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'EU got shafted REALLY HARD' edition.

Wikias:
http://therunefactory.wikia.com/wiki/Rune_Factory_Wiki
http://harvestmoon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.fogu.com/

Story of Seasons Stuff
http://fogu.com/sos1/
http://pastebin.com/qs9441v8 (embed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uzfx84FBSY50B_mLKDweztBBvbcsA8lzXXSRvOrUVlg/edit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJAHbfCCha37NPdyzgOQzNQTX-Q2OHRXPWao-gN1AG8/


RF4 Resources (READ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
http://pastebin.com/BHaEUT7d (embed)
>[NOTICE: The recipe for the "OP wand" is incorrect. The correct order is Dragon Bones, then Rainbow Waterpot.]

Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny FAQ
http://pastebin.com/u8HieaPW (embed)

Marvelous AQL made the Bokujo Monogatari series, localized in the west as Harvest Moon until Bokujo Monogatari: Tsunagaru Shin Tenchi, which will be published by XSeed games as Story of Seasons.

Natsume owns the name Harvest Moon and made Harvest Moon: The Lost Valley, which is unrelated to Bokujou Monogatari.

Forbidden Magna has been released in North America, Europe, and Australia as "Lord of Magna: Maiden Heaven".

Harvest Moon: Seeds of Memories is scheduled to be released in the fourth quarter of 2015.

Return to PoPoLoCrois: A Story of Seasons Fairytale is scheduled to be released in North America in the fourth quarter of 2015.

Story Of Seasons's EU was released on 31st December, 2015.

Old thread: >>126467243
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1st for happy new years
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>not Lillie is a loli edition
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>>127058123

>looks really young
>looks

She's the weathergirl for a major channel. Where do you get 14-year old weathergirls?

Apparently, she's studying meteorology on some school alongside her job as an idol/weathergirl, so what are you on about?
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Tbh I just really like Lillie cause she's cute and almost spills as much spaghetti as forte.
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>>127057227
Both Iris and Kamil have very flat characters (in my opinion..). It's not as if there's a dearth of things to give them character, either, there's just nothing there. Kamil is especially egregious because he was already in a game before, but he retains barely any of that personality other than his florist shtick. Agate at least is charismatic and has likable qualities
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>>127058265
>problematic

Also I hope everyone else thinks jschreier's post is full of bullshit. I hope.
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>>127058859

She's the spaghetti queen.

I should assert that there's no loli-bait in SoS. Only shota-bait, and that's Mistel.

Lillie's pretty stacked. At least behind Licorice and ahead of Angela and Agate in the rankings.
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>>127058265

Made the thread before reading about loli Lillie. Sorry about that.
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>>127058556
I wasn't saying she was 14, I was saying she LOOKS 14. That's a turn-off for me, so I'd rank her as the worst wiafu, because I'd feel weird about her appearance if I pursued her. Obviously, >>127058265 the guy in this pic is stupid as fuck, because that's obviously a grown woman, not a loli.

I didn't mean to trigger so many autists, so I'll stop posting about this now so the thread doesn't get derailed.
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>>127059630
>posting about HM is derailing
Nah dude, keep it up. Controversy leads to discussion or being made fun of and that leads to the thread being alive. Waifuposting is always going to lead to this kind of stuff.

Also, Angela is worst waifu by far. Not just because of her glasses either, but she's also boring. Being coyly lewd isn't enough to save her from being bottom-of-the-barrel.
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>>127060108
Are you really saying Angela is worse than iris
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>>127059160

ay, u that bloke whos talkin shit about my waifu the afore thread?

ya gunna say dat tu my face bruh. gonna bash ur fookin head in m8. hook u in da gabber i will, sware on me mum
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>>127060592
I trust Iris the least of all the villagers. Her and her brother are both snakes, I place trash in front of the Antique Shop whenever I'm in town and they can't do shit about it because the game doesn't count it as littering
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>>127060563

Well, Iris is stringing you along because of trust issues.. She admits it in one of her events. Obviously, you need to fight back by rejecting her advances.
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>>127059630
The guy in the post in that pic is also full of shit because he thinks sexy = objectification. I think xseeddude once made a post explaining why sexualization isn't always sexist.

ANYWAY, best SoS waifu is either Elise or Iris to me.
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>>127060108
I'd prefer a slow thread full of good discussion/content as opposed to a fast thread full of shitposting.

To spark some discussion/wiafufagging, who's your all time favorite wiafu/husbando from any bokumo game? For me, it's pic related. I found her optimism really endearing. It's the simplest wiafus that have the most charm.
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What did he mean by this?

>>127060108
>Not just because of her glasses either
Are you trying to say that the glasses make her look worse?

>>127059630
>I wasn't saying she was 14, I was saying she LOOKS 14. That's a turn-off for me, so I'd rank her as the worst wiafu
I understand and respect that(hell i feel the same way about amber in rf4), but I don't get singling out Lillie for it.
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>>127061136
Yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. A character can be a sexual woman without it being a sexist portrayal. It's all in the execution of it. I think a lot of 'feminists' just think sex is bad for whatever personal reason, and just leap on anything with sexual themes and brand it 'problematic'.

>>127061279
I dunno, maybe I'm just weird, but she looks very young to me. I feel the same way about Mistel and Lumina from AWL:SE. There's probably other instances of this in HM, but that's all I've played recently so that's all that comes to mind.
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>>127061948
SJWs and the like are just like Puritans -- sexy is bad to them, but for different reasons. To Puritans, it's because lust is a sin. To SJWs and the like, it's because lust is "problematic."
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>>127061279
Oh shit, you can court a loli and have her bear your children in SoS?
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>>127061279
>Are you trying to say that the glasses make her look worse?
Absolutely. Glasses are garbage-tier, almost as bad as "beauty" marks.

>>127063590
Unfortunately best girl is can't have, as usual.
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>>127064893
>Glasses are garbage-tier

What the fuck is wrong with you. How can someone have taste this bad?

Glasses are almost always an improvement.
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>>127065085
>Glasses are almost always an improvement.
I'd say more like 50/50. But Angela is def an improvement.
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>>127064893
I share this view on glasses, which is weird because my husbando is Arthur
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>>127064893
Read that as "Is there anyone in town that you don't have a crush on?"

>sweating intensifies
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This looks like that anime picture where the girls mouth is level with her eyes Jesus God
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How do I get Veronica and Fritz to stop opening my gate and letting my animals out? They're doing this shit on purpose.
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>>127068120
Changing where the gate is. That's the only way as far as I know. Then they'll just walk into the fence for an hour.
I never really had a problem with the animals getting out though. It really doesn't do them much good anyway, and until you get a dog to train its a pain as well
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>>127068120
I got rid of the gate entirely, and just fenced the whole thing in. Animals can't get out, and it doesn't stop me or the dogs from handling the livestock.
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>>127061213
Laney from ToTT. No one ever mentions her, everyone likes Licorice or that hippy chink. :^(
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>>127068854
Alright will probably do this when I renovate the farm.

>walk outside from my sewing building
>Fritz is just standing in the open gate staring off into nothing like the retard he is
Fuck Fritz. He's worse than Doug.
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What the hell is the deal with the cooking festival in SOS? Is it based on complexity not star rank?
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>>127069503
The fall Cooking Exhibit where you can cook a 6 piece meal if you want? It's the star rank, and the difficulty is weighted depending upon the year you're in.
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>>127069985
It's probably that I'm in a later year, then... I have terrible luck and have passed out on both year 1 and 2 cooking festivals (this was before I learned my lesson of saving every day)
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>>127070438

Theme is important if you're going the full course route. Western theme gets the least bonus while exotic the greatest.

You have greater chances in the single dish contest, but you increase a rank on 6 dish types in full course.
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>>127069503
Are you using secret ingredients?
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>>127070938
I see, thanks
>>127071031
Yeah I was
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>>127065085
I'm onto you, notArthur.
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I am going to marry Elise and become a power couple that will eventually own all of Oak Tree.
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>move into this new town
>all these fuckers say the exact same thing anytime I talk to them
>think they're mocking me
>stupid japanese cultural isolationism
>"HEY WE HAVEN'T TALKED IN A WHILE"
fuck SoS
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>>127073576
I literally only talked to Elise (waifu), Dessie (to give offerings to get shit), and whomever I needed to conduct business with on that day by the end of the game.

Didn't see much point to befriending the others.
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>>127073372
If you make Elise really mad, does she try to headbutt you?
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>>127074305

You naturally befriend them when you attend festivals. Even bachelorettes increase their flower levels even though you give them gifts rarely, as long as you're never absent in a festival (Elise is at red flower, only gave her gifts once a year).

The real bitch to befriend are the Harvest Sprites. Dessie and Witche are ok, but these fuckers are hard to see in an area, and don't appear on the map. I only manage to talk to Torque and that fat one since they're on the way when I make my rounds, but that hick girl, the hot blodded one and the red one are hard to pinpoint.
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>>127074305
There's usually a small prize for befriending certain villagers, such as patterns, recipes, events, etc.

All of your farming rivals have events, plus a few random villagers do. You always get slightly better dialogue too, which doesn't mean much but whatever.
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>>127058265
>>127061948
>>127063275
I think that Kotaku guy is projecting -- he says that the character is designed to appeal to lolicon and draw focus on the boobs to the point where her character doesn't matter. and that jiggle physics "demeaning and embarrassing." I think that's just how he sees her. Which means he could be pretty messed up in the head and thinks sexuality is shameful.

>>127073576
So you're saying they say the same crap over and over, and if you don't talk to them, it's "hey we haven't talked in awhile?"
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>>127075596
I followed them all around to see what they do, they will all stand near Witchie's house in the morning and late afternoon (6pm~), they disappear at night. If you want to catch them, run out and talk to them as soon as you wake up.

The red one will wander back and forth between Witchie's house and Piedmont if he's not by her house.

Three of them will stand in the three fields connected to Witchie's house besides Riverside Pasture.

The hot-blooded one usually stands near the river in Riverside pasture or wanders between the two fields there.
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>>127075596
Don't even bother talking to them. It's literally useless. Dessie and Witchie give you things for raising their FP (and Dessie gives you stuff for giving her offerings as well) but the harvest sprites don't even have special lines for when you give them their favorite item on their birthday (unlike everyone else) so it does seem like there's no point to befriending them
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>>127074305
You've got an extremely good taste.
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>page 10
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>>127076097

Bretty gud info. Thanks mate.
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Its about to be 2016 and instead of partying and getting drunk, Im playing a farm simulator on an electronic device for kids. Jesus christ
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>>127080846
We live in a shitty world, anon.
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>>127080846
Maybe I am making excuses for my nonexistent social life but Christmas/New Years just feels like another day and I would much rather be playing video games or watching movies.
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>>127080984
>>127080846
Although I dont think the 3DS/DS is only for kids.
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>>127080984
>>127081772
>>127081825

I got food, so it was an okay New Year to me. Eating suckling pig and ham with bread and cheese all the way to New Year is bliss.
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>he does't believe he has hoards of fangirls that want exactly this
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Woo woo 2016 is here.
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>>127083182
It's still about 3 1/2 hours to go here.

>>127083089
True, there's still some good parts to it. At least we're not in North Korea, Syria, or Somalia.
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>>127059630
>I'm wrong so I'll insult the people who are right, and it will end the conversation in a positive for me

Not really how it works.
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>>127081825
Yeah, there are a lot of porn games on the DS.
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>>127084908
>porn games

Depends on how you define "porn."

Anyway, such as?
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>>127083182
It's 2016 and I've yet to marry Dolce
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>>127086195
I'll try and see if I can find them again, I think they were all Japanese games though.
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Do people seriously like Dolce that much? The butterfly was way better.
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>>127088438
Butterfly is too young for me, Shoe is shoe, Forte is weird and Clorica is narcoleptic. Margaret is close to Dolce but she has weird clothes, so that's a no, too. Thus Dolce gets a unanimous victory. Because Dragon can't be married
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>>127089058
>Forte is weird

Hence why she is best waifu.
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>>127089058
I think I like the guys more than the girls in this game.
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>>127089058
As a narcoleptic, fuck you for discounting narcoleptics just because we pass out at weird times and don't remember stuff that happened sometimes
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>>127088438
I knew that I'd love her as soon as I saw her.
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>>127092076
whatever why don't you go fall asleep or something
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>>127092076
Can narcoleptics do elaborate stuff in their sleep?
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Fritz? Fritz what are- Fritz stop inspecting the gate. Please stop inspecting the gate for 30 minutes every night, I can do that myself. Was going to wait for the "farm expansion" to redo everything but I think I'll remove the gate now.

>>127090362
Yup.
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SoS friends, is Licorice worth saving my purity for or will I be disappointed?
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Some beautiful day I'll have enough wealth to build myself a kitchen. My character hasn't eaten anything for almost a month
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>really really want wedding anniversary to be on Spring 1
>make everyone in the village get up to go to the wedding even though they're all probably exhausted from staying up late on New Year's Eve
Eat shit everyone
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>>127088438
Used to like Shoe when I first started playing, and then when I came back later Dolce really grew on me.
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>>127096719
She's worth it
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It'll be a long road to woo Elise, but it will be worth it! Wedding planned for the best season - Winter
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>>127096543
My first impression of Iris: bitch was talking to some old dude in his house.
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>>127096719
I don't know, but I do know she became a contender after her second event. Now Elise has to fight four girls for MC.
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Happy New Year from Phoenix, AZ, /rfhmg/!

>>127095114
That was my last post of 2015.
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>>127088438
Even though I don't like her design much, she doesn't feel as one-dimensional as the other characters, and Pico is perfect. Margaret is the only other one that comes close to having a personality instead of a single trait, but fuck elves.
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I'm in my first year, late Spring. What should I do with the little money I earn? SoS
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>>127101259
Seedmaker is top priority, if you haven't gotten that already.

If you need more money, just savescum when diving in the river near Eda's farm. Only save when you get a gem, a pearl, or a fish fossil. That makes for a big chunk of change, you've got got to invest some irl time in reloading over and over.
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>>127101259
Make sure to save five turnip seeds for the seedmaker recipe. It's essential.
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>>127057582
>'EU got shafted REALLY HARD' edition.
What?
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>>127102539
See >>127053605
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>>127100224
Marry Dolce, and you get two for the price of one!
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>>127103726
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>>127105183
Apple time.
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Fritz and Doug fusing into a single terrible person when?
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>>127107618
>Fritz even being close to the asshole that is Doug

Ask again when Fritz killing Eda for revenge becomes a plot point
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>>127109154
I still haven't even tried dating in this game.
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>>127109549
You should give it a shot, you might actually like it.
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>>127110754
But I don't know who I want to date.
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>>127110905
Which game are you playing and which gender? I will be your love guru and guide you or something.
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>>127110905
There's no point in rushing things. Take it slow and easy
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>>127110905
The answer is all of them.

Dating in RF4 is unique.
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>>127110984
Rune Factory 4, Male
I've completed quite a few of the town events (which I hear are required for marriage or something). I'm also on the third arc if that matters.
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>on new years you can be a "cheap ass" to luna or noel
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>>127111449
Your in a tough spot because all of the girls are great in 4. Just keep doing the events until one of them clicks.
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>>127112375
>Tfw no nancy ntr route
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>>127057582
>not just copying it and making your own pastebin fixing the one recipe
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>>127114760
I still think that's one of the best RF4 fanart.
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>tfw no elf gf to give me free elf fruit she keeps stashed in her music room and house
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>>127119461
>ooh, new slumber party art
>oh...

Pico seems really off.
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>>127119461
>Margaret looks like a man in drag.
How fitting.
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>>127120306
For a second there I thought she had a really big right arm.
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>>127122743
Me too. My guess is Tumblritis or Deviant Art Syndrome.
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>>127122309
Aw, come on, I'm sure her music doesn't suck that bad.
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>>127127361
If Forte is like seibah, then is Pico like that one loli that drains energy by kissing?
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What's the easiest way to get up a country's customer points? Just spamming requests?
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>>127129587

Tea Party is 1,000/all once per year
Quests are 7 per quest, unlimited
Buying/selling gives a fixed 20 points per merchant once a day

You're honestly better off just sleeping through a few years if you're trying to unlock something at the 5k+ level
You'll lose town friendship points but those don't matter once you unlock the handful of items dependent on them
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>MC crossdresses for the day
>never remark on it, some even compliment you

Oak Tree Town is progressive.
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>>127135685
You can crossdress in SoS?
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>>127135857

Except for the faces, which are genderlocked, all hairstyles, clothing and hats are fair game.
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>>127136342
Nothing says farming like wearing a dress as a dude.
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>>127059630
>I wasn't saying she was 14, I was saying she LOOKS 14.
Did you ever play Sunshine Islands? It was impossible to actually like any of the waifu/husbando choices because they all looked 8 years old.
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>>127136875
How is that a turn off?
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>no spanking in the HM games
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>>127138154
Don't be like that.
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>>127139246
Why don't you have a seat over there?
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I have started the Rune Factory Series just recently with RF4 and I have some questions:
1. How does fertilizer work? Do you just keep feeding it grass and weed(lol 420) and it'll increase your soil quality? Or do I have to actually get fertilizer from it and apply it to the fields? And does a fertilizer bin work for only one field or for multiple fields (like the one near your home and the others outside of town.)
2. How much square tiles do trees need to grow?
3. Does giving gifts to one person multiple times in one day decrease in effectiveness at that same day? Does giving the same gift overtime lose effectiveness gradually?
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>>127140096
Oh wait I just realized there was FAQ in the pastebin. My bad.
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>>127140096

>1
Increases star rank of crops. You buy fertilizer or make your own. You can use it on many fields as you like, though I would recommend against it since materials for it are scarce, and Otmar sells between 1-20 per day (in Original mode).

>2
1 plot per tree.

>3
You can only give gifts once a day. And no.
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>>127138561
In AWL and AnWL you can pimp slap your kid for talking back to your spouse, but that's about it for corporeal punishment in the series. Honestly though, hitting your kids is pretty ghetto, I don't know why you'd want that in your comfy farming simulator.

I'd recommend playing AWL/AnWL if you haven't, though, It's easily the most fleshed out child rearing system we've ever gotten in a Harvest Moon game.
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>>127143171

>hitting kids
>ghetto

Corporal punishment is normal in Asian countries. Guess where this game came from?
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>>127143171
A slap is a good way to remind someone they're doing it wrong.
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>>127144105
Slapping a child is a good way to teach them that violence is an appropriate problem-solving method.
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>>127144723
I want tumblr to leave.
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>>127142086
Wrong game

Idk. It doesn't raise the soil level but i think it slows its decay, meaning you can grow crops consecutively without the crops taking longer to grow. But I'm probably wrong on this front. It is an automatic process however.

Trees take up one space

Once a day
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>>127146108

Right. Just reread it again.

Embarrassing.
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>>127144723
You're a really funny guy.
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>>127143171
I wasn't talking about spanking the kids.
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>>127148090
Ohohoho.

It would be nice if we got some Harvest Moon H action, but it's marketed as a kid's game, so I doubt we'll ever see it happen. It's a shame, because decent nsfw fanart for Harvest Moon is hard to come by.
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>>127149717
Yeah. That's fairly strange to be honest.
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>>127149717

Pixiv has lots of those, though majority of them are fujobait and femMC x bachelor of the day.
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>>127149717
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Island of Happiness's controls are pretty rough.
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>>127152124
It's a pity this game is for 3DS, I would love to try it.
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>>127157605
I would have bought a 3ds just for RF4 honestly.

Just pick up a cheap 2ds and pirate
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>>127144723
>implying that violence isn't penultimate solution to every trouble humanity has
The ultimate solution is evaporating something. Removes problem and doesn't really hurt.
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Where the hell is the panda in SOS? I swear that silk country gave it to me already unless I forgot to build a structure for it or something? I read that it was in Witchie's house area after 13:00 but it's never there. And I'm in year 3 so if I haven't gotten it I should have by now...
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>>127163173
The other cliffside by witchie's house.
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>>127164318
sorry when I said "Witchie's area" I meant that whole area... It's just not there.. The normal+ black rabbits are the only animals
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>set birthday to New Years on 3DS
>birthday in RF4 is a month before RF4 New Years
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eggs
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>no swimsuits in SoS

i suffer as i live
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>>127170172
Reminds me of the popular perception of medieval Europe -- no swimming or regular bathing (that we know of).
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>>127174738
A cute. Cutest.
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>loli
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>>127177670
What's so great about eggs anyway?
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>>127178006
They provide energy, and can be used a lot of different ways, much like potatoes. Delicious and provide your days precious nutrients.
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>>127178709
I know. But if Forte were there and I were greater than a sword's distance away, I may like to say that.
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>page 10 again
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>>127178006
They're delicious.
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>>127182204

People are still hungover from New Year's.

EU, shafted as they were, are playing SoS.
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>>127184274
what do you mean EU got shafted. are you referring that they got their SoS late?
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Is there any Harvest Moon/Rune Factory games where you can court a loli?
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>>127185429
RF4 - Amber
SoS - Lillie
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>>127185429
If you mean someone that acts young, Amber in RF4 is the only one that I know of. If you're okay with just appearance, there are tons.
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>>127185954
I love looking for random subjects in screenshots people upload. For example, I see Forte staring at you, while Clorica is just staring off into town.
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rf4 make mad dosh how?
madder than purp grass > hot powder stuff.
way madder than wool > yarn
wool - yarn - scarf thing is maybe marginally worth more than just yarn
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>>127186776
>improve garbage gear drops with food drops or regrowing crops (strawberry works good at first, then pink melons)
>sell them at your shop
>improve your trade levels
>get mad dosh
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>>127187584
>selling the chirpy sandals for $5560.83 USD

Another way is to buy all the ingredients you can afford for Gold Juice, make them all into Gold Juice, sell them, and repeat the cycle as needed. Giant Pink Melons and Giant Strawberries do well as well.
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>>127184784

Refer to this post -----> >>127053605
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>>127185429
A Wonderful Life Special Edition. Lumina is canonically 14 years old.
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>>127190975
I always wanted to court Lumina. So you could do it in that one?
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>>127191127
Yup. Get yourself a ps2 emulator and you can marry your child bride. Her-in game model is older after your first in game year, though.
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>>127191127

Yep. But PS2.

Framerate and graphics are shit compared to the GC version.
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>>127193772
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>>127191480
>>127191478
I might do that.
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>>127157605
For small games like that, handheld consoles are better.
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>go to redecorate my farm in sos
>can't move the house
>can't connect the premade road to any road I make or make a road lead to my house
>the roads I do make don't connect properly despite essentially being fucking lego pieces, it always looks layered for some reason
>roads don't get close at all to the craft buildings
>have to make a second building to move animals to the other side of the farm
>roads require a fuck ton of soil and i was too stupid to buy a ton in advance
What is this shit, i just wanted a nice little line of "shops" next to my house
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How do I make stupid amounts of money in SoS with minimal effort? I think I'd rather be a manager making passive income than watering these damn crops every day. Mining seems more lucrative nearly 1 year in anyway.
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>>127136875
>>127059630
How the hell did he managed to play ANY of the HM games, they all have a very young and "loli"-like design. This is a game for kids after all
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>>127198114
Flax. Flax is the miracle money crop.

Turn your flax into golden thread and then into golden cloth using the sewing shed.
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>>127198214
And for ToTT?
Is there any way to make brouzoufs without abusing fertilizers?
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>>127198570
Haven't played ToTT. Sorry m8.
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I'm looking for a good, comfy game to chill with, is SoS good for it? My only run in with Harvest Moon in the past is the gamecube game. Do I get to choose a waifu still and raise a kid as well as my comfy farm?
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>>127199049
>Do I get to choose a waifu still and raise a kid as well as my comfy farm
That's literally every Harvest Moon game, so don't worry.
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>>127199049
Yes, although I wouldn't say SoS is as comfy as is should be.

If you can put up with some grinding and the usual HM flaws you'll enjoy the game.
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>>127199241
>usual HM flaws

Not >>127199049, but do you mean stuff like the very limited character development and dialog?
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>>127199691
That and the pointless things that are added to artificially lengthen the game or stop you from progressing too quickly. Some games have a gimmick that really outstays its welcome.

RF4: RNG
SoS: Grinding and RNG
Frontier: Runey system

Things like that are what I'm talking about.
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>>127199939
ToTTS : random access to fertilizer, many things locked until year three.
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>>127199939
Was it Sunshine Islands that wouldn't let you give gifts until you had a certain amount of FP?
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>>127200771
Sounds awful
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>>127188531
EU guy here, sorry I don't really understand are the changes really bad?
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>>127199939
I hate it when "innovations" to gameplay turn out to be hindrances. Or in the case of the Runey System, game-breaking hindrances.
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>>127203574
The only major change was taking out the Variety Channel, which is totally optional and I'd bet a lot of players never even notice, but it's pretty fun - oh, and probably a quarter of the writing in the game. Understandable exclusion, since that would save a lot of translating time, but still is a huge potential blow.
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>>127204108
But why did they remove it for English? They could simply just remove it for the other shitty languages
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>do you like me?
>y-yeah
>THANKS
>YOU'RE WELCOME
what the fuck
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Wow, Granny isn't all that useless. I just stole 4 boxes of turnips from her land
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>>127206776
Those were the ones you planted on the second day, weren't they?
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>>127208370
I thought I already harvested the turnips in the tutorial
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I want a Harvest Moon game where I have to make goods and food to sell to a fortress.
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>>127208651
That's... oddly specific
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>>127208735
What? I have a soft spot for games where you can influence events on a global scale without interfering directly. Like The Last Federation.
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>>127208791
Too bad good things never happen
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Why make SoS in all these different languages when RF4 just got released in English?
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>>127209052
Yeah.
But imagine it.
>if the food is good, the morale raises
>selling goods improve the military's efficiency, unlocking new areas
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>>127209474
I want a game where you can open a store and sell various stuff you've crafted to adventurers. Once they become stronger, they can venture into more dangerous dungeons and bring back better items to you. Something like that, anyway.

Selling stuff to military seems too large-scale, unless you can purchase land and hire and assign farmers to them. I'd totally be into it if you could make your own business empire
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>>127210342

Just play Reccettear
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>>127210342
Recettear is the closest thing.
Of course, you control the adventurer, but selling him weapons saves slots in your bag.
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>>127210390
>>127210412
I've played Recettear, but it's way too short. You can beat it in less than a day and then it's all over.
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As long as we're suggesting oddly specific RF/HM games, I think one set in a Hopi-like desert town would be interesting.
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>>127210532
How about Majesty, then?

>>127212669
>Hopi-like desert town
What the fuck is an Hopi?
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>>127204108
Wow, that is quite bad. I mean I'll get the game anyway but it's not like mainline harvest moons had a ton of deep dialogue to start with
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I want to spank Reina. Or Licorice. Same girl anyway.
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>>127212725
>What the fuck is an Hopi?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi
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>>127217303
Oh, skinwalkers.
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I can't decide what I want to be/focus on in SoS

Shit it's like high school all over again
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>>127217604
This is the saddest thing I've seen.
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So does it just take years to get 5 star crops or is there a faster way than plant -> fert -> seed maker? Tedious as shit when my best crop is 2 stars and I'm already drowning in 4.5 star milk.
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>>127218631
Remember to specify which game you're talking about.
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>>127218726
Yeah my bad, SoS
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>>127218754
Don't know about SoS, but in ToTT, you can stack the fertilizers.

That's something I wouldn't recommend IRL because you're flooding the soil with nutriments that will fuck up the local ecosystem, but Harvest Moon is everything but logical, so...
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>>127220150
>realism
>video games
Pick one. Then again, in Harvest Moon, Monsanto sells you seeds.
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Man, there are so many good looking girls to marry in Island of Happiness, I can't figure out who to pick.
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>>127222756
No matter. You don't get to do anything kinky to them anyway.
At least Concerned Parents won't have any complains about it.
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What's the song played at the Fall Concert in SoS? Everybody makes hints as to it being from a past game or whatever, but I don't recognize it.
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>>127223027
That's too bad, I really can't decide which trophy wife to take.
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>>127218631
>>127218754

Seed maker combo. Gives star points when you convert a crop to a seed.
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>>127196957
Yeah, that's bugging the hell out of me currently too.. For something that has a pretty big focus on decorating, I wish they had made it a little more intuitive, every time I go to change stuff on my farm it triggers the shit out of my autism because you can never get the pieces where you want.
I visited someones farm the other day who used roads for large paths, then paving stones for paths to buildings since they're a little more flexible
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>>127225934
Its just various songs from older games, for instance I heard the HMDS theme one year. SOS seems very inclined towards using IOH/SH songs so I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch were from those
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>>127230124
That loli has a nice butt.
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So Story of Season finally came out in yurop a couple of days ago and now I'm confronted with the hardest question of the game... which bachelorette will I pursue to make my waifu?

currently favoring Lillie but the onee-san type Iris is warming up to me aswell... but Lillie comes with a cute in-law.. FUCK the choice is too hard, I let you decide for me
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>>127230584
Pick Licorice, she's a closet pervert.
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