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Previous >>128689283

>This Month (January) Events Schedule
http://pastebin.com/Jd7n35AB

>Please, READ THE FAQ - it will answer most of your questions if you are new or learning
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DQh3qpWhNOJmt4vttaV-J4nSwpceFgUup67fRzVwqJE/edit

>Mega Pastebin
https://pastelink.net/granblue

>Game Download
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.mbga.a12016007.lite
iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/guranburufantaji/id852882903
Chrome App:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/グランブルーファンタジーchromeapps版/eablgejicbklomgaiclcolfilbkckngf?hl=ja
Mobile/Browser:
http://www.mbga.jp/_game_intro?game_id=12016007

>Japanese Wiki
http://gbf-wiki.com/
>English Wiki [under construction]
https://granblue-wiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
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I'm a Virasexual.
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xth for granblue boys
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CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

With your silky smooth flaxen hair,
And your soft skin, so pale and fair,
And with that naughty look in your eye,
Why, I just feel like I could fall down and die!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

Your clothes are soft and yet so hot,
One glance at you, it hits the spot,
All of creation's greatest alchemist are you,
All the inferior specimens of today you can outdo!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

Even without the power of the Philospher's Stone,
You can effortlessly turn hordes of enemies to bone,
You are truly the cutest in the world,
Anyone that dares disagree shall find their body unfurled!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

To finally meet you in a foreign land,
With shaking legs, I barely stand,
With this gold ring I get on one knee,
Oh Cagliostro I now ask, will you marry me?

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!
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Any reroll anon giving away accounts with SSRs?
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>>128773665
>>128773743
>>128773839
The rules of this board need to change so we can have proper discussions.
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How do I get Vira to love me?
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>>128773857
Got an Athena, but I doubt you'd want that as a starting roll.
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>can wreck Very Hard with ease
>Extreme completely buttrapes me

What the hell, the difficulty spike is insane. Even the trash mobs are raping me.
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>>128773857
Post email.
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>>128774290
[email protected]
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>>128773926
What would you change?
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I asked in the previous thread but nobody replied, so I'll ask again: should I MLB Anira or Therese?
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>>128774290
What do you have in offer?
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>>128774642
Anira.
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>>128774642
Both
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>>128774379
Stop being greedy.
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>>128775392
CALLED
OUT
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>>128775392
Can I have it in his place please? [email protected]
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I'm done mashing that big red button
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>>128775649
What game is this?
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>>128775649
can you do it in one sitting or will you run out of ap?
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>>128775392
Someone people are begging accounts and holding them until English language release so they can sell them, do be careful Giveaway anon-kun.
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>>128775392
What SSR you offering?
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>>128775726
If you use your BP, you don't even need to take a break.
Maybe a 5 minute one if your luck is bad and you don't get rare encounters that drop you 100 EXP
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>>128775392
Nice catch
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>>128775757
people would buy accounts? for what $2? even anchira is 500 yen
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>>128775629
I goofed up
[email protected]
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How fairly mandatory are GW and Bahamut weapons? Can I just focus on Magna weapons without being completely left out endgame-wise? (I don't care about hoarding S-tier SSR characters nor getting MVP). I just want to have fun without being too much of a bother to other players.
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>>128775392
S-sorry, but when you were giving away account I though Magisa was the cute fire alchemist not some sexy milf.
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>>128775876
You underestimate how dumb English players are.
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>>128775876
English players are dumb. In Fate/GO for example there are sites like appsaviors selling reroll accounts for 10~20x its value and it works. Meanwhile you can just buy them from JP Yahoo auctions for 500~800 yen
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>>128775918
>How fairly mandatory
Well it's optimal to have them and if you're going to forego S tier characters every other advantage you can get will help you stay relevant end-game
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>>128775918
GW weapons aren't mandatory unless you want the character. Bahamut weapons are, it will take a long long time for someone to get a good replacement for them(or whaling)
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>>128776048
>>128776094
>that hivemind
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The Idol cardgame just bugs the fuck out of itself.
The Live scenes just stop responding halfway through and for the first 5 levels, it didn't even drain me AP out of whatever that was that you were talking with other idols while getting free dresses out of the street
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>>128775918
GW weapons are required if you want the character and can really help you get a good weapon for your on-hand (Especially Superstar) for any element.

Otherwise they aren't really necessary
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>>128776319
>>128776229
>>128776130
Alright cheers, gonna skip GW for now and focus on Bahamut weapons when I see fit. I'm the type of guy who rather focus on good SR/event characters.

I only plan on blowing money on Surprise tickets.
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>>128775918
You don't really have to do anything extraordinary to get Bahamut weapons. You'll be flooded with the rusted weapons from angel halo shit, and once you get rank 80 and can summon a bahamut you get a free horn for making your first weapon.

And you don't really have to carry your weight or do anything special for the Proto Bahamut fight.
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>>128776580
>missing out on Sarasa
your loss
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>>128776580
Just so you know, GW chars are the strongest characters you can get without the gacha
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>>128774647
>>128775778
>>128775917
Already gave the accounts with 2 to 3 SSRs. This is all I have now.
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Couldn't find anything in the faqs, are the SR rainbow weapons that are 50 event points just for experience or what? Seems too good to be true
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>>128776972
yes. they drop like candy from magna and angel quest
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>>128776094
And then there's Granblue where you can buy a start dash ticket for 30 bucks and somehow feel superior
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>>128776952
>>128775917
I'll take Amira please.
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>>128776952
Albert pllease
[email protected]
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>>128776832
The game throws you so many gems so it isn't really an issue.
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>>128775649
what campaign game is this, i started the bahamut one and i got no clue whats going on.
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>>128777072
It comes with a 10-roll ticket as well so it's a good deal regardless.
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>>128777319
Knights. Bahamut doesn't work unless you're on bluestacks.
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>>128776952
Do you have Silva?
If not I'll take Percival [email protected]
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>>128776952
could I get Percy
Email:[email protected]
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>>128777401
>The SSR character worth 30 bucks comes with an item that can be obtained within a day by gem costs so that makes it perfectly normal!
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>>128777635
>in a day
Maybe if you're new, eventually the 10 roll handouts dry up outside of events/log-in boosts

Also with start dash you at least have the option of getting the "limited/seasonal" characters easy because you don't have to whale for them.

For surprise ticket yeah it's basically just spender haven for people who already spend a lot of time on the game
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>>128777415
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>>128775876
>>128776048
>>128776094
I'm looking forward to selling my 2 Lucifer / 3 Bahamut accounts that I've been babysitting on-and-off for months.

One Bahamut has Vampy pulled from random gacha/gem gifts as well, and they all have anywhere from 5-20 SR chars and the odd SSR.
One Lucifer has SSR Sheep and 21 single pull ticket/6000 gems remaining, I'm expecting to get at least $200-300+ USD for that one from some sucker. It's probably taken around 1-2 hours of babysitting, cumulative across the prior months.
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>>128777775
When else would someone use a start dash ticket? A year after playing the game? Of course when he's new. Listen to yourself
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>>128777635
It's the same price as a 10 roll anyway, really bad trolling desu
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>>128777635
I've seen far worse gacha systems.
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>>128777838
These people are just assholes. You should stop giving accounts away.

How come you have that many rerolls, anyway?
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>>128776952
>>128777838
Are you the guy who gave me the Yuel/Cerb account? If so thank you for your hard work. I've been enjoying the game thanks to you.
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>>128777838
As a f2p dark is too hard for me anyway.
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>>128777193
Albert Anon here, thank you very much, I can start the game with a great start now, I can finally trash my shitty main.
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>>128776952
do you still have amira? would i get fucked over hard starting as her as f2p? i dont know who else is cute on that list
[email protected]
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>>128777838
These ungrateful people.
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>thread suddenly becomes ghetto
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>>128778736
dindonuffin'
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>>128777635
>10 roll is 3000 yen
>10 roll + SSR of your choice is 3000 yen
wow you've really opened my eyes, anon. surprise tickets and start dashes really are worthless!
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What would have to happen for Yuel 5* to break the Percival/Clarice meta
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>>128778863
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>>128779129
def down is not even meta, it's quality of life.
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>>128779129
Metera already broke it with her superior damage.
If you need fear you're honestly a baddie who needs to git gud.
There's also going to be another fire SSR after the Yuel 5* so expect that to maybe be good too.
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>>128779129
That meta is dead as fuck already.
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>>128779129
Nothing. The meta will be Percy/Clarice/Yuel for people who don't have sheep. Sheepfags will continue to use her over either Yuel (for solo) or Clarice (for raids).

inb4 newfags claim Metera will ever be meta
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>>128779487
>Yuel 5* will be a sheep replacement meme
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>>128779579
>le not being able to read meme
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inb4 Yuel 5* becomes naruto
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>>128779397
>If you need fear you're honestly a baddie who needs to git gud
If you use anything above an R character you're just a baddie who needs to git gud
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Would it be a big mistake to re-shift my focus to Wind if the GW char that I most want to make is Nio? Just finished the max LB celestial spear as well.

I feel sick trying to get more drops from Celeste; and according to the study done on the drop rates, the prime elements have 3x the drop rate for SSRs compared to Celeste/Chevalier.
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>>128779762
If you want Nio make her, you're going to have to/want to make other elements eventually anyways.
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>there are people in this thread right now that abandoned their waifu for esports
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>>128779762
>Celeste and Chev point shops finally launch
>All of their SSRs are 15k points
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>>128779953
What if my waifu is esports?
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>>128779953
>implying DOKKAN isn't waifu mat
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>>128779762
I started with dark and I'm switching my main focus to fire.
It was pretty depressing to spend all day on half BP running Celeste to have the same amount of SSRs from running Colossus every now and then.
Turns out the advice to not start with dark or light isn't a meme.
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>>128780210
Just not dedicated enough. Sell your Naru and start over
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>>128779953
I would never abandon her
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>>128780210
you're also going to find out that fire is the weakest element isn't (sadly) a meme either
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>>128780210
git gud enough to solo or 50% chev/cele
red boxes have higher chances
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>>128779953
I still use her though
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>>128780371
>not earth
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>>128778106
Who are you using as your summon?
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>>128780371
>weakest element has def down 25%/anti-debuff/dispel/fear
earth def down 25% when
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>>128780530
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>>128780210
Those sounds like the words of a quitter. Are you a quitter?
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>>128780564
Who needs that when others will do it for you.
And for solo you don't need it.
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>>128780404
Yeah, 3~4 percent per red box.
>>128780428
Earth has like zero problems killing things, has good magna weapons and has all its support niches filled, the only bad parts are nonexistent baha synergy and having to grind for both GW charas if you want to be max esports. Fire only has Percy carrying it.
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>>128780619
Isn't Cerberus holding off your team?
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>>128780035
What came first, the waifu or the esports
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>>128780371
I could go water but fire has more waifus.

>>128780404
>Red boxes
>Ever dropping anything good
Is this a meme?

>>128780648
Yes
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>amira request ignored
forever no waifu
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Just starting out and got Sara, she's cute but is she good?
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Did anyone hanging around here make Nio or did you all pick Song/etc for cute + esports combo?


>>128780210
I started originally with fire but a few clicks on Celeste in my first few days of playing got me 2 axes during the 1/2 magna event, then I start dashed Narumeia. Those axes remain the only two axes I've gotten after running Celeste more times than anyone would want to keep track of (and I'm sure, a tiny fraction of the number many people have run it).

>>128780404
The info from the one study suggests red boxes from Celeste/Chevalier have about a 4% drop rate for SSRs, compared to around 12% for the prime elements. It's a number so low you're nearly dealing with the same rates as the real gacha in the game. Not that its bad to get the red boxes or anything, its certainly good.
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>>128780981
Best tank in the game.
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>>128780782
>Earth has like zero problems killing things
>implying fire has problems killing things
>wut
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>>128780981
Top tier throughout the entire game. But as a tank, so don't expect her to murder your enemies
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>>128780981
She's the best tank in the game and you can throw her onto any element if you are having survivability issues
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>>128780979
Just roll her
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>>128780979
I requested before you did m8 but got nothing too.
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>>128780793
She deals half the damage of my team but makes up for it with debuffs. Blind/Charm/Burn etc
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>>128781045
I made Sarasa because she's the cutest
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>>128781125
maybe cuz you were trying to jew him after getting an account already
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>>128781053
Fire does the least damage of all elements, everything outdamages it.
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>>128780782
>Earth has two of the best GW characters
>Fire has fucking Esser
Why is this allowed?
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>>128781229
>Sarasa
>one of best GW char
nuh-uh
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>>128780927
at least you're enjoying the game for the waifu not e-sport.
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>>128781223
Only if you don't use Metera.
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>>128781221
>call Amira his waifu
>wait for another dude to hand her over to him
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>>128781416
Jeeta a cute
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>>128781229
Sarasa hits things hard but you can't compare her to Suwabe or Paralady.
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>>128781618
fathers hand over their daughters and theyre guys
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>>128781416
>I misclicked and called out after ougi refrehing
I did that once in a guild members raid before. I felt awful.
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>>128781318
Thalatha was good back then when everyone was weak
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>>128781739
>not having all public unchecked
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>>128781623
Octo hits harder and more esport, Sarasa is waifu material though.

>>128781759
More like there wasn't any choices in Earth dps chars. And there still isn't.
>looking at naru yoda metera
>fuck eustace whyudodis
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>>128781739
>>128781416
"Called out" what does it mean?
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>>128781920
Just use Gandalf, Sarasa and Octo in the same team, see things explode.
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>>128781970
Make the raid public I assume
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>>128781970
Opening the floodgates.
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>>128781970
Use your common sense retard
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>>128781970
Posting the raid public.
You can refresh to skip ougi animation but when you do so it opens up the menu to post the raid again.
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>cygames releasing all these characters with overly complicated skills with stacking shit and specific windows like Eustace, Beatrix and Metera
>they're worse than characters that require 1/4th of the effort to use in both damage and utility
Literally why bother
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>>128782014
replace Gandalf with Jin and have Imai notice you during large-scale battles.
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>>128782259
That's something a lot of the new people playing the game lack

Hence all the stupid questions
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>>128777243
They can throw gems at me, but christ the rates don't make you feel any better.
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>>128782705
Probably because they don't want to make straight-up clones of what's top tier but may be scared to put out a unit that completely shits on said top-tier because powercreep kills games.
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>>128782705
>Metera
>Complicated
>Bad
You literally just press q and proceed to do almost double damage on your attacks.
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>>128781416
The daily life of a leecher.jpg
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>>128782705
>Metera
>hard to use
Just use her first skill, auto for 4 turns, ougi, use her other two skills, use her first skill again, repeat.
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It's just that bad game designer(s) think those stack idea is super cool and making a bunch of them. By looking at SSR Rosetta, I'm pretty sure they don't even play their own game.
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Is there any way to get basic books and orbs outside of their dailies? I need to lb some characters and I'm missing those.
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>>128783260
raids
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>>128783000
>Press q
Fucking dota
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>>128783153
They use stacks as limiters, if they removed those stacks you'd get Naru.
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>>128782705
You can't be this much of an inept
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>>128783260
They're easily found in the guide
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>>128783153
they do, they're just bad at it.
They released Nataku despite failing to clear it themselves and he's the easiest of the bunch with Makky
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>>128783329
It's just devs circlejerking while making cookie cutter chars but with stack system, that ain't gonna make them any better.
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https://twitter.com/tarutarurdm/status/685428264005808128
Get recruited and go help them.
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>>128783734
>Adjusting Game Balance
>Medusa HL
did they finally realize they cannot balance fucking shit?
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>>128782956
Releasing a bunch of garbage SSRs that nobody wants because of how bad they are kills the game too

Especially because they don't even bother to buff units that are universally renowned as dogshit like Dark Saru, Garbagegouza and Heles
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>>128776952
Is Percival still available?
[email protected]
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>>128783329
>if they removed those stacks you'd get Naru
>tfw every Dark SSR ever released will forever be shit because they aren't Naru
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>>128784256
A buff can't safe them except maybe heles
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>all this talk about naru being good
>my first ssr
>no idea how to use her
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>>128784256
Gorgonzola and Dank Saruman are memes, they would not be any more popular if they got buffed unless they somehow became top tier for their element meta, and that would require completely changing them.
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>>128784537
READ NIGGA READ
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>>128784403
There's always going to be a "best", even if it's only incrementally better than the second best. That doesn't make everything else shit.
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>>128784537
Reading would be the first step
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>>128784617
>bea
>there are only three slots you know
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>>128784537
Hit the enemies until they died.
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>>128784617
In a game where you can just take the best with a surprise ticket, yes it does. If you aren't on the top you're worthless. Saying "I'm going to use someone that isn't Naru" is the same as saying "I shouldn't be playing Dark"
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>>128784537
Way too many retards here.
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>>128784713
Were you trying to imply something?

>>128784782
Errrr, no it doesn't.
>you can just take the best with a surprise ticket
Once every 3-4 months you can grab the "best" character of one of 6 elements at the current time.
>if you aren't on top, you're worthless
It takes more than one character to make a team, friend. And even if Naru continues to be the objective "best" dark character in the future, there's no guarantee that there won't be a better composition that doesn't use her.
>all this hyperbole
It's clear you're super angry about something, but the reality is that there are literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams. And spoiler warning: dark isn't the be-all end-all element.
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Explain this Cygames
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>>128770547
of course, for more confusion you'd still pronounce a U in there, because MUH GREEK was the apparent intention.

>>128769304
and yet you don't -really- take him with you unless you pull him from the gacha because after rosetta cygames got greedy about it.
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>>128785374
>hyperbole
>someone is GW shamer
Naru is gbf equivalent of event multiplier card in other mobile games. If she does not get used in the future, it means the game balance went full retard.
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>>128783734
>>128783904
Will fire teams be saved now?
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>>128776707
I don't want to miss out on her, but by the time I'd actually have her I'd have nothing left to do and probably be sick of the game anyway. alas...
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>>128776952
Still have the Hanriette account ?
[email protected]
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>>128785374
>All this hyperbole
Tier lists are hyperbole now? Also every single character released since Naru has been far inferior to her, in terms of impact on their own elements or otherwise unless you count Yoda cheesing.

They're either not S tier on their own or there was already a better alternative to them in the A tier that makes them irrelevant because they don't fit anywhere
>It takes more than one character to make a team
Percival with top tier Rs probably gives you a better fire team than Heles with anyone that isn't already in the S tier for fire
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>>128786067
>thinking you'll be done with the game by the time you get your first GW
The game is barely starting then.
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>>128785374
>literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams
>Literally
>Dozens
Are you trying to trigger me or do you not know what the word literally or a dozen means?
Also when people use other characters it's not because they're good, it's because they don't have a better option until the next ticket or lucky roll.

The Naru part is just one example.
>If you're not using birdman you shouldn't be playing wind
>If you're not using Altair you shouldn't be playing water
>If you're not using Percy you shouldn't be playing fire
>If you're not using Jeanne you shouldn't be playing light
>If you're playing earth enjoy your shit team regardless
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>Flip on baha
Why do they do this to me.
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>>128786731
>Double flip on baha
>Two gold certs
I've never been so mad
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>>128786460
So, in vice versa, if I'm using Altair, I should be playing water?
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>>128786731
At least you got silver cert.
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>>128786460
>tfw have none of them
rip.
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>>128786871
Altair is just op so use him wherever you want desu senpai
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>>128786964
It's okay those are just for esports.
Any team with an SSR that isn't meme tier is good enough, just not the best it could be for that element.
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>>128786460
Man, you are super angry, aren't you?
>literally dozens
6 elements. 3 characters per active team (>implying you don't want good sub teams as well)
That's 18 characters if there was actually only one build per element that people used. In reality there are several for early game, magnas, events, and HL raids. That's easily 24.
SO:
Yes
Literally
Dozens
D O Z E N S
12. TWELVE. 10 + 2.
MULTIPLEs OF THAT NUMBER
Seriously, you can't really be this retarded, can you?

>>128786454
>tier lists
Are you trying to make a point? I've never disputed from my first post that some characters are better than others. That doesn't mean that literally one character makes every other character in the game redundant and useless, which is what you dumb niggers seem to want to argue.
>Percival with top tier Rs is better than ____
Since none of you mouth-breathing retards understand what hyperbole means, what you just said is a prime example of it. "Percival + 2 Rs" being better than some random team you can come up with doesn't make every fire SSR useless. In fact, of all the hundreds of possible combinations of teams, the majority of those random combinations are going to be better than Percival + 2Rs.

I honestly don't even know what point you're trying to make, anymore. Percival + good characters is going to be better than Percival + bad characters. Thus we've just proven that those "good characters" are useful.

I know I shouldn't argue with people who don't even apparently understand English, but I can't help it when you guys are just this retarded.
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>>128786871
Altair, Sara, Yoda(until endgame) and a few more that I forgot are so powerful they fit anywhere.
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>>128787358
>Calls other people mad
>Mouth-breathing retards insults
You're the maddest one here
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>>128785901
did percy and lanchan have a baby?
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>>128787343
There are also SR that blow some of the SSR out of the water like Catarina. pun intended
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Should I try and get a white rabbit drop before I start investing a lot of time into angel boost hour for the GW char grind?

I've got some mild PTSD after watching the one nico video of the guy trying the map 400 times before getting it. I don't have a strong Erun team either and I don't even know if I can kill the boss.
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>>128787358
Here we go again.
>Naru shits on everyone
>Unless new char is stronger than Naru (which indicates the game is going shithole) in they won't be used.
>If someone isn't waifufag, there is no point using inferior chars.
It's not that hard to understand, Please understand desu.
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>>128787651
Damn, you sure showed him.
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>>128787358
I think you're the angriest one of them
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>>128787742
Use a support or bring Hawkeye with Treasure Hunt 2 EX'ed.
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>>128787742
Don't even think about it unless you have hundreds of pots, but maybe you can get lucky.
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E-sports cancer are worse than Beatrix posters.
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>>128787785
Here we go again.
>There are multiple elements.
>There are multiple characters on a team.
It's not that hard to understand. I know you don't speak English, but hopefully you can at least piece together that much.
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>>128788047
Multiple elements about what? Were you trying to use Dark team against other elements or thinking Naru can stomp every element? Can someone interpret this?
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>Naru
>high tier
High rank Nips drop her because she doesn't do damage fast enough.
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>Not playing for cute boys and girls.

Shame on all of you
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>>128787358
Ok, when are you bringing Heles, Ghandagouza, Dark Saru, Melleau, Karmelina, Les Fie, Beatrix, Cerberus, Agielba, Sochie, Lily, Monkey, etc (Too many to name really). to any of that content where "DOZENS" are viable?

Hint you aren't because they're all trash no matter what content you're doing and these garbage characters exist in every element while characters like Vampi, Percival, and Jeanne are S tier no matter what you're doing
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>>128788030
That's actually a proper discussion of the mechanics of the game. Much better than the usual waifu discussion that gets nowhere and it's a waste of space, and should belong to /c/.
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>>128787358
>6 elements. 3 characters per active team (>implying you don't want good sub teams as well)
Are you retarded?
The conversation was about Naru so why would we be talking about other elements that aren't dark?
Even more so why would you add up characters across all elements together to be dozens, are you that desperate to prove yourself right on after being called out?
You have a single element team, you do not have dozens of good characters to fill those spots because most elements don't even have a dozen SSRs unless you count GW characters & seasonals you dumb fucking subhuman.
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>>128788213
>naru was the key char during the last light boss GW event
>drop her
>ok
I know you are just shitter, but whatever.
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>>128788030
I prefer shitflinging about the game than repetitive waifumeming and posting
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>>128788296
I really hope you're being deliberately obtuse, because nobody can seriously be this retarded.

Hint: Implying that dozens of characters are good and usable doesn't imply that all 60+ SSRs are usable and good.
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>>128788473
>Dozens are good and usable
Yeah maybe in the game total but not in each element
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>>128788473
Usable in terms of
>I can literally put a char in a slot
>I'm pisspoor/unlucky so I don't have the char so I have to use what I have
Is that what you're implying? This is getting more retarded.
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>Cygames searching for a game-balancer
>/gbfg/ applies and lands the job.

Alright lets hear your wishes.
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>>128788775
Make Naru Dark Saru tier
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>>128788775
Buff waifus
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>>128788775
Actually they'd been doing pretty good before they released Naru.
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This meta bullshit discussion.
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>>128788775
Nerf Naru. Reduce her buff and lengthen the number of waiting turns.
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>>128788775
gandalf gets a five star and fenrir is made playable, as is a ferri ssr

fenrir does debuffs and ferri's ougi has an effect that occurs the turn after the ougi
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>>128788775
bring Anira back or make clone.
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>>128788363
Considering my original post mentioned that there were dozens of usable SSRs and never constrained that argument to dark, I'd say you're backtracking or just can't read. Considering there are no elements with "dozens" of SSRs in them, I have no idea how that couldn't be abundantly clear even to the most retarded /vg/ posters (which you really shouldn't be proud to count yourself among).

>>128788613
No shit. See above.

>>128788661
You should probably stop posting if you know so little about this game that you continue to make this retarded "hurrrrr every one of my teams is Naru/Percy/Altair" argument.
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>>128788775
give Baha dagger another passive to effect every other race at a reduced rate.
Be able to fuse weapon passives, with chance of failure and add GW reward item to increase the chances
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>>128789050
>Dozens of viable SSRs in the game total
>Literally 3-4 per element and everything else is garbage
Ok I'm glad we finally agree now that we understand what the other was saying
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Wow, Lecia's dad is pretty swag.
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>>128788954
>>128788298
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>>128789050
>y-you know nothing shut up
I bet you haven't even tried 6-man HL or are doing shit in GW. Give me some actual retort than shitpost.
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>>128789189
>Lecia
Who?
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>>128789183
So I was completely 100% correct all along that Naru existing doesn't make every other SSR in the game worthless?

Thanks for acknowledging that.

>>128789236
I'd rather spend effort arguing with people who can speak English. You know this is an English imageboard, right?
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>>128789342
You are being a disappointment. Show me your pool.
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>>128789342
I didn't mean to imply she makes every other SSR in the game worthless, just that she makes every other SSR in Dark aside from Vampy, Grey and maybe H.Cag depending on the fight worthless

And that since her release cygames has released 0 SSRs that are on par with her in other elements (Fire Metera is not going to cause people to stop using Clarice and Percival), so their top SSRs remain undisturbed making them worthless releases.
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>>128789219
>proper disscussion
>this
It's literally multiple howler monkeys yelling "nuh uh" at each other.
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>>128789424
>I have no argument and talk like a retard, better divert attention by demanding people in thread to show off completely unrelated magna-farming accomplishments while posting none of my own
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>>128789050
>Saying "I'm going to use someone that isn't Naru" is the same as saying "I shouldn't be playing Dark"
>dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams
>Hurr we're totally not talking about dark characters guys I totally knew how much a dozen was before I googled it
So what you're telling me is you replied with completely redundant shit which had nothing to do with what was said so you're a retard, or you're trying to cover your retarded fuck up and therefore still a retard.
You could also just be a fucking retarded newfag who thinks grande teams are a normal thing and people run Naru in every team.
No matter what you're a fucking retard.
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>>128788775
Unusable characters like Dark Saru, Ganda and Carmelina get their skills revised so they're not counter-productive.

Once a year, you can buy a ticket that lets you roll for all characters of the game, limit the number so we don't get another pants on head retarded "scandal" because some nips spend too much money. This will help with all the newfags that will go "tfw can't have Anira" in the future.

Create a meaningful character synergy system so that a wider variety of teams become viable, through either skills that work better when used in combination or buffs after completing a quest or something.
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>>128789604
>I'm noob but I know this game trust me
>throwing out retard logics and calling others retard
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>>128789295

Lisha/Liscia or however else people spell it.
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>>128789613
>completely leaving out the intermediary post stating "there will always be a best. that doesn't make every other character worthless"
>implying that trying to refute that claim wasn't what set off this whole string of shitposting
You continue to impress me with how retarded you are and how selectively you read.
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>>128789690
>Create a meaningful character synergy system so that a wider variety of teams become viable
Baha weapons were a mistake
>Human Bonus
>More than 50% of the game's SSRs are humans
>Most top tier SSRs are humans
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>>128788775
Add this qt into the game.
Make more unusual-element characters that aren't human (water doraf, dark erun, wind harbin,etc.)
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>>128789863
Because we are the superior race.
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Old man smokes weed lmao
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>>128789863
>look at all these bahamut weapons you can choose from
>everyone picks dagger and sword regardless
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>>128789825
Please just go back to Facebook with the rest of your SEA friends and stop ban evading already.
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>>128788775
Dark Saru, Ghanda and Heles reworked/in queue for a good 5*
Additional buffs to Magisa's skills on 5*
Swap the aggro up/down effects on Bear
I don't have many characters so I can't tell what others need
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>>128790096
Answer this simple question first:
Assume you have Naru and a char inferior to Naru got released, will you use it?
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>>128790096
Dear god I thought we left this chucklefuck back in mbgg
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>>128790282
*that
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>>128789838
>There will always be a best, that doesn't make other characters worthless
But most elements top tiers remain top tier no matter what content you're doing

Once you have Jeanne and Amira those character slots are never going to anyone else, same with Percival and Clarice or Vampi and Naru

Aside from the 3rd slot which -SOMETIMES- may get changed depending on what level of content you're doing (Like Sara in earth if you're doing HL) anything that is released in that "role" that isn't better than those units is without a doubt worthless.
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>>128790262
Yes. Even in dark (which is what you should EXPLICITLY state in your question), the best team will either be the best 3 characters, or the best synergistic combination of characters. If the new character (which I'll assume for the sake of your question is dark) is better than the second and third best characters or creates a better total synergy, it will be used.
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>>128790572
Of course it's fucking dark, does this guy even play the game?
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>>128789838
>completely leaving out the intermediary post stating "there will always be a best. that doesn't make every other character worthless"

That post has nothing to do with anything, you were not replying to that post when you spewed retardation everywhere so don't bother backtracking trying to save face.
You were replying to a post which stated Naru was the best dark and replied THERE'S LITERALLY DOZENS OF CHARACTERS OUTSIDE OF NARU
Fucking kill yourself you fucking third world monkey.
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>>128788775
>game-balancer
erase every weapon's skill, all weapon have 150 hp 1500 atk
replace every chara's skill with : burn, burn, heal
replace every chara stats with 2000 hp 5000 atk
raids don't have ults

There you go. Balance!!!
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>>128790976
>not enough meme
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>>128790976
Not true balance, some characters will be used more than others because people find them more appealing. You need to balance that too.
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>>128791319
>All characters now have a main weapon slot to switch elements
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>>128791319
they can all be ganda so they can all be unappealing

i call moustache doraf ganda as a waifu, as opposed to midgetbait ganda
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>>128791319
>Every character is Cag
Fixed
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>>128788376
She takes too many clicks if you're rushing.
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>>128790485
That's a much broader topic of discussion, and one I'm inclined to agree with.

>>128790786
Please calm down, anon. You're raging super hard and it's making it hard for you to understand even basic concepts. I'll try to lay it out in a way that even you could understand.
>first post says every dark SSR ever released will be shit because they aren't Naru
>reply saying that there will always be a best, that doesn't make everything else shit
>"nuh uh, yes it does" "if you aren't on top you're worthless
>reply that clearly addresses the point that a dark team requires 2 more characters, and you had clearly left out the very real possibility of a new dark character dethroning naru. I then go on to broaden the argument and explain that, regardless of element, the presence of a "top" doesn't completely invalidate every other character.
>you get triggered by the second half of my argument, and get stuck on the word "dozens" without being able to actually read words put together at a middle-school level
>you get so hung up on proving me wrong about "lol ur so dumb there's not dozens of Narus in dark" that you make yourself look like a total retard rather than just accepting the fact that you're wrong.

It really wasn't that hard to follow, anon. Even a retard like you can figure this stuff out if you calm down for a few minutes.
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>>128791738
are they switching to beato? who's deepsing if not naru?
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>>128791942
Vira/Gray/Vampy
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>>128791319
Characters can be replaced with elemental orbs, which will just be floating balls of the color of each element, they don't have names, only their element like Earth Orb, Water Orb etc so they are not discriminated based on name. They are all voiced by the same person and have the same personality which will be a super standard low profile personality so none of them stands out.
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