Struggling to muster the desire actually farm these fortnights edition
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EVENTS (GLOBAL)
>[03/01-03/15] Sadi-chan fortnight
>[03/15-03/29] Apprentice Buggy Fortnight (Shanks very rarely, sometimes too)
>[03/08-03/15] Prison Croc fortnight
>[03/15-03/22] Hina fortnight (Ranking)
>[03/22-03/29] Afro Luffy fortnight
>[03/29-04/05] Cobymeppo Fortnight
EVENTS (JP/EZMODE)
>[03/08-03/22] I can't believe Thatch has his own Fortnight
>[03/10-03/17] Arlong and Keimi's Returning Fortnights
>[03/13-03/20] Halloween Fortnight 1
>[03/20-03/27] Halloween Fortnight 2
>[03/11-03/12] Enel's Raid
>[03/14-03/15] Buster Call Raid
>[03/18-03/22] Clash of Clashes and NEW Kizaru Raid
>[03/08-03/24] 20 Million Thank You Event (Banquet give away dates: Day 2-3/14, Day 3-19, Day 4-3/24)
>[03/24 - 03/31] Hogback & Cobymeppo
>[03/31 - 04/07 ] Noland & Kraken
>[03/08-03/28] Denden Mushi Rate Ups (3/8-3/15:Cola, 3/15-3/22:Meat, 3/22-3/28)
>[03/18-03/22] Clash of Clashes (Duval, Hancock, Mihawk, Kizaru)
Previous thread: >>134833956
Adding to OP,
There is no Steam chat, there is no cursed chat, or mumble, or teamspeak. If you wish to circlejerk about this Chinese cartoon, >>>/a/.
>3 turns with terrible orbs
>lose the fortnight
This is dildos.
How does the new electricity debuff work?
second for still no skillup events
>all those jp events compared to global
Fuck bamco
>>135139092
Goddamn OP, they announced the Clash of Clashes raids about 3 hours ago and you couldn't post it.
>>135139092
>forgot all of the just announced event info
>>135139614
>>135139621
I just reviewed my news coo before posting and saw nothing of the sort. Guess I should have reset my game first, huh?
>tfw Storm Pirates is too busy getting DP'd by BBC to put up her IntHawk for me to use.
>>135139715
It was literally being discussed in the last thread
>>135140102
>mfw its actually storm pirates making these posts about himself to gain some kind of infamy
Fuck off Storm
>>135140102
>her
>cobymeppo finally returning
Literally the fortnight I've wanted for the longest time. I can use coby until I actually get a good skill level on doffy. Hina goes great with him too.
HOW THE FUCK AM IS SUPPOSED TO SOCKET MY SW SHANKS WITH ALL THESE RAIDBOSSES THIS WEEK AND AFROLUFFY NEXT WEEK.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135142831
>i have to socket my g3, g2, and log luffy next week
>none of the fortnights this week are actually useful besides maybe moria and robin books
Is RR Shanks worth socketing with the young Shanks'?
>>135144382
He has higher Atk. By 90 points if I'm not mistaken
>>135142831
>>135143065
>g2
Baka nano?
Could I get some g3 friend captains please? Only lvl 52 and it's hard to find g3 friends
Thanks in advance
>>135145190
I'm retarded, friend code is 641 744 358
All friends are welcome 8)
With all the turtles and pigs form this fortnight I've evolved and leveled a few units. It always amazes me when I finish a level now and it doesn't tell me to expand my box.
>>135144382
Sure, more sockets are always a plus. Def prioritise 6* Shanks but RR Shanks is still a great use of them
Am I doing something wrong? Why won't Daz Bones appear, you goddamn sonofabitch.
Which blue guy should I level now? Is Tashigi even worth evolving?
>>135149289
You have two better blue slashers than Tashigi plus Lucci will come sooner or later. I'd level Capone. He has good stats and a good special. Koza is you best bet for slasher teams but he doesn't need that much leveling since he will be the weakest unit in your slasher team. Crodocile sees use in in your striker team so level him if you use strikers a lot.
>>135149520
Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll focus on Croc then Capone.
>get 5 chests from croco
>gem for refill
>get another 4 chests and 1 croco
>resilience socket
This fucking game
>>135149784
I've accepted the fact that I won't max croc this time around. I just wish I hadn't fucked up on sockets and had to restart auto-heal.
Third fortnight will happen at some point at least.
hi i was wondering if anyone here has pirate warriors 3 on pc with this film z costume
i got the game on steam and i bought all the dlc but for some reason the film z costume for luffy is not included in the dlc packs
i think i just need to add a little file that contains the costume to my dlc folder
it should look like one of these
http://imgur.com/Rvkh9Ay
but i can't find a download for that specific dlc anywhere, it's like whoever made the crack for the game just forgot about that dlc
if anyone here has the costume could you pleace upload the file im missing somewhere so i can get the costume, i would be very thankful
it's kinda weird because this is not even pre order dlc,it is just not there for some reason
>>135149857
I have trouble accepting that fact. but since i got fucked by croc just now i don't have any other choice but to wait for his return..
>>135150937
Same orbs but worse results
I'm more hyped about the 1/2 stamina sea pony day than any of the raids
Qck and Psy types get 1.5x attack and 1.2x hp
56560 fixed damage to all enemies special on 17 turn cooldown
fighters are still shit
>>135152461
Is it 56560 because of something stupid like "gorororo" sounding like thunder? Isn't that the best ship for qck and psy?
>>135153391
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Goro_Goro_no_Mi
>No Skillup Event
>All these amazing fortnights and raids
>>135139614
It's just that micro penis beta cuck that RUSHES to make the OPs because he's terrified of Nico Robin's confidence in her sexuality so he tries his hardest to prevent the OP having an image of Nico Robin.
>>135149784
I've been getting terrible luck with croc as well. To add salt and lime on the wound I haven't gotten a single skill up on doublefinger or mr.1 after about 20 manuals each.
>>135154975
nice projecting m80
>>135154856
This, 100% this. I have blackbeards stockpiled I want to get rid of. My main blackbeard has zero skill ups!
I have 112 Stamina currently, and I really want to farm Mihawk to max his special. Should I do it with my current stamina or wait until I have 120 so I can get 3 copies per gem?I'm F2P so I'm being extremely jewish with my gems
How the fuck do I kill these raid bosses? Please help. This is my box.
>>135155375
the leftover stamina carries over if you use gem refill, so just go for it
Why the fuck is Enel's forest tagged as Master level, this shit is clearly Ultimate level
>>135155375
>plvl above 200
>not having maxhawk
>>135155446
>Ask game related question
>Gets fucking ignored
Great general guys!
>>135156539
Everyone in these threads can recognize the memebox by now
>>135155770
>>135155601
Yeah whatever Mihawk's special is not that good anyway.
>>135156661
>>135149784
Reminder that if you gem for farming sockets you are betting your gems against a double RNG and that it's not worth it.
>>135152461
Why are psy and qck always paired together?
>>135157346
i think in this case it's because of the qck enel and psy enel unit
>>135157346
I wondered this for a while, it has two legends dedicated to it and now it has a boat. Made me think as well, would TC ever get dual types like pad has, would it even benefit from it?
>>135158660
HERE WE GO AGAIN
>>135158660
Is that suppose to be Luffy, Zoro and Sanji post timeskip?
Is it me or stamina refills got more rare recently? I can't remember the last time I rolled on a meat from a snal
>>135159120
Same, I have been getting more beli bags and cola x2, not cola x5, far more often.
>>135157346
In this case it's for Enel since he not only has a Qck/Psy unit, but lightning is usually blue or yellow.
In general it's because they're the "weakest" types, since Qck has mixed support and Psy units usually have high Rcv or healing based skills.
Any comfy teams for doffy other than max blackbeard?
>>135160247
Double MC with Jozu.
Hey, I need some help planning for upcoming raids, I've got some great sugo luck so far but I sadly don't have maxed merry yet. (can't always be lucky, I suppose) in addition, I'm not sure who to be levelling, because cost is an issue for me (only pirate level 100 or so) apologies for leaving the dupes in, the penguin is storing my rcv candy for Enel if and when I get him.
>>135161248
Oh look, a new memebox
>>135161248
Shit posters are getting lazy
>>135161480
>>135161650
I'm serious though.
>>135161248
>I've got some great sugo luck so far
>plvl 100
>5 legendaries and G3
more like great rerolling and quite a lot of money
For how much do you think you can sell a good account ?
I'm tired of this game.
>>135162229
I rerolled and got the first inthawk and ace, and later spent about 100-120$ on sugo total, and a small amount to get Blackbeard. I'm dead serious, this is my box, is this enough proof for you? (can't fit log luffy, obviously because of cost and can't use 2 luffys)
>>135162693
>and later spent about 100-120$ on sugo total, and a small amount to get Blackbeard
yeah, go..go buy some help with that money of yours too while you are at it
fucking hell
>>135162853
it was spread across 2 sugos, I don't have a lot of expenses, it's not really that much.
>>135162982
>Spending money at all
>Game's too hard so let me buy my way to victory
Kill yourself ezmode fag
>>135163847
Yeah, don't care.
>>135164132
Why not use gems to get through the raids?
>>135164132
Yeah you do, fag
>>135162297
Bumping this question.
>>135165947
Some fag i know bought an account with whitebeard and sw shanks and some other legend for 80€, but hes more or less retarded
>>135165546
I could, and I may to get a single copy of doffy and enel, if needed, but I want some ideas for taking on mihawk etc. And im curious if i can do it without zombie. Also whether i should socket inthawk or try and get a high skill dexhawk
>>135166279
The only Legend I have is Boa Hancock.
I have every Raid units besides Doffy and Enel (missed them). 250 days playing.
>>135166636
Having them is one thing, but are they maxed? I don't think so given you don't even have a Doffy.
>>135166797
Nah they're around level 70-ish.
I fucked up by leveling all my good units at the same time instead of maxing first each good captains.
>>135139459
It zaps ya
>>135156539
THE DUDE IS CLEARLY TROLLING REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135151237
Same orbs for me but I'm one less point in silence than you
>>135167514
the specials you dingus
>>135167514
what >>135168978 said.
Expect about $ 2,50 for your account <:^)
>>135159120
It's not just you man. Ever since those boosted rates disappeared I've had two.
Before that I was getting 1-3 every second week.
I'm all about those fucking daimyo turtles these days. Those cunts seem more common than ever
>>135166505
Just socket inthawk mihawk is the easiest raid gpu and g3 are enough to beat him
>amongst the sea of leveled kidds someone uses my rakuyo
feels good man
>>135139092
GOL D. CHESTS IN KUMAMOTO
534 473 488
>>135172307
tapping
>>135172307
tapping
>>135169297
Be happy, all i get are beli bags and cola.
>close to capping at 400 space
>only 10 gems when mihawk drops
>a billion units I need to save including skill books
>no skill up
I got 4 gold chests to give away in Kumamoto.
322 450 747
>>135173223
Tapping
>>135173223
Tapping
Everyone put up your evolved psy marcos as friend captain please. I need da evolved psy marcos. All da evolved psy marcos! EVERY. SINGLE. ONE!
>>135173134
I actually want all the beli and cola I can get. I want to hit max money limit if there is one, I'm aiming to crack that 1 billion mark
Just had Daz Bones appear 4 times in a row...
Croc still shitting out nothing but chests
>>135173223
Ty for the keys.
>>135173223
Two chests remaining.
>traveling next week
>three raidbosses that I haven't been Able to get are coming out
> Mihawk copes still needed for skill up and socket
Fuck, I want to at least get one Doffy, One Enel and One Invakov.
>>135173784
Just wait until we get Japan friend captain update. Mine will always be up for you.
>>135174209
So good to me. Wanna make out?
>>135174209
You haven't been here very long have you, anon?
>almost pirate level 200
>still no max mihawk
>>135174414
what's you crew name so i can remove you
>>135174201
What does have to do with anything? Are you going to some third world country or the congo where internet access doesn't exist?
>>135174519
Genocide Pirates
here's my reaction image
>>135174519
Storm Pirates.
>>135174635
>here's my reaction image
>>135174519
This is quickly becoming a top meme, keep it up!
>>135174519
Water Pipe Pirates
>>135174557
I'm going to Japan for 10 days so I don't wanna do this shit while I'm in vacatiob
>>135174976
Go tap in kumamoto irl
>>135174519
The crew with 5 legends.
>>135174519
Straw Hat Pirates
anybodywith silver chest?
742 423 034
kumamoto
>>135142831
raids are weekly and luffy/usopps are common
shanks has a bad drop rate
i'd say he's a priority
>>135176545
tap ping
>>135176862
didnt mean to reply to this
>>135176545
tapping
>>135176494
>>135173909
I know that feel
>>135174976
I'm pretty sure you can spend an hour per day farming some raidbosses while you are having a break
Are you retards seriously gemming for croc
5 gold chests, 337,445,071
>>135177561
tapping
>>135177561
tapping
>>135177561
added, tapping
>>135177561
yo thanks for da keys
thanks fuckboys for the cola, and the rest of you for the 10,000 beli. (only slightly bitter.)
>>135176545
Would you gem for Young Shanks drops tho if you have SW Shanks to socket?
I love Facebook
>>135174367
I've probably been here longer than you desu
I was slyly mocking him by mentioning the update which will almost make asking for friend captains not needed. At the same time though, I'm happy to actually help if needed.
I've posted the meme when I genuinely needed more friend captains up, having a bit of fun is okay in these threads imo
>>135178456
Reported for gore
>>135178456
Holy shit no way
>>135175457
If you don't do this you better just kill yourself.
Gave me a chuckle and actually would be a good thing to do as a tourist
>>135177515
I've gemmed twice and probably using my daily gem to do it again today. I am a little brain-dead, yes.
>>135178456
>>135178223
why would you gem for a fortnight ?
>>135178456
This cannot be true. I refuse to accept this as anything other than an act of trolling.
Recommendations on what qck I should level?
And I should evolve Kaku into the str Giraffe and not the qck one, right?
4 golden chest in left get them before it's too late. 445.205.735 Kumamoto.
>>135180173
added and tapping
>>135180173
added
Crocoboy pls
>>135180435
>>135180529
Thanks for the friend points and keys mates!
>get keys and belli in confusion
thanks bois
>>135180173
tapping
>>135180860
Thanks for the cola already existent friend!
>>135181018
Thanks for the keys.
>>135181123
tapping
>>135181190
bruh!
>>135181190
oh sheet
>>135178456
>gets btfo for browsing reddit
>posts facebook instead
can you be any more pathetic
>>135178223
yes
>>135179784
why would you gem for anything?
just speak your mind instead of being a roundabout
>>135180094
Push eneru and jozu to about 70 area or so.
I'm assuming you have like no skill ups on hzoro? I'd say get him up but maybe just boost your log zoro instead until we get midnight party again.
Yes, str kaku is one of my top desired units. 3 slots, nice stats and not too hard to socket. Great str slasher to have either on standby or in your team.
This is why you run 30 stamina as opposed to 15. Of course in this case it is irrelevant thanks to the lack of skill up event.
>>135183230
>said ”fuck it" and dumped my Doublefinger books to increase level for ranking
>maxed special halfway through
How're everyone's crocs looking? Only have 11 manuals, hope I can get a couple skillups
>>135184261
>got 13 chests in a row
REEEEEEEEEE
>>135178783
>>135175457
I'm staying in the Tokyo area the whole time. I will see the One Piece Tower, maybe I'll post pictures of it if you guys want.
>>135184261
>>135184559
I have the same sockets at the moment but I plan to replace auto heal with CD as soon as I get it.
>>135184261
Pretty good so far. He's been dropping more posters lately so that's nice
>>135184910
Buy me a chopper hat
>>135184261
>>135184559
>>135184985
I have CDR instead of matching orb. That should be ok right?
>>135185262
Yes. Matching orb is RNG so with it could come into play or it couldn't. With CDR, auto heal, despair, anti lock you are guaranteed to get a result.
got gold chests at kuma up for anyone
614 345 639
>>135186602
tapping
>>135186602
Thanks for the cola, m8
>>135186602
tapping
>>135184910
I definitely want to see a pic.
Sometime during the clash of clashes than
>>135186602
Tapping
>>135186602
thanks for the belli
>>135186602
Thanks for the beli
>>135186857
>>135187052
>>135187213
no problem guys, thanks for the keys and colas,
i still got two gold chests for anybody
>>135184261
3 Autoheal, 2 lock, 2 silence, 4 orbs. not too bad, and mr 1 has 1 heal 1 orbs as well
>>135184261
Really good, not sure if I should dump any more into him or start on striker croc though.
>>135177515
>>135179063
>>135184261
>tfw went through the hell that was pre-christmas box management with 35 Croco copies saved, when sockets were not even announced
>now I only need a couple more runs to finish socketing, without spending a single gem
and this kids is why you should always plan ahead
>>135184261
I have no sockets and no skill ups. So everyone is doing a lot better than I. I'm in a slump with this game so imma try and get back into the groove with cobymeppo fortnight.
>>135188834
>auto heal
Didn't plan well enough
>>135190445
Reddit is that way
>>135190445
>he's a CD memer
Reminder to use the slot planner; don't let calc anon's death be in vain
http://optc-db.github.io/slots
>>135173909
>run croc's 15stam fortnight 4 times a day minimum
>have only seen one daz the entire time
what's with the sudden influx of new players?
Just fed 3 Crocs: 2x EnvDamage and RCV boost
GODDAMMIT BAMCO
>>135194048
>4 times a day
What is the ideal rainbow slasher team for global right now? I know Inthawk and Doffy would be in there, Most of the QCK slashers have shitty specials so either doma for damage or halloween zoro, perhaps even Koza. PSY would be SW Shanks and it's not even close, Strength comes down to Arlong or maybe at a push Mr. 1. You could add in Slasherdile instead of QCK or PSY because they're so lackluster, I suppose. but that'd be 3 int if you went with double inthawk, or you could have one dexhawk one inthawk. ideas?
>>135195307
I've been using double mihawk, lucci, arlong, inthawk, vista and have had no problems so far
>>135195301
>minimum
>>135195609
>3 Mihawks
>>135194479
Our sexy OP images draw them in naturally
>>135195686
Shit meant croc not inthawk
>>135195686
it's a dumb frogposter
what do you expect
>>135195307
>SW Shanks
>not even close
Are you high?
Should I go for purple turtle Island or continue to farm croco-boy?
>>135196356
>should i farm turtles or farm a fortnight
I wouldn't imagine that being something you need us to answer, anon.
>>135196002
I mean it's the PSY choice and none of the alternatives come close. Clearly he's very strong, his special could be better, but his stats alone make him worthwhile if you can fit him (considering there's another legend and a raid boss at a higher priority level than him) but he is a legend, and there's no cut and dry replacement like there is for inthawk.
>>135196356
ITS TURTLE TIME BOY
>>135196713
>>135196985
You're right familia
>will finish socketing croc if not today then tomorrow
>will try to socket mihawk
>will farm 60 doflamingos and try maxmax him
the slashers are really coming together. Next on the list is probably socketing perona and alvida, waiting for T-bone and buster call.
Mind adding me to the Friend code list?
Sengoku hunter
339,898,424
>>135198230
>60 doffy's
Hope you got the time/gems because you'll need a lot of both.
So many Elder Turtles.
So close
>people still covering their name/gems
>>>/reddit/
>>135200159
>hide their crew name
>use tripcodes
>mfw
>>135200159
is that what they're doing? I thought they were just retards who were hitting the wrong part of the volume control while trying to screencap.
>>135200159
Sorry anon but my account is worth way more than your shitty F2P account.
>>135200159
>>135200512
>mfw i still see their pirate level
i'm hacking your account right now boys
>>135198907
gems yes, time also because it'll be friday
>>135200651
The fedora tippers at Reddit think your account is prone to account theft if someone knows your crewname and amount of gems. That is implying recovering an account doesn't take weeks and the level/beli/gems won't change in that time. There hasn't been a single case of account theft on /optcg/ since I've been here.
>303 words essay due tomorrow
>don't want to miss 2nd turtletime
>>135201109
>303 word essay
how's grade school these days?
>>135201109
>>135201230
Why are you falling for this old-ass meme
>>135201480
>damage control
>>135201076
You're right actually. I guess if you just migrate your account and someone report it stolen they could stole it from you. But if someone report it stolen and last time it was migrated was 3 months ago I don't see how they could get away with it.
>>135201696
Not only that, but if you have the reciepts from buying gems that also serves as proof that account is yours. So buying a few gems is actually a good idea if your account is worth it (if you want to be 100% secure).
>MFW I'm totally prepared to farm all the upcoming raid bosses.
Really wish we got a skill up event before but eh it can't be helped.
>>135202064
As someone who lost their account recently I can tell you that they ask for VERY specific things. Plvl, current captain, at least 3 members of that crew, people on your friends list, last mission you ran, Google receipts, and more. It took the 4 days of emailing back and forth to get it back so I can tell you it's just a meme
>>135202426
How did you lost it?
>>135202654
someone stole it with pirate crew and gem number
>>135202898
>>135202654
Swapped to my phone so I could farm at work and when I swapped back it said my new password was invalid. Missed all of BB when he came back last
>>135202898
>>135202898
>>135202898
Cause you had a bad day, you're taking one down, you sing a sad song just to turn it around.
>next event doesn't include a skillup either
>>135202226
Storm Pirates please be my wife. I don't care if you fuck black men, I just want to be your husband. I'll buy you any amount of gem bundles that you want and farm raid bosses for you.
>>135203545
you forgot to say nohomo
>no skillup event
>Mihawk, Doffy and Enel raids
Holy shit, RIP my fucking box space and gems.
>>135203545
I'm getting real tired of this meme.
>>135204307
My question is how the fuck do you still have box space? I ran out.
>>135203545
>fuck black men
I thought she just had a large insertion fetish. I didn't know she had a thing for bestiality too.
>>135200825
Is reddit fucking with us or this ironic?
>have to take a shit
>use toilet at my uni
>decide to farm while doing so
>decide to use doublefingered special because I rarely get good orbs
>miss my clicks because someone in the stall next to me is screeching as he shits
>I pause while he leaves
>miss another click because the auto flush sensor is offset half a meter from the center of the toilet
>use my jacket to cover the sensor
>barley beat croc by the skin of my teeth
>he drops yet another chest
>now I have shit all over my jacket
You guys are alright. Don't farm Croc.
>>135204565
Storm Pirates is the most perverted woman you would ever meet in these threads and the thing is she doesn't suck complete dick in the game considering the kind of captains she puts up for people.
>>135205979
>Got so many prisoner croc duplicates I max socketed Prison Croc, Slasherdile, Impactdile and maxed Prisoner Croc's special.
What fucking game are you losers playing? At the same time holy shit I've been getting skill ups for Mr. 1 and double finger. Maxed them up fast but convict Daz Bones only showed up once.
>>135204568
It's all trolls and shitposters and you idiots keep responding to them which makes you just as bad
>>135206543
I was just making sure, I won't reply to them again senpai
>>135206019
I heard she wants to try fucking a horse.
>>135208546
i'm gonna get you when you least expect it
>>135204565
>>135206019
>>135208792
>>135209020
You four are really starting to irritate me.
>>135206357
Getting beli bagged by that asshat all the time i only had 12 crocodile's
>>135209286
Implying its not Wpp in disguise samefagging
>>135206357
Is this a new mewmew?
>I still have yet to do missions for Shell Tower and Orange Town
Where should I start? Any units I should/must have? I already have a Gaimon.
Is there a good Robin yet?
>>135211181
The very first Robin.
>>135211181
Strong units. Weak units. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled player should try to win with their favorites.
>>135209286
Wait, so has it always been storm pirates using this rando hentai looking anime as an avatar?My dick is now diamonds
>>135211526
I know this Pokémon meme
>>135211181
v1 Robin is the only x2 Int special unit in the game
>>135211025
Mohji, an unevolved Mihawk, Cabin Boy Coby, the marine apprentices, Cabin boy Helmeppo, Yosaku/Johnny (only need one, and another as friend), Alvida, probably more I'm forgetting.