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-LATEST NEWS-

>Persona 20th anniversary festival to take place in 2016
>P5 'special' anime announced
>P5 delayed to Summer 2016
>Falling Down releases on BD on January 20th, 2016
>Winter of Rebirth releases in theaters on January 23rd, 2016
>P4U2 2.02 released in arcades on March 26th, 2015, console release teased

-INFO-
>P5 Info
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-GUIDES-
>General Guide
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>PQ Guide
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>P4U2 Guide/Resources
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-DOWNLOADS-
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
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>Persona image collection
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-MANGA-
>Scans
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>Translated Scans
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First for calcium!
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No Morooka yet?
You're in my shit list senpai
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>>125873598
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>>125873174
Yu and Naoto might be a good detective duobut not as good a spic related.
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7th for naoto
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>>125874996
I dont get it why do people like Naoto? She's uninteresting
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>>125875162
No one likes anyone. Everyone is shitposting.
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>>125874631
Need more
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bump
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You're the killer, anon. Why'd you do it?
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imagine a persona that reflected almighty but was weak to everything else
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>>125878201
That would be amazing
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>>125878175
Because of naotoposting.
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For an LGBT friendly thread.
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>tfw still posting in old thread
>tfw won't start posting in this thread properly till it falls off the board
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>>125878817
Oh. In that case, you're free to go. Have a nice day. This coming from someone who likes Naoto.
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>>125879173
> liking a placeholder character
Step up
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>>125879173
I think a lot of us enjoy Naoto, but her posters tend to just shit up the thread with no actual contribution besides spamming Naoto pics.
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>>125879319
like the OP, just don't mention naotospammers and they'll get bored
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>>125879319
It's just deliberate shitposting. Ignore them and things will go fine.
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>people still using the old thread like a bunch of retards.
>>125878175
Because bitches and whores shitting up this board.
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>tfw they'll never do a follow up video like they promised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG3R76p2-kE
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>>125879787
>mfw triggering naotofags
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even nyx suffers from soejima neck disorder
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>>125879947
not a Naotofags, they are the bitches and whores shitting up this board.
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>>125880309
I do not comprehend
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>Yu and Door-kun's proximity in PQ causes weird shit to happen with the wild card
>Yu and Aigis' proximity in P4A doesn't
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>>125880760
Robots don't count because magic.

Also I think it had something to do with the weird labyrinth they were in and also because reasons.
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>>125880760
>door-kun and Aigis' proximity in the answer doesn't
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Like Chef Boyardee, my rhyme is truly cooking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5M5jIAYalI
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Old threads about to fall off the board so I'm moving my top bants here
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>>125881123
It's no "lyrical dempsey roll" though.
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>>125881215
Adachi top tier dance > naoto shitty dance
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>>125881325
this tbqh lad
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>>125875162
I like tomboys, and reverse traps, but Naoto does nothing for me.

>>125876685
Evangelion, go 2 bed
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>>125882048
>go 2 bed
make me
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FOR MAKING THE MOST OUT OF YOUR TIME!
FOR JUSTICE!
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>>125882048
I haven't seen enough reverse traps to know if this is a thing for me, but i kinda like Naoto.
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>>125882191
Chidori is cute
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>>125882048
>>125882428
Adachi detective skills > Naoto detective skills
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So I heard something about a holiday announcement or whatever? Or is that just /pg/ being /pg/ again
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>>125882191
chihiro is shit in the only game she's not a cameo
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>>125882614
Atlus USA had a page for the holidays with Morgana on it. That's all I saw.
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>>125882428
Naoto is lame to be honest
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>>125882428
Naoto is the worst of the 3 detectives, at least Adachi really pulls off insane really well and is actually capable of detective work
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>>125882683
Right. Well fuck, that's nothing then. Atlus could be a bit more generous with some info. Maybe some shots, or at least a date.
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Coming soon to P5
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>>125882956
>>125882587
Who's talking about detectives here? Not me.
>>125882852
The only reverse traps I know, Naoto and Mutsuki(Toyko Ghoul:re) are fine, but in some points they're simply disappointing.
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>>125880760
>Yu and Aigis' proximity in P4A doesn't
Yu and Aigis and Liz and Sho's. Ultimax had 4 Wild Cards running around and nothing happened.
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>>125883210
I'm comparing Naotos character to the 2 most similar characters and they're both better
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>>125883272
Elizabeth only awoke hers at the end of her story, and I'm not sure you can really count Sho.
Still, nothing happened.
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>>125883391
Liz is a wildcard in P3 though?
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What do topsicles taste like?
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>>125883210
Reverse traps arent exactly new. you could do better
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Yumi is best girl
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>>125883521
Her and Margaret use the compendium in battle. Liz's arcana in P3 is the World, and Death in Arena. It only becomes Fool at the end.
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>>125883564
I wish I could get a Yukiko flavored topsicle.
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>>125883640
>dad issues girl
>best
OK :)
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>>125883651
oh, I thought it was a wildcard
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>>125883640
She actually has pretty big boobs compared to everyone else.
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>>125883737
everything about her is cute
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the soul phrase animation in p3p kinda fucks me up
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>>125883391
At the end of her story in Arena. She's a Wild Card for entire Ultimax. You definitely can count Sho.
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>>125884138
If you flip it upside down it changes to FeMC's perspective
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>>125883828
Not really from what we see here. Then again, Persona models. Don't even try.
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>>125883828
literally perfect
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>>125884209
Sho was a Wild Card? Some villain he is, not just unleashing the whole fucking compendium on everyone's asses
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>>125884209
You could probably kinda count Adachi too, come to think of it...
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>>125884332
>expecting anything in ultimax to be good
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>>125884224
that fucked me up
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>>125884420
Not really. Unless the definition of wild card is evolving.
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>>125884546
Way you could look at it, Adachi rejected the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP, therefore also rejecting wild card power.
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>>125884546
If Yu got the wildcard from Izanmi's touch then Adachi should have right?
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>>125884654
Could technically change tho, seeing as both Jester and Fool is 0. Then again, Adachi went full on Hunger, so he's fucked
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Reminder Tatsuya had the biggest focus on bonds out of anyone.
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>>125884765
By that logic, Namatame would be one, too, but he never got a Persona. It seems like Izanami gives a character the opportunity to be one.
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>>125884853
Namatame may have been, he kind of went mad and managed to merge with a fair few shadows.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
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>>125884951
What I'm trying to say is I think Adachi and Namatame could have been wild cards, but I don't think they ever actually awakened to being one.

>>125884984
Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?
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>>125885048
I'm curious about what enabled Yu and door-kun to be wildcards, they both "awakened" to it before they'd really had an opportunity to do things. I don't buy that Izanami specifically chose Yu to be one.
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>>125884853
He never got to use his Persona, probably didn't know he had one. That doesn't mean he didn't have one.
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>>125884765
Yu didn't get Wild Card from Izanami, he was summoned to the VR and signed the contract before he moved to Inaba.
>>125884332
He gets it in True End, at the end of side P4.
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>>125885264
Philly Cheesesteak's involvement

Yu was in the Velvet Room before he met Izanami
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>>125885264
Well, they did end up in the situations that led to their ability's awakening by their own accord. (Door-kun taking Yukari's evoker, Yu going into the TV)
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>>125885421
>>125885376
I get that the wildcard has to do with the Velvet room but why did they get picked for it, a single contract isn't an explanation either
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>>125885264
I don't think Izanami really "chose" anyone so much as it was "Okay, here's 3 outsiders coming to this town. Let's give them a gift and watch the fireworks." But I think it was more their attitude.

Which is just speculation on my point, as none of this is something Atlus will ever explain.

>>125885292
Which, in my eyes, makes him not have one. Or at least awakened to it, if we want to put it that way.

>>125885376
Yu's contract was with Teddie. Does he ever sign one with the VR?
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>>125885421
What if the VR calls Yu early because they know he will become one because beyond the laws of time and space?
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>>125885456
Actually, Door-kun's would be signing the contract Pharos slid under his nose. That's probably the weirdest part, he does it for no reason whatsoever.
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>>125882191
I read that as "making out" and was about to call you out for being lewd
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>>125885648
I think he thought it was related to the dorm, the dialogue option after even mentions the contract and the dorm.
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>>125885529
>Okay, here's 3 outsiders coming to this town.
She never said it was three, it could have been more but only Adachi, Yu and Namatame got involved.
>Yu's contract was with Teddie. Does he ever sign one with the VR?
At the beginning of his story mode in Arena he signs another contract by just saying his name and he points out in his inner monologue that it's just as before.
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This discussion on the wild card has revealed to me that even the core of (modern) Persona games is made up on the fly and isn't consistent
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>>125885656
>Making out with Time
Lewd. Do not make out with Time Count
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>>125885980
Actually, i read the whole thing as
>for making out most of your time!
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>>125885972
That's mostly caused by the spinoffs being retarded fanfiction, yet still canon.
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>>125885972
Welcome to Persona in general. Nothing is ever explained.

>>125885794
She specifically mentions she did it to outsiders. And she lists those three, representing three ideals. I mean, I suppose in theory some random guy passing through might have been given the touch he's got the power and then moved away immediately, but I doubt it.
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>>125886089
As long as they're never mentioned again they're functionally not canon
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>>125885529
>Which, in my eyes, makes him not have one. Or at least awakened to it, if we want to put it that way.
Izanami awakened him to his Persona though. That's why he could enter the tv world. It's the same way Yu didn't know about his Persona until he fought in that tutorial fight. Namatame didn't need/get to find out about his Persona since Kunino stepped in to help him, in the same way Ameno did with Adachi and Izanagi-No-Okami with Yu (to carry out/represent their desires)
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>>125886240
Adachi still had a persona though, he/ameno just corrupted it or something
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>>125886303
And Adachi awakened to it. That doesn't mean Namatame couldn't.
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>>125886363
No one is saying that he couldn't, but rather that he didn't. Namatame had the potential, but never used it.
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It always astounds me how little of a shit professional writers give about lore/story consistency.
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>>125886562
Why should they?
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>>125886669
I dunno, some manner of self-respect?
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>>125886562
Depends on the writer
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>>125886363
I know, I agree that Namatame could've had a persona
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why is she so perfect lads?
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>>125886707
Do all stories need it? What if it's not the part of the story the audience is meant to care about? Much of the magic in these stories is meant simply to advance the plot.
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>>125888174
depends on the story, something that relies on worldbuilding will need consistency more than something that relies on characters
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>>125888174
Most of the time inconsistencies are unnecessary. It just makes the writing look sloppy.
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>>125888252
Which is true, and I think Persona relies more on the latter.

>>125888323
The thing about Persona writing is that almost nothing is ever explained in any real detail. Everything is vague and a god did it or magic did it. There is no universal standard for how magic or things work in Persona beyond "reality is shaped in part by what people think." The few characters who COULD explain things in more detail generally wouldn't.
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>>125886562
plot is not the primary element of fiction
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>>125886067
LEWD!
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>>125888540
>tfw pic was my post
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I like Fuuka.
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>>125888540
le trickey long nosed man strikes again
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Do the animu cutscenes in the regular P4 into actually get used anywhere?
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>>125888919
It's the quickest answer to any "Why does X work/happen in Persona?"

>>125889023
The obvious answer is to dogpile Igor and make him give detailed lecture on the nature of reality. Or that substitute teacher, if Igor is unavailable.
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>>125889218
Not that i remember, they do show some offscreen stuff though, like Kanji beating up the biker gang and Naoto being angry in an interview.
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>>125889218
You mean in Pursuing My True Self? Nope. Those are straight made up for the opening.
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>>125889263
he's tricky though, he'dprobably just magic away
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>>125889427
Which one? Igor or the teacher?
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>>125889414
>>125889406
I was hoping I'd missed them, some of the girls are qt in them.

When does the Chie one happen?
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>>125889006
same tee bee eitch
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Kanji made you a Jack Frost doll for Christmas. All he wants in return is for you to take him seriously as a character and not view him as comic relief.

Deal or no deal?
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>>125890412
>and not view him as comic relief.
This is the stupidest complaint /pg/ has come up with in a long-ass time.
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>>125890412
Ha, joke's on you, i do take him seriously, he's my favorite character.
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>>125890412
Kanji isn't a comic relief character, Teddie is, Kanji is not
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>>125890559
>>125890679
>>125890686
He's a cuck and you are supposed to laugh at his stupidity.
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>>125890862
Fuck off with your meme words /v/
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>>125890978
>cuc.k
>/v/
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>>125890978
cuck originally hails from /tv/ my uneducated friend, get your boards right.

I get that people here selfinsert into Kanji because they can relate to him having a crush on a girl way out of his league that ends up with his much more attractive friend, while also having homolust feelings for said friend. Kanji is still a cuck and a loser you are supposed to laugh at, it's that simple.
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>>125891338
>naoto
>out of anyones league
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>>125890862
>>125891076
>>125891338
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>>125891483
Its not a meme from /v/, theres more than one shitty board on 4chan.
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this is the future you chose
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reminder that its Yu's fault that Adachi turned into the killer
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>>125891683
Actually, I ordered the future with a few improvements.
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>>125891828
I'm afraid the future has been stuck in shipping, please wait until tomorrow.
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>>125891476
>implying anyone here would have a chance with Naoto.
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Gimme an "F"
Gimme a "U"
Gimme a "C"
Gimme a "C"
Gimme a "B" "O" "I"

What's that speeeeelll?!
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>>125891919
Unless this general is populated by primordial ooze, everyone here would have a chance with Naoto
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>>125891967
Main Character?
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>>125891076
>>125891338
>>125891621
Please crawl back to whatever meme board you came and take your shitty meme words with you you meme loving fags.
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>>125892007
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>>125892259
>he doesn't love memes
haha its just banter lad haha
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>>125892289
>naotofag triggered so hard he used to fedorapic
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>>125892568
i meant a, ive had a bit to drink
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>>125893173
Bashing waifu's and day-drinking, you are truly living the dream.
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bump!
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>>125893894
I'm european, its not day drinking but yes, I truly am
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>>125889006
I like you
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you know the steak
cause high stardom is near
im not a chiefag this joke just popped into my head
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>>125895969
T-thanks, y-you too
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>>125896653
chie likes steak and loves yukiko
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>>125884765
post more nami
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>>125896721
>not posting the full pic
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>>125896936
ok
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>>125896958
poor rise, she just wants to love Yu
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>>125896936
>they didn't bother changing portraits for male and female izanami ingame
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>>125897524
don't we all?
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>>125897748
the moel worker was still female
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Nyarlathotep, Nyx, and Izanami did nothing wrong: they could have stopped Ultimax.
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>>125900231
>they could've stopped another p4 spinoff
>they didn't
that's what they did wrong
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>>125900496
No, Philemon is who sabotaged them. He's to blame for Ultimax.
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>>125900680
no
they should've fucking tried harder
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>>125900496
They tried to stop it.
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Yu should have won the fucking crossdressing pageant.

Teddie bear -ly did anything besides putting on a dress. Narukami's outfit and look was unique and creative and should have won.
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>>125901056
it was decided by popular vote wasn't it? makes sense that sheer execution would count for more than concept in that case
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>>125901056
>>125901647
doesnt teddie literally use a charm spell
it's not directly stated but it's somewhat likely
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>>125901056
>>125901647
Just like how Naoto won by getting the female vote, Teddie won by getting the male vote.

"I'd hit it..." guy said it best.
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>>125900496
I'm glad they didn't
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>>125900875
Can you really blame Izanami? She's much lower on the power totem pole than Philemon.

Nyarlathotep and Philemon are equals, but function like a lewd married couple. And Philemon cheated.

Nyx should have tried harder since she's a being outside of the power levels of Philly and the VR.
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>>125901056
Japs don't understand the art of drag, Alice Teddie is just a trap and didn't deserve to win.

2/10 wouldn't hire for pantomime
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What are the hourly wages at Junes? How does it compare to Satomi Tadashi?
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>>125901847
As long as it's cute, man. Also, Japanese schoolgirls get that schoolgirl lesbian thing.
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>>125902375
Wages at Junes range from Plot conveniently slim to motor bikes, beach parties and private ski lodge for a weekend

but seriously, during plot events you get 10,000 a day, although Yosuke claims that he lobbies for you to get "extra pay"
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>>125902375
Well Junes is a Wal-mart, when STP is more of a CVS/Walgreen.

I'm not an expert on this, but I think Walmart probably pays worse than CVS/Walgreens.

>>125902606
I think that's only because Yosuke is the manager's kid.
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>>125903380
Walmart pays fuck all and its a disgrace America lets it continue to do that
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Why did they steal a week of my summer vacation for no reason? why did they steal a week of my winter vacation for no reason?

All this shit does is artificially inflate the difficulty of a max S-link run. They were already aiming for some pretty maximum comfy levels, they should at least have made the summer internment camp optional in case you actually wanted to do something productive with that time.
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>>125904143
Mitsuru is actively working against SLinks. Don't believe the Kirijo Group's lies.
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>>125904143
You only have to do summer school if you failed the exams
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>>125904143
They don't want you to s-link.
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>>125904409
No you have to do summer school in P3 even if you aced them.
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>>125904409
What a flagrant lie. She made me take summer school despite me passing it.

Fucking bitch.
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>>125904819
She just wants whats best for your future
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>>125901790
damn
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Soon I will be one year in /pg/
And I must say that I regret every single day
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>>125905960
>Only one year
You know nothing of true suffering.
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>>125906046
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>>125905960
and in one year /pg/ will be in the midst of an apocalyptic waifu-war because of P5.

You have one year, go forth without falter with your heart as your guide.
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>>125906460
What will his initial persona be?
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>>125906460
Peaceful days have died
Let's survive
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>>125906743
*muffled "Period" in distance*
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>>125906460
I'll s.link with this guy if it will solve my petty personal issues
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>>125906974
We drain mudo?
Are we also immune to almighty?
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>>125908816
No, but we null fun.
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It is good to be the king.
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>>125910236
>Naoto is just a hat

Wish Naoto had an option in the king's game.
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>>125910236
Poor Kanji
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>>125910726
She does, at the end she kills the mood for everyone with her secrets thing.
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>>125910873
Kanji is the luckiest one there.
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>>125901056
Naoto dressed up Teddie, that's why he won, since she is the best at everything.

>>125896958
Translation on the last 4 panels:
>Naoto: Why are you carrying me Senpai?!?!
>Yu: Because you are objectively the best girl and the canon romance as of DAN, that's why I'm carrying you.
>Rise: Can't argue with that logic.
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>>125907498
What about deep emotional scars? You might need two silent main characters for those.
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>>125902583
>that schoolgirl lesbian thing.
2 cute
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You blue idiot
You ate all the eggs
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>>125912402
2 pure
2 perfect
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>>125912402
They'll grow out of it.
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>>125913557
Well, until they grow up and get married of course. That's how the Japanese lesbian schoolgirl thing is supposed to go, you know.
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>>125911460
The worst thing that's happened to me was when I once posted a thought-out reply and it killed a thread, I'll be fine.
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>>125913676
I like to ignore that bit.
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>>125913707
the hell are you doing on a /vg/ thread for a single player jrpg that hasn't had an new mainline installment for years if thats the worst thing thats happened in your life?
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Who writes Rise's music
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>>125914267
If they had to give a name I'd say it would probably just be Shoji Meguro. No real reason he can't exist in universe.

However all her songs on the official soundtracks have the metainformation list "Rise Kujikawa" as the composer as if she's a real person, so in universe they are probably composed by the company that manages her and it has her named stapled to it.
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>>125905960
>tfw you remember when /smtg/ was one big happy autistic family
>tfw you remember the day we tried to merge with EOG

I've been here too long.
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>>125915082
>the day we tried to merge with EOG?
What was the reasoning? I'm curious.
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>>125911221
Is Naoto best at being a boy? Or at being a slut? The town's bicycle? At ending the world?
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>>125915082

I want to merge with /smtg/
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>>125915032
its almost certainly done by a team of shadowwriters in the music company
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>>125914163
I guess I've learned to value the little things senpai
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>>125915702
IGNORE THE NAOTOPOSTERS
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>>125913676
Its to be expected, humans don't deserve something so pure and wonderful anyway.
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>>125915710
I want to merge with you.
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>>125915871

thats lewd
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>>125915958
Don't cry, I'll be gentle.
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>>125915818
>>125912402
sauce? image searchers don't seem to like that pic
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>>125916257
Persona 1
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>>125916257
Those are Pixiv names.
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>>125915702
Best at not dying
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>>125917594
That would be Nyx, even when defeated very hard she just goes back to sleep, I'm sure if Naoto got shot in the face several times she'd be fairly dead
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>>125917594
Actually she's the only character you can be in contact with when they die. nanako doesn't count
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>>125917594
that's Nanako
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>>125917803
But every time Naoto dies she un-dies
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>>125917832
>naoto's death scream
I just remembered and my dick got hard as diamonds.
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>>125917832
I think she qualifies as the Persona character who can be seen to die the most, even if none of them stick.

Unless the principal from P2 counts.
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>>125918002
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>>125918308
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>>125917832
How come the world only ends if you don't catch Adachi after accusing him but not finding out its him just has you leave sad.
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>>125918308
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>>125918856
When you accuse him you force him into the TV, where Ameno-Sagiri awakens to his power.
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>>125918856
Obviously there's no actual given reason but if you wanted to come up with an explanation it'd probably have to do with the fact that Adachi is in the TV world actively thinking about how the world's ending in situation 1 and in situation 2 he's just chilling outside
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>>125921081
Mucky
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>>125921081
The worst human being
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>>125921775
Mary
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Rise makes my _____ rise!
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>>125921968
anger
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>>125921968
Rise makes Rise? Is she a clone?
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>>125921968
Risefags don't have _____s though
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rate my oc
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>>125921968
Seeing Rise work hard encourages me.
It makes me feel like I can still hang in there.
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>>125922240
You don't have nothing

Shiiiiiiit, pass the leaf brah. That's deep.
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>>125921917
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