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Incestuous Shotacon Princess Edition
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Just Released
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Recent Releases
29th Jan 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1927285
29th Jan 2016 - Rance 01 OVA Ep 3 (JAP)
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1926624
Released Last Two Years (See FAQ for downloads and info)
October 2015 - Blade Briders OVA (JAP)
August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)
June 2015 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 2 (JAP/ENG)
April 2015 - Evenicle (JAP)
January 2015 - Mamatoto (ENG)
December 2014 - Rance 01 OVA Episode 1 (JAP/ENG)
October 2014 - Blade Briders (JAP)
September 2014 - Kichikuou Rance (ENG)
April 2014 - Rance IX (JAP)
On permanent hiatus unless localised by Mangagamer. Late 2016 at the earliest for the next Alicesoft game after Haruka.
Rance 5D - 100% translated,100% edited. Never to be released
Rance VI - 88.4% translated.
Rance Quest - 59% translated
>>135482143
Maris finds no sadness whatsoever in serving Lia, shouldn't you be happy that she is capable of living her life in near constant bliss?
>>135482129
Looks like a body that to used for constant breeding
>>135482230
Maris is damaging Leazas by not breeding
>>135482304
instead it's used for plots to turn her younger brother into a shota.
>tfw someone else gets to bath and snuggle with your shota brother
>>135482323
I'm still uncertain as to whether or not I like old Maris or new Maris more. Both are just too good.
>>135482323
True but considering the situation, it's rather unlikely that she'll get paired off with somebody until Rance loses interest in Maris. Maris belongs to Lia and Lia will give Rance whatever he wants
>>135482304
There is meant to be a "should" in there.
>>135482427
i thought she was much better in KR and 01 than in Quest
She obviously didn't appear in Sengoku
My preference is KR clothes > Schoolgirl (Suama) > New uniform
>>135482602
Maris doesn't have much screen time in Quest but she uses it effectively that is to say, getting Rance to spend time with Lia
>>135482481
Rance x Lia x Maris. Everyone wins.
>>135482602
Her schoolgirl outfit was so good, holy shit man. I really like her KR clothes too, though. Hard call.
>>135482724
>Everyone wins.
Exactly, now you just have to convince Rance on it.
>Sauce decides to win the Est bowl with her cooking skills
>asks him what he wants to eat
>pick young girls
>She decides to cook Sekiei
>>135482724
it happens in Quest
>>135482758
What, he doesn't like Maris?
>>135482882
He loves fucking Maris
>>135482882
Well, he finds her unnerving in 03 but that's besides the point.(Damn you Maris, you cost us a Lia scene in 03)He loves fucking Maris but impregnating her is a different matter
>>135482980
To be honest Maris is more likely to be the issue there.
Though the real issue is that she's not relevant enough or popular enough to get a scene in X.
She doesn't warrant a scene on her own and she already did a 3P with Lia in Quest
KR remake is the only hope
>>135483081
Maris's only hope of a scene in X died whenLia became pregnant as Rance doesn't do pregnant sex
>>135483081
The curse of liking a non-popular girl.She and Lia should have been knocked up at the same time.
>>135483131Lia will probably give birth before or early in X
>>135483342
Completely depends on the time difference between IX's ending and X
Est should just hook up with his sister already.
He's continually going on about how she's a better ruler than he is
>>135483380
The other endings in IX suggest that plenty of time will past before X
On the other hand it's quite possible that Lia won't get any scenes in X
At least bar the inevitable harem sex scene at the end
>>135483542
>The other endings in IX suggest that plenty of time will past before X
and then there are endings like Senhime and Sheila's, it's just a unknown factor at the moment and I'm not getting my hopes up until it's known. 03 not having a Lia x Rance scene already stung rather badly
>>135481213
>Out of tradition she's always my main archer
Only archer, I hope.
>and I usually run Yamamoto Sweeping Fire.
Only good in 0/1 star to be honest, you should get the assassination move instead if you ever want her to be useful on higher difficulties.
>I never really got on board with the diviner/Omachi abuse.
The Tactician / Cavalry Battle Rating Down / Up is where it's at for real at the highest difficulties.
>>135484195
I've finished a 2 star with her, and got halfway through a 5 star KTM before getting bored. Takeda generals + popularity staff Omachi trivializes most things in my opinion, so I'm fine with having a lot of units kicking around that I just like.
I really should play Akashi FFA sometime, though.
Best maid
>>135484823
>cumming inside on her ovulation day
Yes
>>135485178
Oh god yes.
>>135484823
She's pretty much the only one of the hundreds of maids who actually liked EstWell she obviously loves him
Also for some reason the free potions Alma is making the maids give to the public have aphrodisiac in them.
Sharl is only interested in getting fucked by Est though
Est is still such a siscon
The search team really gives no fuck
>>135482724
Why are we pretending Suama is Maris?
>>135486519
I don't know, anon.
I would a Suama.
>>135486519
Because we don't want to admit that that hot schoolgirl will never appear again.
Well I'm off to sleep. Unfortunately I won't be able to play much Drapeko tomorrow
>>135488505
Hopefully someone else takes over bumping
>>135489537
Yeah, I'm just about to head out to class as well. Starting 03 when I get back.
If we're still alive, that is.
>>135489593
You gave up on 02 then or did you already played it?
>>135490896
Couldn't get it to hook correctly. Quite a long attempt to get it to work last thread, actually.
>>135491326
And can you hook 03?
>>135491493
Yeah, I assume so. There's been people that have said 02 wasnt hook-friendly, anyways.
![[HH] Rance 01 Hikari o Motomete The Animation - 03 [5C475A43].mp4_snapshot_15.17_[2016.03.17_17.03.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GxjUfkT.jpg "[HH] Rance 01 Hikari o Motomete The Animation - 03 [5C475A43].mp4 snapshot 15.17 [2016.03.17 17.03.36]")
CUTE!
![[HH] Rance 01 Hikari o Motomete The Animation - 03 [5C475A43].mp4_snapshot_20.44_[2016.03.17_17.10.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/i0j7il1.jpg "[HH] Rance 01 Hikari o Motomete The Animation - 03 [5C475A43].mp4 snapshot 20.44 [2016.03.17 17.10.33]")
>>135493608
HNNNNNNNNNNG
What do I buy? More onaholes, a Senhime figure (which one?), or do I try to track down some of the wallscrolls?
>>135495350
>do I try to track down some of the wallscrolls?
This.
>>135497782
>maris best
>great lia scene
>save kuu
>milly route
>dick pulptenks
>tada loli
>>135498335
I would a Pulptenks.
>>135497782
>maris best
>maris hard sex
>great scene lia
>shota series
>save kuu
>dick pulpenks
>milly route
>edging princess
>>135495350
Some doujins that aren't on the panda
>>135482873
>Sauce
I hope Kuu laughs at that name too
>>135497782
>buy bad rance
The cloud is predicting the future.
Also:
>ass stuff plot
>kamilla years
Oh she's so cool, so cool.
>>135491493
The code is in the pastebin anyway
Anal
>>135502173
Analsel
>>135497782
>dick isoroku enough
>mailla years dick
NUNJA
>>135501783
When can you make that gem blue?
All these sex scenes one after another
>>135505116
Also Est was just given a medicine that really boosts libido.
However it had no effect on him. Kuu was surprised because this should only happen if you were exposed during childhood.
Goddammit Alma
>you will never by this swag
>>135505589
>baron squid a great
>>135484823
>the slutty maid actually felt some guilt about betraying Est and when she got influenced by the aphrodisiac potion held back until she could find Est
>the pure sister wanted to inform on him and fucks groups of random hobos
>>135503830
Patton doesn't deserve Hunty, just like rick doesn't deserve Leila or Maris.
>>135505939
Also she remained a virgin despite getting paid to fuck Est because her sister pretended to be her
>>135506272
Patton really does deserve Hunty though
So yeah she was actually researching on how to transform men back into shotas
>>135507814
>be a shitty dad who lost his job due to the recession
>get a really shifty job to try and buy your son a toy
>get turned into a shota and lose all your memories
>get given said toy by coincidence because your new masters want you to keep quiet during your free time
>somehow meet your son. Don't recognise him
>give him the toy
>start crying without knowing why
>>135511165
>know that Kuu is allies with Est
>know that Kuu is a dragon
>decide to shut down the dragon festival
>get told that the citizens are organising it on their own anyway
>decide to use the cunning plan to shut it down with the excuse that nobody has ever seen a dragon in centuries anyway
>>135511965
Sounds like a great plan to me.
So what should I do next? I've been running in this tower forever. Top floor doesn't have a ladder up. Have I missed something?
>>135513079
Yeah you have to kill the bugs in the hyper building to get access to the elevator.
Also you're really fucking quick if you're the anon who just finished 01
>>135512550
To be fair Kuu didn't want to transform into a dragon.
She only did when she heard all the people start shouting that they don't care if dragons are now extinct because they still love and respect dragons
>>135513397
Nah, I'm a different one.
Can you be a little bit specific? Where should I look for those bugs? What floor?
>>135513397
If you mean the anon who finished 01, and then fucked around with 02, that's me. Just installing 03 right now.
>>135513648
That makes a lot more sense
>>135513565
Can't remember the floor
Check here
http://alice.xfu.jp/doku.php?id=%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B903:index
But they're enemy cards so you shouldn't miss them
>>135514075
Just a quick question before I start 03, does it have nearly as much missable stuff as 01?
I'm beating myself up over not being able to get the item to beat Yuran, because I didn't talk to Sill when she was still at the school.
Finish the common route of Drapeko
Now it's time to properly sleep. Stay alive /haniho/
>>135514631
There are a few small side quests and some girls need you to grind items to get but you can go back and do them until you fight Noce
>>135513397
Actually no. Kuu doesn't like the humans praising her because of some emotional claptrap about whether or not humans are food so she feels guilty (she's never eaten any humans though).
>>135515019
Alice is a character?
Have they finally done it? Have they finally lewded their mascot?
Good to know, as long as they're not super missable like some of the ones in 01 I have no complaints at all.
>>135515261
That's ありす, not アリス.
>>135515261
01 was made to be a new game but keeping some of the characteristics of games from back them, like all those missable, saving only in inns, the game package being like old games packages, and so on.
>>135515261
No. She's a really hot idol who looks like Alice (the mascot) when she's in her idol uniform.
You can fuck her in that form, in her real form and in her dark alice cosplay
>>135515019
>Yulang
Still surprised they bothered to give her a sex scene in the OVA
It's like they don't want popular characters to get sex scenes
holy fuck i'm currently watching the embodiment of Bird playing Sengoku Rance
>calls Rance rude all the time
>constantly apologizes to the Women Rance rapes
>favourite commander is Hara
>Gave Aki back to Hara without even thinking
>Thinks Dasan is a bro
>Heaccepted Kenseis offer
>>135516443
Why would anyone stream Sengoku Rance if they don't like games where the protagonist is a rapist?
>>135516443
It's funny to think that what he actually does ends up making things worse for those girls.
>>135516443
I bet he didn't even attack the Miko Institute.
>>135520045
You would be correct
(he did have sex with them tough)
>>135521023
You have to be a fool not to get one of the best girls.
Natori so great.
Not so fast, /vg/.
>>135484823
>>135505939
What is this and what is going on
Not yet, /vg/.
>>135526318
Seems /vg/ is moving fast today. 2 dead threads, 1 that that was filled rather quickly and now 1 that seems to get close to death.
>>135526603
Again.
Rise
>>135526603
Yeah, it's been pretty weird lately. 15 pages when?
>>135516620
Because it's an idiot.
>>135521970
If it's a first timer he doesn't know that Natori is broken.
Teru is the best girl introduced in Sengoku Rance and the best Foot Soldier commander.
>>135538735
>the best Foot Soldier commander.
>>135540054
1) You can only get him on two routes, one of which has 0 story, and the second is the worst of the story routes.
2) You can't get sexual satisfaction from him (Rance, or you - the player).
3) Even when you can get him you get him too late (not to mention you can have Teru literally from the start as a bonus).
4) He's not a super cute legal loli with tsureme eyes and sex hair.
Case closed.
>>135540424
You just said "best" with no context.
Objectively and Gameplay-wise, Yoshihisa is the best foot soldier.
>>135540618
No, objectively Teru is better, because gameplay wise he is a non option in the canon route and useless on the other routes.
He's only better than Teru on FFA. ¡Ya basta!
>>135525102
Drapeko.
Read the last thread for more of an explanation
>>135536105
But I meant that Natori is one of the best girls as in character design and personality.
>>135541035
Her titties are too saggy.
>>135540832
That's a different thing. That's like saying Ranmaru is better than Baba because you have the former from minute one while Baba is hard as shit to get.
In 1 on 1 comparison with just stats and skills, he wins.
>>135541375
No, that's just apples and oranges. Ranmaru is better than nothing at all, she's just slightly above average at start and falls of quickly.
It's actually like saying Shigehiko is better than Toshihisa (which is also true - even though neither of them are the best Musketeer of course). Disregarding the cost of what it takes to make use of commanders is not an objective analysis. And Shimazu brothers have definitely the greatest cost / lowest return.
>>135541183
But anon, they're nice and soft.
>>135526603
That thread was quick because we had three anons posting about their current playthroughs and Drapeko is new for most of us
>>135543094
Ramius soft?
>>135543943
Yeah, that's I thought as well to explain that kind of activity considering we had 1 thread that went for at least a week.
>>135543943
I wish Drapeko was translated
>>135540424
Teru is petite. She is in no way a loli
>The exact mechanics of Light Attack are not known, but it appears that if your prison is not over 20 people full, and you've Light Attacked, and then annihilated a capturable unit without using an insta-kill attack on that unit, it will be captured. If the unit is not captureable, but not critical to the story either (e.g. the unit is a generic with Assassinate 2 or something like a Monster), the unit will be killed. If you did use an insta-kill move on the unit, it appears that the effect of Light Attack is negated, and whether the unit is captured, killed, or simply routed is left to chance. Interestingly, Light Attack also seems to let you capture or kill more than two units per battle.
Wow, this must have been a relatively new addition to the wiki.
>>135553387
It's been there for a while. There was one anon sometime ago trying everything out in Sengoku and fixing that part of the wiki.
>>135553473
So whose the best bushi to get it on other than the uncute meganeko who starts with it.
>>135500242
We need more doujins
If every house in Free for All mode of Sengoku Rance was played by a human player from this general, who would win?
Obviously, the only applicable answers are Shimazu, Demons, Takeda or Youkai.
>>135553958
Ranmaru.
>>135555459
I would
>>135555459
Shimazu has the strongest positioning and units, they only start off with one enemy and from there they can make sure they don't have to deal with many enemies at a time while everyone is trying to rip everyone else apart.
Takeda is surrounded by too many enemies, one eyed could face an alliance of uesugi, hojou and takeda because if they don't omachi will rip them apart, the rest would be smaller houses building up their forces while the big houses are trying to keep one another in check.
Sounds like a blast really, if only it was a thing.
>>135555459
Playing Sengoku Rance with many people using different houses sounds freaking awesome to be honest.
Obviously it's unbalanced as fuck, but it doesn't matter.
>>135556595
Shimazu can pretty much only recruit female commanders though.
Some other player would recruit all the strong male commanders from the beaten houses.
>>135557003
It's awesome as an idea but completely shit in practice due to the imbalance you mentioned.
>>135557816
What if the Yang Wenli-s of Alicesoft general were forced to play as Akeshi and Hanny house while the girls would get to play One Eyed House and Shimazu?
>>135557816
The imbalance is part of the fun, unless you're akashi, there's no saving you there.
>>135540618
Nope. Teru's availability alone more than outweighs his stat advantage. Not to mention, just going by raw stats/abilities, Nogiku is better since she actually has high enough INT to get a bulky All Guard each turn.
>>135557639
Doesn't matter. The bros all have great stats, and they get motherfucking OOTOMO SOURIN.
>>135557816
Maybe if you re-balanced things different by giving better bonus to the crappiest houses and bigger costs to the strongest.
In the original FFA there were houses that were meant to be challenging or a joke but that can be fixed a bit even if some are still better than others.
>>135558335
All Guard sucks, even if it's Nogiku's 9 INT one. Counterattack Rate Up 2 + Dragonfly Cutter is huge value - you basically get multiple free attacks for one action point spent.
>>135558335
Counterattack 2 instantly places Teru and Yoshihisa above other Foot Soldiers even if they didn't have high stats.
>>135559197
For just your front line, and magic/projectiles ignore it. All Guard is arguably more useful since you can cover both rows, and the main point of even using a foot soldier is defense.
>>135559502
All Guard is only better in lowert difficulties. In higher runs you depend more on Counterattack damage.
>>135559678
That's debatable. Unless you used all the bonuses to get more income to buy troops, you're always going to be massively outnumbered in 5 star, so counterattack will get less mileage overall. Personally, I see All Guard coupled with Enhanced Initial Guard as the outright best foot soldier setup.
>>135560094
It's because of the massive troop size that foot soldiers with all guard get raped.
The trick is in using shikigami to avoid the damage.
>>135559502
See >>135559678.
The main problem with All Guard is that pathetic 10% per INT increase. It should have been at least 15%. The guard can be worn out so easily with just weak attacks and suddenly the protection you've been relying on for your back row too is 50-50 only and do you really want to take that chance when it's a big prep. attack that will win or lose you the game?
All Guard usefulness is just so situational - in example, Foot Soldier in the back row, because I want front row full of offense units, or only Foot Soldier in the front row, and the back row is full.
>>135563129
I'd protect Kanami from bullying and harm if she was still a virgin. But she's not, so bully away.
Other than the obvious Ai/Sumire ending, is there any other harem endings in 妻みぐい3?
Toru/Kuu chapter of Drapeko
>>135568189
The CGs suggest there is
>>135568451
The thing is I don't give a fuck about Toru while I actually like Alma so I don't care that Alma is about to beat the shit out of Toru
>>135568451
>The CGs suggest there is
Oh joy, I bet they all involve Miyuri as well.
>>135568638
That's the problem with making villains more likable than the heroines.
>>135568796
It's a weakness in Drapeko. Some of the characters have some amusing dead ends but I don't really care for that many.
I'm enjoying the game though.
>20/999
Something plot related is going to reduce that cap, I would hope. It's quite frankly impossible to reach 999 with the current system
>>135570097
You can clear the game just fine at the mid 40s.
>>135570097
In what?
>>135570097
>>135569994
Not being able to make you care about the character is a rather huge flaw
>>135570316
>999
Try fucking her daughter.
>>135570270
Well that's lame, having the bar and not letting you fill it up is a bit of a tease
>>135570475
I was talking about Rance 03, no idea about Tsumamigui, go for it.
20/999 made me instantly think of Feliss.
>>135570442
Yeah Ai is the next route I'm going for and then Ai/Sumire. The other harem endings look like they require giving affection to Miyuri which I don't want to do
>>135570316
Well I just don't like Toru's archtype at all.
>>135570894
I don't know anything about her but female knights/heroes tend to good, what's her deal?
>>135570581
Fair enough.
>>135570316
I like the miko
>>135571053
Just such a generic straight laced, tomboy female paladin.
Others may like that but I don't really care.
>>135571990
Her mother is one as well
>>135572297
She at least has some type of twist to her right?
>>135571990
She's the least attractive for me. If possible, I'd avoid her route. I haven't played the game yet though. I'm not sure when I might.
>>135573067
With what I've played so far, Ai is clearly best girl even though she's the only non-wife in the game.
>>135572781
Well maybe in her end.
But otherwise she's straight forward.
Childhood friend that Est thought was a boy. Goes to face Alma on her own because she doesn't want Est to have to fight and maybe kill his sister.
>>135574360
Sounds generic and boring.
>>135570097
>>135570316
Yep,plot related sex scene raises that all the way up to 999
Hahaha.
I knew hewas Alma and Est's father
>>135500242
>>maris hard sex
Gotta agree with this 100 percent
So of all the maids who are loyal it happens to be the one who joins the workforce the day of the coup
Huh, the walkthrough on Seiya for Sayoko doesn't 100% clear her. I was wondering why I didn't get a epilogue
So yeah.
Her actual aim was actually to turn Est back into a shota
>>135584994
>>135585138
Why didn't she just fuck him back then?
>>135585138
Basically as a young shota Est always clinged to his nee-san all the time. But then he got lost and met Kuu and started loving dragons plus naturally started growing up.
And that is why Alma hates dragons.
Excuse me, but what does this say?
>>135585406
Sel is restoring hp to the group after battle due to the ALICEMANLADY ability she has gotten?
>>135585446
Oh, I see. Thanks.
And another question. How can I get to that treasure? Those traps throw me to the start of the dungeon.
>>135585689
You don't, that treasure was the mimic that attacked Feliss
>>135585771
Oh, thanks, I can stop thinking about it then.
She'd made a difficult sister in law
>>135585879
Why would you want to choose anybody else when you have a sister like that and be ruling a kingdom so you can tell others to fuck off about the incest part?
Why is she weaker than in chapter 1?
>>135585984
Is there any way to beat her in the first chapter? If so that might be a bonus/hidden ending
>>135585930
i have no idea. Fortunately Drapeko has many ends so surely one of them is a wincest end
>>135586135
She clearly has a scene judging by the OP's picture
>>135586135
Wouldn't be surprised if she is the main girl in the harem end if there is one
>>135586051
It's not even hidden
Orange is the fight.
There is a good end if you win.
And going back to the choices before the fight and a good end will be unlocked once you've completed the main heroine ends
>>135586331
And of course there is a 'bad' end after this fight where she is trying to inject Est with the shota potion
>>135585984
>>135586505
Let's hope she doesn't go nuts because she lost
>>135586505
End isn't looking too bad at the moment
You guys really try hard to make me want to play Dorapeko.
>>135586880
But then shota Est calls her oba-san and Alma dies of shock.
>>135587041
Hahaha, what did she expect?
>>135587041
Which makes sense given that the last time Est was that age she looked like this
When Est was scared at night and she looked after him
>>135587080
Probably not being indirectly told she's old
>>135586627
Well she apparently can use recovery magic on herself.
She probably put her self through the same artifical magician program that happened to Sekiei.
She's a good dedicated onee-san
>>135586880
So why did she bother with the coup and everything, couldn't she pull off her plan without needing to kick her brother out?
>>135588040
She needed access to some secret rooms which only the King could enter
Because in addition to Est she was going to make everyone shotas. Though Est was the really important one and when her first plan failed she was still fine if she could get Est.
And she had Est locked in the dungeons. It was Kuu who came in and got him out of the castle
>>135588165
Hahaha.
And Est's sword which can cut anything including apparently things that aren't physical has attacked the taint in his sister.
Now he can help his sister follow a proper path rather than rely on nobody bar herself and get dependent on her brother looking up to her.Well this is for the Kuu/Toru end afer all. I will get the sister end
Now for the heroine ends.
I'm probably capable of beating Alma back in Chapter 1 but I'll save the best for last and do the Sauce/Sekiei chapter after this
guessing the Alma sex scenes and the harem sex scenes are from winning that fight
Well the Kuu route started with a twist
Est realises that he doesn't need the wish from the dragon balls so gives them to Kuu and Kuu betrays him.
Kuu is now demoted to second best girl behind Alma
>>135588872
Kuu always has her own agenda. Even Evenicle points that out
>>135587021
Do it for Nee-san
Same VA as Lia and Kyou as wellYou are now imagining Lia and Maria plotting to turn Rance into a shota for Lia to raise
>>135588923
Est already knew though
>>135588986
Can't imagine Lia doing that, those Shotas look to be too young to fuck
>>135584298
and now the lack of harem ends make sense.
>>135588872
And the stupid Cat had a purpose after all in showing Kuu the power of coexistance.
Okay Kuu's 'betrayal' didn't actually surprise me but this actually did.
>>135583971
>loyal
>>135589371
This actually explains why there is an end after her bad end in chapter 1.
When we were told that she was royalty from the Vampire country
>>135558109
What does it take to become a Yang Wenli of Alicesoft general?
>>135589371
And that bitch Angela wasn't even working for Alma
fuck her
>>135573508
>>135584298
I might have to take that back my comment on Ai being best girl after seeing Sayoko's true ending and Epilogue. Still have to do Ai's route though
The lack of harem ends makes sense now.
>>135589957
Sounds like a worst girl.
>>135590030
Basically the world in Drapeko has lots of mystical creatures like dragons/vampires/harpies etc
But they're getting driven extinct by humanity and heroes like Toru.
However there are wishes you can get by passing a trial given by a dragon/phoenix etc which lets you get a wish from god (who is more like a computer system).
But they can't get wishes from passing their own trials and need to depend on someone (like Est) passing on their wish.
So they set up various kingdoms and taught humans how to do various things in order to build trust. Like Dragon Valley which is the kingdom Drapeko is set in.
It's also why at the very first scene of the game when Est is a shota, Kuu makes the deal with him and why Kuu was so keen for Est to take the Dragon Trial and collect the dragon balls.
Toro (the cat girl general who is the typical bumbling and friendly enemy) is one of the few that decided to actually pursue coexistence with humanity
Though Kuu has been struggling over the course of the game and felt a lot of guilt over all the people being so grateful towards dragons.
Alma's desires and aim came from herself but she was influenced by Angela (a harpy) and Neve (the vampire who manipulates shadows).
Neve wants to assimilate God.
Also pretty funny that you can rape Neve and find out she is royalty from the vampire country in chapter 1 the the good end that can come from that isn't available until you complete the Kuu route
>>135590614
What happens in that good end?
How do I get to Haruka's Love Route?
Some guide says I need <80 PP before proposing to her, and I did with 74 PP, but still ended up with her Pure Love Route.
>>135590614
suck shit you bitch
Ria? RIA?
>>135590772
I haven't got it yet. But if you notice it's greyed out because I don't have the item that meets the requirement (having completed Kuu's end).
So Est rapes Neve then gets shipped off to marry her and live in the Vampire Country which is a bad end.
If you completed Kuu route it becomes a good end instead.
>>135590896
R and L are interchangeable. Lia sounds better though
>>135590979
>If you completed Kuu route it becomes a good end instead.
Does the ending change at all?
Vampire assimilated Kuu
In Drapeko Kuu thinks she's a real big shot but is actually just a really powerful pawn. In Evenicle on the other hand she's genuinely the master.
Though they're different people
>>135590896
Some of the names are like that. Just ignore it
>>135591101
I don't know yet. Probably just shows Est enjoying himself with Neve and Neve giving up on her plot to assimilate god
>>135591104
>Vampire capable of doing that to a dragon
Bullshit
>>135590896
Alicesoft's romanizations are weird sometimes.
>>135591168
Kuu had lost sight of her purpose as a dragon because she really didn't want to kill Est and the other humans she befriended.
Kuu will obviously fight it off in the end
>>135591241
She needed more power to do that so Est fed her his arm
>>135584356
Dat body
>>135591551
Alma won't be happy
>>135591674
Is she unconscious or something?
>>135590030
>Ai's route contains a massive amount of overlap with Sumire's route
If I knew this was the case I would have done Ai's first
>>135591714
Yes
Est wishes that dragons/vampires etc no longer have to eat humans to live.
Kuu gives him an artificial arm.
Est's Dad is King again and Alma is now sane again so is helping him run the kingdom.
Angela is in prison.
Sauce is still engaged with Est while Sekiei is hoping for the mistress role. Sharl is considering returning to the castle to become Est's maid.
And Kuu is enjoying her rice balls
>>135590858
Bump, please.
>>135593248
You might want to specify what you're playing
>>135593248
What exactly is the problem?
>>135593291
... Really?
>>135593291
>>135593328
>>135593478
Beat Blades Haruka
According to this guide: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Beat_Blades_Haruka:Walkthrough
I just beat the game with Haruka's Pure Love Route (or True Love, according to the guide), and I wish do it with just the Love End.
According to the guide, I need less than 80 PP before proposing to Haruka to get the Love Route, and I did. But I still ended up with Pure Love Route.
So I wanna know if I'm missing anything to get the Love Route
>>135593248
Didn't you get her love route?
>>135593791
I'm not sure what the exact differences are between Pure Love and Love routes, but I got the exact same proposal scene.
Plus, upon checking her page, it's explicitly labeled that she's currently in "Pure Love Route"
I should also mention that her Love Gauge is maxed out.
>>135593941
According to the Jap wiki there is a Pure Love Normal route and a Pure Love True Route.
Only the ending is different
>>135593791
I'm not sure what the exact differences are between Pure Love and Love routes, but I got the exact same proposal scene.
Plus, upon checking her page, it's explicitly labeled that she's currently in "Pure Love Route"
I should also mention that her Love Gauge is maxed out.
>>135594691
Skip through it and see if the ending is different. Beyond that, you can try to reach it with lower love and peace.
The Sauce/Sekiei chapter is already shit.
No Alma because fucking boring arse Toru defeats her right at the start.
>>135594814
Actually looks like it has Alma as a an ally. All is forgiven
>>135594119
>>135594750
>>135594876
Sorry, accidentally posted the same thing.
Was meant to say something about how I'm not sure what the "Love Route" equivalent is for the official localization. Not sure why her page still says "Pure Love Route" even after proposing with 74 PP
In any case, I'll try to skim through the game for now and see if there are any differences. Otherwise, there must be another condition to go to her actual Love route.
If Drapeko had an actual gameplay it probably would have come out as a really cool game.
>>135595834
Yeah
You could integrate it with the existing system as well.
I'll finish the second lot of heroines tomorrow or later tonight
Angela is now corrupting Kuu
>>135595834
I don't know. It's very purposefully a VN. Adding in a gameplay element would require changing the pacing and flow of it which would probably end up detracting from it more than anything else.
>>135590979
>then gets shipped off to marry her and live in the Vampire Country which is a bad end.
How's that a bad end?
>>135596938
Vampires eat humans?
>>135596992
Yeah but she's royalty and you're her husband.
wouldn't you get a lot of protection from that?
>>135597058
One would think that but that would solely depend on how much she likes you.
>>135596938
Because they call it a bad end
>>135596992
>>135597058
>>135597135
After a long stint in the dungeons Neve's vampire form takes over and decides she likes Est and puts his soul into a doll.
She then stops pretending to just be a mere princess and retakes the throne again. But unlike the past sometimes the ice queen occasionally smiles happily
>>135597672
Still sounds like a bad end
I really loved Blade Briders so I went to watch the OVA but that was pretty bad. Although I wasn't expecting much. Ero OVA of non nukiges VNs are really hard to pull off.
Rance 01 one at least stays amusing because of Rance being Rance, and the fact that 01 is short so it probably have a higher rate of ero text x non ero text than the usual Rance Game.
>>135597672
What kind of doll is this?
this is an important question to determine whether or not it qualifies as a good or bad end
>>135597672
>puts his soul into a doll.
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream
>>135597895
I am now away from home so can't remember. Might be a plush.
QD does worse in some of the ends
>>135597813
>Ero OVA of non nukiges VNs are really hard to pull off.
Eh, BBH is a nukige.
>>135598837
Blade Briders isn't
>>135598837
Completely different and unrelated game.
The localized name of BBH was probably intentionally made to be close to it though, so that if the other BB gets brought over it'll make people think it's a series.
>>135599110
Yeah nah. BBH is just the translation
>>135599110
Beat Blade Haruka was subtitle that was used by Alicesoft by the game when it was released in Japan, not a translation by mangagamer.
>>135599187
Not a translation. Actual translation would be something like Super Rise Flash Ninja Haruka.
A wild best girl finally appears!
>>135599523
You are advancing pretty fast.
>>135599523
She's a worse version of Rick
>>135599523
>>135599523
Completely useless just like in quest
>>135599523
Unfortunately for you she's basically useless, just like how she's useless in Quest. She can't just can't compete with who you get later on
>>135599574
I'm skipping all the dialog. And I'm a terrible person because of this, I know.
>>135599574
That's not the anon who just started it.
>>135599605
She is better against solo enemies than Rick. But because she has a low cap, joins late at a low level, and need all 4 skills to use he attack to the utmost, she isn't that useful.
Would be nice if 03 had more scenes you were limited to a small number of characters, so you could use more all their skills like in that big battle.
>>135599718
What's the point of playing 03 then? The gameplay is only okay.
>>135599718
What's the point of playing the game then? It's not like the gameplay is good enough to justify doing that
>>135599762
>She is better against solo enemies than Rick
Not enough solo battles to ever justify using her over Rick, even the boss battles come with adds or multiple targets
>>135599786
>>135599860
I'm vaguely familiar with the plot, just watching how it's executed, I guess. It's actually interesting, for me at least.
>>135599523
Can't see one
Literally got crushed in the polls. Shit for a party member
>>135600118
>Literally got crushed in the polls. Shit for a party member
She did better than Jericho at least.
Akito is lucky to have a guy like this as his friend
Beat Blades Haruka-related question.
Is there any difference in beating Noroi (Super) than Noroi regular? Will it affect the story or will reward me in some way?
>>135602457
The King
Might play this after Drapeko and before Evenicle because I've never played it
>>135608784
I tried to read more of drapeko but i'm too drunk to read Japanese.
>>135609604
You haven't truly mastered the language anon.
>>135610270
That's true. I still hope to translate the prostitute sim this year.
Brutal.
FUCKING ALRIGHT.
I'm the guy earlier having trouble with Haruka's endings earlier. I finally figured out what the problem was.
The guide I consulted was wrong about when the Peace Points mattered.
So basically, it doesn't matter how much PP you have when you propose to Haruka/Narika, but how much PP you have before you engage the final Tetra Sealer which will then lock you to the Final Fights.
And it seems that my first run wasn't True but the normal ending because I had less than 80 PP when I engaged the final boss. So now that I've had a rematch with more than 80 PP, I finally got the True Love ending. It also seems that having a max love gauge is a requirement to get the True Love ending as well.
I'll see what I can do to have the walkthrough in the wiki be changed.
>>135610612
The jap wiki says what you just said
>>135610820
Like most people can consult that, so they had to check the English wiki.
>>135610902
In any case, I just edited it.
No alicesoft bro must suffer the same as I did.
>>135610902
It's weird that it's wrong though considering the original edit was made by someone who knew japanese and, thus, could read the correct information of the jap wiki.
>>135611462
He probably just forgot to add that in or thought people would realize it based on the fact that they were listed as endings instead of routes.
It begins.
Also, I'm upset they took away my ability to take .jpg screenshots.
How many anons do we have playing different games at the moment?
From what I can tell there's 2 playing 03, 1 playing Tsumamigui 3, 1 playing Drapeko and 1 playing Haruka?
>>135613192
Finished as much of Tsum3 as I want to. Miyuri can keep crying about not being able to bear Akito's child for all I care
>>135613192
There will soon be another playing Drapeko.
>>135613192
> 2 playing 03
I just finished it, so it's down to 1 now.
>>135612695
They did that for Tsum3 as well, much to my annoyance.
>>135613192
I've been replaying Daibanchou, but I do that all the time. Might give a shot at machine TL Drapeko too later.
>>135613585
Considerin it's much more of a VN than a game, I don't recommend machine TLs.
>>135613192
I'm stressed after redoing Haruka's route several times, so I'm done with that for today too.
>>135613572
How did you get your screenshots? I'm being a lazy fuck and using lightshot/printscr.
>>135614012
I just used paint to convert file type, I don't really care about any minor quality loss when it's just for a single post on 4chan.
Was Ieyasu a Tanuki in real life too?
>>135614972
Yes.
>>135614972
It's possible. He was a vengeful and bitter man, and there's a theory that Honnouji was orchestrated by him.
Also how does Guts Armor and the +(number) damage items work outside of commander battles?
Why are Diviners so dumb?
>>135618034
Because magic.
>>135484195
>The Tactician / Cavalry Battle Rating Down / Up is where it's at for real at the highest difficulties.
Actually I disagree. Those moves are awesome and gamebreaking, but if you've got the time to actually give the affection bonuses to a Tactician to get to that game breaking level, you're either playing too slowly, got extremely lucky with your early game captures or you're exploiting something.
For example webm related is what I beat 5 Star No Bonus with, Tourin was by no means necessary. You've usually only got the time and bonuses for Initial Battle Rating, which is honestly all you need when you're backed up by Natori and alike.
...maybe you've got a point if we're talking about points runs or something.
On great... my rant on the Foot Solider debates takes more than this post can hold.
>>135621561
Is it about how footsoldiers are completely and utterly broken?
Ok fucking Hell what is this Shimazu vs Mouri shitstorm...
>>135538735
>Teru is the best girl introduced in Sengoku Rance
Retard.
>>135538735
>>135540054
>>135540424
Ok, comparing Yoshihisa to Teru.
Objective stats, Yoshihisa>Teru (not debatable, basic numeracy).
>4) loli
Retard.
>1) You can only get him on two routes, one of which has 0 story, and the second is the worst of the story routes.
>3) Even when you can get him you get him too late (not to mention you can have Teru literally from the start as a bonus).
KTM having 0 story and Ran having shit story does not contribute to the debate. Brining bonuses into the argument is silly in my eyes, since if you're using them then the difficulty of the game, and hence commander comparison becomes irrelevant, but I'll surrender that point.
As for how late you get him, fuck off. If we're gonna argue on that side then I'll play the following cards:
1) Once you've conquered Mouri (and hence got Teru) army combat is irrelevant in the Kenshin and Isoroku routes (Isoroku only needs Senkan Nagato for the endgame to trigger and if you've got Mouri then you've got no excuse to not only be a few turns away from winning Kenshin). Furthermore, army combat becomes irrelevant the second you enter Ran.
This only leaves True, Demon King and KTM. DK is gimmick reliant and basically has to be beat by bullshit, so your choice of Foot Solider is irrelevant, since either way you're gonna stall for as long as you can and therefore have an optimised army no matter who you use. KTM gives me the freedom to get Yoshi just a few turns after Teru, so timing isn't relevant. True is the only time where you may have a point, but True is basically won once you've beat Mouri anyway, and Teru actually needs some Int books to handle the Demon Army Mage Fuckers.
>2) SAT.
Bullshit, Teru takes way too much time (and items) to get SAT from, and afterwards she causes shit pills to drop in dungeons. I go out of my way to NOT clear her.
Char limit...
>>135622279
>>135540832
>No, objectively Teru is better, because gameplay wise he is a non option in the canon route and useless on the other routes.
Your argument only holds for True, and even then your argument is shit.
>>135542318
>Disregarding the cost of what it takes to make use of commanders is not an objective analysis. And Shimazu brothers have definitely the greatest cost / lowest return.
Cost doesn't come into this. Once you've beat Mouri, getting all 4 Shimazu brothers is just a turn or so worth of fans away, as for returns, Teru has just as low a return as Yoshi.
>>135558335
>Nope. Teru's availability alone more than outweighs his stat advantage.
Again, in any routes where they're both obtainable, Yoshi is only a turn's worth of fans away. In other routes you're laughably close to the end game, even in True. You've almost got me at the point of coming up with a deliberately convoluted example of speedrunning KTM to Mouri and Shimazu, and then you'd get mileage out of both of them, so much in face that Yoshi would clearly beat Teru. The funny part is that mad situation is still more realistic than getting good mileage out of Teru in True.
>Not to mention, just going by raw stats/abilities, Nogiku is better since she actually has high enough INT to get a bulky All Guard each turn.
Retard, these guys get it: >>135559197 >>135559410 and don't fucking talk to me about how stupid the amount of work you have to put in to get Nogiku is.
>>135559502
>>135560094.
If you think All-Guard is good, or that Magic matters, you've not been paying attention in 5 Star. This guy gets it >>135561390 , spread the damage out between 2 Foots and the advantage that Counterattack nets you will increase. Regardless, as >>135561390 implied, you should always have two foots anyway.
This guy also gets it >>135561993.
If you still think All Guard is better. Go beat the Takeda blitz on 5 Star with it (preferably No Bonus).
>>135553387
>>135553473
>>135553958
Thanks anons, that was me - just giving the place a visit while I was taking a couple of minutes break from my work. I've still got a few nitpicks on the SR part of the wiki that I want to fix, but I'm probably not going to get around to it for a long time. If you've got any SR questions then post them while I'm still here, I'll lurk until this thread dies, I occasionally visit just to check for any SR questions and to bump us off page 10, it's been fun.
>>135615327
>Also how does Guts Armor and the +(number) damage items work outside of commander battles?
Shit... I either put that on the wiki or it was on my list of thinks to put on the wiki... lemme find it.
Yep, on the items page, but this doesn't look like my writing.
"Items usually work in both commander and troop battles, the Murasame sword increases damage by 20% in both cases. The Orochi Fang and Ryuuguu sword only affect physical damage however. Dungeon walker does not work if the commander is switched in,"
Anyway, if memory serves, this is perfectly accurate, Kiku can actually be pretty broke if you use Leaves Hiding with the Guts Armour, I've even had her tank in 5 star with that technique.
>>135618034
>Why are Diviners so dumb?
SR? Wow this link is stupidly long... I've actually been meaning to make some updates to this page, but the info here will let you get more mileage out of them.
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Commander_Tips#Diviner.2FYin_Yang.28.E9.99.B0.E9.99.BD.E5.B8.AB.2FOnmyouji.29Fuck me, you can tell how tired of working on the wiki I was by the time I wrote most of that page - my literacy is shit.
>>135625026
>Anyway, if memory serves, this is perfectly accurate, Kiku can actually be pretty broke if you use Leaves Hiding with the Guts Armour, I've even had her tank in 5 star with that technique.
Yeah I know it's strong but how does it actually work? What does the Guts Armor do for her? It's not like her unit would be taking less than 100 damage with Leaves Hiding on but without Guts Armor.
Damnit, now I'm thinking about attempting a points run in Sengoku.
With 71 points, what bonuses should I get?
>>135621561
>that unsorted Commander list
Unwatchable.
>>135625862
>Yeah I know it's strong but how does it actually work? What does the Guts Armor do for her? It's not like her unit would be taking less than 100 damage with Leaves Hiding on but without Guts Armor.
Mathematics my boy!
Ok fuck it, I'm a maths undergrad and if I do the calculations I'll go full nerd, if memory serves, the basic idea is that Ninjas actually have a pretty good defence bonus, and the 70% buff from Hiding makes it even better.Go do the maths yourself, I've been doing differential equations all day so if I sit here and try to do something basic, I know for a fucking fact I'll screw up the arithmetic (seriously, you'd be amazed how many maths PhDs I've seen that can do calculus in their heads, but fail arithmetic, I think /hainiho/ actually has a maths PhD lurking who might even confirm this).
Actually come to think of it, when I was first told about the trick, I couldn't believe it either. You've honestly got to test this shit six or seven times before you believe it. If you want you could probably dig in the archives until you find my old Miko experiments, I used to have fun pairing Guts Kiku with a Miko Dance/Wind Chinu, I think it worked until I hit a 5 Star Attack Luck'd Agireda.
>>135626019
>Unwatchable
Sorry mate, stuff gets disorganised at endgame.
>>135625884
>71 points, what bonuses should I get?
Firstly, if you're doing a points run, read this http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=37169 and if you can read Chinese (yes, Chinese), read this http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1274885739?see_lz=1 the guy who did the English points run here has learned from his past turn, and might post here if he still lurks with more tips for you.
As for what bonuses to actually get, I'd say that if you've only got 71 points then you should just have some fun. Go beat the shit out of 5 Star Ran and get some more points, I've got no particular recommendations other than what should be obvious.
>>135622279
>1) Once you've conquered Mouri (and hence got Teru) army combat is irrelevant
Yeah man, not like you can just capture her after the battle event or anything. Not like you can make a beeline for all the Mouri puss' (going West) instead of going East. Not like you can have her literally from the start from the easily obtainable family bonus.
Also
>Bullshit, Teru takes way too much time (and items) to get SAT from
uh huh, so you're one of those people who would kick Kenshin out of the roster because she can't be cleared and get End Game Point bonus (aka people with autism).
I wasn't just talking about the +5 SAT from clearing her, I was also talking about the player getting a nice fap & nut - if not to her sex scene (which is a bit ruined by the slime part, for me, personally) then for the threesome with her sisters, which is another +5 SAT.
Not to mention that you completely missed the point of the cost as well. One of your female commanders has to defect so that you can even recruit them to begin with. Not only can this be delayed for plenty of stupid reasons, causing you to waste turns waiting for them, sometimes the game just decides to fuck you over colossally with the choice of girl defecting.
The last time I tried to recruit them, I remember how it almost drove me insane, trying to recruit them without losing one of my best female commanders. I had at least two of them at <Love that I was ready to lose and for some reason they kept stealing my Love+ girls as well. After hours and hours of reloading I had to settle for them stealing Isoroku.
So in conclusion, yes, Shimazu is the best foot soldier in the game, if you don't account usability into the formula (just like Sourin is the best musketeer by this genius standard).
Meanwhile, in reality world, Teru is better than Yoshihisa, and Yuzumi is obviously better than Sourin. Not just because they're actually realistically usable in the game, but because they'reCUTE GIRLS.
>>135627342
Me on the middle, back row, left army.
>>135627342
Oh shit, I still have to get the 5 points from both Kenshin and Ran route as well.
Never done Ran, is it that easy?
I'll give the link a read, can't read Chinese though - my Japanese is bad enough as it is.
>>135482129
Why doesn't she get more scenes? She looks more fuckable than the entire cast desu.
>>135628818
>Not wanting to fuck a dragon
>>135628818
Kamilla Syndrome.
>>135628989
Bet you playDota 2.
>>135629030
I want more Kamilla.
>>135627436
>Yeah man, not like you can just capture her after the battle event or anything.
Why bother? She's such a good unit that I wouldn't even want to face her in an army battle, her counterattack would fucking slaughter you in 5 Star.
>Not like you can make a beeline for all the Mouri puss' (going West) instead of going East.
Beeline for Mouri is a huge opportunity cost. Even ignoring that Mouri is fairy tough early on, lets look at your potential route:
Do something with Hara.
Break Ashikaga's gourd.
Pretty sure that Oda's gourd needs to snap for you to war Tangeashima (unless you're taking bonuses).
Face the muskets, maybe lose a commander or two, but it's worth it for Yuzumi, right?
Handle the Tenshi Sect at some point.
War Akashi, beat them without permits for a great waste of time and little reward.
War Mouri, forcing Takuga to war.
Waste many turns fighting on two fronts, probably before you even have Battle Permits, no doubt you'll also lose some commanders if you're not scumming Kiku's Assassinate, among other things. Even Cursed Mouri is a tough fight early game.
Beat Takuga and Mouri, getting the max reward from each.
Lose Toukaidou to Takeda because you conquered Mouri too early.
Fuck, that's 4 gourds broke and you haven't got Kenshin or Ran yet. Guess you're going True or Isoroku? What's your 5th gourd gonna be anyway?
Also, if you go True, you're gonna be surrounded by the Demon Army since you never took Uesugi or Takeda. Isoroku leaves you with fewer issues.
Don't get me wrong. It works, it's just needlessly difficult, you're gonna really have a tough time handling all of this shit so early on even if you went out of your way to get Senhime and maybe even Natori, when you could've just took down Kenshin and Takeda instead.
Admittedly, maybe I'm being unfair here, but whenever I've judged it, going east is the better choice.
I need another post for the rest...
>>135629989
>Face the muskets, maybe lose a commander or two, but it's worth it for Yuzumi, right?
>losing a commander
>ever
Dude, this is literally an impossible argument to use in the same universe where you want to prove Shimazu are useful.
>>135629989
>her counterattack would fucking slaughter you in 5 Star.
If you attack footsoldiers with you warriors you are probably already doing it wrong.
>>135627436
>Not like you can have her literally from the start from the easily obtainable family bonus.
I covered the bonuses already, commander comparison is fucking pointless when I can start the game with Omachi and the Takeda Generals.
>uh huh, so you're one of those people who would kick Kenshin out of the roster because she can't be cleared and get End Game Point bonus (aka people with autism).
No, you mentioned SAT and fapping. Kenshin isn't relevant here. As for the fapping part, commander comparison is also irrelevant, if you're into the gameplay enough to do this type of optimisation, you'll keep that shit to CG mode, which doesn't effect Yoshi.
As for the threesome, you're implying that you'd actually go out of your way to capture Kiku and therefore somehow have the time to do it. Are you a savescummer, or do you just always play on KTM? If the prior, fuck off, commander comparison doesn't matter if you're savescumming, if the later, then I also don't care - in KTM you've got all the time in the world to make your party gamebreaking, I'll gladly sit on 25 Battle Rating Down Tacticians rather than consider Teru vs Yoshi.
>female commander defection.
In KTM, you've got to beat Shimazu sooner or later so there's no effective cost and you can just recruit a bunch of generic girls anyway, in Ran, it doesn't matter who you lose since your commanders don't fucking matter. But I will concede that you've proved that Yoshi has a cost that Teru doesn't. I will however hold that the cost is meaningless.
>>135627723
>Oh shit, I still have to get the 5 points from both Kenshin and Ran route as well.
>Never done Ran, is it that easy?
Ran is piss easy, once you're on the route, you've barely got any reason to do army combat, it's like 30 turns of shit story and fapping, with an easy boss at the end.
>>135630282
>Dude, this is literally an impossible argument to use in the same universe where you want to prove Shimazu are useful.
Why? Because I'm forced to lose a commander to recruit the Shimazus?
>>135630459
>If you attack footsoldiers with you warriors you are probably already doing it wrong.
True, but what else am I going to do? You can't insta-kill her, and your %-based attacks aren't going to cut it either.
Anyway guys, got to go for now, no idea when I'll be back.
>>135630959
Well fuck. I suppose that explains why it's suggested as the first point run.
If I'm aiming for maximum points, I can't take the one-eye house bonus, so I can throw 40 at Takeda, get the action fan, and figure it out from there.
I'm terrible when it comes to character clears because of poor action fan management, but I suppose they're one of the most important things when it comes to points runs.
I just realized that there is actually an haruka ova
Is it any good or should I just stick to the game
>>135631689
The source material isn't very good so I doubt an adaption would be good.
>>135629989
>Break Ashikaga's gourd.
Why?
>Pretty sure that Oda's gourd needs to snap for you to war Tangeashima (unless you're taking bonuses).
>>Any time after their introduction, you can declare war on them for 16 Neg.
>War Akashi, beat them without permits for a great waste of time and little reward.
Literally why would you ever bother to kill them before permits? Always nice to have a steady supply of babymeat for the fridge, for when ITZ comes.
t. Cleve
It's like you're assuming that everyone has to play the game in a preset manner / follow some guide to get the most...no idea what exactly to be honest, I see no coherence in the path you set up there at all.
>>135630823
>I covered the bonuses already, commander comparison is fucking pointless when I can start the game with Omachi and the Takeda Generals.
Except Mouri's family bonus is the most useful one of those that you can get without reading a guide and / or tons of metagaming. It's going to be extremely painful for you to try to get some of the more difficult bonuses / rewards without using them as a bonus from the start if you ask me.
>I'll gladly sit on 25 Battle Rating Down Tacticians rather than consider Teru vs Yoshi.
Yep, definitely the Kenshin kicker -type player. Shame on you.
>>135631224
>Because I'm forced to lose a commander to recruit the Shimazus?
Yes? Like that's a 100% certainty, while you can realistically not lose a single commander even while getting Yuzumi on "ironman" mode. Shimazus are going to assassinate any 1 female commander other than the heroin and Suzume. Contary to popular belief, recruiting some random no name femme form prison doesn't mean that Shimazu will steal her from you. There's a chance for them to steal any girl in the game, even the ones above the Trust threshold. And the turn when they steal your girl is also random. Gonna take whole lot more savescumming here than 'savescumming' by reloading when a kawaii shoujo -type commander is killed in a battle.
>>135631689
I don't think any of Alicesoft's adaptations can be considered good.
Maybe the first Rance OVA and Tsumashibori? The first didn't take itself seriously and the latter seems to have more episodes than the usual adaptations.
>>135631689
The only ones I liked were the old rance ova and daiakuji
>>135632683
>The first didn't take itself seriously and the latter seems to have more episodes than the usual adaptations.
Thats what the old rance games were though? They didn't take itself seriously and the OVA was a perfect mix of sex and humor just like the games
>>135631689
When the game is pretty bad, I can't imagine the OVA would be any different.
Polished turd, etc.
>>135633131
Exactly, hence why it's so great.
Who's been doing the art for 01, and 03 by the way? I think someone said Gyokai. I really like the art.
>>135639667
he is and it is
>>135639667
Yeah, it's Gyokai. He does his own colouring for the CGs too, if I got it right. Or that could just be for his own doujinshi only.
Page 10. We had such good streak. Let's not break it up.
>>135640021
>>135639958
From what I've seen of Rance IX, I can't tell if I like Gyokai or Orion more. They're both great.
>>135642243
Orion for the manly men and mature women and gyokai for the girls
>>135640021
The CGs on the two Rance he did. He draws very quickly, so he has the time to color it himself.
>>135632350
>Break Ashikaga's gourd.
>Why?
Because how else are you gonna get a border with Mouri? Are you seriously gonna take Kyo and let the oil field stand?
>>Any time after their introduction, you can declare war on them for 16 Neg.
Good luck getting them intro'd before Oda's gourd has broke. Particularly without bonuses.
>Literally why would you ever bother to kill them before permits? Always nice to have a steady supply of babymeat for the fridge, for when ITZ comes.
So you're gonna let them and Ashikaga live, while simultaneously battling Takuga and Mouri? Sure, that's possible if you're using bonuses, but without you're letting Akashi hang around until what, turn 60 something?
>It's like you're assuming that everyone has to play the game in a preset manner / follow some guide to get the most...no idea what exactly to be honest, I see no coherence in the path you set up there at all.
I think the difference between us is that I'm assuming no bonuses. As I've said many times, a commander comparison argument is a waste of time if you're using bonuses.
>Except Mouri's family bonus is the most useful one of those that you can get without reading a guide and / or tons of metagaming. It's going to be extremely painful for you to try to get some of the more difficult bonuses / rewards without using them as a bonus from the start if you ask me.
You're making an anti-metagaming argument while in a commander comparison debate. That's self defeating.
>Yep, definitely the Kenshin kicker -type player. Shame on you.
Kenshin always has her uses. I'm just trying to demonstrate that KTM hardly matters either.
As for the losing a commander stuff, I think we're missing each other's points. I'm not trying to prove that the Shimazus are useful. I'm trying to prove that both Teru and Yoshi are almost equally worthless, but that Yoshi is slightly better than Teru.
They're both shit, but Yoshi is the least shit.
>>135644963
That's a good way of putting it. Orion's Sen in IX looks amazing.
>>135646480
>Are you seriously gonna take Kyo and let the oil field stand?
What's the problem with that?
>Good luck getting them intro'd before Oda's gourd has broke. Particularly without bonuses.
How's the Oda gourd relevant to their intro? I'm pretty sure intros trigger by your vicinity to the house, just like with Takuga if you go there ASAP.
>So you're gonna let them and Ashikaga live, while simultaneously battling Takuga and Mouri?
You need to simultaneously battle them why exactly?
It's like you keep making up all these "oh my god how dare you play a different way than what I think is the proper way" rules at the spot.
>You're making an anti-metagaming argument while in a commander comparison debate.
It's not anti-metagaming, you literally can only unlock the One Eyed House other than Mouri on your first run.
>Teru and Yoshi are almost equally worthless
Ah yes, that's definitely true. Foot Soldiers are worthless trash when you can just reload every turn for three months until you get a full roster of Taticians with Battle Rating Down 2.
Should have read ^ first, what a waste of time...
I'm having a minor issue with Beat Blades Haruka - it plays fine and sounds fine but fails to start movies.
I tried uninstalling old codecs like CCCP before reinstalling included Xiph-Open Codecs, and got Update4 from mangagamer blog, but it didn't help.
Win7x64
Is it a known issue?
>>135647743
>What's the problem with that?
Needless added difficulty.
>How's the Oda gourd relevant to their intro? I'm pretty sure intros trigger by your vicinity to the house, just like with Takuga if you go there ASAP.
The events that happen have priorities to them, provided that you're not taking bonuses, introductions will be pushed back by stuff like the plot happening, hence why I find it unlikely that you can get the intro to trigger prior to Oda's gourd breaking.
>You need to simultaneously battle them why exactly?
Because unless I'm mistaken, that's what you've said. You're not breaking their gourd, and you're attacking Mouri, how else can this end other than a three way battle?
>It's not anti-metagaming, you literally can only unlock the One Eyed House other than Mouri on your first run.
I don't understand what you're saying. Like, I'm not trying to refute your point or anything, I genuinely don't understand what you've just said.
>Ah yes, that's definitely true. Foot Soldiers are worthless trash when you can just reload every turn for three months until you get a full roster of Taticians with Battle Rating Down 2.
For fuck sake go back to the first post I made on this >>135622279. My whole point is that THESE TWO UNITS are equally worthless because depending on route, you either get them so late that you've almost won, or you get them in a route where you've got so much time that you can make a gamebreaking army and your choice of unit hardly matters. It's not hard to make a broken team in KTM.
>>135648824
It's not needless added difficulty unless you're playing on something like 5 star with 0 bonuses or something. For me it's always normal to keep a house or two alive to attack me all the time for a constant supply of generic prisoners to release. Akashi and Ashikaga are so shit you could probably farm them even on 5 star to be desu.
I don't have Sengoku Rance installed at the moment so I can't check but I'm quite sure you can get Tanegashima intro before the gourd is broken.
There's a pretty big time gap before Takuga declare war on you, and it can be extended as well if it bothers you so much.
You can only unlock Mouri and the Yokai house as bonuses on your first run.
Teru is only "worthless" because you specifically get her too late. Yoshihisa is worthless yes, because you can only get him at a too late time. That's the main difference between them that you refuse to acknowledge and pretend that you get Yoshihisa almost at the same time after you get Teru. I don't even dare imagine what Foot Soldier you think is not worthless. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you said Nogiku or Madea Goes To Jail.
>>135628989
Dragon master race
>>135629030
/ss/ master race
>>135613424
>>135613585
It's worth a play. Some of the scenes feel like they drag a bit but whatever overall it's been pretty fun.
>>135642243
>>135644963
>>135646808
Just look at Sen here
>>135648779
MG should have released a patch for it
>>135650128
>It's not needless added difficulty unless you're playing on something like 5 star with 0 bonuses or something.
Uhh, not him, but isn't that what he's been saying for the last couple of posts?
>>135652869
That girl on the left looks amazing.
>>135653869
Monster hunter reference the character
>>135653869
Arms Arc?
Fortunately she's guaranteed an appearance in X
She was also quite popular so might be a fated girl
>>135652883
>Uhh, not him, but isn't that what he's been saying for the last couple of posts?
Nope.
>>135654445
Oh damn, she's from Quest, huh?
Gonna be a while before I get there, damn.
>>135650128
>It's not needless added difficulty unless you're playing on something like 5 star with 0 bonuses or something.
This anon >>135652641 covered it.
>There's a pretty big time gap before Takuga declare war on you, and it can be extended as well if it bothers you so much.
That time doesn't count for much on a no/low bonus run.
>You can only unlock Mouri and the Yokai house as bonuses on your first run.
That's plain and simply wrong.
>Teru is only "worthless" because you specifically get her too late. Yoshihisa is worthless yes, because you can only get him at a too late time. That's the main difference between them that you refuse to acknowledge and pretend that you get Yoshihisa almost at the same time after you get Teru.
My points only hold in low/no bonus, and your counter only works outside of that framework.
For reference, taking ANY extra commanders significantly reduced the difficulty of the game. Most people don't believe that. I didn't either when I was first told it. If you want I'll justify it, but I'm probably going to bed in less than half an hour.
For completion, I'll repeat myself.
1) If you're playing the game in such a way the difficulty is minimal, such as taking any bonuses that significantly reduce the difficulty, then commander comparison is a waste of time.
2) If you're playing the game in such a way that difficulty matters, then I do not believe that you can, without needlessly increasing the difficulty of the game by taking a sub-optimal route, create a significant enough time gap between recruiting Teru or Yoshi and the end of the game.
3) It therefore follows, that as both Teru and Yoshi come a short amount of time before the end of the game, that they're almost equally worthless.
4) As they're equally worthless, I can only compare them in stats, and therefore Yoshi is better than Teru in any situation that matters. All other situations lack enough difficulty for any comparison to be worthwhile.
>>135655525
>This anon >>135652641 covered it.
DraQ from RPGCodex?
>>135655629
Weird, I sware I clicked on the right one... I was aiming for >>135652883
>>135655525
>That's plain and simply wrong.
Ok in theory, you can unlock Takeda on your first run too, but that's taking savescumming to a whole new level.
>My points only hold in low/no bonus, and your counter only works outside of that framework.
Outside of the framework of going 5 star with zero bonuses, which is an ultra-niche appeal type of playing the game? And to be honest with you, if I were to play that, that's the one situation where I'd definitely go West before my anus starts getting fisted by Takeda.
>>135656258
Don't the Takeda generals always suicide on your first run?
>>135656608
Yes, they do. But if you're a SupercoolGuy who reads all the guides before playing, then you can just save afterwards and reload to an earlier save and do it the Shingen way.
>>135656608
No? Where did you get that?
Only Sounn sort of suicides on first run and that's if you took Uesugi first.
>>135656828
Ah, Ignore>>135656895. You meant when you conquer them, my bad.
>>135656258
>Ok in theory, you can unlock Takeda on your first run too, but that's taking savescumming to a whole new level.
Dude, you can unlock everyone on any run you want, I got Mouri, One-Eye and Takeda on like my 5th playthrough. The only ones that you might not be able to get on a 1st run are the Takeda generals, some say you need to have beat Takeda by the normal method on a previous save (not necessarily a different run) to get them via the blitz. I never bothered to test that, it's one of my few remaining nitpicks for the wiki.
>Outside of the framework of going 5 star with zero bonuses, which is an ultra-niche appeal type of playing the game?
Please explain to me why difficulty, and hence commander comparison matters when you're playing anything other than no/low bonus.
>that's the one situation where I'd definitely go West before my anus starts getting fisted by Takeda.
You clearly have no fucking clue how to beat Takeda.
Firstly, here's the proof that I know what I'm talking about. Tourin is recruited here (a no bonus run) >>135621561.
To beat Takeda when your army is top fucking tier, all you have to fucking do is blitz them before they blitz you - the generals don't appear until like 3 or 4 turns into the war. So you can conquer them completely without ever fighting them. You only need to grab Shinato and Kai to take everything from them.
>>135657212
>Dude, you can unlock everyone on any run you want, I got Mouri, One-Eye and Takeda on like my 5th playthrough. The only ones that you might not be able to get on a 1st run are the Takeda generals, some say you need to have beat Takeda by the normal method on a previous save (not necessarily a different run) to get them via the blitz. I never bothered to test that, it's one of my few remaining nitpicks for the wiki.
>being this detached from reality
hello? you literally cannot enter any route other than True on your first run, so you obviously can't unlock Kenshin and Hojo family bonuses
>Please explain to me why difficulty, and hence commander comparison matters when you're playing anything other than no/low bonus.
Most people play 5 star because of the extra score. If you don't play it with all the bonuses you have unlocked, then you're just lowering the score you're gonna get from the 5 star as a reward.
Personally, I don't believe that you have to even use 5 star at all for the max points for unlocking, I'm pretty sure I did it on the 2 star run thanks to having Yokai and Mouri house unlocked (right after my 0 star True route first run).
>You clearly have no fucking clue how to beat Takeda.
Ok and how are you going to attack them more than twice per turn with your no bonus 5 star run. I assume I should take reloading whenever bad things happen on the defense turn for granted.
Anyway, this is gonna be my last post (if at all) since I just filled out the captcha 10 times in row correctly and it's still giving me more.
>>135657212
I got Takeda on my second run, because everyone in the general recommended unlocking them as soon as possible.
Now I have 71 points and want to use them, but I'm so limited by points I can barely justify it.
>Tfw you're bad at point runs
>>135658225
Why barely justify it? 71 points is plenty, if you have the Takeda and Mouri, you can now pretty much get 200+ points if you pick a good route for your 3rd run (on 2-star).
>>135658115
>can't unlock Kenshin and Hojo family bonuses
Ok, you got me there, but you were wrong with regards to the others.
>Most people play 5 star because of the extra score. If you don't play it with all the bonuses you have unlocked, then you're just lowering the score you're gonna get from the 5 star as a reward.
Bullshit, any sensible person does 5 Star Ran twice for all the points they need (1 to get the points to use most of the bonuses and then another the get more points with all of their bonuses).
>Ok and how are you going to attack them more than twice per turn with your no bonus 5 star run.
Kai is 3 territories. Shinato is 4. Both don't have any castles.
I forget how many turns I have before the generals come, say I've got 3.
If I'm attacking Takeda, I've obviously beat Uesugi and the Miko Institute and hence also obviously have 3 fans and a pretty good army.
Turn 1: Declare war, attack Shinato twice. Defend with remaining force.
Turn 2: Take Shinato. You don't even need to defend this turn since they're not gonna steal Shinato from you in one turn.
Turn 3: If I take Kai, I don't need to defend this turn. All out fucking attack on Kai.
Done.
>>135658225
Fuck around and beat Kenshin and Ran for fun, then beat 5 Star Ran twice (as I've said above in this post) and then you're set.
>>135659130
>Ok, you got me there, but you were wrong with regards to the others.
>the others
Aka Takeda, which was the one house you had doubts about too... impressive.
>Bullshit, any sensible person does 5 Star Ran twice for all the points they need
Or you could do 2 Star (Kenshin, I think?) once, it got me all the points I ever needed...
>>135659337
Still trying to figure out my plan for the Ran run. I have no idea how the route works, so I'm just trying to get a loose plan going.
>>135658653
Takeda eats 40 points, and I still need the action fan, battle permits, triple NP +3, and a few other items. I'd like to spring for some of the additional characters as well.
First part of
>>135659593
Was for
>>135659130
>>135659593
Well is it spring already? Not sure if the game changes in March already or they wait for tomorrow (Sunday in Britain).
>>135659593
>Still trying to figure out my plan for the Ran run. I have no idea how the route works, so I'm just trying to get a loose plan going.
No plan required, go read the wiki if you're stuck. Take some bonuses, capture Ran and get on her route, that's all the plan you need.
Honestly just have fun with it, once you've done Ran a couple of times for points, you'll probably have no desire to play it again.
>>135660230
Oh, gotcha. I suppose there's no need to move West on Ran route, is there?
>>135660491
Yes and no. There's no need to go their strictly for beating the route, but if you don't go that way, the Shimazu house will start absorbing places and causing you problems. To be honest, you won't have much better to do during the route anyway, so you might as well beat them. Go get the Mouri foursome while you're at it. You really do have nothing better to do in the Ran route.
>>135660810
Well shit, then. I might have a loose plan of how to do this going. Still haven't thought about what units I want, or EGP + clears.
Hmm. Just need an order I want to conquer in. Maybe Hara -> Ashikaga -> Tokugawa -> Tanegashima for my start.
>>135660810
I'm gonna go off now, so good night /haniho/ I enjoyed my visit...good to know my SR knowledge is still handy. I'll lurk this thread until it dies, but then I really have to get back to my work.
>>135661245
Just fuck around for the first run through, you're only after enough points to make your second run a good enough one to cover all the points you'll ever realistically want. My only real recommendation is to decide how you're gonna fap, you've got a lot of h-scenes ahead.
If you can't think of anything then I dare you to edge from the start of the game until the Mouri foursome, that'll be a challenge wank (that being said, I remember there was an SR femanon here, a little while back, so sorry if I just dared you to do something non-optimal for your fapping needs).
As for conquer order, Ran can be a bitch to capture, and you've got to wait out her events, I'd say just go all out and charge Hojou as fast as you can. It makes a nice change from most people's usual Uesugi rush.
>>135661857
Alright, I'll just give it a blind run then, I suppose.
>>135506272
>just like Rick doesn't deserve Leila or Maris.
I think you spelled something wrong there because it should be the other way around, neither Leila nor Maris deserve Rick.
>>135666696
You mean, Leila doesn't deserve Rick.
Maris does. The only ones here not worthy of Maris are the random politicans she fucks for Lia's sake.
>>135668029
That's pretty much it, anyone that would actually love Maris is pretty worthy of her.
>>135668029
>Maris does.
No she doesn't, you said it yourself. She's a slut that sleeps with countless men for political power, she doesn't deserve a pure and honorable knight like Rick.
>>135668513
No. She sleeps with man for the sake of Queen and country
>>135668920
Still makes her a slut and not worthy of Rick, she also helped Lia kidnapp and torture innocent girls.
>>135668920
So, she's a whore instead of a slut.
If that makes her better for you, go with it. I expect you to refer to her as a whore from now on though.
>>135668513
She sleeps with men for Lia's sake.
You think Rick wouldn't sleep with women(or men) for the sake of his country(his greatest love) if he had to?
>>135669124
He would not whore himself out, no.
Is this the thread for princess trainer, new update?
If not please point me in the right direction.
I'm doing to quest to give Lola her dress, but I can't find her.
wut do
>>135669787
Try /hgg/
>>135669787
wot
Why would you think it was here?
An outsider found our secret edgy rape club. That shouldn't be possible.
My kind of Prince trainer
>>135669787
What's up with all these people coming here looking for /hgg/ and going there to look for this thread?
>>135671045
To be fair it's not that crazy to ask in /hgg/ about Alicesoft/Rance if you didn't notice this thread.
>>135671045
Maybe cause of the op pic.
From all the Rance games, which ones comes with the most extra merchandise? I'm planning on getting one of them soon.
>>135671991
None of them now. The merchandise is pre-order bonuses.
You have to buy them separately now
>>135672207
That's a pity. Is that merchandise hrad to get in Japan? For example in Akihabara.
>>135670938
I'm kind of mad neither of those girls get proper ends. I really like both of them.
>>135671394
Probably but people should still read the subject.
It's nice to have some non Rance OPs every now and then anyway
This is probably the first* and last Drapeko OP we get.
*We might have had a Kuu OP back when evenicle was announced
>>135668513
>>135668920
She used to do so, Now that Lia's in power I wonder what happened to those men.
>>135672356
The wallscrolls would have to be bought second hand but there is plenty of Alicesoft merchandise out there
I've never been to Japan so I wouldn't really know how to get things there
>>135672446
Might need them to pass some laws are whatever.
I'm not fussed. Maris has never been a pure girl but that's never been her appeal.
>>135672736
Lia has absolute power in Leazas, everybody who opposes her is dealt with via political assassination or just normal assassination
>>135672356
Aside from really rare stuff like the elusive Shizuka puppet and legendary Hanny tie, you can find most merchandise on Mandarake usually.
>>135672983
Or through other means.
>>135673067
There's a Hanny tie?
I need this.
>>135672736
It's been a long time so I don't remember the exact details, but didn't Lia basically overthrow her parents?
>>135673206
Scout around Yahoo Auctions for the next decade and you may be graced by it's presence.
>>135673232
They abdicated sometime around the time of the Rance 03 epilogue.
>>135672736
They make it very apparent in the latter half of the series that Lia is in complete control of Leazas with no opposition, The nobles dare not piss her off or she'll kill them all and Barres is very loyal to the royal line
>>135673232
Yes, after the events of 03/III. Nobody would oppose her in doing so as well because the nobles were in the shit because some of them betrayed the royal family and the army was in complete support of Lia taking over.
>>135673515
A large part of the complete control would be popularity
>>135673515
I'm pretty sure the opposing nobles either were completely wiped after the failed attempt during her coronation, or they just gave up.
>>135673719
IIRC They are mentioned offhandedly in Quest so they are still around, Lia just keeps them on a very tight leash and removes any member that oversteps their bounds
>>135673607
Lia is apparently loved by the public and the members of the army so there's no problem there
>>135673910
Of course she's loved. She's a 10/10 cutie with an outstanding government skill.
The only good reasons to hate her are not known by the common populace.
>>135673607
Because most people don't know what a sick fuck she is. I remember all the coverup that went on in Rance 1. She's a psycho, but the people don't know that.
>>135674292
Rance should have punished her even more, surely the hyper weapon sets women on the correct path.
>>135674292
Having a S&M fetish is grounds to be called a sick fuck? Quite frankly Lia is very tame compared to most of the other leading parties on the conteinet
>>135674258
Probably helps that Lia herself also marches with the Leazas army whenever they go to take over other countries
>>135674292
>listening to Helman propaganda
>>135674520
You don't remember her killing girls for her pleasure? That's not a simple s&m fetish.
I like her, but she's not right in the head. And even those protecting her know she's fucked up.
>>135674787
Lavender committed suicide.
Lia has also massively improved since then
>>135674787
Yeah, because Stessel is so sane.
>>135674910
She still drove the poor girl to it. Her cruelty was/is ridiculous.
>>135674787
>You don't remember her killing girls for her pleasure?
I sure do, I also remember her stating that she didn't want to kill them at all and they their deals with accidents. It also helps that it was only a handful of girls. Also helps that she actually stops when Rance tells her to
Don't even get me started on the shit the Zeth council + family member and the Helman council do for fun.
>>135675043
deaths were**
This chapter seems longer than the Kuu/Toru one.
Hoping one of the sex scenes is an Alma one
>>135675551
So yeah Sharl returns to her job as a maid immediately after Est becomes King
>>135675551
Just fuck already
>>135675883
And then she kisses Est's forehead and Est kisses her back and Sharl is just staring like "what the fuck?" while Est's old retainer (Mario) is relieved that Alma and Est are getting on again.
And then Alma happily skips away somewhere else and Mario reminds Sharl to continue with her night time duties because Est needs heirs
>>135676769
Haha
>>135674787
Her intention wasn't for them to die, although the extreme of what she have done did cause it. I do agree it's not just a fetish,because she did kidnap girls and forced them thought it against their wishes. So still pretty sick.
Finally playing 03 after a large amount of setbacks.
Odd question about this picture, I don't quite understand it.
"Maris, brew some tea. I doubt we'll be able to have some for quite some time."
I don't understand the last sentence very well, though. Something asking(?) how much longer the bodyguards can endure.
>>135678812
>Pulptenks that low
Heresy.
Leazas has too many good characters, though.
>>135679386
Meant for >>135679272
Goddamnit, I really need to proofread more.
>>135679386
Pluptenks would rank higher if you were able to vote for more than one person, it's just almost every bodies favorite is Lia/Maris/Rick. Same thing for Seizel in this poll
>>135679386
At least half of /haniho/ has never played 01 and it's a one vote thing
>>135681589
I suppose that's true.
Not yet, /haniho/. Don't die yet.
I'm still waiting for someone to help me with my stupid question >>135678812Well, that and I love this general.
>>135686597
If I knew Japanese, I would have helped you. So I can't do much beside try to prevent /haniho/ death.
>>135687232
No worries anon, there's a lot of really helpful anons that do know Japanese kicking around.
Was also just giving a quick bump.
The good ol' days.
>>135686597
I'm pretty sure it's that the bodyguards will buy them enough time (to have that tea)
>>135689710
I see, appreciate it anon.
That seems to be in-line with what I got from asking a few other people. くらい kills me, it seems to have a crazy amount of uses. The も also threw me off, as it didn't really seem like it belonged there.
Jeez, 4 of the best girls from Leazas have already shown up.
Who am I kidding, most of the girls from Leazas are best girls.
She has some good ideas
>>135691119
Well I've finished all the love events
I'm hoping this sex scene might be Alma
>Sharl offers Est a lap pillow and ear cleaning
Alma gets mad
>>135691841
Desire to play rising
>>135691841
Can she make faces other than bitchy ones?
>>135691949
She starts an argument that things like lap pillows should be done by family and not be maids
>>135692237
Haha, brocon antics are great. Especially if the sister is older
>>135692114
Yes
I just tend to take screenshots of when she's jealous of someone stealing her Est
Damn, Aizel (I dunno, makes more sense to make than Ithere) sure popped up early.
The Kanji used for Dark Lords/Demon Lords is weird - to my poor Japanese is doesn't seem to imply lordship at all.
>>135692635
It's just Majin.
>>135692635
Just use Aizel, Ithere is just another case of bad romanization
>>135692635
Majin
Probably the same kanji they used for Majin Buu in Dragonball Z
I prefer Demon to Dark Lord anyway.
>>135692635
It doesn't seem to*
>>135692732
That's what I thought - doesn't that just imply a humanoid demon?
>>135692960
Yeah, but Alicesoft translated it as Dark Lord, so everyone just rolls with it.
>>135692635
I prefer demon, works better with the Maou title
>>135691841
They're building up Kuu as the villain of this chapter but I doubt it.
Also the Phoenix has been mentioned too many times during the game to not get involved.
Neve's dead in this route so she obviously can't be the villain so I'm banking on it being the phoenix
>>135693082
>>135692936
Just from experiencing it first hand now, I much prefer Demon as well.
>>135693010
So, it's just a case of bad translation?
>>135693010
Alicesoft translate all sorts of rubbish though like Milacle and Vampire of the Blood Pool.
>>135693214
Yeah, but I'm used to Dark Lord and I don't really care, so I just call it that.
>>135693214
Not really, just a stylisation choice. Nonsense like Vampire of the Blood Pool should actively be ignored though
>>135692635
>to my poor Japanese is doesn't seem to imply lordship at all.
Cause it doesn't. They are the servants of the demon lord anyway.
>>135693291
It just confuses me a bit. As I've already said, I'm bad at Japanese - but I don't see anything that implies lordship in their title.
How is this a bad end?
>>135693473
What am I looking at?
>>135693464
I'm with you on that. It's easier to think Demons and then Demon King/Lord unless there were lesser demons in which case that may be acceptable.
>>135693548
It's a bad end where Est is trying to get Sauce to take off her costume and Alma (who is randomly in his bedroom) overhears and thinks that Est wants Sauce to get naked and then after asking Est if he likes naked women decides to introduce a law making it a requirement for all women to be naked.
>>135693464
Don't expect translations to ever be able to match all the connotations of a word.
>>135693681
>introduce a law making it a requirement for all women to be naked.
Which it looks like she actively ignores herself
My dick
Somehow she's so much hotter like this than in her strippers clothes
>>135693654
That's exactly my line of thought, it makes a lot more sense. Oh well, it's not a huge deal - just a bit irksome now that I've seen the legitimate name for them.
I'm not a translator and I probably won't be for awhile (if ever), but to me it makes more sense to have Demons and then the Demon King/Lord at the top, especially from a comprehensibility point of view.
>>135693753
She just decided on that law that second.
>>135694038
Like this
>>135694038
You don't need to agree with everything the original creator says. Stuffs like Ria or Leira are weird or hell, even Satella apostle new names are too weird.
Sure, you can ask the creator if you're uncertain like what happened with Umineko ep. 7, but sometime you get stuffs like Akame ga Kill which are really odd.
>>135694530
>even Satella apostle new names are too weird.
Doesn't really matter in that case as she calls them by the original names anyway,
>>135694668
True, though I wonder what goes on in their minds to come up with names like those despite saying the original names.
>>135694421
Neat, I like it.
>>135694530
I suppose that`s true, especially in the case of a Japanese company and their romanizations - especially when they don`t seem to make sense.
>>135694530
>>135694668
>>135694779
My guess is that G1-The C is the code name Satella gave Caesar with G1 meaning Golem 1 and Caesar is the nickname.
>>135694905
Obviously but the choice of THE C and ISC is odd.
>>135695145
Someone needs to translate that page
>>135669528
>He would not whore himself out, no.
He does exactly that in KR tough
Two bad ends or an orgy
And looks like Alma sex can only be accessed in chapter 1
I can`t imagine it takes Rance long to get Chaos in 03, judging off of how early he`s namedropped.
>>135695145
This page truly encompasses Rance and Kanami's relationship when Kanami just stopped being tsun and went full dere in IX. And it is damn beautiful.
What a great hero.
>>135696802
Basically Sauce and Sekiei are angry with Sharl because Est is fucking Sharl every day so there is big fight between those three and Mary.
You have to choose what to do.
One of the choices is to call for help so nee-san comes to help (after knocking out all the knights that were coming to help Est) an decides to arbitrate by telling the girls that the woman who should attend to Est at night is the one who loves him the most
>>135696827
You get Chaos in the end game.
>>135696802
>Alma sex can only be accessed in chapter 1
As expected
>>135697098
That's disappointing, damn. I was hoping for more time for their stupid banter.
>>135697047
And that can only be decided by who has bought the most merchandise of Est.
Sharl has nothing because she thinks it's garbage, Sauce and Mary both have one Est handkerchief.
And Alma's panties are made up of Est handkerchiefs stitched together and she has another 100 pieces in her room
>>135697181
Don't worry, Chaos talks quite a bit once you get him and in a voice you might not be expecting.
>>135697205
Hahaha, sasuga
>>135697181
There is plenty of it
>>135697205
Sekiei pulls out her trump card which is a stuffed toy version of Est which was so unpopular that only three were ever sold.
But Alma has the other two which she keeps with her at all times - wrapped in plastic bags in her stomach
>>135697361
What the fuck?
>>135697526
And Est spends the rest of his life loving his sister.
How is this a bad end?
>>135697459
We're talking about the same girl who led a coup so that she could turn her brother back into a shota who only loved his neesan and nobody else.
Is it Kanami bullying time?
>>135697661
Rance 03 is nonstop Kanami bullying. Even the Menad sex scene is Kanami bullying.
It's great
>>135697636
>How is this a bad end?
Alicesoft seems to think that spending time with Alma is bad. Looks like Drapeko is next on my list, I can't ignore a character like Alma. Is the gameplay bearable?
>>135697661
It's always Kanami bullying time
>>135697768
It's pretty much just a VN but like this >>135696802
There are no saves but you can go back and pick any of those events you have already accessed.
You gain exp from bad ends. It's pretty funny and Kuu is pretty good but Alma really has stolen the show for me even though she basically doesn't appear in chapters 2 to 5 and you only see the brocon side later on
It's worth a read.
There are a few battles but only the Alma battle in chapter 1 is hard.
There appear to be two good Alma ends - one where you win the battle and the other when you have completed all the main heroine endings.
I'm going to consider the latter the true ending of the game
I think ALICEMAN has the best voice acting I've ever heard.
Looks like daddy is the villain of this route. And as I expected he used the Phoenix.
>>135698862
and what's his nonsensical plan?
>>135699018
To make dragon valley great again. Reinstate human experimentation/cut welfare for the unemployed etc
Like Neve in the other route he's a fairly conventional villain.
He remembers Alma killing him but I suspect he forgot a lot of stuff he learned after that when living in the lower levels.
>>135698534
>the return of TADA.jpg
Oh, you have no idea.
>>135699265
>He remembers Alma killing him
Uhhh what?
>>135699265
Did the Phoenix bring him back to life?
>>135699384
Alma killed him in the past. However he had something going on with Kuu's 'mother' and had been given a magic item which revived him.
Kuu gives Est something similar and it comes up in a few bad ends but always comically fucks up
He didn't care about his wife and kids at all which is why Alma and Est heavily depended on each other as children
>>135699560
I'm surprised a piece of shit like that exists in a comedic eroge
>>135699629
He's actually a decent guy in the other routes. But that backstory is there to explain why Alma and Est are brocons/sistercons
>>135699768
>He's actually a decent guy in the other routes
If he was planning to pull off the same thing in the other routes but failed without other people noticing then I stand by my comment
And this is apparently another 'bad' end
>>135699830
He wasn't. In fact the dragon trial involves 7 dragon balls which are sent to people and the person undertaking the trial has to solve that persons 'problem' and his problem was resolved when Est became man enough to become King and to lead his sister back to the right path.
But in this route Toru defeats Alma before Est can even gain the resolve to fight her so Est never got tested.
I also think the Phoenix is involved.
>>135699889
It's a great end
>>135700203
Fair enough, I'll take the comment back then
>>135700203
Yeah.
Est is really pissed off that he can't stop his father and then realises that he happens to be standing in front of his sisters room.
Like he always did as a kid he goes to see her to get comforted.
Alma then decides to get Est and run away from the country with him after she gets horrified by the thought of him growing up to be like their father.
Kuu and Angela try to stop her but she beats Kuu in one hit and escapes with Est to another kingdom where she begins to spread the world truth of Younger Brother Love
>>135700480
So her best girl spot is unopposed at this point?
>>135700638
Yeah. I didn't think it was possible to beat Kuu but she did.
Looks like we get to fight daddy.
Which based on the other route tells me he isn't the real final boss of this route and he's just getting manipulated by the Phoenix
>>135701158
Soon.
>>135701413
It won't live up to the glory of the original
>>135690029
Kurai have many amount of uses? Like what? At least right now only one meaning comes to mind, which is "that/this amount".
>>135701379
>Weaker than chapter 1 Alma
>>135701612
will be voiced though
>>135702297
>>135701379
If you lose Alma fights him in your place. And he knows he can't defeat Alma.
So he announces that if he becomes King he'll make incest legal
>>135693258
Milacle is very like intended. Like how Rance is Rance and not Lance.
>>135693654
There kinda are. The monsters are 魔物. But then they are also called monsters, so we don't tend to think of that. But that's why the monsters also are servants of the Demon King, they're all part of the same group.
>>135702482
>Milacle is very like intended
Just like Siera and Tillday? I'm going to stick with Miracle because it fits her perfectly
>>135702297
And as expected it appears he just wanted to be an obstacle to makes sure that Est wasn't a naive ruler who was unable to shoulder difficult tasks
>>135696827
In original III it's also revealed pretty quickly, when Kanami meets Rance she says that they need the tree to use the power of chaos, whatever that is. Which Rance concludes it's likely a hot woman.
>>135702740
Yeah. Losing to Est resolved his dragonball.
>>135702556
>魔物
Not all of those serve the demon king
>>135702750
>Which Rance concludes it's likely a hot woman.
Rance forgets what Chaos is later in 03 and comes to the same conculsion
>>135702834
They don't serve the demon king only in the sense that some dark lords don't serve the demon king but just stay somewhere away from them doing their own thing.
Now the things is that when it comes to monsters, there are many species treated as such by humans, but which actually aren't. Like the old protagonists races, mushi, constructs, devils, etc.
I did it, guys.
>>135702441
So why doesn't Alma just beat him and change the law herself?
>>135703159
Now that she's not influenced by Neve she's probably not crazy enough to legalise incest herself.
Plus it's a comedic bad end
Fully leveled.
>>135703072
What are those things on her head? Metroids?
Yeah Sauce has grown on me
>>135703761
Puryos (I forget the spelling).
These monsters that Kanami fights here
Patty's sister also wears them
>>135704725
Kill Angela
Burn Angela
Destroy Angela
What's the difference between quest and quest magnum? I know it has additional quests, but is the storyline different? Is simple quest still somewhere in the continuity, and magnum just continues it, or magnum replaced it, and is now the only canonical and "right" version or quest?
The only good soldiers in SR are the generic foot soldiers with All Guard and 9 Def / 9 Int that I capture at the start, to be honest.
She's better as an adult
>>135705519
The end of Quest is retconned but the rest is canon.
Magnum continues from Quest's plotline and adds a lot more plot.
It also fixes the gameplay.
>>135705774
> It also fixes the gameplay.
What was wrong with it before? Too much grinding or something?
>>135705519
Magnum is an update to quest and thus replaces it. Most of Quest's stuff is still in Magnum, but it continues, expands and fixes Quest.
There's absolutely no reason to play the original Quest due to this and the fact that it's garbage.
>>135705907
That was a large part of it
>>135706154
Not that anon, but isn't RQM still grindy as fuck?
>>135706217
Much less than Rance Quest. It also has a much more interesting plot.
Previously every time Rance fucked a character they reverted back to level 1. Now that only happens the first time
>>135706295
That's at least a bit better. What about the characters who get level reset before joining the party?
Finally finished all the heroine routes.
Still didn't get to fuck Alma
>>135706423
But there are these two endings I can now do.
I'll do the fight against Alma first
>>135706547
And yep she's the strongest fight in the game
>>135707031
She starts hugging Est and telling him about her bad dream where she threw him in prison and attacked him
>>135707414
And after getting introduced to Kuu she decides that Kuu and Est should get married and that is the end.
Now for the true* ending of the game
*Well it requires having completed every single route
>>135672416
I thought we had a lot of Drapeko OP when it was released. At the very least, it had a lot of discussion back then, due to the innovative Bad End system.
>>135707594
Est uses his sword and decides to cut away the thing manipulating his sister and this happens
I guess Alma is such a best sister that she's an oneesan and an imouto
>>135707720
Excellent. Looks like this is going to be as long as the main heroine endings.
I now declare that this is the true end
>>135707918
Opens up a new event.
Kuu has taken Est and fled. Est has taken the loli version of his sister with him but she doesn't recognise him yet.
Adult Alma still wants to capture Est and turn him into a shota and Angela is still an evil bitch
>>135694905
>>135694987
I was going to say that The C might be in reference to his huge stone dick, but that's Isis.
Maybe Caesar actually has a Genri-sized one.
>>135705774
>It also fixes the gameplay.
Only minor changes
>>135708112
Doesn't seem that minor to fix Morurun's Reincarnation-esque mechanics.
>>135708401
Considering you don't need it to finish the game though it's not that big of a change.
Also, even if you want to use it, you could always just go for Lvl 35 between reincarnations, and going from 1 to 35 can be done really fast.
Okay Loli Alma's existance is something I don't get yet.
People seem to forget her very quickly and not only does she remember everything but she actually knows far more than what adult Alma appeared to know.
>>135708598
And it opens up a new event at the end of chapter 2.
I guess loli Alma is going to be observing Est all the time and we'll get her thoughts on what happens and eventually we'll get that incest end.
>>135708746
Okay. So God put a small impression into Alma after Alma was influenced by Neve and Est separated out that part which became loli Alma.
Given one of the major issues in Drapeko is that god protects humanity but hates non-humans it makes sense that we're getting a route where Est can get a chance to influence God.
Though it seems to be more of a splinter of god that is assimilated with Alma than god itself
>>135709160
Still a brocon
Seems like Drapeko might be based in the far future of earth.
'God' is some sort of highly advanced AI which is the second moon - which is why they constantly show the sky with two moons and why all the interactions with god seem computer like.
Vampires/Dragons/ etc are intelligent monsters created that can't eat normal food and desire to eat humans. They're basically countermeasures for when human civilisation has gone in the wrong direction and needs to be wiped.
But when humanity doesn't need to be wiped out they get killed by 'heroes' who are special humans granted power by god. Toru is one of them.
Dragon trials etc are ways to access god and get a wish. This wish can be transferred to anyone include a dragon like Kuu.
Different monsters set up their own kingdoms and aided humanity in terms of development in order to build trust so they could get a wish transferred to them which would allow them to eat humans without interference from heroes. The Dragon Valley royal family also has some dragon genetics which is why they're all really talented and lewd because Alicesoft dragons are always horny (poor Kamilla).
Apparently Kuu's mother almost got the wish from Est's father but decided not to go ahead with the wish which is why Euro always knows what is going on.
The Phoenix is different to others in that human misery is enough to sustain it so it goes around offering wishes but deliberately using the wishes to make people miserable. Because of that the Phoenix never bothered to set up a country.
The vampire wants to assimilate and destroy god. Angela serves the vampire and probably helped her influence Alma.
Toro was recruited to help Angela but because she spends so much time interacting with humans she doesn't want to kill humans.
Est always wishes for non-humans to not have have to eat humans to live.
>>135710602
A theme in pretty much every main heroine ending is that the attachments made by the heroine bring them back from the brink - Kuu never goes ahead with her plan, Sauce manages to regain her body after giving it to the Phoenix and Sekiei manages to regain her body from god.
God sends out thousands of small parts which send back information to the main body. One of these entered Alma in order to observe the plot of Neve and Kuu. It's what Est separates from Alma at the start of the 'true' route and becomes loli Alma
But Alma also influences it which is why she does stuff like have water fights with Est in the bath.
Est keeps on bringing up questions and obviously Alma-God will realise that non-humans like Kuu have feelings as well and influence the main body to become a god for everyone and not just humans
>>135711703
And still a brocon
This basically confirms that the Alma route is the true end of the game and that Alma is best girl and best heroine and that oneesans are the best
>>135711921
This Est has memories of all four routes but prefers Sharl to all of the four heroines.Good taste
>>135712021
Well the Alma sex scene is pretty hotit's with God-Alma and not real Alma though but she has a similar personality.
Kind of disappointed it isn't real incest like that though.
>>135712363It's not like Alicesoft to pussy out like that in the last moment, they tend to give you the reward at the end.
All this talks makes me want to text-hook Yoru ga Kuru and post comments on the thread. But it's really old, so I'm not sure if it's doable.
That and I would have to do the music thing as with most old Alicesoft games.
Looks like I'm too stupid to play quest. That kalar forest is a nightmare and I have no idea what to do. Constant encounters are incredibly irritating and so is a finite number of attacks. What am I supposed to do, grind previous quests until I could kill everything in one blow? This isn't fun.
>>135712908
There's a reason why people blast Quest's gameplay
>>135712908
Sounds like you killed Aegis
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Rance_Quest:Quests_Walkthrough#Quest_.2366_Love_Letter_to_the_Kalar
Finished Drapeko
>>135712498They leave it unknown if God has swapped places with Alma occasionally. Also Est becomes a god as well in this ending. [/spoiler
Overall while it did drag a time bit in the middle chapters it was pretty fun and funny.
My ratings
Alma
Kuu, Sharl
Seikiei,God Alma
Toro
Sauce, Neve
Mary
Tohru
Angela a shit
>>135712908
Don't get lost.
Check the map on the wiki.
>>135712908
>, grind previous quests until I could kill everything in one blow? This isn't fun.
Yes, except it doesn't need to be in one blow. If there is one thing that Quest wants you to do it's to grind the quests
If it bothers you then boot up a cheat egine
>>135713154
Okay then.
>>135713185
Also looks the the God Sekiei worships is the protagonist of Vanish!
>>135713260
>>135713154
That's strange. I remember for sure that I didn't take the crystal the first time.
Eh, I'll just follow what wiki says.
>>135692635
Called him Ithere though, it's what everyone here calls him.
>>135713420
There are some quests that you can do twice for different rewards and you should always do both options.
There are no consequences for doing them other than having to replay the quest
Oh shit, just woke up and we were about to die.
>>135721658
I'm off to sleep so someone else can take over
>>135721658
>>135721734
Will probably around for the next 4-6 hours, will try to keep it alive.
>>135714602
Most overrated Foot Soldier.
>>135723364
>good foot soldier that is easy to get
Best girl is just a plus
>>135723364
my MVP in IX
>>135723639
>easy to get
Just because you can get her early and all the guides recommend doing it doesn't make her easy to get. Without any bonuses whatsoever, even on the 0 star difficulty, when you don't get a lucky capture during conquering the raccoons, you can easily end up facing all 6 of them in the final conquest battle. The only reason why it's even winnable is because it's a town battle, not a castle one.
I, for one, remember how many times (back in the first days) they successfully assassinated my backrow characters and how often their full power attacks would wipe out my front row units because they acted before Katsuie. Definitely the biggest powerspike in difficulty out of all houses you face in Central Japan.
>>135724307
>having issues with ieyasu
how
he has 1 footsoldier that has almost guaranteed capture rate if you fight him and even if you dont his attack is laughable, 0 healers and diviners only 2 shitty ninjas and a warrior in the back row
The only one that can even do damage is himself and the commander battle is laughably easy
>>135725386
>he has 1 footsoldier that has almost guaranteed capture rate if you fight him
Everything has an almost guaranteed capture rate if you reload enough times. Sometimes you don't even get lucky enough to encounter him in the first place, before it's too late, and you have to either fuck around and do nothing an entire turn or face the 'coons.
>his attack is laughable,
Whose attack are you talking about here? The foot soldier's? Because Ieyasu and the massage coon can easily wipe out whatever you have on your front row unless it's Katsuie with guard up.
>only 2 shitty ninjas
One of whom can and often does Assassinate your troops. This is ramped up by the fact that, as I said, the warrior coons can act before your front line foot soldier and "accidentally" wipe out your warriors there (i.e. Rance - forcing a restart automatically, and to be honest, even if it's not Rance, at this point you need that front liner in there to do some damage because what else you got?).
The warrior in the back row is technically a saving grace, except they are defending so he still helps them a little bit by non stop wasting turns. I doubt there's a lot of people who rushed Tokugawa ASAP and won that battle by any means other than having a slight advantage on the battle meter and a bit of luck.
>>135725386
>The only one that can even do damage is himself and the commander battle is laughably easy
Honda also has some serious damage, especially early game.
While they are not tremendously hard, they are not easy at all for an early game opponent.
Infact, Tokugawa is probably one of the hardest houses, topped only by the obvious top tiers like One-Eyed or Takeda.
>>135706295
Not only did they revert to level one, but they could only level up once per battle, no matter how much SP they had.
>>135726646
>Infact, Tokugawa is probably one of the hardest houses, topped only by the obvious top tiers like One-Eyed or Takeda.
Exactly this. Uesegi, Mouri, even Hojo (who are just overpowered due to Ran getting a Mary Sue powerup and you have to rely on he being retarded) are actually relatively easier than Tokugawa.
>>135726356
>>135726646
I guess I'm the only one that never has issues with them. Do you guys go straight up for them without isoroku or something?
I remember that on the very first time I ever played, I managed to beat them early only because on a defensive battle against them, where I didn't have enough troops to defend, Kenshin came to my rescue. At that point, I realized who the real best Rance girl is and fell in eternal love!
>>135703072
Patty is almost as sexy as Mill.
>>135713313
Vanish happens in the same universe as Drapeko, doesn't it? I remember them being related somehow.
I'm in a strange situation with Quest at the moment.
I have completed all quests that don't require items, party members I don't have yet or levels (as well as Malgreed dungeon, of course) and yet no new ones are unlocked.
Rance is level 30 by now and most (useful) characters are around 25.
Uncompleted quests available:
>044 (kenshin's dedication), 085 (Oil dancer), 101-104 (festivals), 111 (Monster girls), 117 (Kugu torture machine), 122 (malgreed dungeon), 150 (Ice flame).
I don't know if it's relevant in any way, but the last story related one I played was 056 (Satorare Ninja).
I've tried restarting the game but it doesn't seem to affect anything in any way. What have I overlooked?
>>135728541
What's stopping you?
>>135728541
Did you do the zombie-room quest?
>>135729021
I have no idea. I'm simply not getting any new quests and the wiki is a clusterfuck.
I figured I'd rather wait until I have unlocked better grinding spots before going for ice flame or kenshin.
>>135729393
#62? Yes.
I guess I'll run Malgreed and see if there's some timed unlock or something I'm missing.
>>135729785
You can meet characters in Malgreed, but try lion's mind again and changing your choice.
>>135729785
Remember the quest where you had the choice to open a door, basically letting the zombies go on a rampage in the quest before zombie-room quest? Redo that one and don't open the door.
>>135728541
A ton of quests need you to have lvl 35 characters to trigger their first sex (and second) scenes
Time to grind
>>135729904
>>135729942
I have both #61 and #62 done. I'm pretty sure they're optional anyway.
>>135730264
It's going to be rather painful to push there using these difficulty 30 quests.
>>135730540
2 people tell you the same thing and you still doubt us?
>>135730540
Grinding levels is a bitch until you get to quest 97 which gives a shitton of exp for characters that are lvl 1-34
>>135730724
Well, two people tell me to do something I have done already. I can give it another shot, but I doubt it's going to do anything.
>>135730947
Wish me luck.
>>135730540
Do Kenshin's stuff. She's pretty closely tied to the story as I recall. Have you done Leazas's Ghost Story?
>>135731127
>>135731180
Or better, what's the last story quest you've done?
>>135731180
Yes. It was requirement for 056 which was the last story quest I did.
>>135728541
Is the complete list of all my unlocked and uncompleted quests (minus support and survey which aren't really quests)
>>135731353
The one whereKanami gets cursed, aka 056.
>>135731441
Use the walkthrough on the wiki. Its easy to get lost in the clusterfuck of quests and honestly anyone that tries to use the SR mentallity of "dont use it on your first playthrough!" can go fuck themselves
Welp, Keith sure is keeping a hot piece of ass away from Rance.
>>135731441
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Rance_Quest:Quests_Walkthrough
Says you only need #20 and #90.
>>135731743
If you can understand Japanese, then it's pretty doable even without a walkthought. You may miss a character or two thought, like how I missed Noah and Emmy. But never really got stuck.
>>135731441
56 isn't a main quest, but a side one.
>>135732461
How the fuck would you know how to do the ghost quest without a walkthrough and without knowing japanese?
>>135731743
Since you can redo anything as often as you want, you really can't fail
>>135731880
Yes, but you need Lia unlocked, which is unlocked through Leazas' ghost story.
It seems the next important quest that unlocks new stuff I'm supposed to get is #71. Unfortunately it's one of those "gets unlocked when starts align and a baby named Tim is born in a small hut somewhere in nevada" kind of deals. I guess I'll run some older quests again and pray that one day the game feels like giving it to me.
>>135732664
It's not? I can't tell the difference, but it was the last one that related to the main plot in some fashion.
>>135732783
Like I said, if you can understand Japanese then a walkthrough isn't needed.
>>135732882
To get 71 you need to do quest 20, 63 and defeat level 38 Matilda.
>>135733141
I just beat that Matilda in last run of Malgreed as I was getting the torture parts. Didn't complete it though (used an exit to run) so I guess it should unlock after the next completed quest.
>>135594691
Which game is this?
>>135733359
Yep. Finally got it.
This game can be a headache sometimes. It seems almost every site I check has slightly differing requirements for quests, sometimes having to do with seemingly random events that may trigger on some maps sometimes when some obscured requirements are fulfilled.
Wait, why's she looking for Rance?
>>135734258
Beat blades escalator
>>135734258
Haruka, the one that just got released.
Raising Sims Nukige where you train ninjas. First Alicesoft game released by MangaGamer.
>>135734258
Don't waste your time.
>>135734505
You will know in the not far future.
How is the Sengoku Rance game installed again? I just mount the .iso and then run patch v1.00? Or can I just straight run patch v1.01? Or do I install it first and then run both patches?
>>135735889
Mount it and run the english translation patch and it'll install both at the same time
>>135736045
00 or 01?
>>135736135
Whatever is the 1.04 game version so probably 01
>>135735889
Why not just download the funwanovel one where you don't have to install? Just click exe and play.
>>135736868
>Recommending the fuwa version
How far we've fallen.
>>135736868
>Downloading the fuwanovel version
>>135727185
I usually go for Tokugawa relatively early because they don't have a gourd anyway.
>>135737054
>>135737118
well shit. point me to the right direction senpai. I'm only 10 hour in
>>135737259
Install it the normal way, Fuwa version is notorious for having problems that occur unexpectedly (usually screwing up FFA) due to it being pre-downloaded on a different computer than the one running it.
>Best Foot Soldier
Generic female unit I capture from Hara at the start and then use Cheat Engine to modify to 9 in all stats, All Guard and End Game Points for maximum score gain.
Step it up senpais.
>>135738283
But is generic Female Foot Soldier-chan carrying the General's offspring on her belly?
I bet not.
>>135738543
I don't know, her name starts with moonrunes and ends with "nae".
>>135738283
>All Guard instead of Ally Guard+
>Not Counterattack 2.
>>135739079
Ally Guard+ doesn't protect the back row. With my All Guard Foot Soldier-chan I can block every single attack 100% of the time because I edit her % to 1000 at the start.
>>135739271
>I edit her % to 1000 at the start.
I don't think anyone can argue against that aside from>>135738543
6 Days till Anime Boston and the 3 MG announcements that not be Rance titles.
>>135741446
Please be excited for more garbage nukige.
Why, hello there, cutie.
What kind of an investment are you talking about?
Has there ever been a less sexually arousing h-CG than the Tanegashima conquest one in Rance history?
>>135744743
The text is hot though.
It's hard to draw an orgy with only one small image.
>>135744743
I'm not sure, but it's definitely a contender, if nothing else.
>>135744743
Almost every Rance game CG before 5d.
>>135745768
Kichikuou's art is great and IV isn't that bad.
I agree about III and the former though.
>>135746450
IV is a level above III, but still pretty bad to me. There was only one CG/scene in KR that I found hot, the one with the Zeth "towel" girl.
>>135741446
But it was supposed to be 2. Why is there suddenly one more?
Stop trying to get my hopes up for things that totally don't sound like 5D.
Lark and Noa's suffering brings me great joy.
Good job, Satella.
>>135747105
I do think it will probably take some time for them to announce a next Alicesoft game if there will be one. I think Alicesoft would sit on the idea for some time first.
>>135747386
Noanot getting a not-Isis H-scene in 03 is one ofmy irks too.I thought they would perhaps change it so that Rance does get to do her in the hospital this time or at least jump in and make it a 3P, seeing how it's Rance and all.
>>135747105
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/
There was 2. Now there is 3.
Don't kid yourself about 5D. Use it to practice your Japanese.
>>135747486
Haruka may be a shitty nukige, but it seems to have sold well (currently at 3rd place despite a sales just happening and new otomege pre-order starting up). Can't be that hard to convince them to throw something like 5D at us.
Because it's 5D.
>>135748142
Nah. Alicesoft won't ever give MG something that's not a nukige.
>>135738283
How do you use it to cheat stats? When I try it it works only on one turn for me, gets reset on the next one.
>>135749702
spoilerAL
>>135748142
>Haruka may be a shitty nukige
You haven't seen shitty nukige it seems
>>135748142
> 5D Every happening
Why though? Go play the game. You'll see why it's never going to happen. And that's okay. I personally enjoy the shit out of it, but there are very good reasons why that is not the majority opinion.
>>135749702
Don't modify the stats itself, cheat yourself some textbooks instead.
>>135748142
> Shitty nukige.
Actually it's arguably a pretty/very good one. There is some real trash out there that would alter your perceptions slightly.
>>135750091
>>135750406
You're right, it's a shitty game (although personally, it depends on your flavour of RNG raising sims) but a very good nukige. I just compounded them.
It's also the reason why I think 5D has a chance because if MG can bring over MorningStar nukiges like Warrior Princess Asuka or Ruby Striker, 5D would look like a gem in comparison.
>>135751294
I still don't understand who even is buying those games. Like, I've looked at CG rips, it's not even very good porn, and porn is all it has, so....
>>135751294
5D isn't a nukige. It has very few sex scenes. The only selling point for it is that it's a Rance game. Without anything else officially localized, it'd be difficult to get people to give a shit.
Friendly reminder to kill all Helman scum.
>>135751876
Haruka is tame compared to the other shitty nukige out there
The events leading up to this are great. Laughed my ass off.
>>135752219
Ah, but now we can advertise it's from the acclaimed team that brought over Kindred Spirits!
Everyone will love it! All the hannies and all the yurifans!
Definitely!If only... ;_;
>>135757039
Whats your take onNTRanon?
>>135758183I don't like NTR (You know, protagonists lover being stolen), but I like Netori.Lark and Noa are cunts though, so I thought it was well deserved.
>>135758392Well he gets double NTR'd. Once by Rance and then another time by a lookalikeThe butthurt in /haniho/ was surreal
Well, that's a new one.
>>135629989
>Pretty sure that Oda's gourd needs to snap for you to war Tangeashima (unless you're taking bonuses).
Nope, doesn't. Can declare war on them as early as turn 6, before Suzume is raped by Rance.
>>135758392>I don't like NTR (You know, protagonists lover being stolen), but I like Netori.
I understand why, but I've always hated when people do that.
>>135759375
I mean, it's definitely distasteful - but when it's one or the other, the choice is obvious.
Sometimes best girlsneed to be stolen away from a bad relationship.
Excuse me, EASY mode?
He was far too patient with this little fucking brat.
>>135758392
> I think X is bad unless I'm the one doing it.
What?
>>135759589
I don't have any real strong feelings about either of them, but for some reason I really dislike swinging.
This face is actually perfect.
>>135760517
Just me being a hypocrite.
>>135760534
Yeah, that's something I'm not a fan of at all.
>>135760517
The entire crux of the NTR fetish is being a beta faggot that gets off on being shamed and emasculated. Netori isn't even similar, since you're relating to the one coming out on top and taking the girl from said loser.
Important question here - if I start out with the Blue Seal Case, then I can't steal it from Ieyasu, right?
So if I can't steal it from Ieyasu, then I can't do "Kill subordinate Ieyasu" because I need to tease him three times, right?
>>135760135
Yes, EASY mode
kinda pissed, is ex-hentai not working for anyone else?
had my log-in all set up but now when I try to go to the rance galleries I favorited it just does sadpanda and the "log-in" page no longer exists
>>135762238
Just went there and it still works fine for me.
>>135762238
Shouldn't have wiped your cookies
>>135762238
But you login through g.e
>>135760721
I think it has to do with the fact that, with NTR, the guy is usually loses the girl unintentionally due to him being stupid or something, while with swinging, he is actively choosing to let another guy fuck his girl, which is absolutely disgusting to me.
>>135762338
what the fuck, well whatever I suppose I'll figure it out
I just log in to e-hentai and then I gotta clear cache, wasn't it?
>>135762432
I don't remember doing so
>>135762475
there's a login page for ex once you've logged into g.e
>>135761027
There's a difference between not liking NTR and just not being interested in it. Being opposed to NTR would also imply having some vested interest in fidelity.
So for such a person, who obviously doesn't want to see themselves as the beta faggot, why would there be any interest in being with someone who lacks that fidelity?
They girl would just cheat on you as quick as they cheated with you in the first place, so it'd be pointless, no?
Kind of ironic though.
>>135762753
As a fetish NTR is most similar to masochism. The eroticism is supposed to come from being ashamed more than anything else.
>>135763146
I'm impressed that there's that many people into it then.
>>135764859
It's not hard to not give a shit about the guy being NTRed and just enjoy the hot girl getting fucked, especially since there are some good artists out there that really like to do NTR, though I suppose that counts as indifference to it more than anything else
My sides are gone.
Rance just straight upkills the shopkeeper for selling the holy armour and shield.
03 is fucking great, so far.
>>135766265>Rance
Kanami does the killing blow IIRC
>>135766551Rance stabs him through through the gut, and he collapses, and then Kanami stabs him something like 10 times.
>>135766265
Rance kills him in the original too.
And then if you go back later he calls him a lazy old man for closing up shop just because he's dead.
>>135757039
Sup Kay-chan
>>135727185
>I guess I'm the only one that never has issues with them. Do you guys go straight up for them without isoroku or something?
Come to think of it, I don't know how I usually beat Tokugawa. Reloading my 5 Star No Bonus run reveals that I didn't beat them until I fucking had Kenshin... weird.
>>135727119
>Exactly this. Uesegi, Mouri, even Hojo (who are just overpowered due to Ran getting a Mary Sue powerup and you have to rely on he being retarded) are actually relatively easier than Tokugawa.
I wonder, how do you guys actually rate the difficulty of the houses, relative to when you face them? In my experience, even 5 Star No Bonus gets easy once you've got shit like Dousan, Kenshin and Natori, even easier with Permits, so I'm almost tempted to say that either the Miko Institute or Ashikaga are the hardest houses, although I've picked up the habit of vassaling Hara on No Bonus.
>>135759248
>Nope, doesn't. Can declare war on them as early as turn 6, before Suzume is raped by Rance.
Really? Fuck. Gonna go do something and then I'm checking that.
>>135761698
>Important question here - if I start out with the Blue Seal Case, then I can't steal it from Ieyasu, right?
I've never tried, but I actually suspect that you'll be able to pull it off. I don't recall this game ever locking me out of events because I've already got the reward.
>>135765642
>It's not hard to not give a shit about the guy being NTRed and just enjoy the hot girl getting fucked
That's just enjoying the porn without caring about the story. Basically, a nukige.
>>135768321
New thread
>>135768034
>Basically, a nukige.
Please, even Nukiges have the decency to have a story attached even if it's paper thin
>>135767828
Based on when you face them? Tokugawa, One-Eyed, Shimazu, Mikos from from worst to easiest
