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>the only cards i have for abyssian are for a creep deck
>need to level abyssian to get shadow nova
>trying to play this shit at rank 5
This is some kind of existential hell
is sword of the Akrane a qtpi?
So after not having played in several days since starting due to silly reasons like depression I'm finally cracking down and constructing a deck, disenchanting cards and such. I have a Black Locust and a Paddo that I want to dust for some Magmar essentials like Elucidators (which I need two of currently), are either of those cards worth holding onto at all or can I just go ham?
>>123143730
Want to talk about it?
>>123143765
No, I want to tear people apart with my wolverine claws and lizard penis.
>>123143730
I wouldn't dust cards unless you're VERY committed to a particular faction.
>>123143730
Nah, you don't need to dust it that badly. Just play dailies and grind those orbs.
>>123143730
Elucidator is only essential if youre going wombo combo OTK with fractal
>>123143730
both of those legos are considered pretty mediocre. i'm not the most knowledgeable player, but i think you can safely scrap those two
also, refer to http://forums.duelyst.com/t/legendaries-epics-disenchanting-guide-by-ryan-peppr/21322 if you'd like. it also suggests dusting those two.
i have paddo myself, and i had to take him out because he was doing more harm than good. that ability is hella rng
i still kept him because i keep all my shit because i'm a gigantic autist, but you should be safe to kill them
just don't kill yourself. you're worth more than 350 to me!
>>123144809
I would really aim to get your makantors, theyre a better holy immolation and people bitch endlessly about holy immo
>>123144809
I was just going for an aggro shell for now. I kind of want to do a bit of quick climbing anyway just to see how far I can go. I settled on Magmar because they are the most mechanically similar to things like Jund, Junk, Shaman, and other midrangey playstyles.
>>123145280
Meant for >>123144995
is this game better than hearthstone? i dont wanna play hearthstone.
>>123145280
>>123145490
I mean, it kinda feels like wasting magmars potential to go midrange over control but its not like you have elders/metamorphasis
>>123145815
Its like hearthstone meets poxnora if you know what that is, if you dont then fire emblem is close enough.
>>123145815
It's a cross between Fire Emblem and Hearthstone, with not so much a focus on RNG like HS does.
>aymara healer's face when
>>123145891
True, but I can work my way towards that in time. I literally just now unlocked Mana Burn though, I'm undefeated so far, I like nuking enemy generals with double Wolverine claws.
>Jax Truesight
>Dude jacks it up with Greater Fortitude
Thank you Crossbones.
>>123146542
>Vanar has a raw bounce
I thought you assholes said Magmar has all the removal.
>>123146695
That is vanars only removal card
magmar has nat selection, egg morpg, metamorphasis and plasma storm
>>123146695
Vanar's removal is arguably better
Vanar control vs Magmar control is actually a good matchup for Vanar
Why dont people play their silithar elders away from the fight? They always play them on the frontline so the general and his minions can kill the egg and him.
If they dont have exact removal for his egg, him, and the egg he drops on the turn hes played you have an unstoppable engine of death
>>123146792
Can you show me how a Vanar control deck looks like?
>>123146915
Because the elder is a huge body?
>>123146960
So what if its a huge body, it requires an insane amount of on hand removal if you dont it where things hit it.
Off the top of my head it dark transformation and breath of the unborn, sunbloom and martyr and meta/plasma storm and all of those are insane combo's that requires both luck and their entire turn. With the exception of lyonar but that heals you for 8 so you know
>>123147242
sometimes you just need to put something between you and the enemy. Ideally, you should be putting it away from the front lines in order to maximize the chance of a reproduction. But sometimes it can buy you a turn to draw another removal spell or force your opponent to trade a creature or something to remove it.
Your favorite faction is shit
>>123148467
If you say so, chief.
>>123148527
Fuck off Lex your warsuit looks stupid
how fast can you concede to get credit for leveling
>playing against vet
>have to split up for blast
>splitting up means taking a full SF
>if there are portal guardians they're easy 5/9s
>if they have TW it's 15+ damage
Solid cancer
>>123148705
"Strategy" is the word you're looking for
>>123148705
>have to split up for blast
>if there are portal guardians they're easy 5/9s
you're not very good at this game, are you
maybe you should just play burn songhai, sounds like your speed
>>123148705
Im gonna give you a protip here
Fuck blast. Not every vetruvian runs it and the ones that do requires you to have another artifact in addition because 2 damage aint shit.
The same goes for the 2-1 blast. If you cant clear it in 1-2 turns then you just wait for him to inevitably buff it so when you do draw silence/removal youll actually be getting value
I have never lost a game to blast but ive lost plenty to stars fury
>vetruvian keeps using stars fury to clear minions
>he suddenly has no win condition
Portal guardians need a fucking nerf though. A "remove this card or lose the game" as a 3 drop is obscene
>beating a vetkek in diamond with the abyssian starter deck
L M A O
>>123149064
if you just flat out nerfed them right now, i think you'd end up making them useless
they're already super weak to dispel, leaving them a 0 attack punching bag, and even then they tend to start out weak unless you can pump out a lot of minions in a short period of time, making them pretty useless unless you already have decent control of things
i do think they could use some kind of change, i just don't know what would work
>>123149401
I've always asked myself why the hell it has 9 hp, it feels so arbitrarily high.
Even if it gets dispelled it's a 9 health body that helps you to disrupt the enemy formation and is healthy enough to last till late game so it gets third wish'd
Why is Holy Immolation allowed?
>>123149401
>super weak to dispel
>in the faction with third wish and free +1/+1
Not even. They need to be 6 health so you can actually kill them with your early game minions and they actually need to be be babysat a bit before they murder your face.
Vetruvian has no weaknesses and dominate every tournament despite every deck being built to counter them.
>>123149592
fair enough, i didn't really consider the hp as being an issue. you could definitely drop a few points there and they'd still be viable i think
>>123149826
why is vetruvian allowed
>>123150303
Because they don't have Holy Immolation
s-should i make a vetruvian deck? I have stars fury and ayylmao healer...
Why does Maw have a cute female voice
>>123150846
do you have a cute female voice :3
You know what Vetruvian needs? A Celerity Artifact. Everyone already has at least two thematic artifacts and they're completely better than Vet's. Vet needs more love.
>>123150719
if you want to
a single stars fury and aymara healer doesn't make a deck, but it's a start
vetruvian isn't very good out of the box and requires some synergy to get itself going, so don't expect ez wins if it's a budget deck
>>123151150
that doesn't even make sense, shitpost-kun
>>123151150
>celerity
>blast
>hexblade
......yeah naw
>>123151323
Maybe flying then? He has that spell that gives flying and health.
>>123151470
oh shit you were serious?
i mean they already have hexblade for a gimmicky artifact. also that spell is pretty bad so nobody really uses it
besides, i think something that either spawns or buffs dervishes would be a little more thematic. dervish decks in general need something more going for them. maybe an artifact that gives them +1 movement square, or makes obelysks immune to spells, i don't know
>>123151429
>>123151713
Maybe a Rush Artifact then that acts like Vindicators ability.
>>123151850
Sounds more Magmar or songhai than vetruvian
Are there no more win streaks in S rank?
>>123155979
I meant, to get from diamond to S
>>123155979
There are none
You actually need a winrate over 50% to progress now
Are there any good Abyssian decks that can get to rank 5 that isn't mech?
Just started today, got a Coldbiter.
Seems kinda iffy, should I dust it?
I changed it a bit and I think that I have only one or two things to look at and that's it. Any suggestions for improvement?I'm going to bed and will check back sometime tomorrow
>>123158854
Make the tits sag a bit.
>>123158681
safe dust, its not even bad enough to warrant a change like spelljammer
>>123148705
My least favorite faction to play against. Vet fanboys call it strategy but it's about as strategic as avoiding a guy with a knife by hiding behind the guy with a gun.
>>123158681
It's not terrible but it's not good either
That slot could go to something else
>>123158681
It's mid tier vanar card. If you have something you're looking to craft it's a safe dust.
>>123159727
Otherway around m8
>>123159886
I was just trying to say you avoid one thing by walking right into something worse, but yeah it does make sense with the whole blast thing. Point is you can't reliably play around Vet if they run both Starfury combo and blast.
>>123159939
why? why can't you?
people keep saying this, but just where the fuck is the blast coming from?
it either has to be a 1 hp pyromancer which is easily dealt with, a scarab which is worth removal/dispel, neither of which can attack on the turn they're dropped in anyway, or from their general, which, unless they couple it with another artifact, is only doing 2 damage
the only way you're going to get hit for huge blast damage out of nowhere is if they've got an ankh + staff + silhouette tracer all in their hand at once, and it's late enough in the game they can play all that for the 9 mana
there's absolutely no reason you need to be spreading your units out to avoid blast at all times
complain about fucking scion's third wish, sure, please do, that shit's retarded. but fucking BLAST? jesus christ
>>123160713
A lot of people do have the scarab (he's not bad) or Aymara, or the artifact combo, also advancing in line is total dogshit.
Also
>You need tracer for teh combo !11
No, you don't.
>>123143372
Ya know, I'd actually buy this if it weren't a fucking microtransaction game. So it could forego the whole 'grind these shitty objectives to get credits' thing and go on an achievement reward thing.
>>123160909
>teh combo !11
fuck off
the idea is to keep close enough to vet that he can't safely pull out the ankh. keep your general above or below him and have your minions fan out to either side so he can't just walk around them
vet doesn't have any high threat close range minions outside of aymara, and that's pretty expensive at a 6 drop and just asking to be dispelled
>>123160971
But it would take less time to do everything, and people would stop playing quickly.
>>123160971
>>123161516
there'd also be a lot less people playing
people are much less inclined to buy a game that might be okay, than try a free game and possibly spend money on it later
>dropping several ranks in one day
>>123146761
and mana burn lol
>>123163965
thats not removal, thats silence
>>123164126
>implying it doesn't remove 2 hp minions
>>123165186
if that counts as removal then vanar has 3 hp removal
>>123165186
Your fucking general removes 2hp minions you ninny
wat
If a Songhai has multiple Masks of Shadows, how does the Backstab stack?
>>123169081
meme
How meme would a dedicated golem deck be
And what would be the memest faction to pull it off
>>123170651
Fagmar probably
Just use Kujatas to cast golems at a discount price of being fucked in the ass
No idea why you'd want golems though all the Fagmar minions are way better
>>123169319
The backstab effect does stack
>>123170651
It was a thing back in the Alpha.
Metallurgists, Vanquishers, Kujata, Flash Reincarnation, golems.
However, currently, if you follow the train of thought, you just end up with a worse Magmar control.
>Oh, all of my dudes are huge, I can throw in Plasma Storm
>I might as well run all of this removal
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Hey, I did it.
>>123176025
What deck u runnin' m8?
How do you get windowed mode on the desktop client, and how do you delete songhai from the fucking game?
>>123176415
Either creep or this shitty wraithling focused deck. Too poor spirit-wise to make the deck I'd like to have.
>>123176595
Ctrl+shift+F
>>123176595
CTRL+SHIFT+F
and
ALT+F4
respectively.
>about to win
>ONE MOMENT...
>lose
smegmar conspiracy
Do you say GLHF before every match?
>>123178296
>drop game ending threat on an empty board
>he gets rid of it
>drop another game ending threat
>he does it again
>drop ANOTHER game ending threat
>gets rid of it
>have nothing now
>he drops big dudes and i have zero removal, no ropes, and no shrouds
>lose the game
alternatively
>set up combo that wins the game next turn after a "close match" (whittling him down and trying to remove his fuckhuge dudes+FREE LEGENDARY EGG SPAWNS)
>turns himself into a 10/10 and hits me for game
:^)
>>123178953
No, it's a retarded ASS way of saying Hi.
I use Hello like a civilized person.
>>123178953
Yes, unless my opponent is a Songhai.
>opponent says Well Played before he kills me
>>123181432
>opponent surrounds me and says well played
>I win on the next turn and spam laugh emote
I sure love Metamorphosis into Plasma Storm
Really balanced
>>123181432
>opponent can kill you but instead he uses all the cards and spells, and buffs just to show you
Fucking retards
>>123181920
>9 mana
>not even game ending
vetkek detected
>>123181920
it costs 9 mana though
>>123182045
Guilty
:3
>shadow nova once
>repulsor and lure give you infinite cheap removal for the rest of the game
is this honestly supposed to be balanced
cause its fucking stupid
>>123182672
Just kill him faster :^)
>play against songay
>loose before i hit 6 mana
above rank 5 is even worse
this fraction really need some nerfs
>>123181432
I'm new to this game and I have a question regarding the topic
sometimes I have a really fun game that's pretty evenly matched and I'd like to convey that it was a good game
what emote or phrase should I use to convey this? "Well Played" looks like it has a pretty dickish use
>>123184460
Don't use any
>>123184460
Whenever my opponent uses any sort of emote i mute him immediately.
When he says Hello, i also reply with Hello because out of all the choices that's the most civil one.
Or just >>123184573
fuck songhai
>>123185023
No offense, but you sound like a faggot.
>>123185208
>using emotes
No offense, but you're a faggot.
>>123184460
just say well played, don't do this >>123182045 and tip 5 gold if you're really feeling it
unless they're cynical as fuck, then i don't see why they'd take it poorly
now, if you say well played before they even end their turn, and use the laugh/kiss emote, that'd be pretty dick
>>123184460
usually i opt for well played and a tip if the game was really solid
>>123185819
>>123185907
They should make tipping bigger
>>123186632
That'll be 15 gold plus tip
>>123182087
>9 mana to destroy every enemy your opponent might have, without risking to trigger Dying Wishes
Looks like a fair trade
>>123185740
I don't even use emotes, but instantly muting someone because they do is pretty stupid and childish.
>>123182045
Man, I hate that. Whenever I can win I do it shortly, maybe a "Well Played" before if the match has been good, but no messing around.
>>123187175
If they want to friend me and talk that's cool. Emotes have no defined meaning
>>123187346
Yes they do, are you stupid?
>>123187154
That is a fair trade. Especially considering 9 mana from vetruvian will just outright kill your opponent. 9 mana from songhai is a full combo that will probably kill you from an empty board.
>>123187680
At least Vet sorta rely on positioning, and not even their own, so you can sorta play around it.
Songay is bullshit though, but it's a faction that rely on card draws rather than strategy.
>it's an Abyssian deck that relies on casting Shadow Nova two-turns in a row
>>123190946
>not 3
>egg morph
>metamorphosis
>mana burn
>plasma storm
>flash makantor
>bounded lifeforce
>Elder
Magmar needs to be nerfed into complete uselessness.
>>123192567
there's literally zero (0) things wrong with magmar
everyone that complains about magmar must be silver
>>123192809
>there's literally zero (0) things wrong with magmar
>>123192809
Instead of constructively refuting any of those points you simply shitpost. Nice job.
>>123192809
The thing wrong with Magmar is that they do everything too right. The class has no adverse matchups and does 90% of the game better than other classes.
>>123193116
magmar loses to songhai quite easily actually
>>123193116
What about that one anon further up who said Vanar control is a favorable matchup against Magmar control?
>>123192916
you guys act like magmar is wiping the board and dropping threats at the same time. magmar removal is highly costed and there's always a conscious choice over whether you have to drop one of your own threats or attempt to remove one of theirs. Until magmar gets to 9 mana there is no way they are both dropping threats and removing all of yours at the same time
tell you what: most of /dyg/ started playing the game last month when open beta was released. They haven't played enough like the rest of the official forums
This is like a fighting game general
>>123194603
The fuck are you talking about, nigger? Magmar exactly does the same thing you say it can't: removing your minions AND shitting out threats at the same turn. All Magmar minions are sticky as shit .
They don't need to balance their decks around spell/minion ratio because each one is 2for1 by default and they have enough spells to take on 2 players at the same time. They simply outlast their opponent's early game and then shit out too many threats for them to handle.
>>123194603
after getting your board wiped 6 turns in a row and having to deal with bullshit rush + frenzy 1 for 4 combo and THEN flash reincarnation, it's pretty fucking easy for a Magmar to get to 9 mana without effort and still have shit on the board
> Opponent thinks he is clever and keeps all minion in 4-long conga line + hero
> Gets blasted by ankh + staff
Is there a better feeling?
>>123196101
>vetkeks thinking they're good using the most OP faction
when will they learn
>>123196101
Post deck.
Also, can anyone teach me the proper ways of using the ankh? Whenever I get it early on I shoot myself in the foot by losing board control and the game along with it.
>>123196248
Vet can get optimal conditions something like 16~18 damage on turn 5-6 unless you have positioned yourself truly retardedly.
Every faction that isn't Vanar has SOME sort of 12~15 damage dealer on that turn. ANd strictly speaking vanar does too but I never see anyone actually using it
>>123196248
i don't get it
how can they be vet but also be using magmar at the same time
>>123194603
Let's take a look at the math then.
Here's a list of all the Magmar cards that are used to remove threats, either through dispels, metamorphosis, destruction, or just straight removal.
Let's start with spells :
> Natural Selection (2 mana)
> Egg Morph (4 mana)
>Plasma Storm (4 mana)
>Metamorphosis (6 mana)
Magmar also have few minions which primary purpose is killing others minions instantly
>Spirit Harvester (5 mana)
>Makantor Warbeast (6 mana)
Metamorphosis is not that much used, but when it is Magmar general prefer to kill the minions with their own forces and summons a 4 drop with the remainign mana. For the same cost, Makantor Warbeast is a 4/4 with Rush and Frenzy, unless you're into some extremely gimmickly playstyle you're bound to suffer from it. Same with Spirit Harvester, although it does do damages to every other minion, including Magmar's.
However, notice that all three others Magmar removals spells cost 4 mana. Flash reincarnation is also a thing, as are Kujatas. Which mean that Magmar can very possibly kill most minions you have on your side (or alternatively, dispel or turn into an egg a valuable asset) and put something valuable on the grid in the same turn it's played. Alll of theses for a pretty cheap cost. Compare to Vet, which only have one dispel and one conditional removal, and yet are the faction all Fagmar players cry is more broken than them. However, I have never seen a single Fagmar claiming their faction isn't bullshit actually backing their fact up.
>>123196308
>>123196930
Nobody runs natural selection or kujata. Egg morph requires you to be in range to attack the creature causing the threat
Metamorphosis and flash reincarnation spirit harvester is 3 cards and still 8 mana. Or you can spend two full turns to do it on your own. Flash reincarnating a makantor will cause it to die if it attacks something. It's like you guys are really silver. Vetruvian is #1 in every tournament even with decks specifically designed to beat vetkek
>>123197250
>Nobody runs natural selection or kujata.
???
>>123197304
Maybe in silver
You won't see them in control in diamond+
>>123197568
Yes you will you retard
>>123197704
Im in diamond and no you won't. There's no point, those spots can be used for better cards
>>123197794
I'm in Diamond too. I still haven't seen a Magmar who wouldn't destroy my pyromancer with natural selection turn 1.
>>123197919
Not him but it's not just pyromancers. That card destroys anything if it's the only one on the board.
>>123197794
>>123197919
Well i'm S rank and you're both wrong
>>123197794
>Im in diamond
he says like that's anything special
>>123197794
I'm in diamond and while I don't see Kujata that often (still sometimes, but usually they don't get much value), Natural Selection is always there.
Rest of your point is bullshit though
>4 mana AoE that may not even die because Dampening Wave or Greater Fortitude are a thing
>>123198545
>greater fortitude
>dampening wave
>in control
?
>>123197250
>Egg morph requires you to be in range to attack the creature causing the threat
Which is always the case. You don't Egg Morph a distant threatening minion, you Mana Burn it.
>Metamorphosis and flash reincarnation spirit harvester is 3 cards and still 8 man
This is an incredibly specific example, can't you answer generals points instead of nitpicking ?
>Vetruvian is #1 in every tournament even with decks specifically designed to beat vetkek
You keep saying that every thread. You never respond to any point everyone makes against Magmar, you just spam "Well Vet are better anyway". Just look at your post. You took two specific example that still result in clear board advantage for Magmar without any prior board control, and might not even results in a tempo loss on his end. And yet you're spinning that as "not important". Are you really that deluded ?
>>123182045
I do this when I have to get Ultimate Aggressor quest
Sorry senpai
Official /dyg/ chart of faction OPness
>Elder God Tier
Vetruvian (P2W version)
>God tier
Magmar (control)
>Le Balanced Tier
Abyssian (big dudes, midrange)
Lyonar (heal, midrange)
Songhai
>Underrated Tier
Vanar (aggro, midrange)
>>123200781
>tfw Vetruvian
>got all the 6-8 or so legendaries in my deck without paying shit
>mfw people whine about Vet being p2w
>>123200781
Songay OTK should be in God tier
>>123205291
It's not as consistent as vets and magmar. You have to try hard to fuck up something as magmar, if a songhai player doesn't get good hands he might as well kill himself.
Repeat after me
"a 4 mana 4/5 with rebirth is completely fair and balanced"
hurr durr i good at game
Who is the most overused minion and why is it Emerald Rejuvenator?
Free +4 HP is crazy retarded
>>123206679
It's not. That's a neutral rare and literally doesn't do the meta any harm.
Trying this out for shits and giggles.
Does anyone have a referral code?
>>123206679
it's more the fact its a 4/4 for 4 with +4 hp. If it was a 3/3+4 for 4 or a 4/4+4 for 5 it would be a little more balanced
>>123206826
redditpals
>>123206826
use the referral code redditpals for free 100g
>>123206826
redditpals
seriously, it gets you 100g which is the equivalent of a booster
Okay /dyg/
How do we fix Vanar?
>>123207549
suck a dick
>>123207549
by nerfing plasma storm and giving them some cards to work with. Right now you can only play swarm vanar with the deers because there's nothing else that you can do with them.
>>123209530
Spirit harvester absolutely shits on vanar
>>123207549
Nerf tempest and other boardclears
>>123193835
>spiral technique
>earth sphere
lmao
>>123211482
Seriously, ive never seen a songhai use spiral technique and ive gotten to s-rank 2 months in a row
>>123207549
Coldbiter does 3 damage
More tree minions that inflict stun
More "Dying Wish Summon a X/X Minion with [Dying Wish Summon a X/X Minion with {Dying Wish Summon a X/X Minion here} here] here"
>>123211618
Cause it's shit. I don't see the point, I can do more damage with a combo
>BUT IT'S 8 DAMAGE FROM HAND
It's also 7 mana, by that point the game is already settled and 8 damage won't change a thing.
Sup guys. New player, should I stick with Lyonar?
Also, I am spooked about my first match, am I guaranteed to suck my first few times around?
>>123212625
>should i continue playing [faction]?
>im scared to play my first game
>>123212625
buddy, you're gonna be garbage for a while, get used to it
fortunately, most people your rank will also be garbage, so don't worry
>>123212625
Lyonar is one of the better beginner factions for sure, but that's not to say it shouldn't be stuck with once you've grasped the fundamentals.
Just make sure you're disenchanting other faction's cards so you can build yourself a deck that will frustrate the fuck out of your opponents.
You're bound to get your ass handed to you for your first few games, but bronze should be considered more of a learning experience than an actual league.
Make sure you check out some competitive decks so you know what to aim for and enchant, but most importantly do your research and make sure you'll actually enjoy playing the faction you've picked.
>>123212790
>Mocking rookies
Fuck off.
>>123176739
what is the deck you'd like to have ?
>>123213671
I didnt mock him for being new i mocked him for being a fucking idiot in matters outside of the game
He cannot continue playing a faction if hes never played the faction you mong.
>>123213912
>What is sandbox
>>123214456
What IS sandbox?
>>123213872
A variation of http://forums.duelyst.com/t/big-bois-deck/20200
I'd also like an Abyssian Rush deck, both require Revenants and I have neither which is my biggest problem.
>>123212625
First few games are actually pretty easy. Start off with training missions to get the hang of the game, then dive in. I managed to win my first, i think 4 games? I used Abyssian, they're pretty fun. Lyonar players sometimes give me trouble, but I personally find them kinda boring.
PvP is entirely ranked, so your first games will also be against newbies.
Post yourshadow creepdecks lads
>>123217348
Sure thing anon
>>123217348
hehe i liek meemz xd
>beginning of game
>drop Abyssal Crawler on a mana node
>opponent runs up and slaps it
>realizes his mistake a few seconds later
>concedes
>diamond
Everybody has a mechazor deck.
Woha... So pro...
>>123218798
>shadowcreep on an empty mana tile
Why does that matter
>>123219059
Free wins as magmar, hop on the train
>>123219059
So bring a crossbones you mongoloid. How hard is this
This is fucking bullshit.
I literally didn't get a better card than a rare shitter 6 times in a row now.
Piece of shit.
>>123221627
>being this mad
>when I have 6500 gold and 6600 spirit
>>123221742
Share some, familia.
I can't be a pro p2winvian with drops like these.
>>123221870
but the autowin high spirit deck is magmar anon. or abyssian
>>123222009
I need more Ayylmaos and Third Wishes though
Come on
*pats the shoulder*
>>123222009
Not its vetruvian, pretty handily
>>123222170
>>123222218
before artifact and Locke nerfs, but now vetruvian is pretty slow, and you can defense yourself somehow. the magmar, and abyssian are better.
>>123222506
Im fucking plying
Hell if anything the sarlac nerf hurt more than either of those
Theres a reason vetruvian dominates every tournament. And that reason is portal guardian
>>123222841
which tournament? last one I saw the final was the abyssian with 423424 legendaries vs a Lyonar heal or something like that. and at rank 5 to 0 I see A LOT of magmar full control + elders
>>123223449
Thats because its cheaper moneywise than vetruvian while being nearly as good. The statistic is also taken across multiple tournaments
Vetruvian rank 1-3 50% of the time
Lyonar magmar rank 1-3 22% of the time
Abyssian is like 15-18%?
Vanar songhai is 10%~
>>123223929
good to know then, I was rank 0 a few months back, not playing that much now. but Im at rank 4 or so now, and magmar control, and some abyssian is the thing I see more.
also, the vetruvian deck you are talking about , I think its the same as back then, dunno why is so popular now. I guess current nerfs/meta bring it back
Well just got to S with my vet deck last match was against a Lyonar S rank with over 300 lyonar wins. He just conceded at start. Glad I didn't spend any money on this game and still got S.
>>123224667
Why would you have to spend money to get to S?
>>123224925
You don't at all but some people think you have to in order to play p2winvian.
>Vanar bringing themselves down with their AoE
delicious every time
so this whole time I've been going "why the fuck is everyone saying magmar is overpowered" since I've been running a magmar deck for this months ladder and the minute I hit 10 the wins hit around 50/50 against literally any other faction. Fair matchups all around
if this is you
no matter what deck you have
if you are stalled in the low Gold bracket
stop playing at weird hours. Only queue for games between 5pm and 9pm EST. It is a fucking. shitshow.
Nobody cares about their positioning. People throw shit out onto the board with literally no care to where it lands, and regularly end their turn without moving their generals. Your summons will go unanswered/ignored. It's fucking easy as shit.
On the other hand, if you are stuck in silver playing during this time: your deck is shit. Immediately look for a way to change it. Play during odd hours to go against real decks, get an idea for what they're running.
>abyssian throws down shadow dancer
>tempest the board with all his little bullshit
>divine bond elyx AFTER taking tempest damage for exact lethal
She fucking deserved that after having an amazing fucking opening to my nothing. So many turns spent not drawing sunriser or tempest to clear the weenies
>>123226430
Tempest damage is 3, Dancer health is 4.
Either you also attacked the dancer or something here is fishy.
>>123226968
I didnt attack the dancer, i let the dancer get insane value because it didnt matter
>>123226430
>divine bond
Reeeeeeeeee
>>123226113
The degree of this being correct is astounding. I always play late at night, was struggling to get from 5 to 3. Got 3 to 1 in one sitting from people that just have no fucking clue what they're doing.
>>123226113
>>123227270
gotta agree
>>123227146
>people who silence the ironcliffe
YOURE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM
>>123226113
>>123227270
>>123228210
Holy shit i thought i was the only one, what is it with the late night crowd and shitters
Can the Lyonars spamming divine bond all night please leave?
>>123226113
This was my experience too. Stuck at 5-4 because only play during morning hours and weird inbetweens. Start playing during 5 and 9 went from 5 to 0 in two days.
>>123228530
Only autists and addicts play at late night hours
Normies play at normal hours so it's easier.
>>123228530
5-9PM is late night?
>>123229239
Some other anon mentioend it being easier at night
I just assumed it was a timezone thing but there is a definite period of the day where its crazy easy
>>123229374
The first two anons you quoted said its easier to play at prime time, not late at night.
>>123229374
this nigga dont even know what he agreein with
>>123207549
Give them a cheap Vespyr with Rush
Buff Blazing Spines to 4/3
Rework Avalanche so it's not useless
Let Razorback work on walls
>>123230496
The whole point of Avalanche is to punish people trying to avoid your infiltrate. I think it would be much better just make a whole new card that was a small wipe. Maybe deal 2 damage to all minions and stun them all or some shit.
>>123232317
And that's a shitty point, because if you can't contain them you've already lost.
It would be on par with the other board wipes if it hit your opponent's side instead.
>>123232714
Yeah it goes against what the faction tries to do, but in reality if you could do whatever you wanted to do all the time with all factions then you'd just win every game or lose every game. The fact that there is some counterplay and some effort gone into looking at solutions to when stuff goes wrong is better than the alternative.
>>123233214
Okay but every other faction has a board wipe in that neighborhood that doesn't only function in their faction's worst case scenario.
Exception for Songhai.
>>123232714
>infiltrate opponents side of the board
>winning
>got my minions over there
>they start to drop a shit load of stuff
>inverse avalanche
>wut
ALTERNATE SITUATION
>could not contain them
>losing
>they're on my side
>inverse avalanche
>wut
your idea is worse in most practical situations.
>>123233409
Abyssian doesnt make much sense either really though.
Deal 2 and full heal your guys? Like what, the 1/1s? Who gives a shit? Sure you could heal some fat guys back up but it seems like a Lyonar card more than Abyssian
>>123233549
Breath of the Unborn should be read: Deal 2 damage to all enemy minions. Summon a Vorpal Reaver for each killed.
it would make more sense then
>oh boy magmar control, how fun
>and i draw 0 lategame, amazing
>have to matryr his spirit harvester too
>he even manaburned z'ir, how the fuck do i come back from this
>mfw doing the math with holy immo/divine
21 health wombo combo, i feel like songhai
>>123233549
>>123233841
Tempest and Breath of the Unborn seem like they should just swap card text.Though holy fuck the Light Chaser Synergy.
I didn't know the Mini-jax could move.
>>123235553
I chuckled.
feels good man
thank you leveling vetruvian to 11 booster
>>123236380
Nice lego and 200 dust
>>123236430
fuck that regalia i'm not playing lyonar
>>123236535
Okay tough guy at least you're only DEing their best card
>>123236535
>>123236430
>>123236719
>not dusting card you have 4 copies of
A'll ya'll going to regret this.
>>123236719
good
F U C K lyonar
>>123236719
>regalia
>best card
Ehhhh
Best artifact, sure.
Ive actually cut the regalia from my deck because theres just too much abyssian floating around for whatever reason. Does no good against them
>>123236916
I think artifacts are innately weak since curse is such a prevalent card for Vet
>>123237593
No its really weak because they dont last more than 2 turns, vetruvian isnt popular enough to influence the game that way.
Its why arclyte still sees usage because it preserves its own life by mitigating damage, the enemy general can no longer slap you to eat at your artifacts health. He needs a board and his general can suddenly no longer respond to you
>>123238850
>vetruvian isn't popular enough
>literally #1 tournament deck next to magmar
>>123239137
Yes and? Its barely played on ladder because it requires a huge amount of dust/money
Why are there so many people just conceding before the game even begins the past few days? I'm even at Gold.
>>123239192
i didn't really think about it until you mentioned it, but that's kind of odd
i've hardly played against any vetruvians in all the time i've been playing, and it only seems to have decreased the higher in rank i went
i think i've played more vanar than vet, even, with the other four factions being vastly more common
>>123239484
I do it when I have a bad draw or match against some 3+ ribbons dude playing his main(aka stacked deck).
>>123240216
>mana burn mechazor across the map
>opponent concedes
And that's how I got into diamond
