[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
Fate/Grand Order General - /fgog/
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /vg/ - Video Game Generals

Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 154
File: 56370110_p0.png (645 KB, 1000x775) Image search: [Google]
56370110_p0.png
645 KB, 1000x775
Previous >>138938228

>[Da Vinci and the Seven Fake Servants event]
- 4/11 to 4/20
- Collect Real Manuscripts and Fake Manuscripts from event quests, and use them to roll lottery gachas
- Knight Classes for Real, Cavalry for Fake, Special classes for both
- Real Manuscript gacha:
Jackpot: 5* Jeanne Alter CE: 10% Buster up, +15% NP charge to allies upon death, +100% "Fake" enemy spawn rate
Knight Pieces and Monuments
Horseshoes, Crystals, Fangs, Proofs
- Fake Manuscript gacha:
Jackpot: 5* Jeanne CE: 10% Buster up, generates 3 stars per turn, +100% "Real" enemy spawn rate
Cavalry Pieces and Monuments
Pages, Jewels, Dust, Bones
- Both have Apples, EXP, Prisms
- EITHER Real Manuscript OR Fake Manuscript daily can be done each day
- Event shop uses other drops as currency
5* Da Vinci CE: 30% starting NP, 20% Heal bonus
New America mats
Hearts, Claws, Feathers, Lanterns, Homo Babies, Skill stones, Fou

>[Jeanne Alter gacha]
- 4/11 to 4/20
- New Limited Servant: 5* AVENGER Jeanne Alter
- New 4* CEs, each drops +1 of a different event currency:
Kuzuki: 30% Arts up (3 turns), +1 Self Portrait
Ryuunosuke: 25% bonus damage to Humans, +1 Vitruvian Man
Jack's Master: 15% Heal bonus, +1 Mona Lisa

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes:
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Friendlist reset due to changes in how support system works
- Update coming out in late April/early May that includes 6th bond point (+10 unique CE unlocked by reaching max bond for 10 servants), present box history UI and ability to change ascension art used by command cards during battles

>Datamine
http://pastebin.com/LDRZ5ac5

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
>>
>not a liz thread
fuck off
>>
nerocucks please go
>>
File: 2.jpg (215 KB, 1597x879) Image search: [Google]
2.jpg
215 KB, 1597x879
xth for best archer
>>
I love my empressu~!
>>
File: CaYEqp3UUAAPJur.jpg orig.jpg (198 KB, 877x1024) Image search: [Google]
CaYEqp3UUAAPJur.jpg orig.jpg
198 KB, 877x1024
best daughteru
>>
File: 1451915048286.jpg (111 KB, 700x941) Image search: [Google]
1451915048286.jpg
111 KB, 700x941
xth for best archer.
>>
>>138966334
Hans is a better caster for quick meme teams
40% party crit buff with a 2 turn downtime at rank 10 is pretty stupid, plus some extra stars just because.
>>
File: Tesla1.jpg (71 KB, 622x500) Image search: [Google]
Tesla1.jpg
71 KB, 622x500
>>138967093
Whoops, shit king

>>138967176
Whoops, shit on the street

Posting true best archer
>>
File: 20160416_16_38_01.jpg (18 KB, 296x359) Image search: [Google]
20160416_16_38_01.jpg
18 KB, 296x359
>>138967138
xth for she can only handle the small ones attached to big boys
>>
Nobu a CUTE.
>>
File: 1438716560808.jpg (56 KB, 600x421) Image search: [Google]
1438716560808.jpg
56 KB, 600x421
>>138967093
That's best Gilgamesh class, best archer is a sword.
>>
How are you guys doing in the Da Vinci gacha?
Acquired all the real scroll stuff, still missing the Lore from the fake one.
>>
The chinks made a log of their rolls.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18HO6VN53GNuY5eI4HP-n0eeUHefKKi6e1NRc_iuLpvU
>>
File: 1459518546579.png (197 KB, 532x502) Image search: [Google]
1459518546579.png
197 KB, 532x502
>>138967263
So mine?
>>
File: Alexander.png (386 KB, 571x480) Image search: [Google]
Alexander.png
386 KB, 571x480
Soon
>>
>>138967183
Put Twice on Andersen.
Pair her with NR,slapped with Last Encore or Hakunon.
Insert Jack/CasLiz for stars and there you go,Crit Caster team.
>>
>>138967391
How could anyone hate this man?
>>
lewd
>>
>>138967328
How does the gacha work past the Lore reset?
No more golden apples and jackpot I know that, but seems like I can't reset anymore. Or do I have to collect everything before I can reset again?
>>
>>138967183
I don't need my Caster to do damage, stars, or buffs for my quick meme team. I need them to be able do shitload of heal the moment they come to the frontline, because it means I took loads of damage; and Medea Lily is the perfect Servant for the job.
>>
What are fairies like in Nasuverse? Are they crazy and batshit? Are gay tinklebell things?
>>
>>138967475
Delete this
>>
>>138967459
VIDYA GAEMS AND CONQUEST XD
>>
>Da Vinci event is really about Joan Alter
>Ishkandar event is really about him invading the Mooncell to try to conquer it, and tries to fight various Alter Egos, which leads into the next event.

That would probably be the most interesting way to handle this, I doubt anyone would expect it.
>>
>>138967364
What do sections B,C and D say?
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (184 KB, 1024x1071) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.jpg
184 KB, 1024x1071
>>138967138
Hopefully physically. Her enormous hedonism, excess & lust greatly pleases Slaanesh.
>>
>>138967513
Fairies are just the tools of the earth. Most of them don't even have personalities.
>>
>>138967496
The second thing you said.
It's also missing silver apples.
>>
>>138967496
When you clear eerything you can reset this and clear it again and again.
>>
File: 1460740026140.jpg (325 KB, 1521x1899) Image search: [Google]
1460740026140.jpg
325 KB, 1521x1899
>>138967328
Waiting for the best maps before really investing apples into clearing the shop, but 6 and 5 on the manuscript gachas. All the mats and EXP cards it throws out are like a dream.

New connecting... story chapter and map any second now.
>>
File: 1460771269194.jpg (95 KB, 800x792) Image search: [Google]
1460771269194.jpg
95 KB, 800x792
Are you ready?
>>
>>138967513
Watch the KnK movie with Azaka going to school.
>>
>>138967504
>Hans
>not doing heal

Are you fucking serious
>>
what's in today quest???????
>>
>>138967513
Inhuman in nature

By which I mean they don't have the same morality as humans at least. However faeries in classic stories were like that as well honestly.

So maybe they're exactly like classic faeries before the recent renditions that made them gayer.
>>
>>138967459
>how can anyone hate a shit-tier king who talks shit about better kings
>>
>>138967620
Ah. Sucks. I like my crazy old stories of them raising hell. I was hoping he would make them kinda impish or slightly deranged.
>>
>>138967513
They're like old men-
>>
>Protection of the Fairies (精霊の加護, Seirei no Kago?, localized as Divine Aegis) to boost his Luck, the effect would only last for 3 turns. He will use this skill on the 2nd move.
That's interesting, but I hope that isn't part of his skillet in GO, that's a worthless skill here.
>>
>>138967750
>Ishkandar haters are all butthurt Saberfags who still try to misunderstand that scene to this day in order to think he was just talking shit and was full of shit.

Its amazing how much these guys overlook due to "muh waifu".
>>
>>138967607
How many rolls
No of 5*
No of Jeanne Alter
>>
>>138967770
Well, Arcuied can be considered a fairy. Technically speaking.
>>
>>138967770
Arc is essentially just a big fairy and she's pretty impish.
>>
File: cool.jpg (68 KB, 400x257) Image search: [Google]
cool.jpg
68 KB, 400x257
>tfw fully ascended 9 servants this event
Based
>>
>>138967745
Oh okay. That gives me hope then. I know Nasu is well aware of the traditional depictions. It would ddefinitely fit in more with his lore on them too.
I'm just sick of the gay fairies.

>>138967921
>>138967938
True. She does that side to her.
>>
>>138967719
He only can do heal over time and he doesn't have Medea Lily High Speed Divine Words that can make her go from zero to 100% NP bar at skill level 4. He also doesn't have Medea Lily heal boosting skill.
>>
>>138967750
>Iskander's Kingdom
>failed when he died
>Saber's Kingdom
>failed during her life
Yeah, uh, about that.
>>
File: KIRARAIDA.jpg (130 KB, 640x718) Image search: [Google]
KIRARAIDA.jpg
130 KB, 640x718
>>138967916
Oh...

Oh shit

>Guy did 300 rolls and didn't get a single Jeanne
>>
>>138967093
That's not Archer Lancelot

>>138967513
They know what's best that's why they raised Lancelot
>>
>>138967719
What does a heal of 1k over 3 turns do compared to a heal getting your whole team up to full?
If he uses battlesuit and switches Medea Lily in, she is way more useful Andersen is ever going to be
>>
>>138967618
Chaos Arturia pls go.
>>
>>138967849
Gawain's skills
>Riding
>Numeral of Saint
>Protection of Fairies
>Charisma
>Magic Resistance

Take your pick

>>138968000
I think its more that Nasu just has a huge trope about how things that aren't entirely human have very warped or different morality, that can't be considered on the same scale as humans.

It just so happens that it lines up in this case a bit.
>>
>>138967723

Dragons and 130k HP Jeanne Alter.
>>
>>138967938
>>138967921
if arc is a fairy, then is tsukihime a fairy tale?
>>
File: bruh.jpg (57 KB, 790x230) Image search: [Google]
bruh.jpg
57 KB, 790x230
>>138968067
Or 5* for that matter

This fucking' gacha bruh
>>
>>138968062
Are there any other kings who had their kingdoms collapse in their lifetimes or is it just Saber? Is Saber the worst monarch in all of Fate?
>>
>>138967070
Fuck Dark Jeanne.

My Granblue account rolled Naru, Grey, Vampy, Vira and regular Jeanne but no matter how many rolls I threw at that shitty limited gacha I couldn't roll Dark Jeanne.

FGO gave me superior Jeanne Alter anyway.
>>
>>138968151
>I think its more that Nasu just has a huge trope about how things that aren't entirely human have very warped or different morality, that can't be considered on the same scale as humans.
But that's how it is in folklore abotu that stuff all the time anyway. What's the difference?

>>138968204
lel
>>
>>138968204
A Twilight fairy tale.
>>
>all these Riders
>when I picked Da Vinci as support
Fuck.
>>
>>138967364
>27000+ rolls
JESUS
>>
>>138968204
Anything you want it to be.
Except remade.
>>
>>138968062
>Iskander's Kingdom
>Bunch of nobodies and literally who's
>Arturia Kingdom
>UNRIVALED and his son
Not even close
>>
>>138968067
>780 rolls
>1 5*
It was probably Orion too, jesus.
>>
File: 3040080000_02.png (151 KB, 960x800) Image search: [Google]
3040080000_02.png
151 KB, 960x800
Best Jeanne.
>>
>>138968236
Darius, kinda.
>>
File: Screenshot_2016-04-16-12-06-49.png (1 MB, 1280x720) Image search: [Google]
Screenshot_2016-04-16-12-06-49.png
1 MB, 1280x720
Who /easymodo/ here?
>>
>>138968236
Nero also was pretty shit ruler but she committed sudoku before everything went down the drain.
>>
File: 35-HF04-04-054.jpg (107 KB, 800x600) Image search: [Google]
35-HF04-04-054.jpg
107 KB, 800x600
I wonder how Zerofags will react to HF. You know, in the very first movie they will have a recap of the Fourth War by Kotomine himself, I'm pretty sure that ufotable will throw Zero's footage there.
>>
>>138967908
>implying his ideal isn't worse
>implying his over reliance on a figurehead leader wasn't begging for the kingdom to split after his death
>implying Iskander dealt with anywhere near the number of sabotages, traitors & people who've been ploting from the beginning
>>
>>138968414
The Empire lasted long after Nero, although she didn't help it.
>>
File: 98025100za.png (261 KB, 1024x768) Image search: [Google]
98025100za.png
261 KB, 1024x768
Who is this Nazgul?
>>
>>138968435
>they will have a recap of the Fourth War by Kotomine himself
So he will tell them how awesome UNRIVALED was and that he was glad he managed to get him on his side because if he didn't Gilgamesh would have been wrecked?
>>
>>138968151
Riding and Magic Resistance are passive, he has only two skills in his stat page that are Charisma E and Numeral of the Saint EX and three other combat skills.
>Protection of the Fairies (精霊の加護, Seirei no Kago?, localized as Divine Aegis) to boost his Luck, the effect would only last for 3 turns. He will use this skill on the 2nd move.
>Siege Perilous (円卓の刻印, ?) to boost his defense, it seals enemy Skills when using GUARD. The effect would only last for 3 turns. He will use this skill on the 5th move.
>Blade of the Devoted (忠義の剣閃, ?), a powerful strike with Excalibur Galatine. He will use this skill on the 3rd move.
>>
>>138968062
>failed during life
>found traitors
>civil war
>managed to defeat traitors
>only reason she got injured was because Mordred's corpse moves on its own
>>
>>138967364
Are the times on the name the time at which they started rolling?
So 7:30AM JST is the best time to roll then
>>
>>138968236
Napoleon. Twice.
>>
Nero's got a pretty big potential to be a berserker, instead of saber, considering she was pretty damn crazy.
>>
>>138968498
>implying Iskander dealt with anywhere near the number of sabotages, traitors & people who've been ploting from the beginning
He didn't deal with as many because he was a more likeable person. Women wanted him and men wanted to be him, meanwhile Saber was an unapproachable robot who made a pretty huge proportion of her subjects resent her.

And the difference between the two is Iskander led a nation that would definitely collapse after he died, and did, while Saber ruled a dynastic monarchy that was supposed to continue after her, and didn't.
>>
>>138968678
>managed to defeat traitors
She said she can't beat Lancelot
>>
>>138968679
It's the time they start rolling but I'm not sure if it's jap time or taiwan time.
>>
>>138968103
>Archer
>implying he has any noticeable skill in Archery
Try Tristian
>>
>>138968678
>managed to defeat traitors

Her entire kingdom was in ruins. Most of her loyal forces dead. Merlin trapped in Avalon. I like Arturia and Iskandar, and only secondaries who watched the animu think they are somehow rivals.
>>
>>138967849
Doesn't Lancelot has protection of the faries?
isn't it a worthless star gen skill
>>
>>138968772
That's why he ran away, right?
>>
>>138968498
Well to be fair his real objective was to never stop reaching the unknown and inspire people to do so by being a symbol of what everyone wanted to be, not really to rule. As he is in Zero he is basically more of an explorer than a king. He kind of represents humanity desire of conquering every mountain and reaching every place.
>>
>>138968689
Napoleon isn't in Fate though
>>
>>138968769
>Women wanted him and men wanted to be him
So he was Lancelot but king? Would Lancelot have been a better king than Arturia?
>>
>>138968772
Lancelot wasn't a traitor, Gawuss just assumed he was and didn't let him go to help her.
>>
File: Screenshot 2016-04-16_12-15-06.jpg (392 KB, 1516x847) Image search: [Google]
Screenshot 2016-04-16_12-15-06.jpg
392 KB, 1516x847
Saber quest drops.

Remember to put your Reikas on your archers.
>>
>>138968907
Not yet, you mean.
>>
>arturia
>kingdom collapses into civil war while she lives
>iskander
>kingdom falls apart once dies
>gilgamesh
>ruled for 126 years and peacefully passed the crown to his son
>>
>>138968769
>didn't deal with as many
>implying people like Mordred & Morgan weren't thinking of ways to usurp regardless
>implying Iskander can singlehandedly ensure no traitors
>>
>>138968826
Yeah, but I don't think DW will put that skill on Gawain.
He has more than enough for they to choose whatever sound cool.
My bet is Charisma, Numeral of the Saint and Blade of the Devoted.
>>
>>138968940
Thanks famalam

So Saber quest is the best one for Mona Lisa now?
>>
>>138968930
>Lancelot wasn't a traitor
He committed adultery with the Kings wife, then directly disobeyed her orders and killed his fellow knights, then fled the nation and raised a rebel army to escape his punishment.

He was absolutely a traitor.
>>
>>138968638
Considering they like pandering to the Zerofags, there is a good possiblity they'll have quick flash of Kariya at some point during Heaven Feel's run, so who knows?
>>
>>138968930
>Wasn't a traitor
>Commited adultery with the king's wife
>Killed fellow knights
>ran off like a bitch
>wasn't a traitor
You're fucking retarded
>>
File: i love my empressu.png (292 KB, 500x432) Image search: [Google]
i love my empressu.png
292 KB, 500x432
>>138968704
Her Imperial Privilege probably prevents it. It's probably too unsightly of a class for her to be.
>>
File: cards.png (615 KB, 512x875) Image search: [Google]
cards.png
615 KB, 512x875
>>138968961
>>138968907
>>
>>138968804
>EAM
Tristan is shittier

>>138968834
He ran because he didn't want to humilliate Arturia in front of everyone.

>>138968993
Nice try Gilfag but Andersen doesn't agree
>>
>>138969032

Yes, tomorrow's quest is probably going to give manuscripts.
>>
>>138968825
>somehow rivals
There's no rivalry anon. Arturia had the greater struggle. Besides, Iskander isn't even best Conqueror.
>>
>>138968769
>Iskander led a nation that would definitely collapse after he died, and did
How is this positive?
You are basically saying he didn't even tried and that's why he managed to do it.
>>
>>138968268
>What's the difference?

Its just very uncommon these days for writers in some way, or its a hard concept to grasp for some people. Its like there's been a big push to line up morality to make it easier to grasp rather than having a thousand condition aspects.

Like when they try to list a vampire out as evil. The vampire cannot be inherently evil simply because it eats humans, since it needs to do that to survive. It can be considered evil depending on its own actions however or if it tortures its prey perhaps. Its just that you can't list such a thing against it any more than you would list all humans as evil for eating animal meat.

An animal/monster can't be considered evil as it lacks understanding within its own actions, but a sentient animal that had the same exact morality as humans might be considered evil.

Merlin is stated to have inhuman blood which warps his morality. It mainly just makes him very strange in some ways. He views things as simply happening, he feels very neutral, even if Camelot would fall he would simply say that its going to happen, and do nothing to stop it. Some say GoA indicated he loved Arthuria, but he couldn't realize it since his inhuman blood made him autistic. He considers this his sin, since its the first time he felt any humanity.
>>
Truly mind-blowing dialogue in this event
>>
>>138968994
Iskander had his family members try and take the throne from him as well you know? He just dealt with it much better, and was more charismatic.
>implying Iskander can singlehandedly ensure no traitors
Never said that.
>>
>>138969092
Not too sure about the legs, but not too shabby a design otherwise.
>>
>>138969106
>He ran because he didn't want to humiliate Arturia in front of everyone
More like he was scared shitless like the little bitch he is
>>
>>138969106
>EAM
>implying this is anywhere near Fail-Not's level
You can aim for your balls & still hit your enemy in the face with Fail-Not.
>>
>>138968410
>Easy mode
>When there's no star gen for Alter in that team

doin' it all wrong senpai
>>
File: 1340481776288.jpg (35 KB, 352x352) Image search: [Google]
1340481776288.jpg
35 KB, 352x352
>>138969173
We've reached the highest point of Type-Moon writing here
>>
>>138969173
TL?
>>
>>138969173
What else are you supposed to say when you walk in on lesbian sex?
>>
>>138969048
>>138969071
>He committed adultery with the Kings wife
Because the king had no dick

>then directly disobeyed her orders and killed his fellow knights
They were murderers trying to kill the queen

>then fled the nation and raised a rebel army to escape his punishment
He fled to protect the queen and he didn't need no army because he is UNRIVALED
>>
>>138969174
He had someone alike Morgan create a clone of him & all? I doubt his family was on Morgan's level.
>>
>>138969161
Yeah but that's what I'm saying, Nasu seems much more open to the traditional depictions of monsters.
Humans are big fucking pussies that no one likes.
>>
>>138968256
>superior
Fuck you man. She might be added and you might get her with a ticket later on unlike this shit.
>>
>>138969323
Oh shit I'm sorry
>>
>>138969335
>king had no dick
Read the VN, she had a futa dick.
>>
>>138969431
>I'm sorry

Don't lie
>>
>>138969232
Why would the strongest be scared, are you stupid?

>>138969263
>UNRIVALED
Lancelot is better because he was UNRIVALED and that includes Tristan
>>
>>138969335
>Because the king had no dick
That doesn't make cheating okay you tard.
>>
>>138969173
Way to fucking ruin a character with this shitty event.
>>
>>138969431
>being sorry
>when you walk in on lesbian sex
Kill yourself
>>
>>138969106
>He ran because he didn't want to humilliate Arturia in front of everyone.
He had no problems being the direct cause of the Kingdom going to shit, being the murderer of a kid he "loved like his own son", and basically taking a gigantic shit all over the very of what being a knight means. Forgive me if I have difficulty buying that crock of bullshit.
>>
Final boss should be Jesus corrupted by people putting so much value on the Holy Grail and twisting its purpose.
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (53 KB, 534x460) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.jpg
53 KB, 534x460
>>138969335
>king had no dick
>>
>>138969390
I hope she is, because I want her. I don't even know who else my team could use, the fifth spot is kinda filler.

So obviously I should fill it with dark waifu. I'm tempted to just save all of my crystals until she gets added again, but I kinda want to roll Danua
>>
>>138969335
>They were murderers trying to kill the queen
Not really, you can say Agravain was a jerk but Gareth and Gaheris were there unarmed and showing their displeasure about the whole thing.

Lancelot killed them regardless though, because he was blind by rage.
>>
>>138969470
Strap ons are shit and isn't as good as Lancelot's dick technique.
>>
File: 56050543_p5.jpg (1 MB, 2526x1920) Image search: [Google]
56050543_p5.jpg
1 MB, 2526x1920
>>138969323
Depends on who are the ones having sex.
>>
>>138969431
Sorry, for what? Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of dicks. Specially since they're such good size and all.
>>
>>138969483
>>138969527
>this new
>>
>>138969130

Yeah, because Iskandar was basically filling Shirou's role who wanted to save her from her suffering. They are continuously compared by Nasu, including by the added bonus scene in UBW epilogue where Waver is reminded of Iskandar when he meets Shirou.

He is in Nasuverse though, that's why he's the King of Conquerors, and not someone else.

Arturia didn't have the "greater struggle" if you actually bothered to read FZ, you'll realize that they are the best of what could have come out from their eras. A ruler like Arturia would be murdered the first day of her rule in Iskandar time, because she wouldn't fit for what the people of his time wanted. Same goes for Iskandar.

Only Gil sucked. Arturia refused to acknowledge him as ruler but she wanted to reach out for Iskandar after she realized he considered his men his treasure. She misunderstood him because she's a judgemental and narrowminded for half of FZ. That Saber would have told Shirou to stay the fuck out her way and send him packing to the kitchen, she wouldn't have liked him, because she only liked knights like Diarmuid.
>>
>>138969151
No, I'm saying that the argument that Iskanders nation failed when he died doesn't work on two levels. One, he was a warlord who gained his nation and army based on force of will and personality, with no clear successor on the same level of skill, who died young and before the maturity that warlords sometimes gain as they age to make a proper empire. When Iskander died, his empire died with him. That could be argued as a negative, because he didn't make a dynasty, but he wasn't trying to in any real way, or if he was he didn't live long enough to see it through.

The second point is that Saber, who ruled a nation based on succession, one that is expressly designed to keep going after the rulers death, had her nation collapse BEFORE Iskanders, who had no back up for any huge schism, did. Saber didn't even die and lead into a succession problem, she just had the country collapse around her.

Saber was a worse ruler, there isn't any argument at all. Any possible 'b-but Iskander didn't build a lasting empire' falls to pieces because Sabers collapsed while she was still around.
>>
>>138969560
Arturia forgave him more or less to avoid a shitstorm. She had Saxons or some enemy approaching & didn't want her men scattered & in a civil war when they arrived. It backfired.
>>
>>138968826
Probably would be better on literally any other class that can generate stars on stuff other than NP
>>
Why is Helena so sexual?
>>
>>138969382
Read a bit more about his mother and his father.
>>
>>138969565
>Jesus
>Corrupted

Guy is like Gilgamesh, in the sense that he's the original "I took all six billion sins in creation upon my back, and did not buckle at all. I have overcome the world, and if you follow me, I will help you overcome it as well".

Buhdda has a skill that lets him negate all the sins of the world, and you know Jesus surely has the same ability since that's part of his lore. When he was dying upon the cross he took all sin in creation throughout time upon him, in order to have it die with him.

Then he came back three days later after having cleansed himself again of sin.
>>
File: 56383654_p2.png (537 KB, 815x600) Image search: [Google]
56383654_p2.png
537 KB, 815x600
>>
>>138968410
>t. GOLD
>>
File: CgK_itnUkAAgHi2.jpg (71 KB, 600x745) Image search: [Google]
CgK_itnUkAAgHi2.jpg
71 KB, 600x745
>>
>>138969723
>It backfired.
That should be the title of Arturia's fucking memoirs, holy shit.
Sword of Promised Victory my goddamn ass.
>>
>>138969686
>save her
After reading the Fate route, I say that Shirou had the superior approach.
>King of Conquerors
Somewhere in the afterlife Genghis Khan & Chandragupta Maurya just bursted into laughter.
>F/Z
Try the Fate route. The entire thing was about how Arturia isn't as bad of a king as she thinks.
>>
>>138969686
>Iskander would have been murdered in Britain
>Man renowned for the loyalty of his men and even his enemies, to the point where they join his armies
>Can also please Guinevere
kek

>only Gil sucked
>objectively the best ruler out of all of them, over a century of prosperity in his nation and a lasting empire
apex kek
>>
>>138969918
You can blame Morgan le Fay for most of it.
Seriously, why should anyone blame her for the fact that her evil sorceress half-sister sabotaged her kingdom and people at every possible turn?
>>
I was listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oklJFTbvzaQ and did a roll and got Ushiwakamaru. Amazing
>>
>>138969173
Is there an actual translation of the rest of the event?
>>
>>138969910
cute
>>
>>138969717
And the other argument is that Iskander wouldn't have been able to stop Athuria's kingdom from falling into pieces.
What could he have done?
Go way to conquer Europe while Mordred steals the throne? Because once that happens, he is fucked.
>>
Did you guys forget Arturia literally was showed and told the future by Merlin and she failed to actually change that?
>>
>>138969323
"Do your best!"
>>
>>138969918
>implying shiny swords can solve such a problem
Unless you're thinking of getting Shirou some fap material, I doubt having Excalibur helps with getting people's shit together.
>>
>>138969997
>only Gil sucked
>objectively the best ruler out of all of them, over a century of prosperity in his nation and a lasting empire
Yeah because you know, havign to give your wife to the King to imptregnate her with his is totally okay.
Gilfags are the biggest cucks of all.
>>
>>138969605
>but Gareth and Gaheris were there unarmed
Not in Nasuverse.
>>
>>138970073
>Iskander
>Alienating Mordred like Saber did
Come on now
>>
>>138970061
>You can blame Morgan le Fay for most of it.
Can you? So far, she hasn't shown up at all, only been mentioned. For all we know she's just another dindu.
>>
>>138970061
Sounds like she was too soft and could had avoided most of her problems simply by crucifying Morgan, Lancelot and Guinevere.
>>
>>138970073
He would have never shunned Mordred in teh first place though. Things would have probably be really different and with different problems.
>>
>>138969997
>no dragonblood magic resistance
Morgan le Fay enchants him and through her puppet rules Britain as the dark queen forevermore
>>
>>138969173
The option to jump in and fuck both Bryn and Jeanne while leaving Mashu out of it is not available on the retail version. Sorry man
>>
File: 1459089849171.jpg (41 KB, 220x261) Image search: [Google]
1459089849171.jpg
41 KB, 220x261
>>138969997
Gilgamesh was a shit ruler for a decade or so until Enkidu came along. After his adventures he returned to Uruk and was a 10/10 king for the rest of his life. It's just that secondary shits hate Nasu Gilgamesh so much they don't want to acknowledge he did anything well.
>>
Why is Medb's NP about her being able to fuck shit?
>>
>do paid roll for the first time ever after using 300 free jewels and getting fuck all
>LITERALLY first roll
>arjuna

getting real tired of this shit, DW
>>
File: Untitled.png (215 KB, 1064x717) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.png
215 KB, 1064x717
>>138970082
>>
>>138970172
>Yeah because you know, havign to give your wife to the King to imptregnate her with his is totally okay.
?
It clearly works, what is your point? It even led to Gil finding his best friend ever.
>>
>>138970183
She's solely responsible for the creation of Mordred and the styling of Mordred's personality, as well as the reason Artoria kept Mordred at a distance. Also the loss of Avalon.
Those "mentions" are pretty heavy stuff.
>>
>>138969985
>I say that Shirou had the superior approach.

Did you actually read the Fate route? Because his approached fucking sucked even after he got her memories, only after he saw everything that happened to her and he matured, he could do anything. All Iskandar had was the scraps she told him about. They were basically doing the same without information. Iskandar thought her kingship was the problem because she misled him but he called out that she would walk into a path of self destruction if she didn't give up that unhealthy wish, and that she was shaming those who died and fought for her. Which is basically what Shirou thinks by the way.

>Somewhere in the afterlife Genghis Khan & Chandragupta Maurya just bursted into laughter.

Not relevant to Nasuverse, anon. They are inferior to Iskandar who is the official king of conquest.

>The entire thing was about how Arturia isn't as bad of a king as she thinks.

Which is also in FZ and you completely miss the point of their misunderstanding. Why don't you try to read, secondary-kun? She was the one who started this shitty argument too, but ufotable cut that out.
>>
>>138970178
>implying he can spend so much one-on-one time & that Morgan won't scheme anyways
>>
>>138970230
>implying Morgan doesn't fall for Iskanders charisma and charm
>>
Why I wasted all my quartz in this dark whore, should I have waited another waifu tier character now I have this avenger lesbian. I want to burn her.
>>
>>138970270
This post will be ignored by most of the idiots in this thread, sadly.
>>
>>138970430
All Mo-chan wanted was to be acknowledged. Iskander would've done that, easy.
>>
>>138970451
>implying that shit works on a fairy
what part of "le Fay" escapes you
Merlin wouldn't go for it either, being human and proud does nothing for those with nonhuman hearts and minds
>>
>>138970314
>implying I should let my waifu be some breeding sow for some douchebag
>implying I should raise his bastard instead of murdering it
So how does it feel to be a cuck, Gilfag?
>>
Can we go back to argue about tits and asses?
>>
>>138970270
Andersen said he was shit, always.
>>
>>138970430
Alexander had his father killed before he killed him for the throne. He dealt with his cunt of a mother who was Morgan-like too.
>>
>>138970174
Actually in GoA is pretty much said by Lancelo himself that Agravain was the only evil one so Gareth and Gaheris just had really bad luck.
>>
>>138970270
To be fair, not even Gil thinks he was a good ruler. He more or less accepts all of Andersen's criticisms and admits he thinks his child self would probably have a fit if he knew about adult Gil.
>>
>>138970606
And Kariya said Lancelot is the strongest servant.
You literally are jetfag tier right now
>>
>>138970560
Iskanders charisma is stronger then magic. It's strong enough that he can be summoned as a Caster with a total of one magic trick, that is just his charisma personified.

Fairys ain't got shit on that.
>>
>Nasu says Saber is the ideal king
>Iskandar says she isn't
>CONQUEST XD
>>
>>138970223
>>138970178
>guy didn't leave heir despite having a son
>ever giving the throne to an autistic child who appears out of nowhere claiming he is your son
>>
File: 55771403_p0.jpg (742 KB, 933x1244) Image search: [Google]
55771403_p0.jpg
742 KB, 933x1244
Let's talk about how cute my waifu is!
>>
>>138970270
Did you read CCC? Gilgamesh says he wasn't a good ruler, he was a good judge.
>>
File: 1442088963800.png (156 KB, 834x818) Image search: [Google]
1442088963800.png
156 KB, 834x818
>>138970509
>>
File: 1460786785083.png (181 KB, 300x404) Image search: [Google]
1460786785083.png
181 KB, 300x404
>>138970392
Really, the heart of the matter is that Arturia was a gigantic fucking retard and ruined EVERYTHING by refusing to consider problems from a human point of view. If she'd taken even a single second to think of things from the point of Guinevere she would realize "Oh shit she needs love, I should pay attention to her.", "Oh shit Lancelot is a fucking moron and needs to be kept on a short leash or he will ruin everything." and "Oh shit, Mordred doesn't really want a throne, just a father. I need to make sure she understands that I don't despise her and get her away from Morgan's influence."
>>
>>138970601
There is no reason to argue, ass is superior to tits in every single way
>>
Do you think they'll make this game canon if Monte Cristo is in strange fake?
>>
>>138970680
Alexander the Great loved his mother. They sent messages back and forth regularly throughout his life and he believed (or at least went along with) her when she said his real father was Zeus.
I have no idea what revisionist history you've been reading.
>>
File: 1453317405133.png (166 KB, 486x800) Image search: [Google]
1453317405133.png
166 KB, 486x800
>>138970601
>>
>>138970805
And being a good judge led to a prosperous and wealthy kingdom that lasted long after his death, so he was, in fact, a good ruler as well. The facts speak for themselves.
>>
>>138970754
What? Did you actually read the Alexander Romancia because there, specially Persian perception of Iskandar is that he can summon thousands of djinns to be at his call. Namely, he's like Solomon II.

Alexander has a lot of mythical shit written about him.
>>
File: 1449584423280.jpg (43 KB, 512x384) Image search: [Google]
1449584423280.jpg
43 KB, 512x384
>>138970260
>He didnt buy the H-Scenes dlc pack
>>
>>138970834
>"Oh shit, Mordred doesn't really want a throne, just a father
Not even in GO does she realize this.
>>
>>138970750
But Lancelot is the strongest Servant, Nasu said he can easily take out other Servants.
>>
>>138970757
Death of the Author, nignog.
>>
>Iskandar
>Arthuria
>Gilgamesh
>Ozzy
>David
>Solomon

They're all shit kings,i wouldn't vote for any of them.
>>
>>138970834
I don't think it's entirely fair to blame Artoria for the fact that everyone around her were horrible, greedy people.
Camelot was a mess.
>>
>>138970921
None of which is mentioned in the Nasuverse senpai. There's lots of shit about most of the characters out there that doesn't apply to Nasuverse.
>>
Medb's more interesting than Memeskandar and Saber if you read Medb's interactions with Nero
>>
>Gilfags would give their waifu to Gil to fuck since they support his ruling style
Cucks.
>>
If you throwed cheese at medb, would she died?
>>
>>138971117
But Gil is my waifu
>>
>>138971026
I would actually rather like to live in Mordred's Camelot.
>>
>>138971026
>Ozzy
>Shit king
>successful rule over 60 years
>let the jews go (arguably a bad thing)
>best waifu
Ozzy shits on every king in Nasu
>>
>>138971117
At least they have a wife to give away you disgustingly obese memeposter
>>
File: UNRIVALLEDDETECTIVE.jpg (260 KB, 418x720) Image search: [Google]
UNRIVALLEDDETECTIVE.jpg
260 KB, 418x720
>>138970834
>Oh shit Lancelot is a fucking moron
Nice try Gilfag but Lancelot is the only Servant that discovered Iri was Angry Manjew after only meeting her for few minutes. He is THAT smart.
>>
>>138971073
What are they? I didn't know her room lines got translated yet.
>>
>>138970834
She handled the Guinevere situation as best she could, really.

Lancelot was basically supposed to break her out of her "imprisonment" and quietly run off into the night, except he botched that royally when he straight-up murdered the two unarmed knights who'd been posted as guards.
>>
>>138970754
You are delusional.
Gil has a higher rank of charisma and not everyone loves him, it's not a as if everyone will just fall at their knees by being near Iskander.
>>
>>138970921
Alexander Romancia also said that Bucephalus was superior to Pegasus. I don't think that's the version of the myth they went with considering Pegasus is a dragon-tier still-living phantasmal monstrosity equipped with A+ raiment and Bucephalus is B+ and generally mundane.
>>
>>138970973
>I'm right and Nasu is wrong
>>
>>138971189
Gil wants to fuck kid gil so....
>>
>Get reply back from F/GO support, not sure what it means

Anybody know moonrunes? Though I think they are asking me for my last purchase receipt
>>
>>138971026
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is a completely legitimate basis for a system government, I'll have you know,
>>
The main problem was that Artoria never suspected of Agravain even when he was shady as fuck and actually a Morgan spy. He was the cause of most of her problems really, he was the one who spurred Mordred feelings into hate, he was the one who alineated Artoria even more by saying to the other knights all the time that the king is not human and nobody can understand the king, he was the one who was the direct cause behind of Guinevere execution.

Seriously, remove Agravain and the kingdom would have went far better. But for some reason she let that guy do all that stuff behind her back and ruin the whole thing. She even made him his secretary for god's sake.
>>
>>138970419
>same information
Instead of saying "your ways a shit, mine better" he formed a relationship with her & all. She gradually grew more confident instead of receiving Kerry as a master & trauma like Lancelot 24/7. She slowly grew out of her quiet shell & more or less ended up being how she is in Avalon.
>not relevant
>superior conquerors aren't relevant
Kings aren't even the highest of ranks.
>FZ
>anon calling me a secondary
The entire point of the exchange was about their different ways of ruling & to give off a chance at showing off IH when Hassan came about. The show version IMO had Iskander appear to be a "victor" when the LN was closer to neutral thanks to Saber's narration & thoughts showing her to still be able to stand firm, abit acknowledging Iskander's point as a thorn in her side.
>>
>>138971275
>the two unarmed knights
Gareth and Gaheris aren't unnamed, anon.
They're Gawain's little brothers.
Why do you think he was so mad?
>>
>>138971368
I prefer strange women with magical cunts.
>>
File: All Archers.jpg (949 KB, 2028x1392) Image search: [Google]
All Archers.jpg
949 KB, 2028x1392
Choose one
>>
>>138971261
He's intelligent but deliberately avoids using his intelligence. He lives entirely by emotion and follows his first impulse in every situation refusing to think about things logicially. Ergo he is a moron and a liability and Arturia needed to be harsher with him. Even your precious Lancelot said as much, shitposter.
>>
>>138971026
Solomon kingdom was a good one, I would like to live there.
Ozzy doesn't seems bad at all as well.
>>
>>138966983
So what's cracking up in F/GO, haven't played it since KnK event.
>>
>>138971280
Gils charisma is inhuman, it's like a curse. Iskanders charisma functions totally different. The entire defining gimmick for Iskanders NP is that his men loved him so much, and were so loyal, even the ones who were former enemies follow him after their deaths. Which would be really, really useful in Sabers situation.
>>
File: 1449941158486.png (87 KB, 369x400) Image search: [Google]
1449941158486.png
87 KB, 369x400
>>138971453
Easy.
>>
>>138971437
I think one was his one & only son with Dame Ragnell.
>>
>>138971364
Why would they ask for that? You didn't try to refund directly instead through google did you?
>>
>>138967459
He's a genuinely shit character. He's delusional and annoying. He's a weakling that thinks he's hot shit.

>B-but muh BRO!

Nah
>>
>>138971587
I was trying to recover my account. I refunded through Google as always
>>
>>138971453
orion
>>
>>138971037
We haven't been introduced to Caster Iskandar yet.

>>138971282
Yes, because Bucephalus was more like Excalibur-tier only world wide (whoever tamed/rode the horse, would conquer the world), shit that passed through Rome and so was a fad to name your horse like that too.
>>
>>138971437
UnARMED, chap.
>>
So how long until the number of servants surpasses the number of Pokemon?
>>
>>138971668
The fad that spread with Bucephalus wasn't naming your horse after him, it was naming your main horse. Alexander the Great had a favourite horse on his conquests, so other generals named and stuck with their favourite as well.
>Bucephalus anywhere near on the same level as Excalibur
kek
>>
>>138971585
Not in Le Morte D'Arthur at least, which Nasu seems to take almost all of his inspiration from.
>>138971717
Gareth and Gaheris decided to not arm and armor themselves on guard duty, Lancelot was just too berserk to care.
>>
>>138971527
Saber charisma is rank B, not even that far behind, and it didn't helped in the sightless.
Gil charisma is A+, yet, he is still hated by some.
I don't know why you think Iskander, who is in the middle of those, would instantly make everyone love him just because. And his NP is only based on the fact his soldiers were extremely loyal to him, not that he made everyone love him.
>>
>>138971815
Pretty sure that we already have more Artorias than there is pokemens.
>>
File: TRUEUNRIVALLED.jpg (269 KB, 636x720) Image search: [Google]
TRUEUNRIVALLED.jpg
269 KB, 636x720
>>138971275
>when he straight-up murdered the two unarmed knights
Nice headcanon but they werent unarmed. They got fucked simply because Lancelot was much stronger.
>>
File: tierlist.png (21 KB, 368x701) Image search: [Google]
tierlist.png
21 KB, 368x701
Change log
4/16 set to 9.0 Rama
Set the 4/16 Lee Shobun to 9.0
Set the 4/16 Elena 9.0
Set the 4/16 Edison to 9.0
4/16 change the Siegfried to 6.5 → 7.0
Change the 4/16 Saber Lily to 7.5 → 8.0
Change the 4/16 Elisabeth Bartley to 8.0 → 8.5
>>
>>138971370
The main problem was that Arthuria discarded her humanity, so she had no humanity left to use basic empathy/ human logic when her various people were problematic in ways that could be fixed for a ruler that had not discarded their humanity.

A machine might be able to rule a kingdom, but if its a kingdom of people we're talking about, it will run into issues. There's a reason we need humans to rule other humans since you need some human understanding of other humans.

With her humanity she could use her own humanity as a basis and realize that Agravain is shady, that Lancelot was crazy, Gawain is easily angered, and the Mordred situation can be remedied easily as long as you don't spurn her entire existence without trying since you don't mince words in an almost autistic way.

Triston also wouldn't have left, since he was disgusted by the inhuman nature of the ruler.

A machine ruler might seem good on paper, but its really one of the worst things in some ways. A king that cannot understand the grievances, problems, or misgivings of her people because she is also human and can use that as a basis to read them, cannot ever help them. A machine can only make correct pragmatic decisions, rather than lead the people.
>>
File: Jack 1.jpg (107 KB, 850x1189) Image search: [Google]
Jack 1.jpg
107 KB, 850x1189
So what would be the perfect team for Jacky the ripper?

Arts servants, more quicks, which I really don't see the point of, or mainly star collectors?

I'm new please help
>>
>>138971927
Sadly there isn't enough Rise of Sir Gawain & alos Welsh tales. Welsh Kay/Cei & Bedivere/Bedwyr would be very great additions.
>>
該当アカウントにて聖晶石のご購入を確認いたしましたので
引き継ぎナンバー発行にあたり、ご本人様確認を行います。
恐れ入りますが下記項目をご確認の上、ご返信いただきますようお願い申し上げます。

「Android」の場合

・聖晶石の購入履歴(GPA.から始まる4桁-4桁-4桁-5桁の注文番号):

※決済済みのご購入履歴は、登録メールアドレス宛に送信されるレシートメール、または Googleウォレットにてご確認いただけます。

Anybody can help me translate what are they asking of me?
>>
>>138971432
>Instead of saying "your ways a shit, mine better"he formed a relationship with her & all.
Did you forget she was a self-righteous cunt who wanted to kill him when Iskandar helped to save his ass and thought herself superior to him because she was a knight? Oh, wait you don't because you're an anime secondary. Look Saber in Zero, specially before her trauma, was a bitch. She wouldn't have cared about Shirou's ways either, she was impatient to anyone who didn't comply the "chaste ways of knights". Only after her trauma she softened up, but Shirou wouldn't have been able to reach for her either. It was timing.

Not to say he didn't try the wrong approach, of course he did. But they were expected to battle too, they weren't Master/Servant with dream link and Shirou was oh so mature he stormed out when she didn't cave to his demands and told her to go and marry the Grail.

>Kings aren't even the highest of ranks.
Are you purposefully stupid? "Ou" isn't just "king", it's the same word Japanese use for "Emperor", namely it's supreme ruler which can be translated as king, emperor, biggest shot. He is to Conquerors what Saber is to Knights. The crop of the crop in Nasuverse. Deal with it.

>The entire point of the exchange was about their different ways of ruling & to give off a chance at showing off IH when Hassan came about.

No, this began before that, after he saved her from Lancelot. If you weren't a secondary, you would know the scene. Iskandar answered to her silent challenge.
>>
>>138972098
Get Okita or Scathach
>>
>>138971927
>Gareth and Gaheris decided to not arm and armor themselves on guard duty, Lancelot was just too berserk to care.
Reread the reply chain you've critically failed your reading comprehension
>>
>>138966983
>meme servant as OP
Kill yourself
>>
File: tierlist.png (28 KB, 463x808) Image search: [Google]
tierlist.png
28 KB, 463x808
Change log
Set the 4/16 Jeanne Horta to 9.5.
>>
>>138971954
Have you actually read the differences between the charismas? Gil has higher charisma but it worked differently to Iskanders on a basic level.

And it wasn't just his soldiers, it was people he met, his enemies, his rivals, even Servants he meets in Grail Wars fall for it. It was the basis for his entire empire, all his victories and conquests and so on and so forth. It's pretty great.
>would instantly make everyone love him just because
Not everyone, and not instantly, but there sure as shit wouldn't be a civil war, or splits within the Rounds, or children going batshit insane through rejection, and even the situation with Morgan could go differently.
>>
>>138972023
All those mentioned were skirmishes. This could mean jousts, like that time Sir Cligès or someone unhorsed him, or otherwise.
>>
File: go.jpg (184 KB, 856x642) Image search: [Google]
go.jpg
184 KB, 856x642
wish me luck
Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 154

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.