Kanpeki~/canon edition
IGN Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0C3Y3eevXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs7voeTd-ZY
>Corrin Chooses to Smash!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMvgKqMWAlg
>Fates NA Website ("Full site coming soon")
http://fireemblemfates.nintendo.com/
>Linkbin
http://pastebin.com/bufdd9wu
>Previous
>>127396994
I love Sakura!
that family is just too absurd to not be canon
what the fuck were IS thinking?
Cutest family
>was gonna make a thread
>2 came early
>still get a Severa one anyways
Always hit refresh and Ctrl+F.
BEST
Red hair always a best
if I give Lex some swords, will he be able to pass them onto Saskatchewan or should I just pass on all the extras and hope delmud can turn it around?
why selenafags like to see waifu get railed by subaki??
Felicia is the cutest! She makes me the happiest person alive! She i all i could ever want! I`m going to dedicate my entire life to making her as happy as she makes me! My feelings for her could never, ever fade! I love Felicia!
Remember to join the Severa Fanclub today!
Recommend your friends and get a free pair of tsuntails!
>>127454981
Does this shade look better?
>>127456524
>Severa Fanclub
Does my Bench ticket get me in?
>>127456232
>>127456602
It's cool to realize your wife's faults as long as you still love her!Real men handicap themselves too. On Hard.
New thread
>>>/v/322572187
has all the discussion you come to love without all the shitty /feg/ posters and /feg/ memes
>>127456378
Lex getting the Silver Blade from Chagall is your best option. It's all Scathach needs, really.
Also
>Saskatchewan
I'm calling him this forever now.
Does anyone have a script for Crimsons supports with Male Kamui? Or does anyone know if her supports with him are translated in the latest fan translation update?
Currently on a Nohr run, but I'll support with her if it's not in moon-runes, otherwise I'll just do a run with Femui
I LOVE PIERI!
>>127456732
Hardly anyone knows what the fuck they're talking about in that thread
>>127456834
Should be in the support bin from the OP
>>127456937
Did the Japs only just recently realize that they look alike or something?
Hi, /feg/.
I have this issue. See, I'm not very good at games like Smash Bros or Fire Emblem unless a certain requirement is fulfilled. I play very terribly with characters and utilize units incorrectly unless I can envision them right next to me, cheering me on to use them to their full potential within the game itself. Why is this important?
Well I plan on maining Mamui. He obviously isn't real, so I require help at fulfilling my criteria. I need someone to come to my house, go into my bedroom, and cosplay Mamui for me so I can get good in this game. As this with be a long and hard training session, I recommend you bring snacks and whatever else you need.
Can someone help me out? I really want to get good at this game! I'll even cosplay a character for you in return
>>127457058
except they dont
>>127456524
Oh it's you again. Hey there.
>>127456531
It's looks great, though it still looks a little too dark. Sorry for being so picky, anon.
>>127456937
The Suzukaze support was kinda shit but Severa'd make a great Midorimom.
>>127456786
ONEGAI,SHIIDA!
>>127456732
>that thread
Seriously though, when the fuck did /v/ become gamefaqs?
>>127457185
I'm always here.
I'll never leave.How was your day?
>>127457340
Why, what's going on? It's too big for me to read all that shit.
>>127456130
Is Marth going to have an English voice?
>>127457465
It's nothing in particular, it's just the general tone of the thread.
>>127457594
yes, it's in the first IGN video
Why does Owain seem to have a hard time with Owain in all of the DLC discussions?
Does he not get paid like the other soldiers?
>>127457381
We're here forever as they say.I had a fun day yesterday. And you?
>>127457195
One of these times, I'll get it right. How about this?
>>127457594
Yeah, he does.
>>127457594
Confirmed English, check the first IGN video.
They're putting a rest to the "Marth speaks in Japanese meme". All of his post-Smash 4 appearances have him in English.
>>127457087
>>127457671
a hard time with money*
hurr
>fuck up and place Micaiah too close to an enemy unit
>stuck reloading a battle save over and over until she survives a 90% hit rate
>>127456524
>>127457185
>>127457381
>>127457689
Fuck off faggots.
>>127457196
Really? I kinda liked that he figured out that she'd been through some shit before becoming Camilla's retainer.
>>127457689
Dentist later today, not fun shit.
Also tearing through Sacred Stones. That is fun shit.
>>127457841
he does it for free
>>127457695
That's perfect, anon! Thank you so much for doing this!
>>127458012
No problem! Give me a minute and I'll go fix the rest of the sprites.
This thread is already pretty shit
>>127457953
It's good on that front, but I preferred other supports, like with Kamui, Silas, or Owain. Shit, even Marx had a cute support.The Owain support was mad downgraded from Awakening tho, but still cute.
>>127457701
>>127457695
>>127457661
Huh, so he does. Same VA from Codename STEAM, so Yuri Lowenthal, right? It'll be a bit weird hearing Yosuke's voice but then again with Lucina I'm hearing a deeper voiced Rise.
With Smash though, I still wonder. Cloud has an English voice actor and yet he only speaks Japanese. I wonder if Marth would still do the same, especially if you really want to stretch it and consider that his English voiced appearances are technically DLC of a sort (since you have to buy the amiibo).
Also, any word on Roy's amiibo having functionality in Fates or is he out of luck?
>>127458178
Was her support with Kamui any good? Most of his seem to be shit.
>>127457989
How far on Sacred Stones are you at?
>>127458008
>mod Owain
artists pls make this a thing
>>127458082
You're an angel, anon. I'm very grateful. Here's a rare Inigo (and Olivia). Merry Christmas.
>>127458261
Hell no, her Kamui support is just the two of them shopping for a Yukata and her wanting to go back to Awakeningworld.
>>127458261
As far as I remember, it cane down to:
>Help me find my yukata
>It means a lot to me
>Lemme tell you bout my dead mom
>Wait this is a kimono
>Oh now I get it, I'll totally marry you Kamui-sama
Basic, but cute.
>>127458323
Like literally just started, Chapter 2 early. I'll probably power through it before classes start in 2 weeks and then that'll keep me busy til Fates drops.
>>127458261
>Mamui
>Good supports
>>127458261
No, it's really shit.
So far, which Fates Support is GOAT?
>>127459003
None
>>127459003
kamui/my husbando
>>127459003
mamuixselena or mamuixsoleil
>>127459003
All of it are shit.
>>127458431
Hope you don't mind that I put them all together. I don't really want to spam the thread with shittons of Inigo sprites.
>>127459003
There's no such thing as a good fire emblem support
>>127459114
>Severa or Solel anything
>Good
>>127459003
Me x You're Waifu
>>127459060
>>127459131
>>127459238
They should just get rid of supports entirely.
Shadow Dragon was the perfect Fire Emblem game.
>>127459267
Don't trigger Solel shitposters please. They only like her because "she made le tumblr mad".
>>127459003
Kamui x my waifu
>>127459168
That's perfectly fine, anon. Thank you for your hard work!
>>127459003
You x Midoriko
Who is probably a 30 year old midget in American version to be safe
>>127459003
>Mamui
Oboro
Charlotte
Matoi
Orochi
Nohr!Aqua
>Femui
Suzukaze
Takumi
Joker
Hinata
>>127459471
>Joker
Nice try
>>127459520
Did you actually read it?
>>127459471
Joker's fucking sucks, what are you talking about?
Charlotte's is overratedand I say this despite her being my waifu, Oboro's is generic, and the others are pretty mediocre. Orochi's is okay as a friendly support but it really suffers from that sudden S support.
>she sees your dick
>>127459346
>You're
I-I'm a waifu?
>>127459471
You forgot Flora, Creepy Uncle Yuki, Crimson and Papa Gunther forFemui
>>127459552
Did you?
>>127459627
>she
>>127457196
>Shitvera
>Great mom for Midoriko
>Great mom for anybody.
>>127459471
>Matoi
>Orochi
>Joker
"No"
Anyone know where i can download a rom of the Fates special edition?
>>127459627
Well, duh.
She's a toilet.
>>127459003
Femui x Flora
>shipped today
Soon.
>>127459520
It's a good support mr memer.
reminder that you could be playing fates in english RIGHT NOW if you head on over to homebrew general
>>127459895
It's not, kill yourself Jokerfag.
>>127459420
Wait how DID they deal with her, for real?
>>127459960
In the localized version? Who the fuck knows, she looks like a goddamn child.
>>127459238
>There's no such thing as a good fire emblem support past FE9
FTFY
Best girl!
>>127459003
Ryouma x Marx.
>>127460109
Elly ispretty decent in combatbut if she brings up Hollywood one more fucking time she's getting a knuckle sandwich.
>>127460109
just fuck my shit up spaceman
>>127459937
Not on my N3DSXL I won't;_;
>>127460061
>fe6
>>127460187
That was for a movie scene senpai
>>127460271
I'm sure it has a few good ones.
Awakening and Fates have none.
>>127459471
None of those are particularly good.
>>127460143
>>127459808
Why are so many gay pairings better than the straight ones?
>>127460340
shhh they dont need to know that desu
anyone here gay furry
>>127459952
Stay jealous bitch.
>>127460368
Virion
>>127459937
I preffer to wait than trying and ruining my 3ds
>>127460443
Ahahahaha
>>127459471
Then I have shit taste for thinking some other Mamui supports not there were ok to me.
>>127460431
My husbando is more popular than your's so I don't have much to be jealous of desu.
>inb4 "b-but canon!"
I like Hana
>>127460427
(You)
>>127460368
Nah.
>>127460521
Better than your grandpa supports
>>127460571
Uh huh, sure anon. Why are you so defensive?
>>127460616
>Cherrypicking
I could cherrypick too, but I don't have to since all of the Awakening supports are shit.
>>127460618
Find me ONE support from Awakening/Fates that's even remotely as good asJill/Lethe.
>>127460393
give me a good support then, senpai
>>127459003
Marx x Lazwald
>>127460395
It was like that in Awakening too.
I think it's because they didn't have to shoehorn marriage into it so many of them feel more natural.
Anyone ever notice that /feg/ gets the most confrontational between 1 and 6 PM EST?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVUm8W92c3k
>>127460804
Wow, your taste is so shit
>>127460769
It's probably a Leoncuck, don't bother, anon.
>>127460859
That's when all the kids are most active, so it makes sense.
post sakura!
>>127460826
All I see is Xander and (Name pending)
>>127460769
>defensive
You're the one getting triggered and calling people memers in response to somebody saying your husbando's supports are shit.
>>127460804
Marx/Ryouma
wow that was hardI don't even ship them either
>>127460826
I spy Inigo feets~~
>>127460982
It's azur
Anyone can help me get a .cia of fates special edition?
>>127460804
Jill/Lethe was shit
>I hate Laguz
>Wow you're so ignorant
>Suddenly
>Wow Laguz are pretty cool now
>>127461097
its in the pastebin
>>127461093It's Indigo
>>127460987
You're the one who got triggered by Joker having a good support. Sorry yours didn't cut it ;)
>>127461208
oh my bad, thanks anon-kun
>>127460826
>I think it's because they didn't have to shoehorn marriage into it so many of them feel more natural
Holy fuck this
I see SO many otherwise-fine supports in both Awakening and Fates get ruined by having to shoehorn fucking marriage and an S-rank into it
Not saying that some supports are good or anything anyways mind you (the LE LOOK HOW QUIRKY I AM supports can still fuck off) but still
Was part of the reason I was really disappointed the mechanic is back in Fates after the shit it fucked up in Awakening, but I guess them dropping it after how well it was recieved by waifufags was a foolish hope
>>127459238
>What is Hugh and Lugh
>What is Roy and Marcus
How would you make Severa a good unit in Fates?
>>127459880
neat. I actually saw a Good Smile Lucina figure at Frank and Son's Collectibles in Rowland Heights, California. that's also where I acquired a Robin amiibo. Unfortunately Lucina was the only non-amiibo Fire Emblem merchandise they had there. I've been looking everywhere for more but in the meantime I used the amiibo to get Robin in Fire Emblem If Special Edition. and Thoron looks fucking weird in this game. it's like the Levin Sword and Thoron work like in Smash as opposed to how they did in Awakening. the fact that I can dress up even the Einherjar and give them colored glasses is pretty cool I guess. shame I need the Lucina amiibo to even use the Parallel Falchion instead of Lucina's replica.
>>127461451
You don't.
>>127461451
S.rank with Femui
I read something from Meme50 a while ago. The girl had her hair done in a style similar to Kagerou (and also had huge tits). I have more appreciation for Kagerou now.
>>127461451
Go to Gamefaqs/Reddit and play pretend.
>>127461354
>n-no u
Jokerfags, when will they learn
>>127459735
the pastebin
>>127461451
I hear the bench is a good pair up partner.
>>127461451
Less body odor
>There will never, ever be a Fire Emblem 4 remake
>No rubu rubu~ with Celice
>>127461451
Fix her mods and bases
>>127461451
You don't.
Either make her Marx's buttslut or bench her desu.
>>127461459
I'm still debating if I even want the amiibos. There's not much that even interests me for them in Fates and #FE doesn't even have amiibo support.
>>127461669
Good because fe4 is shit.
>>127461669
Same
>>127461451
Dude she can let you put ANY unit on your bench onto the field, that's the best ability there is. All she has to do is not be deployed. You gain a whole unit!
>>127460181How is Toma as a unit? Is he pretty good?
>>127461818
You're shit
>>127461741
>make her Marx's buttslut
>implying that role isn't reserved forSuzukaze
Does Birthright have at least SOME varying objectives or is it all routing?
>>127461669
>name wars
>Fury x Lewyn is literally canon
>Lachesis will always love her brother more than you
>Sigurd is a cuck
I can already imagine all the shitposting
>>127462043
Defeat boss :^)
And one Escape map you can beat in 2 turns since you start right by where you need to go
>>127461961I'm playing on easy so I can't really say all that much
But yes, he is pretty damn good. Tsubasa is the one who is not keeping up the pace, any magic skills you may want to use are irrelevant once you get Kiria, any physical lance stuff Toma is more useful for, she doesn't even learn many buff skills and she can't take hits. Only thing she's useful for is healing really.
>>127462042
Is their support gay or something?
>>127462198
>>127461961
Fuck off and stop replying to yourself cuck, nobody cares about your shit game here.
Cute ice daughter
>>127462114
>It's a boss map
>>127462367
nice water daughter
>>127461390
I'd really think it's because of the fact everyone can support with anyone, and that determines the writing quality in them. There's some/few good in them within the mediocrity of one unit, the Avatar even more so. S-Ranks can be fine, maybe even marriagewithout fucking children this timeif they were limited to a small amount.
>>127462284
No it's just that Suzukaze provides good pair up bonuses for Marx.
>>127462198
Forgot to mention, even with healing, Itsuki is able to learn Dia, I even have him with Dia+1 right now. It's not as effective as Tsubasas since lower mag or whatever and he has less EP reserves but still. And even then there's also items you can use to heal. She also has some status removal skill but as far as I can tell I think it's only been able to remove poison only, and there's items to do that too. So as of now, Tsubasa is least best girl.
>>127462198
Oh, that's nice to know. Toma is best boyimo
>>127462675Good taste, anon.
>>127462675
He's strong and relatively tanky, but he's not learning many variety of skills so far, only lance and fire stuff, but he's still very good. He's also bro-tier as fuck, one of his side quests has him and Itsuki picking up chicks.
>>127462098
>Raquesis
How did they honestly fuck that up?
>>127462284
Fujos sure think so.
The translation is not great, though. The translator said they have trouble even understanding Suzukaze.
>>127462098
It would be fantastic.
>>127462114
Its sad how that escape map turned out.
Its a really cool concept - you gotta rush to the Dragon Vein before Marx can reach you, freeze the water, and escape.
But they seem to ave forgotten your fliers exist and IIRC there is only 1 enemy that can even attempt to attack you before you leave.
>>127462675
Agreed. He has the best male seiyuu voicing him tooimo
>>127462889
Between Raquesis and Beruka, I would say localizers these days aren't very smart at figuring out whether L's or R's fit better for a translation
more gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFCYV3QM8w
>JUST
>>127463336
we knew this
>>127463336
hinoka's voice is godawful, even worse than before
Just finished playing Birthright through the translation patch. Can't comment on characters since the supports and endings aren't translated. Played the game on hard classic. To give a spoiler free review:
Presentation/Graphics: Overall much better than Awakening. There are some pretty cool critical animations (Trueblade kick, lancer, and Adventurer come to mind), the models look better, and the cutscenes that make use of battle graphics are handled very well. As far as character designs go, honestly, PoR and RD are the only games I'd say have more appealing looking characters.
Music: This was also greatly improved over Awakening's, and I'd say it's definitely in the top 5 of the series, with me personally putting it at 4th behind FE4, RD, and FE12. While I liked Aqua's song, is does get kinda annoying hearing the same one song so often.
Story: From how people talk about the story in Hoshido/Fates, you'd think it was complete shit, but honestly it wasn't that bad. It feels more like the story just didn't meet the expectations that people were hoping it would. The two main problems I felt the story had were that 1. The format is very episodic, and its structure really does feel more like something you'd see a manga author write compared to a game writer. 2. The whole story is really just one big long arc, making the pacing feel kinda odd. The mysteries that I'm guessing IK reveals didn't really feel that huge, but it's obvious there's some pull for it there. Story feels more strongly defined by a few select moments than as an overall experience The route didn't portray Nohr as evil as people seem to imply as it really feels more like Garon is evil rather than Nohr.
Gameplay: Everything up to chapter 14 and after chapter 22, along with the paralogues, are pretty fun chapters. Ryouma being too OP is the only thing I'd say brings the gameplay down, but it's overall a really fun and great improvement. Final boss battle was good.
Now for Nohr.
in FE4, weapon inheritance is based on gender, right? Males pass on to males and females pass to females?
Hey guys, my taste in waifus is so shit. Can you recommend me some good and top tier waifus?
>>127463336
Is that Laura Bailey as Mikoto?
>>127463724
Cordelia for the thinking man
>>127463336
Nothing new, just the same exact section IGN showed off.
>>127463724
Marica.
Top tier in looks, personality, and gameplay.
Literally no faults.
>>127463336
>literally no gameplay
I want to hear more battle voice acting
What girl doesn't /feg/ hate?
>>127463545
But Hinoka doesn't matter in this game at all.
Even the way she joins in IK is lazy.
Here is how it plays out.
>Yukimura is fighting some axe users with his army of Myrmidons.
>One of them gets hit so he thinks it is all over.
>Crimson and Ryoma fly in and crit/dodge/kill the two Berserkers
>Yukimura is saved
>Crimson tells Ryoma to stop being stupid and join Kamui
>So he does
>Hinoka suddenly appears and states that it is her time in the story to say one thing and the one thing will be that she will join.
>>127463701
Yes, but it's reversed for Briggid/Spouse and Cuan/Ethlyn
>>127463724
Enjoy.
>>127463698
Nice, I'm glad you enjoyed birthright, it looks really fun.
>>127463942
cool, cause I was just about to ask who to give swords for patty to receive
thanks friendo
>>127463701
Mostly, except Briggid passes to Faval and Cuan passes to Altenna
Ethlyn passes to Leaf and Briggid's lover passes to Patty cake.
>>127463336
All I want to see is what Lazwald, Benoit, Saizou, Oboro, Tsukuyomi, and Ashura will be named.
Kagerou will probably be Kage.
>>127463336
>Azura's laugh
>Corrin's laugh
These voices are so goofy.
>>127463962
Don't give him more shit options.
>>127463698
Hoshido's maps aren't really an improvement over Awakening's.
>>127463962
>Charlotte
What?
>>127464134
>>127464143
Fuck off with your shit taste, those are the only well-written waifus in the game.
>>127464116
AHAHAHAHAHAhuahuahuahuah...
>>127463724
Celice if Celice was a girl
>>127463886
>Using Marcia when Tanith and Jill exist
She sucks.
>>127464116
I hate the end part of Corrin's laugh
I'll be playing as FCorrin anyway, hopefully her voice isn't as bad
>>127463698
Hope you haven't gotten too used to those Rout the enemy maps, anon.I fucking sucked ass when Nohr threw it's first defend map at me holy shit
>>127464116
Azura's giggle kinda creeps me out. She should not giggle.
>>127463724
tharja
>>127464354
>>127464257
>>127464116
>>127463724
Severa is cute.
>>127464356
To be fair that Defend map is probably one of the hardest in the series, I imagine most people probably got stuck at it for at least a little while.
>>127464139
it has a few wide open maps but it's overall way better
>>127464260
>Tanith
>even remotely worth considering when you have a properly trained Marcia
And Jill's just an angry racist red Lyn. She comes in several chapters later and is nowhere near as useful for speedrunning.
>>127464357
That's because you were tainted by /feg/ memes and think that Azura is boring and should do nothing but stare blankly into the abyss.
>>127464492
He said top tier, not shit tier.
>>127464492
I want to tear into Severa's hymen with my dick
>>127463698
Nohr 10 and Nohr 12 are where shit gets serious. Just a heads up.
>>127464610
Yee I know, great Awakening unit with fun supports, what's the issue?
>>127464520
"A few" is being generous.
>>127464547
>implying Tanith isn't broken as fuck
>implying Jill isn't one of the best units
Also, Marcia's join time and bases suck.She's better in RD.
>>127463336
im gonna eat potatoes with my cousin
>>127464204
>Suicidal Traitor
>Takumi used goods
>Paid Slut
No wonder you have shit taste.
>>127464492
More like she's shit.
>cute husbando
>he has a good support with femui
>he's a usable unit
>ISIS didn't nerfed his name
Feels good man
>>127464139
While there are some wide open maps in Hoshido, you'd never see something like the ninja chapter or the first camilla chapter in Awakening's main story.
>>127464356
As long as Nohr doesn't throw another Ryouma at me, I expect it to be more difficult from that alone.
>>127464824
Still better-written than your shallow waifu
>>127464726
>le Severa is good in Awakening meme
She's garbage unless it's autistic post-grind maxed out stuff.
>>127464883
Remain calm.
>>127463724
Look no further.
>>127464781
What exactly makes Tanith broken then?
The ability to summon useless units that get in the way?
And I acknowledge that Jill is one of the best units.
But so is Marcia and Marcia has the advantage of being way cuter and more likable.
>>127464726
>great unit
Someone hasn't played lunatic.
>Good supports
LOL
>>127464847
Clever
>>127464786
to hell with making my cousin eat potatoes, i'm gonna make her eat my dick
>>127464883REMAIN CALM
Anyone here downgrade?
Is it worth it?
I even found a 32gb sd
>>127465016
Tanith can call in 6 fodder units per map
>>127464883
"Kaze" is objectively less cute than "Suzukaze" but goddamn it could have been worse.
>>127465159
>Tanith can call in 6 fodder units per map
...that do nothing but get in the way, steal exp, and die.
How are they useful again? Just let the enemy throw themselves at my party and die. It's not like PoR is so difficult that you need the extra assistance.
>>127464921
Yes you would, in fact Camilla's chapter is similar to quite a few in Awakening, just with that "step here to get fucked" DV tacked on that doesn't really do anything.
>>127463698
Thanks, this is helpful. I previously asked here >>127462043 about the lack of objectives. Did it ever feel particularly samey in that regard?
>>127463724
Here's one.
>>127465159
I'm waiting to try downgrading. Need a larger SD card anyway.
>>127464921
Marx is probably the closest thing to Ryoma Nohr has (from my experience at least) and he's not ridiculously broken. He won't pull a Ryoma and become an Astra Crit Monster with a buffed lightning version of Killing Edge.
Siegfried is a pretty good weapon and does a decent amount of damage, but you'll need to keep using Marx and stop him from slipping too far under the enemy levels if you want him to be useful, red beam shooting sword and all.
I'm kinda pissed that Yatogami doesn't have magical beam/projectile shooting properties.
>>127463724
>>127465159
I heard the words "brick" and "3DS" in the same sentence, fuck that shit, I can wait unless Treehouse really fucks the game and makes me desperate.Even then, I'd rather just import a 3DS and the game.
>>127465159
I didn't downgrade since I has an O3DS XL handy but if you can do it, you may as well.
>Get to play Fates early
>Region free
>No bullshit waiting for 3DS games to get released in Yurop if you're a Yuropfag
Plus free DLC, you can't be mad at that
>>127465480
>Yuffie
You'realright.
>>127465480
>shitty thief waifu
>>127464824
To be fair, it's almost like ISIS regretted adding Oboro's crush on Takumi to anything. She rarely mentions it in any capacity in the game, and isn't even included in her profile in the artbook.
Her gimmick is more about her disdain for Nohr and her love for materials and clothing, so you should've said
>le meme sewing girl
>>127463336
>everything about dub Marx
Mamma Mia...
So this...is the power...of not having otaku's make the seiyuu field competitive...
