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Lord of the court edition

>Whats New:
Impactful balance patch
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20058183

Azmodunk Skin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSe3LWySKTM

>where do I find you panda-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/

Previously, on /hotsg/ : >>134911794
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>>135092608
>dat shop
nice
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th for memeslug
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Does the teamwork get better in Hero League? I can't fucking take this anymore.
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Third for nerfing Gazlowe with his unprecedented 100% tournament winrate
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>>135092770
It's like a year old, i just put the general logo on top of it.
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>>135092924
Not untill rank 5+
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>>135092968
oh, well in that case
fucking lazy ass piece of shit
i've never seen it before, i thought it was cool
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when the fuck is Li-Ming gonna get nerfed
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>>135092931
Reminder that Gazlowe uses his vast fortune to bribe Blizzard's devs into keeping him underpowered so he doesn't have to play a lot of games and can chill in the Nexus instead
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Xth for KINKY
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>>135092924
Just get friends
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>>135094265
My friends won't play this game.
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>>135094348
get new ones
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>>135094348
my friends and i all got hyped about
then they saw how expensive all the shit was
and most of them hated the talent gating

they've all gone back to league of legends and don't give a shit about heroes anymore

blizzard dun fucked up the release
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>135095140
why would you want another zeratul
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Be honest /hotsg/, are you one of those toxic players everyone keeps complaining about?
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>duo Azmodan and Raynor keep DCing at the same time so I assume they're just playing in the same house
>the DCs are literally nonstop
>they never say a word
>they just feed to hell and back
>late game Azmodan decides he's going to go solo the core
>waddles his way down mid, DCing as he goes, dies, rinse and repeat
>as the enemy team bears down on our core the raynor finally speaks up
>BG NOOBD

to be honest, if we'd tried to push with him, we probably would've won
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Where the FUCK is Tosh???
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>>135095919
right where he belongs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THWRV-vUyc
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Where the FUCK is _____?

seriously blizzard please address this problem, i know you're reading this thread.
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Where the FUCK is Garrosh?????
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>>135096084
They're not
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>>135096080
Not sure if thats canon.
Also.
>Choosing the bitch of nova
>Wanting to get the weak ghosts.
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Where the FUCK is Superman???
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>>135096084
They already can't balance for shit, if they would just release heroes faster this would be less of a problem.
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>>135096475
it's canon depending on the storyline.

you can choose to side with Nova or Tosh and the story (as well as the special ops units you can utilize in the campaign) changes based on who you side with
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Who is the best 10k gold hero to get? Who is the cutest? Who is the most fun?
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>>135092924
HAHAHAHAHA.

No. The problem with this game, someone pointed out before, is that they've been semi-catering to the casual crowd, and with that comes a very casual mentality about the game from the majority of players, and they can't quite grasp the concept of soaking properly, or how to play each map, or the fact that each map does actually play pretty differently, etc. Or even the ability to acknowledge whether or not your comp is good for the map's objective, and instead capitalizing elsewhere when the objective isn't an option for your team.
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>>135097630
greymane
li ming
greymane
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>>135097630
Should note I have Graymane, Li Ming, Lunara, Nova, and Sylvanas.
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>>135097630
>best 10K
Chen

>the cutest
Lunara

>the most fun
Kinky Bug
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>>135097630
>Best
Leming

>Cutest
Jaina

>Most fun
Jaina
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>>135097843
Chen is 7k, anon
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>>135098321
eh, fine I change my answer to Li-meme
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>>135097026
I'm like 70% sure Blizz has an official map for the choices Raynor makes in the campaign.
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PTR next week?
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>>135075129

Why is this a problem?
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>>135100360
bronzies don't know how to defend the core
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>last 6 games of my placement matches everyone but me is rank 10-12
>place at rank 17
????
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>>135103953
post battle tag
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Any opinions on Arthas?
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>>135103953
Did you lose those matches?
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>>135104174
he's exceptionally shit as solo tank
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I just finished my 12 placement match. Finished at 9 wins 3 looses. What is the max rank I can get placed at and what can I realistically expect with say15 wins 5 loses?

p.s. one of the games we lost we had the worst cho gall in existence.
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>>135104174
Needs some buffs.
He doesn't have the survivability of a tank, the damage of a bruiser or any stuns/displacements wich are almost mandatory in this stunburst meta.

>>135104954
It differs per person, You'll probably get placed a little lower then the regular ranks you're playing with in your last few matches.
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>>135104954
max rank to place at is 5
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Post your character list.
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HL:
>IT IS TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMEEEE
>MY REALM NEEDS ME
>RRRRRAAAAGGHHHHHHHH
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>>135105848
>Only tyr at 10
Not enough memes anon.
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>>135105848
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>>135105848
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>>135105848
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>>135105848

No bully pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKFjD28qPwQ
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>>135106436
damn son.
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>>135106436
jesus christ dude

go outside
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>>135105848
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>>135106578
HEY, he said no bully
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>>135106436
Stimpacks or what?
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>>135106957
It's not bullying. It's concern.
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>>135105848
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>>135107081

I party all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWa-6g-TbgI
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>>135105848
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>>135105848
this plus xul and cho'gall
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>>135107296
seek immediate help
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>>135107473
>tfw pogo
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You DO go Perfect Storm Muradin, right /hotsg/?
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>>135105848
lvl 20 golden portrait fucking when
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TURN ON ESPNU
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>>135107871
Any stream up for euros?
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>>135105848
I always play solo

I got 50k gold and no heroes I want to buy
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>>135108072
Buy the pig
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>>135106436
n-nice collection anon, good job!
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Who /Heroes of the Dorm/ here?
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>>135109013
stream?
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>>135109013
Not me
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>>135109013
>Bob ross fight club
>Real meme team
>First pick nova
>Team tilt
>Qbuildbrightwing
I love those teamnames
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>it's a "two teammates sit in lane and are late to the objective" episode
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>play Infest Zag
>keep dying from core diving with catapults
>teammates get super butthurt
>win anyway because the enemy team was shit and I'm good at Zag when I'm not dying semi-on purpose
>say "was just fucking around, yw for carry"
>even more butthurt
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>>135110207
Gotta love infest zagara, it's usually a 50/50 but people is so oblivious or when they're rushing core they think they can win and just keep pushing. When the shields are gone alongside 20% of core health, is already too late to hearth back
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>>135110501
I found it underwhelming, but it might have just been because it was Infernal Shrines. It's pretty hard to push on that map without the objective
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>>135092815
Kaz qt detected
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>>135107296
Qt 3.14 thisiga detected. Plx carry me and dubs in team meme
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>>135109653

I am the original HotS Bob Ross.

Nobody ever fucking gives me credit for it either.

Fuck that team.
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>>135111878
Nah, I'm trying for top 200 again so I gotta play a bunch of HL this month. Either way, I don't really see the point of playing TL unless I'm tryharding with a bunch of other high(ish) MMR players. Otherwise it's just 5stack QM with drafting, and I'd much rather just play whatever hero I want. I'd still be down for QM, though.
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>it's a "zag and aba try to backdoor the core with nydus but they're too retarded" episode

Good thing they were on the enemy team. I feel kinda bad for them.
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>>135095612

Not really. I just say things like "y-you too" when someone starts spamming the chat in russian
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your Semis and Finals brackets
post 'em
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>>135108072
buy chen he's one of the most fun heroes
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>>135096674

Hal shopped there gets me every time
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>USC
>Average deaths: 9
Lmao
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>>135112647
>hurr I saw that amazing strat in wtf moments xd

Fucking retards
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>>135113808
>CAL 1 makes it to the grand finals
>still lose 3:2 to the other team

ayyy, at least we agree there
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>>135113808
ment to quote >>135113148
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>>135113148
>>135113808
can we not submit our brackets yet?
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>Heroes of the dorm bracket reveal

Seriously? A big reveal for a fucking bracket? They should be revealing the next hero.
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>>135114498
i just submitted mine, and took a screenshot of my semis and finals as i posted that

since they've revealed the brackets, you should be able to submit it now, if not, clear your cache/cookies and try again
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Have you fug your dragon today ?
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>>135104174

He's my favorite character to play and even post-nerf I have a 75% WR with him but he needs some buffs. The scailing changes really fucked him over but he isn't as useless, he just needs either a damage and/or HP buff and he'll be good. Don't ever use him as a solo Warrior.
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>>135115665

>wanting a dmg buff on a CC tank that used to be the most broken fucking tank in the game

Yeah, no.
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>>135114707

I'm hoping Kel'thuzad in week or two and Tracer coming out in late April.
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>>135114707
>implying blizzard does any actual work anymore
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>>135115239
Waiting for a superior dragon
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>>135115810
>CC tank
>has a single root and the worst slow in the game
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>>135115810

Well he's probably the worst Warrior in the game atm, so he needs SOMETHING.
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>>135115810

>Arthas
>Tank

Even in his good days he was never an effective tank. You could sustain through a decent amount of punishment but he was not a tank.
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>>135104174
I am a massive Arthas fanboy and hes the only reason I was able to get into the game.

Without Arthas to play as I never would have bothered to get through my first few weeks of being a total useless scrub.

But now hes completely useless.

Whenever hes mentioned people say it's because of the scaling changes, can anyone go into more detail on those changes?
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>>135116180

>post launch scrub detected

He was literally unkillable in his original state. Almost every fucking match during alpha and CBT had an Arthas in it.
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>look at team
>avg deaths:1
>short game time
>their wins aren't anything crazy though

So did all these teams play the same amount of games or what? How can you be avg deaths of 1 but still lose in 15 minutes?
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>>135115937
>not even in her dragon form
You know a dragon is shit when it takes on the form of an inferior race .
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>It's a stitches doesn't land 1 hook episode
Only constant
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>>135116563
Quit living in the past gramps, arthas is shit right now he needs something to give him an edge.
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>>135116563

>post launch scrub detected

I've been playing since Alpha, dipshit. Tho I didn't play Arthas back then, tbf, I played Uther.
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>>135114707
As if Blizzard would put forth the effort of actually working on the game as opposed to working on the gigantic fucking commercials that are E-sports tournaments. You think trying to make a game better is what keeps Metzen's mansion running? Naive motherfucker.
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>>135116673

>lose objectives
>lose match
>even if you never die

It's pretty simple actually.
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>>135116878

i can't remember what it was called, but he had a talent that gave him more lifesteal than any of the assassins in the game.

If you paired it with his summoned zombies ult, the fucker could frequently 1v5 people.

FUCK

ARTHAS
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Is Kael'Thas aight?
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>>135117082
How can you lose the objective though if no one is really dying? Unless they just afk'd their matches it doesnt add up.
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>>135117789

Yeah he's still a great assassin, people pick Jaina and Li-ming over him now since he got nerfed.
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>>135117904

>fight on obj
>get hurt enough to where you have to retreat and heal
>lose obj

It's really pretty simple.
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>>135114965
Do I not get my portrait now?
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>you will never be this good
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>>135118362
it's buggy, some people get it, others don't
blizzard says "tough shit" to anyone who didn't get it
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>mfw kinky bug wins again

what u gonna do when I chew through lanes like a Li Li through fresh bamboo sprouts? can't kill me in one hit? have fun seeing my HP (Health Pharaos) go back to full in less than 2 secs.

*dives behind you* ssshhh... nuthin personnell... kid *softly cocoons you*
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>>135118737
you mean lucky?
it was an even fight for almost the entire engagement because gazlo bitched out
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>>135118848

Kinky bug is only good when the other team cant or won't CC him.

One well placed stun kills him deader than fuck.
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>>135118737

>get saved hard by abathur and raynor
>"omg guys Artanis is SOOOOOOO good!"

Pretty stupid fuckin' vid ya got there, Anon.
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Can Kharazim jump to a Healing Ward?
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>>135118017
then their healer is either a god or they are the most passive pussy team ever
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>>135119205
I survived maws and uther double stuns on nothing but bugs. kinky bug is immortal.
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I'm leveling medic, what talents do you go for afk healing?
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>lowest ranked on my team
>unironically the best player
>lose points because some guy got buttmad and threw
jesus fuck this is a MOBA not Psychiatry Simulator, why are people in this game so psychotic
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>>135120185
The community definitely got much worse after launch.
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>>135119496

yes
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>>135120185

>Running HL with pubs

YOU
ONLY
HAVE
YOURSELF
TO
BLAME
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>>135120398
>>135120398

Welcome to every MOBA ever, I remember LoL had a good community too before it became popular. It's only gonna get worse from here, boys, buckle up.
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>>135119486
I just tried, and it doesn't look like he's able to Q to his own healing ward.

Ward looks to grant vision, though. So you could probably drop it over a wall then Q to a mercenary, or whatever.
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>>135120398
It's the fate of ftp games, no exceptions.
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>>135121154
True that, thanks.
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i have never enjoyed a buff this much, mage falstad best falstad
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>>135122795
>that greymane
aaay lmao
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>>135120185

And that's why you find friends irl or online to play with in a moba. I recommend 2 or 3-stacking, I'd avoid 4-stacking because I swear the people who solo-que are the most miserable motherfuckers on the planet.
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>>135121153
But HotS is still in beta. Season 1 has yet to start, bans haven't been implemented, and there is no spectator system outside of custom games.
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>>135122795
I like how the Zagara player is named Zagara
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>>135123141

>But HotS is still in beta

It really feels like it still is, doesn't it?
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What's the general difference between a HotS hero's full kit (level 20 with a build that isn't shit) and a LoL/DotA2 champ's in terms of power & complexity
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>when your team feeding and arguing all game but your mosh pits on point and you carry everyone
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>>135122917
I just like taking my Nazeebo out for a spin every other day and having a great time ;-;
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>>135123381
>when ETC's moshes are adequate and you carry everyone by playing Rehgar
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>>135123631

>when ETC's mosh pits everyone and then you time your root to keep the enemy team stuck even longer.
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>>135123372
>Tfw HotS was way more fun and balanced in Alpha and closed Beta

I want to go back.
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>>135123796

I dunno about more balanced, but it was more fun and the community was exceedingly less shitty.

Also people were less tryhardy back then and people would just play who they wanted to play.
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>>135123796
Okay guys, who is drawing these? I need a name, a site or a deviantart or some shit.

Thank you
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>>135122795
Build?
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>tfw taking Colossal Totem at level 1 instead of Electric Charge or Lightning Bond
at last I truly see
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>>135123796
Wasn't balanced but you didn't have to fight 3 burst mages every match. It was definitely more enjoyable than it is right now.
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>>135124234
http://law-esper.tumblr.com/
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>>135122795
I'm honestly a bit lost here.

Did they buff alternative talent choices on strong, relatively popular Heroes that already had multiple builds, while completely ignoring Heroes that take talents 90%> of the time?
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are 4 mans supposed to be literally shit at the game?
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>>135126079
you're just shit anon, me and my 3 friends are really good. Reported
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SON OF A BITCH
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>>135125034
it tends to be a snowball effect
>strong or otherwise interesting hero starts lagging behind
>they get reworks/buffs because they're still popular
>new heroes outclass them
>they get reworks/buffs because they're still popular, cycle continues
Hence unpopular shitters like Arthas tend to stay unpopular shitters because they have less reason to buff them, even if they've said they're going to for months now.
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>>135126431
>stim
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>>135126798
>not being a goodgoy and buying the 360 day stimpack
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>>135123164
Yeah they're an odd one.
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>>135124319
Gathering Storm > Flow Rider > BOOMerang > Ult > Giant Killer if warrior comp, otherwise Thunderstrikes > Aerie Gusts > Lvl 20 talent
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>>135118737
That webm is literally when Artanis was the new broken hero, and he have bug at that time, you can do that anymore.
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KINKY!
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>>135122795
>you will never get high as balls with forever on promethazine codine syrup while you eat out some fat assed Latin big booty bottom bitch
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>Nature's Toxin's damage against non-Heroic targets by 200%.
>lvl 7
Lunara pretty much becomes the one of the best specialist at 7 with that talent. How much do think blizz will nerf Nature's Culling on the next hero patch?

that and gust?
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>>135127097
>become half zerg
>papa aby gives you all sorts of neat mutations
>linked in to the hivemind so you never die
>spend the rest of this mortal cycle mixing dna with my harem of broodmamas
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this shit tilted me like no other it's all i could think about. we lost to a 4 fucking specialist team meme with a level 20 fucking gazlowe
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>>135129419
>4 people on the other team with 1698 MMR
what the fuck?
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>>135129419
2nd time we lost. 4 specialist 1 healer new meta. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>135128058

I wouldn't be surprised, because it seems like she was picked almost exclusively for that talent in the recent tournament, or perhaps I just didn't see the Wild Vigor. Might end up seeing it dialed back to 125/150%.

On the topic of Lunara; why isn't her wisp "1", like Xul's Bone Shield? Could they just not think of another button, or something?
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>>135129625
>same 4 people jumped from 1698 to 1977
kek
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What is the best map and why is it Towers of Doomâ„¢?
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>>135129625
Maybe you should go solar. Might win games more often
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Raven Lord > Beleth > Captain Blackheart > Ra > Grave Keeper > Garden Lady > Ilarian

prove me wrong
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>>135129625
<2k mmr
>losing with xul, liming, and rehgar
bro just quit
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Did they just change Tyrael's demon skin?
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Does Lunara's "Nature's Culling" work on the dragon in dragon shire?

Last match I took it and I don't think it did.
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>>135131003
They changed it last summer.
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>>135131160
the Dragon Knight is counted as a hero for targeting purposes
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>>135131160

I don't know, but to add to your question; does Leoric's Drain Hope affect the Garden Terror, or Dragon Knight?

Because I'm pretty sure that I've seen his W hit the big plant. Not sure about the DK, though.
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>>135130915
Garden lady is actually the best, Raven Lord is up there too.
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>>135107296
gas this panda
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>>135107296
You're doing god's work.
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>working on camp for 30 sec
>finally done
>they're in lane for 0.3 seconds before some purple orb from across the map hits them and they're gone
>oh and that shot also took me to 35% which a laser is rectifying right now

I literally don't even care anymore about winning. A game is a success if there's no Li Ming on the other team. Sadly that means I'm going at a 5% rate
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Delete one or maybe two of Jaina, Kael'Thas or Li-Ming
Please
For the sake of the game do this
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>>135130915
This is completely accurate.
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>>135128058
I never tried this talent because I always build lunara straight attack speed assassin but I might try building her as a straight specialist in QM now after seeing this
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>>135131685
>Space created?
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>>135131685

Isn't the idea to grab camps prior to objectives, forcing them to decide between fully contesting the objective or losing towers?

Or maybe if all lanes are soaked, and there isn't anything else really happening.
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>>135131713
Jaina is completely balanced. Kael'Thas isn't even a factor in this game. Li-Ming AT WORST needs maybe a 3-4 second cooldown on Critical Mass.

Shut the fuck up.
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Boy is that Urgot in the OP?!
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>>135131997
I am fully convinced that people who bitch about Mages as a general concept and not just Li-Ming are all Wood Tier and have literally no idea how to position and stand in both waves of Blizzard because they're fucking retarded.

Fun Fact: Zagara is a more powerful hero than Li-Ming. Higher winrate in Masters, higher first pick-rate then any of the Mages. Higher banrate than any of the Mages. You just don't know this because Zagara doesn't blow up retards who stand half a screen in front of their tanks.
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>>135131997
I'm just pissed because there hasn't been a game that I haven't had to play against one of the above since li-ming came out
That, and while they all feel different to play, they all feel very similar to play against
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>>135132365
>comparing apples to oranges
>Zagara, literally the best specialist in the game since launch
>(except for that 1 month when Sylvanas was fotm)
>Li-meme, mage that's more glass cannon than jaina
ok

Li Ming is shit
Zagara is and has always been god tier
comparing the two just makes you look like a retard
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>join a qm match
>master nova on enemy team
>shoots down top back fort wall
>spends entire game just walking into back fort with clone and trying to cheese the fort
>kill her with 2 auto attacks every time
>we're 5 levels ahead by the end of the game
is this some new meme build that is getting popular?
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>>135131318
>>135131330
Okay yeah I just played the match and it doesn't, also yes, Leoric's W does hit dragon but not sure if it does % health damage, but it looks like it did quite a bit when they enemy Leoric used it on ours.
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>>135133230
works for li ming
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>Abathur clone talent clearly says 20% ability power
>Li Ming clone takes my Raynor from 100% to 20% with 2 skills
I'd like to say this doesn't add up, but that seems spot on for 1/5 of Li Ming's bullshit power
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>>135133710
DK and Terror take half damage from %health abilities.
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Is Tyrande's attack buff aura talent as good as I think it is?
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>>135136118
Not really, after they nerfed a lot of her talents and her AA you generally just go owl build on her now with overflowing light at 13 and either the range on the stun at 7 or bm. They wanted to get rid of talent diversity. If you have a lot of auto attackers it's not bad though.
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>>135136118
It's good, but not in every situation. Only take it when you have one or more ranged AAers on the team (raynor, greymane, valla, etc).
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>>135136118
sentinel is almost always better unless you have like 2 aa heroes
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Well, aa Valla's pretty beast once qm gives you a actual balanced party and not a shitty wet paper bag assassin deathmatch.
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THE SKELETON KING CALLS YOUR NAME
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>>135136889
>Stop being such a fucking casual Kevin. Serve your king!
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>>135136494
>They wanted to get rid of talent diversity

Except the only talents they nerfed were the ones you listed that she should take. They only nerfed stun range talent, mark cd talent, and overflowing light. They didn't reduce her AA whatsoever, either.
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>>135136773
In QM if you have an assassin deathmatch it's nice to pick up the aa heal at 4 and then the discipline heal at 13, you heal so much.
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>>135137085
fuck off Terrance
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>>135137159
Yes, they reduced her baseline AA, they also did a general nerf to focused attack so you don't pick that up anymore on her. On Tyrande you mostly go owl build, her damage is too low to really go AA tyrande. Yes they got rid of talent diversity on her, you still take overflowing light because her healing is so low before that unless you aren't the solo healer, shadowstalk is about a 700 heal over 8 seconds at 20 and that's more of a gank/escape tool than an actual heal, but starfall is just so bad there is no reason to take it.
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>>135137627
I was wrong about the aa, I looked back and saw they did reduce it, but it was a really small nerf. Not much of anything, really. Also, good Tyrandes never took FA even before the nerf. If you wanted to go damage tyrande you took searing attacks, not FA. AA Tyrande was always bad. The nerfs didn't change that. Overflowing light isn't as necessary now because they buffed her base heal and reduced the overflowing light heal. I'm pretty sure they also nerfed shadowstalk, but starfall is still worse than it, true.

All they did was nerf the most popular talents on her at the time.
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Which 10k do I buy? I don't own any of them.
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>>135138441
Greymane
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>>135138441
wait for xul's price to drop
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>>135138441
The one you like the most. If you haven't found one you like, just save the money
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this girl chu8 shaving her head on stream
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>>135138441
if you don't play the game much wait for tracer to completely kill this game and have 80% winrate

but that's like a month plus away so if you play a lot just buy one now and save up again
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>>135138040
She had much more talent diversity at all levels of play prior to her nerfs. AA tyrande was even played in tournaments because she had pretty decent damage, and you saw many different builds, even at level 1. A baseline nerf to her AA did get rid of that build, you generally only have 2 talent options at each level now.

Nerfing her damage made it so now she is pigeonholed into an owl spamming healer, instead of a damage support. While she still does okay damage for a support her damage talents are a weak pick. Her talent diversity has been greatly reduced where you would see much higher pickrates at each level, you now only really take 1 or 2.
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>>135138817

i miss when people would go seasoned on spider queen for tyrande
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>>135138815
>80% winrate
Wouldn't this be difficult to get since any game with the hero on both sides would make the winrate trend towards 50% and if it's obviously OP you would probably see her on both teams in nearly every game

That is if they don't leave out mirror matches from the winrate calculations
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>>135139184
>LEVEL ONE ULTIMATE
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>>135139184
I think he meant HL but overall yeah it would cap around 50-60%
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>>135139320
it's not power creep because it's only as good as a regular ability until level 10
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>>135138815
>wait for tracer to completely kill this game and have 80% winrate
can't wait, she sounds like the most unfun hero to play against so far, triple blink and spray and pray all the time!
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Why does every retard play the Starcraft heroes? Every dipshit I encounter is playing Tychus, Raynor, or Morales. Never fails.
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>>135139508
honestly I'm more afraid of her blink.
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>>135138530

Make the nexus Grrreat again.
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>that feel when Lunara isn't very strong or that great but I can't stop playing her

C-could she have become my waifu at some point?
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>>135139518
Don't forget she can rewind all the burst damage you put onto her with an additional ability from level 1 and no resource. In LoL the ability to rewind all the damage done to you is someone's ultimate and she gets it as a baseline ability.
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>>135139508
to be fair Xul has 6 (5 + passive) abilities for no reason and nobody seems to care about that, just his root

I think it's more about how OP the ultimate is rather than the fact that you have it at level 1
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>>135139683
She is cute and fun so probably.
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>>135139683
play specialist lunara and get 250k-300k siege damage
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Wait, is there actual info about Tracer out or are you just speculating based on her Overwatch skills?
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How long will it be until they start releasing "season passes" for heroes and bundles?
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>>135139970
there's actual info out, but people are assuming a lot. There's basically only 2 paragraphs that tell you that she will have a level 1 ultimate and a few talents she'll come with. The things people are assuming is the rewind giving back health and the fact that she'll actually be any good but based on li ming and xul's releases she probably will
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>>135139863
Of course. I think I like hopping around too much

>>135139871
I do on certain maps. On some, like Towers of Doom, I prefer the auto damage.
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>>135139970
Yeah it was posted last week they did an interview on some game site.

- triple blink
- rewind damage
- AA on the move in "true fps fashion"
- no mana, does a reload mechanic instead
- ult at level 1 you upgrade it at level 10

I think that was about it. It sounds like a horribly overpowered design, but if she does no damage it's probably fine
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>>135140179
The hop is definitely the best
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reported chu8 for non gaming content FeelsGoodMan
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>>135140991
How fucking incompetent can he be? It was like watching a 9 year old trying to do it.
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>Be a warrior
>Retreating from a fight that isn't going our way
>As we're backing, i get behind my team obviously
>Throw X skill to slow/cc the enemy
>All my teammates just fucking dive in because they think i want to re-engage
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>>135115810
>>135117250
>a hero was OP once so he should be completely useless forever and always as punishment
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>>135115810
He was only strong at the same time stitches was strong, Arthas was never the strongest, stitches was far stronger.
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>>135142291
That's pretty much wrong. Arthas was the best tank for a long long time.
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Who was this meme again?
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>>135143758
No he wasn't, stitches had more damage and survivability with the hook. Arthas was never better than him.
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>>135143852
>used to have 2 health bars
>nerfed to the ground

>blizzcon '15
>we have plans to bring Tychus back and make him an anti-tank threat
>nothing in 5 months
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>>135143928
Pretty sure it was the huge as fuck spammable stun that made him the best.
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>Zag takes Nydus Worm and makes NO use of it
>Zag walks around the map aimlessly, not even mounted most of the time
>doesn't put down any fucking creep anyway so i don't know what she was even doing
>Zag tries to fight valla 1v1 constantly and even tries to fight her 1v2 when valla has a johanna with her
>Zag gets confused when she dies and just blames valla every. single. time.
>Zag offers literally nothing in team fights
>on top of that, have a dogshit raynor (big surprise), a diablo that uses his ult to clear waves and camps, and a bad sylvanas that at least tried her best and didn't fall to negativity
>check their profile after the game
>has lost the past 12 games, one of which was versus ai
>game still manages to drag on and on, our core was at 2% for like 10 minutes

I'm not even that mad because it was just a QM but what the fuck. I'm in awe.
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>>135143963
I still not sure who are you talking about.
Who or what is this tychus?
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