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No pants Edition

>Letter from the Producer:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/276359-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-XXVI-Q-A-Update-Thread

>Current Event: Free Login Campaign: December 1st - 31st ( Free 96 Hours )
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/0bedb1c411e10e90b863f223e0a18a3082fa5458

>Seasonal Event: The Starlight Celebration 2015:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2015/The_Starlight_Celebration

>Seasonal Event: Final Fantasy XI: The Maiden's Rhapsody:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2015/The_Maidens_Rhapsody

>Patch 3.15 Notes:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/86c483a5b15766c988ee8db15f4eda117b9d66e4

>Resources, guides, Free Companies and Linkshells:
http://pastebin.com/27YG1xjJ

>Last time on /xivg/:
>>126489236
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NO PANTS
NO LIMITS

xth for roegadyn boyfriends
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xth for Vjera
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sunc@s
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Cute boys?
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xth for remove degeneracy
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xth for Emina.
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>>126515003
I wish I had a roegadyn or a higlander bf
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I forgot I could hide posts
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Is MCH good? Hard to play? Fun?
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Could someone please rank the jobs in PvP from best to worst?

I don't what to play and ninja is certainly probably the worst choice.
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>tfw 1500 commendations

All hail to the Potatopope!

Wololo!
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post cats
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>>126515092
Shame you can't hide the OP.
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>>126515090
handlebars you said you would go to sleep
>>126515102
Grats, cutie!
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>>126515081
What, lads.

Trying to level in WoW and eat some honey smoked ham.
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>>126515128
I'm not handlebars
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>>126515102
You never told me how your Christmas was, Jaiby...
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xth for just-friends spooning
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>>126515095
MCH is easy and fun though it doesn't have its full kit till level 60. It takes a little practice to get comfortable on the opener, after that it's pretty super easy.
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What races/jobs does the XIV community dislike? I've never played an MMO before so I don't have any preferences but I'd rather not make a character which is identical to hundreds of over characters. Primarily I want to be useful .
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>>126515241
PLDs and ASTs
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>>126515241
lalafell tanks is the biggest one i think

>>126515090
tfw your bf wont fantasia to roegadyn

At least I get pic related
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>>126515224
Pretty much this. The people desperate for housing and getting butthurt over RareX's monopoly likely don't even know what they want. "It's a thing and I can't have it so its unfair".

Houses are not useful. They are a fuckton of gil for next to no use. You will not be worse off in the game for not owning one.
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It has returned.
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>>126515098
ninia is good, but SMN, WAR and AST are probably the best ones currently
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>>126515241
>What races/jobs does the XIV community dislike?
Paladins because the current endgame and the DPS metagame doesn't favor them.

Astrologians because it seems they rely too much in RNG and the other healers can do it better.

>Primarily I want to be useful.
Ninja, Bard, Summoner are great options for DPS with good utilities.

>>126515163
It was fine, but the traditions here makes christmas a little bit boring with all the forced religious stuff. The food was great, though.

>>126515128
Thanks!
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>>126515095
Worse in nearly every way compared to BRD. Especially so if your group isn't shit and doesn't need the tiny crutch that the MCH debuffs provide.
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Why cant I stop taking limit breaks away from melee?
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>>126515068
how about some buttc@s?
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>>126515078
Go suck your nuhns dick you sunc@ whore
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>>126515462
I had a feeling it was xivg that pulled this shit. If there's anything bad about the game it can usually get traced back to here.
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>>126515241
Avoid Paladin and male Lala.
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>>126515396
I'd want to play Bard or Summoner. Will I be ok in terms of playing with other players as long as I avoid paladin and ast?
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hello where are lalas?
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>>126515224
Is there anything else people would spend their gil on?
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>>126515554
being stuffed
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>>126515539
If it makes you feel better, it was the killing blow.
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>>126515392
How do I get good at NIN PvP then?
I must be doing something awfully wrong.

Do I not apply debuffs and dots and just go ham?
There's not even time to keep Huton up either.
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>>126515078
>remove degeneracy
>posts cat
oh the ironing
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>>126515446
But its funner
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>>126515462
They're too slow, boss has less than 10% and I'm using it.
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>>126515586
With what?
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my ideal gf would be a mooncat
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>>126515554
Hello, I am a lala. I am here.
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Anyone wanna be lewd friends on Ultros?
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>>126515567
Leveling crafts, gearing alts, RMT
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>>126515635
finest sticky aether essence
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Whatever happened to that <Yuri!> FC?
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Why does SE hate pants?
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>>126515667
>ultros
good luck finding just a friend on that dead server
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>>126515667
maybe
post your character
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>>126515635
Love
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>>126515665
great now leave
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>>126515693
It's not dead, it's just sleeping. ZR will rise again, just you wait.
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>>126515368
Right there with ya
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I don't even know why I still play this game. It's clear SE doesn't even care about it anymore and they are doing the bare minimum so it keeps bringing in cashflow

I would kill for a good MMO
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>>126515291
>tfw no highlander bf to bully my lala boy

It hurts
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>>126515786
Define "good".
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>>126515786
Blade and soul SOON
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>>126515804
Maybe you should try fantasiaing to a better race
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>>126515549
Sure, anon. Consider that every job works well, is just that /xivg/ dislikes these jobs a this moment, but isn't like you couldn't do something with them.

Oh! And I forgot to mention that in order to get Bard, you need Archer level 30 and Lancer 15. To get Summoner, you need Arcanist 30 and Thaumaturge. Also, considering you want to be useful, Arcanist can also become Scholars, which are pretty damn good healers, you need Conjurer 15 for that.
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>>126515786
Same. It's been apparent since 2.1 that they don't have the creative scope to sustain this game in the long term. It's always band-aids on festering problems instead of sustainable design.

I'm keeping an eye on Camelot Unchained.

>>126515834
Blade and Soul has been out for a while now, fuck off.
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>>126515834
>tfw three commendations for being cute
:D
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>>126515098
Is Monk good at pvp? Because I can't seem to keep greased lightning up so what is the point of gonig Monk in there?
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>>126515462
>>126515594
If it was the killing blow then the melee were dumb. You use it (lv2/3) as soon as possible, and if melee doesn't do that then it's fair game. I give them ten seconds before satisfying meteor storm or whatever it's called.
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>>126515804
A walking onahole like you should have no problem finding one~
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>>126515665
hello i see you finally took a bath good good

>>126515586
>tfw no lala to feed like a goose til her round belly balloons up

why live?
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>>126515786
>I would kill for a good MMO
Sadly, there's no sign that any such thing will ever be made.

>>126515834
>generic Korean garbage #984651
>good
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Loneliness on Cerberus EU. Anyone else?
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>>126515692
They think it's a funny joke to make it more likely that butts are shown off despite the lack of rumps. Cruel humor.

>>126515665
Psst... honk honk.
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Au ra have the best butts
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>>126515942
I hate it, I'm going to go roll in dirt for an hour.
>>126515960
Honk honk!
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Hey PLDs of /vg/ post your glams please I am tired of wearing the same shitty Hauchefant shield veryone wears.
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>>126515368
>>126515773
Why are you guys sad?
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>>126516192
That cool one with the two swords in it
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>>126515938
Being used like an onahole by a tall muscular highlander is my number one fantasy now
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wat
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>>126515925
there is a pvp skill that can give you an instant 3 stacks

MNKs are very dangerous in pvp if they have their cooldowns. not as fucking annoying as an AST though. overall though pvp in this game is fucking retarded and dumb
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>>126516192
Are you looking more specifically for sword+shield glamours or full appearance overall? The sword from the Aery (Tyrfing) looks pretty sleek, and I also really liked the Library shield (The Southern Sun).

>>126516263
Those snowman quests are a little spooky.
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>>126516192
Southern Sun
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Hey is a white mage lalafell a good idea?
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Chocobo racing never gets any deeper than "hold forward to win" does it?
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>>126516564
>Expecting depth from XIV
>Expecting depth from XIV minigames.
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>>126516482
Race literally doesn't matter. It's two stat points in a game where we're breaking 1000.

That said no, lalafell are fucking cancer.
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How active are the devs in this game?
Do they ever shake the late game meta up or does it become stagnant and overly formulaic?
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>>126516223
No more pants off, dance offs like in 2.x.....
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>>126516724
We can accurately predict what's going to be in every major patch up until the next expansion. The majority of encounters involve atleast one "Oh it's the mechanic from X fight I've done before" moment.
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>>126516724
Not at all. We've had the same endgame structure since the game relaunched and they've been stiff in adding new avenues for content to expand, favoring simplicity over depth.
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DOES PALADIN GET FUN AT 60?
I JUST DO 1-2-3 AT 50 WHAT THE HECK?
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>>126516724
they lisen to the community

but mostly jp

and they should stay that way because everything that comes from na eu of are just worthless noise

the last time they did listen to na they created the abomination that is savage
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post male hyurs god damn it!!!
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>>126516867
Same shit, except now you've got a wealth of worthless utility and two new combos.
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>>126516867
Short answer no.

Long answer is PLD would be the most fun class in the game if everything has wasn't completely fucking useless.
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>>126516925
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>>126516724
They're active for a small team.
Their formula has been so predictable so far, with some new stuff being thrown away in odd patches sometimes.
They're lacking creativity honestly, and shrug off existing issues the game has, and only poorly bandage it or give false promises to fix it.
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>>126516979
>It'd be fun if everything wasn't not fun.
Ok?
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Alright, anons, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hated are Dragoons? I remember pre-ninja they were the shitter class because everyone played it and they'd usually be the ones that'd fuck up.

With HW though, is it a little better? I ask because I'm almost 60 as a Dragoon and don't want to be the shitty one that stands out in a FC.
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>>126516564
It's an ok timesink, just like everything else in this game.
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tfw sad
tfw miss everyone

whats the point
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>>126517135
heavensward killed this game
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>>126517039
Imagine if Divine Veil were a 10k party shield.
Imagine if Clemency couldn't be interrupted
Imagine if Sheltron blocked magic.
Imagine if PLD could generate enough threat to make using Royal Authority a fucking option
Imagine if shit were still stunnable
Imagine if shit could be pacified
Imagine if tempered will could be used on EVERY knockback instead of just half of them.
Imagine if their defensive cooldowns were actually strong enough to make a difference over any other tank.
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>>126517183
I don't know how they managed to fuck it up so bad.
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>>126517183
I think he meant all of those guys were from RareX before, aren't there anymore.
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>>126517110
I hate ninjas more now, most nin are complete shit.
I think back then there was just not enough options for the edgelords to play, so they all played DRG.

Now they shifted to NIN and DRK.
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>>126517183
it really did..

>>126517223
at least they tried I guess

>>126517231
no I just miss all my friends and ebins of old I feel like big boss at the end of mgs4
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>>126517186
>Imagine if Divine Veil were a 10k party shield.

lol
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>>126517183
HW is a huge letdown, specially the maps.
Who the fuck thought flying was a good idea and these giant maps?
I want small cozy maps where every little corner feels detailed and cozy.
HW maps it's all a huge clump of shit, I don't know a single location besides the city of Foundation to have any sort of personality.

Also they completely fucked up many classes by giving them new mechanics. BLM is totally unfun, BRD/MCH completely unplayable, tanks are a joke specially PLD. DRG has like 200 buttons to press just to look cool, etc.
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>>126517283
Most of those people on your list I still see online though.
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>>126517186
>Imagine if Paladin were broken.
>Imagine casting abilities on a Disciple of War.
>Imagine a weak skill doing little more than it already doesn't.
>Imagine if you were a good enough player to start in Sword Oath.
The rest aside from status effects I'm not sure what you're even trying to propose.
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>>126517313
I've been suggesting that it should be equal to the strength of the cure. Which is about 10k if it crits.

And scholar can already do that. Crit adlos are scary.
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merry christmas xivg

http://puu
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>>126514945
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyx6nWdFas
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>>126517396
>Imagine if you were a good enough player to start in Sword Oath.

Mathematically impossible.
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What healer looks less gay on a male character?

I feel all 3 are pretty gay when casting spells, like WHM holy you do a gay pirouette 360 ballet move like what the fuck.
I just want to heal like a man.
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>>126517456
I lol'd
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>>126517381
>Who the fuck thought flying was a good idea and these giant maps?
All the WoWtards and muh open world people who are in love with huge maps for whatever reason. I'll take carefully constructed smaller maps with many important parts to them than overly huge maps full of nothing any day.

However, I will say that Tailfeather and Moghome do maintain a semblance of identity, particularly if you do the side quests in those regions. Falcon's Nest, Helix, and Camp Cloudtop are just kind of there, though.
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>>126517530
>Mathematically impossible.
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>>126517381
The only HW area I didn't like was Coerthas Western Highlands, the Churning Mist, and Azys Lla because of how much of a mess it is. Other than that they have nice music and some pretty neat areas in them.
HW areas are not as good as the ARR areas but they compensate for being large and having miles better the music.

And for Jobs, that's really subjective. BLM is challenging but fun, I agree about BRD and MCH but people have fun playing it too, the only shit tank right now is PLD because the job designer is still a retard, DRG is easy to play once you get your groove, just list most Jobs.
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>>126517520
This video has no right to be as funny as it is.

The big bang theory has no right to be funny.
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>>126517548
pld brah

protect stoneskin cure clemency divine veil

be the healer that thia game dont seserve brah
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What good is a home when you have no friends
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>>126517401
It doesn't need to do that though because the effect of Divine Veil is already incredibly strong. The only issues with the skill are that the cooldown is too long to line up cleanly with the phase timings in any current fight, and that the shield being triggered by being cured by another player makes the skill unnecessarily clumsy.

What you're proposing would make it broken as hell unless the change also removed its ability to stack with Galvanize or Nocturnal Field.
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>>126517590
By that logic you might as well just provoke off the war after his opener
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>>126517548
There isn't.
Maybe SCH but they have a fairy pet.
Gayest of them all is AST. When you run, you look like a rag doll. The animations are too flamboyantly fabulous.
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>>126517583
>Moghome
Moghome's biggest crime is its poor design.
It's just a big cave with mushrooms and dandelions everywhere. There's nothing visually interesting about it.
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>>126517642
Why do you say that as though it isn't a perfectly acceptable thing to do?
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>>126517642
>mfw my bro and I queue as two lala NINs
>shadewalker each other through the whole dungeon for the laughs
>smokescreen the tank too
>tanks and healers always get really pissed off
>both of us get vote kicked
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>>126517638
>the effect of Divine Veil is already incredibly strong.

It's less than a fucking aspected helios. You have a very strange idea of strong.
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>>126517456
12/10
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>>126517689
>mfw you're bullshitting because smokescreen won't hit tanks
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Hahahahahahahahaha How the fuck is Dragon's Gaze real Hahahaha Nigga just walk away from Thordan like Nigga just turn around hahaha
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>>126517672
It's better than Ok'Zundu, which is such a blad and flat area.
Not like most of the ARR sanctuaries have anything redeeming.
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>>126517638
>Divine Veil is already incredibly strong.
Turbo-meme'd.
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I'm not a hero...
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>>126517753
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>>126517642
I showed you a way to start in Sword Oath full time as MT. Is denial all you have?
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>>126517583
But big maps full of nothing speaks true to real life wilderness. What I hated about ARR zones was that it felt like civilization was always right next to you. 1.0 did the feeling of being in the unknown very well, but they're also too bland. Like, the sanctuaries always look the same, there's less to none interesting landmarks, etc.
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>>126517638
Ok I'm going to explain to you exactly why you're wrong.

Look at Nocturnal AST. Notice how it's fucking garbage because its shields do next to nothing and it eats MP like your mom eats pussy

Now imagine if aspected helios was on a 150 second cooldown.

That's how bad Divine Veil is.
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>>126517756
One thing I did like about the ARR settlements is that every single one had a sidequest-line that really filled you in on the lore of the area. Yes, the HW settlements had them too, but I just feel like the ARR ones did them better.

For example, I can't really recall it too well, but I do remember enjoying the story of the Silver Bazaar quite well. Something about how they owed dues to Ul'dah and you manage to help them out of it.
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>if you don't ERP then it's your fault for being in uldah
>there are people who actually think like this
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>get hit by Dragon's Gaze
>die to Ascalon's Mercy because the healer didn't dispel me
hate shitter healers
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>>126517792
>YoshiP kills off Hauchebro
>Revives some shitty lalafell princess
>Meanwhile HW has come and gone and the Scions are still not reunited
>You're forced to travel all of HW with that whiny cunt Alfonso and Tartarus

GOOD STORY WOULD PLAY AGAIN 10/10
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So on the hunt tracker it says all the S ranks have been up for 2 hours but no one seems to be going for them. Am I missing something?
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So pld a shit?
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>>126517961
>could have had a nice set of adventures with elf bro and elf waifu, resolving the dragonsong war
>instead have to bring the scions back together
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>>126517887
Oh, I remember the Silver Bazaar one when I first played. I think both ARR and HW's settlement sidequests are equal to each other though.
What I liked about HW's settlement side quests was Falcon's Nest, Tailfeather and Anyx Trine though. Brought a tear to my eye..
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>>126518008
ye
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>>126516872
>the last time they did listen to na they created the abomination that is savage
I like how they keep falling into the same traps as WoW.
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>>126517961
>Wanting the Scions back.
Pray return to the Rising Stones. I need you to move my chair over to the fireplace and rub my shoulders. After that we need you to go grocery shopping and pick up our dry cleaning. Then you can scrub the floors.
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>>126517703
It stacks, you fucking idiot. Its relative strength compared to AST/SCH shields is irrelevant because it's not competing with them.

And that aside, Succor and Aspected Helios don't match it in strength without Mantra, Synastry, Fey Illumination, etc. Unbuffed AH will cap out in the 1300-1400 HP range at current gear levels, whereas Divine Veil is a 1600-1800 HP shield.
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>>126517961
But Alphinaud hasn't been whiny at all. He's been such a cutie in HW compared to how much of an arrogant cunt he is in ARR.
Tataru barely joins you in travels.
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Someone post some lalas going to sleep
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>>126517961
FITE ME IF YOU WANT TO TALK SHIT ABOUT TATARU CUNT

HER ANTICS MADE THE MSQ BEARABLE

I WISH IT HAD BEEN ABOUT TATARU FOREVER INSTEAD OF NERDSQUAD MINFITITS AND CO
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>>126517912
It's your fault for rolling on Balmung instead of Gilgamesh.
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>>126499268
What emote is the Praise the Sun emote?
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>>126517961
>Disliking Alphinaud
I will find you and I will accept your difference of opinion.
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>>126518171
someone post lalas that are going to sleep with me
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>>126518251
Shroud of Saints ability
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>>126518090
>It stacks, you fucking idiot
This doesn't make it strong in itself. The word you're looking for is "synergy" with other absorbs.
>And that aside, Succor and Aspected Helios don't match it in strength without Mantra, Synastry, Fey Illumination, etc.
Succour can crit and isn't reliant on being triggered by a outside source. It can also be used more frequently. Its floor can also be raised by buffs, whereas DV is static. The same applies to Nocturnal Aspected Helios.
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>>126518251
Ysayle when she summons Shiva
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>>126518038
>My face every time when Tataru started talking about finding the Scions.
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>>126518273
That's good too
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>Nin relic stats are shit
>Drg relic stats are shit
Why are they doing this?
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>>126518441
To get you to raid.
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>>126518038
Please don't remind me, it hurts ever to this day.

>>126518251
Tetragrammaton, WHM Lv.60 skill.
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>>126518090
How about you actually level a healer so you can see what kind of numbers you're dealing with?

Paladin in full eso has between 14000 and 18000 hp. My aspected helios with void ark and prototype gordian shit is 1100. Keeping in mind AST shields are 130%, making my shields worth 1430 unbuffed, 1716 with synastry. Succor numbers should be a little less.

So yes, it stacks for a whopping 2800 shield most times.

Now let's talk adloquiem. If my adlo does 2300 HP, and I cast it on a warrior, that's already a 2875 shield. Let's say I use Fey Illumination and Mantra. Then it becomes 4140. Now let's say it CRITS. That's a 12420 shield. THAT is potentially what you're competing with here. 1400 hp is NOTHING in the land of shields.

Now let's stack all of PLD's other shortcomings on top of this. Why on earth would you take a PLD if they didn't have SOMETHING strong enough to change the game like this? Do you honestly think a 1400 hp shield is enough to warrant losing nearly 500 raid dps?
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>>126518441
>doing relic for anything but glamour

Clear a4s if you care about bis brah.
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have you seen the film chef
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>>126518485
>adloquiem.
Adloquium.
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>tfw haven't touched savage
>haven't touched thordan
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>>126517912
>If you are in your room/house with a party leader flag it means you are ERPing
I want to fucking kill these people. If you're so obsessed about it then just do it instead of talking about it nigh 24/7
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>>126518480
>Ysayle and Estinien will never have a loving life full of bickering while they both try to rebuild Estinien's lost village and educating both Ishgardian and dragon youths to treat each other well
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>>126518647
>>tfw haven't touched savage>haven't touched thordan
>tfw haven't touched ravana
>tfw haven't touched boypussy in two weeks
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>>126518647
>wanted to do Savage
>story was fucking terrible (compared to coil)
>no desire to slave away for a few secondary stats more
>gear also looks shit
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Who here has everything to 60 and still can't decide what to main for their raids?

Jack of all trades master of none here. You can only invest your weekly tomes on one class so I am all over tha place and forever weak as fuck.
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>>126518961
If only Red Mage exists.
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>>126518441
Because mnk is the true melee dps
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>>126518647
same t b h
I've been invited a lot of time but I just can't find the motivation, I'm full i210 welfare already and on my way for the i210 relic, I can't bring myself to do hard fights without a reward
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>>126518997
If only BLM wasn't spam fire til you run out then spam ice
It's the most retarded mechanic, what's the point of being a master of the elements if it doesn't makea difference if you use Blizzaga on Shiva or Fira on Ifrit?
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>>126519020
you laugh but that's exactly why they're doing it. as a nerf.
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>>126519020
But monk is SO BORING!
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>>126519156
What do you mean boring?

You don't like going 123 456 and positioning everything, while having to mandatory keep a shitty buff, meanwhile about 10 of your skills are literally useless?
It's just like my fightan gaems.
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>>126519096
BLM doesn't spam ice and was never a master of elements here. The master of elements was Conjurer but gave half of the elements to Thaumaturge.
They've also removed the element wheel. It may be a stupid idea but it also avoids skill bloat of 3 or 4 tiers of all 7 elements if you ask me.
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>>126519096
Wow it's like i'm really in 1990. We've moved past archaeic shit like having 3 identical spells and using scan to find out which one to use or just looking it up in a guide.
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>Lightning hair being the only thing separating me from a 2015 shitter
>added to cash shop due to "demand"
Fuck it, just add the 1.0 stuff on the cash shop too, then.
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Is there any channel that posted all of the new story quests?

I am never gonna have everything to 60 I just want to watch the stories.
Also what is your favorite job questline? So far DRK was cool even if a little edgy.
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>>126519232
6 elements rather. And the element divide with Conjurer happened in 2.0.
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>>126519239
>he couldn't figure out elemental weaknesses by himself
shitter
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>>126519096
Fuck is the point of this page?

inb4 "PvP"
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>>126519304
I just want my blue onion helm and Gobbue with a mat on his head, come on SE hurry up I'll pay 50$ for the legacy Gobbue.
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>Tfw celebrating Christmas today
>Can't shitpost
>Annoying family coming over
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>>126519383
it literally is for pvp though. that whole pane got added just for pvp.
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>Tam Tara Hard with new people bonus
I really love it when this happens.
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>>126519383
It's funny cause it's for PvP but a full sleep resistance melded set will only give you a 20% sleep resistance.

Definitely worth it.
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>>126513504
Spear is also good for drg since jump is on a short cd.
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>>126519406
Woops, I meant Elemental Resistances. Since it's the Resistance tab.
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Speaking of PvP
>Time expired :180min

Like why, why can't they have a pvp of smaller maps and do 8v8v8
Or better yet not be bound by grand companies since Adders don't play PvP.
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>>126519383
The stats themselves are 1.0 leftovers, they gave it its own tab when they revamped the displayed stats/info on the other windows. Their only purpose now is PvP pretty much.
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>>126519331
>And the element divide with Conjurer happened in 2.0.
No, it was in 1.20 or close.
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>>126519478
oh. yeah the elemental and slash/pierce/blunt were almost useful once then they decided to ignore it forever.
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>>126519504
The Feast :-DDDDDDDD
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>>126519383
It doesn't even matter in pvp sine you'll either get woken up immediately or you'll die before the full affect of sleep or any other debuff. And slow is shit I don't see a single person use Feint in pvp.
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>>126519504
3.2 WILL save pvp
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>>126519504
>Like why, why can't they have a pvp of smaller maps and do 8v8v8
But they do.

>>126519528
Earlier than that. I showed up at 1.19 and it had already been done. Might have been IN 1.19 since that was the job system patch.
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>>126519504
People actually pvp in this game? I thought everyone agreed that the pvp in this game is shit and is better to play a different mmo if you want your pvp fix?
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>>126519553
Just like the EXP rebalance did.
Just like Secure/Slaughter did.
Just like Seize did.
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>>126519504
we had 8vs8vs8 before 3.0 and it still took around 60 minutes in the morning-afternoon.
I'm so mad at the GC lore bullshit. Holy crap NO ONE gives a shit about that.
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>>126519504
>The grand company you're in effects nothing in the overworld.
>But Yoshi thinks that they need to differentiate them for PvP, one of the least queued for things in DF.
For fucks sake this isn't WoW. Just have people funnel until random GC teams when they queue up. which side you're on doesn't fucking matter and as it is now only creates systems where people refuse to queue because one GC has a premade running that stomps all the queues.
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>>126519528
Oh. I didn't play 1.x that far.
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>>126518879
This, pretty much.
I'd do Thordan but the rewards aren't good enough, there's no learning parties up pre-meteor and if I make one either nobody will come; or if they do they'll be shitters and we'll disband after 2 wipes when some faggot leaves after hours of waiting.

It's too hard to find 8 people to run content in this game. They should start making 5-6 man stuff. eg. 1 tank, 1-2 healers, 3 DPS. Hard dungeons would be nice too; something coil-with-echo difficulty.
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>>126519719
>Hard dungeons would be nice too; something coil-with-echo difficulty.
That would be a good idea, so it's never going to happen.
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I need motivation to level a second class, then a third, then all of them. Halp
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>ffxiv
>pvp
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>>126519610
Why can't Yoshi just go back and fix Secure and Slaughter? I'm sure many people would be playing them if they were at 60 and had the Adrenaline Bar. In fact, they could have tied the new Anima questline to them as well. Make each one drop a different item depending on what you're doing like with Alex normal.
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>>126520031
What's the point if all the classes are shit to play and unfun?
I just craft and gather now while treating xiv as glorified chatroom
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>>126520031
Have friends to do it with you.
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>>126517456
level with friends
level for pretty dressup
level for gameplay (dont level what you dont like)
>>126520050
>tfw i enjoy it
you have to do friday fun nights or something, pvp in this game is not the selling point at all
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>>126520075
>Having friends
>In an online game
What kind of disgusting normie are you
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>>126520061
>STILL no lvl 60 slaughter or secure
>But we have a pvp roulette
Nice job dev team.
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>>126520061

yoshi was afraid of adding fun into the game
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>>126520050
>The worst PvP in an MMO to date.
>There are drones that actually defend it.
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>>126518441
because the other 210 weapons are amazing

just like at DRG. Crit SS AND Crit Det are both options, both of which can work for the drg if he knows what hes doing

expecting the relic to be anything other than ss det was foolish to begin with
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>>126520087
MQ >>126520031
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>>126520145
You don't even PvP. Shut the fuck up.
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>>126520031
since that isn't needed to play, if you don't have motivation it means you don't want to do it, than why would you do it?
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>>126520075
>Ask friend to level with me
>We live in different timezones where she's 9 hours ahead
>Completely shoots past me every time
>Even did it with the 2.0 relic
>Is doing it now with current relic
>She's usually on for a long period of time when I'm on
>Still does it without me even though she said she would do it with me

I just want to end it all
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>>126520145
>pantie shot
hot
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>>126520191

LOL no shit retard, the poster said they thought it was bad, why would they do something they think is bad

also
>proving the point

hue, anyone who has played more than one MMO and has standards would never give the shit pvp in ffxiv the time of day
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>>126520269
What server?
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>>126520145
>Disgusting nigger
I guess i shouldn't be surprised you're retarded
:^)
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Why are casters afraid to use the LB on packs?
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>>126520324
Gilgamesh
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>>126520191
You're talking to someone who literally spends all day in this thread expressing strong, condescending opinions on subjects with no actual relevant experience to back it up.

It's only by coincidence that FFXIV actually does have some of the worst PvP MMOs have ever seen.
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>>126520191
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/125977729/#126000121
I've played enough of this game's PvP to have an opinion on it. It's awful. WoW's PvP is better even given its current Rock Paper Scissors comp nature.
>>126520286
Please. I don't know any other poses that shows them off.
>>126520290
Shh, don't respond to the drone.
>>126520337
>Unironic usage of racial pejoratives.
It's like I'm on /b/.
>>126520369
Except I do have experience.
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>>126520290
>wide-reaching assessment from a person who doesn't even enjoy PvP
Yeah great evidence.

It's very bad, but there are worse implementations I've been subject to.
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tfw worst chrimbus evr
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>>126520395
Why are you citing the reply you gave to me before.
>I've played like ten games in Frontline
>I'm a master on this subject

It's horrible, but there are worse things out there. One such thing is XIV PvE. PvP is at least organic and always fresh.
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>>126520421
mine was pretty shitty too
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>>126520612
>>126520421
me too
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>>126520421
Did you remember to eat your pound of hair for the year? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eESpdAiqqAQ
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if Iuse guildwork will I get banned ?
has it already happened to someone ?
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>>126520612
>pretty shitty
eheheheh
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>>126520710
No
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>>126520578
>Implying you need to be a master to make a comparison.
XIV's PvP has no depth, you can sum it up in its entirety at a cursory glance.
zZz.

>XIV PvE.
We're not talking about PvE, we're talking about PvP.
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>>126520726
wtf
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>>126520215

Just feels so unfinished, in a game where you gotta make a new character for each class I would probably not care, but in this...
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There's a guy in my FC who keeps buying gil and bragging about it on teamspeak if I report him what're the odds he gets banned? Getting tired of hearing how he's so much better geared than we are when dude bought his clears.
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>>126520906
Snitches get stitches faggot.
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>>126520790
wtf?
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>>126520906
Snitches end up in ditches
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>>126520421
i sat at home alone and drank while basking in the glorious warmth of my monitor
overall 7/10 pretty good christmas
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>>126520065

This desu senpai, ffxiv is my comfy chat room I hang out in when I have nothing better to do, the gameplay really is bland and boring and content gets lame after the first clear.

Once you've leveled one class you have basically leveled them all, it's all the same slog.
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>>126520906
Joking aside SE isn't going to do a damn thing about it unless he talks about it in game. Even then he might be able to talk himself out of it or just receive of temp ban.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/5fb8995361d6bd91fdba2886eb55f3534f93cbbb

See? Most accounts are being sucked up for selling but participating (buying) only nets you a temp ban.
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PLEASE HELP

I'm trying to set it so my pet skills are bound to shift+1, shift+2 and shift+3. I've accomplished this by making a macro for each skill, like so:
/micon "Silent Dusk" pet Selene
/aerror off
/pac "Silent Dusk" <t>
/pac "Whispering Dawn"

And this is fine since I mainly use Selene but it's annoying how the icons are greyed out when Eos is summoned, furthermore the icons don't display the skill cooldown timer.

I had two ideas for fixing this, neither of which worked:
1. Toggling overlapped hotbars with a separate pet summon macro [/ac Summon /hotbar display 6 on /hotbar display 5 off] - wont work because there's no way to set a single keybind to two hotkeys
2. Using the [/hotbar action "Skill Name" 3 1] syntax to change hotkeys, but naturally you can't specific pet actions with this command.

Is there any way of doing this that I'm missing?
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