Non-binary edition
>Latest NA Patch Notes
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/patch-notes
>Class balance patch notes
https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/home
>KTERA Updates
http://tera.nexon.com/events/2016/teaser/Welcome.aspx
https://espeitr.wordpress.com/2015/12/02/ktera-03-12-2015-patch-notes/
https://espeitr.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/ktera-19-11-2015-patch-notes/
>Commonly Asked Questions, Class/Server Information
http://pastebin.com/tG0srFUB (embed)
>Useful/Misc Links, Modding Info, loadse mods, use at your own risk due to most being outdated
http://pastebin.com/fuGuFWWZ (embed)
http://pastebin.com/RSiBHKeP (embed)
>Free, open sourced DPS Meter, CasualMeter, ty based crackers for fighting for our freedumbs
http://forum.teratoday.com/topic/1307-casualmeter-open-source-tera-dps-meter/
>4chan guilds
http://pastebin.com/ehE71FUg (embed)
>Endgame Guides/Info
https://sites.google.com/site/yoshasstuff/forsakenislandguide
>How do I play 'class'? (incomplete, no plans to finish, somewhat outdated now)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzpfNG37wb-mBR0DDKWfzgIhTS4yN8p7z
Elin album: http://imgur.com/a/PdM3t
Previous thread: >>127801636
first for zerkers are shit
Do you approve of the color, Anon?
>>127914364
Try going a bit lighter
>>127914195
I wish I could play with you <3
x for a certain reaper's fat, jiggly thighs
>>127914184
Looks great!
>>127914242
I feel like I've been posting a lot lately, don't wanna annoy anyone.Marjssa, CH, lvl43
>>127914459
I wish I could play
>>127914195
(embed)
binary pls ;_;
How are you doing?
>>127914609
I don't think you've been posting that much
Hello fellow anons. I'm looking for a new MMO to play right now, and my current options are Tera, FF14, Wildstar. What makes Tera better than the other two in your opinions, and why should I play it instead?
>>127914354
i agree
now give us more buffs
>>127914725
TERA is free and the combat is nice and interesting.
>>127914447
I think if I go much lighter than this it will start looking weird
>>127914725
tera's combat >>>>>> every other mmo
>>127914642
Not like I'm playing either.
>>127914874
That's true, well, it looks nice eitherway
>>127914725
Combat is top tier for melee classes, tons of RP if you're into that, it's not p2w
Try it and see if you like it.
I'm going to play with Binary!
>>127914725
I quit playing Wildstar by the time I hit level 15 so my opinion on it is a bit biased, I'll let someone else explain that part.
As for FFXIV, if you like roleplay and ERP it might have a larger community for it, it also has more content and generally a lot of things to do more frequently. It is buy to play/subscription though, and to me the combat feels REALLY slow and boring.
Tera is free, it has a really beautiful open world, unique races (everyone plays Elin anyway, but Tera still has good races), and most importantly it has AMAZING combat. No MMO really does combat as well as Tera does, unless you count Vindictus which might be the only thing that gives it a run for its money, but vindictus is old and ded.
>>127914670
I'm going to spank Nyurei's butt with a carrot!
>>127914725
tera is free while ff14 is not and wildstar is free, but not really because of all the restrictions
wildstar and ff14 have boring combat, tera does not
if you can spend money, go to ff14 if you don't really care about the type of combat you're getting. wildstar is just meh all around.
>>127914670
That's a relief. See you all online in an hour or less!
>>127914670
I need to update my puush for thread making again
I'm good, other than the internet, what about you anon?
>>127915126
If only
>>127915126
What if we put Binary-san and FJ-chan together and just leave them in a party. What would happen?
>>127915343
I just woke up, but things are going okay I guess
>>127914725
Tera is free with good combat
FF14 is boring as fuck
I haven't played Wildstar that much, but from the small amounts that I played, and what I've heard.It's shit.
>>127915465
I'm not even sure how to answer this
>>127915521
good morning!
>>127915521
Did you sleep well?
>>127915465
That would be interesting but are they both on the same server?
>>127915560
>>127915958
Find them both and put them together let's watch then!
>>127916115
>>127915958
I'm not sure of exactly what you are expecting
>>127916287
Idk about >>127916115 but I think it would be interesting to see what you two talk about.
>>127916287
I'm expecting two pure people to sit and talk and forget about their worries.
>>127917146
>Pure people
That does not exist anon, it's against human nature.
Level 58 Lancer here wanting to finally hit max level. Was looking for some sort of guide or list of boss attacks that are unblockable, anyone have anything? Thanks!
>>127917415
fuck off
>>127916684
>>127917146
I'm not sure what we would talk about either
How did FJ become so famous around here?
>>127917415
There isn't anything. Don't worry about bosses until 65. Then join a guild if you haven't, and learn things instance by instance. What the fuck is with all the new lancers?
>>127915835
Good morning, thanks!
>>127915884
It was okay, I never sleep well at these times
>>127917405
that may be true. But there is people that hide their slutness very well.
>>127917706
Good question. He is someones alt or something I'm not completely sure I don't talk to him.
Thank you for the replies everyone. I think I might indeed give TERA a try.
>>127914846
>>127914961
>>127915010
Good point on it being free and the combat being good. Nice to hear it's not too much p2w.
>>127915130
>>127915173
>>127915524
I also heard that wildstar is pretty shitty and grindy and tailored toward endgame raiders.
>>127917953
Sleep on my lap and you will sleep well!
>>127917953
maybe you should sleep with me~
>>127917953
Maybe you should change your sleeping schedule a bit then anon,or use my lap as a pillow~
>>127918151
combat is overhyped people like to act like its more than what it is simply because its a step above WoW and its a convenient excuse for why we idle all day pretending to be little girls. In actuality combat is your standard MMO fare, but you have to look in the general direction of your target and press dodge/block when the enemies eyes glow red.
>>127918164
>>127918662
>>127918889
So many offers! I can't really change my sleep schedule though, its due to work. It would be nice to sleep better though when I do have to stay up so late.
Someone post FJ's butt
>>127919516
Well, that's a pity anon, I hope you can sleep better when you do!
>>127919797
I was also happy when I learned how to look at my own nose.
>>127919797
why is that hat floating
>>127919797
Cute costume 10/10
>>127919797
"uhhhh duuuh... im retarded... i eat my own shit... cause im retarded... buuuhhh IM SO RETARDED I EAT MY OWN SHIT duuuuuuuuuuuhuhuhuhuh"
>>127920470
Anon, I'm afraid you have an extra chromosome
Is there anyway to dismantle a stack of weapon shards into feedstock? They can't have overlooked this.
>main mystic
>getting huge boner over the latest ktera patch notes
>ball tossing is now real
Shitty servers inspired mote throwing.
How do people afford such cute cosmetics for their Elins?
>>127922008
sucking fat elin cocks
>>127922008
I abused this event, that's how I got my gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnT4gMHAqUo
So now that I'm in lumbertown what's the quickest way to gargle some cock?
>>127922703
Look for any Forbidden or Ayakashi people at the house where you learn magic skills.
Do I need different accs for Eu and NA?
>>127923249
yes
>>127923306
I only have an EU account, EU is kill right?
>>127923416
also yes
>>127923579
I'll make an NA one then. Also, a few weeks ago I saw a thread on /v/ about a new elin class was being added but I can't find anything on google. was I rused?
>>127923830
No it's real. So far we just call it ninja because we don't know what it is, looks like some melee hybrid cloth
>>127923830
it's not even out in ktera yet so expect at least 8 months for them to come to na
>>127922886
All I see is autism.
>>127924393
Bingo.
You found it.
>>127923913
>>127923946
Except I posted the same dam video on multiple threads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hAYguhgpno watch this video on the new class. And for some of us testing it it is called Shinobi not ninja
>>127924709
fuck off
>>127924787
Are you the same person that told us what the class and armor style and all that was last month?
>>127924973
Yes that was me, but no one here listened and just called it spam without proof. I can't stream it or show images just yet but people don't care.
How would you rank the tank classes?
Brawler is obviously on top but I'm curious how Lancer/Warr/Zerk stand
I've wanted to make a character on CH before, but I've never really rp'd and I'm nervous. Is CH fine for an rp newbie, would it be fine to make a character and lurk around for a bit? Or would I be better off just not doing it?
>>127925391
lancer is currently still good for tanking but outclassed by brawler almost entirely
warrior is outclassed by lancer and brawler for tanking
zerk is dead last for tanking and pretty bad in general at the moment, not horrible but I definitely wouldn't want a zerk tank.
>>127925571
yes
>>127925571
You don't really need to RP to go on CH anon
>>127925391
They can all hold aggro. Brawler does ridiculous damage. Lancer has the best buffs. Warrior has less support. Zerk has less less support.
>>127925839
zerk tanking was pretty much BHS putting a quick bandaid on the lack of tanks we were having some months ago. Dunno how they fare in dps compared to other classes but id still rather have them dpsing than tanking.
Trade me for something
this game is boring as fuck
Need a guild with no drama? Just want to do content on MT? Are you an Elin?
Then join us!
>>127929356
>no drama
>elin only guild
lmao
Need a guild with :D? Just want to ^_^ on MT? Are you an :3?
Then join >>127929356
>>127929440
>>127929546
Just offering for people that just want to do content and not be told no
>>127929356
> join meme guild
> see 5 people
> they're doing content in their static
> back to idling
>>127927728
>>127929356
what does a green name mean
I'm going to kill Nyan Nyan!
>>127925571
theres no rp on ch
just cyber sex and autists who dont know how to have an actual conversation
>>127930064
I'm fine with cyber sex.
>>127930234
whats it like being 14
>>127930345
Sexually frustrating.
>>127930420
you'll do well on CH, don't worry. everyone loves a cock-gargling elin slave.
>>127929356
You sound like a MT version of loli elin muffin to be honest. Would not join.
>>127930882
Not sure who that is.
>>127925679
Oh, alright!
>>127930064
I don't know how to have a conversation so I guess I'll fit right in. I expected the cyber sex though.
so why do you still play this game, terag
>>127932039
big tits
>>127932039
To bury my face on tits like yours
>>127932039
Fapping
>>127932039
when i get high a mindless grinding game like tera is great to play while i listen to music and its also fun to go through the more alien/beautiful environments and look at a cute anime girl even tho im not really into anime when sober but id never say tera is a particularly good game and i dont even bother with a character once it gets 65
>>127932735
> even tho im not really into anime when sober
Made me giggle for some reason
>>127932096
>>127932135
>>127932236
can be found elsewhere other than tera
>>127932735
should play maplestory then, grinding is more 'fun' in that game at least
>>127932039
I joined a nice guild and made friends and enjoy talking to them.
I mostly play it to socialize. If I wanted good gameplay I'd play something else.
Dork why did you kill Samidare?
>>127933456
Tell me what other vidya has sexy latina semen demons
>>127933456
>can be found elsewhere other than tera
Not really.
Despite coming up on it's fourth year, TERA still has the best looking character models of any MMO out there. Add that with ERP being as easy to find as walking into a convenience store and picking up a bag of chips, as well as how blatantly oversexualized the entire game is, and fap fuel is honestly one of the better reasons to keep playing this game.
>>127933857
I guess let me rephrase, for the people who actually do content in the game, what keeps you guys from not quitting and continuing to do content? (TL Note: ERP isn't content, you aren't 'playing' the game technically as much as using it for a chatroom for erp [like I do].)
>>127933578
they was in my spot
>everyone standing around in groups of 2
well I wonder what's going on right now
>>127933585
every other gook MMO
>>127933857
>tera
>best looking character
>when BnS and BDO are right around the corner
>>127934218
>BnS
>those proportions
>good
Nah
>>127934176
Well you may as well kill all of us here then.
>>127934216
>slut is jealous all the dicks are taken
>>127934218
Why would I drop a gook MMO for another gook MMO
>>127934279
except you can literally modify the proportions of your entire body.
>>127934364
i don't see the rest of you
>>127934218
B&S characters look to have about the same amount of polys as TERA characters, so the only real difference is in the highly stylized look of the game. Some people like it more, some people like it less. I'm personally of the latter opinion, but I'll be fapping happy in both games regardless.
BDO isn't out yet and doesn't have any loli race. That'll probably be a big detriment to a lot of people here.
>>127934072
My guild
Big red numbers
Delicious scythe sound effect when i crit
A few hype soundtracks when fighting bosses
Dodging shit
Trying to get a better dps vs brawlers and reapers as a warrior
>>127934484
Go near Samidare
>>127934906
post location
>>127935192
Nope.
>>127935192
>>127935516
post sweetfx
>>127935516
how do i get there i wanna kill some people
>>127935516
i'll take your bitch ass no damage zerk on any day
>>127935823
http://pastebin.com/3Y5w3XFk
>>127935879
from the 30mobs spot somewhere
>>127936025
come fight me bitchboy
>>127935516
Damn it's a good thing I didn't jump down near you just a bit ago lol
>>127936086
went to 30 mobs dunno where to go from there
>>127935516
teach me how to zerker, dork!
>>127934216
You can have mine!
>>127937087
have your what?
Dork I just missed you
>>127936717
i can show you i guess, invite me to party
>>127936768
just full charge your skills
>>127934216
;_;
>>127937547
poor serinade
>>127929356
i wish you were Postless.
>>127937164
Everything!
>>127937415
i need a more in depth guide than just that
>>127937837
Painwheel here, what do you want to know?
who even finds these spots
>>127939007
you're not a pve nerd though
>>127939009
Who even plays OW games
>>127939280
if by ow you overworld, its fun to explore
>>127939351
It was rhetorical
>>127939472
i answered it anyways
>>127933857
tera has a terrible character creator
everyone has sameface because 14/16 faces are fucking abominations
>>127933857
maybe its just me going outside once a week but i find it fucking bizarre that you retards actually rate a games quality based on erp
>>127939087
the best learning experience is to run more dungeons
>>127940172
>173 times
what the fuck
>>127937614
No problem won't post anymore.
>>127940172
how do you use esmash?
>>127940172
Was the FINM just to get seals for a static
>>127940172
I'm the pro-est of the pro.
I want an elin maid to service me and obey my every command !
>>127940957
i love exclamation point!
>>127940508
Save for when I need it and use it off CD after a boss's 'must evade' attacks like fear/aoe spin in FI's first boss or the thunderclap/ghost laser beams on the second boss
>>127940525
I didn't run just with my 'static', I ran with whoever asked me to
>>127941040
run with me!
>>127941040
dork, you originated on CH right? did you erp since you know people in MS like jesari?
>>127941091
Sure get a group together and I'll show you some sick zerker dps
>>127941552
I'm from LoT TFT and moved with the guild when free transfers were open
>>127941813
how do you know the mahous then
>>127941918
I have a character in MS and played in CH for about a month or two? I forget. Is there anything wrong with having friends across servers?
>>127942207
no I just wanted to know if you erp'd
>>127941040
is it better dps to 5 oc cyclone or a 5 oc cyclone esmash?
>>127917702
>>127924805
fuck off
>>127941813
Who were your favorite members of LoT TFT?
>>127942402
im going to thunderstrike dorks' elins asshole with my cock
>>127942402
Dont cyclone have one more tick of OC which make ES stronger. TS is more mobile if you want to position before ES though
>>127942332
no
>>127942402
this>>127941040
depends how you use esmash, but i'd say cyclone would deal more if your esmash doesn't crit
>>127942667
Aikawa & Homu :3
lets getspooky
>>127943119
who's your favorite gf member
>>127943119
can i see your glyphs?
POST PVP SLAYER GLYPHS
>>127943991
we are all ride or die
>>127944203
sure
>>127944649
>slayer
>pvp
>>127944665
are you an asian living in toronto
>>127945326
I live in hamburgerland
>>127945612
are you an asian living in california
>>127945035
POST GLYPHS
>>127945727
hes white lol
>>127944665
thank you
>>127945727
I live somewhere in the east coast
So if I make a reaper and want to farm ghillieglade do I need to be level 65? And do I just go straight to the boss?
>>127948435
Yes and yes
>>127932039
i dont
>>127948541
Well dam I was hoping I could jump in at 60 oh well. Thanks
http://steamcommunity.com/id/aiurily
add me for drunk erp btw i love you seri!!
>>127914725
Don't waste your time on any of them, all are awful.
ARE YOU GUYS HYPED FOR THE NINJA?
>>127953102it was on page 10just let this thread die so better games can have generals
>>127953196
G
E
T
HYPED
K
I
D
>>127953520
That's it you little shit stain. Come to Kanstria to get smashed.
>>127953676
>implying I have time for some literal who
>>127953102
>>127953196
>>127953889
>>127953967
First I'd like to talk about people I did hurt. Jesari, I'm sorry yet again for saying rude things to you in the general after you race changed to human. I don't know what had gotten to me, but I felt unsafe, I felt confused. I wanted you back as an Elin. I made a warrior Elin exactly as a copy of your old look and I was mocking you and calling you names. I blew this whole thing way out of proportion. I still feel guilty after recently realizing that I could've hurt your feelings and I regret it all. I hope you can forgive me and don't remember me as someone bad. I know we talked about this on Steam already, but I wanted to get this out of my system again.
>>127954219
>Jesari
>after you race changed to human
what a sell out wow like literally why would you do this jesari I thought you were different
>>127954219
by the way, who is this who speaking?
I'm going to save a Jiggy
I'm going to save myself
>>127954675
Im a fuckin legend kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRRIjOkzHPM
>>127954938
That video is perfect, is that old man Walrus playing Tera?
Did this general have any other good memes than that?
>>127955178
elinure STOP posting or im going to post our erp logs where i cream filled your asshole
>>127955395
Do it bitch!
>>127955395
no you won't lol i'm better than you.
i'm a legend.
who the fuck is elinure
>>127956002
The strongest slayer in NA.
>>127956046
you spelled Lacari wrong, unlike Elinure, he was actually good.
>>127956046
If they are the strongest could I get a couple tips. I can't seem to kill 1 vs 4 I always seem to get beat by the last guy usually.
elinure, more like elinerd!
>>127956002
the cutest elin na
>>127956157
The only time I pvp'd that guy I 2v1'd him and that Aman literal who slayer that followed him everywhereon the road in Fraywind Legends Only. I totally destroyed them.
Really bad players desu.
>>127956297
you kill 2 then run away to build up your courage then kill the other 2
>>127956297
if you cant even 1v4 as a slayer you should probably change class
>>127957021
I figured something like that but brawler, reaper, mystic and sorc I went for the mystic first and then the sorc. I kited and killed the reaper but then everything went to shit.
>>127957028
It's not easy when you get perma stunned
>>127957256
I would say don't get stunned but reapers are gay so just run away and swear vengeance, always do that when you see a reaper no exceptions because even shit ones take too long to kill - it's just not worth it. This works for me and I'm the best NA so.
If there's no reaper you just hit spacebar and they will all die from your skill.
But what are Brawlers like? Maybe my information is outdated.
>>127957581
So far the decent pvp brawlers are to the point where you deal 0 dmg but your hp drops from 100% to below 20% in their combo and then you basically try defend or run just to get murdered. And then there is shit brawlers that drop you below 50%
>>127957581
They can block while attack and hold you mid air so you can't do anything.
>>127957809
So it's like a boxing type that blocks skills and has a lot of stuns?
Is it a cool class outside of the presumed 1v1 prowess? I made one but didn't feel like leveling it.
>>127957975
swear vengeance at this one too
jesus christ how old is that screenshot for red hair I don't even remember when i still had red hair
>>127958057
How would you fix Slayer Elinure?
>>127958532
reduce mana cost
>>127944665
why are you glyphing Cyclone overcharge damage?
>>127958532
Delete it and make a relevant class
http://web.archive.org/web/20150610122409/http://a.pomf.se/tgfbpw.webm
>>127958532
Give them a skill to turn invisible and immune to damage until they want to 1v1 some more or for like 20 seconds or whatever. Call it disengage or something like that.
3 minute cooldown or so so it's not OP in 1v1.
Slayer has always been the best at charging into or behind a group and killing/stunning/kd'ing everyone but they can't do that anymore because of the new classes and their gay stuns. This skill would make them perfect again because you could just be like nope when your cooldowns run out and wait until your shitter teammates catch up with you, then kill them.
does that make sense?
>>127958908
use the mana crystal
>>127959180
not him, but why wouldn't you?
>>127959436
because its 5 points in to a glyph that overall gives you 2% more damage on cyclone which is a skill you shouldnt use to begin with. The overcharge damage doesnt even transfer over to ES, so its a waste of 5 points
>>127958908
>>127959239
>use the mana crystal
actually apparently you may have meant in PVE? Or do you mean PVP?
>>127959180
>>127959575
What else would you get instead?
The overcharge cyclone glyph is bad but it isn't as bad as the 25% damage on vamp strike.
Also, you shouldn't be using cyclone just for the sake of using ES, cyclone itself does a lot of damage.
If you metered your own DPS and looked at the breakdown of the skills, cyclone should be your second most total damaging skill
>asking the worst spacebar slayer in tera for advice
jesus christ terag what the fuck happened?
>>127960271
Because it's fun seeing what ideas people come up with.
>>127960203
are you nabutso? does he play still?
>>127960271
I'm not a spacebar slayer I'm just kidding around. And I am definitely the best slayer ever.
>>127959575
>cyclone which is a skill you shouldnt use to begin with
stop saying this
what are you going to do when unbreakable is down and your evasive is on cd cause you used it for damage when fi 2nd boss has 10 lasers coming at you?
>>127960271
Wootle is the best Berzerker NA
>>127960532
hahaha
>>127960669
istance zerker was a fucking mistake for pvp.
>>127960362
How do you think slayer will be saved? The upcoming buffs are alright.
>>127960820
I haven't played since they did that.
>>127960669
the gear carried fgt won i guess
>>127960203
im not sure what your gear is, but a standard pve zerker will have +17 attack speed. I would honestly take it away from cyclone and put it on cast speed raze if anything. Sure cyclone deals damage, but its not a priority skill when you compare it to TS and ES
>>127960392
you learn mechanics and figure out that the lasers is on a cd and move away slightly when you know its about to come up. Worst case scenario you have to lethal strike to a safe distance, or maybe eat one laser. Its not a hard fight for berserkers, theres just not a single one out there that take the time to read boss mechanics and figure out ways to avoid taking damage without relying on an iframe or blocking
TL:DR git gud
on topic of esmash vs cyclone
in some dungeons its okay to spam esmash but in the newer dungeons, especially FI, not having esmash up and taking unnecessary damage at the risk of even dying is dumb, so just use cyclone, not a bad skill http://teratoday.com/glyphcalc#be65:c3:d23:e3456:f3:g0:i04:s0:u1:v2:A1 glyphs i use because no point in using flatten in pve, besides -maybe- raze--> flatten but not really worth
>>127961043
raze for DAYS
>>127961246
ops forgot to change link, was wrong page http://teratoday.com/glyphcalc#be65:c34:e3456:h0:n0:p2:s0:u01:v0
>>127961062
>blue weapon and idoneal
he had full vm, wootle just is really bad
>>127961184
I'm out of touch but I know that, as always, it depends on the fight. If you're attacking a dummy or whatever WW will out dps ES by a significant margin but sometimes you need to spam ES just to keep yourself at the back of a boss, in which case it's better.
Are brawlers OK? The sticky is too old and doesn't mention them in the short overview thing
>>127959575
>The overcharge damage doesnt even transfer over to ES, so its a waste of 5 points
i just tested this and you are wrong
>>127959239
>use the RNG crystal
>>127961506
post results for me then
>>127961519
No the other one. Don't use any mp crystals in PVE though that's retarded.
>>127961552
not the other guy but you are dumb, its been known for awhile now that the extra oc damage on cyclone has transfered to esmash but its not much more damage
>>127961552
gave about a 5.5% increase in damage
i tested it on kumas
go try it yourself
>>127961043
The buffs are nice but slayer is still going to be potato tier. It won't be so bad for equalized pvp but outside of that everyone stacks crit resist so rip that. It also doesn't solve how easy slayer is to punish compared to most classes and other classes can still do what slayer does but better. For PVE slayer will be way better.
>>127961184
Why would aspd matter if you can just block cancel raze? (for pve) like I said earlier, cyclone would definitely be your second most damaging skill.
Yes I know ES deals the -most- damage but the CD is like 10 seconds long where as cyclone is only 5 seconds.
So you're telling me one ES is going to deal more damage than two fully OCed cyclones?
>>127961886
How is not-eq pvp these days? I don't think I'll ever not miss Fraywind.
How are slayers easy to punish and like I said earlier slayer will always be the best at pushing.
I forgot about PVE. Those buffs will be insane there.
>>127961968
no, im not saying 1 ES would deal more damage than 2 OC cyclone. 1 ES would do more damage than 1 fully OC cyclone however. Cyclone is not a high priority skill since you would normally do ES - raze - TS, which alone would do more than 2 OC cyclone
>>127962586
actually you would do TS first so you could TS after the esmash
>>127962201
Dominated by either new classes or over buffed classes. Reaper is still god, brawler is doing crazy deeps and gunner has recall. Fraywind is dead outside of sync groups, crusade has killed it. Group 3s is nothing but brawler/reaper (top 10 is filled with nothing but brawler/reaper/priest). Alliance isn't doing too bad but will never be at the level it was at when it first started. Owpvp is just ganking groups doing 30 mobs vanguard repeatable. Also I find slayer pretty easy to punish compared to every other class. They really need to change tenacities stupid wind up cast. Even more so when reapers have insta-cast counter.
