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THE DECISION 2
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Previously:
Offseason setting in
Babby/fetus discussion
Weeb garbage
/cgl/ revival shut down
gas all weebs
2nd for Chen
why is GB so cute bros
5th for /c/ manager should kill themself
>>135074949
>weeb garbage
Can you just fucking stop!?
>Fire Emblem girls now on /c/
I'm onto your spamvoting Twinky
>>135075135
where's the porn
>>135075450
meant for >>135075125
nth for great OP
>>135075450
Warning, extremely lewd.
>>135076174
DELETE THIS
>>135076648
Never
nth for bent's proposal is garbage that will lead to arbitrary decisions and personal accusations
there's no need to introduce some complicated algorithm to decide who plays in the Babbys. Bottom 16 teams play in a qualifier, if a big market team is there, who cares?
>>135077672
>will lead to arbitrary decisions and personal accusations
So nothing new for /merit/?
>>135077712
Exactly. Fuck 'em.
>>135077672
>>135077712
Basically, typical /merit/
>make baseless personal accusations
>use them as """"""evidence"""""" for shitty decisions
>seek to overcomplicate things that really don't need to be overcomplicated
/merit/ is what's killing the cup#BringBackCockChopper
This is FAN CLUB nation reporting to you live in /vg/.
Champion's League is on the way for /mlp/ on the 26th, and we are enlisting you to help spread the word to /mlp/ about the Champion's League matchup with /asp/! We believe that Paval's new league will help fellow anons learn more about the cup through this invitational event, and we encourage you to make one thread with a standard OP with schedule and links to further the cup to newer audiences. Thank you for taking the time to read through our request and we hope to see you for /mlp/ vs /asp/ on the 26th of March!
>>135068556
>http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:ShiggyGiddy/Babby_Qualification
Giving a panel of person the power to decide which teams are allowed to be in will just lead to even more accusations of rigging.
Qualifiers is everything you need and notably they can serve to regulate the number of teams so that babbys always have 32 active teams.
Of course that mean getting rid of autopilot spots including for qualifiers; a team can only play if it has a manager. If a manager shows up to revive a team, he'll have to be present for the whole of the qualifier to even have a chance to advance to the following babby.
>tfw not sure if I found someone from /4ccg/ on another board
>>135077712
It does because Boris doesn't want /co/ in fetus, so he has /merit/ trying to find alternatives.
Basically he shat on bigmarket fans for years and now he discover is not fun when the shoe is on the other foot.
It has been traditional to post one's machines of hype to /f/ post-Cup. But alas time marches on and ongoing developments in futuristic hype technology has left old and busted Flash in the dust for the new hotness of OPENGL AND JAVA. So you get a mediafire link instead.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8bsxdrrhtk2ctkl/hypemachine.3.05.jar
Spoiler: you need to install Java to run a Jar. Crazy I know rite
Astute observers of the spritesheet may notice there were a few extra bits planned for HM3 that didn't make the cut; regrettably I came down with a big-ass cold the 2nd weekend of the Cup when I was planning to do most of the coding work and was basically useless, and I had already booked a CA trip for the knockout weekend, so Bors kinda ended up with the somewhat minimally valid implementation I was able to get together at the last minute.
RIPIP:
The Akkarin fadeout
Opening #2: Dash crashes into title and is ded
Opening #3: Rarity fixes the title because in lieu of actually learning anything about the relevant character dynamics of a cartoon aimed at pimping pastel colored merchandise to girls age 6-13 I elected to go with "hey, let's make this horse named Rarity appear rarely"
Opening #4: Sou fixes the title by murdering everyone
New pics for /d/ and /an/ (I actually do want to draw Giroud the vet)
Also I am not entirely sure I remembered my trip accurately but I guess I'll find out
>>135078575
Even though I agree that qualifiers should be enough, we need to get rid of trwmst with no aesthetics.
>>135078840
Who?
Where?
>>135079154
stay ded
>>135079154
Nice, now I can actually watch the final hype machine without boris' computer breaking the fabric of time
>>135079154
good work on the hyp machine. Will you be sticking around for spring?
>tfw your team is in spring
>>135079154
Was it worth a ban?
>>135078856
>Basically he shat on bigmarket fans for years
When big market fans act as fucking delusional and retarded as they do, they deserve nothing more.
>>135079243
But who doesn't have aesthetics anyway ? At the moment only /int/ so just warn them that they should have aesthetics for spring otherwise they're disqualified, and that's it.
For those in need of comf and/or PTSD http://www.hitbox tv/Comfy-Superzak
>>135079154
Save us from the ded boards.
>>135078518
>everyone in Group A is Babbies
>three of the four in Group B got relegated this cup
I'm guessing "champion's" league is a subjective term
>>135079154
>an opening where sou murders all the horses
What could have been
>>135079656
All the other shitty babby teams. Like, I don't care for /i/ or /gif/, but l will take the team with some blenders over the other rather than have two bad managers play habbo hotel against each other to figure out who gets to play
>>135078856
/a/ and /sp/ in the Babbys
>Fuck them, fans don't mean shit, /a/ and /sp/ need to git gud if they want to play in the Elites again. Don't think you will be getting a free pass everytime just because you have fans
/co/ in the Fetus
>Dead teams with no fans denying big market teams a spot in a Cup is a very serious problem and we must do something about it. Teams with a decent following from their respective board desrve a free pass
Classic Boris
>>135079656
/lit/, /e/, /trv/, /adv/, /gif/, /i/ don't have aesthetics right now since they either didn't play in any invitationals or friendlies or submitted nothing
>>135080797
Then disqualify them outright, why need a panel ?
>>135076174
>somebody saved my pic
I feel loved
>>135081045
>disqualifying teams before any dates are even set
You're sure a smart man aren't you
>>135079154
>futuristic
>Java
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAA
Why cannot I download the teams exports for winter 16? Are they only up for a limited time period? The task is shown in BitComet but it says the file is not on the website anymore.
>>135081221
I mean, if they sign up without aesthetics, disqualify them.
>>135081586
Why should you, /mlp/? The cup is over.
>>135081707
it's just hessen trying to copy /fit/ stuff for spring
>>135079154
Dunno. Might be off traveling again, especially if Spring gets held in early summer as Cup standard operating procedure tends to roll.
>>135079527
Considering that was my first post on 4chan in like at least half a year, I think I'll survive a timeout for incidental horse content if so levied.
>>135080202
Honestly, and this is just off the top of my head, here's a change I'd make (although it's too late to implement it in Spring without some justified complains from certain affected teams)
Key point: Only top 8 (i.e. QF winners) stay up in the Elite Cup
Babby is 12 groups of 4 (cuts down to 72 matches from current 8x5's 80)
Babby pot 1: elite cup places 9-20
Babby pot 2: elite cup places 21-32
Babby pot 3: 1st 12 of 24 that did not promote from last babby
Babby pot 4: 2nd 12 of 24 that did not promote
I think the general long term trend of this Hiro guy being open to new boards means that 56 teams is the new 48. The "better" thing about the original Babby IMO is that you had a 50% chance of promotion, which this restores.
The argument that keeping 16 teams up makes the Elites better is a little bit weak; arguably keeping the ones that did well in group AND won a knockout makes the Elite quality even more elite, plus even if you finished 1st in an Elite group and then crashed out in the Ro16 you become a babby pot 1 and all you have to do to get back is finish 1st OR 2nd in an easier group than the one you just topped.
>>135081281
You have accurately spotted the use of sarcasm capitals, good job
Bring Swiss
>>135079154
how do I pick the different teams? I can't get any matchup except /an/-/wsg/
>>135081830
meant
>>135079387
Anyway with 12x4 this does make the Babby KOs a bit wonky. (I did say off the top of my head.)
So I would do this:
12 group winners: into KOs
Best 4 of 12 group 2nd placers (by the usual points/GD/GF sorting): into KOs
Worst 8 of 12 group 2nd places: no KOs, go straight to Elite pot 4
Then into the KOs you have the Ro16 losers into Elite pot 3, everybody in the QFs into elite pot 2, and the 8 that stayed elite are obviously pot 1.
>>135081707
>>135081789
PES 16 will be used for more tournemants and I want to test again some good teams instead of building my own.
>>135082287
Oh right.
It's 1 2 3 7 0 as usual, but instead of clicking on something to pick the 1 2 3 part you use left arrow and right arrow to go through the selections, then spacebar to confirm.
>>135081830
>Key point: Only top 8 (i.e. QF winners) stay up in the Elite Cup
Thank fuck somebody finally said it.
>>135082546
>right and left arrows
the one thing I didn't try, thanks
>>135081830
>Key point: Only top 8 (i.e. QF winners) stay up in the Elite Cup
I like this, but the reason i like it is the very reason it wont happen
Who /killingthecup/ here?
New elite teams when
>>135081830
>The "better" thing about the original Babby IMO is that you had a 50% chance of promotion, which this restores.
There was also the right amount of teams, and if we had a competent host (good joke, I know), we could put the fanless teams on coma status and then let the new teams have a chance in their place, somehow rotating the teams if necessary.
So, this still doesn't address the problem with there being too many teams in the cup.
>>135083205
>So, this still doesn't address the problem with there being too many teams in the cup.
It's the *4chan* divegrass cup. There's no such thing as too many teams. Only a contrived idea of how much a layman thinks they can handle before getting board as if they're obligated to watch.
>>135083205
Nothing will address that because /merit/ will instantly veto it.
>>135083205
>too many teams in the cup.
>having a 4chan cup
>not planning for the eventuality that EVERY board will want in
>>135083694
but we already have a few boards that don't care at all
>>135083530
There are too many teams.
There are also too many boards.
>>135083694
>EVERY board will want in
More like EVERY autist will want their own team.
>>135083839
And?
>>135083839
WHO CARES ABOUT BOARDS?
ADD MORE TEAMS!
ALL THE BOARDS NEED TEAMS!by the way, i am tired of streaming, so we need to change how the cup is done, we are going to use swiss from now on, if you don't agree then you are a shitposter
Who /a/ here
>>135084106
>>135084106
Not me, I actually like anime.
>>135083985
They should be removed because it's a waste of time for the viewers and hosts of streams to have matches for teams that no one cares about.
I mean, I'm no cup history revisionist, but I'm fairly sure this cup didn't get big with matches like /adv/ vs /soc/ in the first cup.
>>135084249
/a/ is not /v/
>>135084272
joke's on you: /s/, /soc/, and /adv/ are all Original 16 teams
>>135084591
And their fanbases are all about the same since then, thus proving my point.
>>135084591
yes but 0 people cared about them and for the most part 0 people still care
>>135084590
Indeed, it's the complete opposite, which is far worse.
/v/ calls great games shit. You end up playing the "shit" game and it turns out to be great. Pleasant surprise!
/a/ calls shit anime great. You end up watching the "great" anime and it turns out to be shit. Time wasted!
>>135084591
They were also removed for having no interest and replaced with /tg/ /co/ /o/ and /jp/.
>discussion about removing teams is at its peak when big market teams are doing bad
Every fucking time
>>135085204
Maybe they think if enough teams are removed there won't be enough for a Babby and force the horsefuckers up top to push them into the Elites.
>>135084106
/a/ is awful.
>>135085204
Hey, it worked for /w/ to avoid playing Fetus last year.
are rule discussions this week or next week?
>>135085536
Why is /w/ suddenly considered the deadest of dead teams? When teams who don't even poll exist?
>>135085536
and it might just work again this year
>>135085204
>/big market/ gets btfo for being bad
>"waaah change the rules to accommodate us!"
Fucking pathetic.
>>135085612
the 19th
>>135085820
>waah my irrelevant board should be grandfathered into a permanent place over newer, more popular boards because Boris was a short-sighted dope who added too many pointless teams
>>135085820
>/sp/ managers past dragonfag don't last for more than 2 cups and every good /sp/artan has fucked off to another board they go to
>/a/ fans and even managers blame everyone and everything but their own shitty selves
>/int/ has zero help and someone who runs basically the same tactics every cup
>/k/ are the same, except their tactics are even worse than /int/'s because holy shit at least 4-4-2 can fucking attack
Well, that was that, we got done with all of Index S1.Seems like most people left just before the end, but that's OK.
Again, I hope it served as entertainment for whoever watched it. I might do another animu marathon stream in other weekends without virtual divegrass.
>>135085620
Lear's in /merit/ now.
>>135086098
>irrelevant board that plays well, wins games and goes far
VS
>big board that doesn't
>>135086384
Reminder Lear turned into an asshole the moment he joined /merit/
>>135086526
word
>>135086526
Where is he being an asshole? Legitimately curious. All I've seen is >le official posts.
>>135086407
>muh skill in PES
I wish we had a league format so retards would finally see how little difference there is between teams.
>>135086726
He called SDA a merc in the IRC because /y/ didn't have enough fans.
>>135086874
>how little difference there is between teams
Then how do you explain consistently good teams like /mu/ and /u/ who have gotten results over multiple versions of PES?
>>135087257
>/y/
>SDA
top meme
>>135086874
>my team is shit, so it's all luck
>>135087315
Luck.
>>135086726
If there's a circlejerk you're not in, Lear is an asshole in it.
>>135087439
>>135087257
DF does that all the time and he's le haha top banter lad.
>>135086098
So this is a popularity contests now?
>>135087761
DF doesn't manage a team with less fans than /y/
>>135087967
Yes he did.
Several times.
Also post quotes.
my cock is much bigger than yours
I'd say
>DF doesn't manage a team
But we all know he's still somewhere out there, and nobody noticedOr they actually did but nobody cares
>>135087315
Every elite cup, 16 teams advance to a second elite cup.
Assuming PES is completely random, 50% of those teams will advance again, so 8 teams should be in three elite cups in a row. 4 teams should play in four consecutive elite cups, 2 teams in a fifth, and 1 team should expected to make 6 elite cups in a row.
(And the actual numbers are not too far off from this.)
It would be more shocking if their were no "consistently gud" teams.
>>135088057
<Boris>I didn't watch the show, but i enjoy the porn
<KingLear>Me too.
>>135087967
/y/ had a tread in Autumn that was SDA dumping porn, DF insulting SDA and one anon saying SDA was breaking the board rules.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/european-giants-plotting-revamped-champions-7260605#EzHx1zZVmoWpr3Aq.97
I don't understand the problem. So what if a big market team doesn't manage to get out of the Fetus? Except for a few teams, which seem to be constantly good or bad, most get mixed results. With any chance, that same team will get out of it next cup.
>135088225
><Boris>
><KingLear>
>names that they don't actually use on IRC
>IRC quote
(You) tried senpai, but not hard enough to earn this one
>>135088389
Some people have extreme reactions to /theirteam/ being a miserable fuckup
>>135088389
big market teams won't go in the foetus.
Let me just say in this shitposting thread to say...Make /sp/ great againBecause somebody has to
>>135088182
I'm the /fa/ manager.
>>135088526
And yet here we stand, with /co/, /vg/, and /v/ all gearing to play in a fetus while being solidly mid market teams if not big market
Make/hm/great again.
>>135088389
if anything, being in a fetus might convince /v/ and /vg/ managers to actually try to submit a decent export for once. Even if they just copy /fit/ or something
>>135088389
Because if, say, /vg/ doesn't make it out of there, then the one that will take their place is some irrelevant garbage like, I don't know, /hr/, /gif/, take your pick.
Big market teams shouldn't get a free pass to the Elites, but they should get one for the Babbies at the very least.
Reminder Lear told Boris to not change the rules for Winter, causing BGP another autism attack and /mlp/ using all their riggybucks to save their favorite manager.
>>135088705
And?
>>135078518
Shove your fan club up your ass.
>>135088807
No they shouldn't, this isn't popularity contest. Results are what matters, not imaginary "fans."
Why not contribute big market fans?
Become testers, help your team climb up and earn their place in the elites.
>>135088732
>Even if they just copy /fit/ or something
Not exactly the best idea there, considering /fit/ had livemanagement that didn't go full retard and likely would be playing in Spring without such a thing
>All this shit because Boris wants /co/ to not miss a babby.
/4ccg/ please.
>>135089135
yeah, the real template for copying is /u/ or /out/
>>135088862
And more people would rather rig it for the big markets than watch le ebin small board merc teams. Your opinion is shit and irrelevant.
>>135088807
But the cup is a tournament, not a democracy. The whole point of a tournament is competing. And it's not like, say, /gif/ is the best team in the cup who always wins every elite. They might get their lucky run, win a babby, that's it. Next season, another team will win.
>>135089357
>And more people would rather rig it for the big markets than watch le ebin small board merc teams. Your opinion is shit and irrelevant.
Maybe more /a/ and /sp/ fans would want that, but last time I checked most of the people who actually watch the cup don't want it to be legitimately riggedand I can't blame /a/ and /sp/ fans for wanting to rig themselves into being good for once. Deluding themselves, sacking everyone and their mother for existing, and blaming everything but themselves must get fucking tiring
>>135089571
>But the cup is a tournament, not a democracy.
If that is true, how come the team with most votes in /merit/ is also THE Premier team in the cup?
>>135089271
Still not a good idea because livemanagement that didn't go full retard.
>>135089861
how can they be THE PREMIER TEAM IN THE CUP if they crashed out in the round of 16?
>>135089741
>/a/ and /sp/ fans
We're discussing rigging it for /co/, /v/, and /vg/, dipshit.
>>135089861
/fit/ has control of /merit/?
How bout yall calm the fuck down
>>135089861
When was /fit/ voted that? I must've missed it.
>>135090062
there is no export that can save going full retard on matchday
>>135090214
>>135090130
>Being so salty you refused to admit /mlp/ is the best team.
Oh, /4ccg/, you are always so tsundere /)
>>135089741
>last time I checked most of the people who actually watch the cup don't want it to be legitimately rigged
Bent's poll was pure bias-confirmation.
>>135090175
Fucking hell, I come back to this thread and I read your posts, and you're STILL going at this shit? Listen dude, I don't know who shoved that giant spiked stick up your ass but you need to mellow the fuck out. If all you're going to contributing to this event is blowing shit way out of proportion, making retarded assumptions, and generally being a whiny little bitch faggot, please, feel free to stop watching and leave these threads. Nobody will miss you, you oversensitive crybaby. The cup isn't gonna live and die on your fucking terms, and if you honestly, sincerely think that I would rig against /sp/, a board I don't give much of a particular shit about to begin with, based on a completely non-existant basis, you need to get a god damn head check. Oh, and by the way, you might wanna check up the definition of weeaboo; it means someone obsessed with japanese culture, not someone who posts reaction images from anime. Said pictures which apparently get you SO FUCKING MAD that you begin shitposting about inane garbage with no basis in reality and throwing conspiracy theories around about the cup... because they are pictures from something you don't enjoy, and posted in the thread which has no god damn relation to the actual cup - you know, the thing going on in a stream? I suggest you take a walk and get some fresh air and re-evaluate why you think that a person posting a certain kind of picture makes you so fucking upset, and why it makes you think it would affect their actions in running a competition, a competition by the way, that said person cares enough about to sacrifice a lot of his free time and money on to keep from dying a sudden death, any fucking different. So please, if all you do is get butthurt over literally NOTHING, find something else for entertainment.
>>135090285
No, but there are managers that can save an export going full retard on matchday.
Which [hot opinions from this point on] the Babbies simply don't have, because they wouldn't be in the Babbies if they did.
In b4 /out/, they're unlikely to ever see a Babby again.
>>135090309
And was right after Boris claimed polls don't mean shit.
>>135090664
there are some very good managers in Spring (CP, Vaughan, and Dakka especially), but you are correct that the types who would just copy a successful export likely don't have what it takes to emulate that success fully.
Also /out/ are anything but a sure thing to stay good, especially considering their history.
>>135090664
>[hot opinions from this point on]
But your first statement was also hot opinions.
>>135090853
>Dakka
I forgot about /tg/ being in Spring. That was a damn shame, the hat really screwed them up there.
>>135090664
>In b4 /out/, they're unlikely to ever see a Babby again.
at one point this could have been said for /hr/, but look where they are now
>>135092508
The difference is, Flagon relegated himself by changing to a 3-4-3 with nonmedal wingmids and no defense in sight, while Jack probably won't change tactics for a while if ever again.
LGTSS:
>yotsuba demoted
>>135092849
not changing tactics can oftentimes be just as dangerous
see: /trv/
>>135092849
What do you really have to change in a team who steamrolled its way to a 3rd place in an elite cup?
>differences between PES's
hearty keks
>>135093130
developing a Plan B could maybe get /out/ even further
So since it was mentioned last thread I figured I might as well make a new Goalhorn/Anthem video since no one else will. I'm missing the following tracks since their links on the wiki are broken/taken down/404'd
>/c/
Ready!! & Fuwa Fuwa Time
>/ic/
All of their anthems/goalhorns
>/n/
Hime Hime
>/u/
Yuru Yuri Dajiken
Also I'm not adding stuff like hattricks/alternate anthems/victory anthems since this thing is going to be long enough as it is. between 60 teams
>>135093226
yeah, that's why 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 are the very best tactics on PES 16 just like they were on 15. And 3-6-1 is viable, after all it won a cup.
what's that? they aren't? PES isn't the same thing every time?
>>135093130
Not changing tactics means other managers (read: the ones who actually test) could develop counter-tactics
>>135093258
>there's no Plan B
That was some really good keks we got there.
>>135093443
Oh, my bad, you thought I wasn't laughing at people who think that you can run the same thing for a while and do well like /out/ or /hr/.
>>135093258
>Max "No plan B except for blaming PES" Pisston
>>135093382
Just look them up on the web? It should serve the same purpose, most of those links were Youtube anyways.
>>135093595
And then someone posted multiple viable plan Bs.
>the smoking ruins of what was formerly known as /a/
>>135093382
Fuwa Fuwa Time: https://soundcloud.com/sabersubs/fuwa-fuwa-time-sabertrackfor some reason i had to remove the "https:" to get it to redirect correctly. Ready!! seems to be working just fine
>>135092969
She was voted to be demoted and doesn't get much love on /c/ anymore. She is worthy of medal status on another team and we believe it would be in the best interest of the 4CC as a whole if she went to that team. A trade to /a/ is currently pending and will be voted on in their roster poll
>>135093883
>use 4-5-1, a formation known for its versatility
>have bench strikers
>"there was no Plan B"
holy kek /a/
>>135093994
>not found
Also
>she was voted to be demoted
Sack everyone.
>>135093382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpGUsoRkjo#t=59s
>>135084590
yeah
they dislike anime instead of games
>>135086215
damn i missed it
which translation were you using? gotta download the rest i guess
>>135094225
4-3-2-1 is not very versatile
t. a manager who used 4-3-2-1
>>135094225
77 strikers suck dick and that 4-5-1 was only good at attacking short up the middle (take your b-b-but muh real football arguments somewhere else).
The only game /a/ won was a 4-4-2 diamond with Bebop out of position.
>>135093382
Anthem - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLO7tCdBVrA
Goalhorn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1zKawntDXI#t=39s
KO's horn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgQuyy-0Yks
>including james ensor
lol
>>135088218
The probablity to make QFs 4 times in a row - provided it's completely random - is less than 0,4%.
>>135094605
>77 strikers suck dick
Tell that to /fit/ who used them several times.
>>135094605
im pretty sure a 77 striker has been an integral part of all of /gd/'s meme matches
>>135093994
>>135094332
>>135094760
Ok that's good. Ready started working for me after I removed the https, and I got the Yuru Yuri OP off of Soundcloud.
Now to sit down and try to fit 900mb worth of songs into some youtube videos
>>135093382
Yuru Yuri Daijiken
https://mega.nz/#!M501zBZL!ddldGRy77JfCWF9zgHi1c5oXS_89HBrplp9dMvA6EZU
Fuwa Fuwa Time
https://mega.nz/#!xocXTQLa!puERvMKkGXPR2qVYyVaL1F7CCKSRBoAXN_vT5AMHQ3A
>>135095195
That's aSEVENTY
>>135094934
>>135095195
They use them as a third striker. Two medal forwards are essential.
>>135092849
It's not just that though. The other issue is live managing. In any cup I either made tactical changes that were either ineffective or were too little too late, or none at all. It goes to say that I am not good at this overall. /hr/ didn't much better last autumn and that was without that 3-4-3, and /hr/ wasn't very impressive in the 2015 winter cup with a 4-3-1-2.
>>135095420
That's not what you said.
>>135094860
That's the probability of one specific team doing it.
The probability of any team doing it is higher.
>>135093382
I don't know who, but someone should use this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9jnw0-ndAY
>>135095525
They still suck dick, but it makes them more likely to pass than shoot.
who is the biggest weeb in all of the 4cc?
>>135096040
No, you're just damage controlling because you're shit.
>>135094605Here's additional shitposting materialI only tested that 4-4-2 with the sliders I used in the matchday once. Won 3-0. Every other set of tactics got at least 10 tests.It's horrifically ironic isn't it. Maybe I should really take another moment to further reflect on my numerous failures.
>>135096127
Mee.
>>135086098
ZyzzStream was right, teams should be awarded more medals based on how fast their respective boards are.
I, for one, welcome our new Wooden Spoon overlords.
if you dont want your small board to get kicked out you should just manage it i mean??? its not hard.
>>135096648
Oh please, like you'd know anything about managing small boards!We're having this debate literally because you made too many shitty teams for boards nobody gave a fuck about, you literal faggot.
>>135096645
Lovely cow.
Just ban /a/ and /sp/ from the cup to make some room.
>>135096974
>muh serious e-sport
>>135096851
If you unironically believe that those teams wouldn't have been made anyway then you're wrong.
>>135097226
I can't say for sure but this wasn't really a problem before DFstarted doing it. And then everybody followed suit, including le hilarious teams such as 'look look, the first letter of every player on this team is banter directed at DF!!! xD' /wg/. Nobody ever wanted these teams.. Not even the natives of the boards themselves.
Nobody gave a fuck about small teams doing well until /wg/ and height abuse, then, then people again didn't really care until 1.12 and the rise of /hr/. They used to be the haha colourful underdogs like /adv/ or /cm/. The fact of the matter is people are just butthurt because big boards can't command success consistently like they used to.
>>135097226
>if we had stopped shitty teams from being made
>they still would have been made
You're retarded, m8.
>>135097539
>'look look, the first letter of every player on this team is banter directed at DF!!! xD' /wg/
Wait what?
>>135097684
See >>135097547
There was no problem. Nobody complained because nobody had a reason to because it wasn't a problem.
To compare, it's like how the internet era has changed wrestling. /u/ is your Roman Reigns. He's just as bad as the Hulk Hogan that is /trv/, but you fuckers lapped it up back in the day.
>>135097547
Lack of imagination. People didn't know the Cup will get dominated by the likes of /s/ or /out/. Before that the logic behind letting small teams compete was 'what's the harm, they won't amount to anything anyway'.
>>135097776
The original /wg/ was a joke team and the first letters from each player spelled out something along the lines of 'fuck Dragonfag'. That's half the reason it was made. The other was Tom needing a team he could merc.
>>135097547
>Nobody gave a fuck
That IS the problem.
>>135097906i unironically enjoy both roman reigns and /u/
>>135097547
Since when has anyone ever liked /hr/ lmao
The only small teams that have ever been liked are /wg/ and /out/ because they are fun
waah waah mommy why am i bad and why am i not the problem?
big market fans everyone
>>135097970
Actually tom made the team for banter and then immediately changed it to be a real roster for actual friendlies. Plus, he did actually go to /wg/, he's not really a merc, it's just that Tom doesn't give a single fuck about the cup itself or really anything outside of /wg/. Like, who would have told him that Goldblum is a /wg/ meme in their first every cup friendlies 2 weeks after the team was made. It's not like they had a roster building thread.
People like to rewrite history a lot. That's not to say /wg/ isn't rather annoying.
REAL
HUMAN
BEING!!!
>>135098198
>waah waah mommy why does no one care about my team no matter how much they win?
Small market mercs everyone.
Germanbro made a podcast senpai
https://soundcloud.com/user-681574659
No honking.
>>135098514
boy....
https://soundcloud.com/user-681574659
GB podcast
HONKHONK
>>135098439
One can argue that having no fans is better than having a bunch of delusional whiny bitches as fans
It's literally the reason why tactically competent /sp/artans fucked off to manage other boards they go to and have actually seen success there (/fit/ and /gd/)
>>135098910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrsKPK90DGE
>>135098601
>>135098810
>>135099002
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/f/image/1456/09/1456098306838.swf
>>135098998
>One can argue that having no fans is better
>>>/icup/
>>135098810
what's the original version of that pic?
>>135098998
Did JB really manage /sp/ at some point? If so, why was he sacked?
>>135099732
No.
>>135099732
No see it's just an anon who thinks that if you go to /sp/ and don't manage /sp/ and went to another board it's not because you like the other board a lot, maybe more than /sp/, it's because you're afraid of the fans.
>>135099808
>afraid of the fans
After the whole Bochum debacle if I was Retort or JB I wouldn't want to manage /sp/ either.
>>135100049
Get results or fuck off. Like any other job. Why settle for mediocrity?
>>135100049
What do they have to fear? They're actually good. Even /sp/ wouldn't sack them.
>>135099808
It's no different from when /sp/ wanted Tom and Mauled and they both said no
>>135100132
>make one misstep
>get sackedCan't say that they didn't make the right decision in sacking, say, Art.
>>135100049
Art and Bochum have been the only forcibly removed managers. They may ask for your neck but unless you're a fucking miserable failure who flops in babbies like those two, they'll at least let you stay on unless you resign out of shame.
>>135100171
>/fit/ got relegated several times
SACKED
>/u/ couldn't get past QF four times in a row
SACKED
>>135100339
>Loli loses in the RO16
>not sacked
>Edgar gets relegated
>not sacked
>Bochum fails to get out of the babby
>not sacked until 2 cups later
>>135100491
>>Bochum fails to get out of the babby
This is the key
He stayed wayyyy past his welcome.
>>135100491
Edgar was passively sacked by the decision
Bochum was supposed to be out like 3 cups ago lmao
>>135100491
And where are they now? Not managing /sp/, that's for sure.
>>135100558
>>135100630
He wouldn't have been allowed to stay if /sp/ sacked managers that easily now, would they.
>>135100558
>>135100727
They did sack him, but no one showed up to replace him so he stayed on by default.
>>135100794
>/sp/
>>135100794
>what is Aitor "If I can't have /sp/ all to myself because you won't sack Bochum I'll go to /sci/ instead after the draw just to spite him and... oh he advanced and I didn't" Karanka
>>135101038
Sad thing is /sci/ would easily have advanced without Aitor's shit livemanagement against /cgl/and also been relegated just as easily
>>135101214
That entire group could have flipped upside down if not for >PES games or bad live management.
>>135101038
I remember there being two factions:
one that wanted to run another decision
and another that wanted to install aitor and edgar as co-managers and demote bochum to tester.
>>135101214
The funniest thing is, /sci/ had a decent setup but continuously shot themselves on the foot by running Few in attack in most of their games, and I think that included their match against /sp/, who were completely dominated. Had /sci/ been more aggressive - which they should've been but their managers are either retarded or liked /sp/ too much - they would've won.
https://youtu.be/zEHdnpTNqLc
https://youtu.be/XUxpm0oL2gg
https://youtu.be/DMzT3Dx0YyM
im gay
>>135105384
thanks me too
>page 9
>>135106554
Superior Momoka.
I did a fetus test draw, 3 groups of 3 and 1 group of 4
Group A: /po/ /toy/ /vg/
Group B: /i/ /trv/ /v/
Group C: /t/ /biz/ /gif/
Group D: /adv/ /co/ /hr/ /y/
>two groups of death
>/biz/ and /hr/ win lol
>>135107172
>MUH ANGELISE-SAMA~
"no"
>>135081586
>>135082421
Here's my copy of all the deadline exports: https://mega.nz/#!YV0yCTgB!h0hPysizSoKw0KTWfAlMlIMvxORsn7AfZwvz0v1Ppsw
>>135107594
Let's make a few assumptions about the Fetus:
- 16TeamsLol
- Spring starts May 2nd (From Sou's last comments and 4ccspan)
- The entire Fetus can be done over a Friday-Sunday, either by Paval or multiple streamers (Ved?)
What would be the best weekend to do it?
