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>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to December 11 13:59 JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nubunaga copies:http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points
- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade
>Farming guide
- 10 AP until you get all you want from that (basically skull and 5* CE)
- Then 20 AP (until you get skull, 5* CE and all ascensions mats you want)
- Then 30 AP if you don't have medusa ce or/and need bowls for pages
- Or 40 AP if you have medusa ce
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp
>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order
>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST
>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9
>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA
>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk
>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T
>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os
>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
xth for UMU
Senpai come get your login bonus
Kore wa kore wa~
I WANT TO ROMANCE DIARMUID
Keep DDOSing the servers so we can get more apples from these jews.
Xth for all those apologems and apples
>>123576874
Booby-servant
Xth for UNWANTED.
>implying Okita fighting tuberculosis as she follows your every order with love isn't a better waifu than nobu
>9 gems and apples
NOBU!
Game needs to explode more while this event is up, I need all the apples I can get.
Every thread till Shirou is dead
How does EMIYA die in Heavens Feel?
>apologems give me a 3rd Emiya
t-thanks
>>123576603
Reminder that last thread is there if you need to shotpost or continue to shitpost.
Pls do not shitpost in this thread.
>>123576603
Lancelot is the strongest because he's UNRIVALED,
Gil and Hercules eat dirt
>>123577010
Read the VN.
>suddenly apologems and apples
MEMEROLLS
>>123576350
Hijikata is alot more famous than Okita was. Okita was just picked because of tuberculosis nor being hijikata.
>>123576895
OTP
Japs 5* rating.
>9.5 points
Jeanne
Arturia
Kintoki
>9.0 points
Gilgamesh
Waver
Drake
Okita
>8.0 points
Vlad
Altera
Orion
>7.5 points
Tamamo
The tier list has changed quite alot.
No longer does being "Berserker" make you instant 9.5. Nip tier list actually makes sense now. Kinda surprising how Tamamo is being rated the worst of the 5*.
http://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/96261
xth for ascended best Archer
>memerolls give me ancient Shiki and Robin Hood
At least I can burn Robin for sweet prisms since I already have his NP at 5
>>123576843
wrong umu
>>123577236
>Jeanne that high
>>123577214
>reposting the same image
>>123577236
That's pretty shit though.
>>123577236
>Arturia a 9.5
>Okita on the same tier as Drake and Gil
Sauga Saberface.
>>123577236
>Jeanne
>best of anything
>orion
>higher than anything
>>123577390
Now we're talking
>>123577236
>That one faggot who claims Arturia isn't good eternally btfo'd
>>123577236
Surprised Jeanne is so top tier still, considering most players since launch are way overleveled for 90% of the content thrown at us. I haven't used her in like forever because she's a pure defensive tank, and I just don't need one. Arturia provides more than enough tankiness, and actually some solid damage and NP.
>>123577358
What's going on here?
>>123577010
He gave Shiroua hand
>>123577335
>>123577403
Jeanne is the best servant for bosses that cannot be Zerker rushed.Her skill-set is fucking shit tho
>>123577473
Jeanne saved my ass during the Encore Halloween stage.Didn't even need to use command seals
>>123574773
天下 used in a sengoku contest usually refers to "the whole country" in a kind of reverse synecdoche reflecting the way the chinese used to refer to China as the whole world.
>>123577236
>Nip tier list actually makes sense now
>Jeanne top of the top
>Orion better than Tamamo
Sure thing. And lancelot is a 6*
>>123577473
Nips have a strong boner for Jeanne.
It's more universal than the fanbases some servants have, since she doesn't have much competition (she's the only ruler).
>hit 250k hp
>No good reward until 280k and 324k hp
This is starting to be suffering
>>123577390
Why does Gudako have that rape everything vibe around her all the time?
>>123577545
>one of the highest success rates for a stun in the game, can stall two turns in a row with stun and NP
>generic innocent monster variant with no demerit (but no secondary bonus since it's before Liz powercreep)
Eh, it's fine. Her 2nd skill is shit though, yes.
>roll apologems
>gold sparkles
>oh shit
>emiya
>after I did nobu's third ascension
WelpI'll just give away my pirate sluts reroll account later in this thread
>>123577701
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/153089/meaning/m0u/
>>123577390
I would do everything and anything to Okita. God damn it, why can't I roll you
>>123577390
Link?
>>123577952
Anything?
-unzips dick-
>>123577236
>check 4* rankings
>Retard Cat is in 4th place
>out of like almost 20 4* Servants
Okay well gooks aren't terribly bright, so it's just like /fgog/, why are we bothering taking their opinions as better than ours?
Why Unrivaled not 5* again?
>>123578032
>-unzips dick-
Perhaps it's time to use the head up top for once
>Nobunaga's WASHI
Why is she so cute?
>>123577372
OTP
>>123577064
>Can't get past Cosmos without prep time
All this fucking log in reward. I already got okita and now i'm tempted to 10 roll for an np boost. Better not get greedy.
>>123577705
Besides the Saberface bias above Gil and Drake randomly, and the bewildering placement of Orion above ANYTHING, the list is good.
>>123577943
Exactly. You can see the word has many meanings depending on contest.
>一国の政治。一国の支配権。「徳川の―となる」「―を掌握する」
This is the meaning used when talking history, and the one that would make sense for Nobunaga to use.
>>123578113
Because he is a piece of shit
How to make /fgog/ crave a Servant
>give then a top tier seiyuu
>give them OP unique animations
>give them a lewd final art
>>123578113
No survivability, depends on others generating his stars for him, if you don't have a team dedicated to him you need kaleido instead, even if you generate stars you can still get fucked by RNG and do no damage the next turn.
>>123578310
How to make Japan crave a servant
>give them saberface.
>>123578092
Link to 4 star rankings?
>>123578131
That's the bait you retard. Go back to reddit.
The thread is far more tolerable when you put unrivaled, lancelot and jet in a filter
>>123578310
Wakamoto servant when?
I love starting shitposting wars.
I say something, then I go to eat, take a shower or play something else, then when I come back hundreds of posts later people are still arguing about it.
>>123578310
You're telling me people like servants that are higher quality and have more work put into them?
>>123578243
Nobunaga's choice of words is due to the language used in her time as such it's not limited to politics or conquest. Hell, it doesnt even make sense if you think of the context of the scenario.
>世の中。世間。「―に名を知られる」「―に恥をさらす」
Makes a lot more sense.
>>123578431
>Wowzers!I love that image.
You are the smile to my face.
Please, marry me!
>>123576603
▼ Saber Alter 10.0 evaluation article
▼ Hercules 9.5 evaluation article
▼ Lancelot 9.5 evaluation article
▼ Tamamo Cat 9.0 evaluation article
▼ Elisabeth
(Halloween Ver) 8.5 rating article
▼ Chevalier 8.5 evaluation article
▼ Marie 8.5 evaluation article
▼ Anne Bonny and Mary Read 8.0 evaluation article
▼ Atalante 8.0 evaluation article
▼ Nobunaga Oda 8.0 evaluation article
Media [Lily] 7.5 Evaluation article
Malta 7.5 Evaluation article
Red Saber 7.5 Evaluation article
Elisabeth Bartley 7.5 Evaluation article
Emiya 7.5 Evaluation article
Carmilla 7.5 Evaluation article
Siegfried 6.0
Stheno 5.5
I'm suprised emiya is so high to be honest.
Everything else fits
>>123578365
http://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/93558
The links are in the page, 5, 4, and 3* rankings, and CE rankings. Ilya Cosmos one is really high.
>>123578583
>Casliz higher than Nobu
why
>>123578583
>Saber Alter
>10
>Unrivaled
>9.5
>>123578310
Sounds like pretty good criterias to me.
Who's a 1/4th of the way there?
Just hit 260k
At this rate it should not be a problem
Saber Alter needs a good team mate. I've got EMIYA, Herc, Atalanta, and Waver. Which one gents?
>>123578227
I have more quartz now than i had when i rolled Okita.
>>123578583
>Siegfried 6.0
>>123578649
Theres an article explaining it ya know.
Go read it yourself.
>>123578583
>Herc over Lancelot
And now this argument is settled.
>emiya
>high
>fourth worst
>>123578587
>illya cosmos high
It's the pedo bonus
Boy, you and me both Archer.
You have been visited by DENSE PROTAGONIST OF GOOD ABS.
Feeding success and good gains will come to you, but only if you reply "That's hell you're walking into." to this post.
>>123578457
That is fine, it's always a reference to society, politics and the world of men in general. "Everything and anything" is way too broad a meaning for this context in my opinion.
>>123578583
>Elisabeth Bartley
>>123578761
Waver and Emiya would be my advice.
Herk can work too, but I don't like to use berserkers much.
Atalanta wouldn't be bad but she's the one who fits less.
>>123578802
>this argument is settled because one random nip said so!
Getting a bit desperate there, Hercfag. Lancelot can wreck Herc any day of the week, both in and out of the game.
>>123578583
>Tamamo Cat 9.0 evaluation article
What?
She is bottom tier, below Lancer Elizabeth, EMIYA and Carmilla.
>>123578975
This
>>123578975
Sounds like your headcanon.
>>123578802
I expected him even lower with only beating out dragon dick and gorgon grill
Emiya is one of the trashiest 4* infgo (not that it stopped me maxing him)
Finally
>That voice
I knew what she would say but I wasn't ready for that, oh boy
>>123579024
Lancer Liz, Emiya, and Carmilla are shit mate.
>>123578852
It's part of Nobunaga's yakuwarigo, you're focusing too much on her usage of words.
Same reason she uses the word 戦(いくさ)instead of the modern word for it: 戦い
>>123579024
>muh berserkers
Nips don't think much. Remember, they said that herk is the best unit in the entire game, including above all 5* during first months.
>>123579148
Several orders of magnitude superior to retard cat though.
>>123577390
muh
>>123579024
I'm pretty sure those ratings are outdated and from back when you could Zerk through everything
>>123578975
Citation.
>>123577236
I don't understand how Vlad and Altera are on the same tier as Orion.
>>123578975
>jetshitters literally so dumb that they bite the easiest bait
We already know you're illiterate and can't do math, you just keep adding to the pile
>>123579024
>retard cat is bad meme
Shes insanely good with a kaleido and on pure berserker teams.
That and possessing monstrous str + survivability helps her more.
And of course the main reason shes so high is ofmcourse the fact shes a berserker
>>123579184
I mean, just the fact that they rate Caster's original master so high proves they're absolutely retarded and not one thing on that list should be taken seriously.
>>123579139
>>123578757
159,960 with 260-360% here. And I used a bunch of apples already.
Newly rolled Okita with some friendlist spots available.149,552,944
More apologems and still no okita, fuck it here's my reroll sluts account, don't even care if an account seller gets it
>>123579221
>can't come up with an argument
>CITATION XDDDD
Hercfags, everyone.
>>123578975
Go look up One Punch Man, Saitama vs Genos
Saitama is Berserker Herc when he is going easy on Genos, who is Lancelot, and then the second he gets serious and become Archer Herc, Herc just gets behind UNWANTED and gives him a fucking death vision from nearly punching him without a weapon.
>Archer
>Using a bow
>Not just punching shit
>>123579051
Feels good I picked Marie
Only Herc and Cat are higher rated out of the free ones and Deon tied with her
VIVA LA CAKE
>>123577358
フォウくん走る・・・
Fou-kun's running...
諭吉消える・・・
My 100's are disappearing...
石・・・呼符・・・消える・・・
Quartz...Summoning tickets...vanishing
沖田総司こない・・・
I can't roll Okita
おきたこない・・・・・
Okita won't come out
おおっと~!?
What's this!?
なんとこんな所に!沖田総司が!
In a place like this, Okita Shouji has...
い・・・居るでござるよ!ぐだ子殿!!
A-arrived! Gudako-dono!
・・・・ちがう
No, you're not Okita...
うっ
Uugh
ほっほら
L-look!
無明三段突き!
Mumyou Sandanzuki!
無明三段突き・・・!
Mumyou...Sandanzuki!
(おお・・・)
(Whoa...)
すげえ再現度
That's an impressive reenactment
>>123576603
Good job for updating the fuck-up counter.
>>123579340
the irony is that is exactly what lancelotfags do
>>123579223
Two of Vlad's skillset are inferior versions of Orion.
>>123578583
>Atalanta, Sluts and Nobu that low
>Siegfried that high
trash/10
>>123579368
/a/ is the way.
>>123579313
>>123578847
THAT'S HELL YOU'RE WALKING INTO
>>123579340
>can't even see irony in his posts
oh my
>>123579368
>using a meme anime to argue their servant is stronger
This is a new low even for you, hercfags.
>>123579263
I have used her with Vlad plus Herc and Kintoki supports.
She works, but she the weakest unit by far. I changed her with Liz because Liz guaranteed me more damage thanks to her skills.
She is worst than Liz in a berserker team, which is the only niche she is good for, yet she is portrayed as far better in that ranking.
>>123579340
this HAS to be bait, no-one could possibly be this hypocritcal and filled with double standards on purpose right?
>>123579550
Why won't you shitpost about the Demonbane or Goku instead?
hello everyone zouthere here i've recently returned to fate go cause i love hell.
in commemoration i'm doing a 10 roll here we go.
>>123579550
>>123579485
>They think I am a hercfag
I don't even have herc. Or like him.
It's just fun to shitpost about UNWANTED because you get so fucking asspained.
I shitpost about the herkeks too, when the time is right, because they get asspained as well
Does anyone play this game on both mobile and emulator, and does any weird syncing shit happen if you're accidentally logged into both at the same time?
I've been playing this on my shitty phone for a while now and it keeps crashing so I want to shift to emulator, but I'd also probably use the phone occasionally when waiting or somehow bored and not at home. Want to make sure the game won't somehow bug out and start eating my rolls or something.
>>123579139
>Tablet not full or red veins
Why.
>>123579741
That's a really nice dog
>>123579741
Fuck off
>>123579747
Cool nice blog. Now fuck off
>>123579741
results
>>123579845
>tfw not a huge 10ft mastodon so haitch won't notice me
>>123579221
>Citation for a game argument
What the fuck are you even talking about? You ask for citations when talking about lore powerlevel shit.
>>123578847
Sweet jesus you could grate cheese on those.
>Accidentally start 40AP EXP quest
KILL ME.
>>123579970
>jetshitter #1 claimed Lancelot wreck Herc outside the game
>Herfag #1 asked for citation on that
>jetshitter #2 responded by shitposting
>>123579969
Fuck you
>Herkeks trying to stir up shit again
Goddammit.
>>123579970
Citation.
>>123580061
Live with it!
Do it for Nobu!
>>123579969
Scathath > Proto Cu > Cu
Discuss
>>123580061
>Accidently
>Archer EXP
Do it
Nobunaga needs it
>>123580123
>Falseflagging
It literally started with a jetfag post, fuck of cancer
lancelot was a mistake
>>123577064
Fucking jetfags
Just always have to stir up the herc fags
How good is Nobu compared to EMIYA? Besides in cuteness.
>>123580105
saber desu senpai
>>123579467
>>123579543
>>123579710
You can only ask for calcs when talking about ingame stuff because it's not a fucking book or novel to get a citation.
If you people are butthurt that you can't back up your lore powerlevel arguments with citations, then that's your problem.
>>123580157
Scathach is the worst of all of those due to not existing
>>123580418
>French OCDONUTSTEEL inserted into the round table mythology
he sure as fuck was
>>123580157
Not even in game tier is hard to argue against.
>>123580458
As far as I've seen she hits harder but he is still better in Arts teams.
>>123580458
Nobu is crit team orientated.
EMIYA is arts team orientated.
Each are good archers but have completely different uses.
>>123580458
Emiya is trash even on arts teams.
Hes only better than shitfried and stheno.
>>123580129
>>123580208
The cause of my mistake was Nobu herself. The reason I started the wrong quest was because I had just finished leveling Nobu to 60 and the quest menu was already set on the EXP quest. I even have to do it with my farming team.
>>123580513
Sounds like headcanon.
>>123580513
>jetfags proving once again they are illiterate
It's not even funny at this point, just sad
>>123580519
Arthurian mythos went to shit once non-welsh got their hands on it.
>5*
Kintoki > Gil = Drake > Arturia > Jeanne > Waver > Vlad > Altera = Okita > Tamamo > Orion
>4*
Alter > UNRIVALED=Heracles > AB & MR = Nobunaga > Atalanta > Tamamo Cat = Chevalier > Emiya = Martha > Medea Lily > CasterLiz > Elisabeth > Nero > Carmilla > Siegfried > Saber Lily > Stheno
I think we can all agree with this.
>>123579764
One gets kicked out
Also, it's fairly tricky to have it running on both accounts at the same time
>>123579954
>Being this mad
Typical jetfag
>>123580123
So now we know the truth.
Jetfags are filled qith nothing but false falggers who blame everything om others even when its proved to be their fault.
So the best place to farm Fangs is the Okeanus map, right?
who /gsconlinewebshopbonus/ here
>>123580765
I thought Tamamo was better, what's her downside?
Just my luck!
What if even the point of Tamamos' Fox Wedding skill? Sure, you buff Arts damage for the one turn a teammate pulls 3 Arts cards for that ABC, but then they're guaranteed not to pull any the next turn.
>>123580765
>No Marie
So Marie is literally 4.5* now?
Also that chart is complete garbage, just like you
>>123580921
Arts NPs.
>>123580910
I wish I had her
>>123580765
>caster liz that low
>nero that low
>okita that low
Fuck off.
>>123580765
>Gil over Arturia without his NP interlude
no
>>123580910
I wish I still had her
>>123580642
Well damn, good luck there anon.
I was also farming EXP, now I don't know if I should keep leveling Nobu to 80 or just leave it at 71 for levels sake.
>>123580865
No thanks
I prefer my HF Figma Shirou even if it is old as fuck.
>>123580765
Altera is good for AoE, but as I have both I feel that Okita is a rediculously strong unit to have when there is a high hp lugnut coming to brace your ass.
>>123580765
>saber lily ewual to shitfried
Otherwise thr list is fine and pretty accurate
>>123580765
>Drake > Arturia
>Vlad > Attila and Okita
>no Cake at all
>>123581020
>Caster liz and nero
>not shit
>>123579368
So Herc can become Archer class at will?
Can we expect a server fuckup today as well? I need more apologems to fail at rolling okita
Who do I pair Nobunaga with?
>>123580582
>>123580458
Nobu is a top tier 4* while emiya is only good in art teams now
>>123581163
Crit star servants.
Okita is a great pair with Nobu probably by design.
>>123581152
Of course:^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^)
>>123580765
>kintoki
>2nd lowest damage of all golden zerkers
>single target, SINGLE HIT np
>first place
>>123581253
this bait is an eye sore.
>>123581253
Kintoki literally has the highest damage in the game what the fuck are you on about
>>123577824
It still has it's uses though. Whenever opponent charges his NP fast (fuck your Golden Rule spam, Gil) and I don't have enough evades for the entire team I can just use this and let her tank the NP. She would've survived it even without it but every point counts.
>>123581253
Stop talking about berserkers.
Post your waifu
>>123580765
I can pretty almost agree with that.just place Lily>Siegfried and Okita=Vlad
>>123581332
Read what he said again. He's technically not wrong.
>>123581475
His smile is so calming
>>123581332
I think anon means the ME skill level?
>>123581475
>>123581475
>>123579057
Wait, so is it true that Nobunaga gets dicked by Ranmaru and she has children and trying to not pay for alimony to raise them?
>>123581046
It's ok. Fortunately I keep my Vlad for farming with ease.After the EXP quest I got two great successes on Nobu, then I used an apple refill to vent my anger at something and make the client fucking change the default quest.
>>123581475
>>123581620
>Not posting the naked version
>>123581475
Hat!
>>123581475
>>123580908
See
>>123578429
>>123579747
It's just a shitposter, neither hercfag nor jetfag.
People should just stop replying to bait.
wow what a fucking meme this is
>>123581653
>BARETHIGHS
>>123581612
I want to experience her A++ riding skills
>>123581475
>>123576603
Newfag here.
For the event, does it matter if I put Nobunaga and servants with CE for bonus event items equipped as sub-starting members?
>get my rewards
oh man all these gems, i'm gonna give Mashu a squeeze
>memeroll thrice
>boat, horse, clown
forget it
>>123581842
>just a shitposter
That means that he is a jetfag. All of them are shitposters.
>>123581967
nope, as long as they're in your party you'll get the bonuses
>>123581475
>>123581475
Soon.
>>123581742
>Wait, so is it true that Nobunaga gets dicked by Ranmaru and she has children and trying to not pay for alimony to raise them?
What?
>>123581967
It doesn't matter
>>123581904
>>123582052
Nice, thanks anon. I want to reach that 100k
>>123581208
how bout Okita, Drake and Nobu?
>>123582070
What does this expression is trying to convey?
>>123581524
He is. Kintoki has the fifth lowest ATK of the gold Berserkers.
>>123582164
Pretty OP
>>123582172
>小学生メイド!
>>123582012
Spotted the shitposter :^)
>>123577236
Let's correct this list:
>9.5 points
Arturia
Gilgamesh
Waver
>9.0 points
Jeanne
Drake
Okita
Altera
Kintoki
>8.5 points
Vlad
Tamamo
>8 points
n/a
>7.5 points Orion
>>123581748and also got a new gudao CE. Thank you Nobu for this fortunate turn of events.
>>123582243
Fuck off, jetfaggot.
>>123582261
>Gilgamesh over Drake
No, until he gets his NP upgrade he's down at 9.0
>>123582261
>tamamo that high
Lel
>>123581475
>>123581653
Why would you try and waifu Shirou's wife, anon?
Be honest with me here, would people prefer my okita with gudao CE or the medusa ce for the next day or so?
>>123578583
Wasnt this before the stars buff? That only means currently Lancelot is far above, right?
>>123582237
It's a pretty nice uniform.
So instead of Okita I got cake. I have Altera, Kintoki, Emiya and Caster Liz as golds. Should I level her?
That kind of decides if I should pick up those gears and horseshoes or not.
>>123582261
>kintoki that low
>casko being comparable to vlad when she should be much lower (even though it hurts to admit)
>gilgamesh that high
>altera that high
>>123581408
>>123582443
What is this creature?
>>123582448
Medusa definitely.
>>123582483
You could make a decent Arts team with Cake and your 4*s but your call.
>>123582448
Medusa
>>123582530
>he doesn't have maxed Star Emblem for almost constant 30% damage boost.
>>123582261
On what basis are this ratings made?
Why is the lowest rating 7.5 and the highest one 9.5?
It makes no sense for the absolute best not to be 10.
>>123582443
I wish that thing she is wearing was Herc instead of a hamster.
>>123581475
>>123582454
It features nobu so no.
Also all the autistic herc and lance fags are both wrong in that the chart is showing them as equals, not that herc or lance is better than the other.
When?
>>123582604
The cutest thing in the universe.