Discussion about the making or playing of Original English Language Visual Novels.
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hi JP
>>124627697
I hate all of you
>>124627970
we hate you too Taosym
>>124627697
That's the stupidest OP image I've seen in a while, I must say.
Grapes are a shit tier fruit anyway.
I was shitposting that no one cares about music, but I honestly do think royalty-free is good enough for most cases.
Better music is great if you have the right connections and direction to make the most of it. It's certainly worth it if you're commissioning new music from an artist you love and want more stuff from. But it's not something that your EVN needs to succeed, and it can often go completely unremarked.
>>124630408
I wasn't shit posting. I was being 100% completely serious.
Post progress.
Shitposter-kun, where art thou?
Threadly reminder to NAME AND SHAME (con)artists.
When is HRP supposed to be finished? Did the writer ever say if he was going to cut back on all the filler?
>>124636834
They said they would, but who knows.
>>124636834
HRP dev here.
There are six writers, each responsible of a route. We've also changed the Act 1 (demo) in hopes of making it more efficient and character driven rather than the "waifu slideshow" it was before. We think it works much better now.
We'd like for the full game to be released around the end of next year or early 2017.
>>124637276
>There are six writers, each responsible of a route
Doesn't that usually turns into a clusterfuck?
>>124637435
It can be, yeah. Thankfully, all of the route outlines have been written and we've all been turning in scenes in a timely manner.
>>124637276
>making it more efficient and character driven
Compared to every one else's shitty, non-efficient, and "waifu slideshow" games here, huh? Just what this thread needed, another dumb ass Dev who thinks they're better than everyone. Just when I thought we were over with this shit last thread, some other asshole comes swooping in their own all mighty glory, better than thou, attitude.
>>124638084
>Compared to every one else's shitty, non-efficient, and "waifu slideshow" games here, huh?
No, compared to their own shitty non-efficient demo that nobody ilked.
>>124638347
> not recognizing a troll
>>124638347
>>124638380
So going against the all mighty HRP dev is trolling now? I thought this was 4chan, a place where you can actually criticize others without being "policed" but apparently ML anon and HRP anon are beyond the touch of mere mortals.
>>124638380
Do you have anything better to talk about? Until then, we may as well respond politely to troll posts.
>>124638615
Tea?
Thanks for openly posting HRP dev. Please take this constructive criticism: if you're going to post updates about Highway Blossoms, post it on the Highway Blossoms site. Vice versa for HRP. I almost missed those adorable chibis/news because I don't check HRP's site, and I'm sure it could also be the case for people who don't check Highway Blossom's site talking about HRP's 3rd dimension.
It's okay if you copy and paste the information and make it relevant to the project, but if you want to have two different blogs, keep them for two different projects.
>>124640106
Ah, yeah. Sorry about that one. I think the logic there was to make a giant grand post. We generally try to keep the two sites separate for the sake organization. From now on, if there's any kind of details that cross over from HB and HRP we'll make sure the info is shared on both blogs.
There will probably be another HB blog within the next few days depending on a few factors. When that happens, you can definitely expect it to be on its respective site.
so I'm working on something that is classed as an /evn/
Where's. good place to find idea guys for the actual story?
>>124644189
http://writingexercises.co.uk/plotgenerator.php
>>124644734
Great gay romance novel plot.
>>124644734
That sounds cute.
>>124644734
>>124644952
>60 years old
Too old, bishie factor not high enough.
>>124644189
if you don't even have an idea guy how much 'work' have you actually done?
>An overbearing 23 year-old man
>A decisive 20 year-old woman
>The story begins on a train
>A political demonstration turns into chaos
>It's a story about rivalry
>Your character sets out to change everyone's opinion
Mite be cool.
>tfw this story will never be written
A generous 18 year-old woman
A manipulative 30 year-old woman
The story begins in a cellar
A 30-year old murder case is resurrected
It's a story about loss of innocence
Your character is tested to the limits of physical endurance
>>124646410
Pretty sure I saw a porn like that once.
>>124644952
>>124645506
>two brothers fall in love
>story begins with them fugging in an alleyway
>blood test shows they're not related
>opportunity for a new life together
>the older brother accidentally dislocates his jaw trying to suck the younger brother's massive monster cock
Time to get those fujoshi dollars. Who knew it was this easy?
>corpse fucking
>>124636834
>When is HRP supposed to be finished?
Never.
Why do evn's have such shitty art?
>>124650942
Really? Dutch angle?
>>124650942
[something about budget]
>>124650942
You're welcome to learn to draw and work for free to show us how it's be done.
>>124651068
What's wrong with dutch angles?
>>124652005
Extreme dutch angles for no reason are disorienting and create a sense of wrongness which does not fit with romantic moe.
>>124652090
Maybe it's a parallel world where he just found out his imouto really isn't his imouto.
>>124652090
That one alters the composition of the CG to put a bigger focus on the character. If it was straight, you'd have a huge amount of empty space on both sides which would take up 2/3rds of the CG. This way you are focused entirely on the character, which also allows for minimal background details - look how bland they are.
>>124652421
This is part of why widescreen has not been good for VNs. Trying to get rid of empty space is good but in a lot of hands it ends up with the CGs feeling warped, and the bigger focus on the character actually makes her harder to see properly.
>>124652672
This is actually a pretty bland CG, though, unless there's more emotional variations. Maybe just a bad choice on the creator's part.
I hadn't considered the widescreen aspect, though. That's a very interesting point.
>>124636407
Why do you keep posting this when not a single person has fulfilled your request?
>>124653330
It's a good idea, but I suppose there isn't much point if nobody plans to take advantage.
> http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=36013
Hanako poached that derpy faced artist from WC lol
>>124653330
I think it's a meme at this point.
>>124653507
>only brown person is a maid
Hanakogames continues their campaign against marginalized groups. First transphobia, now racism? smdh
>>124653507
What?
>>124654015
I hate to say it but that is marginally kind of messed up.
>>124653507
Why are all yuri games loli shit? What happened to 16+ teenaged/grown women that aren't ugly as sin and made by tumblr? I can't fap to this shit.
>>124653507
I honestly thought ebi-hime had posted this. Is she the writer?
HEY
>>124654015
It isn't like the story takes place in Victorian England or anything...
>>124657027
WHAT A WONDERFUL KIND OF DAY
>>124657517
>POC didn't exist in England
>>124657517
I doubt the game would be that historically accurate that it warranted putting the one brown skinned girl into the slave role and not as a wealthy character.
>>124657517
Not a fan of people altering historical attitudes when they go back and do this. It gives people an incorrect vision of history, and whitewashes many of the attitudes peple once had. It was an age where black people were low on the social ladder, and terrible as it was, to portray it otherwise would be to pretend the problem never existed.
>>124654295
Don't you fucking dare
>>124657821
In high end Victorian England boarding schools? Sure, mate, whatever helps you get angry at night.
>>124657961
It says she is a maid, not a slave. They don't always equal out that way.
Why are EVN fans so sensitive?
>>124658356
Who are you talking about? Literally only two people are buttmad about the servant, quit making something into a bigger deal than it actually is.
>>124658469
But if we don't make it a bigger deal what are we going to talk about?
Why are all EVN devs SJW scum?
>>124658727
Most of us are young people, with different attitudes to writers in other media, who tend to be older.
That said, are there any attitudes in particular you dislike?
>>124658317
Inb4 none of the girls dress in a way that is appropriate for the Victorian era, the backgrounds all use modern architecture, and lesbians are running around muff diving random people, but yeah lets put the brown girl in her proper station in this accurate historian approved tale.
>>124658992
Ideally they'd go all the way with it, or they'd add in a clear acknowledgement "This tale makes no attempt to be historically accurate."
>>124654015
Don't worry, if you know the original book there are several more brown servants yet to be revealed!
>>124658356
The first person who brought it up intentionally brought it up as a joke because I'd talked about it before as an issue. You just aren't reading enough threads to recognise it.
Alsonah, it's too soon to point it out
>>124638084
Why are you constantly trying to start this shit?
I'm making fish sticks right now, what else is everybody eating?
>>124660360
Your mom.
>>124644189
>actually wanting idea guys
Well this is new
>>124660360
Some nice roasted chicken and potatoes.
>>124660352
I think it was a joke.
I hope it was a joke.
>>124660360
Nothing. Drinking black coffee.
>>124660352
It wasn't me. I just hated that particular sentence and then walked away.
>>124660797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUMDXM1vwd0
>>124660352
I'm not starting shit. I just don't like it when people act all high and mighty.
>>124660885
It seemed pretty fair. He was discussing a way he was trying to improve his own project, not how it relates to anyone elses.
>>124654335
>What happened to 16+ teenaged/grown women
Black Closet?
>that aren't ugly as sin and made by tumblr?
... Sakura Fantasy?
>>124660952
I feel a strange mixture of class and seediness.
>>124661592
Now channel that into your H.
>>124661531
>Black Closet?
Not that anon but I'd say that falls into his next listed complaint.
>>124662039
that was the point of the joke, splitting it up into two lines. keep up.
>>124661680
I rest my tophat on the bedside, tear off my clothes, and insert my dick with grace and aplomb.
"Exquisite" I tell the three dollar Chinese prostitute.
Finished my fish sticks. They were alright.
My new character design is going somewhere nice but there's still a few things that are weird looking to me. Designing nice chara is hard
>>124663223
Post it and maybe you can get some feedback to help you out.
>>124636407
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>>124663204
Forgot to finish my coffee, now it's cold.
Still gonna drink it.
My artist drew the protag of my story and he's so cute it hurts. It's such a good feeling to see my characters on paper like they are in my head...
One day, I'll have the balls to show you all.
>>124663204
I had risotto with truffle oil.
>>124663793
Ganbarre, mysterious dev-kun.
>>124663793
>It's such a good feeling to see my characters on paper like they are in my head...
It really amazes me how artists I commission can do that. I give them a few refs, a paragraph description, and she comes back with just what I wanted. Sometimes it's more than what I wanted and I didn't know it yet. That's skill
>>124657821
>using POC
>>124664128
Isn't that what they're for, to be used?
>>124664043
Thank you, anon!
>>124664093
It's some magical bullshit. I hope all devs get to experience this feeling with their artist and project.
>>124663865
>truffle oil
The absolute madman.
How come there is such a huge divide of quality between Blind Griffin and BCM (and I mean the new and updated art of BCM)?
>>124665289
Different style guide probably.
>>124663351
With all the shit flinging and insults, I'm not surprised these threads are so barren of people bold enough to post their stuff.
>>124666871
I don't think it's as much that as past a certain point, posting material is going to be spoilers. Anything I'm happy to release I'd do in a blog post anyway, which I might then link here.
>>124658727
>/evn/
>not two /pol/acks ironically shitposting at each otherI know you're here, other guy
>>124663793
That day should be today. It would sure be nice if we actually felt like we could share our stuff without requiring softball sized cojones, and actually get some thoughtful feedback. If you believe in that artist and you love what they've done, what is there to fear?
Even the most avid shitposter should at least recognize and show some respect for the bravery it would take.
>>124667194
I don't really understand what's going on without seeing the context of the rest of the project.
>>124666871
Sadly sometimes even when the person being supposedly insulted knows perfectly well it's a joke and isn't upset about it anons who don't get it get upset on their behalf and we all get progressively grumpier
>>124667261
>show respect
You're new to 4chan, aren't you?
>>124667305
I don't understand what's going on either. I just post images.
>>124667140
I doubt posting a one or two sprites, backgrounds, or songs could be considered spoilers. I mean look at this thread. There is nothing.
And then there's this post
>>124663793
>>124667261
Nah, it's a better idea just to post on a forum where people actually have usernames. People can easily be jerks here or shit on each other's projects without any repercussion whatsoever.
>>124667194
I hope that Shadow Demon has his Shadow Poison maxed, otherwise he's welcome to get reported.
>>124667171
Failed to detect the presence of another one. Oh fuck I just blew my cover.
>>124667506
As a writer, everything I post is a spoiler, so there's that.
>>124665289
I think it's because she didn't want to totally re-do all old work in the new style so she had to create this dumbed down hybrid? Like other anon said her style guides were probably a lot more solid in BG.
>>124667595
On the other hand, if you have usernames you can't say what you think without it being a big deal that others will judge you for.
Really, you want both. Anonymous comments allow for trolls but they also allow for people to say what they think without getting so tangled up worrying about whether they're saying it right that they say nothing at all.
Public personal comments tend to filter for niceness because fewer people want to be a dick with their name attached, but if no one comments about the things they don't like those things can't be fixed.
Ideally you find people you trust to give you good honest opinions in private but not everyone can be ideal.
>>124668124
My team serve that job, though. We're pretty open when we don't like something. Basically, there's actually not that much I'd get out of sharing work here.
>>124667903
I'm going to post my whole prototype here just because I've got no idea how to get people on board other than this.
>>124668297
I admire your bravery, anon.
>>124668273
Not everyone has a team. Or friends. All of yall browsing right now are all I got.
>>124668567
We secretely love you, anon. Have this fluffy toy man as a reminder.
>>124668784
at least it's not pedobear
>>124668842are you a cute loli?
i just had sex everyone
>>124669123
Did you pay her with your dev funds?
>>124668784
Thanks senpai.
>>124669105i eat lolis for dinner
I hate all of you and can't wait to play your games.
>>124667350
Just still optimistic.
I'm not really an /evn/ regular by any means, having just started my own project fairly recently, but I've been browsing 4chan for far longer than I care to admit.
>>124667595
I like hearing what people are really thinking without them worrying about potential repercussions. Of course it'd be nice if that didn't just mean a barrage of "it's shit, you suck", but even that can potentially tell you something about your project, or how you're viewed as a person.
>>124669123
>i just had sex
Oh boy, here we fucking go again. I guess everyone here is a fucking loser virgin then? How full of yourself do you have to be to believe that you're the only one gettin' the pumpum here? Fuck off you presumptuous twat.
>>124669352
Are you that fellow from the other day who was talking about the empire VN?
>>124667595
Forums fucking suck. They all tiptoe around their words, and are always polite and encouraging even if they really think your project is shit. Never give real criticism, just "wow, that's great!" or "good job!" Or they never say anything. I'd choose this place over a forum any day.
>>124669368
I still can't tell if you're joking.
>>124669615
Try harder.
>>124669123
Prepare for a life of misery from now on.
>>124669590
When does this place ever give an in depth dissection of a VN, though?
>>124669883
Post yours and I'll get deep inside it.
>>124669441
Nah, but I have posted a few screens and a quick sketch from the project I've been working on a few threads back and am currently following several anon's advice, one of which is to color my art in order to show my dedication and make it more presentable.
You guys seemed helpful enough to me, despite these bouts of funposting.
It can't. Give it more subjects to dissect. It's been pretty much shitposting about the same projects/games over and over again.
>>124669883
Lots of times. It's just that recently nobody has been posting anything or asking for critique. It's all filled with vague statements of "Typed 1k words today" or people arguing/talking about other peoples visual novels that have yet to come out.
the sex was good
>>124670203
>the sex was good
Here. We. Fucking. Go. Again.
What kind if EVNs sell?
>>124670280
Chill, mate.
>>124670438
Those with tits.
>>124670629
But BL doesn't have tits.
>>124670756
BL doesn't sell.
>>124670756
Not with that attitude!
>>124670975
I'm assuming you were responding to >>124670934
but it's far funnier the way it is now.
Do culturally diverse EVNs sell more?
>>124671510
Not really. If they're diverse as in the characters are japanese/white? Then yeah. Black/indian/etc? Not really.
>>124671510
If they an un-diverse size for tits (spoiler: huge).
>>124671510
Do they have big tits?
>>124671510
Do they have little tits?
Has /evn/ created a vn together yet?
>>124672924
>has anyone in /evn/ created a vn yet?
ftfy
>>124672924
There was talk during the yuri jam, but I never saw anything.
>>124672924
>>124673037
Yes, for the yuri jam. It was posted before, I don't have the link anymore.
>>124672753
>>124672920
Boat people about to be sent to Poland.
>>124670438
Tits, or gimmicks, or ones that are actually good.
>>124673037
>>124673083
Did anyone play the games from yurijam? There looks to be over 30.
Man purrfectly ever after has the most nonsensical story even for otome standards but that art is so nice
>>124674768
Most were really bad but there was a princess one and a brothel rpg thing that people liked. There's also this one but it was pretty terribly written.
>>124675342
name?
>>124675342
How badly written? Grammar, story idea, what?
>>124675408
Fruit Punch!!!
Why are boobs so hard to draw
>>124675857
>>124674768
A couple have been discussed in the yuri games threads on /u/, try https://archive.loveisover.me/u/thread/1909819/
>>124675854
>How badly written? Grammar, story idea, what?
Yep hit all the bad points. Honestly it's free to play and on itch so go see for yourself.
>>124674768
I downloaded Syrup and the Ultimate Sweet, lost interest in the text in five minutes, and just looked through the assets. It's really cute.
>>124676840
>just looked through the assets
you and me both, senpai.
>>124676840
I wish the dialog font had been a little more readable
It's only 2 am, ya fuckin' lightweights. No sleepin' allowed. Wake up!
>>124679675
It's 6pm. I'm busy writing.
>>124679910
Fix your time foreigner, it's 2:08 here in the U S OF A aka the only time that matters.
>>124679675
... Is it common practice to stay up late? I personally can't stand it. I wake up groggy and it affects everything I do the next day.
>>124680219
I stay woke to 3 am, then get up 9 am, go to class then night shift work, then get home, repeat. I don't think it's extremely common but I know there's some others who are similar to my schedule.
>>124680219
Was going to bed at 1 and waking up at 7am this year. Drank four coffees a day, though.
On break I usually sleep at 4am and wake at 12. Easier to work when its quiet.
Allahu Akbar
>>124683225
As-salamu alaykum, fellow refugee.
>>124685081
Wa-Alaikum-Salaam. How are you, brother?
>>124686471
Pretty fine. Asked the local imam to store my AK somewhere safe while the police was searching my house. He actually did it, the absolute madman!
Praise be upon Allah and his worthy followers.
>>124687241
Takbir!
>>124674815
Cassian and Yoshino are the best boys.
Bring me back to life
>>124667261
Last time I posted about my project, it got reamed because of a fuckawful summary, etc. It was deserved, and I learned from it, but I'm not ready to post about my thing again until I can demonstrate that the summary stuff is better along with everything else.
>>124667171
>>124667812
I was sleeping bae, sorry
>>124691901
Not much you can really tell from a summary, sadly.
>>124692419
Yeah, but it especially doesn't help when your summaries are shit and 2deep4u nonsense.
Hoping to have a demo out by mid 2016, so everything else (summaries etc) will be updated by then.
>>124691901
That's the thing though. It's better you learn from it getting reamed back then instead of being oblivious to any faults and progressing past the point of no return, only for it to get dumped on later when it's far more difficult to fix and your emotional investment in it is much higher.
>>124692527
Impressive timeframe. How large is the project?
>>124676030
the sakura whatever artist needs to learn this badly
so fucking tired of seeing weightless balloon tits
>>124696602
Agreed, huge and heavy tits are the best.
>still no otome with manly men
>>124701473
Make it youself, anon. Seize the day!
>>124692191
I guess we our worlds don't meet, anon. I'm about to sleep.
>>124702045>tfw not even a dev
>>124702045
That would be wish fulfillment desu.
>>124702163
We can make an arrangement and go to bed together.
/evn/ a waifu
/evn/ a laifu
>>124705908
no laifu
Why do EVN groups seem so distant from each other? I thought the idea of bonding together as affiliates and the like would be common in such a small niche, but I could only really find two groups of really close studios/circles. Even the Sekai groups seem to have massive distances in support between them.
With this one, we are now at 10/24 CGs (so a little under a half).
Progress in general is slow because of the holidays, but I'm planning to have the demo out before the end of the month & have the artist work on some additional expressions (two or three for all characters).
I also convinced a help of mine to help the make music decisions, so best case scenario the demo will have custom music already.
>>124713250
What do you mean by distant exactly?
A lot of the old farts are at least friendly with each other.
>>124713250
Such is the nature of the internet. A lot of the starters are doing it because they've read a VN, not because they're friends with devs.
>>124714032
The savior of BL!
>>124717029
Inb4 someone takes it seriously.
>>124713250
For me, there's simply nothing to talk about. My game is progressing at a glacial pace. As do theirs, in fact I haven't heard any updates from them in a while.
>>124713250
>affiliates
The rush to steam has caused a lot of people to give up on bothering to sell direct at all, much less to let other devs affiliate with them.
Put all your eggs in one basket! That never goes wrong!
>>124713250
I don't know about other devs, but the teams I've been in have given precisely zero shits about what other VNs were up to. There's no real benefit to supporting someone else's game apart from potential networking.
>>124644734
holy shit, that's the "plot" of the final moments of the documentary "an honest liar"!
>>124718813
There's a documentary about hot and steamy old man sex?
>deleting dev blogs i follow from my bookmarks after no updates for almost a year
What a shame.
Devs asking for free art under the guise of a "contest" is equal to devs asking you to pay to design their game as a Kickstarter "reward"
>>124722749
What?
>>124723129
He's one of those neurotics who think voluntarily submitting art to something you like for a chance at a prize is getting tricked into working for free.
>>124723340
There's no prize, it's the QS contest
>>124723475
What is QS? What the hell is going on? I feel like I woke up in a different dimension, I'm so goddamn confused. I feel like I don't even know my family anymore. Who is this?
>>124723340
Remember people bitching about the voltage constest?
>>124723475
>So, what do you win?
>We will select our favourite piece of fan art and feature it in the game and credit you - the magnificent artist!! Don't worry about how, we will work that out
Oh okay, that's legitimately lame.
>>124723625
http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=36016&sid=8901bd8cc1ad4ac668e75e0b85887f60
>>124724136
>Please share your piece of art on any social media you please with a link to this KickStarter <3
These guys
>>124723883
I think calling it a contest is pretty weird if it's just a call for guest art, but yeah it's not actually weird to do it. You can't force an artist to draw for you.
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cccn/quantum-suicide-friendship-courtship-hardship-spac
Speaking of which, am I the only one surprised this is struggling? I thought the pitch was rock solid and the demo was a little disjointed but not horribly so. Hustle cat got funded and that game looked terrible and the demo was one of the worst I'd read.
>>124725052
The whole calling it a contest thing is what makes it lame, not that they want guest art.
>>124725052
Hustle Cat got funded because ~diversity~
http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33903&p=395494#p395494
demonicbagel is at it again
>>124725052
It could be that people like it, but they don't think it's worth 30k.
>>124726001
This nigga can't afford two fucking dollars
>>124726481
I'm seriously considering opening a thread about people begging on LSF.
>two my chara designs came together just like I pictured in my head
>one is actually a little better than i pictured via flukes
>third is weird and doesn't even match the others and is taking me three times as long to sketch
What the hell brain QQ
>>124726001
2. Fucking. Dollars.
>>124725052
$20k for a group that has never made anything and you are asking if I am surprised? I'm rather flabbergasted other groups with no experience raised so much.
>>124726001
Guy had a fundraiser for his indepence?
>>124726724
If you don't, I will.
>>124726001
I was going to make a joke about 40 of his 42 posts being begging, but look at his post history:
http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/search.php?author_id=30372&sr=posts
>>124726724
Do it. I'd make a throwaway account and ream him a new anus if I wasn't such a coward.
>>124726930
"too expensive"
>>124727309
Maybe s/he's just a poorfag?
>>124727981
There's no poorfag who can't afford a couple of dollars, unless they are literally homeless. Even people who live in the ghetto have enough to buy McD's.
>>124727981
I don't think anyone who can't afford two dollars should be worrying about making VNs at all, they should be trying to find shelter and food.
>>124727981
Then why do they have a pc and internet?
>>124727981
I live in a third world country and even I have $2
>>124727981
I mean...s/he could do royalty free, trade, or a call for project partners. Their current method is kind of rude towards others.
>>124727098
What do you consider a good amount for an unexperienced group?
>>124728870
It's especially bad because he goes almost exclusively to threads where people are trying to get hired. They have no options but to reply to him and look like dicks/cheap or ignore him and let that begging stain their thread forever.
I contacted a mod about it, this is fucking ridiculous.
>>124729284
>I contacted a mod about it, this is fucking ridiculous.
He's just going to say demonicbagel is contributing to public discussion. Thats the only reason I can see why him, firecat, and jiro horikoshi aren't banned for trolling and derailing.
I find it funny lemma has this huge warning message underneath the reply function about leaving worthwhile comments and it still attracts swill
>>124730143
I hope you're wrong, because if you're not, LSF is only going to get worse.
>>124730657
Even worse.
These wounds won't seem to heal. This pain is just too real.
>>124734161
There's just too much that time cannot erase.
>>124734552
(caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow)
>>124730657
And yet no other forum has survived more than a year.
>>124737392
That's kind of winning first at the Special Olympics, though.
