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Loli edition

>This Month (March) Events Schedule
http://pastebin.com/T6n3HRYr

>Please, READ THE FAQ before posting! - it will answer most of your questions if you are new or learning

https://granblue-wiki.com/index.php?title=FAQ

>Mega Pastebin - This pastebin has lots of useful things like important guides and other stuff so don't be a shitter and read these before asking something.
http://pastebin.com/yCGKvVAH

>Guild Info
http://pastebin.com/Sc4yKCZf

>Japanese Wiki
http://gbf-wiki.com/

>Anniversary updates
http://granbluefantasy.jp/pages/?p=6933
http://grancypher.com/2016/03/11/2nd-anniversary-mar-10-game-updates/
http://xiei.moe/games/granblue-fantasy/granblue-radiance-3152016-2nd-year-anniversary-update-digest-part-3-new-multibattles-and-you/

>I NEED TO FUCK AN IDOL
http://xiei.moe/games/granblue-fantasy/granblue-radiance-the-5th-cinderella-girls-collaboration-event/
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Reminder to MVP your Omegas
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grande is my waifu
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Simulate what you think it will be like when english releases.
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I want to fuck cagliostro's thighs
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>>135542530
the same questions that get asked now but with autists trying to pull rank.
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>>135542530
how do i get this anira girl?? she seems cute
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>desperately trying to amass a fire pool
>ive gotten a near full SSR pool of wind that ive just tossed on with auto select
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Just leech your mangos!
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>>135542562
>Deleted

That's no fun
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>>135542530
>You may only post in this thread of your ID has six figures or less
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>>135542521
I fucking love this image
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Gao!
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>>135543009
I like the axecopter more
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>>135542892
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I normally wouldn't mention it and probably won't again, but if any granbros are desperate to join a new guild, I do have one available. I do stress new though, but let me know if anyone is interested I guess. It has like no upgrades or anything yet, so understandable if people won't
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>>135543212
>Guilds arent even full
>Wants to make a new one
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>>135543009
Gao!
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Is anyone using Wiseman for fire? Or is everyone playing SS
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>>135543282
Wife
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Cummies
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reposting since I started posting these late into last thread
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>>135543282
Gao on my cock, you sexy little avacado.
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>tfw they'll re-run Side-M thanks to the newly released translations
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>>135543494
They're never going to rerun homo collab because they're not cinderella girls.
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>tfw i'm no longer f2p
But i'm happy.
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>>135543474
Delete this
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For the sake of farming the best weapons for their respective elements, how much does weakness come into affect?

For example if I start wind, will that help make the earth grind faster/easier, then water, then fire?
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>>135543696
Enjoy your baka.
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>>135543264
I'm seeing people talking about needing to make a new one so I threw it out there.
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>>135543934
More like you realize how insane the grind is, and then you stick to wind and brute force your way through everything.

But yes, if you had infinite time the best way would be would be start wind since it has the highest attack rating, go around the weakness circle, then use Wind to start farming light or dark, then use dark/light to farm the opposite. That's some next-level autism though.
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>>135544132
Just people being meming idiots as usual.

The current guilds aren't even full and they're constantly being pruned so there's no need for a new one.
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Brace for disappointment.
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>>135544321
I sincerely wish you good luck. Won't even try to meem you, with how awful it is for it to be a gene.
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>>135544231
Say that again in a week or two, faggot.
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>>135544321
>>135544406
Its a gene
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>>135543426
Hope you don't mind, I did one.
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>>135544231
Righto, no problem if that's the case. The offer will stand in case there's ever an overflow, so you'll know where to find me.
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I'm a Virasexual.
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>>135542416
>>135542416
>>135542416
>>135542416

REMINDER
http://pastebin.com/YBJPJRGU
You can use this to get your English info straight out of the game. It works with more than just scenes now too.
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>>135544406
>>135544321
>>135544451
I'm glad it's over, holy shit.
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>>135544705
キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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>>135544705
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Is it fine to play Superstar without a harp for early to midgame? I know I'll need a harp eventually, but is dagger fine until then?
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Is wind a meme?
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>>135545026
everything else is a meme
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>>135545002
I want to cum in Ranko
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>arrogant weebs on suicide watch

get ready to have your head dunked into the toilet like the old days, nerds
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>>135545157
That's illegal, anon.
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>>135545017
No, and you shouldn't be playing it until you have a good pool anyway
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>>135545254
That's what you believe, faggot. This kind of game is perfect for elitist weebs. I have a several month headstart, I will get to style on these english newfags all I want.
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>>135544705
Omedeto senpai desu
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>>135544180
One of the main goals of the game is for everything to have a good team, how they do that is up to them. Starting wind and going in the weakness circle would be the most optimal way to do that.
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>>135543951
she did nothing wrong.
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>>135545254
Why are you incapable of capitalizing or using a full stop? Do you think you're a fucking 12yo posting on Facebook?
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hey guys how do I download this game
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>>135545794
Send me 50$ and I will mail you the CD rom you need to play
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>>135545794
You go back to facebook and ask your buddies there.
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um, how do I activate english?
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>>135545363
nobody is impressed geek
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>>135545736
>this nerd boy tryna talk to me

don't you have a locker to get stuffed into or something
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>>135546141
>>135546106
Say that ingame fucker, not in this thread. See what happens.
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>>135546072
You will not bait me
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>>135546072
The English Bonus Pack was only available to those who participated in the Kickstarter to fund the game as one of the stretch goals.
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>hit rank 101 yesterday
>already forced to rely 100% on tweedeck because HL raids I don't need keep cucking my list
This is cancer.
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E N G L I S H
N
G
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S O O N
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>>135545736
>not being OG generation netge nerds that typed as fast as possible without any care for quality because you only have a couple seconds to spam out some text in games because voice chat doesn't exist unless you have a second phone line and feel like sitting with a giant phone beside your ear and only want to talk to one person or maybe more people if you have conference call and your buddies all have two phone lines as well
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>>135544180
Different guy, was hoping to get some advice. I'm going to start wind as well, considering winds poor late game, should I reroll/ticket something other than Birdman/Petra? With Anat, Carbuncle, and the 20 pulls I'll be buying I was thinking that's enough, then I could reroll/ticket the 2 best light characters perhaps? That way my wind team will still be pretty strong but I'm planning ahead for the end game as well.
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How much will you be able to brag in a week, /gbfg/?
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>>135546448
I'm old enough that I was raging about type killers in quake. Stop pretending to be an oldfag and learn how the English fucking language works.
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>>135546636
I'm in a seeded guild so I can't brag much.
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Will they really translate all the chapters?
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Is there a way in-game to check exactly what day you started your account? For purposes of checking what is available by start dash or at least when it would happen.
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>>135546761
I hope they do.
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>>135546636
lmao youre weak as fuck
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>>135546636
Is this who I think it is?
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>>135546664
>not typing fast enough to call someone a nerd when they came around a corner with a rocket launcher, then wrecking them with your nailgun anyways because you're on mother-fucking-cable-internet in 1996 and they have 380 ping

just git gud
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>>135542787
; ;
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Hey guys, how do I download this game in english
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Should I limit break magna weapons evenly across my pool or focus on one at a time?
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BIG
FAT
CAKE
TATS
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>>135547583
One at a time.
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Does anyone have a list of mats needed for class weapon element change?
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>>135546664
Playing Quake online in the mid-late 90s was fucking good. Ignoring the fact that I was 8-9 and had no real strategy, my gunskill in FPS was and still is great.
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>>135547690
Thanks anon
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How long did you guys kept grinding one element's magna before moving on to the next element?
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>>135547794
my favorite was dm_intro but i have bad taste and i don't even remember why

possibly it was my favorite because so many servers were set to run it and thus it was the current map on half the shit you joined using quakespy
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>>135548015
i threw a good month and a half of progress out the window when i started as fire and realized it was shit
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>>135547369
>having cable internet in 1996
What the fuck? Who was even rich enough to have Cable internet in 1996?

>>135547794
It was a simpler time. Yet for all their complexity modern run and gun shooters lost a lot of depth when they transitioned from the arena style shooters to the CoD style realistic shooter. A lot of the skill and strategy required to be good was shaved away when it became a "who can shoot first wins" mentality. Or just dying to random frags thrown on CD.
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>>135546502
Anyone?
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>>135548015
Grind X element until you can kill its elemental advantage solo, rinse repeat.
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>>135548015
The way it was explained to me is you keep with an element until you can clear fights even at elemental disadvantage.
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What kind of questions can we expect soon?
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a reminder to mvp YOUR omegas
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>>135548146
You take that back.
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>>135548726
It's magnas, you dunce.
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>>135548629
hey guys, how can I download this game
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>>135547038
underrated
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>>135548813
Duece*
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>>135548629
eng?
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>omegas
This meme isn't going to die, is it?
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>>135548813
>he doesn't know
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>>135548610
Mind being more specific?
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>>135549090
This is the other problem with translations when the fail to keep things the same for no reason, it becomes an all out shitposting festival.
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Anyone in /gbfg/ want to join me for a High level Omega Luminiera battle?
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>>135549090
Shut up, Cagposter.
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>>135548396
>>135548610
I see. I was under the understanding that I should keep running it until I MLB its summon and have my grid filled up with its optimal weapon (all MLBd of course)
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>>135549090
>the words changed and my autism cant handle it
keep crying bitch. omega fits better anyways
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>>135549231
>implying anyone in /gbfg/ is high levl enough for a High lvl Luminiera Omega raid
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>135549231
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>>135549215
He means that until you could kill Yggdrasil with a Water team you keep grinding Levi. Or until you could kill Colossus with a Wind team you keep grinding Tiamat
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>>135549340
you misspelled levl idiot
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what is a magna anyway?
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>>135549327
Please. Just... just go back to Plebbit or wherever the fuck you came from. Everything about your posting style and opinions would fit right in there.
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>>135548240
I was half joking when I typed that, I was on dialup until 98 or 99 I think; however, the father of one of my friend's worked for the cable company and they had cable at their house in 1996. I played Quake/Quake II on his computer a bunch.

>Or just dying to random frags thrown on CD.
One of my fondest/worst memories of early was playing Q2 on said friend's cable connection and running circles around people with the grenade launcher. It was really bad to be on cable back then, in terms of fair play. Bullets actually landed where you aimed instead of the usual "aim 10 feet in front of him if he's moving fast", and people seemed to have significantly more trouble hitting you for whatever network reason.

>>135546502
Wind is strong for all of the game's content pre-100 content, but when you hit rank 101 then you will have trouble bringing wind into certain HL maps. If you actually play for that long (this will probably be 2-3 months minimum, or way more if you don't super grind / coop grind it), then perhaps you can consider ticketing the light characters you want.

Light is both a good and bad choice for a new player. The characters are strong, and there's no weakness, but you will have to deal with 1/3rd the drop rate of every main element in order to progress.
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>>135549541
t. a redditor
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>>135549678
Are you the retard who gets mad at Eureka and idols?

You sound like him.
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>>135549575
So I should still start the game with Birdman/Petra then ticket light later down the line?
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>>135549764
How could anyone get mad at Eureka?
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>>135549857
Well, that guy does.

And he pretends to be me.
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>>135549891
no one even knows who you are though
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>>135549090
omegnas problem solved
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>>135549978
Of course they do, I am the mememan.
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Indecision is a powerful force in preventing me from ticketing anything.

If I had Lennah, I'd never have to gacha another wind character again. With that and Nio I'd have a complete team. And I like Mamiko Noto, but on the other hand I don't particularly care much for Lennah enough to spend money on her. It would be mostly a "gameplay" purchase.

Instead, I could ticket Ferri, who I wanted to get since she came out (since her story chapter really.) But I would have no one to go along with her. It would be purely a "character" purchase, although I do like a lot of other characters in Light if the gacha ever gave me any.

So even if I wanted to buy something I can't choose what I should do. Same issue with upgrading my wind pool with magna shop vs. buying light weapons, which I'm holding off on until this ticket passes.
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So I'm about to spend my 3 ZP that I have been hoarding on my Dark Fencer and am about to spend them on all on Attack Up. Do all 3 upgrades cost 20 green jewels each or do they go up with each upgrade? I don't think any of the guides say anything about it
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>>135550535
Thanks for letting us know
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How long did it take you to mvp your magnas? I'm 2 months in and don't even come close to these nips on chev.
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>>135550780
39 days
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>>135550780
Reroll and become the 1 month anon
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>>135550535
Nice blog.
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>>135550619
ZP cost goes up. Every Zenith ability shares the cost as you buy more abilities.
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>>135550780
Ive mvp yggdrasil but i didnt solo it. feena is pretty cool.
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>>135550535
Just get Yoda. Yoda is never a bad purchase.
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>>135550780
60 days of playing 'properly'.

20 months of playing occasional events without having a clue about what I'm doing
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>>135550780
I can cheese Tia on my two week account during AT if Moby Dick doesn't join and Ygg is easy mode.
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Remember to show your old man some love
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We must integrate the newfags in our memes, friends. We must not be overwhelmed.
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>>135550619
You don't spend green jewels when you're using EMP.
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>>135551214
>Our
You mean your memes?
The shitty ones you keep forcing over and over and over even though people tell you to fuck off and kill yourself every time?
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>>135551070
What is this? A future for ants?
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>>135551214
Cunnyliostro for everbody!
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>>135550780
I can mvp if some super slut doesn't join, but I can't solo them yet.
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>>135551594
Amazing
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>>135550780
How long has it been since Slayers? I can MVP levi during AT, and Colo pretty much whenever I want at this point.
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>>135551673
what if some assassin joins
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>>135549778
That's a pretty good start, and a wind grid will fill out much faster than light.
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How hard are guild wars qualifier?
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>>135551915
About as hard as your dick gets when you masturbate to your favorite gbf character.
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>>135552052
Soo non existent?
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>>135552052
What if you don't have a dick?
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>>135550710
>>135550992

Interesting difference in the response to a post like that vs. a square of characters with "hey guys what should I ticket?" Seen this happen before too.
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>>135551748
Don't think I have seen many of them running around, it's usually SS just melting the magnas
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>>135552189
Cutting it off doesn't count, tranny.
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>>135552146
>>135552189
If you don't have a dick your beta orbiters will carry you through the process so it's extremely easy.
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>>135550780
Started around the Seiryu celestial event
I can mvp every magna I host but Celeste and Chev, but I can't finish Levi alone despite maining dirt, and Colossus cus I'm too weak to kill before he one shots everyone.
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>>135551915
It's just like any gbf points event only with points ranking with other guilds. It's just pve autism
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>>135552270
I didn't read his post. I saw a blog and dismissed it.

Pic of characters and a one line question is much easier to look at and assess.
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>>135552309
>thinking little girls will qualify when it's their turn to get cucked
It's orbiters can't stop fate.
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>>135547640
and ashit voice.
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How much damage do sr baha weapons give at sl1?
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>>135547640
>big
>fat
i wish
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>>135552406
Well, how strong do you need to be to rank?
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Why is Eugen the only one with low quality voice files?
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>>135552270
It's easier looking at a picture of what he has and what could help him, instead of reading a wall of text.
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>>135553402
its not about strength this time
consider how many whales have over 10k ap/bp potions and you will understand you dont need to be strong.
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when is this shitty game coming to amerifat lands, it's the middle of march already
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>>135553295
And does the attack up from the sword stack with dagger's?
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>>135553735
Never, there is literally never going to be an international release
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>>135553735
Never
The localization is an asian english release for asian territories
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>>135553735
>coming to amerifat lands

Literally never ever
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>>135553859
what? there is an international version coming march 2016, it was announced a long time ago, did they cancel it all of a sudden?
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Are there any aspects of the game that don't use ap/bp? Or rather allow you to play GBF as much as I'd want? From reading the guide it appears that co-op can be done infinity?
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>>135553925
It's for SEAniggers, not the white man.
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I hope they release it soon so memers and newfags can stop talking about it.
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>>135553925
Its just an english translation, you'll still be playing on the Japanese server
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>>135553925
>america consists of the entirety of 'international' territory
this is the trump generation
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>>135550780
Started mid January and by the end of magnafest I was able to wreck Tia alone. Can only survive on Colossus until 15-20% because Dimension.

I'd be able to do others but I need to replace Lina, Ippatsu, Mari. Would be nice if fire had a unit with a -40% group damage and a veil; I really miss Catalina.
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>>135554074
coop is 0 ap if someone is hosting
casino requires its own currency
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>>135554919
Congratulations, you got me mad
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>>135554919
English was a mistake.
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>>135554919
She's not even logged in.
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Silly question, if I purchase Cagliostro skin set do I get her or just the skin?
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>>135555174
>her
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Honest question guys, is Beatrix good now?
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>>135555174
You get your choice of Earth or Dark Cag when you purchase the skin.
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>>135555174
She's guaranteed to be in the 10 roll that comes with it.
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>>135555309
>>135555280


I bought the skin and didn't get her, instead I got percy.
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>>135555174
It's just the skin and ten-roll. Jessica gives you her character, not sure about Yuri, though I don't think so. Cog and the other guy don't though so if you don't have Cag and don't have your ticket left I'd save your money.
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>crtl+f "english"
>11 (now 12) matches.
Nice.
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>>135555471
Thank you noble anon
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>low level players with English names have started to add me
>they're all windfags
Are Plebbit and Fagbook spreading the wind meme to new players already?
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>>135555471
>save your money
Or buy it and wait with the patience of a Buddha for next surprise ticket.
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>>135555669
>Or buy it and wait with the patience of a Buddha for next surprise ticket.
I bought the Anira skin and now all I have to show for it is a shitty SR that I never even use.
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>>135555564
Who do you think started the meme?
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>>135555824
grats
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>>135555827
Me.
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>>135555564

I'm a windfag only because my opening rolls were birdman petra and I've gotten 6 gawains in the two legfes' since I've been playing, also low level with an english name
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>>135555669
Or that, if you're really dedicated to Cag. Also what's the likelyhood of these cropping back up every year? I was considering getting Jessica but I already bought the surprise ticket and I should watch my spending. Don't want to miss my window though.

>>135555550
>noble
Don't insult me, please.
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>>135555279
Guys, please
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>>135555923
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>>135555564
that's a meme gbfg stole from facebook
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Is wind really that bad for Late Game? I wanted to go with the wind memes because I like Birdman and some of the wind girls but now I'm not sure if I should really take it. Heard that it's better to start Light after Wind but I'm not really all that interested in Light.
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>>135555279
She is good. And by good I mean she's viable, with no major drawback besides setup time and being subject to RNG. There are worse characters that are mainstays for other elements. Beatrix unfortunately is up against much more powerful units that exist in Dark, but if you have her there's no real reason why you can't use her on a team anymore.
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>>135555987
>Don't insult me, please.

Thank you faggot is it better?
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>>135556184
If you're worried about late game, play light. Light's the only element that actually matters if you get to that point.
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>>135556042
I don't have Beato, but from what I understand she's "better but not esports", if that's what you want to know. Honestly if you really like her just go for it, 90% of everything is your pool unless you're trying to do really tough stuff like HL. Remember, at the end of the day it's a game, not a job. Have fun with it.
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>>135556261
Look here you bastard, "mate" or "pal" would have sufficed just fine. I'm just getting your goat, m8.
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>>135556042
She's good but not meta if thats what were after for.
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>>135556232
>>135556310
>>135556475
Well my only dark SSR's are Beatrix and Naru so I wanted to make sure that Beatrix is no longer a baggage
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>>135556572
Just reroll.
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>>135556184
Wind is bad for late game but wind is also the easiest to get late game stuff.

In the current content, the element that rules them all is Light, much thanks to chev swords and Baha HL.
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>>135556604
After 5 months? Are you stupid or what?
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>>135556572
Ticket Vampy if you still can, she's the core of Dark teams. Naru should be okay from what I know about Dark. At the very least it's not the worst start you could have but you'd better pray for good Celeste drops.
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>>135556184
Wind is bad for HL but it smashes everything else. There's nothing wrong with going wind for the majority of the game and using it to easily farm other stuff for use in HL.
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english
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Cag's schoolgirl costume is cute I need it
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>>135556572
She was never outright baggage if you only had 2 dark SSRs. The only time she became a liability is if you had access to better options.

Beatrix can fill the tank niche in dark now, which was something dark had no SSR capable of doing that before, but she can also deal a potentially large amount of damage. She's flexible, but she's not an outstanding DPS like Naru so she gets left in the dust and memed on.

She is, currently, a character that you can decide what you need her to do most, whether that be tank or DPS. Pray for a little RNG luck for TAs and enjoy one of the cutest waifus in the game.
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>>135556572
Thats a really nice team for a start, if you can you could ticket Vampy or Lady grey, whatever you prefer more.
Bear is by no means bad, if you ougi at 12 she has 2nd highgest damage only behind to nee-chan with oda.
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>>135556690
>>135556814
I see. So I should just go Wind anyways because Light is probably the only good element for late game, right? It's probably stupid to be worried about late game this early but I just wanted to know if late game is SERIOUSLY important enough for me to drop going for Wind.
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>>135557156
It is not.
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>>135556936
Hmm I'll probably go Dark after I get my water team strong. Currently have Bea, and Vampy? Should I pick up Grey or Vira?
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>>135556572
>>135557395
Beatrix is pretty shit.

Aim to get an actually good Human team like Vira/Vampy/Grey or a solo team like Vampy/Naru/Grey. You should definitely ditch beatrix on the first chance you get and see how your dark team gets a lot better.
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Curious am I being memed on? People have been telling me that cag's schoolgirl outfit will give you cag off of the 10 roll. Used said 10 roll and got a Percivel so it's not a total loss I'm just wondering if I'm losing out on something.
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>>135557512
Yes, they are tricking you. It is only the skin and a 10 roll.
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>>135556936
How does she stack up against Vira for the DPS role in human teams? Vira and Beatrix would be my next ticket candidates, and Beatrix is a little more tempting.
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>>135557512
>Did you believe something you read on the thread?

Yes, you got memed on.
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>>135557512
Congratulations on wasting your money.
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>>135557156
You can use what the fuck ever in HL, mostly because every team comp will be the same and only like 3~4 classes get used, stuff like Chev and Celeste HL you can just wind meme to death, same goes got Apollo.
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>>135557605
>>135557619

Alright it's cool, I mostly bought it under the assumption I wouldn't get it but I wanted it incase I ever did pick up a cag. Just saw later that day posts saying what I referred to earlier. Also got best boy out of it so it's whatever.
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>>135557395
Vira/Grey/Vampy are the cookie cutter HL team, and what I still run in that format. Beatrix is just fine to run in solo situations or situations where a non-AoE ougi is wrecking your shit, but she doesn't replace any of the cookie cutter builds. She's just fine for a beginner dark team though, she can pull her own weight now, and can fill a niche no other dark SSR can.

>>135557471
"Pretty shit" being anon's way of saying she isn't going to win you any MVP races. Beatrix is just fine for solo content.
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Also reminder for anyone planning on going dark, Six is really good now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcKO8Kae4E4
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>>135557156

This is important, okay? The game is going to change. Your decisions can't turn on a dime. You have to commit to things, and if you overcommit based on the current state of the game, you'll be in a bad spot.

The things that are in the game right now are not all there will ever be. What you can do instead is try to determine where the game is heading, and build based on that idea.

Of course, that's difficult to do when you are new. Which is why I would personally recommend picking a balanced core which can be adapted in the future.

The reason the whole wind thing is going on is because people picked a really extreme glass team that worked for current content, but the lategame stuff (and other things they've added to bridge the game into the lategame) are punishing to that kind of extreme playstyle. It's unlikely that it will stop there, either.

The same could happen to whatever build you make. So my opinion, don't treat advice like an instruction booklet, at least not too seriously. Try to figure out how things work, first.
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I need legfest already so i can roll my cag and buy her costume
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Why are people even worried about english? For the most part it's not even an official english release. Support/help/etc will all be nip, and they won't be making it totally global.
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>>135557618
If you have cat in back line vira can shit over Bea on a regular basis.
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>>135557156
You're going to have to develop more than one team at some point in time you know that right?

But yeah the typical wind strategy involves hitting something until it dies. Damage caps and the sheer amount of HP HL bosses have make that strategy less viable, so it becomes more important to have teams that can survive a while and effectively deal with enemy ougis/charge attacks. Wind does not deal too well with this.
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>>135557618
Vira has her shroud that gives her 1 turn of guaranteed TA which you can use turn one, and that makes her a really good ougi starter for your first ougi. Her 9 fucking turn CD if you don't want to waste a sub slot for Kat though, makes her fall off in that regard every turn after that.

Beatrix takes 2 turns to set up her TA, but one you get her TAs rolling she completely outpaces Vira in terms of ougi generation AND if you ougi at 12 then she ougis harder than every other human character by a long shot.

Basically, Vira is better for MVP racing, but Beatrix is the best human DPS in the long run.

Comparing Vira and Beatrix in terms of DPS is like comparing a Ret Paladin and a Rogue, respectively, in WoW. The Ret Pala has much bigger burst phases every few minutes in the fight but the Rogue has much more stable DPS over the course of the fight.
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>>135557156
Winds niche is being able to do damage the more damage you take, however wind lacks the ability to reset HP outside of Anchira so they can't take extended fights as well. For anything outside of HL wind will make your life really easy.
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>>135557851
How quickly does the meta move in this game anyway? Like right now, people are saying light is uncontested best element. What was the best element before that and when did it change? And how often do game updates make characters rise or drop in tiers?
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>>135558597
Meta never change unless you play more than half a half. You need specific settings for a few battles and that's when you're 1-2% of the playerbase. Just keep following the memes.
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>>135558321
>however wind lacks the ability to reset HP outside of Anchira
Lenah exists and is used in HL.
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>>135557969
Anyone in dark can shit on Beatrix on a regular basis in a proper team though.

Leaving out seasonals, the only ones that couldn't would be like Sarunan and Cerberus. Saru because he's SR tier and cerberus because cygames forgot she exists.

Grey brings 30% def down and slow

Vaz is a pretty simple character to manage and shits out damage in a doraf team.

Vira can cover the attacker role and bring other really useful utilities like Veil or a mini mist.

Vampy brings a ton of utilities to the table that make your life easier.

Naru will carry your team on her back and give you big numbers with OD assassin.

Meanwhile at Beatrix, it feels like she brings nothing of worth to the table. Everything she does is done better by other characters on dark. Like if you need a tank then you can just grab Zaza and if you need damage then you can grab someone like Vaz, Vira or Naru that will deliver better and more consistent results in their respective teams.
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>>135558814
Lena exists only in Medusa HL, literally one battle.
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>>135557695
Got it, Thanks! Hopefully, I won't regret my decision of going with the wind memes first.

>>135557851
>>135558135
>>135558321
Noted. I'm aware that I will have to play more than one element later on but I kinda want to take a element first that will stay good and won't fall off but considering that only Light is relevant in HL, I will just continue with my idea of going Wind first.

Also, I've been wondering, what makes Fire so bad? Dark, Water and Earth seem fine but everyone really likes to poke fun of Fire, why is that?
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>>135558597
It moves pretty slowly. Like I have a teams made with characters from last year that are still very viable.

Did you play PAD or something?
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>Shitters giving HL advice when newfags won't reach there in 6 months and they will quit before rank 101
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>>135558964
>what makes Fire so bad?
This game is all about farming weapons. Fire's only weapon is a fucking stick.
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>>135558964
Fire has a lot of really amazing characters but because of how stats are determined from your equipment more than your characters it starts to lack in the firepower department. I think a lot of fire characters would be downright broken in other elements.
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