Higekiri and Hizamaru event and crafting event currently going
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Last thread >>127015202
Reminder that we're not dead because we have nothing to discuss, but because there aren't enough people that are bumping the thread.
>mfw I thought we going to stay dead again
When was the last time the thread reached 750?
/sword/ should just die already.
Which swords are you still missing? I still need Nihongou to complete my collection and the current campaign is not helping me get him.
>>127643242
If noone is bumping the thread while half the people are asleep, it'll obviously die.
There's definitely enough to discuss with the anniversary coming up and the event.
>>127644691
Monoyoshi, Urashima, and Hizamaru.
I don't know when I'll have another chance to gain a Monoyoshi, if ever, but at least I can get Urashima and Hizamaru from the event.
>>127644691
Only Higekiri.
>>127644691
Just Hizamaru, but my rate of otoshidama collecting is shameful, so who knows when I'll get him.
>>127644691
Just Kogi and Hizamaru. I should have the latter soon enough at least.
>>127644691
Kogi is the only one left.
>>127603163
Different rarities when ranking up might be related to their several namestheir toku ni and toku san lines hint that
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Finally got around to watching the KanColle anime.
Chances are high that a Tourabu anime would definitely be better. We don't have any generic swords that would work as MCs (except maybe a shota, but that's very unlikely), and we have the swords history to be used as drama instead of
>training
>swords dying and transforming into enemies
>saniwa disappearing
Let's just hope the focus on different groups of swords. The KanColle anime seemed to only really feature a small group of the girls (haven't played the game so I'm not too sure on that).
Loli episode was best episode by far. The brown twintail Wahahai ship is best girl.
![CYArCyJUoAIhsfd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UKia3Pt.jpg "CYArCyJUoAIhsfd[1].jpg")
>>127650029
>We don't have any generic swords that would work as MCs
They might just pick any of the starter swords to be the MC. Kashuu or Yamanbagiri might be their pick, depends on who is more popularor they might just make it a Shinsengumi-centric series
91/91/89/91
>>127644691
Monoyoshi, Hizamaru, Urashima, Nagasone and Jiji.
I'm slowly getting close to Hizamaru and I'm trying to craft Kotetsu brothers right now.
bump
>>127644691
Hakata, Gotou, Monoyoshi, Nagasone.
Hizamaru I don't have yet but should be able to get him before event ends.
Missed out on Monoyoshi and Gotou because ofKanColle. Hopefully they'll get added as drops again one day.
>depleted half my resources
>still no Akashi after ~200 tries
>>127656310
What recipe di you used?
I really need Inuyasha.
>>127644691
Kogitsunemaru and the new twins.
>>127644691
Jiji, Kogi, Monoyoshi, Higekiri and Hizamaru.
;_;
>>127656310
I got Akashi on my second try but I've been doing crazy smithing sprees since may and still no Kogi and Old man. I just wasted my luck.
>>127656882
35/51/35/51
35/51/35/35
91/91/89/91
>>127437246
> at least two
Who's the other one?
>>127650029
> Chances are high that a Tourabu anime would definitely be better.
Did you actually watch the cartoon? "Definitely better" isn't much to say when comparing to Kancolle.
>>127658765
>forgetting about the cutest girl
>>127644691
Only Hizamaru, but I'm pretty close to getting him
>>127659360
> could trick you
Ziroamongthe best, but neither does he look like a girl nor is he supposed to.
>>127659978
Just the default sprite might fool someone.
Though I'm not the one that originally posted that, who knows if he meant someone else.
>>127650029
It'll be either cute swords doing sword things, full blown melodrama because of the sword stories or otome route.
>>127662601
>otome route
Please no
>>127662601
I think Otome is very unlikely, especially since they've done the best to completely hide the saniwa ingame.
My bet goes to a drama/SoL mix. Would make sense, as the Recollections also have both drama and a bit of cute interactions.
Though I'd prefer SoL only.
https://faavo.jp/minonokuni/project/839
Hotarumaru reconstruction project on Japanese Kickstarter.
>>127658765
I've seen some people tricked by the waki twins, but it's hard to see them as girls after you know their voices.
>>127670786
Ah, right, them. It's probably Bami. The mystery's resolved.
>>127643092
Ni-i-i-i-ice boat!
>100k
>still no Hige
I don't think that sword is in my game.
>>127678225
There's a rumor that doodling him works, as well as using Brocon to lure him out.
>>127679251
I'm already using Brocon as leader for my team that's on the last node. Poor guy is already at Lv55, but his brother won't come.
I'll try doodling him.
![CX38PV0UoAAx_lZ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jplpydQ.jpg "CX38PV0UoAAx_lZ[1].jpg")
Any recipes for Janitor and Akashi?
>tried the yari recipe so many times and used up all my fuda
>finally get a yari
>otegine
Nihongou being craftable is just a filthy lie.
>>127688919
Same.
>>127688919
>0.7% success rate
JFC, even 6-4 has a better drop rate than that.
>>127690305
Yikes. What are the other success rates?
>>127690675
That was one of the better ones: http://touken.7moe.com/index.php?type=136
>>127658494
>35/51/35/51
After days of nothing this + ema just got me two rare swords, one of them being Akashi.
>>127685863
I just got the gay janitor, thank goodness.
Wasted all my emas on his recipe since 6-4 looks especially harder to grind than 6-2.
Anyone else missing Akashi and Monoyoshi?
I'm only at 15k and grinding is already starting to affect me. How do I make this less horrible?
>>127695512
>How do I make this less horrible?
You don't. Welcome to every RNG grinding game ever.
>>127694042
>Anyone else missing Akashi and Monoyoshi?
Yes.
>>127695512
Do something on the side. Browse pixiv or niconico, watch anime, shitpost on 4chan. You could even read a VN if you're good enough at multi tasking.
>>127695512
>>127696171
This. Personally I like to put on recorded videogame streams cause it requires less attention than anime, but it all depends on your tastes. Be careful, though, cause if you have something to the side you might end up doing stuff like continuing with the wrong team.
>>127695968
It doesn't help that each run takes forever to finish.
How long does it take for everybody else? My swords usually need two turns and the game seems to play extra slowly for me so it takes like 20 minutes each time.
>>127697429
I've been avoiding that since I'm not good at multi tasking and end up forgetting about the game unless I'm constantly hearing it/looking at it. Already messed up a couple times too thanks to that.
Up
>>127644691
I'm still missing Akashi, Nihongou, Monoyoshi, and that other shota from the underground event (I forgot his name). And the two new bros, of course.
>>127694042
What recipe did you use?
>>127715760
Different person, but 550/50/550/550 worked for me.
Bump
>>127697984
>end up forgetting about the game
Increase the volume of your computer so you'll not forget about the game
I'm going to bed now. Please don't die again while I'm gone.
>>127696171
>>127697429
>9 days left
>20k
>enough koban but losing motivation
If anything I got Akashi and the experience is huge enough to put most of my newer teams on the lvl 60-70 mark but damn it's tiring after a while. What it's worse is when they're fatigued and you keep waiting to the point you simply forget about it. At least a new season just started so I can play and watch anime side by side.
Imanotsurugi is so determined to bring Usumidori back.
>>127735603
Looks to me like he's stealing all the MVPs. You should try giving the slower swords horses/unequippig his horse.
don't die
Still at the top. Until when do you think this will last?
>>127746560
Maximum until crafting event ends.
The only way it could last longer would be if we get something amazing with the anniversary (which I highly doubt).
>>127746560
Maybe when the event ends, or when Kancolle updates, whichever comes first. What is the ranking based on anyway? Players online, DMM point sales?
There needs to be a mass scrap option.
>>127746560
Probably until the last days of the event.
Are most of the /sword/ sleeping right now?
Back to stockpiling.
Used 35/51/35/35 in case anyone wants the recipe.
>>127750673
Euros should be at work right now.
>>127751101
>300 tries
JUST
>>127735603
He's so fast, I had to take him out of my tantou-waki team since not even giving everyone else horses and golden infantry helped.
>>127662601
> 兄妹
I wanted to object, but then I remembered that the sword is centuries older than the ship.
>>127748008
>What is the ranking based on anyway? Players online, DMM point sales?
This would interest me as well. Do we have no information on it?
> can't do the event since my shotas are too weak
Is this what they call thoroughly fucked?
new popularity poll is up:
http://twisen.com/election/index/3635
Up
>3:00 timer for once
>Kane-san
Game plsGranted I shouldn't complain because I got Hige at ~2k
>>127748368
This.
I'm frugal as fuck so I go the extra mile to scrap swords for resources, but it takes so long.
Does anyone have a fast team? Mine takes about 10min for one E4 run, and I need some recommendations to get my efficiency up.
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What's your least favorite sword and why?
>>127772952
All swords are great, but KAKAKA really has an ugly design and an annoying voice.
>>127772952
Nakigitsune because he drops way too much and that fucking fox's voice. Not a fan of his design either. There are a few other swords I don't really like, but he easily stands out as the worst for me.
Nakigitsune a cute. Best boy.
>>127772952
Nakigitsune, every time he drops I immediately dismantle him. I hate that stupid little fox more than him though
>>127772952
Hachisuka. I hate his design. It feels so out of place, even when you consider that the swords aren't very cohesive in general and his personality is pretty grating.
>>127772952
Yamanbagiri. I just can't handle adolescent angst.But I very much like when he gets bullied with dicks.
This event is incredible for leveling up. All my swords were around 60-70 when we started, and now they're maxed up or reaching lvl 90.
>>127782430
Talking of this event triggers me since >>127755274, so can you offer any advice?
>>127782614
My swords were too weak for E4, so I had to grind E3 to get Hizamaru and only now I think I'm able to try to get his anija back.
Find a map that's not too easy but not too hard on your swords and exploit it, it's really all about testing team set-ups until you come up with one that can kick the enemies goodbye.
>>127782614
Not him but I don't use shotas. I just use two teams, one uchi/waki team that's all level 95, and another that's a mix of waki, tachi, and uchi leveled at 55-60+~.
The second team does the first 4 battles, and the first one does the rest. Second team might have some problems so I need to keep them in sakura fubuki.
>>127783005
You mean level up the boys on lower difficulties until they mature? That… makes sense, actually. Wow, I feel dumb for not thinking of that.
>>127783265
So I can after all use tachis and uchis, just as long as I don't use yaris and Iwa? That's very useful, thanks.
>>127783712
I believe I heard yaris are actually useful, if you have one with enough level.
But yeah, don't bring Iwatooshi.
>>127772952
Ookurikara. I want to punch him in the face.
>>127783712
For the tachis you'd want to avoid having too many night battles though, and definitely no indoor ones. My team with tachis only does one night battle.
I think yaris should be fine if they're strong enough. Someone here said their lv 99 Otegine was great for beating the enemy yari.
>>127785221
>>127785676
Yaris are great for the last three notes, all my Lv99 yari can one-hit the enemies.
>>127785560
I guess it's thanks to fanart but I can only see him being tsun now. I instinctively thought his new year's line was cute.
>>127779841
I always thought he fits in pretty well with his brothers.
>>127772952
Yagen. I don't like his design and he's not particularly special enough for me to use him.
>>127779841
I love Hachisuka's design.
There will never be enough men in high heels to satisfy my dick.
>>127787552
> I don't like his design
Not trying to start an argument, but he's easily my favourite shota design-wise. For the sake of comparison, who do you like the most?
I'm having trouble to open the game since yesterday. I tried inserting the cookies again but the page still won't load. Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
>>127790720
No problems here. Did you try changing browsers?
>>127791082
It's the same thing on a different browser.
>>127791985
What kind of error do you get? Did you try all the proxy guide thingies on the wiki?
>>127792739
>>127792739
I'm using the VPN Gate and it works just fine now, but the console was telling me I was blocked by the client before that. I wonder what happened.
>>127790447
If you're talking about shotas, my fave is Sayo. Generally design wise it's Kogitsunemaru.
With Yagen I feel something that another anon said well: with his colour scheme he kinda looks like an alien to me. He's one of those swords whom I think looks better outside of his game sprites.
Reminder that quite a lot swords are more about character than design.
Just look at the two new brothers. They're great even though the designs are iffy, especially monobrow.
>>127795109
I'm glad I'm pretty flexible design wise. If I end up disliking a sword it's always because of its personality.
The brothers were seriously ugly at first but now I don't mind.
>>127795109
The brothers (especially Hizamaru) are between my favorite swords. Mainly because I'm a sucker for the Minamoto clan and Yoshitsune.
>>127779841
I would like his design a lot more, if it wasn't this fucking gold
>>127772952
KAKAKAKA
But without his headwear he is a lot cuter.
Also I can't stand this annoying bitch Ookurikara.
>>127796419
It's modeled after his real life sheath
Do you guys keep a copy of each sword? I scrap the ones I dislike on sight after collecting their CGs so I can put off buying more slots.
>>127798823
>not leveling and using every sword
You don't understand how useful it is to have many swords for events.
>>127798823
Currently I do, but as long as they keep adding new swords this will eventually become unfeasible and I'll just get rid of the more common ones. (Yes, I used the free DMM points for the upgrade, but eventually that won't be enough.)
>>127798823
I don't keep a copy of each, I just stick protection charms on event ones/faves as soon as I find them.
For the rest of my swords, I'm just really careful. Oh wait, I thought you meant copy as in 2, of course I keep 1 of each sword, otherwise I'd miss out on story bits.
>>127796370
>crotches touching
Lewd.
>>127772952
Gokotai. I can't stand crybabies with ear-piercing voices. He and his tigers are well-designed though.
>>127803624
I hope the SOL sword anime makes this canon.
>>127787552
>not liking aniki
>no Hige
I want to give up.
>>127807291
You can do it, anon! Don't give up!
Are you getting A ranks on the last wave? I had quite a few Bs even with 2 lvl 99 oodachis.
>>127808074
Always A on last wave, except once every 50 fights when I fuck up.
I think my account is bugged.
>>127807291
Do it for Brocon!
>>127772952
Akita. Ugly ass design and boring all over.
>>127799247
This so much. I used my free points to get new slots anyway so I'm not worried about space right now.
>>127810748
Poor Akita. Not even his artist cares about him.
>>127795109
I hated Hizamaru when I first saw him but now I just want him in my citadel ;_; grinding is hard.
>>127811124
Do it for him, anon!
>>127810903
It's weird though, I thought most people would put effort into designing because they're going to be paid for it and it's going for public view, kind of.
Good thing Ichigo's artist got the good end of the stick, she didn't give a fuck about her work and yet her character is super popular.
Samonjis&Janitor, Otegine, Nikkari, Iwatooshi and Ishikirimaru have the best character designers.
What do I do if I can't unsee the monobrow?
>>127813067
Live for the monobrow
>>127813174
…What?
What if Monobrow-kun actually has a monobrow which he hides, up to a point, with his hair, making it seem like he doesn't really have a monobrow? That'd be a brilliant scheme.
>>127773156
KAKAKA also shares the same seiyuu as Tanuki and
Tonbokiri to my surprise.
>>127789580
He looks like he came out of Fate/Extra.
>>127814440
I still laugh at Iwatooshi and Jiroutachi sharing seiyuu.
>>127816646
Unlike the case with Kakaka and Tanuki, I can't unhear Iwa in Ziro.
>>127772952
Tsurumaru. His design is unappealing to me and I find his "lel surprise" shit more annoying than cute.
>>127755712
Is it his turn to be flavor of the month?
>>127824006
Tsurumaru's eyes bother me so much. It's a shame his scale figure is exactly the same.
>>127824108
I'll take him everyday of the month, every month.
You know what I'd like to have in the game sometime? A sword that can outspeed and/or one-shot that yari.
Make way for the new fastest tachi.
>>127826113
Anija, on the other side.
>>127825810
You mean the E4 yari, or the Underground event R5 yari? A high-level Hasebe or other fast uchi with a +17 mobility horse, gold cavalry, and proper formation can outspeed and kill the latter. Haven't tried with the E4 yari though.
>>127772952
The least ones are the ones that don't tell me much, like Mitsutada and Uguisumaru, even Hachiuska (is a racist of fake swords and what?). But I think the developers will fix that by adding more recollections with new blades or the current ones.
>>127810748
Is a shame, because I like him with his childish curiousity and enthusiasm, he should need more interactions or something.
>>127801782
This is me, but I don't find him annoying but adorable. The fact that, despite his whining and fragility, he still manage to beat enemies down and following our orders. just awakes a parental instinct inside me (the effect of moe).Also, he kind off meind me of Lag from Tegami Bachi, which is a slight plus
>>127828992
Hey you, was Tegami Bachi any good? Sorry for the offtopic, but I loved seeing it as a kid and just forgot about it once I stopped getting Jump.
>>127829240
Yes is good, it can be quite touching if you can resound with the character stories (the protagonist made me love the shota character type done alright).
Although, around the last two-three volumes, it get rushed and could be quite unpleasant.
When Nitro will hire some famous or notorious mangakas to design swords? I want a sword designed by Hiroyuki Asada now.
>get connection errors twice in 1 hour
Please game.
>>127834334
Make that three. Maybe the game is telling me to call it quits for now.
>>127834830
Can't stop. Don't stop.
Hey remember these? I wonder when we'll be able to open them.
>>127785560
What the fuck, what happened to his legs?
>>127838776
Perhaps it's for future maps.
>>127814440
Tanuki a cute
What are the best equips for yari?
>>127848145
Otegine and janitor: heavy infantry, defense boosting horses
Tonbokiri: light or mix of light and heavy infantry, high mobility horse
>>127848145
You take their hand and equip a wedding band on their finger.
>>127848145
Heavy infantry.
I'm still salty about why yari troop options(and naginata) are so little though. Spearmen are not very useful compared to shields and cavalries(they may be useful for a crit build since yari have high crit but shield/cavalry are much better options than it, especially considering the troop HP).
>>127838776
I don't even remember where we got these.
>>127852637
They were rewards for completing world 6 stages for the first time, I think. Maybe.
>>127848954
"Friendship bracelet", you mean.
Give up.
>>127853538
What does it say?
>>127853750
>When did you get Higekiri?
>at 5k and below
>at 10k and below
>at 10k and above
>I'm above 10k and he's still not here
>>127854206
Huh, a lot of people got him at 5k and below? Amazing.
>>127854206
万means 10k, anon.
>>127854719
Shit yeah I just realized. Sorry.
>>127854593
See >>127854719
It's actually
>81% got him under 50k
>6% got him under 100k
>1% got him over 100k
>12% are over 100k and still don't have him
>>127856263
Thanks senpai.
>>127853538
I feel so scared thinking that this could have been mean. I'm only waiting to get the other brother using free tries now, already got not-Soma Cruz
>>127644691
Akashi, Nihongou, Uguisumaru, Higekiri ;_;
I'll be getting Hizamaru tomorrow if all goes according to schedule. I hope Hige drops by then. This event is tiring me out.
>>127644691
Only Akashi and the event brocon. Hoping to smith Akashi out but it's been giving me nothing but 1:30s and more 1:30s.
>>127848954
Gine a qt.
>>127695512
I have a full time job with my own computer access and a rather private cubicle. I'm doing work while grinding every half hour. I set an alarm on my computer to remind myself. I've gotten the last reward before Hizamaru and still no Higekiri insight *cries*
>>127860012
>blogging
>*cries*
Please leave.
>>127787276
Hachisuka annoys the heck out of me with his golden armor and his disdain of fakes (don't you indirectly insult Manba-chan, he's had it bad enough!)
>>127794869
Yagen's awakening sprite scares the heck out of me. He looks ghostly imo.
>>127795109
Eh I can't understand the design hate that a lot of people seem to have. I personally found both of them aesthetically pleasing. But Hizamaru's post-toku pants are horrible. Admittedly, it's their personalities that make me really want them in my citadel.
>>127860341
At this point the thread is already so infested, non- dumblrtards might as well leave.
>>127781415
Being one of the most popular swords aside, I barely see porn of him, compared with Kashuu who's basically a pornstar of this franchise.
>>127860645
You only have to mention neo/v/ and maybe some meme developer for me to complete shitposter bingo.
Can TouRabu be seen as an otome at all? Even if you imagine you're a girl saniwa?
>>127862350
Not really as there isn't any romance between the saniwa and the swords.
>>127864620
There isn't? I thought some swords said vaguely romantic/implying romance to you? Mainly Hasebe and Kashuu.
>>127864620
Yamanbagiri's New Year's line sounded vaguely otome-ish.
>>127864779
Hasebe is more loyalty than romance, and it's Kashuu's personality to want affection so he's an exception.
It's all very vague, and mostly rather loyal than romantic.
>>127865416
Come on, you know the swords would probably fuck you if you asked them to.
>>127865873
We're talking about canon interactions right now, not fantasies of what might happen. Saniwa won't do more than give headpets.
>>127860645
>>127862162
Is it really that bad?
>>127867271
Pained cries about Tumblr being Mordor? Sure. Actual invasion by Tumblr? Lel.
Let's get some more positive vibes in here.
What's your most favorite sword? Why?
>>127870442
Kashuu, just because. He's my starter sword because of his seiyuu and I'm glad I picked him.
>>127870442
Souza, he unexpectedly caught my attention, and I grew fond of him as I learned more about him.
>>127870539
> just because
It's because you're a closeted lesbo.
>>127870442
Shokudakiri
I have a thing for Chuunis
>>127870442
CCP. He's just my type.
>>127870442
Hotarumaru best sword. His design is perfect, he has an angelic voice and acts like a cute brat.
I want to spoil him.
>>127870442
Doudanuki. I resound with his down-to-earth view about swords: tool of fighting and nothing more.
Plus, he looks and sounds like a badass (he also looks like the MC of Berserk).
>>127880681
You're gay, aren't you?
>>127880765
I'm straight and I like badass characters (other than cute ones).
>>127880859
>>127880971
You forgot to add that you're also stupid.
>>127880971
Don't mind me, I just see someone mention Berserk and can't resist the urge to shitpost.
>>127870442
Ichi-nii. I love brocons, especially the doting older brother type.
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LEfQlHy.jpg "large[1].jpg")
New art by the original artists included as B2 poster in B's Log 3.
Is it just me or is Kashuu's head too big?
>>127883151
I'm more bothered by his facial expression, or more specifically, the negative synergy it has with the rest of its head.
>>127848646
Is there a chart or page somewhere with all the swords listed with their best equips?
>>127883480
>with their best equips
Which troops are best depends on the map you want to go to and the level of your sword.
Just look at the possible troops and their stat, look what your sword can equip, and choose the one that raises the stats you need.
>>127883645
I always go with shields for low-level swords and wakis, since I pick maps way above their tier to quickly level them, and cavalry for everyone else.
>>127883151
Kasen doesn't look like Kasen to me, it must be his eyes.
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SH1jyuY.jpg "large[1].jpg")
>>127884960
I think it's the eyebrows as well.
>>127870442
Iwatooshi, for literally everything about his design, voice, and personality.
>>127884960
All of them look kinda different from what I'd expect from their original artists.
>>127870442
Shishiou. I love the genki types.
>>127870442
Kane-san. He's cute idiot with a big heart and strong values, I also think he's very well-designed; his outfit, hair and face.
>>127870442
Yamato. He's too beautiful for this world.
>>127887725
He's a big spoiled brat, but his awakening sprite is definitely the best.
>>127887000
Art evolution, perhaps.
>>127890848
I want to boost Kane-san's stupid ego and make him cry later.
I like his awakening sprite but I like Doudanuki's the best.
>>127870442
Toss up between Yagen (whose history and story is the among the most interesting to me. Also: aniki) and Uguisumaru (original swordbando)
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>>127887518
Genki boys are great.
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>>127870442
I love kuuderes, white hair, and twin characters. Also, amnesia moe.
>>127915381
^
don't die
I just realized how cute Manba's attack sprite is.
Now if only his default sprite didn't look so dead.
Good night.
>>127943705
They should do more of those emoji things, honestly.
>>127945632
Agreed
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>>127939051
Sometimes ishikiri looks so cool and sometimes he is so cute. Definitely underappreciated
>>127870442
Kogitsunemaru simply because he's my swordbando.
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