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We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 16th:
27 BC – Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus is granted the title Augustus by the Roman Senate, marking the beginning of the Roman Empire.
750 – The army of Abdallah ibn Ali and Abu Awn Abd al-Malik ibn Yazid defeats that of Marwan II in the Battle of the Zab, bringing the Abbasid Revolution to completion.
929 – Emir Abd-ar-Rahman III established the Caliphate of Córdoba.
1945 – Adolf Hitler moves into his underground bunker, the so-called Führerbunker.


>News
HOI4 DD 40
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-40th-development-diary-15th-of-january-2016.902478/

EU4 DD 14/01
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-january-14th-2016.902300/

CK2 Conclave DD 1
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/conclave-dev-diary-1.902002/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.2.1 - 23/12/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>128614478
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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First for Taiwan numba wan
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CHINA DLC PLS
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>>128705972
>2015+1
>not liking funposting
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>>128706078
Why
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>>128706078
wut mod
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>>128706078
>Joseon there without any of the Korean peninsula
literally for what purpose
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>>128706242
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mod-the-warring-states-period-chunqiu-zhanguo-mod.765384/
>>128706201
Because it would be great?
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r8
>tfw can't go out drinking because I'm fucking broke
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>>128706359
>Because it would be great?
Yeah, assuming they 1. optimized the game (lol xDD 233333~) and 2. actually put work into a system for China instead of pulling a Byzantium
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Is it possible to remain the French Empire indefinitely after installing Napoleon III in HPM? What are the conditions for doing so?
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>>128706398
Why the fuck did the UK have Oklahoma?
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>>128706527
Don't lose Alsace-Lorraine.
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What went wrong /gsg/?
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this is the best europe which has ever existed historically
prove me wrong
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>>128706578
They didn't, they were allied with the CSA so they were war leader.
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>>128706604
Jiang Jieshi was incompetent and Mao completely lost his shit after a while
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This thread was made in the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful.
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guys whats fun things i can do in Europa Universalis 4 using cheats ?
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>>128706829
...................................
bearhaslanded.
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>>128706717
>Bulgaria doesn't own Macedonia

Take it back to the drawing board
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>>128706816
thanks crane
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>>128706604
He didn't industrialize and westernize his country by importing minds like Japan did. Nor killed the local warlords that eventually broken the country apart.

An united, rich and powerful China would mean the end of the West anyways.
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>>128706118
You know what? Fuck you
Every day I slave away for you ungrateful fucks and you never recognize that i'm the one keeping this fucking general alive
And never has there been a single person to thank me for this
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>>128706717
>no Finland
>no Poland
>Australian Trent
>German A-L
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>>128706604

he helped end the last dynasty
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>>128707019
Not the end but at least China wouldn't be Murica 2.0: The Declaration of False Communism edition
>>128707042
>you're the one keeping this general alive
Lad I posted 75 posts in the last thread alone.
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>>128707163
Qing was going to implode anyway.
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>>128707186
So what, I slave away creating new threads, updating the OP and deleting useless posts, but everyone only talks about "the 'report and ignore autist'"
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>>128707435
Look kid they don't even talk about me, when the thread dies they'll all remember the autist in their hearts but they're certainly not remember the nameless anon #55553112267
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>>128707042
lmao kill yourself
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>>128707435
>pretending to be the OP, a janitor, the report and ignore guy when both aren't even the same IP
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>>128707042
wew
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>>128707042
false flag
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>>128706604

Single handedly destroyed the legitimacy of the republic & kicked off the warlord era
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>>128707435
I'd rather have /gsg/ die than have the report and ignore autist and jannies shit it up.
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>>128707547
>>128707757
>>128707547
Sure, just because I want a little recognition I must be a random shitposter?
You know what, fuck you
Go back to posting useless shit that no one cares about and only serve to fuck up the thread
I don't even know why I do this shit for you
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>>128704917
>republican
>dream
Died right there.
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>>128708384
jejej
try posting quicker next time, you look like a samefag
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>>128708239
>>128708384
>101 seconds difference
>talking to yourself and deleting your own posts
>still pretending to be that guy and the OP when both are not even the same IP
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I'm making the official call for Aurora 4x.

Terraforming installations > Terraforming ships
Before you leave Sol this is indisputable. It's just too damn expensive and time consuming to build the ships. First it's going to take years to get a shipyard to a real size so you aren't building ships with 1 god damn module on them. Then they take up precious Mercassium, while installations only take Duranium and Boronide. Then you need to build all the other ship shit that makes them go in space which is more resources and a side effect, more time.

If you build infrastructure right then the colonies should start building enough of their own to be self sufficient until you terraform the planet, then you ought to have tens of thousands of infrastructure to move around and repeat the process.
Unless you're retarded and you try to put infrastructure on Venus. They're only going to complain your whole game and put interrupts in your auto-turns. It can be colonized, but only by ships and it will take like 100 years from the moment you start to colonize it.
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>>128708872
>br
wew lad
kill yourself
delete yourself then
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>>128708840
wrong thread
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Can the norse culture split start before 950 or atleast the appearance of normans?
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>>128708872
>implying this isn't a false flag false flag
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>>128709000
>playing meme start dates
>not wanting believable worlds where half of europe is reformed north by 1000
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>>128708840
Aurora 4X belongs to /civ4xg/.
>>>/vg/civ4xg/
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>>128708924
>>128709083
>replying to non-existent posts
>>>/r/eddit
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>>128709521
s-sorry anon
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>>128709557
dumb stutterposter
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>>128709134
I'm just doing a fuck around run
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>>128709693
s-sorry anon
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>>128706604
He died before he could complete his job and the KMT was taken over by fucking Chiang Kai-shek
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>>128709976
>tfw passably competent king with 16 martial and 12 diplomacy dies in the middle of a civil war
>tfw heir is imbecile
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>>128708927
I want faggot casuals to leave.
>>128709314
That's hilarious. I love 15 post threads.
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Why Postapoc mod for the CK2 wasn't updated for half a year? Is it completely abandoned?
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>>128710019
s-sorry anon
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>>128710737
>jewdick
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>>128710737
>pushing the can that far in
insecure much lmao
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>>128710737
I've seen this dick before, you can't fool me, Anon.
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I'm so hungry for a gsg that I even tried Civ5

EU, Vicky and HoI can only last so long
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>>128706527
Don't lose Franco-Prussian wars, don't give any voting rights
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My Lithuanian Meme-ga Campaign came to an abrupt end when my genius, heirless king died of explosive diarrhea while conquering Poland.

Who should I try this time? Only restrictions are: no Muzzies, no Republics, no Hindus. The memier the better.
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>>128711564
Are you playing with a mod? Either way, do the classic persia takeover. That or a hellenic roman restoration starting in that one province gap between the two papal provinces.
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>>128711727
>>128711564
Also - Enatic succession.
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http://strawpoll.me/6549487
http://strawpoll.me/6549487
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>>128711945
>290+ votes in one minute
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>>128712191
Whoever is spamming didn't even pick the correct choice
Mongolia-Hungary
unHPM make it happen
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I let them win or I wait until they win the elections?
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>>128712464
If you don't care about immigrants then let them win.
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>>128712464
there should be an option to just let the rebels win. make it happen hpm
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>>128712464
>losing prestige
get them to win the elections
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>>128712745
there is, type
[~break]
but without the brackets
this is a special hpmeme command
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I-I just can't do it anymore
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>>128714883
What do you need me to post another dick, you faggot?
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>>128714883
forgot muh pic
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>>128715068
Ayyy, you have that Shen nigger added too, i don't know how the fuck he plays so much EUIV without killing himself.
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Why is Crusader Kings 2 such a meme game without any historical thought put into it?
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>>128715339
it was a big hit with casuals so they targeted them with every dlc
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>>128715245
Shen's a furry and a cuck. If he hasn't killed himself already, he's never going to.
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I can't stop singing this especially the part of George

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac
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>>128715397
>>128715339
Which is weird because the game's actually got the most 'going on' in any Paradox title. More mechanic-minigames, more depth, more planning required. Easy to learn, difficult to 'master'.
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y tho
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>>128715009
>>128715115
>>128715329
>>128715520
>>128715624
Funposting hater janny strike again
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>>128716051
rip
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is yamdam good
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>>128717446
no
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>>128717446
yes
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yes or no you fucking cucks
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>>128717446
idk
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>>128717446
Maybe
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>>128717580
maybe yes or maybe no, I never played it
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How do I buy Alaska as Japan?
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>>128717446
I once invaded and annexed Israel as Syria in a few months with no response from the US or anyone else.
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>>128717772
yes
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>>128717772
no
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>>128717772
maybe
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I wish dynamic province names was in Victoria 2. It's one of the things that I like about EU4.
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>>128718154
no
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>>128718154
maybe
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>>128710570
The github was yesterday.
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>>128717772
i don't know
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>>128718154
What vicky needs is dynamic treaties.
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>>128714828
thank you anon
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The Germans really are the worst blobbers.
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Will Conclave make CK2 playable?

It looks like Parajews are actually trying to make something decent for once.
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>>128718747
fake bullshit
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>>128719175
*jewish propaganda
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rate my borders ladettes
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Yo, Alternative flag pack guy. You said that you were having trouble making a non silver legion US fascist flag, I think that the flag of the Commander-in-Chief's Guard from the revolutionary war could be a good inspiration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief%27s_Guard

"Conquer or Die" is too cool of a phrase to not use.
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>>128718959
>Infamy
>Coalitions
>Shattered Retreat

Nope
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>>128718959
>still no way to turn off india or limit the amount of non landed characters

no
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>>128719876
>Infamy
>Coalitions
>CK2
Why did they think this was a good idea?
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HPMguy, what's your thoughts on this submod that someone on the paradox forums made?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/historical-project-mod-submod.880610/
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>>128720748
holy crackers, that is a lot of brigades
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I'm going to do a Japan game, and go for these borders.

Pink are either objectives for late game, or countries I will just puppet.

Did I forget anything ?
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>mfw I convert to Christianity as the emperor of Imperial Poland and everyone in my empire is apparently fine with it.

They even converted to Catholicism within a week, feels strange but now I can conquer the Baltics guilt-free.
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in EU4 what nation has the most unique events?
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I'm so bored of Earth all the time, holy shit.

I wish there was a mod that gave a completely new world to play in, new countries and events an decisions and all.
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>>128721451
stellaris

CK2 mods
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>>128721352
East Asia Co Prosperity Sphere
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>>128721451
Stellaris :))
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>>128721451
Lux Invicta
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>>128721508
>>128721542
>Futureshit
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>>128721451
Warhammer.
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>>128721631
I said not Earth.

>>128721834
I said something new.
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Finally finished with fucking Rumelia, Greco-Turkish War time

I'm also going to test the feasibility of complete population exchanges, I want to have population exchange events/decisions for Serbia, Greece, Turkey, and Montenegro

Anyone want a download with the version that only has Rumelia?
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>>128721920
a game of memes
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>>128721524
Where's the one with the Italian Empire in it.

>>128721938
Is it compatible as a submod for HPM?
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>>128721352
Make sure to include wars that do nothing but hinder the Chinese.
Don't just have more land and people than them, actively drive them lower as well.
Turn them into harmless mud farmers.
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>>128722080
got ya senpai
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>>128721920
i started to draw up a shitty map for an idea for that kinda shit

if it's any good i could give it another go
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>>128722080
Yep, it actually can't function by itself, so HPM is a must
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>>128722069
>I said something new
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>>128722159
So what are the different shades supposed to represent?
Or do they just distinguish the territory as it exists today? But then there's the French thing.
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>>128722214
Give us a DL link.

>>128722204
Are you playing with plate tectonics? I've been fucking around with making a new world but can never make the landmasses believable.
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>>128722347
I believe its degrees of autonomy
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>>128722159
>Antarctica
Why
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>>128722491

>degrees of autonomy
>Brazil is directly controlled by Germany
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>>128722603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia
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>>128722469
i gave it a thought or two but i never actually got very into it because i literally know nothing about it and couldn't find relevant material to learn

mostly i thought of induvidual landmasses that exist already and pasted them together, pic related
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>>128722785
believe the name of the region has something to do with it, and the colors are extremely similar but Brazil is lighter
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>>128722915
whats that blue shit on the top
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>>128722214
Here lad, v.01

Features Eastern Rumelia and not much else, completely compatible with HPM, eastern Rumelia gets released during the Berlin Congress, there are events that move some turkish pops in rumelia to istanbul and Bulgaria can annex Rumelia if they have Mass Politics.

I'll start with Crete since that was the cause of the Greco-Turkish War

From this map it appears the Turks didn't have as much of an ethnic presence irl that they do in HPM, so I'll try to find some census data then fix it.
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>>128723175
brittany desu
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>>128721432
England or Turks senpai
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>>128723201
fuck I'm retarded here's the link
https://www.mediafire.com/?90rar9i5jkcavya
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>>128722159
Fuck, that is a sexy flag.

>>128722915
This is what I have. I have some sort of strange inner sea system going on on the Old Continent, and the New World isn't very big.
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>>128722786
what is japan doing there
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http://poal.me/fe07e0
http://poal.me/fe07e0
http://poal.me/fe07e0
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meet my son
the king of italy

how this happen? The holy roman empire took over most of northern italy and to be honest I want to limit the kaiser's power. An invasion later and boom no more germans in italy.

but now came the hard part of holding it, so in a bold political move I made my son catholic and then made him king of italy, my other son is also a king so I wont inherit the kingdom, thank god, but now that I have family on the thrones of italy and the byzantine emprie I can assure I have dominance over meditteranean politics.

r8 my political power plays
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>>128706717
>Turks control Constantinople
>Turks control Antioch
>Turks control Jerusalem
>Turks control Alexandria

try again kid
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I still maintain East vs West could have been fixed simply by increasing the amount of supplies created in provinces and toning down rebel frequency.
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>>128723731
delete this you fucking antisemite
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>>128723371
looks good, but in my opinion it'd need some work to be aesthetic. the trick to making shit i deem good is to maximize recognizable features and go for simple shapes. I've highlighted areas that i'd revise if it were my project.

most of these are for shape instead of coastline, but just keep in mind that 99 percent of the time a square peninsula is a shit peninsula
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>>128706717
>Portugal doesn't control Galicia
shit/10
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>>128723201
Here's the problem, there are way too many turks in Crete. Historical, although Crete had a sizable muslim population, many of those muslims were Greek converts who converted to get favorable taxes/civil advantages. I'm going to halve the Turk population but replace the removed turks with muslim Greeks. The religion wont change, but the ethnicity will.

Here's sources
The Near East: A modern history by Ann Arbor
Cretan Rebel: Eleftherios Venizelos in Ottoman Crete

I'll be off for now, hopefully Crete's pops will be done by tomorrow
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I've played out HoI2
I've played out Vicky2
I've played out EU4 and I can't go back to 3
I don't want to play CK2, Aurora or HoI4

There's fucking nothing left
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>>128724286
How does it feel to know you're making a based minimod but HPM all never integrate it because he's a massive faggot?

Also, did you make the Greek culture's colour blue or HPM?
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>>128724423
Learn HoI3 then you fucking mong.
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>>128724423
DH and Kaiserreich
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>>128724423
ck2 is okay

did you try some esoteric shit like rhodesia or ?
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>>128724426
Just like he never integrated AMM, the sudetes changes, the persia minimod or any of the others
Oh wait
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>>128724576
By HoI2 I mean DH of course, synonymous

KR has been played out

>>128724585
Are you saying Rhodesia in CK2?
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Why the fuck is the FRCA breaking up when everything is under control and I have little militancy. I lost Nicaragua and Costa Rica in the beginning then later on they want to join and immediately the FRCA dissolves and plunges into civil war despite no problems. WTF
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>>128724426
Meh, It wouldn't bother me if he ignored it, I'll keep updating it, he's not that bad

The Greek color thing is an HPM thing, he added it fairly recently
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>>128724712
Except he specifically said he wouldn't integrate this mod because he's a massive fucking faggot.

Not sure about Persia but he extremely begrudgingly changed the Sudetenland due to popular appeal.
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>>128724780
no, for vicky you fucking mongoloid
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>>128724879
That's a whole lot of claims batman, you got any sauce to back that up?
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>>128724829
After this can you take over the Australia minimod please? There's been a guy "working on it" for more than a year now.
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>>128724974
Well you could easily try a 'rhodesia' for EU or perhaps even HoI

Yes I have and it wasn't that fun.
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>>128724991
Yes, let me just pull out every single /gsg/ post, which I screenshot and save for future reference at all times.
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>>128725009
I've heard of the mod, what does it do? I might try to keep it alive, but no promises.
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>>128725120
It's not like he posts with a searchable trip or anything like that, right?
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>>128725069
yeah okay that makes sense
but not for ck2

converting shitty eu4 games is okay

i liked british columbia, and colonial british argentina
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>>128725210
It's not like archive.moe recently closed and there is no good site to search /vg/ posts, is it?

Why can't you just take my word for it? I'm hardly going to lie about such a pointless thing.
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>>128725361
Here friendo
https://boards.fireden.net/
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>>128725361
It's not like we have other 2 sites wroking as archives and archive.moe is completly irrelevant since when the guy started it was already dead, right?
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>>128725198
It was supposed to divide Australia into it's individual states prior to federalisation as happened in real life rather than Britain just giving them independence as Australia, of course it never did because the creator was a PoS who managed to make the first ever vaporware mod.
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>>128725489
>>128725463
Alright I'll level with yah, lads, this is rob here, I was trying to defamate HPM again.

Seriously though, even you have to admit he's stubborn to add anything, during the Sudetenland debacle people were trying to get him to add it and he said it was pointless as the German minority was already represented and that such a thin border would cause graphical issues, in short he tried to swerve it.
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>>128725705
So absolutely no proof at all?

>he said it was pointless as the German minority was
If you know what he said it makes it even easier to find the post
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>>128724585
What's rhodesia?
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>>128725509
I dunno, would it even have an effect on gameplay besides just having more satellites/tags in Australia?
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>>128725509
pretty pointless imo, what next, 5 independent substates in Canada prior to confederation? The country received independence as a united Australia, anything that happened before that was shifting administrative responsibilities.
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>>128725859
Jesus the HPMIDF is busting my balls tonight.

I don't know his exact words, I'm paraphrasing, I believe you're practising some pretty rampant cognitive dissonance in not acknowledging how prone HPM is to being stubborn.
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>>128725884
Something great ruined by black people and the UN
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>>128725917
Are you meming right now lad? I can't tell. Canada does have 5 independent substrates prior to confederation, Rupert's land, Newfoundland, the Maritime union, Colombia and Quebec.

>>128725913
Historical accuracy is a meaningful argument.
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>>128725991
Fuck off Rob
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>>128726106
those are tags with cores owned by the UK, not independent states on the map day 1. And I was referring to Upper and Lower Canada, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, the Maritime union is an ahistorical abstraction that shouldn't exist if you want to go to that level of detail.
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>>128725248
I did...this. I think I'm the only person here to ever post about Khodynt.

It's fucking impossible with new Ming now though
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>>128725991
I have no problem with HPM personally (apart from that he is too stubborn for his own good) but the fact that saying anything against the party line gets you violently attacked by a mob of obsessive fans has really made /gsg/ a worse place.
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>>128725991
I believe you just made a bullshit claim that he said he wouldn't integrate anything and made excuse after excuse to not present proof
Calling anyone HPMIDF shows you are just here to create some drama

>HPM said X
>Prove it
>I can't, there's million of posts
>Search his trio
>I can't, there's no archive
>Here's the archive
>JUST BELIEVE ME OK? WHY WOULD I LIE FUCK OFF HPMIDF
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>>128726106
Eh, sounds too autistic even for me.

I'll only make it if somebody else makes the flags, I don't know anything about any of those Austrian shitters
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>>128726308
I'm not the guy you're arguing with but he's publicly said that if it comes to integrating another modder's work or doing it his way he'd rather do it his way, when asked if he'd integrate RDS.
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>>128726306
Asking for proof that someone said something is now considered " gets you violently attacked by a mob of obsessive fans"
Jesus christ drama queen
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Hot damn HPMIDF is out in full force tonight. Reddit must be down.
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Ladies and gentlemen, does anyone remember the days when Khazaria would cease to exist 15 years into the game? I sure do.

Khazaria isn't the only Khazarian nation by the way, they took over Serbia, Khiva, Armenia and even formed a friendly merchant republic in Nikopolis which has tried 3 times to invade Byzantium and fail.

Meanwhile my quaint little ethiopian jewish kingdom flourishes after repelling two invasions from the Miski sultanate which is now imploding after their caliph of 62 years died.

Rate my autism please.
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>>128726423
Which is different from "he specifically said he wouldn't integrate this mod because he's a massive fucking faggot.", and you can add to that he consistently integrated good work before.

By the way he said that he wouldn't integrate RDS because he has his own system, because RDS got some shit wrong and because he would rather leave people choose how their map looks
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>>128726429
It's true though and happens all too often. I don't understand the mentality of people who feel they have an obligation to protect an anonymous modder on the internet who they've never even met.
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>>128726594
It's true that asking for proof of a claim is being violently attacked?
Are you a SJW?
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>>128726278
Yes, that's how it would be for Australia. Currently the entire bottom right of the map lacks any flavour whatsoever, where Canada has all that shit going on.
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>>128726530
Oh and heres the full extent to grosskhazariums
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>>128726423
WHERE'S YOUR SOURCE? WHERE'S YOUR FUCKING SOURCE HE SAID THAT YOU FUCKING CRETIN? FUCK OFF HPM IS FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!
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>>128726283
man if you're really that bored, just fucking do something else.

there's more ways than gs to autism your way to glory.

just look at these faggots
>>128723949
>>128723371
>>128722915
>>128722204
that could be you, senpai
that takes like no effort
and it's EXACTLY what you want
so find some GS you want to do or just fucking make some content.

also what is least shit flag
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>>128726585
>By the way he said that he wouldn't integrate RDS because he has his own system, because RDS got some shit wrong and because he would rather leave people choose how their map looks

Provide proof for this statement.
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>>128726594
Maybe they just feel the need to protect something they love, it's basic human instinct
What I don't understand is why people feel they have an obligation to attack someone they never met because he does a mod they don't need to play, to the point of pretending to be him, faking posts and shit
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>>128726726
I just think having them as substates like the minimod does is silly, having cores and events to represent federation sure (though annoying if you just want to play a released Australia game), but if there's one thing HPM doesn't need its more useless puppet states with >50k pops. Canada has all that shit going on but until 1867 and federation its all just British colonies, the flavour happens under the hood so to speak.
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>>128726885
Provide proof people feel the need to defend HPM.
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>>128726308
>Calling anyone HPMIDF shows you are just here to create some drama
>>128726501
>>128726840
>>128726882
>>128727002
Like clockwork

It was just an attempt to stir drama
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Dutch game in victoria 2, already reclaimed Belgium, as well as seized the british Malay colonies in the war. Everything may have gone better than expected. I have a ton of infamy though, should I just be slow burning infamy while I wait and building up industry taking the indonesia imperialism events?
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>>128726372
The territories current flags could serve as their monarchy flags, wouldn't be hard to concoct rep, fascist and com flags.

>>128726974
Yeah but Canada gets the VIP treatment so why shouldn't Australia?
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>>128726885
>Maybe they just feel the need to protect something they love
>something they love

kek. if you love HPM, then that explains more than enough. I hope your life improves so that you no longer have to compete for the heart of an anonymous modder on the internet.
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>>128727103
Where's your proof it was said to stir drama?
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>>128727103
>demand someone show proof that HPM said something
>panic when asked to do the same thing

Like clockwork. HPM drones are all bark and no bite.
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>>128727179
I'm talking about the mod, not the modder
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>>128727103
Damn HPM is mad
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>>128726885
>attack
now who is the drama queen?
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>>128726372
>>128726974
>>128727159
Here's some proof on the status of the Australian states.

>Between 1855 and 1890, the six colonies individually gained responsible government, managing most of their own affairs while remaining part of the British Empire.[17] The Colonial Office in London retained control of some matters, notably foreign affairs,[18] defence,[19] and international shipping. New Zealand achieved responsible government in 1853, New South Wales and Victoria in 1855, Tasmania in 1856, Queensland in 1859 (separated from New South Wales in that year with self-government from the beginning) and Western Australia in 1890. These arrangements were confirmed by the Colonial Laws Validity Act 1865.

>The Colonial Laws Validity Act 1865 was a British Act of Parliament to define the relationship between local ("colonial") and British ("imperial") legislation. It confirmed that colonial legislation was to have full effect within the colony, limited only to the extent that it was not in contradiction with ("repugnant to") any Imperial Act which extended to that colony. The Act had the effect of clarifying and strengthening the position of colonial legislatures, while at the same time restating their ultimate subordination to the British Parliament.

>Until the passage of the Act, a number of colonial statutes had been struck down by local judges on the grounds of repugnancy to English laws (whether or not those English laws had been intended by Parliament to be effective in the colony). This had been a particular problem for the government in South Australia, where Justice Benjamin Boothby had struck down local statutes on numerous occasions in the colony's Supreme Court.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Laws_Validity_Act_1865

I believe on the dates provided the states should gain independence as either substrates or puppets of Britain.
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>>128726882
Sure
5 minutes in the archive

>>128353603
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>>128727350
>implying that's any better

Seriously man, maybe you should just chill out away from /gsg/ for a while. There is more to life than an average mod for a 5 year old game. Give your parents a call or play some frisby maybe, you know?
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>>128727709
Well man it's not like I can do all that and still love a mod or a game

Why don't you just stop worrying some random stranger on the internet likes something? Why does that bother you that much?
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>>128727631
So are we actually going to discuss this lads or keep shitposting about nothing? I really want to see Australia fleshed out in Vicky.
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>>128727850
It doesn't particularly bother me but when someone feels so strongly about a video game mod that they say they "love" it and see the mod creator as a member of their own family, you'd be a fool not to expect some confused reactions to that. It's a very strange thing to consider a mod or video game as an object of affection.

I hope things get better for you. Seriously, man.
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>>128728263
>it and see the mod creator as a member of their own family
Well shit, do tell me when someone says that then

If you can't love a good mod or a good game, then I suggest you are in the wrong place, Most people who play video games are very passionate about their hobby, which is why things can lead to big shitstorms easily

What a sad life you must live when you are incapable of loving the hobby, the games and the mods you are here to discuss
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>>128727631
That's fair, but I still say it's silly, It's on the same scale as giving Prince Edward Island independence as a puppet when it got responsible government in 1849, the nation is just so underpopulated and in all fairness irrelevant, just like Canada that there's no point representing it until its actually a united nation. Some abstractions are necessary especially with something as complicated as British relations to the commonwealth. That's just my opinion though, it's not like a minimod is being forced on me and if someone wants to make it good for them.

South Africa doesn't appear until the union.
Canada doesn't appear till Confederation.
Why should Australia be special?
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>>128706717
Very close, my friend. Very close.
This is best map.
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>>128727631
Responsible government is a poor metric for independence, like that other anon said the individual Canadian colonies all got it early on, Cape Colony and the other parts of South Africa got it long before the Boer War, it's just another part of the march to independence not the beginning of it.
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>>128728434
What you are doing and what you are feeling isn't healthy. There is nothing wrong with having a hobby and being passionate about it. Some people are passionate about film. Then you have people who become obsessive fans of certain films and actors, who then become shut-ins and possible stalkers. When you take it too far, a hobby turns into an obsession.

This is what you are doing with HPM. Please, think of your own health.
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>>128728621
>portugese galicia
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
THAT'S IT
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
IM DONE
IM FUCKING DONE WITH THESE GODDAMN SHITTY ASS MAPS
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>>128728478
Well I feel it should be modelled for two reasons:

1. Historical accuracy

2. More flavour for the region.

Currently nothing happens in Australia until three quartets of the way through the game, it is literally just a big red blob. This does nothing to represent the actual story of the region.

Furthermore, I would support Prince Edward Island being given substrate status in 1849 if it wasn't for it being so irrelevant, but Australia is a lot more relevant than a tiny island in Canada, currently Australia has literally no flavour whatsoever where as every other country, including Argentina is accurately represented, why does the game model the Argentine confederation but not the Australian states?
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>>128728826
Say another bad thing about HPM and you'll be hanging from the gutters.

HPM guy is one of the greatest men of the 21st century and you people don't give him the reverence he deserves
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>>128728621
other than königsberg and maybe alsace-lorraine this is basically 10/10
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>>128728826
No anon, it's perfectly healthy. Loving your hobby and loving the things that integrate it are all parts of normal, functional human beings. Defending what you love is also a part of it, though it seems you consider calling out slander as "attacking" someone, which is pretty funny

What isn't healthy is obsessing what other people like anon. To the point of attacking them and what they like, to fake shit to attack, ironically shitposting. That kind of obsessive behavior, being so bothered someone likes what you don't like, that's something you should worry about
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>>128728976
Not even that guy but this says enough.
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>>128728910
>spanish galicia
lmaoing at your life
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>>128728765
It's really not though, the only aspects Britain kept control of were foreign affairs and defence, this is the perfect example of a satellite.

And I've discussed the Cape Colony's responsible government with him, he said he would do it but it's fuck British colonisation in the region, it's the same reason Columbia doesn't get early responsible government, for the colonisation of Canada and such.
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>>128728976
hello rob
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>>128728941
>every other country,
That's a lie though, there are tons of countries why minimal to no flavor at all
Only the GPs have a sizeable amount

>>128729123
Failure to grasp sarcasm, irony or ironic shitposting is a good sign of autism
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>>128728910
t. butthurt spaniard
>>128728621
Simply beautiful
Galicians are true Portuguese brethren
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>>128729342
>>128729138
>>128728910
>>128728621
Fuck Spain desu
spanish is such a disgusting language
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>>128729229
Yeah maybe shitholes like Ecuador but my point is a country as important as Australia deserves more.
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>>128728941
I agree the region desperately needs flavour, I'd especially like to see potential for New Zealand and Fiji to join federation. I just think seeing Western Australia as its own country on the pop with 10k pops is entirely a step too far, I'm also against the Kurdish minors though so whatever.
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>>128729475
>Australia
>Important
>19th century australia
>important
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>>128729119
Like I already said, being passionate about your hobby is fine but being as obsessive as you are is slightly concerning.

>calling out slander

This is exactly the sort of stuff I'm talking about. You said before that you loved the mod, now you are backtracking by saying that you feel bound by your duty to defend the honour of the modder, as if he's incapable of defending himself.

Also
>attacking
You keep misusing that word. Criticising someone is not attacking. This further proves my point that your obsession with HPM is dangerously unhealthy. You view anything less than adoration as slander and a conspiracy to destroy the mod. Please, consider having a mental health check if you have the chance.
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>>128729475
>as important as Australia
>did literally nothing on its own in the game's timeframe
>literally
>nothing
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>>128729423
This, shit's so awful poets and musicians used Portuguese for their works instead.
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>>128728621
Uh, excuse me friend, but where's Yugoslavia?
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>>128729496
The choices are simulate it all, with Western Australia included or simulate none of it as it is currently until federation.

>>128729564
Ask yourself whether it's more important than shitty Kurdish minors.
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>>128729592
Nah, obsession is when you start caring other people like what you don't like
That someone loves something

Obsession is pretending to be someone, shitposting and stirring drama about someone you don't like

>you are backtracking by saying that you feel bound by your duty to defend the honour of the modder,
Good thing no one said anything of the sort

Seeing as you think that calling out slander is some horrible thing, and seeing as the rest of your post is nothing but a big strawman, this discussion becomes rather pointless

Now anon, please, check that obsession you have with everything HPM related
When you start making up shit to criticize people who love a mod, well, there's something fucked up with you
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>>128729771
I know, and that's why I say simulate none of it, or simulate it in a different way, the separate states are just too irrelevant on their own, especially considering how irrelevant a united Australia is in this game. Flavour is needed, more tiny substates that do nothing but get annexed by event to another country aren't.
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>>128729771
It's about as important as shitty kurdish minors rebelling against a GP

I bet kurds played a bigger role in the world than australians
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>>128730017
Kurds are playing a bigger role in the world today than Australians. The only thing Australians have done for the world is help in the First and Second Great Shitposting War
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>>128730017
t. Kiwi

>>128729949
Yeah, but Canada already has all their tags and cores so it would be a copy and paste job of Canada and it's a bit of a double standard to have it for one but not the other.
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>>128730157
That's not notable at all either, so australians did shit all to the world
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>>128728910
GALÍCIA É PORTUGAL
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