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>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
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i haven't played this game in weeks
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>tfw want to do a quick smash and grab
>shit keeps happening just before I launch Payday

I just want to harass the locals, is that so much to ask?
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why are we still here
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>>127082225
Just to suffer?
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Mosconi so good
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>>127082225
We need our payday, too.
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And then, you BEAT THE FUCK OUT DAT BRUSH
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DONT DIE
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Do you know what happens when you fuck with Russia? Read your history books!
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>>127080435
Happy New Year /pdg/
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>>127080435
>last thread died without hitting bump limit

ded?
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happy new year ):
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I'm using Mindfug build with akimbo and sneaky bastard/low blow rogue perk deck and dodge because I haven't played in forever and it's what I used to use; does this still work or is other shit just way better now?
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>>127098827
It still works
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16th for OTP
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>>127081132
Best Crimefest II song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qToXtYHk5cQ
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>>127100786
i like these two
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>>127100982
That isn't Use of Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubNxqC2oFw
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>2016,
>Still no new's year update,

Ded game, ded devs, ded UAR, ded Crook perk deck.
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>>127101053
>tfw the Clover/Houston OTP is completely forgotten by the community
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>>127101680
Sokol is cuter than Clover
I want a rule 63 Sokol tbqh
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>>127101413
>no update the whole year so far
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Happy New Year's heisters! What are your New Year's heisting resolutions?

Mine's to never miss another day. Only Russian bots are allowed to malfunction.

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Wasn't Even There! (i_wasnt_even_there)
- Sniperino (any_25_sniper_kills)

Let's keep those helmets flying well into the new year! ;)
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>>127103924
Stop doing this shit, no one does sidejobs
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>>127103924
>Side jobs Bot,

You're just fucking weird Overkill_Jules.

>What are your New Year's heisting resolutions?

To give a chance to Rogue+hostage taker builds.

On an unrelated note, does stability boosts make a difference on the Whatever .357 or not ?
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>>127104372
I resolve to get gud
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MONACO Crossover when
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>>127099113
Everybody keeps hyping grinder and muscle deck builds now though, is that the go to?
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>>127105674
People got comfy with that, the weapon rebalance made a lot of stuff more interesting
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>>127103924
Thanks for the free crash Ovk.
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>>127106217
>being tricky
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>mfw seeing an infamous II sales hitter getting in custody twice on FF day 3 DW loud.

Where's your ecm god now ?
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>>127107610
not sure what i expected but i got something in the end.
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EVENT
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>>127111419
nice meme
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>i understand why the steam forums want this, it's tons of skins in this deal.
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>Simon's EP is finally out.
2016>2015 already
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>>127111646
>nothing new from OVK other than the Ashley giveaway
RIP
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>>127111646
Link to his Bandcamp because the Steam group's official event only links to the youtube preview: https://simonviklund.bandcamp.com/album/orbot

Spent like 10 minutes trying to navigate the steam community group before I realised he probably posted a link on his Twitter.
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NATO is BTL?
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>>127113539
It is. Enjoy your abominations.
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>Devs using laughing emojis,

JUST
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>17 concealment piglet on a masterfug build,

Would you ?
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>Get da fuck up,
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>>127114385
SMASH THAT RETWEET BUTTON SENPAI
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>>127115708
>not using gl40
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why the fuck this game doesn't have host migration
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>>127120014
>implying that the Valve system is in any way better,
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>new Dance of the Turbo Tribe
>new Hold on Tight
I wasn't prepared for this.
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>>127120014
I dont thing host migration is good idea for 4 player co-op the only game that I know of which did good is call of duty
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>>127120775
>>new hold on tight
>it's shit
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>>127103983
>no one does sidejobs
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Le balanced macaroni of free DW heists.
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>>127122706
Shit, wrong pic.
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>>127122706
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>>127122821
Daily reminder there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Moscovici and only salty ARfags are complaining about it.
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>there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Moscovici
I love this meme.
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Uh, this website here says, shitposting, got any of that?
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>>127126387
I put sode
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>>127094246
it's fucking holiday season, people are out celebrating and shit
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Is there any mods to be able to use the retarded laser of the legendary santa skin on a single Crosskill ?

I want to pretend to be Terminator on my Techforcer build.
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fuck
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>>127128347
>Normies
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>>127126387
*mains Hoxton*
SO U BE SAYIN
*shoots a hostage*
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
*puts up two turrets*
AAAYYYOOO SO U BE SAYIN
*closes a door on Hoxout*
U BE SAYIN
*upgrades drills to silent*
HOL UP HOL UP
*ignores the beeping computer*
AYYYOO U BE SAYIN
*spams chat with PocoHud*
SO U BE SAYIN
*presses the wrong tile*
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
*runs over downed teammates*
WE GON BE
*drives a car into a wall*
FINNA WE GON BE
*buys Spycams*
AYYYOO HOL UP WE GON BE
*pulls up flak jacket*
SO WE GON BE
*complains about dodgefags*
SO U SAYIN WE GON BE
*steals all the ammo*
SOM FINNA
*places a mine on a safe*
SO WE GON BE
*throws cards*
SOM FINNA
*wears the Death Wish skull*
AYYYOO SOM FINA
*asks if you're playing stealth*
HOL UP
*jokers your last hostage*
WE GON BE
*ziplines on loud H&T*
SOM FINNA
*bags all the engines*
WE GON BE
*aces The Professional*
SOM FINNA
*puts sode*
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYDEEEEEEEEEEEY GAAAAAAAAAAANG???
*kicks you*
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>>127130508
KEK
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>>127130134
>Faggots
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>>127106217
I used to do this to get the combined module each time.
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>>127130508
underrated post
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>>127130508
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okay
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>>127130101
ON THE GOD DAMN GROUND
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>>127131319
>mfw the only vanilla way to get Led Combo during the Hypetrain event was to complete the side jobs.

Shit was basically one weapon mod per week and you had to be lucky to get a "First line" challenge and not a Guessing game or FF day 3 stealth job. And fuck you if you desired to get more polymer light for your pistols, you would have to pray for rngesus to not laugh at you and give you another useless ported compensator.
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>>127125385
>mosconi is an unbalanced piece of shit.
i love this meme.
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get the fuck up
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>>127130508
That's so meta
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HEY DON'T KILL HOSTAGES
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>>127140252
>those glasses
mod?
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>>127141190
I think those are regular wick glasses
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>>127142645
yeah but dragan shouldn't be able to wear them then
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>>127142821
afaik there's a wick glasses mask in the game, it's just hidden in the options and undroppable
any character can use it though, you just gotta put it in your inventory
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>tfw you know you're not gonna have a fun game
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I believe the PC community for this is supposed to be the best of all the communities.
I played this a lot on PS4 and have just got a PC built to be able to play games better than my usual crappy laptops.
Problem is having to level my character all over again so any advice on how to level quickly or are there people out there willing to let me join in on Houston's Breakout on a high difficulty to get a high amount of exp quickly?
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>>127143663
That or Hotline Miami
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>>127143795
Yeah or that, I did buy all the DLC to go with it so that shouldn't be an issue for me.
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>>127143663
>any advice on how to level quickly,

Stealth a Jewelry store DW job. It's really easy and you get like 20-30 levels in the process, not counting the pocket money to help you in the process,

Hoxton's breakout is only good in terms of money, it sucks on PC for the xp. Aftershock or Rats (if you're cooking 7 bags) are much more quick and rewarding.

Come into the chat of the steam group if you need an hand for your games,
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>>127143663
>tfw you'll never experiment the 42 damage / 18 accuracy / 25 stability Car-4 from 2014 ever again,
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>>127143663
Just play the game with a focus on heists like Rats, Afterschock, Cockston Memeout
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>Assault rifles were nerfed to force their users to move on like everyone else has.
>Instead now they're just bitching about shotguns.
Disapprovingly nodding my head from right to left.
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>>127145280
AR can be fine, you just need to go for the best weapon mods so they can get good accuracy and stability at the same time.

RIP for the Valkyria though, it's fucked beyond any help.
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>Tackle ready ?
>Tackle ready.
>Shitposting ready ?
>i'm ready.
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Does the UAR finally have a good hipfire spread now with the rebalance update ?
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Daily reminder the Car-4 is still on top of the Assault Rifle competition.
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http://www.lastbullet.net/r/jan3/
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>>127153487
What does it mean?
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>>127153726
Something related since the interview with Almir and the 10k dollars offered to the Lastbullet site that's for sure..
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>>127153073
>16 accuracy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvKXUbxj0U
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>>127154325
epic video maria I give the tumb up
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>mfw seeing people using the predator 12G without enforcer's skills.
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>tfw going drills and lockpick
>tfw play clover and host
>everyone gets annoyed I stole their waifu and am useless.
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>>127154325
>heatstreet.gif
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>>127155506
>mfw seeing people using the predator 12G
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>>127154325
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>>127103924
>>127103983
>>127104372
>>127106217
Hello heisters! The first set of side jobs of 2016 are in!

Today's Side Jobs are:
- Build A Raft Of Shields (any_25_shield_kills)
- Doctor Fantastic (doctor_fantastic)

Once again, Happy New Years and keep those helmets flying! ;)
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Letting this thread die
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>>127162482
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GOTTA GET A GRIP
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>>127162482
With NO SURVIVORS
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Should I bother with the Point Break DLC, Overkill?
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>>127164669
You should wait to buy it when it's not on sale, and make sure you go out to the theater to watch Point Break in theaters.
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>>127164669
Wait for sale
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>>127159453
Where the fuck is the monthly

It's been a month technically
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>>127166686
Monthly came out on the 17th though with the We Do It Live! achievement.
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>>127166846
>Not giving us a new monthly job every 2 weeks to make it a bigger thing
They suck
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>>127143502
Carrying newbies is kind of fun if they are at least a little bit capable. Use the lobby player info mod if you are interested in what your crew is using in terms of perks and skills. I can see why people don't want to install stuff like pocohud, but some mods are just straight upgrades for the experience without introducing anything that can be considered unfair.
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Is this really what Overkill wanted?
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>>127168836
This is what Overkill wanted.
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>>127168836
>Forced to change even the "PAYDAY THE HEIST" troll mask
Feels good
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>>127169581
Who even claimed the copyright? Memes.Inc?
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>>127169939
Yes
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>>127169939
The guy who made the original comic
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>>127168836
Memes were a mistake
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>get the game
>buy the wild west dlc
>sad wild west classic is locked behind something
>Throw some tnt around a few games
>Achieve unlocked
>get the mask
el benito burrito senior
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>>127171290
Most excellent story, broheim!
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>Overkill Slaughterhouse
>went infamous yet again so I'm only level 47 on a dodge build
>play a little riskier because I'm not horseshit and try to get the decoy container going before we even move all the gold
>literally 3 bulldozers and 2 cloakers dedicated just to me after I activate the decoy container
>get downed
>"wtf why'd you rush"
>"should have put on armor retard"
>
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>>127173591
You are horseshit
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>>127172024
Sorry I haven't played the game long enough to be jaded about it yet.
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>>127171290
>ywn be retarded enough to unlock the Lone Heister

Shame really, I like the simple look of it
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Once it's isolated, hit it and boost that sweet meme. Au yeah.
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Someone give me a rational explanation as to why so, so many low leveled players insist on joining First World Bank and Slaughterhouse.

What the fuck.
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>>127174674
Probably fags of the PD:TH
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>>127174674
Because its fun?
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Is there a way to turn off the Christmas lighting effect? It's hard to customize masks properly if you can't see what color they are.
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>>127174792
>>127174734
Neither of these are realistic explanations.
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>>127174674
It's starting to piss me off, too. I play any other heist and I get plenty of infamous teammates, but as soon as I touch slaughterhouse it's this weird clusterfuck of retarded lv. 20-50 players that do nothing but get downed and ask why you're wearing a suit.
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>>127175019
It IS fun though
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>>127175304
So are other heists, neither of the classics are special.
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Sniper! Building!
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>>127174215
If I knew the best way to spawn dozer for sure in offline I'd just try and farm it all day. Alas I do not.
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RIP steam group
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my new years resolution is to put sode
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>>127179128
The sticky dissuaded me, that and the flagrant fallout spoilers
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>promised crew i would heist
>instead got distracted watching videos of people making tiny food for 3 hours
aw nuts
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>>127080678
I've unisntalled this peice of shit.

never felt better.
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>>127186360
Then why the fuck you are here fucking shitter
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>unlock an achievement, oh that's cool
>It unlocked a mask
>I can't get it because its lock behind a dlc I don't own, but the achieve wasn't
The hell kind of nonsense is this?
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>>127186654
You dont own the DLC so you dont have the rights to use his rewards
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I want to play dw loud but currently I'm not good enough, and I don't want to join dw games because they'll rightly kick me for being a shitter who can't play on dw. How do I git gud? ovk isn't hard enough to improve me a and soling isn't much fun.
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>>127173591
should have put on armor retard
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>>127174674
3rd world PD:TH poorfags finally making the jump to PD2.
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>>127188097
>soling isn't much fun.
You know you're not good enough but you don't want to practice by yourself to improve your skills.

What
A
Dilemma
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>>127194090
Achievements for doing a heist on OVK solo or harder when
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>>127188097
Start with short and easy loud DWs. Ones with low bag counts to deal with to lessen the attention you have to pay to objectives.

UK Job
H&Ts (aka. Bank Heists, probably Deposit first)
Four Stores
Nightclub
Mallcrasher

are my suggestions.

Then once you are comfortable with jumping into random DW pubs of those heists to do them loud, you move onto harder heists.

Rats / Cook Off
Firestarter
Breaking Bank
First World Bank
Big Bank
Transports
etc.

The only way to get better is to practice practice practice. If you don't want to listen to people yell at you for fucking up, you gotta practice by yourself.

Back in my day, when people were still DS FS Rats grinding, it really, really sucked to get successful lobbies going because everybody's a stealthshitter who keeps fucking up Diamond Stores, wants to stealth the airport hangars, always fucks up H&Ts on FS Day 3, and makes cooking 7 bags a tedious multi-try chore.

So I got gud.
I learned to solo that shit on PrOVK.
I spent many hours failing and failing and learning all the possible things that make me fail, make the bots fail, where every single fucking Cloaker and sniper spawn is.

Then I got bored and upgraded to DW to repeat the process.
I fucked up lots of lobbies.
I succeeded in lots of lobbies.
Then I started carrying lots of lobbies.

When everybody's shitposting with "git gud" responses, it is basically a condensed half-serious response of "put in the effort to getting better because there isn't a magical trick that lets you do well". We just get sick of repeating ourselves over and over again with the same response nobody reads and/or takes seriously because they want an easy way out, not the truth.

We have autists on YouTube doing solo loud DWs with no skills, and stock AMCARs and Chimano 88s. You think they can do that because they're born super pro? They probably put in dozens of hours if not hundreds to master that shit.

tl;dr - git gud
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>>127170276
Grinder was a mistake,
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>>127197936
PD2 was a mistake.
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>has one of the biggest ammo pool and best reload time available,
>can get 40 damage easily,
>doesn't need any paid dlc mod, making it good for your games and your wallet,

Daily reminder that the CMP is one of the meta smg that Overkill secretly hates,
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>>127197936
Grinder is a Good Perk Deckâ„¢
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>>127199814
Grinder is a YEAH perk deck.
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>i'm saving to buy a ranch in montana
what did he mean by this?
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>>127199278
>40 dmg being a meaningful threshold
>not 90 or at the very least 80

niceme.me
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>>127204250
>laughing at the 40 damage breakpoint,

Post black-market baby spotted, if only you knew how much people had to pray to get a 40 damage smg in the old days,
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>>127179128
Rip car shop
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>>127173591
Daily reminder that anyone being under 500 hours, using ecm or suit deserved to be kicked from high level jobs,
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I just sold a fucking deagle skin for 9 dollars with a drill from a card drop.

Are the skins really that bad?
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>>127211635
>being this autistic
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>>127211709
Not really, especially since they made the stat boost free. People are just pissed that Overkill wanted to release even more paid content on an event celebrating free stuff and shit.

Most of the skins are ugly although the bodhi skins can be stylish at times.
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>tfw Overkill introduce QTE elements into the game
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>>127213945
You mean holding S and mashing M1 when a cloaker appears?
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>people think their shitty SMGs are "secret OP" or even "relevant"
L E L
E
L
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>>127216153
Please don't nerf me Overkill
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Good afternoon /pdg/

I posted yesterday regarding that I played a lot of PD2 on PS4 and have finally invested in a PC built to play games and wondered if anyone is free to help me level up a few times and get some cash together?

I know normally the best mission for cash is the breakout on high difficulty but wondered if anyone is free?
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>>127217342
Post steam id.
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>>127179105
Host offline meltdown and check the containers, there is always one that has a dozer in it. Skull on DW, Saiga on ovk and very hard and green on hard. There may not be one on normal, but I'm not entirely sure.
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>>127217342
Breakout is fun, but takes too long to say it's good for farming. Aftershock is really short an easy and gives a very good amount of XP and money. Rats and cookoff are still great and I personally like White Christmas since pubs are less likely to fuck up, its fun and the payoff is good as well.
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>>127218246
>White Christmas with pubs
This is almost as bad as the bomb: forest. Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>127217342
santas workshop is almost impossible to fuck up and gives max money/xp

just restart till all the elves are next to each other
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>>127213945
>Enter a random 26 key combination whenever a Cloaker charges you or he instantly sends you into custody instead of just downing you.
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>>127220612
>Press X to dodge cloaker
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>>127217965
exactly what I did.
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What's the best build that uses the LBV? I'm experimenting with a Crook build that includes aced Berserker, so you're pretty vulnerable, but you also dish out a lot of damage. Maybe something with Grinder? I've seen people using ExPres with Bulletproof and the LBV but I don't know if it's any good.
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>>127205298
Yep
>smgshitters
>b-but muh weapon l-legit and v-viable!1
>can't even 1shot anything worth shooting at on any difficulty at all
nice ammo efficiency
nice ttk
niceme.me
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>>127188097
Get grinder
Get mosconi
Get HE Judge
Now carry all shitters on DW
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How do I into mosconi?
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>>127217342
>ask for help,
>doesn't post ID,

i hate this. Also breakout a shit for farming.
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>>127221752
Just take Shotgun impact aced, Shotgun CQB and Overkill both basic. You don't need more to be good.
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>>127221993
You don't need Overkill basic with the Mosconi, nor with the Joceline.
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>>127221993
What's better having
>inspire + overkill but no crits
>inspire + crits but no overkill
>overkill + crits but no inspire
I think the second option is all around the best
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>>127222242
Yeah, if you're going Overkill basic you might as well use the Reinfeld or Loco instead.
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>>127222421
Inspire is useless. If they go down, they don't deserve to be helped. If you insist on helping them, just kill everything around them.
Hell, if you can't res a pubby with grinder, nerves of steel, sneaky bastard, duck and cover, swan song aced, etc, you must be really fucking bad.
Why would you waste 50 points in the Mastercuck tree anyway?
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>>127222783
>Inspire is useless.
Spoken like someone who has always had someone else with Inspire running with them.
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>>127223008
>Going down ever
baka desu senpai
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On White Christmas, do the presents keep spawning if I don't pick them up? Should I ever find some sort of invincible camping point, can I just leave the game afk for a few hours and get all the presents at once?
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>>127222783
>inspire is useless
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>>127223249
>going afk in a police assault,

sure, i mean what could go wrong ?
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>>127223561
>he doesn't know how broken AI/detection is
I'm not even sure the "crouch and look up with back to a wall" was ever patched.
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Going masterfug with the mosco is kinda retarded tho. You have to skip either shotgun CQB which is almost mandatory, or Bullseye which is great on Grinder.
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>>127223868
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSLhjeFGBCDa:ekHIjEDa:gECda:froKhIEfGbCa:ibcdea:::
you can still have shotgun cqb I don't know about bullseye I never use it
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>>127223868
>there are people who still don't realise the beauty of a CQC Clarion Rifle with maxed concealment.
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>>127226425
>2016
>assault rifles
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What a time to be alive
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How's the Joceline shotgun? I absolutely love it's design but don't want to spend money on shit weapon.
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>>127229945
Mosconi is better
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>>127230013
But is it a good weapon?
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>>127230130
Yes it's like joceline but better
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>>127229945
It's pretty great, mosconi is very similar and only slightly better if you disregard concealment. But if you think it's cool, there is no reason to not use it.
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Know what I miss? Being level 100 for even one heist.
25 levels of infamy is a fucking joke. Can't wait for 3.0 to force me to take it all the way to 100.

>no one's forcing you to do it, anon
Autism and achievements are, faggots.
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>>127222783
>Why would you waste 50 points in the Mastercuck tree anyway?
Because bow/silenced baby deagle Master Ghofugi build is based as fuck.
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CALL THE THE CLOVER SMOKER
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>2016
>can't have a secondary weapon as your primary
I dream of being able to use Kross Vertex and the Bernetti in the same build.
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Is it still possible for new players to get FWB and Slaughter safes or their timers are over already ?
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>>127232847
I'm pretty sure they're unlockable by their achievements Au Ticket and Pork Royale.
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>>127232847
Two sale guys I was playing with got theirs last week, so it's probably still going on.
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>>127233183
k nevermind, i must have imagined it.
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>carry stacker mod
>not a hack
>just can carry a lot of bags

Are all XXV-100 players this delusional?
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>>127233656
Daily reminder that BLT users are cheaters and deserves all to get kicked on sight.
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>>127199278

>CMP

That's not the Krinkov.
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>mw that the barrel of the Gimp legendary minigun doesn't even spin correctly when fired,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vz7ddx3M4k
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>>127223249
>On White Christmas, do the presents keep spawning if I don't pick them up?
What do you think happens to the boxes? Do you think they'll just sit around and stack up? No.
>Should I ever find some sort of invincible camping point
No such thing.
>can I just leave the game afk for a few hours and get all the presents at once?
I doubt you'll make it to the chopper with all the bags even if it were possible. We all know you just want to turn on PP and go afk. Might as well just bagdump into the chopper if you're going to cheat.
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>>127236146
Well the RPG skin doesn't have a unique projectile model, and the Flamethrower one doesn't even have a third person model.

Overkill really put a lot of love and care into these skins.
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>>127232285
>bow and deagle
>based
I want this pistol meta to end.
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>>127080678
Haven't launched the game since BMU. feelsgoodman.tiff
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>>127236158
>No such thing.

Not on that map, at least.
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>>127237931
Seriously how is deagle brand deagle meta preferable to the meta4? At least it made sense that an assault rifle was pretty good at killing.
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>>127237931

Crossbow / Krinkov, my man
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>Deagle
>Meta
That's not the mosconi though.
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>>127211963
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>>127236146
Minigun barrel spinning only appears to be static at a certain FPS.
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>>127223868
Bullseye is nowhere near a mandatory skill.

I personally don't even bother with SB on loud DWs these days.
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I'm getting ready to infamy
Can someone tell me the best build to be optimal as a techie?
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>>127241356
+140 damage,
>100 accuracy,
>can get a sight on top of it for comfier ADS,

Let's face it, it's as much broken as the macaroni.
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>>127244251
Learn to read, dumbass.
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>>127244963
The one with zero points.
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>>127245201
The post said Bullseye is "good with Grinder" and put it in the same sentence as "Shotgun CQB is almost mandatory" which means the poster clearly thought it was worth bringing up so they think it's also "almost" mandatory or close, while also saying that it's worth more than running a Mosconi for a shotgun masterfug build.

I know how to read. The poster needs to learn to play without useless placebos like Bullseye.
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>>127245218
T-thanks
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>you can now put a milspec scope on your long-barrel Mosconi,

Yes or no ?
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What's with the new meme of shitposting about the Mosconi.
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>>127246562
When a shotgun can get very high damage and concealment while still keeping a good ammo pool and even benefitting from critical hits if modded in the right way , it's understandable people are asking question about the balance in this game.
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>>127246562
Newkids who weren't here before Spring Break thinking it's OP.
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Krinkov > Swedish Cuck
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>>127115708
Only if I have lots of crowds to control and small areas to defend.
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>>127247891
>need ammo pls
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>>127244963
>techie
no
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>>127248680
>he doesn't lock his krinkov in single-fire mode.
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>>127249330
>using single-shit
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>>127249596
>muh tap fire
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>>127217342
>>127217342
>>127217508
>>127221902
Sorry guys had to go out until now so couldn't respond. Steam name is Anfraxx_ With Hulk as a display picture, managed to get to 50 in pub games but that was your usual shoot first and get all the cops every time.
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>>127249863
We want your ID, not your display name.

Why is this such a hard distinction for most people?
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>>127249863
Your ID is your profiles URL

like steamcommunity .com/somedude
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>>127244963
>tfw I went techie and ghost for c4/and lockpicking
>run gambler on top of it.
If I'm going to be useless, I'm going to be the most useless.
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>>127250445
>>127250941
/id/anfraxxkills
not me posting for him
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>>127249863
>/v/ steam group
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Look
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>tfw hearing genmcfatass saying the krinkov is OP
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>>127256207
Doesn't he know the current meme is to pretend the Mosconi is OP?
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