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>EO Guides, References, Music, Artbooks, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://mega.nz/#!SghiWI6J!SyUwZs2X9oLHP-rfmVvF_j0QjeI1lA2HSrU4C6qs0eY (Nico stream)

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Necromancer a shit.
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bump until everyone wakes up and moves to the new thread
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I hope EOV does more with treasure chests. I liked the Mimics in EOU2, but that was only in one area.

I always wondered why there was that little confirmation message asking you if you want to open this chest you found, since there's never something dangerous inside. Could be a some trapped treasure chests in an ancient temple, random Mimics that appear on different floors, or insects that make their nest in old treasure chests.

Honestly, I could do with more dungeon events in general. Random events, for example, would be nice. It'd make the troll events stand out more, too. You see an extremely kickable-looking rock on the ground. Kick the rock?
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>>134833075

>Trapped treasure chests

As long as there's not like 22 trap possibilities like Class of Heroes, id be down.
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>>134812726
Might as well say Abigail isn't the shop keeper.

>>134816068
>KLK invented red highlights
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>>134828775
This person is why the series has gone downhill
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>>134834719
But it's getting better with every installation, excluding Untolds (and even then, U2 is a lot better than U)
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does anyone have a link to the EO character sorter?
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>>134835348
I always wondered what that thing is the Zodiac is holding.

Some kind of astrology stick?
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>>134835348
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30485706/eosort.html
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>>134836065

I always assumed it's the visible energy focused through the ring on their hand from their chosen star.
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i love the new braided teach. is there any new screenshot of eov?
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>playing 10 hours of EO3
>decide to play it chronological instead
>get wiped out by venom butterflies
Wow, EO3 seems tame compared to the 1st one and I haven't seen FOEs yet
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Blizzard King used Mirror Shield.
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>>134841390
No fuck you!
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>>134828307
>removing EOU2 info
Fuck off dude
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>>134841390

>implying it mattered in EO3

Not even AG can fend against a HP Cannon. What makes him think his puny shield can?
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>>134828307
Nice OP image.
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Finally managed to finish Story mode in Untold, this kind of EO isn't really for me.
The last boss is also a complete joke.
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>>134843197

>not liking "Justice for everybody"
>not liking Justice by massacre

Really now.

Fuck Untold. Fuck Grimoire
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>>134843197
>this kind of EO isn't really for me
That's kind of what I felt just playing the demo, and playing Persona Q. It's fucking frustrating to have your labyrinth progress halted for a stretch of vapid dialogue.
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>>134812549
>the Voice Acting is better

I don't know. As much as Raquna was my favourite character, she went from no accent to Bob and Doug MacKenzie on a whim.
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>>134845884

U2 has good voice acting but lacks Kupala.

But honestly both games have pretty decent voice acting. The only thing that really bugged me was that Simon tends to say 'It got behind us!' when you try but fail to run from an enemy, even when fighting the tree FOEs in the desert.

Honestly how can those things even prevent you from running away. hahaha nigga just walk away from the FOE close your eyes haha
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>>134846410
EO2U has a good selection of bad voices though.
Partially stemming from the cast (both party and NPCs) not being as bland as EOU's.
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If the NX doesn't have dual screens, what will become of Etrian Odyssey?
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>>134847525
I meant to type map, I swear.
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>>134847447

Remove all RPG elements and make it an adventure game where battles are pointless and the game calls you stupid if you insist on fighting bosses without an "I win" button.
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>>134847664
Why would it turn into Sticker Star?
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>>134847717

Because cynical doomsday scenarios is all I have.
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>>134828307
>no eo5 pic
>removing relevant info for europeans from the op

shit thread
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Is there a reason for me to buy the Treasures Untold DLC for EO2U if I already have EOU?
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>>134848189
will fix it the next thread
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>>134848192

>zoom in
>cannot zoom into her face

Woah, talk about a shitty remake.
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>>134848192
No. Treasures Untold is the worst DLC.
The rush boss battle is a nice challenge, but the rewards are awful.
No king grimoires, no enemy drops, no equipment reward.
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>>134848192
>yfw Alraune no imouto in EOV
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>>134848739

>still no info on her

More monmusu is never bad.
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If they offer that artbook edition of EOV in the states I'm buying it
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>>134848925
More elegant than her exhibitionist sister.
And comes with a crown!

But more monmusu IS bad because you always have to kill them
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>>134849057
Maybe like a 5 page artbook. There is no way we're getting the full thing, seeing that we didn't get EOU2's one.
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>>134847525
>>134847608
>bring up menu to get to map

Please no, I can't go back to those dark days, I love SMT1 but jesus christ
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>>134848925
>More monmusu is never bad.
Fuck you and fuck Arachne.
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>>134849406
damn

bad enough shaman class isn't some bodacious babe

at least the other character models look cool
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>>134849442

>untold is canon

Fuck Untold. Fuck Grimoire
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>>134847717
>Etrian Odyssey: Sticker Star
>You have to collect and place stickers on your map to proceed
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>>134848925
>More monmusu is never bad.
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>>134849406
I hope we at least get scans as good as those.
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>>134848925
Just look at those levels of smug, you can hear her going ohoho from that image alone.
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>>134851717
>ex-gf bought me The Dark Spire for the DS years and years ago
>still never opened the package
Am I missing anything?
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>>134851921
It's p good, bruh.
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>>134852017
I wanted shamans to dress like the medium.
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>>134852442
I don't care what anyone says, I love the shamans for finally fulfilling the prophecy of a class wearing deer antlers that started with the scrapped War Magus concepts
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>>134851921
It's probably my favorite first-person dungeon crawler NOT developed by Atlus, if that counts for anything.
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>>134852756
I already got my fill of branched loli.

Not like I dislike shaman, but given the size layered colorful clothes would be cuter than what we got.
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My favorite classes are nightseeker, war magus, and princess
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>>134855330
Princess classes are always nice. The one in 7th Dragon is really fun to play with a Rogue or Knight in your party.
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>>134855486
Rogue & Princess reacts were the best thing ever.
I still think 7th D has better party building and class synergy than any of the EOs.
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>>134856016
7th Dragon is pretty fun, though taking damage from the Bloom can be kinda fucking annoying, and having to buy so many fucking healing fruits if you decide to make a party without a cleric can be annoying. I still need to finish the game at some point.

I'm looking forward to VFD whenever it gets released in English.
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>>134856618
I didn't find that much issue in bloom damage, it's just a matter of stopping every so often to heal up before you get a new random encounter. What annoys me more is how every dragon battle feels like doing the same thing over and over again against HP sponges, and it gets pretty boring at some point.
Those delicious animal ears, mota art and Samurai bodysuit though.
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>>134858148
I wish they had kept Mota on character design for the games after the first one.

I want to FUCK Samurai's bodysuit butt.
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I always wondered: Is Yuzo Koshiro allowed to remix music from EO just for fun? Or would that somehow get him fired?
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>>134856618
Do you (or anyone else) have any idea if the ones for PSP are any good? I tend to avoid spinoffs, but those would be the easiest for me to acquire.
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>>134862581
I haven't played them, but apparently they removed a lot of the "fluff" and reduced the party size to three. Take that how you will.
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>>134861146
Tongue Night Seeker it better.
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>>134862938
Tongue NS is shit.
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>>134862938
>>134863695
You have both a warped sense of taste. Pink NS is better but both are fucking great. Every man of taste picks both in his first playthrough and adjusts his party for it.
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>>134864393
>using two Night Seekers
>using two of the same class in one party
I'll never understand this.
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>>134865268
Not having four Nightseekers and one Fluffmaster for them to be a bad influence on
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>>134790967
>Too bad there wasn't a squirrel event in the fifth stratum.
But anon, it's on the right side of 22F
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>>134865268
Where's the fun in party building if you don't play around with the classes? Also you can specialize the characters differently which makes them relatively unique.
And I just had to use both
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Wait, so 7th Dragon 1 is set in Eden, yet in 7th Dragon Eden is the future setting. Yet 7th dragon 1 classes are most medival. I haven't played any of the games, is the plottwist the same as in EO?
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>>134865268
Multiple NSs pile on the damage like nobody's business. A lot of IV classes actually do really well in multiples.
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>>134866928
Yes, same as EO.
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>>134866928
M e d i e v a l
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>>134868737
MediEvil
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>>134846410
I think a lot of the extras and NPCs in Untold 2 kinda blew. But Arianna aside, at least all of the main party is cast and directed well, even if Chloe slipped out of her voice every so often and Flavio had a handful of weird takes. They also should've swapped Bert's Boost and Break lines, though

>HERE'S EVERYTHING I HAVE!!
>I'll show my true strength...
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>>134868581
The Japanese have huge boners for that sort of plot, so they?
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>>134849406
Japan didn't offer the art book as a pre-order bonus. What America got was a sampler book, on top of the CD that Japan was already giving away. We do need some company like Udon to localize the Etrian art books, though. I mean, they released the book for a game that was never localized, so they must not need huge margins.
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>>134872176
Yes
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>>134872347
Wait, so all four previous artbooks were sold separately?
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>>134872176
I do as well.
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>"Salamander's conditional drop: defeat while panicked"
>obtain dick all
>search once more
"Salamander's conditional drop: defeat while feared"
>obtain dick all after forty turns of trying to inflict fear on it
Does fucking anyone know what they're talking about, and which status is it? Using a formaldehyde is my last resort, but fuck me if I go through with inflicting fear all over again.
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>>134874423
If you are using the gamefaqs guide, read the comments.
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>>134874508
I did, after inflicting panic failed to do anything. As noted, inflicting fear hasn't done much more.
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>>134874423
It's defeat while feared.
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>>134872959
They're big art books. Did you think they were just going to give them away?
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>>134875330
10k yen isn't exactly "giving it away"
Never looked into SQ limited editions before.
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Kill me.
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>>134875714
Everything is expensive in Japan
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>>134876320
This is the new "Delete this"
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>>134876320
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>>134876320
Could be worse could be wearing a hoodie
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>>134876320
>yfw Etrian Odyssey threads are going to summon the Barneyfag
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>>134876320
Why?
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>>134876320

Boy I sure hope Atlus USA correctly names the midget race Brownie.
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>>134876320
I never asked for this.
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This is by far the best pic of Sarashi out there.
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>>134851921
Not as good as Beyond the Labyrinth but still pretty good.
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Foot fetishists are the worst.
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>>134874423
>dick all
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>>134836945
Oh yeah. EO1 doesn't fuck around.
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>>134878398
Delete this
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>>134882353

Unless you decide to cheese through with Relax + Immunize
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>>134836945
>>134882353
>play pokemon (or any other rpg)
>poison effect
>whatever
>play Etrian Odyssey
>poison effect
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>>134885987
What a blue slut
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>>134891848
Delete this
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>>134892125
No! Adult Ricky is too cute.
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>>134891848

I can't tell who this is supposed to be.
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>>134893016
Fencer
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>>134892683
How is that supposed to be her?
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>>134893016
According to the Pixiv tags, it's Ricky.
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>>134893016
Tags say Frederica.
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>>134893305
>>134893392
>Those tits
>Ricky

Fanart has gone too far.
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>>134893260
Eyes and hair maybe. I don't think there are many blondes in EO with star blue eyes and a ponytail.
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>>134893639
Ricky can grow too, you know.
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>was just given a copy of EOIV
>made a new game, playing on Normal
What should I know, coming into this game? Never played an EO game before, but have played dungeon crawlers.
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>>134893870
Fluffymasters are cute and the fluffiest.
I was going to say something about avoiding big orange balls but they're gone forever.
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>>134893661
Not even Ricky is one.
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>>134893870
>>134894035
Remember to use the best Runemaster.
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>>134893870
We've got a great starter pastebin up in the OP.

IV will let you get away with any and all party compositions, though the skill point allotment matters a fair bit. We're always pretty willing to give build advice if you post them here.
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>>134893870
You should go out of your way to break the game.
That is have a team consisting of two Night Seekers, an Imperial, a Comfymaster and an Arcanist
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>>134894238
>Sleepymaster
>Fluffymaster
Why must life be so cruel and full of choices?
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>>134894384
FUCK CHOICES, USE BOTH
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>>134894131
But she is.

I might have used the wrong word though; I don't know how do you call that style of hair.
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>>134894528
Pony tail is one, like your Racoon there.
Two is twintails or pigtails.
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>>134894363
>>134894251
I'm going to assume 'comfymaster' is the runemaster. My party consists of:
L/F/D
R/M
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>>134894528
I forgot that specific image existed at all.
It's a bit creepy.
Sidetail
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>>134894701
Generic but highly serviceable. I suggest eventually using the Dancer to chase the Linkshark's attacks.
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>>134894453
This. Stack tier 1 runes for more time with the power up, and annihilate your enemies with a double serving of Blizzards, Inferonos, and Galvanic Runes.

When Sleepy and Fluffy work together, nothing can stop them.
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>>134893870
Your top priority should be picking the cutest portraits. This applies to all of the games.
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>>134893870
There are no wrong choices when it comes to making your party. Just easier and harder ones. Best to go for a versatile party if you're starting out, but there's nothing wrong with having two of a single class in your party. You can recruit even more members who stay benched, after all.
If you want to redistribute skill points, you can do so at the Explorer's Guild, for the low cost of two levels for the member you're re-speccing. Remember that if you want to try another approach for s new dungeon or boss you're struggling with, you can do just that.
Keep your health high in dungeons, just to avoid being taken down too easily if you get ambushed.

Don't touch the statues.
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Would any of you guys read an Etrian Odyssey story that's around novella length? I've had five main characters and a basic story for the first stratum for a week or so now and I was going to start writing it. I'm just curious if anyone would actually be interested in reading it.
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>>134896882
Depends if the writing is good or not.
I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea on principle.
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>>134896882
I could read it while I'm busy not paying attention in classes.
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>>134896882
I'd read it, just don't make it too cringe-worthy.
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>>134896882

I'll read it.
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>>134897098
I'd like to think I have pretty good writing skills. It's one of my hobbies, so I practice a lot.

>>134897148
That's more than enough reading in my books. No pun intended.

>>134897260
In what way?
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>>134896882
These things are funnier to write than to read.
So do it anyways.
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>>134896882
if it comes with illustrations of brown women getting pounded with various objects and random campfire sex time then sure.
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>>134897260

I find anything written about video games to be cringe. Especially the doujins
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>>134899761
>doujins
>cringe
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I'm starting to wonder if I put together a bad guild in EOIV. I feel like I'm always scraping through my the skin of my teeth. I can't even stand up to the red-furred bear yet.

My team is
F/M/N
S/R
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>>134901349
Maybe I'd put the medic on he back row, unless you're really using them for offence.
Otherwise, don't worry about it. I'm surprised you can fight them competently already after just starting up the game. FOEs are not to be taken as lightly as normal enemies.

Remember, you can recruit additional members in other classes to try out if you're not comfortable with your current guild.
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>refuse to shower for a week
>spray gold bond to my swamplike anus and genitals
>feel like im going to die for like a minute
>followed up by 30 minutes of minty freshness
I FEEL FUCKING ALIVE TIME FOR SOME ETRIAN ODYSSEY UNTOLD STORY MODE REPLAY
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>>134902313
The Medic is really just for support. I never thought about three at the back and two at the front. I should give that a try.

Also, I haven't taken on any of the FOEs yet. I've tried, but get instantly trounced. I'm only level 12. I also don't know what other classes have good synergy with what I've already got, to I don't want to exclude some of my party and have them lag behind in levels for something that may ultimately not work.
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>>134902583
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>>134902583
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>>134902865
>>134902882
I missed Raquna.

Is that so wrong?
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>>134902583
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>>134902583
Back guard your hygiene problems!
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>>134902583
Nigga thats nasty
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>>134902583
probably a yuropfag
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Who do you think will voice Misty in EOU3?
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>>134904231
The person who voice Camilla
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>>134904231

Quinton Flynn.
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>>134904329
No, please.
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>>134904231
Me.
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>>134904231
Quona.
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Do not open. Under no circumstances, do not open it!
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>>134905476
You're late>>134876320
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>>134905476
Did you see >>134876320 ?
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>>134905476
Careful, mate. I got warned for posting that.
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>>134905914
Some faggot actually reported you? What a tosser.
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>>134906080
To be fair, it was against the rules.
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>>134906229
Which is hilarious in its own right.
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>>134902784
Huh, I was sure the red bears were FOEs. Oh well.
In any case, synergy in EO4 is really only case of how well a class can buff each other and augment damage.
A Runemaster will work well with a Landy, a Sniper will work well with a Nightseeker, and so on.

My first EO4 party was an offensive Dancer and versatile Fortress on the front, with a Sniper, Runemaster and Medic on the back. Not the best for synergy, but I did pretty damn well with it once I got into the swing of things.
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>>134905476
>They ruin the cute one
Degenerates.
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>>134905476
If you forget everything cancerous about the fan base, the picture's actually kind of cute.
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>>134905914
It is really against the rules?
And this >>134906080

What a fucking loser.
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>>134907653
Global rule 15.
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>Enter labyrinth
>Meet an Angry Baboon
>Die
>Rinse and repeat
Damn this 2 character run is slow going.
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>really want the octoshot
>level 35
>casual as fuck
>only play turf war
welp.. what are my options?
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>>134911253
You can't even hit the right thread, much less hitting other inklings.
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>>134911253
by posting in the right general.
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>>134911253
>what are my options?
No idea.
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>>134911253
I seem to be in the wrong tab
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>>134911253
Just get bind resist, bro. You'll beat Scylla easily with that.
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>>134911253
Spec into Elemental Rounds, not Blind focus with the octoshot
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>>134911253
Wrong general Squiddo
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>>134896882
Fuck yes I'd read that shit. I was just mentioning a couple threads back how I wish there were good EO fanfics. Don't Forget the Ariadne Thread was the only passable one I found, so I began writing my own.
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>>134911253
play more
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>>134912572
Never heard of that one. I'll have to check it out.

Is yours in an already existing town, or a whole new region?
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>>134851717
source on image?
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>>134913234
I'm basing it off of my run of IV. I just started, but I've got an annoying landshark, a maternal fortress, a comfymaster, a bro sniper and my self insert as the medic.
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>>134914668
Oh, nice. My characters are based off of my IV run, but I'm putting it in an original region. What are their names?
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>>134914909
Lisa's the landshark, Anna's the fortress, Fiora's the comfymaster, Max is the sniper and then I just used my name for the self insert. In hindsight I probably should have changed the name, but I wanted to keep it as close to my IV as possible, keeping in line with the tone of EO.
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>>134912572
>>134913234
>>134914668
>>134914909
>>134915359
>>>/shittywriting/
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>>134915594
>>>/j/
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>>134915594
Don't get me wrong, I fully understand my writing is shitty. I'm using fanfiction as a platform to improve though before I try and tackle the novel I have planned. I'm by no means going to try and shill it here, but surely discussion between writers is acceptable?
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>>134915359
Does the comfymaster become a robot?
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>>134916086
Well there isn't much else going on here until we get more info about 5.
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>>134916757
Interesting idea. I don't exactly know where I'm going with it yet as I'm letting the run shape the story, but I'll be sure to keep that idea in mind.
>>134916984
True. That's part of why I began writing, just to kill time.
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>>134916086
>Don't get me wrong, I fully understand my writing is shitty. I'm using fanfiction as a platform to improve though before I try and tackle the novel I have planned.
Wrong anon.
First learn to describe objects and rooms. This will lead you to get a better vocabulary.
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>>134917291
I already describe quite a bit. My biggest problem is mostly that my writing is clunky. Transitioning from descriptions to dialogue to actions to thoughts feels unnatural, so I'm hoping to find the errors in my writing as I analyze what I wrote.
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I want to make a first-person dungeon crawler.
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>>134918256
Then why don't you visit the game dev thread?
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>>134918736
I'm a shit.
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>>134918949
Well the first step to improving is realizing just how bad you are.
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>>134918736
>Then why don't you visit the game dev thread?
I'm just the Idea Guy. I suck at everything that require talent.
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>>134918256
I've had an idea for a First Person Dungeon Crawler. Setting was WWII and you explore Hitlers Underground base. It would have Melee and Ranged units of course.
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>>134918256
Just like make game.
Too bad EO stole my palette change idea before I made my game.
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>>134921623
Good End
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>>134921456
>>134921623
Epic
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>>134904231
No one because it's not happening.
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>>134918256
I want to compose and implement music and sound design for a first-person dungeon crawler
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>>134918256
>>134923661
I want to suckle on a feminine penis
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>>134923779
I want guroanteed replies
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>>134923779
>believing the "feminine penis" joke
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>>134896882
Try it

even if you don't think your writing style isn't good, or if someone tells you it isn't good, it's still solid writing practice and fun to share with peers.
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>>134925750
Yeah, that's true. I'll probably post the rough draft of the first chapter tomorrow. It's basically just going to be meeting the characters, showing how they all wound up in the same guild, and why they travelled to the town the plot stems from.
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>>134902583
>storyfags
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>>134927096
More like Frenchfags
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>>134923661
The rad music in the EO games makes me want to learn guitar.

There's a cheap guitar my sister left her when she moved out, but no amp.
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>>134928878
>guitar
>amp

Get a real guitar instead of an electric shit
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>>134923779
Never ever.
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>>134930084
>>134928878
Fuck that, learn MIDI synths.
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>>134931798
Not him but I've always wanted to learn Midi Synths, but it never made sense to me.
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>>134934370
Sleep tight, Furyhorner.
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EO3's the best.
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>>134918256
I cannot make shit, but ever since the first EO showed what you can do with a low budget and good ideas I've been hoping anons/indies would pick up the mantle. There were even some good ideas floating on /eog/ now and then, but nowt more...
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Has the last game gone on sale already? just asking really.
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Why EOU1 didn't get sprite update? This make me furious.
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>>134942497
The Untolds really showed that Himukai's improved a ton as an artist in just a few years.
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>>134946782
In my playthrough she clipped a strawberry.
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>>134946782
She doesn't look very happy.
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This thread's on life support. We should merge with /eog/ – bring them lolis, at the very least.
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>>134952039
First time I actually checked that place out.
It's horrible.
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wake u
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I wanna play EO again but can't decide between III and IV. I prefer III's classes but IV has a fucking airship.
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https://youtu.be/p7PTX3gmHcU
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>>134956327
what the fuck
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>>134932719
You don't have to learn anything. Just download FL Studio and make a MIDI with it. Alternatively, you can download Yamaha XG50 to have better quality than GM (Windows default MIDI synth) and use it as a VST plugin.
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>playing EOIV
>guy says he has a key to a chest that supposedly has armour made by a legendary blacksmith named Conrad
>get it for him
>it's all old and beat up, so he says it's not Conrad's work
>gives me the reward anyway and says "looks like I'll be in the red again this month"
>Wynne fixes it up and says it actually is Conrad's armour
>she gives me the cleaned up armour, but the armour my Fortress has on is better
>go back to The Dancing Peacock to give the armour back to the guy, but he's gone

I feel so bad for him. I didn't want to hurt him.
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Just a reminder
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>>134959621

I'm counting on you, kiddos.
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>>134956458
What's wrong?
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>>134959621
Reminder of what?
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>>134960514
kiddo
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>>134960514
Best Bartender
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>>134833075
The Mimics were so fucking great, I wish there was more of that in the game.

>Honestly, I could do with more dungeon events in general.

I believe this is a big part of what they've said they want to add in EOV.
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>>134918256
I have some really good first-person dungeon crawler concepts but I'm not sure what the best first step is towards making one is. I remember the guy making the SMT fangame had a lot of trouble putting a working dungeon-crawler system together.
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