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Divinity slayer edition

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>[Incoming Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
- Nobunaga is a 4* event servant like Halloween Liz.
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop and extra copies are rewarded from the non-competitive leaderboard
- Items available for trade in the shop include plumes, hearts, talons, gears, pages, scales and more
- Non-competitive leaderboard ranking awards other items such as other nobunagas, quartz, scales, plumes and CE EXP cards
- Use nobunaga,okita,emiya,Lancer cu,ushi,medusa,benkei and clown to gain more points.
- Okita is a limited 5* Saber in the gatcha
- Scenario written by the GUDAGUDA author, aided by Nasu

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
November 25 19:00 to December 9 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST


>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - New!
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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OZZY
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>post link to new thread
>wrong captcha
>write again
>thread archived
Fuck
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1st for Nobunaga.
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>>123296930
>not posting this thread earlier
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xth for unrivaled under heaven
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xth for Robin Hood a cute!
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SOON
O
O
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Every thread until Astolfo
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10th for 10th strongest Servant
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Xth for Gil sword NTR
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Xth for Best berserker
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xth for best sword
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>>123296930
>>123297190
>Archer that doesn't use bows
>Saber with terrible stats
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>>123297332
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13 hours until best Archer
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Even in the raging thunderstorm, I can clearly see your pleading tears.

Please, marry me!
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You may have the power, but you are too slow to fight me.

I'm glad, Heracles! Fighting something like you just confirms how strong I really am!
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>>123297469
She looks amazing. Gonna dump all my Fou's on her.
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>>123297452
>terrible stats
>12k ATK and 13k HP
>single target nuke NP
>still waiting on skills
she's already better than altera
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>>123297370
>implying
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>>123297486
Let's keep compiling that list of Servants that are canonically superior to Achilles.

So far we've got:
>Herakles
>Gilgamesh
>Arturia
>Emiya
>Cuchulainn
>Nero
>Tamamo
>Lu Bu

Who are we missing?
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>>123297131
I wonder if he will have a Saint of the Sword skill.
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>>123297582
>those shitty stats
>better than Atila

you wish
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>>123297642
Nobunaga.
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>>123297642
Saying that those are stronger literally translates to them being stronger than Karna which means they are also stronger than Gilgamesh, and that would end up in a loophole.
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>>123296930
I want a daughteru
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>>123297469
I agonized over saving my hearts and gears instead of ascending EMIYA, but I feel vindicated now that there's David and Nobunaga.
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>>123297486
>Heracles
>slow
Isn't it brought up a dozen times in Fate that he's ridiculously fast? Everyone thinks "he's huge therefore he must be slow" then he blitzes Saber all over, even though he has no technique at all.
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>>123297486
>Heracles
>Slow
Someone has only watched the Deen anime
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>>123297582
>replying to bait

>>123297689
>atilla fags still mad that shes shit
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>>123297486
Achilles looks like the type of guy who would make eye contact with you while he licks his ice cream.
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>>123297642
Given that Karna is said to be on or almost on Gilgamesh level, both Karna and Arjuna.
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xth for best Archer.
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>>123297642
Liz
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>>123297469
>tfw I'm going to replace Gil for her

I hope she has good skills
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>>123297582
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>>123297767
>Everyone thinks "he's huge therefore he must be slow" then he blitzes Saber all over
Shirou Saber is shit. If your talking about Rin Sakura that is said to wipe him off the earth with a single swing
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>>123297774
Mad or not, Atilla does have higher stats. Her skills will make or break her.
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>>123297772
Even in the DEEN anime Archer reacts with amazement at Berserker's speed.
The UBW movie made him flip all over like a true madman.
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Remember to keep your Mashu well fed.
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>>123297767
Not only that, its also said that he hits so hard that he doesn't even need to hit his enemy to actually make damage, just the sonic boom around does.
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>>123297642
Ozymandias. Arthur. All the Sakura clones.
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>>123297689
>you wish
Altera is outclassed by Arturia with the wave clear NP, and now, depending on Okita's skills (which are guaranteed to be good because saberbux) she isn't even superior to anyone in single target damage, so yeah, Okita is already better
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>>123297975
She likes the hotdog!
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Welp I'm ready, who /NoEXP/ here
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>>123297961
At the very least she won't get a skill that's as bad as that 1k heal.
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>>123297956
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>>123297642
As in their actual legends or in Nasuverse? only Gil and Herk pose an actual threat there
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I know is kind of a meme now, but I would seriously love seeing Nobunaga and Gilgamesh fighting each other in a sword vs gun spam contest while they trashtalk each other.
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>>123297975
marshmallow pig slut
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>>123297956
Wow she's even more shit than I though even zayd could beat her.
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Let's keep compiling that list of Servants that are canonically superior to Karna and Gilgamesh because they are superior to Achilles.

So far we've got:
>Herakles
>Gilgamesh
>Arturia
>Emiya
>Cuchulainn
>Nero
>Tamamo
>Lu Bu

Who are we missing?
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>>123297642
Lancelot
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>>123297790
He's a bisexual slut, anon. He'll do it.
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>>123298070
>which are guaranteed to be good because saberbux
>Nero
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>>123297956
Stats are just fluff in this game, they don't have anything to do with gameplay.
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Estimation on Honnoji points
Basis is 50 points
Okita is +200
Nobunaga is +120
Emiya is +100
3* servants are +60
Benkei is +30

+30% stacks if you have multiple copies
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>tfw Mashu bullying
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>>123297745
Untrue. It's possible that they are only on par with Karna, or beneath him while remaining superior to Achilles, and not necessarily superior.

>>123297897
>>123297845
>>123297708
>>123298050
All right, the current list is looking like:

>Herakles
>Gilgamesh
>Karna
>Arjuna
>Liz
>Arturia/Proto Arthur
>Emiya
>Cuchulainn
>Nero
>Tamamo
>Lu Bu
>Nobunaga
>Ozymandias

Not really sure the Sakura clones count since they're basically Servants on crack and superior to all Servants as a rule
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>>123298173
Rude.
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>>123298182
Nobunaga.
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>>123298230
>4* story gacha unlock vs. 5* limited time
anon
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To do blackbeards interlude I need him at second ascension and rank 3 bond right?
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>>123297956
Why is she 5* with those shit stats?
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>>123298280
I prefer Olga bullying, but this is fine too. I would bully them both with my penis.
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>>123298301
UNRIVALED
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xth for best snek and my waifu.
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>>123297482
>Don't worry
After the storm nothing but trash is left behind, so it should safe somewhere around here
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>>123298182
Esfandiyar
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>>123298391
>Saber Face EX+++
>shit stats
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>>123298301
Can we include Buddha?
Li Shuwen could just tap him on the heel too.
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>>123298301
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Friendly reminder
Saber Alter < Shirou (past Emiya) < Unrivaled < Kariya < Worms < Altera
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Need spreadsheet chan to calculate if it's worth using apples to rush and get Gudao CE's.
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>>123298391
she is cute
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>>123298182
Cu beat Emiya and Emiya beat Gil, so Cu is also superior to Gil.
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Does noone care about okita?
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>>123298301
>It's possible that they are only on par with Karna, or beneath him while remaining superior to Achilles
Impossible as Achilles and Karna are pretty much equals, and Karna is Gilgamesh equal.

>>123298182
>Herakles
>Gilgamesh
>Karna
>Arjuna
>Liz
>Arturia/Proto Arthur
>Emiya
>Cuchulainn
>Nero
>Tamamo
>Lu Bu
>Nobunaga
>Ozymandias

Not really sure the Sakura clones count since they're basically Servants on crack and superior to all Servants as a rule
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>>123298391
Servant parameters =/= star level.

We've been over this.
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>>123298401
Stay away from my daughterus!
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>>123298560
me, gotta collect all dem seibah
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>>123297469
My japanese is shit, but is her noble phantasm San-sen sekai? The 3000 muskets?
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>>123298560
>5* limited event servant

As much as I would like her, why even bother with more than a few tickets?
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>>123298560
I already have the best saber in the game.
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>>123298643
>hand-holding
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but your daughterus are homosexurus
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If anything I am surprised that Nero and Alter are not 5*s since they are saberface too
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>Reached 3rd ascension with Ushi and Medusa.

I want to pat their heads.
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>>123298539
And Gil beat Cu.

>>123298182
>Emiya
>superior to Karna or Gilgamesh
UBW being a counter to GoB does not make him superior to Gil.
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>Koha-ace event
>no Kohaku CE
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>>123297469
I really hope her deck is QAABB.
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>>123298539
>x beat y
>y beat z
>x can beat z
>what is compatibility
That argument is just retarded, not just for fate powerlevels but in general.
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>>123298560
We know she's Five otherwise Takeuchi would whine all day get drunk and buy another ferrari
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>>123297953
>military tactics
>charisma
>some fuck divinity skill
>innocent monster lookalike
She's going to be amazing
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>>123298704
Sandan uchi, the triple firing line muskets
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>>123298560
Too hard to get might as well not even try.
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It's funny because they way it was translated makes Achilles seem to be almost at the same level as Herk.

>He is without a doubt first rate as a Servant. Even among the Servants from Greek legend, he boasts of power that ranks next to Heracles.

So even if it's fun to do this to the Achillesmeme, it doesn't seem that there is that much of a difference between both.
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>>123298704
Sanzen Sekai Sandan'uchi
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>>123298734
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>>123298734
2nd best right now, 3rd best after tomorrow
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>>123298435
Victor, still alive I see.
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>>123298789
According to some retard on this thread, EMIYA can beat Herc, Herc is stronger than Achilles.

Achilles is equal to Karna, and Karna is equal to Gilgamesh, which means EMIYA is superior to Gilgamesh and Karna.
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>>123298874
The Achillesfags need to be put in their place, anon. They've gotten so uppity they're even starting to claim that Achilles is faster than Cu in close combat.
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>>123298874
He was also summoned not that far from greece whereas Heracles had to fight out in buttfuck Japan.
Herc would've been an unstoppable paintrain if summoned in Fate/Apocrypha.
Then again, so would have Artoria and Cuchulainn.
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Best place for farming void dust is that Fuyuki with Benkei and Hassan?
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>>123298560
Why would anyone here care about a shitty Saber-clone? We are not Japs.
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>>123298874
Perseus > both of them

He didn't die like a bitch.
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>>123298791
She's dead, Jim.
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>>123298874
Achilles seems like the jobber of Riders. You have to factor this in too.
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If Atilla had bigger tits I would like her
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>>123298791
This.
They're trying too hard to cut the bonds between fate and tsukihime.
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>>123298743
Little girls holding hands when sleeping is CUTE, not GAY!
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>>123298791
Too strong
>>123299082
Wrong sister and too soon
;_;
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>>123298789
>>123298808
Little details with no relevance.
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>>123299054
Heracles was summoned in Germany and had a superior Master in Illya.
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>>123299141
They are hardly mutually exclusive.
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>>123299030
>which means EMIYA is superior to Gilgamesh and Karna.

But that's correct anon.
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>>123299030
That's retarded circular logic.
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>>123298957
While she might no be the strongest, she is the cutest saber by far,
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>>123299054
Well, it was actually implied that there wouldn't be that much of a difference both with Herc and Achilles because they are pretty much pretty well known everywhere.
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>>123299048
Cu being the fastest in close combat is by itself a misconception. It meant highest rank, A AGI. Nothing more than that, he has no way of being faster than Numeral Gawain who has almost x3 times his AGI.

Achilles is the fastest when it comes to movement speed though.
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>>123298560
People already learned not to use their quartz and save them until the servant they are waiting for comes out.
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>>123299141
Hand holding is gay as fuck.
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>>123299273
They are both equally pathetic who never got to bone Saber.
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>>123299212
Summon location is irrelevant, where the battle takes place is relevant. Fate/Apocrypha confirms this when Dracula loses all his romania steroids by going into the hanging garden.
Illya had to also deal with the extra drain that came from the Berserker class.
But even so he came out of it with A+ stats so yes she is a great master but no doubt he can be better.
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>>123299226
They are completely exclusive, little girls are not sexual with each other.
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When?
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>>123299054
Herc and Achilles are so famous that they get he fame boost everywhere.
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>>123299394
>Summon location is irrelevant, where the battle takes place is relevant.

This is wrong. Kiritsugu's Saber had those high stats despite the poor compatibility with Kiritsugu and that he's not that strong as Master because she was summoned in Germany.

Nasu explained that the place of the summon has a LOT to do with their stats. Look it up.
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>>123299387
But Emiya boned Saber and her dragon.
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>>123299068
Go back to bullying Medusa, persues. She's the only person your weak ass can beat.
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>>123299450
>What is Prisma Ilya
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>>123299301
>>123299468
Is that actually stated? Fate/Complete Material III said Heracles would boast considerable power in western europe, which clearly implies he doesn't elsewhere.
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>>123299394
Herc is pretty well known in Japan too. The only guy that seems to be a really big factor is with Cu because how famous he is in Ireland and how little known he is everywhere else.
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>>123299013
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>>123297131
inb4 they genderbend Musashi
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>>123299385
Nuh uh
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>>123297469

Uh what, calamity jane isn't coming out in 13 hours...
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>>123299468
>Achilles as famous as Herc
Does Achilles have a disney movie? Checkmate Achillesfags, apply yourselves
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>>123299553
EMIYA never did. He got Masterzoned by Saber.
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>>123299461
Final end game bonus boss

Your job to keep Fate alive by beating her.
You need to bring Heroine X to beat her as she is her natural enemy as the savior of Fate
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>>123299461
One can only wish and dream.
She's way better than the two she is made of, too.
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>>123299450
Prisma illya would like to state otherwise.

seriously parts of that show gave me bigger boners than some actual porn.
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>>123299367
>Cu can't be fastest in any category, because he only has A Agility and any Servant with more than one multiplier like Gawain should eclipse him
>Oh, but that doesn't apply to Achilles!

WEW LAD

Did you even fire off a single synapse typing that?
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>>123299614
I think he would get a bit of a powerup. With Achilles in Apocrypha is pretty much said that he is just known everywhere so it doesn't matter that much, and Herc is actually more famous than him.
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>>123299565
>llya
>little girl
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>>123299682

Achilles is Brad Pitt, anon. And I think the whole "Achilles' Heel" makes him quite famous. That and his homosexuality are very well known.
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>>123299646
It was implied in gudaguda that Musashi is a guy still. Same with hijikata the other missing famous nip
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>event incoming
>powerlevel shitposting stronger than ever
As expected of fgog
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>>123299548
[citation needed]

>Q: If the Holy Grail War were set in Europe, would Cuchulainn (Lancer), King Arthur (Saber), and Heracles (Berserker) be roughly equal in power?
>A: ...Well, if we’re talking western Europe in general I’d say the first two would be powered up to an equal degree... though England and Ireland, the odds would be sharply in the respective hero’s favor. Heracles would display excellent power in all of western Europe.

This confirms Artoria would be boosted in europe, and it was written after Fate/Zero.
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>>123299682
Not that anon, but Troy was one of the highest modern grossing films worldwide. Also Brad pitt. And now I have to go rewatch Troy.
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>>123299771
Achilles is the fastest via a NP, not because of his AGI. His reaction speed is still limited to his A AGI.
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>>123299843
Prisma Ilya IS a little girl thought

As in 10 Years Old while Stay Night is an Old Hag faking everything
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>>123299682
That's pretty shit, anon.
Have a (you) nonetheless.
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>>123299710
We really can't know for sure. All we know is that he came from the Fate-route but Saber never fell in love with him. The threesome in the forest likely happened but that's probably all that occurred between them.
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>>123299682
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Achilles
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>>123299906
We've had two threads where it was missing let them have their moment
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>>123299951
Prisma Illya is just a non-canon spin off and Illya is canonically never a little girl.
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>power levels.
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>>123299873
Greeks were bisexuals, not homosexuals. In the Ancient world there was a thing about being the manliest of men by dominating other men, because with women it was too easy.
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>>123299972
One of those Riders better have a level 5 NP or you went full retarded
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>>123297486
>Herk
>Slow
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>>123299925
>citation

It's in Zero/Material.
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>>123299614
Yeah in Apoc
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>>123300117
The fact that she is summoned in Germany and the fact that she has a couple A's she doesn't have under Rin are in Zero. The fact that those two correlate are not in Zero or anywhere.
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>>123299946
And yet Cu is described in F/SN as "the fastest Servant in close combat, and only one or two Heroic Spirits are faster overall" despite only have A AGI.

I think the obvious answer here is that Nasu can't do math
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How many more hours till maintenance?
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>>123300097
He might have fucked women, but he only loved Patroclus. It wasn't domination. It's because Greek only acknowledged love between men and never between a man and a woman.
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>>123300038
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>>123299682
Funny how I would have known much more about Achilles than Hercules if it wasn't for murrrica. Reading some of the Iliad in school is pretty much a given in my country.
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>>123300250
7hs until maintenance, 12hs until the event starts.
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>>123300249
Lancer class only.
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Apply yourselves, anons. The argument has long been over.
>>123298493
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>>123299925
I think that what is implied there is that Cu would reach Arthur level and Heracles would get an even further powerup.

Now, I was thinking, what would happen if you summon Karna or Arjuna in India? In Apocrypha is implied that Karna doesn't really have that much of a fame boost going on, he is just that strong.
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>>123300249
>Cu is described in F/SN
>in F/SN
>F/SN
whelp
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>>123300227
I mean that Nasu goes to explain Saber's high stats in Zero in the book Zero/Material. It's because she was summoned in Europe.
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>>123300038
Hunchback of Notre Dame was a really good movie.
It's a shame the sequel sucked dick.
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>>123299972
I still have no Shakespeare after 4 months.
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>>123300289
I thought Homer's works were mandatory in every country when you're in highschool? Same goes for Shakespeare, and that one russian guy who's name I keep forgetting. Fuck is happening with the world
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>>123300335
I guess that should be enough time to get the other tickets I need. Thanks anon
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>>123300371
Similar to summoning Caesar in Italy
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>>123300249
Nadu just about retcon'd everything he's written in SN in regards to powerlevels just by expanding the servant pool. He really needs to work on his restraint calling everyone "the strongest or fastest"
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>>123300580
I don't think he's ever contradicted what he said about Cu though, unlike nearly all his other powerwank in SN. It probably helps that unlike the others which are called the absolute best at X or Y, Cu was described as the second or third best, who could be called the best in a specialized skill.
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>>123300371
They both become even more retardedly strong. Probably get chariots and more weapons
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>Achilles and Herakles fags

Step aside, greates Greek hero coming through, did any of you faggots had a spaceship? didn't think so.
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>>123298301
Achilles isn't even best Rider.
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>>123300749
Homer as a Caster when?
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>power levels
It's time?
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>>123300707
What was said about Cu by EMIYA only applied to Lancer Class Servants.
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>>123300749
Odysseus was confirmed inferior to Heracles in the very story that he's named from.
He even meets Heracles(' human soul, the narrative goes out of its way to point out his divine soul is up on Olympus) in the underworld and is in total awe of the man.
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>>123300749
How's that bag of winds treating you? Oh right.
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>Friendly reminder that Lancelot can beat Elder God Demonbane by KoHing him.
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>>123300720
So this would happen? Oh god.
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>>123300946
Only if Demonbane allows it. Demonbane could erase KoH and Lancelot from existance if it wanted.
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>>123301013
more like the master would die instantly from the strain of manifesting something so huge
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All you kids need to calm down and just watch this.
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>>123301083
I was expecting Doctor Gil and all I got was a boner. Take responsibility, anon.
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>>123300946
>Lancelot touching the manifestation of the concept of justice
it moves too fast to touch, suffice to say.
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>>123300815
>B rank riding
>best
KeK
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>>123301013
The mahabharata is pretty much the Bible in India isn't it? Or at least close to it
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>>123300457
It got too many details off from the book and sanitized it to the point of it being almost a different story.

Well, it it's a disney movie.
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>>123300946
>can't even get his hands inside his king's pants
>thinks he can get his hands everywhere
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Shouldn't Nobunaga the 6th Demon King be more famous than Okita who's a mere sickly shinsengumi member? Why is she lower than Okita?
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Class would Jesus be?
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>>123301270
In terms of "importance as a story" yes. It is not quite the religious doctrine of hinduism, that would be the Vedas.
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>>123301461
Saver
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Mashu feet
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>>123301235

What would Demonbane think of Shirou?
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>>123301270
The Bhagavad Gita is.
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>>123301357
And yet it's still one of the darkest Disney movies out there. The villain wants to hatefuck the heroine, for fuck's sake.
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Let's name all the servants that Nobunaga can objectively beat:

>Gilgamesh
>Iskander
>Saber
>Medusa
>Heracles
>Kojiro
>Medea
>Achilles
>Astolfo
>Karna
>Tamamo

Anyone else?
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>>123301453
>Saber-face
saber-face
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>>123301453
Saberface sells
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>>123301260
>B-Ranked
B stands for best.
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>>123301453
The ingame explanation is that Nobunaga was so strong they had to nerf her. The real reason is because Okita is a saberface.
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>>123301461
Joker.
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>>123301083
OK, there's not even a way to justify this as a mana transfer. That is literally just lolis having sex.
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>>123301582
Lancelot
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>>123301582
Anyone with Riding, all the major religious servants aside from the ones who are at least on Gil/Karna level
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>>123301083
Reminder this was banned as CP in Russia.
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>>123301519
Perseverance in the face of impossibility no matter what failures or suffering that entails is the very thing that lead Demonbane to where it is. All the thumbs up and a pat on the head.
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>>123301527
Read some of it for university. It would be cool if Arjuna had something based on the three yoga as a NP.
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>>123301582
She can't beat Gil and Karna you newfag.
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>>123301697
>he needs to justify lolis having sex
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>>123301080
Yes, and it would be hilarious.
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>>123301582
Can she beat Gilles?
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>>123301527
Which is a chapter of the mahabharata.
That's like saying "The old testament is important? No, the book of Genesis is"
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>>123301785
Meaning that Martha in particular is totally fucked.

Shame, really.
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>>123301582
Can she get pasts Cosmos? I dont think so so remove Achilles from the list
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>>123301357
That's why I said movie rather than adaptation.
In any case, it would have been neat if it was actually a retelling rather than the story written with children in mind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0wBP1w5DkY&feature=youtu.be
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>>123301878
Saber Gilles has Riding and Caster Gilles definitely has at least some mystery
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>>123301582
It was directly said in Koha Ace that Karna and Gil would be really hard to her even so because how strong they are.
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>>123301734
>mentioning UNRIVALED
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
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>>123301582
Anyone with high Divinity or Mystery.

Saber does not have divinity/mystery, so she would win against Nobunaga. Medusa is also E- Divinity, so she would not have that much power against her.

And so on.
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>>123302016
Nobunaga literally fucking Martha when?
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>>123302090
Medusa and Saber are given as examples of servants who are explicitly at a disadvantage against Nobunaga. Medusa in particular is given as an example of someone who is so fucked against her that Nobunaga's NP would display "A crazy effect" against her due to high amounts of mystery + a high level of riding skill.
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>>123301734
And so it begins
>>123302090
Saber Arturia? has a fuckton of mystery (Garden of Avalon)
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>>123302090
Actually, it was said that Saber and Rider are people with mystery that would have a hard time against Nobunaga. They were brought as direct examples.
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>>123302090
Artoria is a dragon with the ultimate holy sword, she has buckets of mystery weighing her down.
She also held the spear that anchored the age of magic or whatever.
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>>123301582
Avenger
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>>123301582
>>123301734

Actually lancelot can kill her with a bombing run from his F-15J.
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>>123302090
Except Saber is full of mystery, Excalibur and herself might not even be real hench mystery.
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>>123302090
Arturia and Medusa both have a moderate amount of Mystery despite their relative lack of Divinity, and both of them are fucked by their Riding skills.
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>>123302090
>Saber does not have mystery
>Both her Noble Phantasms Demon King of the Sixth Heaven and Three Thousand Worlds, and her skill Tenka Fubu Innovation allow for her to be granted modifiers leaning in her favor the higher the Divinity or Mystery of the opponent. Those with "Mystery" are those that had illusory abilities in life and those who may have not existed at all. King Arthur, known for her interactions with the Lady of the Lake and Excalibur...

>Medusa is also E- Divinity
She has riding though. Nobunaga's NP gets a boost against people with the riding skill and she has a A+ in that.
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>>123302258
>>123302262
And she has riding B
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>>123301734
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT UNRIVALED?
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>>123301640
>B stands for best.
No, B stands for i Banged you king
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>>123301734
Lancelot doesn't have enough mystery for Nobunaga to gain that much of a boost, she would get her ass kicked.
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>>123302090
>Examples with both high levels of mystery AND riding skill
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>>123302090
>literally being this newfag

LOL I WANT SAKURA SABER BUT I NEVER READ ABOUT HER

LOL I LOVE NOBU NOBU BUT I DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT HER XD
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>>123302332
>>123302442

>lancelot defence force is already out in full force

my sides
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>tfw no UNRIVALED Saber
>has Arondight the counterpart and equal to Excalibur
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