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>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items. Patch notes never.
Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.
>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.cum/
FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.ck/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki
>What's that cum that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: 6028 LLMK (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if cum: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)
2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)
3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.
4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You CANNOT use a seed.
Sucks to be you if you didn't unlock him after the azazel nerf.
How's that steak, buddy?
>>122199859
I refuse to believe Azazel is meant to be that weak.
AYYYYYY
Premature answer: Lost with Holy Mantle will be a Greed Mode donation unlock.
the steak meme needs to stopthere's way funnier ways to complain
>>122200039
This is already confirmed.
The Achievement tied to it is the same style as the "Cain starts with Paper Clip" one.It's going to be 999 coins
have you fuckers seen this?
>https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3snfk4/weve_done_it_boys_solved_for_real/
allegedly we're having to send people out to mcmuffin's home-fucking-town to solve this stupid puzzle
this is horseshit, right? he can't still be THAT mad about the lost
>>122200137
>we
go back to reddit, fuccboi.
>>122200137
no, it's horseshit
edmund didn't send anyone to the arcadehe sent people elsewhere
https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/665199458011865090
>>122200137
Someone will literally have to suck his dick in order for the entire game to be released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0fHKWA_SJ4
This steak is getting really hard to chew. I think I might just end up spitting it out pretty soon.
>>122200284
I'm being a normie and you can't stop me. Get fucked, aspie.
>>122200371
sorry bro, i would upvote you but i can't seem to find the arrow.
Can we just like
remove the Cellar from the game
Please
>>122200137
Someone should go there and purposefully get hurt following his clues.
Like fall off a Ferris wheel or something.
Then sue him. Or at least send a very sad tweet.
First for
Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen
Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen
Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen
Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen
Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen
Edmund "My name is McMillen, your fun I'll be killin" McMillen
Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen
Edmund "You choked down the steak, now your game I will break" McMillen
>>122199991
I'm Vegan.
>>122200923
>>122200021
Has anyone directly confronted Ed about this yet?
It seems that subreddit is content with sucking his dick and ignoring that he's clearly released an unfinished game
>>122199991Its alright.Im a patient man, and I really enjoy all the salt its come with.
I fucking hate Eve
Last time Edmund posted on the subredditIT WASN'T A TIMEGATE GUYS, IT WAS TOTALLY A BUG, he added that he wasn't gonna read/reply to any comments. If you want to confront him, good luck actually getting hold of him.
How many characters do I have to alternate with in Greed Mode to noticeably reduce my jam chance? I've just been switching between Judas and Cain, but the that seems like at most 1-2% drop.
>>122200487
>upvote
Go back to REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDIT!
>>122201351
>hating purest girl
baka senpai desu
>>122201351
Sounds like you need to gitguppy's paw
>>122201382
I suck dicks, meant to reply to >>122201129
>>122201405
Are you a punchin bag mate? All characters start at 0% and the chance goes up independently for each coin donated.
>>122201668
Are you sure? I distinctly remember finishing a Cain run with the machine starting at 4%.
Shit game desu senpai.
>>122201405
Just use Glowing Hourglass plus Chaos Card before it's patched.
>>122201879
The % chance is persistent, and was only invisible before the most recent patch. The amount of coins you had donated was always tracked.
>>122202045
Doesn't change your hitbox m80.
>>122201351
IMPROVE
YOURSELF
>>122128092
I've actually figured out what Golden Horseshoe does but nobody cares enough to test it.
Alright lads, get your asses to Santa Cruz if you want some of that steak.
>>122202583
>imgur link
phew, for a moment I thought you were autistic enough to go to Santa Cruz for a shitty ARG.
>>122202583
Aw shit!
>this shit
Is there no God
>>122202261
It's just a chance to use your hold item without consuming its charge, right?
I think I remember that happening on one of my runs
>how to jump+car battery
>isaac now jumps in place and stand still for 2 seconds
thanks edmund!
>>122202886
>the monstro sprite makes it look like you can sneak behind him but you never can without taking damage
>>122202951
Car Battery + Short Cutter.
Makes both portals in the same place.
gg no re edmund.
>>122202928
It gives you a greater chance to succeed playing the slots I think.
I made an account forhttps://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3s5fd7/i_think_i_know_what_the_golden_horshoe_does/
Is the game patched already or is it still broken, with greed being ultra buffed and azazel being utter shit ?
Also, is there any mods that remove the stupid fucking scaling on hush and greed ?
Even if I fucking love steak, chewing on the same bit for 30 minutes is all but enjoyable.
>>122203130
Oh ok. Well then I have no idea what item was giving me free charges then.
>>122202045
*tips fedora*
Just tease my shit up
>>122202769
Of course not. I'm waiting for reddit to datamine the Matrix for the physical clues. I can only imagine how long the next timegate'll be in retaliation.
>the lost starts with the holy mantle, but the d4 becomes single use and is rerolled with all other items
>all items that are useless for the lost are rerolled when they appear for him
>the lost no longer takes immediate touch damage - enemies must be touching him for a second to begin dealing damage, and fire and curse rooms do not affect him
Pick one.
fuck the speed challenge
>>122203629
Option 1
>>122203629
>all items that are useless for the lost are rerolled when they appear for him
>all these useless pill effects
>PHD died for this shit
>>122203673
You need to be broke as fuck.
So rev up that R button
>>122203934
Ed is going to make the minions that the Hush spawns heal him if you don't kill them
>>122203934
It's not fun when you're using a filter.
>>122203934
>>122204125
The only reason you killed Hush so fast was because he wanted to get away from the filter.
>>122204115
>implying the filter is bad
fuck off edmund
>>122204259
it wouldn't be so bad if some things didn't look so weird with the filter on.
Other than that, it's okI sometimes use the filter.
>>122203629
The Lost starts with the Holy Mantle already.
>>122204259
The filter looks everything like a muddy, ugly, undefined mess.
>reddit losing their shit about Edmunds ARG
>not realizing he's just fucking with them
come on, plebbit
>>122204637
no, you look like a muddy, ugly, undefined mess
So, Black Candle no longer works on Curse of the Maze, unless the damn thing is bugged.
Edmund McMillen @edmundmcmillen 1m1 minute ago
Shit is going down yo!
>>122203629
None. The Lost is supposed to be ultra hard mode. I don't get peoples problem with that.
>>122203673
>makes it all the way to the heart
>dies
shit anon i feel fucking bad for you. Typically my speed runs would die 3-4 floors in, I only made to the womb twice and the second time I beat the challenge. I would punch my monitor if I died to the heart.
>>122204727
"NO U"
real matureFaggot :^)
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3sopup/boi_arg/
call the number to order your steak
>>122204625
Unless anyone has confirmed that beyond the achievement being there, I don't think so.
>>122204770
Because not only has "Run a steamroller over my head"mund's poor design left unavoidable damage in the game, it also shuts off a good part of the game's features and enjoyment behind RNG.
The Lost is exactly the opposite of the kind of character that should be in a roguelike.
>>122204841
Holy shit, I love this sort of stuff! Real life ARG stuff is cool.
JUST
>>122204976
You could see that even before the achievements, if you random on a game and catch a fast glimpse on the lost as the character select passes by you can see that it says he starts with Holy Mantle. Same with Eve.
>>122205050
just a reminder to slow the fuck down
>>122205076
Except that was believed to be a holdover from the testing done to improve the Lost's playability.
The other option was his current one - spectral tears and the D4.
>>122205050
Stop going in there with 99 coins, nigga.
The machine breaks.
You know the machine breaks.
It's like continually going to a restaurant where they have a chance to shit in your food and ordering the buffet every time.
>>122204976
>unavoidable damage
Still, he has the mantle now.
Also, what features of the game does he shut off? Do you mean his super powerful unlocks? It makes sense that those are locked behind a tough challenge.Quit trying to eat your steak in one bite.
>Double steam sale and 99 coins
>Store is super greed
No seriously fuck everything.
>>122205342
>Depths 1
>Shop Items until then have been pretty shit and I haven't found anything worth using my money on
>Shop is Greed
>"Well, maybe the next shop will-"
>Shop on Depths 2 is Super Greed
>Donation Machine from an Arcade also jams after two coins
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0LWJgd84DH0
>>122205286
>Stop going in there with 99 coins, nigga.
seriously this, I tend to only go to ultra greed with 30ish coins because thats about the average I get in. Although yesterday I pumped over 50 in without it breaking but whatever.
>>122205495
>eggman stalling for time on this update with ARGshit
REEEEEEEEE
>>122205978
Calling edmund eggman is an insult to eggman
How powerful is bum hero?
>>122205459
It's good to hear the game mechanics are working to their fullest ability to ensure your steak's juiciness.
>>122206194
One of the better familiars once you get him max level
>tfw you get to beat Mega Satan and Hush on the same run
TYBG!
13PQ Y1K3 as Maggy.
>>122206276
The steak isn't juicy.
It's fucking RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
>>122206346
>trying to beat hush as judas
>chaos card on the 2nd floor
huehuehuehue
Is glowing hour hourglass still in the greed mode item pool ?
can't seem to get it by rerolling the first shop.
>>122206475
yes its in the greed mode item pool
So what's in the new update? Should I bother downloading it, or should I wait if I downloaded the first afterbirth patch already.
>>122206545
Then I'm just unlucky then, I'm trying to get it over with with the 999 coins, it's probably going to be patched out in the next update.
Can we stop with the steak jokes?
Its making me hungry.
I'm really getting sick of the health scaling on hush and ultra greed. I can see not being able to 1-shot the bosses but they're so fucking overtuned right now. Having to shoot non-stop at the boss for 3-4 minutes is so fucking boring.
also if you have e-coli you can turn the greeds coins into poops.
Update happening.
>New patch is out
>Greed Mode crashes for everyone
BELLISIMO, EDMUND
MAMA MIA WHAT A STEAK
>>122206696
Just wait a month until it's actually done
>>122206696
I can't play greed mode with the new patch, it crashes instantly.
RUH ROH
WHAT IS IT?
>>122206951
That's probably the Mega Satan head.
>>122206813
BRAVO EDMUND, I CAN'T EVEN EAT THIS BURNT POTATO THAT YOU SERVED WITH THIS WELL-DONE STEAK SLATHERED WITH KETCHUP.
>Isaac NG has stopped working
Friendly reminder that the only reason the patch came out so late was because they were bugtesting up until now.
>buying Afterbirth
HAHAHAHA
What's in the patch?
>>122207251
>too poor to enjoy this 7 dollar steak
>>122207274
Disappointment
PATCH, DOWNLOAD IT NOW
A
T
C
H
>>122207342
>this burnt steak is worth 7 dollars
Retro vision used to instantly crash the game for me, now greed mode is doing it. Is it mandatory to have at least one thing always crashing the game?
thanks edmund, you are showing yourself as a true bugtester
good goyim, buy the excuses and the shit, never breed!
>>122207419
>for some people
>not everyone
>>122206951
it's the key item I think
>IRL ARG that only a small % of the playerbase can realistically take part in
Who the fuck told you this was a good idea, Edmund? I'm not going to drive to Santa Cruz for your shitty stale steak.
>All this ARG shit is just to distract the plebbit community so they don't realize that Edmund rushed the game out the door months before it was actually ready.
Fucking hell. Also, thanks CAPTCHA.
>>122206951
One new item! In exchange for an entire gamemode being unplayable. Truly, this is the King of Steaks.
>>122204729
Did you take a ??? pill?
Now we just have to wait another 109 hours for greed mode to be playable.
WHAT'S IN THE UPDATE
WHAT'S IN THE UPDAAATE
>>122207760
Even reddit isn't slowing this pill easy.
The first comment is usually "Oh Edmund I love your cock, please let me suck it".
But the second and is always "Yo, what the fuck is this shit".
And /r/themoddingofisaac is pretty pissed
>>122205290
No you jackass, half the items in the game are useless as The Lost
And they aren't removed, so they can clutter up your item pools while all the necessary upgrades never show up
>>122207906
Dissapointment.
>>122207916
go back there you cumguzzler
>>122207992
Ed only talks to reddit.
You have to go there to see what the fuck is going on
>>122208069
ignore him, he's just triggered by the r-word
>>122206790
I knew it wasn't just me
>>122207906
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
HOLY SHIT I JUST PICEKD UP MEGA BRIMSTONE
>>122208229
Post a pic then
>>122208229
How about you screenshot it then you lying faggot?
>Greed mode now instantly crashes
Good going you fat fuck.
>>122208229
>Controlled tears
>Dark bum
>Jump
I'm not sure what to think of this combo on level 3.
It has potential, but it's so unlike how I usually play
>notifications when you reach a transformation
Ok that's pretty neat.
>>122207757
Didn't Edmund pay attention to how Valve did shit in TF2? Or how the Surgeon Sim developers did theirs?
This isn't discovering how to find a secret, this is "find clues until I decide when to release it :^)"
>>122208639
Is that in the new patch?
I just fucking wish we had patch notes
>>122208229
b-but
my 107$ steak
>>122208893
Those eyes looked like the TRIGGERD eyes
>>122208820
Yeah, when I got the ass knife, a notification saying YES, MOM? popped up.
>>122209082
Thank god.
I didn't even know there was a drug transformation until I read about it
>>122209072
Nah, nowhere close.
>>122203673
did it senpai
we in it now boys
>>122209072
They're Edmund's.
>>122209376
>still easier than pre-patch ultra greed ;^)
guys i just made guppy and it played a sound and said guppy!
>>122209376
how is your game not crashing
>>122209376
how did you get the game to not crash
>game updates
>greed mode becomes unplayable
Edmund you fuccboi, test your fucking game.
is the angel room exploit still in the new patch?
I need it to be in before I update.
>>122209498
>>122209569
I had a run open from before the patch, then continued it. I was able to continue it after patching
Launching a new run is the thing that's crashing everyones games
>>122205495
>>122209587
He's not the developer, anon. Neither is he the tester.
Nicalis is the immensely incompetent shitty developer behind this game.
>>122209629
i had a run open before the patch too, but when continuing when i change of floor it crashes
>>122209612
What was the exploit?
>>122209861
Just exit the run and continue again.
and there will be a new statue
ezpz mega satan key
also excess key pieces can be rerolled into angel room items.
>>122207789
Can't remember - does that cancel out Black Candle?
This steak is undercooked
>>122209612
yes it still works
in other new, i cant go to hush without crashing
>>122210035
Only if you took the pill before taking the candle.
If you take a ??? pill after getting the candle, you still get the most annoying curse in the game.
NEW PATCH
>>122210048
>undercooked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCujO6Ujw_o
>try to go an beat Hush
>crash
I'm pretty sure this is Fatmund´s doing.
I don't want to, but I'm starting to dislike this game(or at least this DLC).
LITERALLY CANT GO TO THE HUSH FLOOR WITHOUT CRASHING
ITS LIKE HE JUST ROLLED BACK TO THE LAUNCH VERSION
>>122210268
if you weren't eating my steak so fast i wouldn't have to make you chew more slowly :)
>>122210139
In a recent greed run something like two or three pills had that effect, what the fuck.
>>122210298
First crash was going through the blue womb door, now it crashes in the floor transition screen.
Do they even test this shit?
>game crashes when entering the blue womb
thank you eggmund
>Greed Mode crashing for a lot of people
>Hush crashing AGAIN
Edmund should have just announced a delay instead of shitting out this half-baked nonsense.
Is MissingHUD borked for anyone else
Everything just reads 0
>>122210472
for me its at the end of the transition screen
i tried exiting/continuing etc and nothing worked
>>122210393
It's a stupid joke. It's an amnesia pill, not only do you forget the map, you also forget the pill's effect so it keeps showing up as an unknown pill no matter how many you gulp down.
>two dollars on a single run
GREAT THAT MY FUCKING DONATION MACHINE ALREADY GOT STUCK AFTER ca. 25 COINS
Every new patch, including the launch of Afterbirth, has completely broken something.
Good job, Nicalis, you gaggle of fuckups.
>>122210540
Edmund should just announce when he's going to stop sucking dicks.
>kamikaze now NEVER hurts you
>>122210716
Blue Bomber is a challenge, bra
>>122210101
>>122210529
Cool, but fuck updating now
hush not working?
>>122200841
Edmund "only bigots ask for patch notes" McMillen.
>>122210716
holy shit is it worth taking now?
>>122210716
>by consequence, Dead Sea Scrolls are now viable
>>122210795
No, now it literally never hurts you, even if you're not playing blue bomber.
>>122210856
YES
>>122210716
>>122210856
>>122210925
it's a bug
-ed
At least Azazel isn't shit now, aren't you happy? :^)
>>122210802
no it just crashes like at launch
what's in the new 12.something mb patch?
>>122210992
Was he reverted to Rebirth levels? I'm not updating just yet.
>>122211047
Steak
Make sure you don't chew too fast :^)
W O R K I N G
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>>122211047
steak with bugs
>>122211169
>it only happens in release
How can that be true?
>>122211053
still a longer charge time but the damage seems to be back to normal
>Want angel rooms for mega satan
>they never spawn despite always skipping devil deals
I'm getting really tired of this. Really really tired.
>>122211169
jesus christ this guy is a complete fuckup
he's back bitches
>>122210806
Patch Notes:
- Broke Greed Mode
- Broke Hush encounter
- Broke a few items
- Removed Azazel's flight
- Removed Lost's flight
- Changed Box of Friends from 4 charges to 6
- While using Gnawed Leaf's statue form, you are no longer immune to explosions, stomping damage, or lasers.
- Halved damage for Daddy Long Legs familiar, doubled damage for Daddy Long Legs boss attacks
- Fixed Greed Machine jamming after a few coins, this was a mistake. It now properly jams after one coin, as intended
- Taking Devil Deals as Lost now kills you
- Taking Dead Cat as Lost now kills you
- ARG implimented, first clue is in Somalia
>>122210912
still a shitty item though.
>>122211169
"sadly it only happens in release"
What?
>>122211335
Nicalis develops, not Eggroll McAfee
>>122211529
Chain of command means top of the totem pole gets the blame
Smegma McMuffin is responsible.
>>122211843
It's a game development company, not a military unit you jackoff. Egghead McMilfhunter can be blamed for plenty of things, but being so bafflingly shit at coding that the release version is somehow different from the one they're testing on (What the actual fuck) isn't one of them.
>>122211398
You also forgot these.
- The Game now detects when a player is constantly restarting in an attempt to get good items, will significantly boost chances of finding The Poop, The Bean, D10 and more and make most other items either be extremely rare or have them replaced with Breakfast
- Made sure to add more rooms where you can't avoid damage
- Holy Mantle now only protects the player from damage once per floor
- Made Soy Milk more common when Curse of the Blind is active
- D6 now has a chance to break upon use
- D4 now rerolls itself too
- Gave Spiders even more health and made the Cellar ten times more likely to appear over the Basement and Burning Basement
- Buffed both Haunt and Forsaken since Reddit complained they were too easy
- "Accidentally" made even more rooms, enemies and bosses that are impossible to avoid or damage if you don't have enough speed
- Revival Items now have a 50% Chance to revive into The Lost
- Removed "Something" since people were digging in places they didn't belong in. Guess he wasn't a keeper after all!
- Buffed Mega Satan with the same HP Scaling as Ultra Greed and Hush
- All of the above's Summons now have the same HP Scaling so they aren't so easy to kill in comparison to the boss itself
>>122212253
Isn't Edmund like the art guy? Has nothing to do with coding.
>>122212253
it's a joke, just like everyone blames Sakurai for every Smash thing and Lucas for every Prequel and Indie disaster
>>122212331
>Removed "Something" since people were digging in places they didn't belong in. Guess he wasn't a keeper after all!
Kill yourself
I wanted keeper ;_;
Glad this isn't real.
>>122212331
- People complained the other transformations were not as good as Guppy. In order to fix this, Guppy no longer spawns flies.
>>122212401
He's the art director and the guy who comes up with the design concepts.
Even though he's pretty much an ideas guy, if it was just Nicalis developing this by themselves, the game would be fucking horrible.
holy fuck azazel is playable again
fuck yes finally
but missing hud isn't working :/
>>122200137
>[deleted]
What was this about?
>>122213027
Some bullshit that led people to a place in California.
It wasn't the end, but someone found a poster with a phone number there.
He probably deleted it because of people messaging him saying he didn't actually solve everything like he claimed.
>Isaac is now faster in the SPEED challenge
Fucking finally
SLOW DOWN
STOP BREAKING THE GAME
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
>>122213472
STOP CHEWING THE STEAK
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
>faggots butthurt about the lost having spectral tears and the mantle
I can pretty much guarantee you those people never got RPG or if they did they never touched the lost a single time afterward. Holy mantle actually makes me want to play the lost for fun now.
>>122213535
>stop chewing
>choke
I don't want this
>Blinding Baby is still bugged
>>122213472
>>122213535
NO YOU CHEWED IT TOO MUCH
SPIT IT OUT
I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU ATE IT
PUT IT BACK ON THE PLATE
>>122213637
yOU SHOULD HAD THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE BUYING MY $100 STEAK
>>122213593
Who's butthurt? Pretty much everyone in these threads agree that Lost is No Fun Allowed: The Character without these buffs, and then there are a small handfull of "gitgud" fags who are just shitposting anyway.
>Decide today is the day to get every character through greed mode
>see update
>download it
>greed mode crashes every time
MMMMMM JUICY
>>122213750
people on
>>122213472
How does this happen?
They specifically said they were delaying this patch for DAYS after they promised to release it so that it wouldn't have any bugs.
>>122213757
>tfw I wanted to get all characters through Greed Mode before the patch hit because of that EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE 2 achievement
>tfw couldn't finish in time and still need to do Lazarus and Eden
>>122213897
Ed saw people having fun.
>>122213857
Those people don't even play the fucking game
>>122213248
>edmund is so obsessed with his ARG that he's breaking the fucking game over it
something something steak
>>122213857
pic
>>122213897
Because Nicalis is so incompetent that the version they test on is different than the release version. Sit there and think about that for awhile. I'm still completely dumbstruck by it.
>>122213897
No, it's fine, they did test it, they just didn't test the release version.
Because they're fucking idiots, what kind of insane QA are you doing that you're NOT testing the release version? Like, holy shit, how does this company survive? Is this what Indie Gaming is like?
>>122213962
That's pretty much my assumption. I almost always find that people who bitch about much needed buffs are almost exclusively people who never play the game or that challenge/character/whatever.
Eve buff is fantastic. She's on-par with Cain, Judas, and Samson now. I'd hope for Maggy or Lazarus to get buffed, but seems like those characters are destined to be ignored forever
>yfw Magdalene is the exact same character from launch
>devil/angel rooms still bugged
I just want to wreck mega stan.
>>122213942
>Still need to do Greed Mode with The Lost and Blue Baby
>>122214158
What was the buff? I didn't update and I'm too scared to do so.
>>122214107
>Because Nicalis is so incompetent that the version they test on is different than the release version. Sit there and think about that for awhile. I'm still completely dumbstruck by it.
That's insane. That's actually fucking insane. I'm flabbergasted. How the fuck do you do that. I don't even work for a video game company and I can tell you just how stupid that is. How.
>>122214226
I held off on the last patch and did it for Lost before shop rerolling machines could explode. Fucking glad, too.
>>122214251
I assume she starts with razor blade now, that's been in the pipes. Haven't played her yet to see for myself though.
>>122214107
>Because Nicalis is so incompetent that the version they test on is different than the release version. Sit there and think about that for awhile. I'm still completely dumbstruck by it.
>>122214158
Maggy is fine, she's the character for people who aren't very good at the game and who don't want to play azazel. Plus them red hearts for devil deals.
I also like laz, just kill yourself for a decent damage buff. Although he's basically a shittier judas. He could use something to make him more interesting at least.
>>122214186
>devil/angel rooms still bugged
They are bugged?
>>122214226
>didnt do lost before the restock machine change
>>122214358
There is an achievement for her to start with it
Get ???'s Only Friend
Get Mom's Knife
Get Ludovico
>Knife is far slower moving than ???'s BFF
>??? BFF becomes main source of damage because you can move it faster
What am I supposed to feel?
>>122214158
Eve was always fantastic, mind you.
>>122214509
>What am I supposed to feel?
An aversion to speed
>>122214509
knife ludo is so fucking bad
on par with knife soy milk even
>>122214509
I fucked one of my runs like this too. Ludovicos and mom's knife synergize but it makes the knife so fucking slow it's basically useless. Ruined my mega satan run in I RULE!
why are they trying to buff and nerf every character but leave blue baby as a fucking joke?
>>122214226
Lost can have Holy Mantle somehow after the patch.
You LITERALLY cannot lose with it. Whenever you lose the mantle, just exit/continue.
Of course you want to finish everything before Ebmumds decides to remove that
How the fuck does every single patch manage to break more shit than the one before it...