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tf2g concept edition
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>>128550996
>>128550996

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us | steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: trade.tf bazaar.tf | backpack.tf./classifieds | tf2outpost.com
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: trade.tf | backpack.tf
Scrapbanking: scrapbank.me | scrapwh.com | scrap.tf
Betting: saloon.tf

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
/tf2g/ (NA): steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>Mumble
mumble.com/mumble-download.php
/tf2g/ Mumble!
Address: mumble-de.cleanvoice.com
Port: 48816
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nth for suicide
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traps :3
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nth for smug squids
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f2p was a mistake
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>>128685869
tf2 was a mistake
-robin
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tf2g belongs to anime
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and you dont seem to understand
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Don't mind me, just posting best mercenary.
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dead game
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I dont know whether I like sniper or scout better
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>>128687057
Why pick one or the other? They're both powerful classes that piss people off. Play both.
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>>128687035
i meant to post this webum
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>>128687232
>doing things to piss others off
Grow up, KID.....
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16rd for keep posting Medics
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>>128685642
WANT TO PRACTICE ROCKET JUMPS ON THAT MAP COMING UP?

HERES HOW!

>PICK MAP IN LOCAL SERVER
>MP_TOURNAMENT 1
>SV_CHEATS 1
>HURTME -9999

HAVE FUN DOING THOSE JUMPS!
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>>128687471
>not a strange genuine archimedes
its shit
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>>128687646
My next one will be when I retire this Archimedes at 100k
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hey tf2g what're you doing now and what're you doing later
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>>128687745
oh thats nice
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>>128685805
id?
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muh artstyle
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>>128687898
id/basedviva
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>>128687869
im going to practice last hitting until my tf2gfu comes back
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>>128687869
right now i'm trying to play some lobbies
later i don't know
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>>128687869
I am watching Bridge of Spies with Tom Hanks, eating Salami Pizza and drinking cold german beer.
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>>128687927
wtf is this trash
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>>128688113
>german beer
with aida
:?
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>>128688948
>with aida
The cruise ship?
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How the hell do you use game activation keys to put games you already have in your library?

Can I use a confirmed alt account?
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>>128689261
You could raffle or sell the key
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>>128688991
Dotsy and Shuckle are Half Left Approved Waifus
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>>128689420
>Sell the key
Is there any sites that do that legit now?
I remember there used to be a middle man process and everything.

Aren't you the Mexican who /tf2g/ used to make fun of a few years back for being a brony? Or was that John Cena?
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half felts is my spirit animal
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>>128688991
dotsy has mental issues though :r
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>>128689915
name 1 with evidence

you can't
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>>128689781
he's mexican and also an ex bag boy
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>>128689969
it was talked about in the irc, sorry you werent there :t
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>>128689781
I don't know, actually. I figured you could post it on TF2OP like any copies of games. It's prolly just better off to raffle it off. Unless it's like a $50+ game

Nah, I'm that half-Mexican tf2g makes fun of for being better than them. Never was a brony, praise Christ
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>>128689915
>:r
>human got btfo by half previously
>talking shit on dotsy to try to get revenge

lmao you are the most pathetic individual in this entire general
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i think human is cute
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>>128690219
>samefagging about yourself

give it up human no one likes you, not even 26dollar
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Anime was a mistake

-gaben
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>>128685869
this game would have been dead 6 years ago if it wasn't for f2p and hats
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>>128690121
>doesn't provide evidence like I said he wouldn't be able to

;)
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i think human isn't a degenerate
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>>128690456
Who are you quoting
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human and 26dollar aren't even browsing this general anymore......
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>>128690489
no one called him a degenerate

good job making your samefag apparent human
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>>128690146
Yeah, just checked, can't add trades for items that aren't directly in your inventory.

If I add the game by product code on another account, will it automatically add Fallout 4 to the account? Or can I say to gift it or whatever?
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>>128691117
It'll automatically add it. Except can't you just enable family sharing with Fallout 4 and not have to waste the key??
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>engi that sets up nest at starting point in mvm and calls other people to shut up with smug emoticon
>we lose
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>>128691261
>try to kick a shitter with 0 tours
>screams over the mic "no don't kick please"
>12 year old voice
>repeats "please" over and over while the vote happens
>it fails
>someone says he's doing good
>we fail the next wave

mvm in theory should be easy as fuck but no one does boot camp first
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>>128690146
Game keys are a bit squirrely, mostly they get traded on steamgifts.com/trades, they have their own rep system. I'd only list something on outpost if it used the trading system to move it.

Personally I don't deal in em, not worth the hassle, not really that storable.
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>>128691557
That's why it's always best to queue with 3-4 people. You get the kick advantage and you deal with less 0 tour shitters going Pyro or Spy
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>>128691597
Alright, so Steamgifts has their own trading system for this?
Thank you.
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>>128691783
shut up viva
you always kick people for not following the meta
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>>128692005
:)
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post the anime personality types
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>>128691891
It's the only place I'd even begin to trust with game keys. Best of luck.
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i want to browse human ;3
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Shotgun pyro is so fun. It's underrated. Everyone just wants the ebin flarepunch combos
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i love my tf2gfu
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>>128693712
>tfw revolver spy
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19:47:35 * Dotsy pretends to be black
19:47:38 <Dotsy> i cannot fuck with that shit nigga
19:47:42 * Dotsy stops pretending to be black

that wasnt nice
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>>128693890
anyone else glad they aren't black?
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>hacker sniper pocketed by medic guarded by lvl 3 sentry on 2fort
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>>128694323
>playing two farts
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>>128694638
>Only arena servers are 24/7 2fort and a korean server with barely anyone on it.
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post your face when a spy main tells you there is no luck involved in a spy's success
he's not being ironic about it either
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>>128695310
>I main sniper, spy or engineer.
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>>128690321
>>128690219
no one likes any of you attention whoring tripfags. Yes it's sad you're emotionally stunted and have mental issues but hearing them 24/7 is weapons-grade cancer
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im weapons-grade
*shoots*
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With all this hate going towards human I can finally say this in peace:
pyro haters are just baddies who are mad they can't aim after being airblasted
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>>128696207
pyro is a fun class to play but people who play pyro can be extremely annoying
thank god the degreaser nerf happened
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>>128695846
why did you quote me m8?

>>128690321 (You)
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>>128695310
the whole class relies on the mistakes of others, it's mostly luck. the only classes that take less skill than spy are medic and heavy
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>>128691891
>those fat person fingers
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>>128695310
I keep a straight face because I don't have it in me to break his little heart. Are the spy mains going to go on suicide watch when MM comes out?
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>>128697612
>Know there's a spy around
>Kill one
>Turn around and there's another
>Kill him
>Turn around and there's another
>Kill him
>Get backstabbed

And because of names I know that this wasn't dead ringer fuckery, it was 4 different spies.This entire thing happened in like 5 seconds.

What the fuck.
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someone donate some money to me so I can buy lmaobox
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get better
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>>128697920
But MM is just going to be ranked pubs.
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Hang on, missing a bunnyhop slows you down??
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hot young fragger on the loose

last seen on skial hightower

if found please add me at id/sleepyzed
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Jump Maps Completed
>jump_beef
>jump_airships
>jump_academy
What are some other complete-able jump maps for a beginners. Im on c4 on jump-4starters.
It just seems like the difficulty of maps Ive been on arent able to be completed by beginners. Ive done some hard jumps. Ive done some impossible things to bypass having to do certain things on certain jumps.
I just want a map that can be done by mortals.
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>>128699110
MM isn't going to be 12v12 2fort.
It'll become quickly apparent that having a spy is a handicap, especially if they go with 6v6. Having more than one spy will be a death sentence.
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>>128700483
and thats when valve buffs spy
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>>128700113
From easy to slightly harder. All easy though.

jump_rush
jump_adventure
jump_oats
jump_eons
jump_sitood

jump_cube is similar to jump_4starters, you will probably beat the easy courses relatively easily.
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>>128699791
a bunny hop saved is a bunny hop earned
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What is the idea Demoknight loadout?
Is the Tide Turner worth giving up full crits or is the Targe better?
Which sword is now the best?
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>>128700629
jump_adventure gets pretty ridiculous and so does jump oats.
4starters is definitely not complete-able.
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>>128701271
>jump_adventure gets pretty ridiculous
What?
It's one of the easiest jump maps.
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>>128700113
just play jump_jurf and jump_heaven until you finish them. you don't need any other jump maps
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i made coffee
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>>128701271
Yeah, 4starters goes up all the way to expert level, but if you liked playing the easy courses check out cube.

Adventure has some jumps that are pretty annoying because the map is so old but they aren't that hard if you know how to do them, watch a walkthrough on youtube or something.

>>128701454
heaven is shit
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>>128701405
Theres that sync you have to do without touching the ground. And theres a pogo descent right after it Im stuck on.
>>128701454
I cant get the floating water one on jurf. But I wasnt too far off so Ill get it eventually. I used to really hate jurf though. Never been on heaven.
>>128701559
On 4starters A and B are fine. C is immediate brutality. Im stuck on c4. Cube is really fun though. Just B feels like nightmare mode.
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>>128701863
Single-rocket syncs are easy enough that you should be able to do it without too much of a problem.
The pogo descent is literally two rockets on the wall to slow yourself down, then you just continue on the ground, I wouldn't even classify it as a pogo descent since it's so short.
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>>128701863
>Im stuck on c4.

Try skipping c4 and go straight to c5 (the black/white one with the telesync at the start). I personally think c4 is the most annoying course on the map because of all the gimmicky shit jumps. The later courses are harder, but have less bullshit.
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>>128700483
>>128700605
Hopefully valve buffs all the classes to be viable in 6s.
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>>128702159
I can single rocket sync with ease. But if you tell me not to touch the ground thats a different story.
And pogo descenting is just not that easy. Ive gotten lucky a few times though.
>>128702182
I wasnt away you could skip.I normally just show people how to do A and B instead of spending an hour failing c4.
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>>128702503
Pogo descents aren't easy, but the one on adventure is literally two jumps. There's plenty of room for error.
And you can touch the ground for that sync, you just can't stay on it for long. You have to time the rocket yourself instead of being able to look up and watch it descend.

Adventure is a poor map, not because it's hard, but because it doesn't teach you anything.
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>>128702503
>I wasnt away you could skip.

Are you after the Tempus competition points or just doing the maps as a personal accomplishment? You can just walk to the start of the courses normally and start wherever.
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>>128689034
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>>128692084
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i hope some dumb normie reports this post because she's not it
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>>128703417
im in it
my tf2gfu is in it too
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>>128703035
why does adidas always display themselves as a titty monster, like theyre trans and trans ppl generally lack decent tits
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>>128701002
pls reply
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>>128703417
my tf2gfu is beautiful
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>>128703417
i am sad that my description is completely inaccurate
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>>128704271
who are you
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>>128704332
donkan
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>Get Stange Butcher Bird.
>Looks Orky as fuck.

What's the Orkiest name and description I can give this bad boy?
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>>128704847
kek
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>>128704847
I have no idea what these words mean
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>>128704847
shut the fuck up and stop wasting your money on tf2
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>>128704847
zug cannon
description: kek
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>>128704847
I don't understand what this is supposed to look like
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>>128704847
The Big WAAAGH!
disc: Ere We Go, 'Ere We Go, 'Ere We Go
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>>128703417
Where's Zigzag?
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does flip hate muslims
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>>128705145
>>128704925
Orks from 40k, they big dumb and carry huge dakka
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>>128704506
actually I changed my mind

I don't agree with my personality that video games gave me but I will keep it since I guess that's how I act here
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>>128705452
oh okay
I was thinking WoW and was very confused
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who are the most recognisable tf2gs
give me 4 or 5
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>>128705536
my tf2gfu
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>>128702806
How do you skip over c4 to do c5. I just jump because its fun. I have more fun jumping than playing pub right now.
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>>128705536
human
26dollar
videogames
my tf2gfu
me
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>>128705536
drawings and engio
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>>128705606
I think he's mistakenly referring to c4 and c5 as separate courses rather than two jumps within the same course. He's saying to just skip the entire C course and move on to the next one.
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>>128705651
who's your tf2gfu
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>>128705606
Just enter it like the other courses, not sure what you mean. You can enter all courses from the spawn room.
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>>128705769
(you)
;3
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my tf2gfu is 26dollar
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>>128705907
shit taste
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hows my taste in tf2gfus
human
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>>128705996
but i love him
:f
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>>128705815
>>128705606
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>>128705860
who am i
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>>128706415
cute desu
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>>128706121
you love someone you barely talk to and aren't in a relationship with?
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>>128706789
At this point I'm convinced human is either sick or joking
I don't care either way, it's simply peculiar
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>Get Ubered and Kritzed as a Demo in a pub
DESTRUCTION RAINS UPON THE UNHOLY
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I FEEL ALIVE!
*dies*
oohh!
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>>128707154
>Reload
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guys
what if there was a medigun that gave ammo
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>>128707153
unfortunately its the former
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calling the drawfags...
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>>128707154
>When you get the kritz
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>>128707153
>sick
i was sick for like a week before new years but im all better now
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i'm lovesick
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>>128707652
what
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*kisses u*
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>>128707884
i need pictures
pictures of the drawfags
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>>128706220
Pretty sure thats D1
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>>128708116
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so, decided to get back into TF2 after selling my CS:GO shit

I want an Australium weapon, but I'm rather indecisive considering I play pretty much every class minus Heavy, Medic and Engi

which one looks the nicest? Minigun looks nice, but of course is a Heavy weapon, so that's low on my priority list
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skillwise who are the best CURRENT tf2gs
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>>128708841
How many hours do you have in the game?

Post your profile.
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>>128708992
id/26dollar
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>>128708992
dotsy, pinto, and rotateablejack
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>>128708992
All shit, the good people left
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>>128708992
Pinto and Saturn
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>>128708992
dotsy, pinto, videogames, saturn, zz, redward, flip
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>>128708841
God Tier: Gernade Launcher, Stickybomb Launcher, Rocket Launcher, Minigun, Medigun

High Tier: Scattergun, Wrench, Sniper Rifle, Black Box, Tomislav

Low Tier: Force-a-Nature, Frontier Justice, Blutsauger, SMG, Ambassador (on a meme class but it's still a nice-looking gun)

Throw it in the Trash Tier: Flamethrower, Axtingiusher, Knife

Le Fanny Arab Man Meme Tier: Eyelander
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>>128708992
it's hard because a lot of it is opinion and fanboying
by division zz pinto and saturn are the best 3 i can name right now
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>>128709018
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Gigadweeb

a fair few

>>128709298
thanks senpai

desu I'm liking the blutsauger, but medic, also a pretty trash weapon to me
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>>128709298
>Rocket Launcher in God Tier
Nah nigga, it's not that good. RL is High Tier at best.
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>>128709642
Tip: Store critical hits with F10
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>>128709642
"I'm a cheap shit so I didn't buy a strange version instead"
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>>128709642
mortshort B(
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>>128703417
i dont recognize Hakase, Orekko and imouto C-Type
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>>128709642
add id/26dollar for FURRY erp
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>>128709642
i KILL you dude
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>>128709642
SMUG ANIME GIRL.JPG
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>>128709642
ArMitage Shanks, TOILET TOILET
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>>128709642
>>128709810
renard, omobomobobo(?), sol
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stay safe /tf2g/
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https://youtu.be/GlT13df-w34?t=50s

I'm fucking crying
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>>128709642
420 blaze it up
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>>128709642
You have to go back
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>>128709642
the niger KILL
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>>128710082
*rolls eyes and deletes post*

nothing peronsonel kid...

>>128710102
i havent ever seen LOST so no
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>>128710168
"You have to go back" has nothing to do with LOST.
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>>128710082
Not happening, next 6 gets it.
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>>128710325
420 BLAZE IT
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>>128710074
congrats you got me to click your shitty video
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>>128710325
You have to go back.
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make me great again
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*builds a wall*
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>>128710325
wasnt my post dont bother rolling
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>>128710325
420 blaze it up
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>>128710168
I dont think you understand how this works
r/namemytf2item might be more your speed
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>>128710606
Well >>128710325
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>>128710816
shitskins are the worst
why do we allow them to be considered human again?
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>>128710325
420 blz it
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>>128710945
White guilt.

Even though every race has committed awful atrocities, especially the asians.

Not the Tasmanian aboriginals though. They couldn't even create FIRE when the white man was launching massive contraptions into the sky by exploding old dinosaur remains.
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>>128710945
racists are the worst
why do we allow them to roam free again?
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>>128710945
>>128711178
Get out, /pol/
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>>128711178
non whites have statistically been a drag on civilization. look at >>128711148
name me 1 (one) benefit they have given to modern day society
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how does the Australium Scattergun look in-game? It's got a pretty hefty price, but I like Scout.
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>>128711272
Asians did a few useful things.
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>>128711178
Tasmanian Aboriginal: Was unable to start a fire in the mid 1800s
Modern European: Created aviation 50 years later and sent man into space just over 50 years after that

But these are the exact same and anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
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>>128711371
one of the only ones to look like it's actually gold and not gold plated
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>>128711272
Not much. Probably because they've been oppressed for all of modern society.
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>tfw you did shit in pub

this is terrible
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>>128711719
or maybe they just have the brain capacity of a subhuman
again, look at >>128711584
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>>128711689
So, would you says it's worth the extremely hefty price tag, if I've got $200 (+ some unsold items which should come up to an extra $20) on Steam to spare? I'm still debating whether to grab an Australium Minigun, because that shit's so cash.

Planning to put parts on both if I do get them.
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>>128711925
Nice cherrypicking.
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>>128711925
>white supremacist trying to spread their toxic opinions
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>>128712268
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/
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>>128712435
Is there a more clear sign that someone has given up in an argument?
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>>128712094
Why do Asians do so well in the modern world then?

Why are tribes that have been untouched by the rest of humanity for all their existence still less advanced than Europeans in the bronze age?

How did Europeans even oppress the ENTIRE WORLD if everyone was equal? The number's would be very heavily in the favor of non-Europeans, so how could they oppress everyone?
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>>128712540
And "You're just trying to spread your toxic opinions" is an argument?

it isn't
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>>128712594
>Why do Asians do so well in the modern world then?
Literally just Japan.
If you look at the other Asian countries, they're pieces of shit that should never be visited.
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>>128712594
Because tribes living in the fucking jungle have a lot to worry about in regards to survival. They don't have time to paint bullshit or throw themselves off cliffs until one of their devices lets them fly. They gotta worry about finding food and fighting hyenas n shit. Of course Europeans were so advanced. They had fuck all to do. That's one thing racists seem to ignore. Not all cultures arose in the same situations. And equality isn't about how all humans are perfectly equal and perfect, cus they're not. Its about how everyone deserves to not be living in bullshit environments anymore.
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>>128713064
Actually Vietnam has come pretty far in the last 10 years and if you give it another 50 or 100 it could be very similar to Japan.

China isn't going anywhere unless they cast away communism though.

>>128713252
Right and I'm sure living in the FROZEN NORTH was a paradise of food! People didn't have to, say, spend hours a day making sure they had usable firewood so the winter wouldn't kill them!

Stop spewing stupid bullshit.
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>>128713252
>europe
>frozen wasteland
>wildlife includes some birds
>water undrinkable, people evolved to drink cow's milk
>invented modern society as we know it

>africa
>tons of fertile soil
>domesticated animals roaming freely
>ground is filled with precious gems
>literal 10,000 year head start on society
>invented stick
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>>128713835
>draw girl
>call it a boy
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>>128711986
no
you can get a decent looking skin and it functions the same for cheaper
im kinda the wrong person to ask because I owned a couple and they don't really change the game other than 'focus this guy'
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shitskin lovers
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
U
T
we have the entire irc backing us up
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/
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>>128713667
>>128713839
>all this assblassted denial
Its like you've never actually been to Europe.
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>>128713992
oh, fair enough

any decent looking skins that come in strange then?
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>>128714005
not the entire irc because im often in the irc and i dont agree
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>>128713835
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>>128714010
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Quality video game discussions
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>>128713835

>>128713958
this
why the fuck would you like boys if they just look like girls
men > girls >>>>> traps or whatever
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>>128714070
What? Did you go to vacation in Italy during the summer?

People die from the cold Winters in Europe STILL. There are people that spend HOURS a day chopping and preparing firewood so their wood stove can keep them warm throughout the winter TODAY.

But no I'm sure I'm just "in denial".
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>>128714247
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>>128714421
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>>128714403
The benises probably
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>>128714403
fujoshit opinions not welcome
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>>128714419
>I'm sure I'm just "in denial"
Glad to see you feel that way. The first step in improving yourself is admitting you have a problem.
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hey guys

it's me

gasol
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>>128709076
>rotateablejack
you are sorely mistaken

unless everybody good left i havent been here much
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>>128713835

>>128714627
Yeah.
benis > vagoo
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>>128714647
I'm glad that everyone in Europe that is killed by this years winter didn't really die then.

Oh wait unlike you I can't just ignore reality when it suits my arguement
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>x10, orange, 100% crits, low gravity, insta respawn
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>>128714836
I dunno, you're doing a good job of ignoring the fact that Europe is more than the frostbitten sections. But that's a cherrypicker for you.
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>>128714872
Go sniper and body shot

Go demo and sticky spam

Go scout and just scout
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boyish boys > girly girls > boyish girls > girly boys

just thought you should know
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>>128714081
night terror is honestly the only good skin
and it's still shit
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>>128715056
So what? Was Europe a happy little place where everyone worked together and the people from the lower areas helped out those from the Scandinavian north?

If your theory was correct then countries like Bulgaria, Hungary, and Turkey should have been doing better than countries like England, Sweden, and Finland. A LOT better.

You know there were plains regions in the world located in places other than Southern Europe right? Why didn't they become advanced and stop Europeans from oppressing them? Why didn't Southern Europeans oppress Northern Europeans?

You see how your argument makes no fucking sense?
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>>128715562
I like you. You're a pal.

>>128714872
>these are the only community servers left
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what would shuckles tf2g persona look like
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why are pyro mains with Anime Avatars the most autistic cancerous Salt filled lads in tf2? Anyone have any explanation?
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>>128715643
Dude, do whatever you need to do to justify your racism. If you really think that chopping down some wood is harder than disease, feral animals, overheating, and scarce food, feel free to delude yourself even more.
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Strange Kritzkrieg worth getting now if I plan on getting all (non-reskin) stranges, or just save it for when I have more than $60?
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