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50 Shades of Black Edition

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>DARK SOULS 3
>PSX 2015 Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRJ5u-L8qw
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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>>126980126
I betcha that image won't stay half as long as I can last in bed anon.

Shame on you.
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>>126980502
it's just the maiden in black with condensed milk on her face. nothing nsfw about it.
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Post lewd souls
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>>126980908
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>invade someone as darkmoon for once
>"Oh boy!"
>run to try and find them
>immediately run off the edge and die
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>>126980957
yer baby
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>>126980126
porn thread?
i brought the lolis!
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>>126981245
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>>126981763
That art is a fucking abomination.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/878304b9e80b718fadabf1c9815941ab/tumblr_nq0r8syyup1tdv657o4_r2_1280.jpg
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>>126981763
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>>126980957
>fat guy with a skirt and bra
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>getting cozy by the fire with some hard candies and coffee
>running a glass cannon int build in which I need to worry about like 3 stats
>helping people blow through Iron Keep
>dont need to worry about what build the other guy is running because im not killing the other guy this time

How are your hollidays going, /dsg/?
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I downloaded the kickass torr for Scholar of the First Sin.

It's installed but the icon sends me to the Steam Store.

Anyone know how to play?

Does it have to be through Steam? Online multiplayer is kill anyways
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Im about to buy the Sotfs edition of DS2 for ps4 because its 20 dollars. what is the soft and hard caps and is a faith/str build good?
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>>126981939
piss off menasLG
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>>126982049
using my super stamina regen flippy build to get summoned and rek some heavy knights/channelers/bell gargoyles for sale babbies
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>>126982321
oh shit, too lewd!
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>>126982213
I don't know how steam piracy works these days, but if you tried to launch that shit while logged into your real steam account, valve knows.
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>>126972014
my templar from ages ago
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Could anyone in the 150-179k bracket help me check if im soft banned? Haven't done any cheating but the complete lack of summon signs scares me.
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>>126982803
Saved for future fashion
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>>126982624

Wew lad

So do I need to also get over Steam to play?

Can't I avoid it?

This is what I have installed, but can't seem to be able to acess it.
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>>126983023
Read the fucking instructions on the torrent you downloaded
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>>126982963
i also have this from ages ago that some anon made

i remember those people and they were cool
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Help a sale baby out.

Other than "everything", what am I doing wrong?
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>>126980126
w-what is that image from
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>>126983291
You might want to level ADP and your VIT some more. And get the Estoc for a rapier since you have more STR than DEX. Besides that nothing stands out
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>>126983291
Not seeing any issue aside from going quality with a dex weapon, that really isn't too big of a problem though. Also I thinkk youre over the soft cap for vit.
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>>126982803
bonus comfy traveler i whipped up
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>>126983613
LET'S GO CAMPING, ANON
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Your favorite
>str weapon
>Dex weapon
>Magic
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>>126983106

There aren't any on ny folder.

the only readable thing is this weird shit
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>>126983536
His vit is 15 dumbass

>>126983291
Why is your strength so high when you're not using a strength weapon?

>>126983867
Go to the website you got the torrent from and read it
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>>126983840
Estoc
Fume Sword
Warmth
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>>126982817
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>>126983840

Enchanted Zweihander +5
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>>126983729
PITCHED A TENT
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>>126982213
Did you download the crack for the torrent as well?
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>>126984030
>Enchanted
>Zweihander

W H Y
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>>126983840
DaS1 Large Club
Greatbows
Chameleon
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>>126983840
Longsword
Longsword
Chameleon
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>fume knight buff
>kill all summons and me in 1 hit
what i do? my ring of fire resisatnce+3 is useless against him, and when i am alone i die easily to him too
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today i got invaded for first time and i won, you guys dont know how proud i am of myself
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>>126984175
Dodge.
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>>126983840
gyrm axe
silver knight straight sword
ds2 fire whip
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>>126984120

Because Enchanted is the hardest hitting upgrade path at max level (without buffs)
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>>126983521
Yeah, I'm dumping into Vit/Vigor/Adapt right now.
The Estoc is my "backup" weapon since I haven't upgraded it yet and my Rapier is at +4.

>>126983536
>"going quality with a dex weapon"
Rephrase it as if I were dumb please

>>126983936
Yeah, I wanted to play a sort of a fencer/dexterity character with the rapier or estoc. I wound up raising my strength that high because I found a greatsword that needed 25 strength/20 dex and had C/A ratings respectively.
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>>126984175
Just don't get hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kj51wCVtI8
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>>126984082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZPBSjmKX4
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>>126983840
FUGS (if only because I can type "FUGS" in normal replies and get away with it)
Rapier
For magic on its own, Sorcery
As an accessory to melee, Faith

>>126983984
Get a Red Eye orb
Try and invade in your red border area
Expect an invasion by your third try
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>>126983207
That mlgs archdrake looks amazing, I love how the sword is at the perfect level
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>>126984326
But can you still use it effectively at the minmax-y levels of 16 str and 10 dex like the Chaos and Lightning paths?
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>>126984091

The what?

If it came with a crack I downloaded it with everything, I dont think there's a separate one for the download.

It's just the only Dark Souls on kickass. Nothing there either.
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Is DSCFix still relevant/useful?
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>>126984082
can i come too?
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>>126984419

You can but go to the mugenmonkey character planner to make sure it works.

Other than at max level or very very high chaos seems to be the strongest upgrade path.

It definately is at level 100-ish
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>>126984249
i dodge, but thats not what ds2 hitboxes think
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>>126984689
Sure.
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>>126984904
Stop blaming your bad roll timing on the hitboxes meme.
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>>126984375
the man had true taste, matching his sword and his shield

>>126984689
try some comfier-looking pants, your legs must be cramped
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>>126984608
From the looks of your folders, it dosen't seem like there's a crack. If you don't add the crack to your game files, you can't play the game without being taken to the steam store. Try searching for "Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin Cracked." It'll be a small file.
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>>126985000
the hitboxes are extremely bad
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>>126985464
Stop blaming your bad roll timing on the hitboxes meme.
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i am out of these items to stop the statues that heal the fume knight, where can i get more of them?
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>>126985031
i thought the whole point of elite knight legs were that they were comfortable enough to walk and move in but armored enough to take a hit
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So did Zulie have a (not?) fat ass or something? Dress makes most female characters look thick.
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There any way to force an NPC tombstone to spawn? Need to get force from that miracle bitch but I already kicked her off a ledge.
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should i buy SOTFS if i am principally interested on pvp, or is pvp dead?
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>>126985505
the hitboxes are extremely bad
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>>126985778
Stop blaming your bad roll timing on the hitboxes meme.
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>>126985762
PvP is active as fuck on Scholar. Christmas sales tripled the playerbase.

>>126985778
Not playing this game with you anymore. Acquire proficiency or stop shitposting.
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>>126985762
Just wait until dark souls 3.
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>>126985762
I would say no wait for ds3, where the pvp will be less shit
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Mastodon halbred is pretty nifty.
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>>126985543
Take the rubble can going up, then the elevator going up, go to the right
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>bonfire breaks from failed invasion
>homeward bone to fix
>walk out
>fog wall and bonfire immediately breaks again
wew
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>>126985505
my roll timing is fine. i don't play ds2
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>>126986160
Here's a reply, you worked hard on this post.
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>>126986374
what?
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>>126986126
DaS1 I'm guessing?
Just save and quit when that happens, better than wasting a bone.
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What physique looks the best in the majority of armor in dark souls?
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>>126986808
Slim. Not Average or Very Slim, just Slim.
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>go kill smelter(had skipped)
>farm on ironkeep
>buy his armor
>try to fight fume knight fat rolling
>kill him on first try
>mfw
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What are the odds of me getting soft banned for using cheat engine to cap company of champions while offline?
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>>126987005
screenshot
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>>126987114
Speaking from experience, that won't get you softbanned. You don't even need to be offline for it.
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>>126987206
Aight thanks, ill probably still go offline due to paranoia even if it isn't actually necessary.
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>>126987292
If you say so anon. If you do anything softban-worthy offline, the server will pick it up on your save the next time you go online anyway.
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>have to farm black phantoms for the insolent set
what the fuck Scholar?
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>>126987485
Wut? Agdayne doesn't sell it anymore?
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>>126987485
kill them all once and CE what you didnt get
ezpz
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Hi people
I am in my second playthrough, and it seems like my Petrus doesnt seem to kill my Rhea, could it be a bug?
I rescued her from the catacombs (I killed Patches, I did not deny to be a cleric, after climbing I talked to him and he attacked me)
she is in the church.
After seeing her in the church and buying a few miracles, I cleared the whole dukes archives, returned hoping to see her dead, and she is still alive, praying.

Also, after killing seath I went to see Andre, then returned to the duke's archives to kill the Sigmeyer's daughter golem and couldnt find it.
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>>126988176
Buy all her miracles.
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Im running a spellcaster build, /dsg/

What are some good songs to cast spells to?
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>>126988176
You have to free Sieglinde before killing Seath.

Try killing Nito to trigger Petrus?

>>126988231
He doesn't want her to hollow, he wants her to get killed.
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>>126988176
i think its random and takes a while. try killing a boss.

>>126988231
this is wrong and dont listen to him. if you do this, you'll prevent petrus from ever killing her

though i dont know why you want him to
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>>126988176
Did you buy a tip from Lautrec? If you don't I think Petrus still just says "Oh, sorry, miracles, right?" or something and won't kill her.
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>>126988439
This
I made the same mistake on my first run
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>>126988439
do you actually HAVE to have him tell you that for him to kill her, though?
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>>126988439
Wait are you saying Petrus won't kill Rhea if you buy a tip from Lautrec?
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>>126988953
he's suggesting the opposite. im not sure how true it is though
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>>126988352

I am role playing, my character doesnt know Petrus will kill her.
I killed Seath and it didnt trigger Petrus killing her.

>>126988351
I am pretty sure I discovered her (Sieglinde inside the Golem) by chance in my first playthrough after killing Seath when I returned to the duke's archives to farm twinkling titanite.

I googled and it says I should find her after helping her father in Blighttown, but I found her in my last playthrough and never found her father after Firelink Shrine (I never returned to Blighttown)
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>>126988953
It's the contraty, Petrus WILL kill Rhea if you buy Lautrec's tip
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>>126988853
>>126988953
no, petrus kills her randomly anyway
i killed lautrec in his cell as soon as i found him
when i saved rhea in totg i went back up and bought 2 miracles from her then went to kill nito
when i warped back to buy a 3rd she was dead
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>>126988439
yes, this is all he says. I dont remember ever buying anything from Lautrec. So I think you are right.
Well, I dont complain if he doesnt murder her.
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>>126989047
just try killing another boss then
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>ng+ time
>mfw time to go on a killing spree
Why do I enjoy this so much?
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>>126989064
So... Petrus doesn't kill Rhea if you don't buy Lautrec's tip? That doesn't sound right. And if it isn't the case, why was it brought up in the first place?
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>kill Quelaag first with an unupgraded weapon for the first time, took about 20 minutes
>don't ring the Blighttown bell because I "know" it will cause Lautrec to automatically kill the Firelink keeper
>trek all the way back to Firelink
>she's dead
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>>126989407
its looting the blighttown firekeeper soul that causes it, not the bell. thats where you fucked up
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>>126989407
Somebody picked up a Firekeeper soul
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>>126989407
>trek
it's one elevator ride away you SHIT
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>>126989480
Both trigger it.
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>oh i should go hollow for navlaan
>there's a darksign in this game isn't there? i'll just use that to suicide
>80,000 souls disappear
whoops
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>>126989376
The same reason Laurentius asking where you got your fancy pyromancy just leads to him going hollow if you answer yes and zero penalty if you answer no.
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>>126989996
>The Darksign induces death, returning the player to the last bonfire rested at, at the cost of all souls held.
its your own damn fault
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>>126990224
Yeah, I read it as I used it and had a hearty chuckle about my mistake. I was thinking it would leave a bloodstain for some reason. Not a huge deal on this character anyway
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>>126990503
Well, I'm a little butthurt about the amount of potential titanite i just threw in the trash like a dumbass
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Is an un-upgraded dark set and +5 dark sword too overpowered for darkwraith cosplay invasions in undead parish?

I just killed a guy who did really pathetic amounts of damage to me, but I'm not sure if it was my armor or just the fact that he was using an un-upgraded spear or something.
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>>126991635
Nah you should be fine unless thats a chaos +5 sword or something.
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>watching DSP play Dark Souls
>he spouts infuriating faggot shit
>I can't stop watching
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>>126991635
+5 should be okay as long as you're low level.

unupgraded dark set should be okay as long as you dont have tons of vit. you'll still likely have to adjust your playstyle to be a lot...easier if you want to have any fun though. thats what i do
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>>126989996
>Not just teleporting to Shaded Ruins and stopping by the nearest curse pot.
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>>126991809
I know that feeling. I only watched a highlight real of his dumbasses though, I could never sit through the whole fucking thing.

He outright calls people who like dark souls idiots because the game is "broken as fuck but people will still buy it because they're morons"
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hey guys I really liked dark souls 1

souls ii is $20 on steam, and I only have $20 to spend on steam

wat do
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>>126992273
whats funny is when he was playing Bloodborne DLC and he rage quit he said he was "A big fan of Souls 1 and 2"
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>PS3
>trying to invade as blade of the darkmoon in ornstein cosplay in anor londo
>after 20 minutes of trying I finally invade
>killed almost as soon as I arrive by two guys throwing out dark bead and homing crystal soulmass

I really need to get on PC so it doesn't take me 20 minutes to be disappointed by pvp.
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>>126992568
ANON

JUST

buy the game, it's fun despite it's flaws. Get the right version though. (sotfs)
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>>126992568
It's not as polished as 1, but theres a large amount of content. Just make sure you get the Scholar version.
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So the guy that keeps spamming about the 4 kings what was his problem with them? I killed them first try I thought I was going into suffering
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>>126993301
he's got... mental issues.

You're better off just ignoring him, or do as I and many others, filter him.
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>>126993301
he's autistic and is constantly shitposting about things only tangentially related to the 4 kings, just ignore it
However new londo and the boss thereof are a bit lacking for a post-lordvessel area
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You know what DSIII needs? A training dummy in the hub, so that I can have something to beat when I want to try out a new weapon and compare things like damage output and movesets.
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>>126993498
If you want something like that in DS1 the stone dragon in ash lake can be used for that, he's immortal so you can't kill or aggro him.
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can someone explain how pvp watchdog's ignore feature works exactly? does it block their ip or something?
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>>126994497
I think they just get kicked out of your IP pool
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>tfw bae checkin you out
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>>126994827
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>invade someone in ToTG
>instantly disconnects
i cant blame him honestly
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>>126993923
>>126993498
The pigs in majula also serve that purpose as well.
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So I actually have to change my download location to the most 'populated' zone to get more available pvp stuff in the non GFWL version of DaS?
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>>126993301
He genuinely has some issues. Unfortunately it seems any mods that have actually seen it just think it hilarious so he doesn't catch a ban despite reaching easily 50+ shitposts a thread (when he's active).
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>>126996102
im in the US and didnt change my region and i get plenty
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>>126995685
>Get invaded in church by a twink
>I got butcher's knife without beating Queelag for this build
>he has no poise
>Just stunlock him since he doesn't toggle
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So what's the fastest way to go about making a new character for pvp and stuff? Do you just speed through until you're at NG+ and find an area to grind in?
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What kind of build can you do with a Deprived starter anyway? I've tried everything but that one
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>>126996851
what game
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>>126996969
you can one-hand the dagger in DaS2, as well as two-hand a few other weapons.

Vanquisher's seal is also usable.
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>>126997115
I meant DaS 1. The only way I've found to make advantage of his stats is to do an Artorias build, as the greatsword of Artorias is the only one to scale with both faith and dex, otherwise I'm afraid I'm going to waste some stat points simply by picking this class
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>>126997416
that's correct, depraved is optimal for no builds at all AFAIK
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>>126997017
DaS1, sorry should've mentioned that.
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>>126997416
faith and int*
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>>126997564
you just pick master key, beeline for all the items you need for your build, and ignore everything else.
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>>126996851
-Take the master key as starter gift. It'll let you skip a whole bunch of bosses alltogether. You can be fondling quelaags's tits literally ten minutes after arriving to firelink with it.

- there are only five bosses you need to fight to do a Darkwraith : Gargoyles, Quelaag, Golem, Biggie Smalls, Sif and 4kids. They're all doable fairly easily with a +5/+10 weapons and some reson so it's really a matter of hours
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>>126997949
you dont have to do O&S to be a darkwraith technically
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>>126998067
Wait how do you access the darkwraith covenant without the Lordvessel?
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>>126997949
>>126997698
This is one of the things I really prefer in Dark1 over all the other souls games. The ability to skip and circumvent entire areas, and come at them backwards. It's also why the second half is shit, since it's the most linear shit ever
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>>126996069
Their hitboxes are annoyingly tiny, though.
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>>126998164
kill ingward
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>>126983840
Large Club
nothing
sunlight blade.
who needs dex when you have tangible destructive faith
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>>126998340
I'm fairly certain that even if you get to Kaathe first he'll refulse t talk to you until you have the lordvessel. I remember being extremely annoyed by it the first time
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>>126998457
no, my first SL1 character didnt kill O&S until after i became a darkwraith. he'll just tell you to go get it like frampt does, but you can still join.
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I just beat this Devil May Cry motherfucker. Fifty hours over 3 years of slowly chipping away at the game and I've finally done it (though I only got serious and beat Tower Knight and Armour Spider at the end of August, so it's more like 40 hours over 4 months). But anyway, now I can move on to Dark Souls after I do the wholesome thing and lock away the Old One. No way I'm gonna kill the waifu in black, because I sorta rp'd my guy as being evil and wearing Yurt's armour and using magic before becoming religious and wearing Garl Vinland's armour and using miracles. Well, miracles and Firestorm, saved my life in the fight with Allant even though it barely ever hit him.
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Reminder that if you don't pick your starting gift in relation to your starting class you're a minmaxing scrub.
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>>126992706
I hate to tell you this anon but it would actually be worse on PC

Darkmoon invading has always been shit.
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>>126999135
Forgot to mention, fucker grabbed one of my soul levels so I'm ending off the game at level 69. My inner 13 year old is proud.
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>>126999161
I always pick either pendant or seed of the tree of giants.
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So I just bought Dark Souls PTD on steam for 5 bucks.

I've never played any kind of Souls game in my life.

What should I know going in?
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>>126999162
I feel bad for Darkmoon Blades. Last time I went human in ToG without killing papa Nito I got repeteadly invaded by the same blue phantom for half an hour. Apparently I was the only asshole he could invade, which is probably the reason he tried so hard
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>>126999321
You're going to die.

A lot.

It's not the end of the world if you do. Just bare in mind that every time you die, it is 100% your own fault. Every enemy is piss easy after you take the time to study their habits. Never blame the game, and never, ever, give up.
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>>126999321
never level RES
never ask for help unless you absolutely need it
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>>126999321
dont level resistance, ever, period.

your character strength is tied to your gear more than your level. youll get access to a blacksmith early on. become his best friend and keep your weapon of choice fully upgraded.

speaking of, gear works a little differently in this game than most RPG. you dont start out with shit gear and get progressively better and better gear. some gear is better than others, but for the most part, you can easily play through the entire game with your starting gear if you keep it upgraded. find a weapon youre comfortable with and keep it upgraded.

also, speed is tied to your equip load. keep it low and youll move, run, and dodge faster. the breakpoints are 25 and 50%

those are the basics, mainly.
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>>126999531
>every time you die, it is 100% your own fault
after you've cleared every area once or looked up a guide to spoil the gotcha deaths, sure
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>>126999321
Read every single items description. The game doesn't really have a tutorial, so if you want to understand how something works, or what something does, take the 5 seconds and read every single fucking thing you can.
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>>126999702
DS1 doesn't really have too many of those, though. That was more of a DS2 thing.
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>>126999321
Fuck shields and fuck magic, optimal fun.

>>126999702
Pay attention.
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>>126999702
i dont think there are any gotcha deaths that dont have a tell. worst case scenario theres always an orange soapstone sign to tell you when something like that is about to happen
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>>126999702
The only "gotcha" deaths are from things that

A) people will leave messages about
B) have a shit load of bloodstains around them
and
C) will literally only work on you once

Even if you get 'got', big whoop. Death is hardly a setback in this game, unless your carrying around a lot of soft humanity, which isn't even really a big deal at higher levels.
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>>126999834
>walking across bridge in undead burg
>dragon flies over you and instakills you if you don't have enough vit
>bed of chaos
>floor crumbles out from underneath you with no warning
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>need just 1 more ear for DMB
>havent found that one last invasion
pls
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>>126999820
>>127000061
he said 100%
>>126999832
even if you pay perfect attention and start running back the frame the dragon can be detected, it will still get you
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>>127000129
desu I expected the shit out of the floor giving way during BoC

the hellkite drake is bullshit though
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Should I just play like a total asshole all the time in DaS pvp? Everyone only seems to be interested in backstab fishing anyway.
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>>127000129
i dont agree with dragon at all because theres lots of tells there. also its only an instant kill if you get ht with the direct breath instead of the ground fire.

youre 100% right about bed of chaos though but everyone knows about that already. thats why from personally apologized for it.
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>>127000129
>undead burg

"Huh... what's with all these charred, smoking corpses and burn marks all over this place..."

>BoC

Plainly untrue. Floor collapses as you approach the area, never after you've already stepped on it. If you take your time and don't rush everywhere, you'll see the floor give out before you walk into the hole.

Now, BoC smacking your shit *into* the whole is another matter entirely.
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>>126992706
For this very reason, great shield builds were designed.
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>>127000287
>even if you pay perfect attention and start running back the frame the dragon can be detected, it will still get you
no it wont and even if it does it wont oneshot you unless youre in the breath itself

>>127000427
i think you meant to say GMB
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Is it worth it to upgrade a C scaling weapon to Raw in DS2?
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>>127000287
It is 100% the players fault if they don't read soapstone messages.

It is 100% the players fault if they don't investigate a bloodstain.

It is 100% cockiness to think you don't have to listen to what other players say.

It is 100% naivete to take everything a player says at face value, especially if their message has negative votes, or is surrounded by bloodstains showing dumb shit like people walking to their deaths off a cliff.

Need I go on?
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Why is it so much harder to get the input right for guard break/jump attack in DaS2 compared to kicking/jump attack in DaS?
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>>127000640
>it is 100% the player's fault if they don't pay attention to things that might not even show up when the netcode fucks up
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>>127000741
dude i dont even think bloodstains and soapstone messages are tied to nodes. literally the only time you wont see them if youre specifically playing in offline mode.
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>>127000629
Considering C grade scaling is pretty shit to start with, why not. I'd say B scaling and above is where Raw isn't worth it.
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>>127000479
GMB and Havel's with a grass crest offhand.
Can't kill much but it works great as a "fuck you"
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>>127000629
I haven't done the maths but C scaling is quite significant when your stat is 20+
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>>127000852
GMB by itself is more than enough to completely shut down any sorcery at all, even dark magic. havels would just be overkill.
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>>127000741
"There's this great benefit from playing online, where I can get lots of tips and hints from other players"

"Eh, fuck that. Better play with my router unplugged."

Literally the only way to not get bloodstains/soapstone messages.

Also "Seek Guidance" is a thing for people who *really* want the help. There is no excuse.
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>>127000640
The amount of soapstones I see that are "praise the sun!" or "here!" and "I did it!" far overshadow anything actually useful like "the floor collapses out from under you and the bitch will knock you into it"

Or you 100% have to die to seath the scaleless the first time, you're not going to get a message that says anything beyond "imminent death" which people slap outside every bossfight.
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>>127000356
The problem with the dragon is that the ONLY way to avoid getting hit is to sprint from the INSTANT your foot touches the bridge, and go straight into the safe spot, without fighting. You'd only be able to do that if you knew beforehand. The damage is lower the first time it goes by, but still. Newer players might be at low health after Taurus, and just get killed by an unavoidable attack
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>>126999321
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>>127002402
this meme has been around since 2012 and it needs to fucking die. you are wrong, stop spouting this bullshit.
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Is scholar worth $20 if I just want to use bone fists?
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>>127002589
I just did the bridge ten minutes ago. Sprinting like I said, I just barely got to the safe spot
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>>127002861
you can also turn around
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>>127002606
yes
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>>127002883
After stepping one foot on the bridge? That's the only way there'd be time for that, and that would only happen to a new player through dumb luck. You'd never know the dragon was coming unless you happened to look back, but by the time you see it, it'd be too late to do anything either way
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How do I do I pvp in DaS? Particularly in a 2v1 scenario?

Nobody even swings, just circlestrafing for backstabs. Is there any specific tactic I can apply to counter that?
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>>127003020
you can hear him coming if youre listening. you can also keep your camera faced back and see him too. theres enough time for it just from running up to the charred spot and back
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does first sin still have the flame and white knight baby swords 20 minutes in?
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>>127003178
counterfish them. counterfish even in 1v1
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>>127003178
You could free-aim with weapons that have wide swings. Exploit their increased aggression due to their numbers. Either abuse invincibility, or stack poise
>>127003240
Yes, but we're talking about a fresh player. If you saw the dragon, why would you run towards it? Your solution is extremely unlikely to happen for somebody who is on their first playthrough. The only two ways are to just stand at the trigger point then sprint back, or sprint non-stop forward, neither of which are something the vast majority of players, regardless of skill, would do. Not saying it can't be done, just that it won't happen for anybody who doesn't know about the drake prior
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>>127003560
i have actually seen new players do it, anon. several. the thought process is actually pretty simple.

>see charred bodies
>optional: see soapstones/bloodstains
>cautiously approach
>hear dragon
>they run back in panic
>then then either make it to the corner or door and avoid it entirely, or they avoid the breath itself regardless and only get hit by the floor fire, which doesnt one shot
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>>127003806
I'm not saying the dragon OHKOs people with the first flyby. If you're at full health you're fine, but a lot of players might be low health after Taurus. I just think it's a really cheap shot compared to most of the game. Even the pygmy ambush by the channeler is better since the enemies don't hit hard unless they're buffed, and are easy to kill.
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>>127004072
i mean, i dont think theres anything cheap about getting hit and dying if youre at low health. thats kind of the entire idea of being at low health
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>>127004138
It just seems a bit much to put it just after the first real boss of the game. I think the DeS dragons were the same concept done much better
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>>127004272
sure but if they were really worried about it they could have just gone back to the bonfire or popped a humanity, which you get a bunch of at the beginning of the game. this is assuming they beat taurus having exhausted all their estus. like im sure there are plenty of people who had exactly what you described happen to them, but i feel like being punished for running around with no health just seems appropriate
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How active is blighttown for invasions? Is there a major difference in activity between upper/lower?
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>>127004671
are you looking to be invaded or invade? if youre invading, you actually get pretty decent invasions both top and bottom. dont expect it to be parish level, but its pretty solid, and ten times more fun
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>invade painted world
>2v1 host gankers
>tries to bow bait me even though i have pvp watchdog and can clearly see the fucking catalyst sticking out from the phantoms hiding spot.
>fight for a bit and go for a bleed.
>they literally just lag right behind me through my attack and backstab. didnt poise through it, didnt toggle it
its good to be back
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How the hell do I get past this rotating door in the sunken king dlc? I hit the switch on the floor and got stuck behind, there's a switch to the upper left but my arrows clip the walls and I can't hit it.
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so which one of you is doing ruse build in darkroot garden?
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>>127006368
There's no way back, you need to use a bone or feather. Or just proceed forward and find the next bonfire.
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>>127002191
besides the obvious "can't make a message that detailed, under any circumstance, ever" thing, yeeah, those messages are overdone. You're still better off checking than not. And anyone with half a brain will have been slapped around by BoC on the way to the first root and realized with the first floor collapse "oh shit, better not let this bitch slap me around this hole."

And even if they do die, again, big whoop. It's literally the "Prepare to Die" edition of the game. Same thing with Seathe. That scripted event happens because by the time you reach him, you should be numb to dying and losing all your souls. If the Seathe encounter was the straw that broke a players back and made them rage-quit the game, they didn't deserve to win and they were never gonna have the patience necessary to git gud.

The entire point of the Souls games is to showcase that failure is a minor setback and that patience and perseverance are the keys to overcoming the seemingly impossible.
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What are some of the most recognizable DaS PvP builds after GiantDad, HavelMom, and stuff like Oro and Peeve?
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>>127007026

I'm not in front of it, I'm still near the first bonfire in this area. It's the room wit the dark caster a bunch of poison knights. I went in, stepped on the switch that rotated it to the position it's in, then died.
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>>127007148
Havel Jester, I guess.
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>>127002191
I will concede the fact that Seathe is the only death in the game that is completely out of the players control. All other deaths are the players responsibility.
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>>127007148
dark magic
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>>127007410
I just meant for DaS.

I know there were builds made for Gold Tracer, Demon's Spear, Dark Bead, etc. but none of them have unique or iconic outfits associated with them, do they?
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>>127007148
anusface havelmonster
full butterfly hexer with smelter dildo
drangleic set+penal mask with tower shield
sack/thorn gauntlets katanashitter
dusk crown+red tearstone bullshit cannon
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Why is there such a ridiculous amount of meme signs in DS2? Every time there's anything, even a fucking lever next to an elevator there will be at least two signs next to it saying "beware of lever" and "hurrah for lever".
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>>127007583
dark magic does because theyll have a catalyst, and dusk crown

gold tracer/demon spear will always have mask of the mother but thats all tahts guaranteed. seeing a demon spear in the offhand is pretty much all you need to know
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>>127007625
My mememessages like "despair therefore jumping!" has 5 times the ratings of my actual tips like "sniper spot above" or "try no lock on"
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Anyone up for Sir Alonne? Lv105/877K SM SOTFS ofcourse
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>>127008067
1 sec senpai let me boot up my atari jaguar
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>>127008345
neato, want me to use engraved ring? I'll put it on Nehma if so
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I'm in Trouble---Please Recommend this message!
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>>127000324
Yes
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twitch tv/sylux98/v/32783721

dark souls 2 is a well polished game
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Started DeS recently lads. Sorry if this is a meme but is this game meant to be so fucking dark? I'm trying to do the second part of Stonefang but keep dying because I can't see shit below me
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if i let my soul memory go uncontrolled will i be able to get coop through ng+ and pvp
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>>126993431
to be fair, you dont NEED the lordvessel to kill him
it's still a disappointing fight and area
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>>127008345
a-anon?
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>>127007842
>"tongue but hole" messages
>they have over 100 rating
every time
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>>127009743
Yes. They value atmosphere significantly higher than visibility.
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The consensus is that DSII Scholar is better than vanilla right? I'm thinking of picking it up on the steam sale.
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>>127011909
Assuming you don't already own vanilla? Yes. If you own vanilla but not the DLCs, then yes but only if you want the DLCs. If you already own both vanilla and the DLCs then hell no
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>>127011826
And then they did the complete opposite for DSII
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Hey, this newb >>126999321 here.

So I'm going to have to put a pause on this whole Dark Souls things until I buy myself a controller.

This thing is unplayable with keyboard and mouse.
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R8 this savage caveman
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>>127012382
oh, yeah, someone probably should have told you that. its not a keyboard and mouse game at all. go get one. xbox or playstation controllers both work. a 360 controller will work without you even needing to do anything
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>>127012413
you die to a spear. military technology at work i guess
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>>127012382
I play it with the keyboard. (I'm not the newb btw)
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>>127003289
Fire longsword yes, but Heide sword is no longer a guaranteed drop. Most of the Heide knights have been properly deported back to Heide's tower and the sword has to be farmed there.
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>>127012382
Get DSFix if you don't already. Essential mod that's easy to use
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