAN WIN! EXTRIE, EXTRIE, READ ALL ABOUT IT!
>>140533690
Is this a joke
>>140532276
"Later, free upgrades to this module will feature Gazelle versions armed with a GIAT machine gun, rocket pods, Mistral anti-aircraft missile, and sniper team in rear compartment"
>>140533756
ur a fuckin joke bitch
>>140533690
How do I join this gaming community?
>>140534478
start sucking the cocks of buddy spike admins and make an account on their website.
Fellate them enough and maybe they'll let you help them run stuff.
>>140535031
I just want fry prane
I don't want to manage things in my free time, are you kidding me?
>>140531308
Well, T-38 is kind of like a two-seat F-5, no?
I wished people made T-38(C), instead of C-101 or wherever it is.
That was comfy
>>140536689
idk why mission failed on them all. Snake got an sa10 and sa6 radar. Escort got 6 for the loss of 1. strike packages unfortunately didnt have great effect on the assigned targets but the enemy air took a considerable dent this evening.
>>140445669
I would've put it in the OP, but look at how fucking great the current one is.
>>140452952
Area 88.
>>140536689
>that flight that almost pulled an tenerife at the end
>>140537259
I am fairly sure that I hit the facility ,but not "destroy" it. Oh well ,it was certainly a success either way
>>140537627
Tener ife?
>>140538621
>>140537259
>turns onto its nose
If it had not wasted its 2nd heater youd be dead
>>140538621
>avenged his fallen comrade
Im proud of the AI.
This clusterfuck was fun
>>140539191
tumbleweed + night. plus noone said i was actually gud :^)
Can someone please explain how to get consistent with unguided bombs in DCS, particularly the Sabre
Why does entering at different altitudes change what setting you put the pipper at? What do you need to do to get consistent accuracy?
I keep following the settings, releasing at the given angle but it often drops short or long, sometimes even to the side. Am I supposed to release at a certain altitude? Am I supposed to release at 1G?
>>140537259
Is that Snake 3 landing? That landing was amazingly cool.
>>140540001
You see comrade , when theres a missile incoming , you pull the plane very hard .
>>140530580
alright yeah it just hovered around 1GB usage the whole time, it seemed to happen while I was using mouselook if that's anything to go by
>>140541793
https://steamcommunity.com/app/314160/discussions/1/622954747288223523/
something will work for you
>install 10,000 horsepower mod for shits and giggles
>going anywhere near the throttle puts me at 40+ mph almost immediately
time for some supersonic trucking
holy shit
>>140541978
I guess I can try. It seemed to extend that guys flight time from 45 mins to 5 hours, and I'm not autistic enough to fly for 5 hours straight.
>>140541278
>>140540001
>>140539191
>>140538621
Dam, looks fun. Wished I was there, but classes got in my way
>>140542480
Did that for some old truck game I had. Literally crashes my game when I touch my accelerator key.I edited the save file so I would've ~1,000,000hp
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-warplanes-idUSKCN0XQ2BV
DANGER ZONE
>>140540639
Before bombs were upgraded with smart guidance / targeting systems even "modern" A10s frequently missed
gods plane
>>140545107
F-16 is the gods plane
F-15 babies can jump off a flaming cliff
>>140544997
I read that Rudel divebombed hundreds of tanks in a stuka, so there must be a trick to it.
BMS ops WHEN
>>140545471
Butthurt
>>140545563
>muh lemons
>>140545563
This man fights for your memes.
>>140545626
>slav using the butthurt meme
They're learning.
>>140540639
Biggest factor is the wind
You need to add wind correction for atleast 2-3 different altitudes if you intend to release the bombs above 10 angels
>>140545275
>F-16: 76 kills and 1 loss
>GODS PLANE: 104 kills and ZERO LOSSES
F-16 fags btfo.bms fags on suicide watch
>>140545404
Well, he flew hundreds of missions.
Do the math, anon. He probably missed a lot.
>>140546092
Whatever makes you sleep better at night
>>140546241butthurt
>>140546383
>slavaboo
>>140546383
Its so pointless to argue with a complete idiot on the internet
>>140546525
>m-m-mom somebody doesn't like my plane on the internet
F-15C is the plane of God, God of all planes.
F-16 is a shit.
>>140546145
with infinite ammo and fuel on, fast fwding time, and quick restarts i have probably done more practice than he had
he just understood the theory
>>140546895
That's nice, anon.
Now do it 2500 more times. I don't think you comprehend exactly how much time Rudel had behind the stick because the Luftwaffe didn't rotate pilots.
gods plane.
ban F-15 poster when
he shows up unprovoked, and then calls butthurt when people tell him to fuck off
literally the worst poster in this thread
>inb4 butthurt
>inb4 slavaboo
>inb4 gods plane
Literally did your job for you mate, what more do you have to say.
>>140547042
You can only carry so many bombs, you have to go back and rearm and also take time getting up to altitude and to the range.
In the amount of time it takes to do a real practice run, you can place the aircraft at the run in point in the editor and do a thousand attempts by reloading and trying to get the technique right.
There is proper theory behind it, there's just hardly any guides for DCS because no one does old school ground attack.
Its a shame ED doesn't acknowledge the existence of its multiplayer.
Even a simple persistant mode like what BoS has would be great.
A bunch of objectives around the map, and something to do for every air frame. The team that actually does the objectives wins.
I'm starting to realize the only reason I like Blue Flag is because its the only time DCS actually comes close to other sims.
Someone needs to just steal Buddyspikes code and just host their own fucking server 24/7
>>140546895
>infinite ammo and fuel on, fast fwding time, and quick restarts
I seriously hope this is just shitty humor and you're not being serious.
>>140547643
I don't know if you can infiltrate their shit, and steal the code, you are welcome to.
>>140547471
wow thanks for the dank meme material m8
much appreciated.
>>140547719
my point is there is more to bombing than pointing at the thing and pressing the thing, and there is no guides on what 'more' is
>that feel when you remember your first gods plane post
feels good
>>140547908
>israeli flag
o i am laffin
You should join the US military and die fighting for them since you love their big hairy jewish cocks in your mouth so much.
>>140546589
Why does it have a ZZ tail flying over some place that looks arid?
>>140545997
Even with wind off I don't know what the proper technique is.
All I'm given is an altitude and speed to roll in at and a pipper setting for the angle at release
Nothing tells me what altitude to release at, what G or other factors to determine release point
>>140548169truly butthurt
>>140548263
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_Wing
>>140548391
I was part of the 18th WG for 4 years. That's why it doesn't make sense, at least for a light grey 15.
Teamspeak was a mistake. /simg/ was a mistake.
>>140548693
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/67th_Fighter_Squadron
>>140549061
Leave.
Also what does the teamspeak boogymen have to do with anything?
>>140549194
>Also what does the teamspeak boogymen have to do with anything?
Regards, totally not a shitposter from the teamspeak.
>>140549061
go become a janitor and ban me then faggot.
>>140549389
>killing AI
>GOD'S PLANE
gods plane
>>140549389
>defeated an ER while getting a kill with a 120
>on AI
When do you get your pilot slot? Lmfao
>>140549069
"For the past 35 years, the squadron has operated from Kadena Air Base, providing air defense in the Far East."
The closest they get to arid is Darwin, Aus. Okinawa and surrounding areas are not arid.
>>140550068
>responding to a shitposter that gets his information from Wikipedia
>with real-world knowledge and experience
I don't know what you expected, anon.
>>140550329
What do you mean?
Good/accurate info is always welcome, no?
>>140550329
>>140550068
>An U.S. Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-15C Eagle (s/n 85-115) from the 67th Fighter Squadron, Kadena Air Base, Japan, breaks away from a Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker assigned to the 185th Air Refueling Wing, Iowa Air National Guard, after being refuled during Red Flag 09-1 at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada (USA), 24 October 2008.
Slavboos being fucking dumb is nothing new to me, but jesus christ read the fucking page before you make an ass of yourself.
>>140550594
Why even bother if you'll be ignored at best or flooded with shitposting at worst?
>>140550598
I was under the impression that these video games' settings were not inside the US.
>>140550329
>responding to a shitposter that gets his information from Wikipedia
>with real-world knowledge and experience
>the shitposter is correct
kek welfare queens confirmed retarded.
>>140551076
>samefagging with outdated smug
>>140550802
I don't see why not, those who are intelligent and/or those who care would read it. And that would be a win for spreading knowledge (to the intended receivers and perhaps few less retard/misinformed person on the thread)
>DCS Apache never
>>140551213
I see you like my stories.
now accept gods plane into your life senpai.
>>140545404
oh shit, i figured it out
the release altitude is written on the cards in red and it was going to the side because of sideslip
i can hit tanks now kool
>>140551436
why should I when it can be killed by an F-14 lmao
or rekt by most anything else in DCS once it gets WVR
>>140551237
>hose who are intelligent and/or those who care
You're seriously overestimating this shithole.
>>140550598
Only knew they went to Red Flag Alaska. Ok then. Good work, gumshoe.
>>140551612
your trying too hard.
>>140551436
That story was pretty good
>>140551702
Perhaps I'm overestimating, but I do care and reads close to every post that isn't shitpost
>>140551890
god's plane can't handle the banter
What a fucking diva.
>>140551492
>and it was going to the side because of sideslip
you were dropping the bombs without checking the slip?
>>140552173
I was countering the slip at the last second instead of countering it all the way in becos the pipper is hard to see and i dont like zooming out to see the slip ball
Hi guys, I'm a hardware nerd and want to build a 1:1 simulation cockpit.
I'd like to make a pit that I can play now, but also in the future. BMS seems like a better sim now, but I know DCS is the only sim that will stay up to date. What's a good choice of aircraft to replicate considering this?
I think the F-16 and F-18 are the frontrunners, because they're fast moving/multirole. The F-16 is obviously the main focus of BMS, but it seems like the F-18 is more likely to become available on DCS,
Is the F-18 in BMS modelled well enough that I'd be able to transition from it to the planned DCS module? is the BMS F-18 the same model as the planned DCS module? if the 16 in BMS is 100%, how would you rate the BMS hornet?
>>140553081
The F-18 for BMS is basically a half-assed addon that just uses F-16 systems and avionics for everything.
If you plan to fly the F-18 in DCS, I wouldn't put any serious amount of time into it. You'd be learning incorrect things.
>>140553760
You see there good chap, I do believe he activated the Spitfire's secret foam smokescreen device Supermarine R&D had been developing.
Chip Chip Cheerio, good sir.
>>140553225
I cant find anything on the net, is F-16 for DCS likely within the next five years?
Would learning the F-16 (which is properly modelled) and applying the knowledge of fast moving multi role gained from that to the DCS F-18 be a better plan than trying to transfer from the incorrect BMS hornet to the DCS one?
>>140553760
Righto. It's a rather ingenious invention the boys had come up with, shame it never made it into service.
I hear that if the foam was deployed when the bugger was close enough, it could go up the intake and cook his goose.
>>140554815
No one's exactly certain as to the pace of development/actual release date of either the F-18 or F-16 for DCS, last I checked both were slated to come out in 2017 or later. Probably later.
ED's being pretty secretive about development of the two modules, but F-18 can probably be expected first as they're trying to roll out carrier-based modules, starting with $40+ revamps of the existing carriers ingame.
Learning F-16 in BMS before DCS is probably a good idea, DCS's model, if not worse, should pretty much just feature "qualify of life" improvements over Falcon 4.0's implementation, mostly relating to IFF and Falcon's lack thereof.
>>140553081
Hornet is guaranteed to be a module. It's is your safe bet if you want to stick with DCS, and considering how long it'll take you to build such a thing, it'll probably coincide with the module's release well enough.
The F-18 is BMS is not an F-18. It's a reskinned F-16.
F-16 is not coming to DCS for the forseeable future. If it hasn't been announced by now, don't expect it for at least another 6 years, and I'm not exaggerating with that estimate. The Hornet on the other hand is already confirmed and will probably come out sometime next year.
>>140557289
On the flipside, I wouldn't be surprised if it's much easier to find details and plans on an F-16 pit due to how many people have already built those for Falcon.
I can't recall anybody building a Hornet pit, likely because there's no BMS/DCS level Hornet to fly outside of that payware FSX Super Hornet.
>>140557289
I think the F-16C module is listed on the "unofficial" development roadmap for DCS, doesn't have any specific release date on it, though, so I wouldn't hold my breath on it, even if it is in development.
The Typhoon and Mirage F1 will be out before it is, mark my words.
>>140557669
The unofficial development roadmap is literally fan fiction. It means nothing at all.
>>140560410
Most of the shit for this year is pretty accurate, though, going by developer statements.
THAT'S what makes it fanfiction, honestly.
>all these posts about a DCS F16
Its not happening faggots, like EVER, get over it.
>>140560698
>implying I want to fly the Falcon anyway
I flew so much Falcon 4.0 as a teen (before BMS shit) that I never want to see it in another simulator again, it is a ridiculously popular bird though.
I just have a lifetime's worth of "burnout" regarding the airframe.
gazelle ops when?
>shoot ET at F-15 in Blue Flag
>Missile tracks
>Splash
>He ended up killing himself with his own 120
Su-27 confirmed atheist plane
>>140562190
>He ended up killing himself with his own 120
wat
It's really a shame that Blue Flag won't allow exports for Tacview during the testing phase.
I'd really love to see how the fucking idiot managed to do that.
>>140562505
I think what might have happened is his 120 hit my ET and the game counted it as a self kill.
>flying my hue hue with a couple of KA-50 and a mi-8
>having fun in the sun
>somebody mentions gods plane
>five minutes later
>KA-50 explodes in front of me
>AMRAAM hits the front of my fucking Huey
t-t-thanks gods plane y-y-you too
GAZELLE OPS NOW GET IN TEAMSPEAK WEW
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Flight-Rudder-Pedals-Playstation-4/dp/B015PII6YI
What do you think? It seems alright at first glance.
>>140564062
Is there a price announced?
>>140564128
Trying to find one.
>>140564062
>For PC & PS4
>for PS4
why? To play fucking Ace Combat with?
>>140564128
My local price is 899 HKD. So around 115 USD?
>>140564173
It appears to be geared towards War Thunder. The HOTAS that it states it should go with comes with a starter pack and currently the only game supported.
>>140529758
>>140530562
So that being said, X52 it is, now TrackIR? or Delan?
>>140564887
Delan
>>140562505
Pulling negative g's
>>140564173
I don't think you even have rudder control in AC
IT HAS BEGUN
>>140565674
You did in the old ones, I never played Assault Horizon though.
They were either L1/R1 or L2/R2, can't remember exactly, either above or below the throttle shoulder buttons.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>140564887
trackhat clip is another optiondelan shills pls go
>>140566871
I'd rather him make his own, but apparently 3 leds, resistors, some wire a frame and a soldering iron is outside the capability of most people.
>>140567067
It's the best choice but if someone is too lazy to figure out how to make it himself then delan or trackhat should be considered. TrackIR is for retards that only want to buy something for the name brand and not the quality.
>>140567067
>resistors
was it supposed to be 1 resistor per led or a single resistor for all of them? cant remember anymore
>>140567067
I mean, if you have no interest in any of that, and don't know how to do, it really isn't worth the extra effort.
>>140567067
Premade shit is always going to be more accurate (read: better).
>>140567493
Depends on how you wire the LEDs and your power supply
>>140565674
You do, but you rarely use it unless ground pounding.
>>140567626
Not when DelanClip and a PS3 eyetoy with the IR filter removed come out to be around half the price of TrackIR or whatever.
Also, I mean, it's a pretty bold assertion that some asshole who's never held a soldering iron before is going to churn out a better product than delanclip or TrackIR.
Stop thinking everyone else is retarded for not having your same specialized knowledge, autists. Fuck.
>>140567889
Damn straight. This is a good post.
>>140567724
>always
That's over generalization, anon.
Pretty sure I can make random crap better than some cheap labor in China
Premade is only better if:
-your craftsmanship is crap
-the makers actually take their time and make it good
-you have no clue what you're doing
-you ain't got time to do it yourself
>>140567889
Soldering is the easiest part, the frame and finding a way to attach it to the headphones is the tricky bit.
>>140567889
>IR filter removed
I want to strangle whoever started spreading that misinfo. Why would you ruin a perfectly good webcam when the only mod it needs is a fucking piece of floppy disk taped on front of the lens.
>>140568060
>the frame
don't fucking get me started on that shit.
Delanclip's solution seems to be to hold everything onto the headphones with zipties. It's cheap and it works, I guess. Wonder how expensive an improved version with a mount like trackIR's overpriced clip has would run?
I guess zip ties work in the meantime, they're just fucking ugly and probably going to get caught up in peoples' hair, because it fucking does mine.
Wear a hat, faggots.
>>140568146
Apparently some find the floppy disk/ blue&red 3D glasses film method not working
>>140568010
No it fucking isn't when both delan's shit and trackhat are mass produced, have the same shape and size as the trackclippro or whatever it's called, and have more or less precise opentrack clip shape settings.
>>140568285
I just put adhesive velcro on my headphones and the DelanClip. Stays in place fairly well, 0% bothersome, and its easy to remove when I just want to use my headphones.
>>140568462
may be worth looking into, my immediate fear is that using velcro could cause some amount of "wobble" when moving the head, but if you're saying it's working fine I assume you either found a workaround or it was never an issue for you.
>Declanclip
Even the chink knockoffs on Ebay are about half the price, for the same quality. Fucking Delan shills.
>>140568597
>trusting chinks
you're playing with fire, anon.
Never really looked into the ones on ebay, I haven't ever really used the site because of fears of that PayPal bullshit getting hacked into every so often.
>>140568582
It was never an issue. I have the soft part on my headphones and the "hard" prickly part on the DelanClip. I just had to bend the clip a little so that when I moved suddenly, the clip wouldn't collide with my headphones. Took about 15 minutes for the whole process (cutting lengths of adhesive, etc.) and never had to worry about it again. There is some wobble if I really shake my head like I'm having a seizure but under normal conditions it's perfectly fine.
>>140568597
I can't think of a time where I ever wanted to buy a chink knockoff of anything. Maybe fireworks.
I can see that close to nobody here wants to make their own clip or whatever it's called.
Here's a picture that could help you on your DIY adventure!
>>140568939
>chink fireworks
Ohhh, no you don't want any of that
>>140568597
Next thing you know is that it's shorted or the led(s) aren't working and you just wasted your money for some useless but salvageable junk
>>140569210
I mean I bought some bottle rockets and they had chink moonrunes on them, and I didn't die. Anecdotal, but still...
>>140569210
I'd rather pay the price for a TrackIR, then like $70 for a fucking Delanclip.
Delan employees obviously visit this thread due to never mentioning trackhat which is the same if not better quality for the same price roughly
I've been seeing it mentioned more instead of people just mentioning to DIY it too
>>140569586
Anon, the bundle of Delanclip + the eyetoy still comes out to be half the price of TrackIR itself, after shipping.
TrackClipPro makes TrackIR come out to $185 in total, before shipping. I'd really rather pay a third (less than a third, actually) of that for basically the same thing.
>>140569691
Why the fuck does the TrackHat even exist?
Wouldn't everyone just buy the TrackHat Clip? Not only is it less expensive, it doesn't require you to strap a fucking battery pack to the back of your skull. Regardless of how safe it really is, that shit would constantly give me cause for concern.
I really can't for the life of me figure out why it exists, other than to milk money from stupid people. Couldn't you just build a mockup of trackIR's silly little reflective strips to be mounted on hats for the same effect via opentrack?
>>140569586
How you spend your money is up to you
Re-soldering relatively easy, it's the whole planning that comes before that scare people off. Although if parts sellers list parts spec and combined with the P,I,V portion of pic in>>140568994.
Plug numbers in and you're golden
>>140570319
What would be a suitable reflector?
>>140570481
>P, I, V portion
I meant R,I,V portion
>>140570481
Apparently 3M sells a reflective tape that works just fine for reflecting IR.
tfw bought a cougar and now cant play the gazelle cause no rudder pedals
>>140571760
>cougar
WHERE?! HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET ONE?
>>140571846
bought a used one off ebay for 200 pounds
>>140571760
RIP
>>140568994
But I did.
>>140573469
>close to nobody
so that makes 3 guys out of 56 posters here
Anyone got a good guide for BVR combat, or could point me toward the relevant files/location in the autism folder?
I found this and have been using it, but it's a bit over my head: http://www.ipcsit.com/vol16/24-ICICM2011M054.pdf
Would be nice to find something more geared towards laymen.
I'm decent enough at BFM from playing WW2 flight sims for years, really haven't had too many difficulties there after adding heat-seekers and flares to the mix, BVR is proving more problematic as I'm never certain when to start notching to fuck with an enemy radar, I'm beginning to think I should just do so as soon as I notice I'm being painted by a fighter to try to drop from the fuck's radar as soon as I can.
>>140575431
autism folder?
>>140565870
Does it even work since the Hellfire is laser guided and the Gazelle only has a laser rangefinder?
>>140575431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzvC_PmOq_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bEYyxEtd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zVvbHgfY8
>>140575431
There is a document in the Falcon BMS manual titled "When to Chuck your Spears" or something. That will provide a good introduction to BVR.
>>140575981
It's in the pastebin for planefags in the OP.
>>140576210
>>140576504
Neato, thanks.
>>140579363
That's some powerful dark.
>>140579363
>>140580186
cant see shit, captain
>>140579363
>>140580186
turn on your fucking nvg
>>140580628
>using nvg`s
Are you one of the DCS players ?
>>140581338
What does that have to do with anything?
>>140543903
>muh ebil ruski meme again
Why am I not surprised
>>140547273
God's plane indeed
is BMS better for learning general combat sim stuff than DCS?
i.e. will the tutorials/manuals give me a bunch of useful information that i cant get out of DCS manuals?
>>140581864
tutorials are horrible
most information is handed down via books from the autism folder, youtube videos and multiplayer coop
>>140581864
DCS tutorials hold your hand while BMS tutorials give you a scenario and you fly it depending on what it is .
If you want any help with BMS i`d suggest asking the questions in the thread or finding videos on your own
>>140581440
I extremely rarely use NVG`s as I see no point in them
>>140582026
What do you think of LATRIN now that TFR and FLIR is working properly?
>>140582584
Dont know cause ive never tried
>>140576210
I hate that all videos like this always use arhs, and never cover sarhs, and the missile ballet is completely different with a sarh.
>>140581960
>autism folder
>see NATO RESTRICTED on the pdfs
dis legal?
>>140584704
is cranking necessary for ARHs aswell as SARHs? what else is different
>>140585783
haha, FBI van has been sent to your house :^).
>>140585783
not for the dumbass pilot, no
>>140585860
well you can't really turn and start going away from your target since the missile has to keep getting guided, this complicates things.
>>140585783
restricted is the lowest level of security classification something can have. It's still against the rules to put it up for public access, and whoever did it was wrong, but they're not edward snowden tier.
>>140586720
Even still if it was edward snowden tier, they wouldn't come for a random joe that downloads it but rather for the guy that originally leaked it, i mean once it's on the internet it's all over.
A real goldmine would be the Advance Employment Manual.
Though I doubt we're ever going to see it (for us non fighter piltos).
Saturday is Truk Day
post truks
>>140589207
Stale memes, famzilla
Have a falcon day !
BMS ops WHEN
Squad kickstarter backers check email for keys to the DLC.
>>140594646
upload to torrent and give me link plz
So is Blue Flag not happening? The server isn't up.
bemp
>>140567147
Hey, some of us bought our TIRs before delan and trackhat were aroundand when they were more reasonably priced too.
>>140531645
>>140531778
>multiplayer babies
Some of us just want to fly for fun dudes. I'm looking forward to flying a nimble helicopter and getting to grips with it, I wasn't even considering it for combat. There's also the patriotism aspect and our British ones weren't even armed.
>>140597898
Is this what FSX players tell themselves?
FSX BABIES LEAVE
Dogfight Men can stay.
>>140597898
>British ones weren't armed
Not in NI they weren't no. They did use SNEB rockets though.
So Rise of Flight is having a big sale. What aircraft are worth getting?
>>140597405
I'm not actually sure what pictures I'm posting now. I'm just posting them sequentially from my /k/ folder if I can make out from the thumbnai that they have some sort of plane or heli in them.
>>140598580
None because my game doesn't work, I'm skint as fuck and it's dead :^)
>>140598184
You can be my wingman anytime
>>140598184
>one plane has more systems to learn than all planes from dcs together
>babbies
Lmao get a load of this pleb.
>>140606594
>i can read and tick check boxes
lmao
>>140606685
>half of his plane is classified or not working
ayyyy
>>140606814
>being an advanced busdriver
>>140608912
What are the Mi-8 and the Huey, Trebek?
I only know two things about helicopters, and one of them is that your mother's a whore.
>>140608912
I don't know man, I would rather fly a 747 than a trainer.
A flight sim with x-plane tier physics and control, but elite-like free roam gameplay.
>>140608912
>>140609812
This, tbqh famalam
>>140569691
>same price
Trackhat costs less but their shipping skullfucks you. The material doesn't seem to be as good either.
>>140585783
To put it simply, NATO RESTRICTED doesn't mean jackshit.
>>140598580
SE5
>>140531778
t. harmless
>>140611104
What would you even do while "free roaming" in the real world with civilian planes? It'd just be the same old sight seeing that is already the only thing you can do in FSX.
Give me a combat flight sim where you play as a bunch of mercenaries and you buy your own planes/missiles/wingmen in a dynamic campaign instead. With 3rd gen planes and early 4th gen as the end game. That'd be cash as fuck.
So after some testing last night, it seems Polychop actually modelled the laser and camera on the Gazelle correctly and it cannot be used to launch anything other than the HOT missiles.
It's a little unfortunate since I wanted to try and launch mavericks and hellfires. But on the bright side after looking through the Gazelle's lua files etc it at least seems like Polychop knows what they're doing.
>>140613595
Correction: other weapons will launch, but they won't track and to even launch them at all the computer needs to grant launch authorization, which is based on the HOT missile parameters.
I suppose technically you could use something like dumb bombs, rockets, or gunpods in this way but it would be quite awkward.
>>140613352
have you never played elite?
>>140613595
Can you mount gatlings from huey?
>>140614468
Probably, but I haven't tried.
Same problem as all other weapons with launch authorization.
>>140614437
Yes I have. I was a Beta backer. Elite is not a flattering comparison or benchmark.
>>140614707
there's more than one
bms ops when?
>>140614894
Ive played Frontier Elite II and my point still stands. Like modern Elite I think it's interesting for a bunch of technical reasons, but it's not a fun or especially compelling game.
>>140614468
>Those engines
>Stealth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Su2cIP-onU
So, correct me if I'm wrong. To get into flight simulators you need:
a decent joystick
a pretty powerful rig
some sort of head tracking system
pedals (optional?)
flight manuals
autism/patience
two monitors/a photocopier (to be able to read the manuals without tabbing out of the game)
>>140620435
meant a printer of course, not a photocopier. Got lost in translation there
>>140616603
>trade
>do missions
>upgrade vehicles
what's not to like? it'd add some purpose and progression to an otherwise dry "pretend your own fun" experience
>>140620435
I play without a head tracker. I'm gonna buy one this summer.
>>140620435
>a pretty powerful rig
Depends on what you want to play. IL-2 1946 doesnt need a powerful rig and BMS either, I belive.
>some sort of head tracking system
A few poorfags use WASD to handle the camera, though it isnt exactly recommended. In the worst case scenario, you can always use the cellphone as headtracker.
>two monitors/a photocopier
optional
>>140621191
>A few poorfags use WASD to handle the camera,
I use my mouse to look around. It works pretty damn well.
>>140620435
>autism/patience
More like not having ADD/ADHD.
>a pretty powerful rig
Lolno.
>a decent joystick
Yes.
>some sort of head tracking system
Strongly recommended.
>pedals (optional?)
Recommended for prop planes, ground attack planes and helicopters. If you want to fly babby cliffs planes you don't need them.
>two monitors/a photocopier
Just use your smartphone.
>>140621415
A friend tried to do that but he failed miserably because moving 2 things at separate rates can be confusing.
>>140620435
You don't really need pedals. A lot of sticks have twist functions for yaw as well.
>>140621694
I have zero problem with it since I've been doing it from the beginning I guess
which DCS settings should I lower first if I get drops to FPS when shooting the huey's miniguns?
>>140620435
I'm in the process of getting into them myself, and of all those things I only have patience and arguably a decent HOTAS (x52 pro). My toaster is sporting an X4 955 and a GTX 650 1GB.
Granted, I've not done anything but getting the hang of the 25T and a little bit of flying in the 15C yet, but you can definitely start getting into them without most of that, enough to figure out whether they're actually for you.
>>140620435
Meh, you'll want a decent joystick but even a cheap one will work as long as it has a throttle and (if you are not using pedals) a twist grip. Head tracking is the big thing you'll want to invest in after your stick, it's not necessary but it does make a HUGE difference if you have one. For you computer, if you are running a 64 bit version of windows and have a mid range dx11 capable gpu you'll be fine, try and have at least 8GB of RAM for DCS though, optimally 16GB. All the flight manuals are easily available either in the game files or from the game's website, there are even condensed guides like chuck's guides. Patience and dedication are a given although a lot of stuff is actually easier than you think, you just need to ignore how intimidating it seems.
>>140621415
>poorfags
PS3eye is the best headtracking camera and it costs like 5 usd or so. Being poor is not an excuse.
>>140622260
check performance monitor for any programs or services taking up RAM or CPU
>>140622260
anything to do with particles, post processing or lighting
So basically you guys talk only about planes?
>>140627886
You need to be 18 to post here
>>140606594
>an airliner has more systems than a military jet
lmao what
>>140629231
>blue board
no you don't
>>140629215
Yea most of the time.
racing is kept to /ovg/ and sub fags just play dcs.
>>140629601
well heading I'm heading back to /o/
>>140630049
If you want to talk about something start talking about it yourself you crybaby.
>>140629215
I play racing sims too but it rarely ever gets brought up and there's really not much to talk about anyway when it comes to racing sims.
>>140630049
good.
/ovg/ is full of weeb bus riders. The last thing I would want is seeing you fags shit up the thread.we allow /ovg/ on /o/ for a reasonwe need a bus rider containment thread
>>140629337
REMEMBER TO LOOK OUT THE WINDOW CADET
I've seen a few videos where people flying the F-15c, the plen will tell them shit like "Shoot, shoot" when they have a good lock. Is this a mod or something?
>>140631095
Maybe an ancient video or from another game? That sounds familiar but I can't recall seeing that in DCS any time in the past 5 or so years, and LOMAC was so long ago I barely remember it.
>>140631095
Easy mode, its server side
>>140631386
I'm pretty sure my game doesn't have any training wheel stuff enabled, and it still gives me voice prompts only in the F-15. The lights around the frame of the canopy also start flashing and stuff. I think it's when you're using a radar missile and you're withing the no-escape range. Is it not supposed to?
Any good single missions for nevada map?
>>140629519
Too bad I got nothing to do right now so I went ahead and checked the "Rules" section of 4chen.
http://www.4chan.org/rules
And read number 2 on the site or if you're too lazy read the screen shot attached
As per the rules, if you're under 18 you are to immediately cease and not continue to access the site.
Next time you should read the rules b4 you reply to things related to rules.
And no, setting up PS3eye is NOT hard. At least that's wut the guides on the internet say.
I at the moment use laptop cam+a printed piece of paper.
>>140627451
>it costs like 5 usd or so
>tfw its 50 bucks here
>>140633040
eBay has them for like $10?
>>140633207
I dont live in freedomland. After shipping and taxes it would cost the same.
>>140633370
I have a PS3eye layin around, where do you live I might be able to sell you one (I'm in France)
i want DCS to get an FPS and armor element so i can drop bombs on real players tbqh
>>140634871
I appreciate it, but I live in Argentina. What worries me the most is the LEDs needed to make the clip. The only IR lights I can find are the ones for remote controls.
>>140636025
You're a lost cause.
>>140636249
I've heard that, a lot. Not like I can disagree with that.
>>140636542
You should just abandon that shithole mate, all your country is good for is false claims on other people's islands ;)
>>140634925
But there is playable armor already. You can even play as they guy with a manpad.
>>140636695
Eventually, though I wouldnt know how to live in another country. Min wage isnt a very attractive option.
>>140636025
Wouldn't those work too? As long as it emittes a strong enough (IR)light?
>>140640214
That's why he's a lost cause.
>>140638016
I suppose immigration would be a pain too, no?
>>140640379
Oh, that's what you were saying. Kek
Why are there no Hawks on RED in blue flag?
It's used by so many nations I have a hard time believing they'd all be on side with NATO
>>140640214
>>140640379
I guess I'll grab some of those, cut the tip and see if it works.
>>140641621
I will be waiting to see how it works out for you.
I remember somewhere on the Internet somebody posted the dimensions of the trackIR clip pro, you could based it off of that too
I can help you or other anons with electronic calculations if anyone need some help with it.it's not like many anons here wants to or is willing to make their own clip. kek
>>140644101
Probably more anons would be willing to make them if we had an infopic to make trackIR clips with an USB cable as power supply. As far as I've seen, the examples differ in resistors (some use 3 and some use a single one) and they use batteries, which are annoying due weight and placement.
>>140645093
>the examples differ in resistors (some use 3 and some use a single one)
That matters for jackshit if you're tech savvy. For the record I bought one instead of making one because paying > gathering the necessary material (mostly for the support, IR leds and resistors are really easy to come by and also cheap) and risking of having something that isn't accurate.
>>140645413
>if you're tech savvy
if you were a tech savvy you wouldnt be looking at a guide in the first place, except to check the placement of the LEDs
>>140645845
The guides usually cover both.
>>140645093
Resistor value is dependent on LED choice, but here's a basic thing I've had sitting in a folder.
>>140646379
this is perfect
>>140646379
Resistor value is determined by input voltage, current require/restriction of LED.
Feel free to throw numbers at me, I will do my best to solve them
MODS = GODS
>>140646379
How the hell do you fry motherboard with LEDs or USB things in general?
>>140647856
have insufficient resistance and you'll create a short?
>>140636025
I know of someone who made a great headtracker with IR LEDs from old remotes. All you have to do is sand/dremel them so they look cloudy and it will disperse the light.
GODSplane
>that guys ears must be ringing
>>140647540
http://uk.farnell.com/vishay-semiconductor/tsus5200/ir-emitter-950nm-t-1-3-4-through/dp/1311762
Looks like its that LED, though Im not sure. Should I try with a 10 Ohm resistor and check if its enough?
>>140650365
Im going through that, actually. I was wondering what to use to prevent the point from becoming cloudy/opaque, but if you say it isnt an issue then I wont worry too much.
BMS ops WHEN
>>140652809
BMS ops HOW?
>>140653294
BMS ops FUCK
>>140651886
Are you using USB as power supply?
>>140654492
Yes. Hopefully nothing will blow up.
>>140652809
>>140653294
>>140653361
ᵇᵐˢ ᵒᵖˢ ᶰᵒ
>>140655810
>>140656564
>>140656369
>>140656076
>>140655810
Why don't they draw the picture of the plane instead?
When
PAK-FA looks so fucking cool.
>>140658803
Yeah, no kidding. It's a shame it's shit.
>>140658803
>Stealth
>Engines exposed as shit
???
F-16 IN DCS WHEN
>Doing some custom mission
>Briefing states I'm armed with 4 Aim-120s, and 2 Aim-9s
>Game only gives me two Aim-9m
???
>>140629215
Because this is planes general duh
Also this reminds me, is there any racing sim with normie cars? I just got into racing sims and got Assetto Corsa. It's fun in all but I wanna see how fast I go in a shitty riceracer without getting a ticket.
Also is it possible to turn off ABS in cars or am I asking for too much? ABS just feels weird
>>140660702MARKOV!
>>140660643
In Assetto Corsa I think it's Ctrl A.
>>140659037
Never said it was good, just cool looking.
I am curious to know what makes it bad. Legit not trolling, just curious. Only thing I've heard that it's radar signature is not stealthy at all, and that it has shitty engines or something.
Anybody that knows want to comment?
>>140660702*Apache rolls around like it got lost on it's way to Dark Souls*
>>140661506
Anything that Russians make is shit and anyone who doesn't agree is a delusional slavboo.
>>140661506
I heard from somewhere that the stealth is only front aspect, so they weren't designing for rear stealthiness
>engine gets damaged after 1 or 2 minutes of MW50 in the K4
How do I properly use the MW50 in IL-2 1946?
>>140661506
The nozzle's shape does fuckall for mitigating the IR emissions, but it seems that it wasn't their scope. As for the engines, they seem to love to catch fire.
Who's the cunt flying the Gazelle with R27's attached lmao
>>140663726
xaxaxaxaxa real russian planes never retreat so rear stealth is not important tovarish haha
>>140654764
Sorry about the slow reply, something came up. It would normally take like ~5 minutes.
If the LEDs are very similar if not the same as the ones you linked, 10ohms will be enough(actually there's some more leeway, better safe than...) if you link the LEDs into a single large circuit(series) like in>>140646379.
Personally, I would make the 3 LEDs in their own circuits(parallel).
Because it would be easier to diagnose when a LED dies.
in series (all connected together), when one fail all fail. Whereas, when in parallel(each LED has their own 2 wires to the power) each fail by themselves.
However, parallel circuit would need more soldering and a different resistor value
>>140666336
Now I think about it,you could possibly skip out from soldering by winding the wires together very very tight than secure it by putting some hot glue/glue-gun glue on it
Never tried it myself, try at your own risk
>>140667735
What about that conductive black sticky shit I've seen some people use?
>>140663726
Can you even call it a 5th gen fighter if it's only stealthy from the front?
I know lockheed considers a 5th gen fighter stealthy from all aspects.
>>140666336
>>140667735
Now that you mention, never thought about that. How often do they die? As for the wires, I dont have a glue gun so I'll go for the soldering magicks solution. Will do this on monday though, stores are closed.
>>140667980
I think you lose some voltage with that.
>>140668179
>turbine blades clearly visible
>stealthy from the front
>>140668179
lockheed only considers their own planes 5th gen
>>140667980
Sorry, no clue
>>140669206
LEDs are suppose to last a long long time As long as you don't blow it up in the start and if the connection and current is stable, properly done and not shorted.
Although I'm very certain of my calculation, I would still try it out with something like a smartphone charger (the 5V variant) to be safe (in case, I goofed or you accidentally shorted a soldering)
What is this "soldering magicks solution"?
>>140668179
It's still stealthy (from the front) comrade!
Friendly reminder that Lockheed's definition of a 5th gen fighter included supercruise until the F-35 came along.
>>140670169
Kek
Why don't they make a plane that's MORE FLAT for maximum radar invisibility?
>>140671523
because planes still need to fly and fight
>>140671523
I wonder what the RCS of a fighter planes sized paper plane would be?
>>140671720
Probably small when perfectly head on, but humongous from the side, especially from below where radar will bounce right back at you from hitting the side and then the underside of the wing.
>>140671653
I like how the supposedly 6th gen fighters look more and more like the F-19.
>>140670113
>What is this "soldering magicks solution"?
Just soldering iron, which seems like some sort of wizardry for some people.
>>140669965
Am I supposed to be impressed?
>>140672986
No.
>>140671653
What if we make it even flatter?
>>140669965
Can't you see the F-22 and F-35's turbines from the same perspective?
Hol up
we /The Chaps/
>>140672986
Yeah
At how bad slavs are at designing airplanes
>>140673196
Okay, apparently I can't seem a find a good image of the F-22 from the front, without covers on its intakes.
Anyways, how does the F-35 hide its turbines like this?
>>140674006
>>140674351
Wow great flying.
>>140673948
don't know for sure but from that pic I'd say it's something like this
>>140675047
10/10 illustration anon
>>140673948
>>140675047
For I moment I thought that was yet another fucking laughing X-32.
>>140675427
>>140675484
MAKE IT STOP
>>140675290
The F-22 is without a doubt the most attractive aircraft ever built. Those F-22 pilots are truly living the dream.
>>140675047
F-35 only has one engine you silly goose.
>>140676362
The F-35 holds 7x as many memes
>>140674006
>not a 3 point landing
git gud
>install DCS
"this is pretty cool. I wish there were more planes though"
>look online
>mfw $59 per plane
Any resources for building my own headtracker? Like what sort of tools and materials will I need?
>>140678980
Between the fact that it takes literally days of practice to become even semi-competent in an aircraft, and the sheer amount of man-hours it takes to create a module, it's an entirely fair price. Plus, they go on sale fairly regularly.
>>140676362
Supposedly, that interoperability that they're bragging there is one of the big reason why the costs got so fking out of hand.
>>140676309
With only 187 made, my chances of getting to one of them is going to very very slim
>>140678980
If you're not looking for beta modules/planes, kinguin or g2a gives you a good deal. Although I don't know how they can sell it for that cheap
>>140679131
its in the planefag pastebin, also this >>140646379
>>140679326
thnx m8
I was thinking of buying a Delan or dropping money on a TrackIR, but considering I'm going to attend school for Engineering soon, I figured I might as well make the effort.
>>140679131
-IR LEDs
-soldering iron OR something to stick wires together
-wires to connect LEDs and resistor(s)
-power supply w/ wire OR USB wire
-resistor(s)
-something to mount the LEDs (piece of plastic, disposable chopsticks glued together)
-something to mount everything to your headset/headband (Velcro, zip ties)
-[optional] fuses
And if you know the ratings, you could dump numbers here for me to check,or >>140568994 or use freetrack's builder.
>>140675876
>gods plane
thanks for the shout out
t.gods plane pope
>>140678980
If you're just interested in the level of simulation of the free Su-25 then the planes that are only simulated to that extent are much cheaper.
>>140675876
Why is breezy so based ?
>you will fly the F-14 with /simg/ as your wingmen and RIO's in your life time
Feels good bros
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/special_offers/dcs_gazelle_plus_dcs_nevada_bundle/
If you're interested in the Gazelle this looks like a great opportunity get sand for a reasonable price desu.
>>140671653
>6 gen
>pilot inside
Lol.
>>140682590
>15 DOLLARS PER MISSILE
>4 TOTAL MISSILES
>4KM RANGE
>TFW KA-50 CAN KILL MORE TANKS ON ONE PYLON THAN AN ENTIRE GAZELLE
>>140682590
>gazelle
>sand
>>140682636
I thought that has something to do with man-in-the-loop requirement in confrontations/wars/battles to avoid having nobody to blame/ having somebody responsible for deploying weapons. Maybe???
i wanna play a DCS level submarine with multicrew
i want persistent multiplayer battles that are comfy
not this autistic uncomfy shit with no gameplay
>>140682843
t.harmless
>>140682939
But in modern warfare you can openly bomb civilians and then blame it on opposing side. No one gives a fuck.
>>140682965DANGEROUS WATERS OPS
>you will fly the Mi-24 over SAND in pretend Afghanistan missions with Su-25's and MiG-21's over head in DCS in your lifetime.
>>140678980
the only good modules - the KA50, A10, MIG21, are all nice and cheap now
>>140682843
>15 dollars per missile
i like this meme.
>>140683175
You actually can't, because those who didn't get kill could possibly id the aircraft the drop the bomb and the opposing site would probably speak up too
And that's part of the problem, except this time they would blame on the system "erroneously identified the target", not the people so there's nothing to prosecute
>>140683227
>da buoys
How do you guys feel about the mi-8 and its DCS module? Do many of you have it and how much do you like it?
>>140684148
underutilized and underrated desu
belsimtek makes the best quality modules by far
>>140684148
All of Belsimtek's modules are great, just don't expect the Mi-8 to have any great destructive capability. It may carry gunpods and rockets but it's a transport first, gunship second.
>>140684148
i wish they had a hind one.
>>140673196
No, f22 has S-shaped intakes. T50 intake tunnels are curved too, but you still see a lower part of the turbine. They will be covered with the radar blockers or something like in the upgraded f18.
>Later, free upgrades to this module will feature Gazelle versions armed with a GIAT machine gun, rocket pods, Mistral anti-aircraft missile, and sniper team in rear compartment.
>Mistral anti-aircraft missile
>sniper team
>>140682590
>65 AMERICAN CASHITOS
>>140686080
You could always buy them separately for 100 dollarydoos if you'd prefer.
Is Falcon BMS multiplayer like a co-op MMO or something?
>>140686391
BMS ops WHEN?
>>140686391
No.
There's a dynamic war going on and you fly automatically generated sorties within that war.
>>140686494
how long does a server stay as the same 'war'?
>>140686559
However long the host keeps it up.
The MMO thing you might be thinking of is Falcon Online but that's not how the majority of BMS multiplayer is and I don't know if it works with the latest BMS patch.
>>140686719
never heard of it
im just trying to find something like DCS that has gameplay instead of arma/second life autistic sandbox wank
>>140686494
You can manualy sortie the missions
>>140686559
Campaign runs until certain objectives for victory have been met
>>140686826
Falcon bms is all about content
>>140686826
BMS is just DCS:F-16 but with a dynamic campaign.
>>140686826
BMS is tougher to learn, but will give you something to do everytime you play, especially if you get the Balkans and the Israel campaigns (both of which are free and are really good)
>>140686559
You can fly a mission and then save the campaign progress afterwards and then just load when you want to play the next.
Yes it actually works in multiplayer.
>>140686391
Falcon Online is the closest thing. I'll post here if FO ever gets it's PvP up.
>>140689425
Is it anything like WW2OL/Battleground Europe?
>>140689638
Yes(?). You fly in a persistent world where people will plan flights and there are usually Human AWACS to point you if you need alternative missions.
It's always fun watching a line of contacts which are usually entire squadrons fly over the DMZ.
The downside is that there is a time limit and the campaign is pulled down and one side declared winner.
How do you guys practice DCS?
i havent gone online yet because im afraid ill get bullycided by veterans in gods plane
ive got halfway through the robert shaw book, read lots of tips on ED and leddit here and there and practiced lots of the systems but I can't seem to retain every little thing
When you guys dogfight do you instinctively know what the optimal pursuit curve is and all the BFM stuff?
How much can you fuck up i.e. is there any leeway against pubbies online
or are they all nerds who know the correct way of doing everything
>>140691075
You`re not gonna git gud if you don`t fly lad .
>>140691075
>How do you guys practice DCS?
Dude just get on to some pubbie server and play, nobody cares how bad you are.
>ive got halfway through the robert shaw book, read lots of tips on ED and leddit here and there and practiced lots of the systems
great, that means you did more than half of the retards on random public servers
>retain every little thing
how little are we talking? don't remember to fire mavericks in force correlate or don't remember how to lower your gear?
>When you guys dogfight do you instinctively know what the optimal pursuit curve is and all the BFM stuff?
LOL
>How much can you fuck up i.e. is there any leeway against pubbies online
Alot. Like seriously, unless you are too retarded to not crash into other people while taxiing, nobody will care.
>>140445382
why is arma 3 not allowed?
>>140691075
Christ you're overthinking things. Experience first, book later.
>When you guys dogfight do you instinctively know what the optimal pursuit curve is and all the BFM stuff?
Cockpit cues. Guesstimation of energy and angular advantage. A general idea what your aircraft and enemies aircraft EM graph should look like and where your advantages lie.
If you absolutely MUST read something, start with Air to Air tactical reference. It's shorter and much more digestible.
>>140691075
Check dragon's training maps. There were also some servers hosting them. Much better than practicing alone.
>>140691075
BFM is mostly just everyone shit-flinging missiles at each other, it's only in the WW2 & Korean War birds that all that crap is vital.
If you want three important skills to take into multiplayer:
- how to communicate clearly
- how to maintain situational awareness
- how to dodge an ARH missile
Any news on the Thrustmaster event? Is it over or when is it?
>>140698781
Wait what event? Unless you mean the PS4 Rudder Pedals.
>>140698781
afaik it hasn't happened yet, but they've announced some new super-ballcrunchers
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Flight-Rudder-Pedals-Playstation-4/dp/B015PII6YI
>>140698781
It's on Wednesday.
>>140699010
>new super-ballcrunchers
what the fuck were they thinking?!
the rail system looks nice though, smooth application of rudder is always important to have
life decisions
>>140700559
this should be rudder vs headtracking
>>140676362
>"One" plane designed to fit into all 3 military branches
>Still requires 3 variants for them, one for each
What's the fucking point, may as well make 3 dedicated planes for the same cost.
BMS ops WHEN
>>140701304
ded thread ded memes
>>140708240
Boys = kids = malciki in russian
>>140708889
Is stealthy (From the front) comrade!
>>140708995
That's not the point.
>build the 5th gen fighter
>arm it with old unguided bombs
>>140708889
Why can't Russia into PGM?
>>140682590
>Later yesterday
>We all in TS playan OPs
>Dude comes in
>"Are you guys flying the Gazelle or what?"
>our faces when
>>140710031
t. gregwho is literally a nigger
>>140709571
But they do. They even developed a special AGM that can lock onto satellite phone transmitters to kill a single sneaky chechen terrorist leader during the war.
>>140709236
Only hold old bombs?
Please show proofs.
>>140708889
I find it funny how ever their new plen looks old and dirty as fuck.
>>140710983
You haven't seen dirty planes.
>>140711393
Jesus Christ. I don't think I've ever seen a photo of a western plane that dirty before. That thing looks like it took off from a boneyard.
>>140711393
Looks worse than the F-18s that the USMC uses from fucking 1982.
>>140711635
bms flag when
>>140711928
>mfw an officer recruiter tried to tell me the Muhreens have the best in aviation of all the branches
>>140613352
You mean - something like this?
>>140713239
Wot is dat?
>>140713491
a couple of weeks ago I got bored of pissing and moaning about not having a planes&mercs game, so I took my programming skillz (shitty as they are) and went to work ...
tl;dr: Mercenary Air Squadron on Commodore 64 ... but actually on modern PC ...
I did some more experimentation with impostors today after reading that paper on visibility that Falcon bases Smart Scaling off of, and after talking to some people while playing on the Blue Flag server who are really annoyed at seeing tiny objects from far away.
Basically, I copied the BMS Smart Scaling formula to see how well it would work in DCS. It works, but it's not pretty, and it has a lot of shortcomings because of the way impostors are written.
The good:
It works exactly like BMS's Smart Scaling. This means that they prioritize identifying and spotting of targets within visual range (~5 miles and less), and the benefit of it becomes less and less with distance. I was already a fan of how BMS did this, but after reading the paper I'm now even more convinced this is the right approach.
Smart Scaling is very specifically designed to make sure that within visual range, you have the same level of information on your target as you would in real life. This includes both being able to identify what it is, and what direction it's flying in without having to zoom in to ludicrous levels like in DCS.
The bad:
Impostors aren't designed to work with this kind of system. This works best when you scale the models themselves.
Because impostors are rendered at only certain angles, and because this requires very large impostors, it can end up looking like Wing Commander with airplanes "popping" between angles. In a dogfight you won't really notice or care, but it's distracting when you're just looking at your wingmen.
Impostors and variable field of view don't go well together. This whole system starts to get really weird once you start zooming the camera in and out, because impostor pixel size is constant no matter what your zoom. Planes will change size dramatically in a way that looks very wrong.
TL;DR: Using BMS's Smart Scaling formula on DCS impostors is an interesting proof of concept, but looks all kinds of strange because impostors are pixel and sprite based.
gunna blueflag in the 29 in the memespeak if anyone is interested
>>140719218
I remember when I told you that 2D sprite impostors are a terrible concept and nothing more than a shitty band aid
You told me that they're fine
get fucked
>tfw no flight sim will ever improve on FSX clouds
>>140719473
When it comes to long range visibility, impostors are a good approach, and very controllable to get the desired initial spotting ranges you want. ED doesn't attempt to do anything like that, but if they cared, they could.
Both methods have tradeoffs, with the biggest downside of the BMS geometry scaling solution being that zooming in on planes causes the scaling to look even weirder.
However the more I've thought about it, the more I side with the Falcon BMS implementation of this. The real problem for WWII and Korea players in DCS is that WVR they lose sight of things they really shouldn't be. Even in modern jets after the merge, it shouldn't still feel like BVR when the other guy is only 2 miles away from you.
I was already a Falcon BMS fanboy before I went down this rabbit hole, but now I'm an even bigger one. I still wouldn't be opposed to turning down the overall magnification slightly, but the concept is very sound and the paper was very convincing.
A combination of the two systems would perhaps be best, as they should be able to cover each other's disadvantages. I would also consider a FOV modifier for geometry model scaling so that when zooming in on an F-16, it wouldn't maintain the apparent size of a B-52. On my own projects, this (FOV modifier along with combining an impostor like system and scaling) is something I've experimented with and I believe it's a solid foundation to make something realistic.
Either way, I don't remember what your arguments were, but I agree that ED wrote themselves into a corner with this one. Impostors (while very novel and interesting) wasn't the best approach. Unfortunately, the failure and inattention of this gives ED and the its cock sucking community a great excuse to never bother to try again.
>>140721626
You don't actually need to scale geometry though, that's almost as retarded as using 2D sprites
>>140722423
What would you do?
>>140722821
Different perspective matrix for models that should be smart-scaled
Assuming that there's a plaintext shader for plane models it could maybe even be modded in, though it'll probably fuck with post fx
>>140723104
I've been lookin for one for a while, but haven't found one. I dont think planes or objects use their own exclusive shader.
How does DCS handle LOD? I assume scaling geometry / perspective requires higher quality distant plane models, would probably cause the engine to shit itself yet again
>>140723104
you know a matrix contains scaling, position and rotation right? how is that different or useful from scaling it?
How does the impostor shader work? Is it passed the actual plane mesh, or is it just a quad with a texture on it?
>>140714286
Got a GitHub?
>>140725721
Nope. Will check it out, though.
>>140725721
>Java
>50% of code is exception handling
laughing_/g/.jpeg
>>140717716
More flamboyant colors
>>140684148
Mi-8 is a solid heli, easy to learn and easy to fly.
Much, MUCH more stable than the Huey and a lot faster too. Downsides are lack of LASER AIM Door gunners and being slightly less agile.
It is very comfy too because of Russian cockpit design and you can learn it in a weekend honestly. If you have spare money buy it, otherwise wait for a sale.
can someone just rip the blue flag mission away from those faggots and just host it your self?
I guess the only issue would be that we wouldn't have that online map thing.
>>140730451
>I guess the only issue would be that we wouldn't have that online map thing.
Or a server that can host that many people.
Anyone getting the meme campaign for teh P-51?
>DCS: Roleplay as a drug dealer because we can't be bothered making a real campaign.
>>140733807
Can't wait for DCS: Normandy AKA "Go strafe that german column of BTR-80s and Trucks with ZU-23s"
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2763966&postcount=1362
butthurt general
>>140736587
DCS is fucking dead.
Mass migration of /simg/ to BMS when
>>140738260
We already operate on both you silly.
Thank bmshost for that.
>>140738485
This, there is no reason not to play both.
>>140730451
Load up the server, let a replay be generated (should only take a few seconds), open the replay file, change its extension from trk to miz, then open the replay in the mission editor. If you want to see the scripts that Blue Flag uses, change the extension to .zip and look for lua files.
This should get you everything that's included in the DCS mission file and the source files for whatever lua scripts run the mission.
It won't give you whatever external tools they might use of course, but it's better than nothing.
>>140723673
LODs are swapped out purely based on pre-defined distances. Something like BMS Smart Scaling wouldn't cause a big enough difference that LODs would need to be changed.
>>140724131
It's just a quad with a texture on it, but that texture is generated based on the model itself. Considering the Wing Commander-esque angle snapping, I think they generate the texture once at startup and then reference it like a sprite sheet but I'm not 100% sure on that yet. The generated textures are based on the LOD0 model, so no matter the distance the object is at, it'll still look like its at its highest detail if the impostor is showing.
>>140739434
If I get time later today I'll see what I can do with the blueflag mission.
Also if anyone has a replay from blueflag round 5 please send it to me since the current blueflag seems worse from what I've heard.
>>140738485
>grey cockpit
>>140740814
Wasn't me who made the webm senpai
I just saved it back then.
Is there a way to move that annoying message box in DCS to a different position? Or to set its length and width?
At the moment its friggin annoying as shit.
Recently bought the Carenado Cessna 207 for FSX and I've been flying around VFR Alaska a lot. Nice change of pace from the IFR commercial flights I normally do.
>>140744803
Nigga i'm not here to learn IFR
I'm here to shoot shit
>>140745001
>he doesn't like relaxing commercial flights at 36k feet
>he doesn't like flying just above Alaska's wilderness
shit taste 2bh fampai
>>140745320
My shits are more exciting than sitting on autopilot at 35k feet for hours.
>>140745468
The telltale sign of Top Gun-itis, AKA the telltale sign of a fake pilot.
>>140745001
>>140745468
>>140745320
Frankly I just speed up the cruise part of the flight if it's boring commercial shit. More manual flying like bush crafts is a ton more interesting.
I mostly play civil flight sims for the eye candy and the hand flying parts of a flight.
how do you make fsx rudder control not suck dicks
>he's not flying MiG-25's right now
>>140748571
I'd like SF2 a lot more if it wasn't so fucking ancient and it had multiplayer.
>>140751475
but thats bms tho
Bump
>>140755261
>tfw I never got my guns to work in SF2
>tfw sims have no soul or character anymore
Watching all these old sim intros and shit...
I miss the golden age of flight sims.
>>140756785
RIP in pieces
>>140756785
>tfw games have no soul or character anymore
Fixed. There's only 1 or 2 exceptions in the sea of games that actually tries.
>>140758309
>tfw all creative output by anyone has no soul or character anymore
fix'dd
thank you based breezy
god of meme production
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=165928
just posted
>>140761121
>LNS is making their own deck crew in addition to their own carrier to be included for free with the F-14
The absolute madmen.
DA BOYZ
>>140761121
Viggen release WHEN
>>140761121
>>140762706
>>140504429
>Went through so much internal problems and that fucking laszlo guy stealing all their money, dissapearing and nearly making the whole Mig-21 project history
>Got their shit together, even without the promised funding from the indiegogo campaign, understanding their shortcomings and crisis
>Delivered one of the best, somewhat relevant, and enjoyable DCS module and experience so far
>Making absurdly fast progress on the other two modules which are planned
>Meanwhile VEAO can't even get their shit right, Aviodev is almost completely irrelevant and Razbam is doing lolguesswork
Holy shit why is Leatherneck so fucking based. Were it not ED forcing it's shitty timezone for updates, the DCS scene wouldn't be so fucked.Belsimtek and Polychop are alright though, they've have got their shit tightly packed and neatly assembled.
>>140764531
>Aviodev is almost completely irrelevant
Was Aviodev EVER relevant?
>>140764798
The C-101 they're doing is one of the most capable trainer aircraft out of all the ones currently offered. AFAIK it can even launch anti-ship missiles.
Their mirage also sounded like something that would be prettyfunto fly around with.
I see this is simulator general but the only simulators being discussed are airplanes.
Might as well just rename the thread.
>>140765413
If you want to talk about something in particular start talking about it yourself you crybaby.
>>140765413
We do actually welcome other types of simulators as stated in the OP.
However the absolute majority of /simg/ plays flight sims more than other sims.Personally, I really wanted more tank simmers present
>>140765413
every day until you like it
>>140765413
other simulators arent actually simulators tho
F-23 never ever
>tfw when /da bois/ woopin ass on blue flag testing
>tfw MiG-21 and 29's bodying F-15's and A-10's
>tfw some Russian players is asking for help from da bois
Based ops
>>140769057
You better bring some webms.
>>140769057
please show proofs
THE LEGEND OF /дa бoйз/ GROWS
good tip for learning systems like radars in the heat of battle as i never could get the hang of it until now - press alt+z to slow down time
also simulates amphetamines the pilot would be on
>A-10's keep flying straight into a nest of MiG-29's
>Keep getting blown the fuck out
>"WOW UR SO GOOD IN YOUR ARCADE PLANE FAGGOT"
Holy fucking shit I'm fucking crying
Blufor on suicide watch
Thread has been kill by Tony in Mig-21
>>140775226
>10 posts early
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