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NBEUD is TRASH edition
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>>135575974
乙
It's the same effect as before.
Friendly reminder that its a fact that Tripfags make a thread worse. Just look at the other generals
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>>135575974
>Konami made a card so bad that the fake leak was better.
Holy shit, this is some kind of low.
>>135575974
You had one job Konami. This is the last time Blue Eyes Ultimate will get a retrain too.
>>135576212
Stop shitposting, autismo.
>>135576103
Wow you're right, just look at how shitpost free this almost entirely anon general is! >>135459059
"Blue-Eyes White Dragon" + "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" + "Blue-Eyes White Dragon"
When this Fusion Summoned card attacks, at the end of the Damage Step, if this is the only face-up card on your field, you can send 1 "Blue-Eyes" Fusion monster from your Extra Deck to the graveyard, and if you do, this card may attack again. You can only activate this effect of "Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" twice per turn.
When a card or effect is activated that targets a "Blue-Eyes" monster you control, you can banish this card from your graveyard, negate it, and if you do, destroy it.
Dead on fucking arrival
>>135575974
>>135576070
>no contact fusion
>same old materials/summoning condition
And all is good. BEUD but stronger. Now I can upgrade my decks that ran BEUD with this and they'll get a nice boost.
>>135576327
You can tell they designed this effect so you have to own 3 NBEUD for the card to be usable.
The only purpose of this thing is to sell the movie pack. Congrats Konami, next time how about making cards people WANT to buy instead of trash like this.
Hope Dark Side of Dimension flops
>>135576427
>Name isn't treated as Blue Eyes Ultimate
It's shit
>>135576278
>second for ME
>you are not ME
Wow no wonder someone wants DNG to be like this.
>>135576327
I wanted to make this card work but I can't, even in a fun deck.
>>135576327
Reminder that this card is still a thing.Who am I kidding, you can't redeem this card, it's shit.
>>135576561
It's a shame you can't summon Shining with her. But it's not that big of a deal.
>>135576740
IT IS A BIG DEAL
As a Gravekeeper's player - I actually wouldn't mind Excition Knight coming back because I have card of demise now
>>135576787
Shining is still worse than NBEUD.
>>135576278
>cherry picking
>accidentally picking the general known for its tripfag problem
I counted at least 4 or 5 tripfags. What are you on about?
>>135576787
NBEUD would still generally be able to do much more work and deal far more damage than Shining. And if Shining's possibly higher ATK boost is somehow necessary to punch over something, you still have the choice to summon vanilla BEUD instead since they share the same summoning requirements. And you're good.
>>135575974
what is up with almost every other word in the effect being annotated?
>tfw winning as lightsworn against a stall deck
Granted their deck was beyond shit (they had block attack. Block attack. That spell that puts a monster in defense mode and is NOT quickcast. Block attack) but it still felt satisfying.
I even made a play when my deck was getting thin by using summoner to get raiden to get micheal and then destroying it with JD to get back half my deck and some thousands of lifepoints. I don't generally play complicated decks (hence lightsworn) so I kinda impressed myself. Now back to being a scrub
>>135576936
>4 or 5 is a lot of trips
What are YOU on about?
>must be fusion summoned for the effect to go off
>you go -3 to summon it at the very least, and if you dragon's meme, you lose 3 key pieces that you can't recycle
>MUST BE THE ONLY FUCKING FACE-UP CARD YOU CONTROL
>not treated as BEUD so it can't even summon shining
>needs more blue-eyes fusion monster clogging up your extra
>MUST BE THE ONLY FUCKING FACE-UP CARD YOU CONTROL
>grants DUDE TARGETING NEGATION LMAO after being sent to the grave when Azure grants full targeting protection at no cost
>has no protection or additional effects when Twin Burst had battle protection and non-destruction removal
>MUST BE THE ONLY FUCKING FACE-UP CARD YOU CONTROL
dude pack filler lmao
>>135576993
4 or 5 too many.
>>135576327
What the fuck were they thinking?
Not only do you have to dump 3 Blue-eyes into this shit but you have to dump 2 extra deck slot into it?
I'd rather run Vanilla Ultimate and just use it to attack for game.
>>135567791
yellow is talking about how konami has shut away these decks and are now contenders for tier 2
Red talks of decks that may shine this format
green are the anti meta that may rise in tier
the pink are the upcoming decks that may do something to the meta
with the rest piled off in the corner considered petdecks
>>135577308
Kaiba is gonna overskill yugi with this cards effect in the movie, I can feel it.
>>135577131
It's so great that they gave Blue-Eyes a field spell to use with it.
>>135577398
>implying Kaiba isn't going to die to Dark Paladin.
Nigga deserves it for dumping dragons into his grave like that.
>>135577371
just realised I posted sawatari baiting, I kinda just felt like not posting exciton knight 3 times
>>135576482
>Hope Dark Side of Dimension flops
Ha. In your dreams kid.
>>135576940
Vanilla BEUD is literally better
Hey /dng/, I haven't played in a year. Should I get back into the game or is it still shitty?
>>135577520
Dark Paladin retrain soon.
>>135577694
Still shitty don't bother
>>135577694
Its cheaper than ever and the meta is about to turn into pet deck central. You decide.
>>135577694
if you like BEWD and DM sure, they arent shit anymore
OCG JUST nuked their meta so cancer tier 0 is gone and new formats will begin soon
>>135577694
I don't know but Neo New Blue-Eyes is literally so bad it makes me want to quit the game again
and I don't even play fusions in my Blue-Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmMhzaF7puM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmMhzaF7puM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmMhzaF7puM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmMhzaF7puM
>>135577794
I still have my Geargia deck from when they were tier 1.
>>135577792
In what way?
>>135577795
>>135577809
So bad as in they're broken?
Are they as bad as Dragon Rulers were?
>>135577809
this post implies to the newfag you're talking about BEWD in general and not only ultimate, shut the fuck up for a bit
>>135577694
we have stuff now, neat stuff. and cheap too
secondary market is comitting suicide from the reprints
>>135577981
he's only talking about BEUD retrain, the rest of BEWD+felgrand stuff is good
>>135576210
Just a heads up, Konami wasn't lying with that picture, the translator was just retarded. The actual translation is
>With this card, the preparation for the summon of Blue Eyes White Dragon is complete
>このカードがあれば「青眼の白龍」を召喚する準備完了だ!!
Meaning she was supposed to be a set-up card, which she is. I was actually gonna be bring it up when the translation first came, but got too lazy.
>>135578071
you just killed an entire meme
>>135576327
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say what they're expecting is to mill other copies of NBEUD for the protection effect and that you've got Azure for protection from other shit. Here's assuming it's the first/second turn: Get 3 Blue eyes. Make this monstrosity off a poly. Pray that there aren't any STDs and swing unprotected three times. Main phase 2, use normal summon and get out shit like Maiden, summon another Blue-Eyes, synchro into BESP. Then be protected from a whole lot of bullshit between NBEUD. BESP, and Azure-Eyes.
Why was the other thread deleted?
>>135576327
FUCK
ITS EVEN WORSE
>>135576739
This card was only good when we thought that NBEUD's eff dumped the other two on summon, not as it fucking attacks. Its complete shit now, along with NBEUD itself.
>>135577371
>qliphorts
Fuck I forgot they have scout at 2 and fucking Towers at 3, even without wavering eyes they can definitely contend with the new meta.
>wisdom-eye
Is this some sort of joke? Pend call to 1 greatly reduces their consistency.
>raidraptors
What's the point if you can't special summon any of your xyz?
>>135578259
It was deleted because it was made by a tripfag. You retards should kill yourself.
>>135576327
>takes the same costs as vanilla Ultimate
>not a contact fusion
>has to be the only card on your field
>have run 2 more copies of this or Twin Burst or Ultimate in order to get the extra attack
>TARGETING PROTECTION EXCLUSIVE TO A SINGLE BLUE-EYES and not to a group like Azure-eyes
I DARE ANY MOTHERFUCKER TO TELL ME THIS CARD IS GOOD.
THIS IS THE SHITTIEST FUSION DRAGON I'VE EVER SEEN THAT'S NOT A VANILLA.
FUCK, EVEN VANILLA ULTIMATE IS BETTER THAN THIS PIECE OF SHIT SINCE IT'S JUST A ONE OFF AND DOES THE SAME SHIT ANYWAYS AND GAINS BENEFITS FROM BEING A NON EFFECT MONSTER.
EVEN FUCKING PRIESTESS IS LESS USELESS THAN THIS CARD. EVEN MOTHERFUCKING BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER SUPER SOLDIER OF BRICKING INCONSISTENCY AND RESOURCE WASTING IS A BETTER RETRAIN THAN THIS IS TO ULTIMATE DRAGON.
>I run Synchros and Fusions in my deck
>>135578352
Which one? Does the janny really hate the trips on /dng/ enough to delete a thread like that (and how many posts early was it too)?
>>135577131
>you go -3 to summon it at the very least, and if you dragon's meme, you lose 3 key pieces that you can't recycle
With Factory and Trade-In and things that isn't even necessarily the case. And with Dragon's Mirror you may very well want to dump them to the graveyard either way.
And if you want to summon this thing with Polymerization you'll want to run Swamp King and Swamp King can substitute for a BEWD with or without Dragon's Mirror. Lessening the drawback of banishing the materials.
>needs more blue-eyes fusion monster clogging up your extra
If you're running Polymerization and Swamp King you'll have more copies in your extra anyway.
>MUST BE THE ONLY FUCKING FACE-UP CARD YOU CONTROL
That is a hassle, but if they have no card that can stop it, then it'll no doubt end it. Three attacks with 4500 ATK is no joke.
>has no protection or additional effects when Twin Burst had battle protection and non-destruction removal
For what it's worth it creates protection by dumping copies of itself to the graveyard, which not only strengthens the graveyard setup for further plays but protects them as well.
>not treated as BEUD so it can't even summon shining
A shame, but most of the time NBEUD is bound to be better. And if not, you always have the choice of summoning regular BEUD.
>>135578395
Its good because it can be a sacky card. Topdeck a fusion card and if your opponent has no backrow they get fucked. You guys are failing to see that this card just dies to amy form of removal just like Irritum can. Im not saying to use this over Irritum, but this can also be an option if your duel grinds out. Irritum is useless against Monarchs and Kozmos. Thats where this card would do better, especially since Dark Destroyer fucking targets
>destroys all cards on the field
>but for some reason needs an effect to negate battle traps/spells which is obviously meant to negate Action Spells because they'd be the only spells that could possibly remain on the field after a wipe
>can't be revived by big guy because it's a nomi
What were they thinking?
>yfw Neo Ultimate Dragon turned out to be shit after all that hype.
I have never been so pissed off or disappointed in my whole life.
I'm going to go lie down and take a break from Blue-eyes and dragons for a while. I can't bear to look at my deck right now.
>>135578440
>I only have one black card in one of my decks
y-yeah
>>135578690
>all that hype.
>I have never been so pissed off or disappointed in my whole life.
>ever actually expecting it to be anything other than a more ferocious BEUD.
>anon in charge of hype
You've only got yourself to blame.
>>135578602
>IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT CAN OTK IN A SITUATION ANY OTHER CARD CAN
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
THIS THING IS SHIT AND THERE'S NO WAY TO DEFEND IT.
>>135578602
You know what else can OTK in a very specific situation. 3 Blue-Eyes White Dragons.
>>135578602
>Its good because it can be a sacky card
Is that your excuse? In that case Beacon of white is good.
Konami shills make me sick to think that anybody can defend a card that makes even Black Luster Soldier look good.
>>135578903
>3 Blue-Eyes White Dragons.
And instead of summoning 3 fucking BEWDs. You fusion summon a NBEUD instead.
You'll spend less cards, and your attacks will count for more.
Guys we're forgetting that NBEUD isn't even Kaiba's real boss monster. It's going to be theObelisk retrain
How many dark destroyers do I run?
>>135579016
>4 cards is less than 3 cards
>>135579016
>And instead of summoning 3 fucking BEWDs. You fusion summon a NBEUD instead.
No, you stupid fuck, instead of summoning NBEUD, you should summon Dark Matter and go for the Irritum play
These new Odd-Eyes cards are pretty damn cool
>>135579058
Three
>>135579180
I don't think kaiba is going to have either of those cards.
>>135579024
>Obelisk killed Blue-eyes White Dragon and Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon.
>it's replaced Blue-eyes as Kaiba's ace.
I accept this as canon. Neo Ultimate is makes me gag to think that such a card exists.
Waste of resources from not only the main deck and extra deck.
Obelisk deserves everything he gets.
hey guys this card is totally good because you can open it with 1 book of taiyou and 3 book of eclipses to mill 25 cards of your opponent's deck and force him to draw 3 so he ends up with only 6 cards in his deck
You guys don't even play Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon.
So why make a big deal over Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon?
>Yosenju doesn't really use pendulums
>But I'll be so fucking mad if the Daibak retrain doesn't revolutionize the entire deck while make pendulums the focus of the deck!
>>135579058
this card is immune to effect, magic and trap cards from the opponent? what the fuck?
>its bad because it has no protection
What is this guys protection again? He needs pretty much the same investment to get onto the field as Neo Ultimate
>>135579180
>No, you stupid fuck, instead of summoning NBEUD, you should summon Dark Matter and go for the Irritum play
If you have two level 8 monsters on the field. That said, it's not as if you would summon Ultimate on the first damn turn either way.
>>135579412
We'd play Neo Ultimate if it was good.
Neo Ultimate is shit and blew its chance for the one of most iconic cards to finally be usable.
>>135579412
I wanted the option of having a fusion build for Blue-Eyes to have some worth to it.
NBEUD has retroactively made all the new BEWD support look like shit to me.
I'm gonna go play another deck now.
>成金チキンテラフォとかいうデッキを31枚にするカード
> さらに疑似空間と練獄で25枚だな!
Watch out guys, the overlords are gonna start using 25 card decks.
>>135579514
Are you a fucking retard?
He's a floodgate to the extra deck and doesn't take 3 damn Blue-eyes and a poly/fusion cards to get on the field.
He only takes being milled with Arkbrave
>>135579102
>>4 cards is less than 3 cards
>implying you won't have to spend cards to summon them onto the field
>>135579597
Well now I know another country that's definitely not gonna win worlds this year ;)
NEBUD might still be worth it if there are some good BEWD support cards in the movie pack, Kaiba deck, and Pharaoh's Memory pack
WHAT
WERE
THEY
THINKING
>>135580096
How could such a waste of a card possibly be worth running? What sort of support would it take for this garbage to be playable?
>>135580096
This was supposed to be the finisher for all the BEWD support they've been releasing. it's shit now and forever
>>135580278
Not that guy but if they get something that disables backrow. Then it will win games by itself for sure.
To the faggot who's retarded enough to compare the shit of Neo Ultimate to the Dark Matter Irritium lock, Here's the card advantage set up
>Neo Ultimate
3 Blue-eyes and a poly
Total loss of card advantage = 4 cards
Board Neo Ultimate and 1 card in the hand
>Dark matter and Irritium
Melody dump a level 8 dragon and search BEWD and BEAWD
Summon BEAWD and Gospel back the level 8 dragon you dumped
make dark matter and mill Kidmodo, Arkbrave and Irritium
Kidmodo summons the BEWD in your hand
Summon Sage and search Effect Veiler
Synchro summon Blue-eyes Spirit Dragon
End turn
Next turn Arkbrave ressurects Irritium and you chain Spirit Dragon's effect to it and summon Azure-eyes
Total loss of card advantage = 3
Board Azure-eyes, Dark Matter and Irritium under protection with Effect Veiler and another card in hand and Gospel in the grave
Which sound like the play to win more games?
>>135580096
Give it up. They would have given us more Blue-eyes in the movie pack in this issue of V-jump. What's the point of giving us info so late down the line?
Even then, they would have to be fusion monsters because NBUED eats that shit up.
If they aren't they're better off used for synchro and xyz plays anyways than being towards one of the worst retrains in Yugioh history
>>135580342
Do not reply to him.
>>135580347
And how many unsearchable cards is that?
>>135580342
>but if they get something that disables backrow.
I sure hope it isn't a continuous card then!
Or a quickplay to powercreep Trap Stun
oh
oh
wait
they did do that didn't they?
Look at the bright side.
Kisara gets a new card to cosplay as.
>>135575720
>fucking bias, you don't see the other generals get deleted if they make a thread early.
The jany was actually quite pacient with /dng/, but then you were the only retards who started making threads earlier and earlier every time to the point that you were jumping on new threads around 704 posts. Not to mention the thread spam every fucking time.
>Alright, time for yugioh!
>up against kozmo twice in a row, they just constantly swap out their monsters and destroy mine for free. I can't do anything about it
>next I fight an exodia deck (which of course is 50% stall)
>then a psy-frame deck, which says "I negate your attack, destroy your monster, summon two monsters, and end the battlephase all at the same time" every single turn
>then I went up against a pure stall deck
>then another psy-frame
I'm okay with losing, I'm not the best, but at least let me play my deck, god-damn. And everybody has a playset of solemn strike and chicken game it's like stalling is the new meta
>>135580492
2, as in the cards that do the searching are typically unsearchable.
>>135580347
>They would have given us more Blue-eyes in the movie pack in this issue of V-jump.
I don't know. Konami has been extremely tight lipped about the movie's contents. There's so much we still don't know. The movie pack still has 33 cards in it we have no idea about. Maybe this is the last big BE monster or maybe it's not. All I know is Konami probably still has a shit ton of surprises up their sleeves. Wouldn't be surprised if there's another BE monster after this one.
>>135580492
2. The cards doing the searching and the reborn spells.
Blue-eyes runs a shitload of mill and draw power so consistency will never be an issue.
>>135578464
it had like 8 posts and was deleted
you cant see the OP because of the filters
What are you goyim mad about?
We said that it would end the game in one turn didn't we? We just didn't mention that you need some space in your extra deck to sacrifice some Blue-eyes fusion monsters and that it has no protection aside from itself in the graveyard..... We did this so you can buy more of the movie pack! Just 699 yen a pack and 9 cards out of the 45 set come in each.
Remember, you need 3 NBUED for it to be playable!
Listen to that anon, the Dark Matter Irritium lock doesn't always mean you'll win, it's still very inconsistent.
>>135578690
when will you people learn, is this some kind of age with experience deal?
learn to never hype ANYTHING
>>135579058
23 because thats how many you'll get from 1 box of PGL3
>>135580492
>what is bait
>what is obvious consistency
>what is duplicate bait from last thread
>what is being a shitter
>>135581371
dont forget Yugi still fucking wins anyway so you'll end up buying MORE DM
Give it to me strait doc... Just how bad is it?
So this is no longer the worst retrained legacy card right?
I don't even want to imagine the rest of the movie pack.
The magician girls are trash, Neo Ultimate is trash. Houkais are doomed to be Malefics 2.0.
I just lost all hype for the movie.
>>135581774
cut the night howling, replace MST with twin twister
take out book, its garbage
IDK why you're running TCG, just do OCG with 2 allure and a feather duster.
Raigeki is ass in this meta
>>135581918
No, Super Soldier is still the worst.
>using the Irritum lock against a player without an extra deck
>>135581758
>B-BAIT! ;)
lol you Blue-Eyes faggots really are delusional
>>135582048
Is they don't use an extra deck, you don't do the lock.
You make the Dark Matter, Azure-eyes, Hope Titanic board instead.
>>135582093
How much does Konami pay you to defend them releasing trash cards by saying that they're good?
>>135581918
>/dng/ is always wrong
DMG set has janky combo potential and secondly Houkai arent even revealed yet, chill
>>135582093
>more duplicate bait
>>135580347
>3 Blue-eyes and a poly
>Total loss of card advantage = 4 cards
>Board Neo Ultimate and 1 card in the hand
Or you Melody Dump a White Stone of Legend and search for BEWD and BEAWD.
Search another Stone of Legend with Sage.
Drop it with Consonance.
Grab a Poly with a King.
Fusion summon.
Play Fusion Recovery.
Play Dark Factory of Mass Production.
Total loss of card advantage = 0 cards.
It's like you think you have to minus just to summon it. Or rather you know you don't have to but you want to mock it anyway so you speak of it as if that's the case.
>>135582237
Where do you see a combo with them?
They all require the opponent to attack or target them.
Houkais were confirmed to level up like Silents and Fortune Ladies.
They're automatically trash.
>>135582314
Im gona imply a shitload right here so dont get your jimmies rustled
so basically run a not meta version of the builds that have been topping and replace all the cards with a fusion focus to make it pet deck tier
>>135582314
And what's you board? A crappy fusion monster with no protection and your hand is a bunch of vanillas and Alternative dragons.
What a genius play. Castel will love to spin your board and then have his buddies and himself hit you for 8K.
>>135581971
thanks
I play imaginary format because it's easiest to find a game for it.
>>135582486
>People saying targetting protection is shit
>Castel targets
>Neo Ultimate specifically has targetting protection
>>135582486
You can make BESD with the Sage.
And then you have the option of making yet another fusion if you so feel like it.
>>135582351
it was also confirmed they get different effects as they level up
which if thats the case and this is 2016 and they have decent effects and not 2010 where cards are slow and we dont have tann gate, queens light, and other high level mods, they can still be usable
they just need to be consistent
sekrit buster blader tek
>>135582351
>Neo Ultimate is going to go on a rampage against all these girls and they are going to all cockblock the attacks
>>135582741
why not
>>135582619
Neo Ultimate has targeting protection IF he's in the grave.
Congrats, you're dumping another one in the grave in a the first turn.
>>135582626
So a board of Azure-eyes, and two fusion monsters and your opponent has access to the extra deck
Wonderful. Utopia the Lightning will easily win.
>>135582421
>so basically run a not meta version of the builds that have been topping and replace all the cards with a fusion focus to make it pet deck tier
Yes. What else would ever be running Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon? It's fucking Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. Why would Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon be anything but better Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon? What in the world were you people even expecting?
It's an upgrade to this type of deck
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27683010
Not Irritum turbo featuring Rank 8s, Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon, and Felgrand.
Why would you expect Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon to have a place in such a deck?
>>135582741
I feel like I should make a Buster Blader deck again.
>petdeck shitter Blue-eyes think they know how the game works
How about you faggots check back when fusion Blue-eyes tops or actually duel somebody to prove that your cards aren't shit?
>>135578676
>destroys all cards on the field
>but for some reason needs an effect to negate battle traps/spells which is obviously meant to negate Action Spells because they'd be the only spells that could possibly remain on the field after a wipe
heh, i was thinking about this too
shit is dumb
>>135582857
>>135582626
>>135582486
>>135582314
>>135582192
>>135582048
>>135580739
>>135580574
>>135580347
>>135579412
question to all of you
what if I use Tierra to dump 3 Neo ultimate and just run like a BEWD infernoid hybrid?
>>135582857
>So a board of Azure-eyes, and two fusion monsters and your opponent has access to the extra deck
Not really. You would obviously attack with NBEUD alone. And then make BESD and or another Fusion if NBEUD doesn't carry things through.
And then all those cards will have received protection from your NBEUD too.
>>135582960
So that's it?
A fucking petdeck card for a shitty solitaire deck.
Why is this relevant again
>>135583121
Marzepan fuck off with your stupid petdeck.
Enjoy Reasoning being put to 1 when Tewart imports the OCG list.
>>135583226
>Why is this relevant again
I have no fucking idea why you were trying to hype up Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon as anything more than a dragon that hits really hard.
>people seriously think a contact fusion only monster that could tribute itself to summon 3 BEWDs from the graveyard would have somehow been better
What a fucking joke. That would have been even more terrible and seen even less play.
Contact fusion with 3 fucking BEWDs? That can't even do shit if the materials are banished.
>>135583226
>everyone who likes infernoids is marzepan
we both know that asshole doesnt turn off his trip
>>135583036
>expecting a card that hasnt been released to top
>>135583491
>implying it NBEUD will see play
>>135583543
Remind me why the overlords have any reason to run NBEUD when the Dark Matter Irrituim lock and other floodgates are so much better than the shitty fusion solitaire?
>>135583647
Because something from the Dark Matter lock is guaranteed to get hit if you fags really are sure its consistent enough to cause turn 2 scoops.
>>135583647
>>implying it NBEUD will see play
How the fuck did you get that out of what I was saying?
All I was really implying was that all the other shit people were theorizing about was even worse and that NBEUD no matter its design would have been unlikely to see play.
>>135583226
>everyone who looks like noids is marzepan
or maybe you just dislike noids
>>135583896
>Because something from the Dark Matter lock is guaranteed to get hit if you fags really are sure its consistent enough to cause turn 2 scoops.
>implying Konami doesn't know what's happening.
OCG is pushing dragons hence why rejuv went to 2 and Dragon shrine to 3.
The moment the Dark Matter lock dies is when Blue-eyes dies. That shitty solitaire fusion deck will never be meta. It dies to disruption and bricks worse than Dark Matter lock does
>>135583983
>NBUED being a TOWERS is worse than what it actually is
>NBUED being a TOWERS would never let it see play
You them (You)s boy? I'll gi em to ya
>>135584262
vorcia no dont feed it
>>135584091
It would brick less than Dark Matter because you have more resources to run the Synchros for protection. Its alot easier summoning a tuner and 1 level 8 than two level 8s. They want Blue-Eyes to compete with Dark Magician. Irritum prevents that. Either Dark Matter gets hit or Irritum will. Maybe even Arkbrave since its the only reason the lock is guaranteed to go through. Blue-Eyes doesn't need Dark Matter to be meta, it only needs it to say "fuck you." Spirit Dragon can float into several forms of support to respond to whatever the hell you have to deal with
>>135584262
Who the fuck thought it was going to be a Towers?
The most common thing people were talking about was a Kozmo-esque floater. And that idea was shit. Especially if only summonable through contact fusion.
>>135584442
>Blue-Eyes doesn't need Dark Matter to be meta, it only needs it to say "fuck you."
It probably needs it to be tier 1.
>>135584658
Not all tier 1 decks need to make a fucking lock. They just need an unbreakable board or one that can constantly recover quicker than it takes for the opponent get rid of.
>>135584776
>They just need an unbreakable board or one that can constantly recover quicker than it takes for the opponent get rid of.
Blue-Eyes excel at neither of this.
Is a 2:1 win ratio good?
>>135585169
Not really. It's alright but it's hard to say it's great. You'd need about 80% win ratio or better for that.
>>135584776
>Not all tier 1 decks need to make a fucking lock.
Right Qlis didn't run like 20 floodgates, Shaddolls didn't have Winda and Construct, Nekroz didn't have djinn and Unicore, PePe didn't make the most cancer causing boards in Yugioh history and Monarchs didn't cause salt with March, Erebus, Domain boards
>>135584564
Check the archives, it was either Towers or floating. It;s still better than the pile of garbage it turned out to be.
>>135584442
>They want Blue-Eyes to compete with Dark Magician. Irritum prevents that.
Right, Irritium doesn't help Blue-eyes win by locking DM out of the R7 toolbox.
Oh wait, DM is totally going to be meta with those support cards right and definitely not a petdeck right?
Damn I'm getting cancer here.
>Blue-Eyes doesn't need Dark Matter to be meta, it only needs it to say "fuck you." Spirit Dragon can float into several forms of support to respond to whatever the hell you have to deal with
Do you know how stupid you sound?
Spirit floats into Azure and Moonlight but targeting is trash and Azure-eyes is easy to punch over for any deck that's not Kozmemes.
You're an idiot if you think Blue-eyes can still compete without the floodgates. It'll drop to tier 3.
>>135585169
No it isn't
>>135585169
Not really. That's a 66% win rate.
>>135579058
>cannot be targeted by card effects
>have to just be either manually jumped over or slap the special summon with a trap or you're fucked
Fuck. Fucking shit sucks.
its a shit early game card
A very good late game card
There
Was that so hard
There is no point in trying to argue over anything. You faggots literally said the new support for BEWD was shit and we all saw how that is turning out to be. I would post the screencap of you retards saying the Elemental Dragons were shit but I lost my hardrive last year.
Alright this should be enough.
Let's give it 6 weeks. If NBEUD is used by the overlords, /dng/ was wrong, if NBEUED is not used by the overlords, /dng/ was right.
Take your bets.
I still enjoy Blue-eyes though. NBEUD is underwhelming and could be a lot better.
>>135580574
I've gotten my first taste of Kozmo today. I don't like it. At all. Banishing and going off during the battle phase all god damn willy nilly? Having boss monsters be unable to be targeted by card effects? A field spell card that immediately replaces itself once it gets destroyed? Having the weaker cards with the ability to chain their effects so they can tag out as soon as they hit the field? Fucking shit sucks.
>>135585374
>or floating
Contact Fusion into a floater.
In what world would that have been better than what we got?
>>135585791
Betting on /dng/ being wrong
>>135585791
yo do you have screencaps for the beginning of DUEA format?
>>135585640
>ygo
>lategame
L O L
O
L
Here's something to take our minds off of NBEUD
Duel links just sent out its first trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=MQ7JSv5j0ks
Seriously, why is every /dng/ so fucking retarded? They get every single prediction about the game wrong and thought Dragon Rulers were gonna be bad. Now I have to wait for them to get another prediction wrong.
And it's not even the first time they got a prediction wrong. Jesus.
>>135578259
>they can definitely contend with the new meta.
No they fucking can't lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ7JSv5j0ks
Is they're are viable deck build around obelisk the tormenter
>>135576327
read the card then read it in the way if it was in a movie where yugi, the hero was able to take it down.
>>135586574
I still don't really understand Duel Links.
So it's like, a cheap imitation of the actual game that is incredibly simplified and doesn't even feature the actual rules or even effects of the actual game?
And people are meant to want to spend money on it?
What's the draw here? What's the selling point?
Why Duel Links over any other YGO game?
>>135586730
>it's meant to be the final boss which the hero takes down in the most convoluted way possible
No wonder it ended up being so terrible. I forgot that the people behind Dark Side of Dimensions are the same people behind Zexal and we know how those boss monsters ended up.
>>135585374
What lock did Rulers make?
>>135586780
muh nostalgia
>>135586887
Laugh if you want, but this. It was a big deal back then.
If Blue-eyes loses Irrituim, is it still meta or does it go full petdeck?
>>135587062
I will never laugh at Dracossack.
You guys are forgetting we still don't have a fusion spell for the movie. I really doubt we're going to get plain old Polymerization again for both Kaiba and Yugi.
>>135587224
If anything should get hit it's Arkbrave.
>>135586850
so by that effect lets say kaiba attack, a magician girl and then summons more, to delay kaibas attacks, kaiba dumps, next turn yugi uses thousand knives to destroy neo, kaiba uses effect to stop it, yugi does wombo heart of the cards to take it down. speculation yes, but scar right was made just to stomp pendulums. im not hunting down blue eyes stuff till the movie pack and structure comes out, support spread too thin
>>135587376
>I really doubt we're going to get plain old Polymerization again for both Kaiba and Yugi.
Polymerization is the literal "fusion" card. And the one classic nostalgia fusion card.
The nostalgia pandering misses entirely if they make a new fusion card to substitute for it. Nostalgia faggots wants to use Polymerization, so at best they'll make Polymerization support. Meaning, if you're lucky you'll get a King of the Swamp retrain.
we still have the structure
Have hope guys.
>>135587224
>if the deck loses it's main floodgate, is it still meta.
Ask Monarchs without Domain. They're are petdeck now since they can't lock you down.
That said if Blue-eyes loses Irritium I have no doubt in my mind that it drops to tier 2. Blue-eyes Spirit Dragon is hardly enough to contain pendulums and the fusion support is all shit, there's barely any synchro support and they share xyz with Galaxy-eyes and that's losing steam nowadays.
>>135587381
This but Konami never goes after generic support, only the problem cards and Arkbrave's only other use is Felgrand and BEWD reviving.
>Ultimate rare Dark Law is $60
JUST
>>135587702
I'm sorry I don't follow this closely enough but when did Monarchs lose Domain?
>>135587816
I still can't get over how Emergency Teleport is sixteen motherfucking dollars.
>>135587702
>Ask Monarchs without Domain.
Monarchs without Domain > Blue-Eyes without Irritum.
No doubt about it. The matchup with or without Irritum is favorable for Monarchs. And without Domain every Monarch deck would be running 3x Nt'ss and 3x Omega in the extra which would screw over Blue-Eyes even further.
Monarchs can tribute the opponent's monster on their turn. While gaining advantage from it. That is searchable, non-targeting, non-destruction removal. On the opponent's turn. Blue-Eyes has nothing like it.
>>135586690
Learn to speak to english.
>>135586690
I hear Obelisk has good synergy with Monarchs.
>>135587829
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-v-jump-april-2016-limit-regulation/
>>135587951
If Blue-eyes plays Monarchs they use Felgrand to banish them and add in the OTKs instead of Irritium.
Do you even pay attention to the OCG matchups?
Blue-eyes runs Crimson Blader, Necrovalley and MoR in the Sidedeck stop them.
>>135588283
>OCG
Oh. Thank you for answer. I was concerned something was occurring with the TCG.
>>135588283
>Do you even pay attention to the OCG matchups?
The matchup is not in their favor even with side-decking.
>>135588283
I meant Zombie World, Necrovalley and MoR in the Sidedeck to stop them.
Why am I thinking of Crimson Blader?
![9jRRJbi[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/k3ZksWl.png "9jRRJbi[1].png")
Dicking around in rated is such a stress reliever sometimes.
>>135588454
>The matchup is not in their favor even with side-decking.
Care to prove me wrong yourself?
Match
US
8000LP
>>135587529
Or they could make a specialized Blue-Eyes fusion card that lets you summon NBEUD by ignoring summoning conditions or something that makes it a fuckton easier. It's all going to tie into whatever mechanic the movie explores, probably related to SPIRIT or something else.
>>135588283
>>135588461
I was really happy to see someone else was using Crimson Blader to fuck over Monarchs. Its fun shit watching them set Eidos and passing
>>135588525
No, seriously? What did you do? Why did your opponent type "?" and quit?
>tfw Kaiba will lose again to Yugi because NBEUD sucks
>>135589245
>implying NBEUD is the big bad final boss
>>135589237
I banished pantheism to search, and that's when he quit. I dunno man.
>>135577308
Use summoner of illusions
>>135589452
But pantheism is still in the grave, and that's a phantom knights in the banished zone.
What's a standard Blue-Eyes build look like?
>>135589812
Shit I really don't know. Three Maidens, Red Eyes Dark Metal Dragon, two to three White Stone Legend and I imagine a Keeper of the Shrine.
>>135589182
I love it too.
Blue-eyes techs it pretty easy with Arkbrave after you use it to banish their spells.
It forces them to take the full force of a direct attack or set a monster only to be put in the lock again.
>>135589812
Like this
>>135590068
Do even know how Blue-eyes are played or are just talking out of your ass? Then again, this is /dng/
Nobody runs Maiden or Dr.Red or keeper and they only run White stone at 1 or 0
>>135590204
it was just a harmless prank my dude
>>135590204
Last time I fucked with a Blue Eyes Deck was casually in LOTD. I'm going strictly off of my experience with that. I don't know how to play the deck with the current format. I didn't know it evolved to the point where it's like what you posted. I don't recognize half of those cards. But I thank you for the information.
Who said that Reasoning is bad in Quants?
>>135590204
I was looking for one with Fegrand/Arkbrave/Irritum.
Are Metalphosis gonna be meta if they get a Tenki and a Super Poly?
>>135590554
I remember someone mentioning earlier about Box of Friends in Metalphosis, seems like the japs already tried it.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28445733
this is indeed a cool ass deck
10/10 would masturbate again
Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon in action
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28445542
>>135591547
WHAT HAPPENED TO WAITING TILL THE ACTUAL MOVIE
NOW /DNG/ IS WRONG AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
>>135591003
>only 1 Face-off
???
>>135591821
>nico videos means its good
Fuck off Mariomon retard.
>>135591935
Given how he also only had 1 Luster Pendulum, he probably build it according to the new list
>>135591362
List?
nearly identical list as the one posted earlier
>>135575974
I usually hate premium gold but holy shitvdid the BA mojsters get an upgrade with that rarity. They look fucking amazing.
>>135591547
>cherrypicked replay vs fucking Dark Magician
is this supposed to be impressive
>>135592410
>/dng/ cherrypicked maymay
>>135592517
You're probably the same faggot that post jap results from 6 man locals.
>>135591003
>>135591547
can you guys give me the kanji for odd-eyes?
I wana see what they're doing with Nirvana and the new COOL AS FUCK odd-eyes support
>>135592689
and you must be that faggot that always posts that same cop out without any prior research
>>135592765
Go back to playing your shity non meta blue eyes deck online. Be sure to whine like a bitch when tcg shits all over it because the deck doesn't srop people from playing.
>>135592894
>confusing me for several different anons
>being this asshurt
yea yea sure. ill be sure to let you know how hurt I am over that deck
>NBEUD sucked as expected
>Nirvana Paladin is kinda okay but by the time its TCG side only corpses and other bad decks can use it.
>RDA Tyrant is just disappointing
Is this game gonna die in the wake of insane linear decks making obnoxious unbreakable boards?
>page 9
>>135576327
This is the biggest disappointment yugioh has ever given me.
>>135593793
>Is this game gonna die in the wake of insane linear decks making obnoxious unbreakable boards?
We've been at that point for sometime now and the game didn't die i think we'll be fine. The ability to accuire cards extremely cheap now has helped this game a ton.
What's that one trash archetype that suits you perfectly, /dng/?
>>135583226
You fuck off. I wouldn't touch BEWD with a ten foot pole.Now Kisara on the other hand...
>>135587816
>Got a playset of foil Patrulea for 6 cheeseburgers
BUENO.
>>135593793
No, Konami is just going to kill the linear decks, look at the OCG. Their list was a fucking slaughter.
>>135575974
/dng/. Explain to me why you're not running this guy in your Pendulum decks.
>>135596880
Because no one wants to trade their copy for some fucking reason.
>>135586887
Stardust spark+vanity's
Blader lock
LAD lock
probably more
>>135596727
Noids, I love them more than any other archetype and will probably play them forever. Even long after the banlist/powercreep bend them over and fuck them in the ass.
>>135596880
Yamata is better, I'd rather draw my ass off.
>>135596912
Dude he costs like ONE fucking dollar.
>>135596880
>pendulum
>this card cannot be special summoned
What the fuck is the point?
>>135597117
>Yamata is better, I'd rather draw my ass off.
You'd pick a possible plus over forcing your opponent to top deck?
>>135597145
>What the fuck is the point?
Pendulums give you the tributes to summon the fucker, and if you can protect him, your opponent goes massively minus.
>>135597145
Do you not understand that tributed Pendulums go back to the extra?
>>135597218
You'd run Delinquent Duo over Pot of Greed? I would rather play/set my hand, summon Yamata, and go +4-+5 rather than force a similar (but likely smaller) minus on them. You can argue it's preference but I would always prefer to plus myself rather than minus them.
>>135597218
>You'd pick a possible plus over forcing your opponent to top deck?
You're under the assumption the grave is worthless.
>>135597473
>You'd run Delinquent Duo over Pot of Greed?
They're not comparable. Yamata only plusses you if you've got room for the plusses, which you might not and since you've mentioned it, I would actually struggle to pick one between Pot and Duo.
>>135597553
>You're under the assumption the grave is worthless.
Shit, you've got me.
>>135597553
>>135597583
>Shit, you've got me.
Sorry, sent that post before I thought of my apology.
I've been reviewing old packs as a nostalgia trip and a chance to get an idea what to do with my collection of DM/GX era cards that I've been filing away, hence my mind has been sent back to 2003 and I forgot the relevance of the Grave.
Sorry /dng/ - today I was a scrub.
>>135583514
>tfw there's my trip
>>135597583
>struggle to pick between the card that always advances your gamestate vs. the card that might not even be good until way later into the game
It's like you fags never played during GOAT format. The entire function of Delinquent Duo was to force your opponent into a topdecking situation and even then, you could play around Duo with shit like Sinister Serpent and even straight up next level them with Despair from the Dark or Electric Snake.
Fact is going plus, is always better than simply hindering your opponent. More cards = more chances to win the game, this is basic card gaming 101
>>135597583
Even by that strain, your opponent might just be dumping their hand or only have 1-2 cards anyway. I'd much rather use Yamata because his effect is much more reliable. It's so much easier to dump your hand and generate a huge advantage with him than hope your opponent has a hand worth discarding.
Also yeah, the graveyard thing someone mentioned.
>>135597773
In this format, when the top three decks of Dracopals, Monarch and Kozmo, who rely heavily on certain combo pieces, I think Delinquent Duo might be better to discard fodder out of their hand for Pantheism, or their Ships, or their Dracoslayers.
>>135597117
I'm not buying unless i need to buy something else.
>>135580342
Red Dragon Archfiend Tyrant says hello.
We all no confiscation is extremely powerful because of how yugioh works. Would an errata that say you can't search the turn you use make the card fair?
>>135597906
Except Dracopals can run Instant Fusion and Daigusto Emeral to recover their grave, making a discard pointless most of the time
Monarchs...man fucking LOL why would you bring up Monarchs? Erebus, Pantheism, and Prime all love being in the graveyard, and even shit like sending a Blue Layer from their hand just helps them make E-Tele less shit
And even Kozmo run things like CotH and Oasis to recover ships from the graveyard. I mean it's not like they've already switched up their gameplan ever since Tincan became a thing, thereby making the grave AND the banished zone more valuable resouces.
And this still doesn't take into account for BA's/Phantom Knights, which IMO are still close enough with the other 3 to also be considered a Tier 1 deck (shit they got more tops at Vegas than Monarchs did) and hitting that deck with Duo is just sucking their dicks most of the time. Fact of the matter is if that I was forced to choose between Greed or Duo, I think 90% of the time people would pick Greed
>>135580506
>battle traps
>in the year when yugioh went full out fuck your battle phase giving that effect to a shit ton of monsters.
>>135597661
>today
Man that Synchro Pendulum guy is really good, but I wonder if he's going to end up like Odd-Eyes Rebellion and not really played.
I also want to play Dark Magician Girl now...
Structure Deck R when?
>>135582702
If they don't special summon spam into a lockdown board turn 1 consistently, they'll be TRASH
>>135598360
>I also want to play Dark Magician Girl now...
>Not wanting to play WITH Dark Magician Girl.
>>135598238
Dracopals will not always open Instant Fusion, and Emeral will not get discarded shit back to their hand. They also lack any real Graveyard presence. In addition, discarding lemon key boards or Jokers can cripple them, and with those at 1 they won't get it back for its effects once discarded unless they sack the shit out of it.
>Hit their E-Tele
>Hit their Pantheism-fodder
>Hit their Eidos and not their Edea
>Hit basically fucking anything except Erebus Pantheism and Prime
Jesus. You're an idiot.
And CotH and Oasis are slow as shit, taking a turn to take effect and they can be bombed with TT. Meanwhile making your opponent go -2 is always classic.
>>135598650
Are we going to keep completely glossing over how important the fucking graveyard is in Yugioh nowadays? Holy shit, I bring up valid examples of how most meta decks can play around having their shit discarded and your only rebuttal is "HURR WELL THEN YOU MIGHT NOT HIT THEIR GOOD CARDS"
Here's a tip, Mermails have their very own play that lets them turbo into Moulinglacia, which is basically a Delinquent Duo on a body. It's a fairly consistent play and you can end up with a board of over 8k damage in a single turn. Guess what? They still fucking suck. I mean what are you even arguing for at this point? Are you seriously trying to that Duo is better than a Pot of fucking Greed you dumb bitch?
Kaiju-Greydles are by really the best deck
-Can take control of monsters/bosses that can be targeted by effects
-Monsters that can't be targeted can just get tributed out by a weaker Kaiju
-Kaiser Colloseum locks down special summons
-Kaiju effects with Waterfront out protect against effects, destroys monsters and the like
-Level 5 Tuner with minion monsters being level 3, perfect setups for synchros along with any monsters stolen.
-Renders literally every type of deck moot because of the fact the deck can "destroy" monsters without actually "destroying" them since tributes don't count as a destruction
Why aren't more people running this tier 1 deck?
>>135599569
And before anyone asks, yes I've run the deck both locals and online and have had unparalleled success with it.
Bonus: The deck is relatively cheap
>>135599569
Tell me more anon, I'm building them IRL (I bought Graydles for Chain Beat, and then all the untargetable shit happened. I've still not figured out if I wanna run Slime/Cobra/Dragon/Split yet or worked out the value of Capture Mission or L1T.
>>135599569
Epic.
>>135599569
They lose in game 2 because literally everyone is siding Mask of Restrict
>>135599569
>Kaiser Colloseum locks down special summons
Did you read the card?
>>135599763
Why is it that there's always one or two idiots that take these insane claims at complete face value? Do you really not know he's bullshitting or something?
