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>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
- Nobunaga is a 4* event servant like Halloween Liz
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop and extra copies are rewarded from the milestone ladder
- Items available for trade in the shop include:
- plumes, hearts, talons, gears, pages, scales and more
- Milestone ladder awards other items:http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4 (embed)
- Use nobunaga, okita, emiya, Lancer cu, ushi, medusa, benkei and clown to gain more points
- Okita is a limited 5* Saber in the gatcha
- Scenario written by the GUDAGUDA author, aided by Nasu

- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary
- At 100k points your temporary copy BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

- The recommended way to farm is starting from 10 ap, then moving on after you buy the CE

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
November 25 19:00 to December 9 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
CE's
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST


>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (embed) (toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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I LOVE DIARMUID!
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NOBBU
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Xth for Euryale the cutest sister!
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Need a friend with Rider CE I have nothing to offer in exchange
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>>123440978
My daughteru!
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>>123441032
what are the substitutes for drake?
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EVIL WITCH
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What's been more fun: the event, shitposting about the event, the Hunger Games maintenance spree, or watching Jetfag have a total meltdown
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>>123441173
The chaos during the maintenance
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>>123441167
Nobu or lancelot
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>>123441173
Watching cheatfags get banned.
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>>123441173
Rin's anus
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>>123441173
All of those except HG Connecting
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>>123441167
Sluts, Atalanta, Lancelot or Nobu

They're all interchangeable if you already have Gil and Okita
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>>123441173
playing the game
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>tfw never did the dupe glitch
>get to watch all the salt unfold during the crackdown
Feels good
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>cheat apk working fine
I thought they banned this shit.
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>2 Apples left
>DW announces 10 more

THANK YOU BASED CHEATFAGS FOR GETTING ME APPLES BY BEING IDIOTS
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>>123441270
>>123441240
thanks anons
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>>123441290
We got lucky that noone mentioned it on here or we'd all be banned

Every single one of us
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Post Honnouji teams
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Every thread until Astolfo
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I was not ready for this.
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>>123441410
>Cu
You're fine.
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>>123441173
Jetfaggots having a meltdown>The Event>Connecting>Shitposting
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>>123441262
nice meme.
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If Refunders and cheat apk users get banned then see pic.
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>>123441410
>Level 18 dog

Why the fuck did you not level him?
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>>123441410
STANDING HERE
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>>123441367
No problem. There's a lot of options for crit teams now it's kinda crazy
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>>123441445
>Level 18
>Already popped Battle Continuation
>No Protection from Arrows
>Only two Command Seals

He might not be.
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Oh god I spent 400 dollars on this game trying to get okita they better let me refund this shit
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>>123441473

I want Reddit to leave.
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>>123441530
If he's completely desperate he can pop a seal, but there's no reason he shouldn't be able to end it that turn. Even a level 18 Cu could pull out that much damage with a brave chain against an archer.
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>haven't spent any quartz or tickets since the gil event because it burned me hard
>decide a chance at okita or emiya might be worth it
>use 10 tickets
>9 3* servants/CE and 1 4* kirei CE

Not again...
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>>123441562
>he doesn't know
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Post your teams and also you have to have sex with the servant in the second to last spot in your party how fucked are you?
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>>123441624
Swords?
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>>123441562
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>>123441651
Don't fuck with me like this man I have to eat
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How good is Okita? Haven't had the chance to level her up yet so I don't know. Is she good on other teams besides crit teams?
Also, is she going to be gone forever after event. Or will she become available again eventually like Gilgamesh/Kintoki? (At least, I read those 2 will be available again somewhere. Not sure if true)
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It is just hard to get points during the 10AP quest or impossible?
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>>123441697
>he wasted his food money on f/go
>he didn't know
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>>123441670
Swords
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>>123441656
>Nobunaga
Delightfully so.
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>>123441656
>just started a battle

but anyway it's someone's support hector, which means i dodged one hell of a bullet
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>>123441707
They made a pretty big deal about her being limited so maybe she actually won't come back.

She's probably not that great outside of quick teams but she's still a 5* so she has uses.
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>>123441707
Who knows. But considering she is from a Gag manga, it is more likely that she will never come back. Kintoki might never be back either for that matter.
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the breads are on the roll today
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>>123441707
So far she only seems to be good in crit teams
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>>123441396
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>>123441742
Just hard, and you don't get very many. Do it for the mats.

>>123441707
Mostly crit teams. You might be able to just throw her on a Buster team, but Arturia, Alter, and Atilla would be better for that.
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>>123441445
I barely got by but what screwed me up was that I accidentally brought Sabers into the fight because I mixed up the weaknesses.
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>>123441697
Hey, think positive. At least you'll probably have the nicest FGO team in the soup kitchen.
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Is there any way to make an interesting Buster team? And by that I mean not a Berserker rush?
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>>123441770
Swords!
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>>123441773
>>123441775
Post teams, niggas.
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>>123441656
Perfect!
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I will marry this clown.
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>>123441707
>no Okita and Nobunaga porns yet
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Didn't expect Arash to drop a monument. The more you know.
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>>123441707
Outside of a quick team, she seems to shine the most when by herself.
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>>123441707
She's great in a crit team but just okay anywhere else
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>>123441481
Because im stupid.
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>>123441958
>100/98
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>>123441656
I'd cure Okita of that tuberculosis, if you catch my drift.
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>>123441961
What about the little creature that comes with him?
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>>123442053
Take away Zeltrech CE's and fuck off.
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Can anybody explain what the story of FGO is right now? And if the Servants ever had story modes yet? From the pics I'm seeing on pixiv, it seems that Drake had some time with Blackbeard, Okita with Nobu, and Nero with her Roma family.
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How much exp does the 30ap quest reward you?
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>>123442106
I will raise it along with the marshmallow.

We Gudako Maker now.
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>>123441941
>we live in a day where I can want to fuck swords and boats
What a time to be alive.
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Will they fix that "new enemy introduction" animation for 20 AP (and maybe other dailies') 3rd wave?
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>>123441656
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>>123442129
I remeber exp so long ago.
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>Decided to do a single roll
Fucking hell
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>>123441790
>>123441849
>>123441908

How would she work with a team like Her/Atalanta/Lancelot?

She's my only other 5 star outside of Jeanne and I want to lead with her.
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>>123442170
I want a loli Gudako as a daughteru
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>>123441762
>>123441934
That refund guy made it sound so easy and I just convinced myself that I could keep going.

This is just like my magic the gathering phase all over again.
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>>123442273
Her/Atalanta/Lancelot is a good team
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>>123442273
Greatly
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>>123442273
Okita, Atalanta and Lancelot would form a great team.
To get better than that you'd need the Pirate Sluts or Gil + Drake.
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>>123442273
That's a really good team, okita and atalanta are good at generating crit stars which lancelot can use and atalanta can buff all of their NPs
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>>123441270
Which one generates the most stars while dealing good damage?
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>>123441173
>watching Jetfag have a total meltdown
When did this happen?
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>>123441656
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You can only have one saberface in the entire fate franchise. They have to get rid of everyone but one. Who will you choose?
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>>123442414
Nobu might work better than the sluts but yeah
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>>123442470
Alter
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Daily reminder that you're all destroying Nobu's 5th star
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How many gears does Okita need for ascension?
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>>123442470
UMU!
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>>123442470
the first one duh
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>>123442430
Probably either Nobu or Atalanta
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>>123442289
Make sure to keep her away from the gacha, anon.
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>>123442358
>>123442414
>>123442420

Awesome, thanks guys. Last question is what CE's would be appropriate for that team?
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>>123442470
Okita or Alter.
Honestly, any other is kinda meh at best. Lily is pretty decent though, so she might be a candidate too.
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>>123442470
Nero
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I've given up on saving quartz. It only leads to disappointment. I spent close to 400 and only got and Emiya dupe for a gold servant. Not including tickets.
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>>123442430
Nobu deals more damage than Atalanta but Atalanta makes more stars and I don't know about the sluts
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>>123442490
Okita/Atalanta/Sluts is definitely better than Okita/Nobu/Lancelot or Okita/Atalanta/Nobu
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>>123441934
>>123441691
So what's the deal? Google stopped refunding F/GO purchases or DW started to ban refunders?
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Every Astolfo until thread
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>>123442470
UMU
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>>123442689
The former.
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>>123442470
Nero
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>>123442468
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>>123441656
That's a lot of fluff for me.
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>>123442689
I just got three refunds 5 minutes ago?
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>>123442604
Kaleidoscope for Lancelot
Imaginary Around for Atalanta
Don't know about okita
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When?
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>>123442689
Where are you retards coming from?
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>>123442775
Hope you don't have allergies.
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>>123442470
Nero, though what I want the most is just Arturia and the rest of her clones to be gone.
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>>123441173
Watching the Herkek getting over 3k Hercs in order to make up for how shit he is was definitely the best.
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>>123442662
It depends. Nobus absorption and boost lasts 3 firggin turns vs 1 for the sluts and lancelot
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>>123442604
Lancelot - L/OZ or Kaleido
Atalanta - I personally use Irisviel Halloween Max, if you don't have that I don't know what's particularly good. Quick Buff if you have nothing else.
Okita - Moonfest or GUDAO
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>>123442604
Atalanta and Okita can get anything that gives increases stars, crit or quick cards while Lancelot would do well with a kaleido or some buster increase.
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>>123442470
Classic.
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>>123442547
Why?

>>123442470
Does Mashu count as a Saber clone?
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Last roll this event
I have been waiting for you kirei
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>>123442743
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>>123442809
le reddit reporting in
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>>123442840
Lancelot's gravity lasts 3 turns and as a result he's generally the one you want receiving the crit if he's on your team. The reason why Sluts/Atalanta are good with Lancelot is because their skills only last one turn so they can be used to delay a turn without 100% wasting the crit.
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>>123442470
Alter because the only good thing about Okita is the teleport, her stats are fucking shit, while Alter is without dispute the strongest of all Servants.
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>>123442664
Allahu Ackbar attack is the best.
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>>123442874
Gacha sows the seed of evil.
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>>123440978
>>123442743
>>123442916
Who /jeanne/ here?
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>>123442943
That ain't how you write UNRIVALED or Achilles.
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>>123442952
So thats why arash protect her, he found his waifu
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>>123442470
Nero is the best Saberface.

But this is on the basis that Arcueid (remake) and Jeanne D'Arc don't count as Saberfaces.
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>>123442940
Oh yeah your right. Thought it was one for some reason and yeah I guess that's true. We'll really need numbers for nobus skills so hopefully we get them tomorrow
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>>123442943
Go eat a burger, alter.
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>>123443054
UNRIVALED is skill
Achilles is speed
Alter is power
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>>123443008
What if I want to bully her?
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>>123443054
Reminder that Robin Hood can easily kill Lancelot AND Achilles.
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>>123442943
Friendly reminder
Saber Alter < Shirou (past Emiya) < Unrivaled < Kariya < Worms < Altera

>>123443054
Citation.
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>>123443039
Pretty
Fat
Tats
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20 or 30 AP for blue bowls?
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>>123443137
I am sword
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clownfags fuck off
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How good is orion at generating stars?
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I wonder if Alter's stats will be broken as fuck when we can Grand Ascend her past 80.
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>>123443054
Sounds like your headcanon man.
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>>123443182
Lancelot tied with worms though, they both killed eachother. Atilla stays the best.
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>>123443175
Cosmos-blitz-spear up his ass
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>>123443182
>Citation
Did this start because of that jetfag arguing about "headcanon"?
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>>123443183
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>>123443170
She's too pure to be bullied.
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>>123443187
20AP was faster for me but i used all bowl CE's, if you have medusa CE 30AP MIGHT be better for the mix of both bowls/spiders.
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>>123443272
Yes, same as that other post a bit higher.
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>>123443272
>"headcanon"
It was headcanon though. No one could provide anything for how shit worked.
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>>123443083
I feel like Jeanne is more Saberface than Nero.
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>>123443340
That won't stop me.
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>>123443359
What was he saying?
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>>123443256
>Implying Robin Hood would ever even be seen before he struck Achilles' Heel, robbing him of his defensive skills and leaving him to die a slow, painful death by poison
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>>123443295
>*BOBBLE*
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>>123443421
Is this a clever way to try and start shit up again?
Don't lie to me, anon.
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Is nobody else digging this sonic barrage remix playing during the battles? Or the nobus death cries?
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Reminder EMIYA has mystery because he met Saber who has Excalibur which immediately makes Nobunaga reach EX tier in all her skills. Kiritsugu, Rin and Irisviel all have EX tier mystery too.
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>>123443187
20AP
30 AP is more a mix of bowl/whatever the gold item is
40AP is only bowl
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>>123443489
NOBBU!
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>>123443489
yes, but we all talked about it when it got released not the day after.
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>>123443429
He needs 2 arrows, 1 to break Andreios and the second to poison him ,first one would give him away, use logic please
>>123443538
You have it backwards
30 AP is bowl+gold item (spider)
40AP is only spider
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>>123443515
Well it sure isn't hard to find the jetfag shitposter.
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>>123443421
Please don't rile that autist up again.
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>>123443398
Somebody stop this man.
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>>123443489
ノッブ!
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>>123443489
I have always played muted. Didn't realize there was music.
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>>123443469
Fuck off wormslut!
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You know, perhaps it was actually a blessing in disguise that nobody mentioned the dupe exploit in the threads before maintenance happened.

Who knows how many anons would have been banned afterwards.
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>>123443364
She's more of a saberclone than a saberface. Her whole design looks like a pallette swap of Arthuria, but her face actually isn't similar at all thanks to different artist.

...wait, is that why Nero is the weakest saberface?
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I want to marry this snake!
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Could I make a crit team with this+an okita/drake/gil support? (Not pictured is orion)
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>>123443515
EMIYA is fiction so it boosts Nobunaga.
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>>123443660
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>>123443579
Right, it's 1AM and I can't find a rider CE Rep to spend my last 40 AP before going to sleep.
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>>123443579
If both are fired from concealment, then the other arrow hitting isn't even worth discussing. Achilles' own death in life occurred charging down his attackers after having his heel struck, being riddled with arrows. As soon as the heel is struck, all Archer has to do is keep laying into him and he'll be dead well before Rider reaches him.
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>>123443604
The art style reminds me of a certain children's book.
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>>123443753
>What is speed
Read Apoc, when Chiron hits his heel with an arrow he doesnt go all limp, the arrow breaks Andreiod and dissapears
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>>123443661
Okita/Nobunaga/Stheno
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>>123443515
>Jetfag saw multiple people use the smug archer reaction image towards him, so he's latched onto it and tried to take it for himself

That's fucking hilarious
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After how long inactivity is it fair game to delete your friends?

I honestly see no reason why it should be acceptable to be inactive for more than 8 hours during an event. No one sleeps longer than that.
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>>123443661
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http://strawpoll.me/6104552
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>>123443840
Would orion not be better at generating stars?
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>>123443880
>people dedicate every waking hour to f/go
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>>123443585
>Shitposting
Anon... that's how Nobunaga works. EMIYA was also born with the "Sword" element so that counts as mystery too.
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>>123443764
It's a pretty moe artstyle.

>he's reading Moomin to Gudako
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>>123443827
I don't think you read my post anon, the odds of Achilles reaching Robin in time to kill him before he's killed by Robin's arrows, after having his heel pierced, are low enough to be considered inadvisable. This is shown in that attempting this is exactly how he died in his life. His only real odds at survival would be to hightail it out of there, and even then it would be dangerous trying for a rematch in the future because he won't have his invulnerability.
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>>123443880
2 days. Shit happens, emergencies, surprise sex vampires, taco tuesdays.
As long as their servants are up to date I dont think it matters too much
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>>123443880
5 minutes
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>>123443931
The least you can do is log on right after you wake up to make sure your AP doesn't cap.
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>>123443723
If its this rider ce you're talking about i could put it on my lvl 70Euryale if that fine with you?
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>>123443974
>right when you wake up

yeah no

people are not that dedicated to a mobage dude.

You're dangerously obsessed. Stop.
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>Wake up
>meme alt where I hit 999 golden exp is banned
>alt where I wasted 30 quartz on expansion and fous is fine
>main where I was too scared to do it much and only did a few times is banned
What le fugg.
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>>123443996
It doesn't really matter, I'll wait until I get to 50 do a 10ap and pray. Thanks for the offer though.
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>>123443934
Oh shit, and he's tried to adopt the "Anon..." thing too! This is adorable, it's like some kind of stupid animal trying to repeat our words without understanding what they mean
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>>123443959
It'd be more moe to read Uzumaki to loli Gudako before bed.
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>>123443965
>Exactly how he died in life
Is this shitter comparing the actual legends to fucking Nasuverse?
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Looking for some Okita support.

038,823,529
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>>123443651
I know I would have abused it to get all the fous I could ever need
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>>123443880
Unless they're someone I actually know one friend of mine went almost a month without logging in because "he wasn't having fun," fucker pulled a Gil during that event too, I usually delete after three days or so.

Though there's one dude from here whose Hassan was the main reason I got through France. He hasn't been on for like eight days but I can't bring myself to delete him yet.
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>>123443859
Chevalier has mystery because we don't know his gender.
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>>123443974
>nobody ever sleeps longer than 8 hours
>everybody grabs their phone to check their mobile game right before they go to bed and immediately after they wake up
I know your expectations are probably somewhat distorted after spending so long here, but no, bro.
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>>123443515
>Jetfags being this analdevastated
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>>123443295
I'd bobble her tats if you know what I'm sayin
>>123443364
Nero literally looks like Saber. Jeanne has a more distinct face and has a bigger profile than Saber.
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>>123444129
>mystery
>his
Shouldn't have used a gender specific noun there m8 as thats just disproving your own arguement.
Just refer to deon by name or as a hideyoshi
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>>123444115
Same here but mainly looking for F/GO friends to add: 344,046,849
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>>123442664
NOBU!!
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>>123444057
Well deserved
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>>123444147

This reminds me i lose at least 10 AP every time i go to sleep, Level cap increase when?
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>>123444179
>Nero literally looks like Saber. Jeanne has a more distinct face and has a bigger profile than Saber.
I think you mean "more distinct hair". They have the same exact face thanks to Takeuchi sameface syndrome.
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>>123443896
And the teams with UNRIVALED are winning. Not surprised.
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>>123444085
That's too graphic for Gudako, anon. You should give age appropriate material, like Fate/zero.
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>>123444210
Its really fucking not, wouldn't have followed the memers on dengeki if I knew their banning rules made no sense. If it was volume my main would not have been banned since it makes no sense.
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>>123444246
I'd have gone with Hassan, Oki, Atalanta but the choice wasn't there. Enjoy Gil
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>>123443896
Gil, Okita and Drake m8.
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>Open game up
>Keep getting this 11-XXXXXX error
>Reset it
>Works fine

Don't scare me like that.
I'm F2P and innocent as fuck
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The one servant I will never have...
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>>123443340
食べられる・・・
I can eat it
食べられない・・・
I can't eat it
食べられる・・・
I can wat it
おやおやおや!?
Oh my, what's this?
花占いでしたら、こちらで行うほうがロマンチックですよマスタァー!?
If you it's a flower fortune-telling, it would be more romantic if you used this instead, masteeeer
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Did the glitch with Nobu's Brave chain sometimes freezing the game get fixed?
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>>123440978
So its all agreed 30ap is the best unless you have medusa ce?
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>>123444248
>Fate/zero
>not JoJo
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>>123444246
UNRIVALED always wins when the polls aren't rigged. He fucking beat GOLD in polls despite the fact that GOLD is a better unit.
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>>123444229
Really? I sleep for 10 hours and even I don't lose AP
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>>123444317
You cheat, you get banned, simple
Cheating is cheating, even if you do it only once
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>>123444398
And if you have medusa?
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>>123444036
Stop excusing being a fucking casual.
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>>123444339
>tfw I was on the exact same boat until they did the event where they gave Shakespeare for free
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>>123444105
Anon I'm just trying to give Achilles a little more credit here. In the actual legends Achilles died more or less instantly when struck in the heel. In Nasuverse he was given the dignity of a last charge before being btfo.

But really, when you think about it Robin Hood is the perfect sort of heroic spirit to kill Achilles. He's an archer of a somewhat cowardly nature who uses cheap tactics and poisons to strike down stronger enemies without being detected. He lines up almost perfectly with Paris, Achilles' killer, who himself was a rather cowardly archer, and in some tellings of the Iliad even killed Achilles with a poisoned arrow, much like Robin prefers.
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Esfandiyar servant WHEN!?
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>>123443685
Darius met Iskander who was the Son of Zeus so that means he has mystery.
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Imagine if DEEN was in charge of the art style for FGO
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>>123444398
Yep, though even with it you'll likely want bowls for the pages. The only reason you'd want more spider is that they buy everything else
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>>123444426

I like to fall asleep while watching something, so it takes about 1 hour for me to sleep and then 10 hours to wake up.
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>>123443896
>No Gil, Drake, Okito options
Who's the stupid faggot that made this poll?
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>>123444440
If you just do it once there's a chance you didn't do it knowingly. Hell, even a few times there's a chance you didn't do it knowingly, or were just doing it to make sure that what you thought happened just happened.
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>>123444553
DEEN Sakura is the best
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>>123444562
Alright thanks anon, guess its 30 ap grinding time
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>Can't set Oda as Leader
wew senpai
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>>123444594
Some anon who didn't have Drake most likely.
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>>123444535
>Jetfag has literally gone insane
Poor, autistic bastard
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>>123444649
>Can't read
Wew senpai
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>>123444649
Better grind for the real one.
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>>123444621
Nope

Ufotable is great especially since they get her bust right
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>>123444649
>he still hasn't got 100k points
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Can eurayle np kill d'eon in one hit?
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>>123444598
Did you do it only once anon?
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Anyone else get this when trying to update the Liz apk from the pastebin?
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My life might have been passed in ease and luxury, but I preferred you over every enticement that wealth placed in my path.

Please, marry me!
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>>123444649
>still under 100k points
step up senpai
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I have no idea how to play this game. Am I doing it right?
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